First off, I would like to apologize for putting this up almost 2 weeks after the MV release. It was such a busy week when it came to Loona with the Line&Up event and unit promotions, I just didn’t have enough time to work on the analysis. I wasn’t really intending to do one for ‘love4eva’ because frankly, there wasn’t much to analyze. But since many have asked for one, here it is! Secondly, thank for your continued interest with my videos. I know many of you have been waiting for an analysis of love4eva from me. Thank you for your patience! Please note there are others who also make other theory videos and I suggest you also check them out for a different perspective! Lastly, THE DEBUT MONTH HAS BEEN SET! Mark your calendars for the month of August! For those who have been here from the start, our 2 years of waiting is almost over! Never have I dedicated so much time to anything than I have with this group. To finally see them as 1 will be a momentous occasion! P.S. Thank you to everyone here for supporting Loona! The reason I make these videos is to show how truly amazing Loona’s concepts are. Nothing makes me happier than when someone says they started following Loona because of my videos. So again THANK YOU SO MUCH for supporting my favourite girl group!
Daebak Jjang Thanks, I really love your theory videos but I am always too lazy to look at other peoples videos xD We are all waiting for the LOONA concert, I hope there is a livestream or something. ^^
Something I haven't seen anyone mention is how in the lyrics there's "You know I'm egoistic" - but it's Yves that sings it? So that got me thinking, what if the title of Olivia's solo doesn't allude to her being an egoist for loving herself, but rather Yves being an egoist for dropping her, letting go of her hand for selfish reasons which made Olivia hate her and want revenge
If that's true then maybe Olivia is actually the "good" person all along and Yves is the "bad" one, maybe that's why Gowon was reluctant to join her and Chuu - who has a crush on Yves - in the beginning. That would also add another theory as to why Chuu and Gowon have Yves' fruit the apple.
I'm like 3 months late, but this is makes sense if you apply the mobius theory that yves is actually the last member instead of olivia and such BUT I D K IT'S 12 A M AND I'M BINGE WATCHING DAEBAK JJANG'S MV ANALYSIS SERIES HAHAHAHAHA
After seeing this video i have come up with another theory. Remember Gowon's first teaser quote: 'Your God person puts an apple tree in the middle of a garden and says, do what you like, guys, oh, but don't eat the apple. Surprise surprise'. That was part of a quote from the book The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. In it is another quote i find interesting: 'There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable'. What if, the whole Eden was just a test for the girls on whether they would eat the forbidden fruit(rose), despite being told not to. Ultimately only Yves, Chuu and Gowon passed the test and that was actually what the headmistress was clapping for, not for Olivia as she had failed the test. With the 3 of them passing the test, the original Eden was destroyed and replaced with the new Eden, which is essentially the main loonaverse, 1/3's world. Along which Olivia was forcefully pushed out of the old Eden, which she was contented with. That's why Olivia was not seen eating the rose and she had lost everything: her home, her friends. This started her hate for Yves which is referenced in her teaser quote as well: 'You, who was sent by God Destroy all the things without hesitation'. She was talking about how Yves destroyed her everything, turning her into an egoist. She had to find her own place in the new Eden and that's where she met Heejin. What happens next we have to wait for the next MV.
Hyunjin doesn't apear in Gowon's MV because Hyunjin and Choerry have opposite colors so Hyunjin can't be reflected through Choerry's mirror! *MIND BLOWN*
There was a color theory posted stating that Hyun Jin was a member of odd eye circle, because red yellow and blue are primary colors, and somehow she left odd eye circle world and Kim lip and jinsoul combined their colors to make choerry
I'm practically a new orbit and I'm just wrapping my head around this entire loonaverse and it's very very interesting. I don't know if anyone has talked about this yet but was there ever a theory before that talks about the connection between Choerry and Hyunjin? First of all, I think both of them look kind of similar. But other than that, I think there's more to Hyunjin's role. Like you said, if we base on her color, she should be a part of OEC as it is a primary color like Kim Lip's Red and Jinsoul's Blue. OEC's world is the part of the Mobius strip where the "flip" happens, which explains why they seem to have powers. What I'm saying is that Hyunjin may be an original OEC member, even before Kim Lip and Jinsoul, and has her own powers as well. Many are saying Kim Lip can travel through time, jinsoul can teleport, but bear with me when I think Hyunjin possesses the ability to transform. But she is a part of 1/3, why could that be? I think she preffered to live in the mundane world, especially having found friends. Remember in her introductory mv, she was seen wearing a cat head mascot, a representation of her cat symbol, might be, but what if it also meant adjusting to the normal world, which explains why she is not fully human yet (cat head, human body as she can transform). But then at the end she found Heejin while still being in her unusual form, but Heejin wasn't surprised. Eventually they became friends and she became more adjusted to the life of a human in the world of 1/3. And then we get introduced to OEC members, but Hyunjin is gone. The unit cannot become a complete circle with a member missing, and so they needed a new one. Kim Lip and Jinsoul's combined powers makes Choerry's color, purple, but also makes the most powerful member in the unit, as Choerry seems to be the only one who can travel through dimensions (in other words she can transcend time and space, which if you think about it is actually Kim Lip and Jinsoul's individual powers) Choerry was invited to the OEC when Jinsoul gave her the Cherry. Hyunjin knows about this (because of her previous connection to OEC), and sees that Choerry still seems a little lost, considering the amount of power given to her. And what happens is that another version of Choerry is seen "blinding" her with mirror reflections and guiding her to places. Mirrors, reflection, herself, mirrors, doors to another dimension, know where I'm getting at? What I'm saying is that Hyunjin probably transformed herself into a mirrored version of Choerry to explain to her about the presence of another dimension and supernatural powers (and OEC itself). This connection between Hyunjin and Choerry or OEC in general could explain the random Hyunjin appearance in Girl Front. She might be the mysterious girl seen running around the OEC members, which could further explain that she knows about OEC before it was fully formed, but the other members are not fully aware of her. Hyunjin's power could also explain why she was the only one who didn't have a face to face interaction with Go Won as her counterpart in Go Won's video. In Yves' case, ViVi appeared to Yve's AFTER she ate her apple. Haseul also appeared to Chuu AFTER she rejected Eden, same goes to Olivia Hye meeting Heejin. In all cases, they have ALREADY fallen out of Eden when they met their 1/3 counterparts, which means they are already on 1/3's universe. But when the cat appeared in Go Won's MV, it was before she ate the pineapple, which means that Go Won was STILL in Eden at that time, and in the world of Eden, Hyunjin's reflection (since Eden is a reversed or mirrored version of 1/3) is A CAT, as she is not originally human. Hyunjin may be able to transform into anything but her original form, I think, is a cat, which explains why she found it hard to transition into a normal human and often ended up having a part of her still a cat (her head) before meeting the 1/3 members. In the flipside, Hyunjin is a cat, in the OEC world, she's in total control of her powers, in the 1/3 world, she seldomly uses her powers (eg. assisting Choerry) and learns to fully become human. That said, as Go Won is still in Eden when the cat appeared, I think it's safe to say that that cat is Hyunjin rather than just a representation. That's just my wild guess though.
Satoshi Sasayan oh my god that’s amazing! Thanks for explaining!! In LOONAVERSE and all LOONA’s mv’s ( also their solos ) it’s all so crazy and you want to know more about the story !
María Velásquez Thank you very much i slept in the morning just coming up with a theory I was literally so invested in it. If you don’t mind reading a very long comment, I actually modified this theory quite a bit and expanded it for the creation of other girls. Personally I believe using color theory as a base theory gives us how the individual members of loona are realized. I originally commented this theory on Croissant de LOONA’s intro analysis theory but i’ll post it here in case you or others would want to read it. It’s very long so you can skip it if you like. But here it goes. This theory started with a question that what if we all have just been fooled all along? That what if Olivie Hye was actually the first? Since we're focusing on colors anyway, let's get some help from the color wheel. And also, of course, this theory wouldn’t be complete without borrowing Croissant de LOONA’s thoughts, which was the powerhouse of all this color theory (I just modified some). Now, at first, there was no color, only black and white, which tells us that Olivia, being able to represent all shades between black and white, is the first to ever exist, and she's not quite human and she lives in a place called Eden. Three girls, however, are quite special. This makes it so that Sweet, Crazy Love begins our timeline. In the MV, Kim Lip and Jinsoul are starting to awaken their inner colors, thinking there might be more to the world than just black and white. Notice that here, we don't see Choerry activate her odd eye, and that's for a particular reason to be explained later. The power itches inside Kim Lip, so she activates it fully through Eclipse, awekening her superpowers and allowing her to move into the mirror dimension (the flip side of the Mobius strip). The eclipse is actually a very important event in the Loonaverse. Notice how Kim Lip is the only individual girl to have an eclipsing moon in the intro. Her introduction, primarily, shook the Loonaverse and paved way to the other side. Originally, their intros wax to one side and fade in a crescent, but her eclipse showed that waxing from the opposite side is actually possible to make a circle, which is why there is now a waxing to the right or to the left. Additionally, her eclipse changed the background from black to white, because naturally, it gets dark during an eclipse. Looking at it this way, the eclipse created a bridge between the two, mirroring worlds, one of which is Eden. Now, Olivia doesn't want this. She tries to stop Kim Lip but fails to do so mistakingly adding a shade of white to her (when she should have added black), accidentally creating Heejin and her pink, which, with the eclipse, is the mirror equivalent of Olivia. At the same time as the eclipse, Jinsoul is already Singing in the Rain, trying to awaken her own powers. Olivia, with her failed attempt, proceeded to go to her and throws a shade of black, but by then Jinsoul has fully awakened so she is not severely affected and her blue does not change. Olivia does, however, manage to get some black into Jinsoul as even before awakening, she has already made moves to catch Jinsoul's attention eg. pulling down Jinsoul's headphones in the train (yes I believe that was Olivia as she is the only member who can move through black and white shades). The third girl is actually Hyunjin, who has trouble realizing her powers and has taken quite the repercussions because of it, which I will expound later. These three girls are the primary elements that could destroy Olivia's black and white world, but where is Hyunjin? Heejin awakens from a black and white world into one that is full of color. This is not what is actually happening, but rather a vision of what Heejin wants, as is seen through her "pink" or positive and rose-colored viewpoint. But to do that she needs to have the primary colors, and there are some colors she particularly want: yellow, orange, and green. Now as Hyunjin is supposed to be a primary color, it makes sense that she also need to activate her powers, which I believe is the power to transform into anything, a shape shifter, if you might (I actually believe Kim Lip's power is time travel and Jinsoul's is teleportation). She fails to fully activate her powers and is sent to a different world. Hyunjin, being lonely, seeks to find friendship. She lives alone and is very fond of cats, as is seen in Around You. With her powers, she occasionally practices to transform into a cat, but as her powers haven't fully awakened, she cannot fully become a cat. She meets Heejin at the end of Around You, and, surprised that Heejin wasn't afraid of her half-cat half-human appearance, forms a friendship between her. Conveniently, Hyunjin is one of the colors Heejin wants for her vivid world. And with their friendship, building confidence inside Hyunjin, she eventually gains control of her power, but she can no longer activate her odd eye because someone else has already taken her place. While Hyunjin and Heejin form a bond, Kim Lip and Jinsoul become desperate because they couldn't complete their circle without the third primary color. So instead they mixed their colors and powers together to awaken Choerry, who obtains the ability to travel between dimensions. By the time Hyunjin is ready to awaken, Choerry has already appeared. However, since Choerry isn't an original, she is only a mirrored version of Hyunjin. If we look at the color wheel, purple is directly opposite of yellow, in a way mirroring it. This makes it so that what Kim Lip and Jinsoul created is only a mirrored version of the original Hyunjin, which explains why her right eye is the odd eye, as opposed to Kim Lip and Jinsoul having theirs on the left. Following this, if Hyunjin has awakened her powers on time, she might have had her odd eye on the left. (It is important to note that whenever Choerry is around, there's bound to be some mirror-like effects to her surroundings). What happened instead is that Hyunjin secretly helped Choerry in her task as someone who gained an Odd eye (which is originally supposed to be Hyunjin's responsibility). With her ability, she transformed herself literally into a mirrored version of Choerry, which is the other Choerry we see in Girl Front, explaining her very random appearance in the video. I also firmly believe it is Hyunjin circling the three girls, symbolizing their frustration in finding the third primary color. She circles them while the three girls gather with a map in the center. The reason why they couldn't find Hyunjin at all is because she transformed into Choerry. (I'll continue the rest in another comment)
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yess, thank you!! also i think that GoWon and Olivia have some sort of connection, because she's the only one who turns to look at Olivia when her, Yves and Chuu are running away from the school. Also in the 'yyxy' logo, we can see that two y's (Chuu and Yves) and the x (GoWon) are connected, but the 'x' is also connected to another 'y' which should be Olivia. and as for the title of the song, 'love4eva'... Yves is pronunced as 'Eve' (like Adam and Eve) and Eve's name in my language (italian) is 'Eva', so the title could mean 'Love for Yves'? idk if it made sense lmao
We know, even something like looking back to someone has a deep meaning in LOONA. Eva is also German. I knew it, the story is about Yves, building her harem.
I think it should also be pointed out that when Olivia was lost in the forest the pane turned to red and its the same in her solo when the pane turned to red and we saw the eye of the wolf opening up. This is where she got decided to get her revenge and eat her fruit to escape (I think the falle angel and feathers was because the obedient goody too shoes, an angel, and she finally rejected eden, causing her to be a fallen angel).I was thinking that maybe wondering through the forest Olivia stumbled upon the dear. I also think Go won and her had a connection as when they were eating at the table I thought Olivia was eating a pineapple and did she also appear in Go won mv as a shadow. She was also the only one to turn back to Olivia. I think Go won wanted to escape and fit in with the other girls. I find it really interesting as well that love4eva gives me the indication that the solos did not directly happen as they looked (because they were in Eden in that mansion. It was just from the perspective of each member and the solos were even more of a metaphor than we thought.
Yeah, I was wondering about the connection between Go Won and Olivia as well. If Olivia is the late shadow in the end of One and Only, is she also the shadow mentioned in the lyrics? There's an interesting correlation between Go Won's "In this universe, it isn't a coincidence that I met myself" and Olivia's "It isn't a coincidence that you met me, it was fate, a blessing for me". It could be that Go Won rejected Olivia in order to love herself/leave Eden.
Possibly and for Olivia to leave eden, she also had to learn to love herself and stop depending on others for love and such what not. You can only depend on yourself. I mean Olivia was afraid to leave eden because of the consequences and so because of that Go won left her behind. They would probably be the yves and chuu of eden, minus the over admiration of chuu.
Seunghee Tae I specifically pointed her out as a fallen angel because of her nature in the love4eva mv. I think they specifically put the fallen angel and feathers in her solo, as she didnt want to disobey eden and was probably regarded as the most "pure". So its kind of a big deal that she actually disobeyed. Thats what Im thinking😅
Interestingly, the theory that has been circling twitter about Olivia killing Vivi as revenge on Yves is one to point out. Olivia is mad at Yves for leaving her behind (dropping her metaphorically as we see in the egoist MV), and we know Vivi was special to Yves as they made a connection in Yves 'new' MV. (and that vivi was still human.) However, I don't believe Olivia killed her, instead I think maybe she either tore out her eye or she hurt her badly enough to were someone from OEC (Jinsoul?) or one of the other girls had to step in and change her to an android in order to live. If the eye theory is right, maybe Jinsoul gives Vivi her blue eye? We know Jinsoul also has a connection to Vivi since their initial meeting in everyday i need you MV, and we also know Jinsoul's power could be teleporting which she wasn't doing in her MV singing in the rain. Instead she was running. (lost her eye and her eye and her power?) This leads me to my final point, I think Jinsoul was trying to warn Vivi about Olivia. In the egoist MV the words' fallen angel' behind Jinsoul is written in hanzi and who do we know to be the only Chinese member? Vivi. So if Vivi is the only member who can understand Chinese, why would Jinsoul be trying to communicate to any of the other members in a language they can't understand? It's to my belief that Jinsoul was trying to warn Vivi of the destruction Olivia is capable of in this state of mind, and is referring to Olivia as the 'fallen angel' from Eden.
I think that instead of the three MVs being before love4eva, they went through only in the girls' heads. In new, Yves questions and disobeys God, and she left the "school" and got punished for it. Chuu saw all of that a mile away, and when Yves invites her, she just follows along. With One&Only, I think Go Won was persuaded a lot, feeling a bit stalked and with Yves trying to convince her, and in the end, she decides to go along with them. But your points about Choerry are very very interesting, I like them very much. And there's a theory that says that Yves left Eden, enjoyed and came back to get the girls. She met Vivi and was interested in her, because of course, Vivi is technically not an angel and Yves' counterpart. But honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore and I think I'll wait for the repackage for more answers.
Kim Lip is the headmaster in Love4eva in my opinion, hence her red clipboard. Girl Front and Sweet Crazy Love is the story of Kim Lip looking for her students to return them to Eden. In Kim Lip’s eclipse she sings about wanting all the colors so maybe she’s collecting them for herself and puts together a team (Odd Eye Circle) to search for them. If you go back to Eclipse, Girl Front, and Sweet Crazy Love and pay attention to Kim Lip’s lines as well as her demeanor it makes sense, to me at least. So the timeline goes YYXY then OEC but I’m still not sure how Loona 1/3 fits yet.
if you take into account the loonatic mv and the mystery girl ( a member of yyxy), this makes since because the look of disgust oec had looking at her. she was taunting them bc they couldn’t make her go back.
@*insert clever username* well... I heard a theory that Jinsoul was sent by Olivia to kill Vivi (because Yves fell in love with her, this was before Yves rejected her), but since Jinsoul and Vivi have a connection, Jinsoul turned Vivi into an android instead since she felt bad for Vivi.
Touching on the reverse order theory, Yeojin is possibly outside of the Loonaverse or in the forest that Olivia was alone in. Vivi is probably in the forest that Olivia is in too, bc Olivia probably turns her into an android. Frogs, wolves, and deer all live in the forest, with deer being a main prey of wolves. Yeojin could also be some sort of ruler in the loonaverse. Also, Hyunjin and Gowon are probably unit variables, which probably has to do with them not meeting. Choerry replaces Hyunjin in 1/3 for the Love & Live remix ver. I see Gowon as a variable in a more mathematical way. In algebra, X is a very common variable. Ys, maybe it's not a coincidence that the 3rd unit is YYXY, tend to be dependent on the X value. Seeing that Gowon had a crown on in One and Only, the word "dependent" seems like it could come in handy. In a monarchy, the lives of citizens are dependent on royalty. You could turn yyxy into a typical algebraic equation of 3y=x. 1/3x is equal to y then. 1/3 IS THERE. Is this saying that Gowon has the most power, with each member of yyxy only being a third of that? Hyunjin probably replaces Choerry in OEC when she goes to 1/3 as seen from the Girl Front cameo. Gowon probably replaces Choerry in OEC when she goes to yyxy; I guess that'll be at the next study group.
xDfairytailfangirl I will support your last idea. I have a theory that Choerry was supposed to be in loona 1/3 and hyunjin in OEC. she’s yellow and with kimlip and jinsoul gave all the other colors to the girls, but because they were so different, Choerry came to bring balance between our 2 goddesses(???) also that other version of loona 1/3 has another concept and dance and Vivi has a soul there (dark hair) so maybe what happened to her changed everything...
Sacredproz wasnt mixnine finals being made at that time? maybe hyunjin just couldn't appear on the filming and maybe mixnine is actually the reason for the february delay of olivia hye's reveal and egoist, because there had a possibility of the girls debuting, also because bbc probably wanted heejin to appear on the end of egoist mvskejeisjwnri idk
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i've seen another interesting theory that suggests that Go won is actually linked to Haseul. Go won is the x in yyxy, while Haseul has a "boy" version of herself. even her song title in Korean is "boy, girl". this theory gets even deeper, when you see yyxy individual teasers, with Go won being the only one with a dress, while the other 3 are wearing suits. to me it makes more sense Haseul and Go won being connected, instead of Haseul and Chuu. aside from the fact that they're both the December girls, there's nothing else that explains their interaction in Heart attack
soha that was just a joke though. They tried scaring her by saying she's gonna be adam, but the staff were just trolling. But who knows? It is BBC after all
the gowon being a boy part was a joke. Don't forget the whole mobius theory and 1/3 mirroring yyxy, thus the whole Yves/Vivi, Chuu/Haseul, Gowon/Hyunjin, Olivia/Heejin thing. Their MVs pretty much confirmed that theory
I’m 3:43 into the video so this may be said in the next second but I just realized that go won, yves, and chuu’s skirts are all primary colors, while olivia’s is a secondary color
I like the theory that vivi was normal but then Yves (before getting out of Eden with all the girls) decided to met her and when Olivia hye almost kills vivi, jinsoul was the one who helped her, making her a robot so that's why she has the odd eye, because she has already seen yyxy dimension and the twist where oec lives. Thanks for your videos!
I heard another theory that olivia hye killed ViVi (or at least TRIED to kill her) then Heejin came and saved her but now she's just a droid with limited functions
And the reason for Olivia targeting Vivi is because Vivi is/was close to Yves, right? And from this analysis video, Olivia wants to take revenge on Yves?
woojin's snaggletooth yes and yes, she definetly hates Yves. Also some People said that god (that woman) Sent her to destroy and ruin the girsl that left but I don't think so.
I thought that maybe Olivia was the only real girl. Like she was trapped in the house and the other three are figments of her imagination. Eventually, however she decides to let them go and be free rather than stay there and comfort her anymore.
20:19 ,Hyunjin and Gowon actually interacted with eachother in SeeSaw Unreleased MV That was shown in the cinema event, Gowon makes a bracelet while Chuu fell asleep infront of her, and when she finished, she put the bracelet to a *cat*. Hyunjin's representative animal, not my theory but someone said that the cat arrived at Hyunjin's house with the bracelet and tried getting it off but accidentally broke Hyunjin's plant pot that is growing strawberries, but sucsessfully got the bracelet off. Earlier Hyunjin also noticed the plant pot with strawberries broke, and checked nearby rooms to find a bracelet (the same bracelet Gowon made), thinking it was a gift from a friend.
21:10 , and the reason why Hyunjin appeared in Girl Front MV Was because she was a former OEC member, yet again its not my theory and don't insult me for it but OEC was supposed to be a group with primary colors as their representative colors, early on OEC's creation, Hyunjin starts to miss Heejin and sends letters to her, she left OEC because she really missed Heejin so much that she even got to Earth (aka the dimension 1/3 lives in), which is why we see her writing letters in Around You MV.
Btw, to the connection between Yves, ViVi, JinSoul and Olivia Hye: In “new“ we see the moment where Yves denied Eden and ate an apple. Like you said “love4eva“ plays after “new“. And in our favorite moment, where Yves was rollerskating with ViVi (better watch out, Chuu!) she was wearing her Eden-uniform. So maybe it was during the time where Yves was always sneaking out from Eden and secretly meeting ViVi. And well, Olivia Hye was kinda PISSED that the girls left her in Eden (Poor baby wolf, kill 'em all!) and out of revenge she -(almost?)- killed our beloved ViVi out of hate for Yves, since she started with everything and Olivia found out that Yves had a crush on her (Have you seen how she smiled at ViVi?! Bitch please, she falls for ViVi like Chuu falls for her!). Wolves like to eat deers. Or maybe she send JinSoul to assasinate ViVi. Here, I have something from TvTropes: *Foreboding and dark, and the lyrics give it a new dimension of scary; she's talking about fusing with Olivia Hye and becoming the same person as her, the results from which neither girl will escape. The "for the sin" line also ties the song together with Singing in the Rain and alerts us to the fact that something dark was going on under our noses... for ten months.* Singing In The Rain: *For the sin of swallowing up all the stars in the sky/You have spread blue/We’re standing on top of this night/And this song is falling right now [...] For the sin of swallowing up the afternoon sun/I’m right here, so hot/Alone with you tonight (it rings out)* Egoist: *Hey, for the sin of swallowing you/You get bigger and bigger, beautiful you/You are me, now I’m you* Who doesn't want a JinSoul x Olivia Hye fusion? But not in the nice way...maybe Olivia let JinSoul doing this kind of sin like killing an innocent person and JinSoul wants to fuse with her, as her reward? Oh, and Yves was the dude in disguise from ViVi's MV, just saying ;D Really, you cannot keep this woman straight ;) Is someone even reading this? Whatever...
I was kind of thinking Jinsoul might have merged with Choerry, hence her ability to appear in Olivia's MV. Considering the lyrics about the afternoon sun and then in Olivia's MV she's shown eating cherries out of a tin labelled " the sun (in) the afterno(on)".
This may sound no sense but from the comments i've been reading in this video, there was one comment that deers and wolves reside in the forest. Hence probably why Yves sneaked out to the woods at the start of the love4eva mv (due to dirty sock) to find Vivi/deer?
Oh yeah, since it was JinSoul who placed the cherry on the cake, which was eaten by Choerry. But yeah, there is a possibility that JinSoul and Choerry merged. But it could be, that she wants to fuse with Olivia, since she's talking about their sins.
That could also be! It's clear that Yves wants to escape Eden, that's why she ate an apple. This supports my theory, that Yves was sneaking out to see ViVi. But it could also be that she was sneaking out of Eden, because she didn't want to be there and just happens to meet ViVi. But hmm, there is not still enough proof, that she wanted to find ViVi, but why?
1) in the girl front video from line&up, it's revealed that Yves was running around the girls in Loonatic, and it is also seen that Yves gives Choerry a compact mirror. That's how choerry connects to yyxy 2) the end of love4eva definitely leads to Egotist, Olivia hye is drooping her head. My take on the storyline of Olivia Hye, is that since she was left out of leaving Eden with the rest of yyxy, she's angry. She's kinda a teachers pet, but thinks the teacher is unfair. Then she realizes how to love herself "from now on, I'll myself instead of you, I'll live on". Unlike the rest of yyxy, *she doesn't need Yves to love herself*. All of that combined is now turned into the egoist mv. Olivia Hye is still in yyxy because she rejected Eden, just not with Yves. But unlike gowon, in some way that is unknown. If the girls are "angels" because they're aren't in Eden anymore , and Olivia Hye is a fallen angel, it's because she left out of revenge. So far, the storyline doesn't go PAST egoist, just explanations and what happened before. So we don't really know if Olivia Hye actually killed Vivi or what she does once she leaves Eden. Egoist Mv explains her actual falling from Eden. Then meeting heejin and thats it. Tbh, idk if the scene with Heejin is just first member meeting last, or Olivia Hye looking to Heejin for guidence. Also interesting, Vivi and Olivia Hye both weren't included in their subunits, but apparently Olivia Hye killed (you who was sent by God, kill everything without hesitation or something) Vivi(also interesting Vivi is represented by a deer, a human, and an Android). Vivi meets Jinsoul, Vivi is in new as a human, Jinsoul is in egoist, olivia Hye resents Yves. Idk, this connection barely has any information to make theories off of.
Rcj. Queenie the first one. Yes I think this was that video I was referring to in my comments along with SeeSaw short hidden clip. second. there was this wordplay theory since Yves in korean is pronounce like Eve hence “love4eva” it’s like the title itself is giving us the main concept of yyxy story. it’s kinda like as if the 2 girls (Chuu and Gowon) followed the “new” Eden. or their own Eden. Which is Yves. “love4eva” and Olivia Hye in Egoist goes. “love myself today” “let you go today” it kinda actually makes sense.
Hi daebak jjang, i have a theory about vivi (unrelated to this video, sorry) . You know in egoist, olivia hye burnt the cassete tape that was in eily, so i believe that the cassete tape represents vivi memories of loona(since cds of loona were played in the tape) , so its like burning vivi memories loona, causing her to have no feelings about loona. When burning vivi cassete tape, u see red and blue, which combined=purple, red,blue,purple=oec, therefore vivi had an odd eye=oec, why not like oec's odd eye?(i dont know), but if u look closely, vivi odd eye in love and live is purple
Just remember that Olivia was the girls that ‘You, who was sent by god destroy all the things without hesitation’, so maybe she’s not lost, but just was sent to find the other girls... and maybe get lost, who knows?
The fact that this is the second to the last predebut/unit MV theory before the complete LOONA is making me all nervous and hyped up. And additional fact that the scene in Egoist where yyxy members are seen in parking lot wasn’t shown in love4eva. It seems like there will be really some high possibilities that the repackaged will be different. and them dropping hints or teasing it by the break dances (yes the original and the other 3) it could really happen. And another another fact is when LOONA said that their debut concept will be the “darkest” so these unsolved mysteries and unanswered questions seems to have a very very “dark” answers. which is giving me chills tbh. We are almost there. Holy sh-
One thing that I am most curious about is Kim Lip's existence in the loonaverse, she's the only one that doesn't have any connection to the other units, she only appeared in her own mv, her unit and the ot12. I want to know more about her place in the loonaverse. She is also not included in most of the member's/unit's story, unlike the other oec members that is in both 1/3 and yyxy. Just, who is Kim Lip? Oh, wait. She is slightly connected to Gowon and Chuu because of See Saw, but that's just one line... and I can't think of anything that would involve her to them. I hope that we get more of Kim Lip's part in the loonaverse soon.
No, (i think) in egoist, she joins yyxy, but through hatred. She's not lost like yeojin, and BBC definitely didnt hint towards Olivia being lost either.
Isaac Steltzer but the timeline is yves/new, chuu/heart attack, go won/one and only, yyxy/love 4 eva, Olivia hye/egoist... But you could be right though what if Olivia did join yyxy but through hatred since she burned yves' animal, but on the other hand the rest of the girls wanted her to join but not just now since they will be easily caught by the headmistress/God Edit: but it wouldn't also make sense because in the end Olivia was found by heejin, what if, Olivia wasn't supposed to be in yyxy what if she was supposed to be in 1/3 and yeojin was supposed to be in yyxy, it makes sense though since BBC said that yeojin was lost in the woods, maybe she was lost in the woods outside of eden and the yyxy girls found her, while when Olivia escapes eden(when in reality eden wasn't beautiful but dark and dirty like that warehouse) she was found by heejin and welcomed to 1/3
thanks for taking the time to make these videos!! i love watching them and they help me understand loona soooo much better!! also 18:20 rocked my world i didn’t know about that theory omg i literally got chills
My mind is about to explode, i've been bingewatching a lot of theories and reading a lot of comments (super interesting theories) and every theory makes sense and now I don't know what to think :)
Wow, just wow, I always love your theories you put so much hard work and effort into them and they also fit so well they make me rethink everything I already thought. So keep up the great work I love them!
I was waiting for your analysis since the MV came out!!!! I’m so happy! Thank you Daebak for putting the effort to explain with so much detail this MV and how it connects to the others! P.S.: The Choerry thing BLEW MY MIND
I am new to this fandom and I personally think that this fandom is for intellectuals only. Oh God y'all so great I honestly feel that I'm intelligent but after seeing you all creatively analyze everything in each of the MV, wow, I feel dumb rn. can u accept a dumb stan like me?
16:05 its from the girl front, also there is blue and red as the shadow from the thing (which is kimlip and jinsoul) and also the floor which is color purple (choerry)
i want point out that yyxy album beauty and beat which might be reference to beauty and the beast, where plot involves around rose as well + yyxy logo has 2 empty lines at the end which is going from yy, and in the room where girls studying 2 empty chairs, which represent choerry and vivi. i think my theory why yves rejected olivia, because olivia may smt did to vivi, dont forget olivia is wolf and vivi is deer.
but Olivia is seemingly the good girl and hasnt even stepped out of the school, how would she kill vivi? I think Yves' rejection of Olivia making her become 'evil' makes more sense
Like daebak has mentioned in the video, in new and egoist we saw that Yves at least tried to get Olivia along too, but Olivia was probably too good of a girl and didnt want to leave or do anything bad, so she left her out of the plan in the end
you're amazing!!! i've been watching your vids and sharing them with my friends for a looooong time. hopefully you'll keep at loona stans side forever.
A detail that could be used as a piece of evidence that egoist hasn't happened yet could be the fact that all the girls except Olivia were wareing there colors while Olivia wore green not black, meaning that she still didn't expect her self at that point
In Girl Front Choerry was searching for the other members, BUT perhaps she was focused or at least prioritizing a certain one, in this case Hyunjin who she found. Now the reason she was looking for Hyunjin might be because Yves entrusted her with Go Won's apple and hyunjin is the "upside down" image of Go Won, making Go Won the "upside down" image of Hyunjin. So by finding Hyunjin she also found Go Won, since as a bat she can, in this case, "walk" upside down. If this is true we can also pinpoint ourselves in the story timeline from both views. {Edit: the *highlighted* part was somewhat shown in the video, I just wrote this before finishing so as to not forget} *It should also be mentioned that from the reverse theory, Vivi the "upside-down" of Yves is the one left alone while Heejin is somewhat let's say the "popular?" one in 1/3, whereas Olivia is left alone in yyxy with Yves being the "popular"( xD ) one. The MVs are also similar, especially at the end where Olivia is trying to do what the others are doing and ends up lost while Vivi tries to run and get tired like the other girls until her battery runs out(?) ( I don't remember clearly).* So based on the members debut the reverse is: Heejin-Olivia Yves-Vivi while based on the event it is:Heejin-Yves Olivia-Vivi This also solves why we see Jinsoul in both Vivi's and Olivia's MVs on a side note: In "Everyday I love you" Vivi is seen liking the male character, which turns out to be Yves since her memories were distorted and all, but Yves is Vivi (in reverse), so EILY was actually a song about self-love, just like new and they most likely took part at the same time( + since Olivia is angry with Yves it is also another reverse). I just can't wait for their 2nd MV and maybe the full group debut (in case the 2nd one doesn't solve the mysteries, and let's be honest it most probably won't xD )
another little bit to add to the theory of the connection of the units: in her mv Hyunjin goes to a hairdresser. I can't tell if she gets much change in her hair, but her complementary part GoWon definitely does in her mv! also, I was waiting for this video! thank you so much for your work, it's amazing ^^
In addition, the pineapple leaves are like a crown, just like the plot of her coronation in the mv, which also confirms her stage name go won, maybe she is the winner of the new world
After hearing about the rose family , i realize that Olivia sub-track actually named Rosy and it futuring Go Won whose fruit is a pineapple which is not belong to a rose family and Heejin who you said in the Egoist theory video that suppose to help turning Olivia into yyxy unit member
i also always thought chuu was the x bc of how they line up at the end of the choreo, but also in that scene when the headmistress is looking for them and they sneak out behind them (yves appears first on the left, crouching, then go won from the left, crouching. however chuu comes out from behind a curtain on the right). but you’re right, the evidence that go won is the x is so overwhelming
My theory about the weirdness surrounding Vivi is that she was originally in Eden with YvesxChuuxGowon but was kicked out by the headmistress? and not allowed back in. Olivia is a replacement and therefore not trusted by the others. Because she didn't know Vivi she doesn't have the desire to escape that YvesxChuuxGowon do
It also seems that Olivia Hye and Yves switched titles because Yves shows a lot of her 'egoistic' side than Olivia and Olivia shows that she is trying to change, trying to become 'new' for her to be accepted.
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First off, I would like to apologize for putting this up almost 2 weeks after the MV release. It was such a busy week when it came to Loona with the Line&Up event and unit promotions, I just didn’t have enough time to work on the analysis. I wasn’t really intending to do one for ‘love4eva’ because frankly, there wasn’t much to analyze. But since many have asked for one, here it is!
Secondly, thank for your continued interest with my videos. I know many of you have been waiting for an analysis of love4eva from me. Thank you for your patience! Please note there are others who also make other theory videos and I suggest you also check them out for a different perspective!
Lastly, THE DEBUT MONTH HAS BEEN SET! Mark your calendars for the month of August! For those who have been here from the start, our 2 years of waiting is almost over! Never have I dedicated so much time to anything than I have with this group. To finally see them as 1 will be a momentous occasion!
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Daebak Jjang Thanks, I really love your theory videos but I am always too lazy to look at other peoples videos xD
We are all waiting for the LOONA concert, I hope there is a livestream or something. ^^
Dont worry dude, the wait was worth it
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Don't put yourself in stress. If it's something important it comes first. We appreciate your work! Big Fan of yours.
Dont stress yourself, your presentation and theory alone makes it all worth it.
Screw your business, don't you dare not making one video for every Loona content from now on, late or not.
Seriously, good job.
Something I haven't seen anyone mention is how in the lyrics there's "You know I'm egoistic" - but it's Yves that sings it? So that got me thinking, what if the title of Olivia's solo doesn't allude to her being an egoist for loving herself, but rather Yves being an egoist for dropping her, letting go of her hand for selfish reasons which made Olivia hate her and want revenge
This makes sense thoo
i loveth, i loveth, i loveth myself *mind blown*
If that's true then maybe Olivia is actually the "good" person all along and Yves is the "bad" one, maybe that's why Gowon was reluctant to join her and Chuu - who has a crush on Yves - in the beginning. That would also add another theory as to why Chuu and Gowon have Yves' fruit the apple.
Yesss, you're so right!
I'm like 3 months late, but this is makes sense if you apply the mobius theory that yves is actually the last member instead of olivia and such BUT I D K IT'S 12 A M AND I'M BINGE WATCHING DAEBAK JJANG'S MV ANALYSIS SERIES HAHAHAHAHA
You did not get enough recognition for the yvesdropping pun..
Eve Bayliss I just saw that 😂
why does it feel like i'm not only studying for my final english literature exam but also this
a literal joint media+english revision video about yyxy
lmfao, if only we learnt about that LOL
im studying for my bio exam and doing the same thing !!
After seeing this video i have come up with another theory. Remember Gowon's first teaser quote: 'Your God person puts an apple tree
in the middle of a garden and says,
do what you like, guys,
oh, but don't eat the apple.
Surprise surprise'. That was part of a quote from the book The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. In it is another quote i find interesting: 'There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable'. What if, the whole Eden was just a test for the girls on whether they would eat the forbidden fruit(rose), despite being told not to. Ultimately only Yves, Chuu and Gowon passed the test and that was actually what the headmistress was clapping for, not for Olivia as she had failed the test. With the 3 of them passing the test, the original Eden was destroyed and replaced with the new Eden, which is essentially the main loonaverse, 1/3's world. Along which Olivia was forcefully pushed out of the old Eden, which she was contented with. That's why Olivia was not seen eating the rose and she had lost everything: her home, her friends. This started her hate for Yves which is referenced in her teaser quote as well: 'You, who was sent by God
Destroy all the things without hesitation'. She was talking about how Yves destroyed her everything, turning her into an egoist. She had to find her own place in the new Eden and that's where she met Heejin. What happens next we have to wait for the next MV.
Sacredproz oh my god I'm SO IN FOR THIS
you’re MIND
This reminds me of Adam & Eve so much.
You can make a movie out of this xbsjs
Whoa whoa
Hyunjin doesn't apear in Gowon's MV because Hyunjin and Choerry have opposite colors so Hyunjin can't be reflected through Choerry's mirror!
*MIND BLOWN*
There was a color theory posted stating that Hyun Jin was a member of odd eye circle, because red yellow and blue are primary colors, and somehow she left odd eye circle world and Kim lip and jinsoul combined their colors to make choerry
Also, keep in mind that yellow (Hyunjin’s color) and purple (Choerry’s color) are complementary colors.
I'm practically a new orbit and I'm just wrapping my head around this entire loonaverse and it's very very interesting. I don't know if anyone has talked about this yet but was there ever a theory before that talks about the connection between Choerry and Hyunjin? First of all, I think both of them look kind of similar. But other than that, I think there's more to Hyunjin's role. Like you said, if we base on her color, she should be a part of OEC as it is a primary color like Kim Lip's Red and Jinsoul's Blue. OEC's world is the part of the Mobius strip where the "flip" happens, which explains why they seem to have powers. What I'm saying is that Hyunjin may be an original OEC member, even before Kim Lip and Jinsoul, and has her own powers as well. Many are saying Kim Lip can travel through time, jinsoul can teleport, but bear with me when I think Hyunjin possesses the ability to transform. But she is a part of 1/3, why could that be? I think she preffered to live in the mundane world, especially having found friends. Remember in her introductory mv, she was seen wearing a cat head mascot, a representation of her cat symbol, might be, but what if it also meant adjusting to the normal world, which explains why she is not fully human yet (cat head, human body as she can transform). But then at the end she found Heejin while still being in her unusual form, but Heejin wasn't surprised. Eventually they became friends and she became more adjusted to the life of a human in the world of 1/3.
And then we get introduced to OEC members, but Hyunjin is gone. The unit cannot become a complete circle with a member missing, and so they needed a new one. Kim Lip and Jinsoul's combined powers makes Choerry's color, purple, but also makes the most powerful member in the unit, as Choerry seems to be the only one who can travel through dimensions (in other words she can transcend time and space, which if you think about it is actually Kim Lip and Jinsoul's individual powers) Choerry was invited to the OEC when Jinsoul gave her the Cherry. Hyunjin knows about this (because of her previous connection to OEC), and sees that Choerry still seems a little lost, considering the amount of power given to her. And what happens is that another version of Choerry is seen "blinding" her with mirror reflections and guiding her to places. Mirrors, reflection, herself, mirrors, doors to another dimension, know where I'm getting at? What I'm saying is that Hyunjin probably transformed herself into a mirrored version of Choerry to explain to her about the presence of another dimension and supernatural powers (and OEC itself). This connection between Hyunjin and Choerry or OEC in general could explain the random Hyunjin appearance in Girl Front. She might be the mysterious girl seen running around the OEC members, which could further explain that she knows about OEC before it was fully formed, but the other members are not fully aware of her. Hyunjin's power could also explain why she was the only one who didn't have a face to face interaction with Go Won as her counterpart in Go Won's video. In Yves' case, ViVi appeared to Yve's AFTER she ate her apple. Haseul also appeared to Chuu AFTER she rejected Eden, same goes to Olivia Hye meeting Heejin. In all cases, they have ALREADY fallen out of Eden when they met their 1/3 counterparts, which means they are already on 1/3's universe. But when the cat appeared in Go Won's MV, it was before she ate the pineapple, which means that Go Won was STILL in Eden at that time, and in the world of Eden, Hyunjin's reflection (since Eden is a reversed or mirrored version of 1/3) is A CAT, as she is not originally human. Hyunjin may be able to transform into anything but her original form, I think, is a cat, which explains why she found it hard to transition into a normal human and often ended up having a part of her still a cat (her head) before meeting the 1/3 members. In the flipside, Hyunjin is a cat, in the OEC world, she's in total control of her powers, in the 1/3 world, she seldomly uses her powers (eg. assisting Choerry) and learns to fully become human. That said, as Go Won is still in Eden when the cat appeared, I think it's safe to say that that cat is Hyunjin rather than just a representation.
That's just my wild guess though.
Satoshi Sasayan oh my god that’s amazing! Thanks for explaining!! In LOONAVERSE and all LOONA’s mv’s ( also their solos ) it’s all so crazy and you want to know more about the story !
@@kristofferloistantano7801 your mind scares me in the best kind of way. YOU'RE A GENIUS
María Velásquez Thank you very much i slept in the morning just coming up with a theory I was literally so invested in it. If you don’t mind reading a very long comment, I actually modified this theory quite a bit and expanded it for the creation of other girls. Personally I believe using color theory as a base theory gives us how the individual members of loona are realized. I originally commented this theory on Croissant de LOONA’s intro analysis theory but i’ll post it here in case you or others would want to read it. It’s very long so you can skip it if you like. But here it goes. This theory started with a question that what if we all have just been fooled all along? That what if Olivie Hye was actually the first?
Since we're focusing on colors anyway, let's get some help from the color wheel. And also, of course, this theory wouldn’t be complete without borrowing Croissant de LOONA’s thoughts, which was the powerhouse of all this color theory (I just modified some).
Now, at first, there was no color, only black and white, which tells us that Olivia, being able to represent all shades between black and white, is the first to ever exist, and she's not quite human and she lives in a place called Eden. Three girls, however, are quite special. This makes it so that Sweet, Crazy Love begins our timeline. In the MV, Kim Lip and Jinsoul are starting to awaken their inner colors, thinking there might be more to the world than just black and white. Notice that here, we don't see Choerry activate her odd eye, and that's for a particular reason to be explained later. The power itches inside Kim Lip, so she activates it fully through Eclipse, awekening her superpowers and allowing her to move into the mirror dimension (the flip side of the Mobius strip). The eclipse is actually a very important event in the Loonaverse. Notice how Kim Lip is the only individual girl to have an eclipsing moon in the intro. Her introduction, primarily, shook the Loonaverse and paved way to the other side. Originally, their intros wax to one side and fade in a crescent, but her eclipse showed that waxing from the opposite side is actually possible to make a circle, which is why there is now a waxing to the right or to the left. Additionally, her eclipse changed the background from black to white, because naturally, it gets dark during an eclipse. Looking at it this way, the eclipse created a bridge between the two, mirroring worlds, one of which is Eden. Now, Olivia doesn't want this. She tries to stop Kim Lip but fails to do so mistakingly adding a shade of white to her (when she should have added black), accidentally creating Heejin and her pink, which, with the eclipse, is the mirror equivalent of Olivia. At the same time as the eclipse, Jinsoul is already Singing in the Rain, trying to awaken her own powers. Olivia, with her failed attempt, proceeded to go to her and throws a shade of black, but by then Jinsoul has fully awakened so she is not severely affected and her blue does not change. Olivia does, however, manage to get some black into Jinsoul as even before awakening, she has already made moves to catch Jinsoul's attention eg. pulling down Jinsoul's headphones in the train (yes I believe that was Olivia as she is the only member who can move through black and white shades). The third girl is actually Hyunjin, who has trouble realizing her powers and has taken quite the repercussions because of it, which I will expound later. These three girls are the primary elements that could destroy Olivia's black and white world, but where is Hyunjin?
Heejin awakens from a black and white world into one that is full of color. This is not what is actually happening, but rather a vision of what Heejin wants, as is seen through her "pink" or positive and rose-colored viewpoint. But to do that she needs to have the primary colors, and there are some colors she particularly want: yellow, orange, and green. Now as Hyunjin is supposed to be a primary color, it makes sense that she also need to activate her powers, which I believe is the power to transform into anything, a shape shifter, if you might (I actually believe Kim Lip's power is time travel and Jinsoul's is teleportation). She fails to fully activate her powers and is sent to a different world. Hyunjin, being lonely, seeks to find friendship. She lives alone and is very fond of cats, as is seen in Around You. With her powers, she occasionally practices to transform into a cat, but as her powers haven't fully awakened, she cannot fully become a cat. She meets Heejin at the end of Around You, and, surprised that Heejin wasn't afraid of her half-cat half-human appearance, forms a friendship between her. Conveniently, Hyunjin is one of the colors Heejin wants for her vivid world. And with their friendship, building confidence inside Hyunjin, she eventually gains control of her power, but she can no longer activate her odd eye because someone else has already taken her place.
While Hyunjin and Heejin form a bond, Kim Lip and Jinsoul become desperate because they couldn't complete their circle without the third primary color. So instead they mixed their colors and powers together to awaken Choerry, who obtains the ability to travel between dimensions. By the time Hyunjin is ready to awaken, Choerry has already appeared. However, since Choerry isn't an original, she is only a mirrored version of Hyunjin. If we look at the color wheel, purple is directly opposite of yellow, in a way mirroring it. This makes it so that what Kim Lip and Jinsoul created is only a mirrored version of the original Hyunjin, which explains why her right eye is the odd eye, as opposed to Kim Lip and Jinsoul having theirs on the left. Following this, if Hyunjin has awakened her powers on time, she might have had her odd eye on the left. (It is important to note that whenever Choerry is around, there's bound to be some mirror-like effects to her surroundings). What happened instead is that Hyunjin secretly helped Choerry in her task as someone who gained an Odd eye (which is originally supposed to be Hyunjin's responsibility). With her ability, she transformed herself literally into a mirrored version of Choerry, which is the other Choerry we see in Girl Front, explaining her very random appearance in the video. I also firmly believe it is Hyunjin circling the three girls, symbolizing their frustration in finding the third primary color. She circles them while the three girls gather with a map in the center. The reason why they couldn't find Hyunjin at all is because she transformed into Choerry.
(I'll continue the rest in another comment)
Yvesdropping. Oh you. I love it.
Our fandom wouldn't be the same without you, you're a very precious piece of this whole amazing puzzle that is the Loonaverse.
Thank you, Daebak Jjang!
yess, thank you!! also i think that GoWon and Olivia have some sort of connection, because she's the only one who turns to look at Olivia when her, Yves and Chuu are running away from the school. Also in the 'yyxy' logo, we can see that two y's (Chuu and Yves) and the x (GoWon) are connected, but the 'x' is also connected to another 'y' which should be Olivia.
and as for the title of the song, 'love4eva'... Yves is pronunced as 'Eve' (like Adam and Eve) and Eve's name in my language (italian) is 'Eva', so the title could mean 'Love for Yves'? idk if it made sense lmao
We know, even something like looking back to someone has a deep meaning in LOONA.
Eva is also German.
I knew it, the story is about Yves, building her harem.
that eva part got me shook.
what if love4eva actually means love for Yves 'cuz she found a way to escape Eden?
eva vietnamese too :O
Eva is the name in swedish as well!
I guess it's kinda logic the Love4eva is dark version, because it's mirrored version.
I think it should also be pointed out that when Olivia was lost in the forest the pane turned to red and its the same in her solo when the pane turned to red and we saw the eye of the wolf opening up. This is where she got decided to get her revenge and eat her fruit to escape (I think the falle angel and feathers was because the obedient goody too shoes, an angel, and she finally rejected eden, causing her to be a fallen angel).I was thinking that maybe wondering through the forest Olivia stumbled upon the dear.
I also think Go won and her had a connection as when they were eating at the table I thought Olivia was eating a pineapple and did she also appear in Go won mv as a shadow. She was also the only one to turn back to Olivia. I think Go won wanted to escape and fit in with the other girls.
I find it really interesting as well that love4eva gives me the indication that the solos did not directly happen as they looked (because they were in Eden in that mansion. It was just from the perspective of each member and the solos were even more of a metaphor than we thought.
Yeah, I was wondering about the connection between Go Won and Olivia as well. If Olivia is the late shadow in the end of One and Only, is she also the shadow mentioned in the lyrics? There's an interesting correlation between Go Won's "In this universe, it isn't a coincidence that I met myself" and Olivia's "It isn't a coincidence that you met me, it was fate, a blessing for me". It could be that Go Won rejected Olivia in order to love herself/leave Eden.
Possibly and for Olivia to leave eden, she also had to learn to love herself and stop depending on others for love and such what not. You can only depend on yourself. I mean Olivia was afraid to leave eden because of the consequences and so because of that Go won left her behind. They would probably be the yves and chuu of eden, minus the over admiration of chuu.
Seunghee Tae I specifically pointed her out as a fallen angel because of her nature in the love4eva mv. I think they specifically put the fallen angel and feathers in her solo, as she didnt want to disobey eden and was probably regarded as the most "pure". So its kind of a big deal that she actually disobeyed.
Thats what Im thinking😅
Interestingly, the theory that has been circling twitter about Olivia killing Vivi as revenge on Yves is one to point out. Olivia is mad at Yves for leaving her behind (dropping her metaphorically as we see in the egoist MV), and we know Vivi was special to Yves as they made a connection in Yves 'new' MV. (and that vivi was still human.) However, I don't believe Olivia killed her, instead I think maybe she either tore out her eye or she hurt her badly enough to were someone from OEC (Jinsoul?) or one of the other girls had to step in and change her to an android in order to live. If the eye theory is right, maybe Jinsoul gives Vivi her blue eye? We know Jinsoul also has a connection to Vivi since their initial meeting in everyday i need you MV, and we also know Jinsoul's power could be teleporting which she wasn't doing in her MV singing in the rain. Instead she was running. (lost her eye and her eye and her power?) This leads me to my final point, I think Jinsoul was trying to warn Vivi about Olivia. In the egoist MV the words' fallen angel' behind Jinsoul is written in hanzi and who do we know to be the only Chinese member? Vivi. So if Vivi is the only member who can understand Chinese, why would Jinsoul be trying to communicate to any of the other members in a language they can't understand? It's to my belief that Jinsoul was trying to warn Vivi of the destruction Olivia is capable of in this state of mind, and is referring to Olivia as the 'fallen angel' from Eden.
kim lip punching bag I believe the same thing but I forgot to include it. Are you on amino?
I think that instead of the three MVs being before love4eva, they went through only in the girls' heads. In new, Yves questions and disobeys God, and she left the "school" and got punished for it. Chuu saw all of that a mile away, and when Yves invites her, she just follows along. With One&Only, I think Go Won was persuaded a lot, feeling a bit stalked and with Yves trying to convince her, and in the end, she decides to go along with them. But your points about Choerry are very very interesting, I like them very much. And there's a theory that says that Yves left Eden, enjoyed and came back to get the girls. She met Vivi and was interested in her, because of course, Vivi is technically not an angel and Yves' counterpart. But honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore and I think I'll wait for the repackage for more answers.
Kim Lip is the headmaster in Love4eva in my opinion, hence her red clipboard. Girl Front and Sweet Crazy Love is the story of Kim Lip looking for her students to return them to Eden. In Kim Lip’s eclipse she sings about wanting all the colors so maybe she’s collecting them for herself and puts together a team (Odd Eye Circle) to search for them. If you go back to Eclipse, Girl Front, and Sweet Crazy Love and pay attention to Kim Lip’s lines as well as her demeanor it makes sense, to me at least. So the timeline goes YYXY then OEC but I’m still not sure how Loona 1/3 fits yet.
Pj M Wow!!! Also, eclipse literally means "the abandonment", "the downfall", or "the darkening of a heavenly body" aka FALLEN ANGEL!!
if you take into account the loonatic mv and the mystery girl ( a member of yyxy), this makes since because the look of disgust oec had looking at her. she was taunting them bc they couldn’t make her go back.
she's also an OWL which are commonly used to symbolize education and wisdom.
@*insert clever username* well... I heard a theory that Jinsoul was sent by Olivia to kill Vivi (because Yves fell in love with her, this was before Yves rejected her), but since Jinsoul and Vivi have a connection, Jinsoul turned Vivi into an android instead since she felt bad for Vivi.
I mentioned in Around You but Korean people call their cats “Nabi”, literal translation being butterfly.
ONCEfineapplinus why do they call their cats "butterflies" tho?
Dahyunnie Jyp I have no idea
ONCEfineapplinus oh ok then 😂
Well
@@rebecaz659 its just a common name for cats there ig
your theory makes my kidney doki doki
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Touching on the reverse order theory, Yeojin is possibly outside of the Loonaverse or in the forest that Olivia was alone in. Vivi is probably in the forest that Olivia is in too, bc Olivia probably turns her into an android. Frogs, wolves, and deer all live in the forest, with deer being a main prey of wolves. Yeojin could also be some sort of ruler in the loonaverse. Also, Hyunjin and Gowon are probably unit variables, which probably has to do with them not meeting. Choerry replaces Hyunjin in 1/3 for the Love & Live remix ver. I see Gowon as a variable in a more mathematical way. In algebra, X is a very common variable. Ys, maybe it's not a coincidence that the 3rd unit is YYXY, tend to be dependent on the X value. Seeing that Gowon had a crown on in One and Only, the word "dependent" seems like it could come in handy. In a monarchy, the lives of citizens are dependent on royalty. You could turn yyxy into a typical algebraic equation of 3y=x. 1/3x is equal to y then. 1/3 IS THERE. Is this saying that Gowon has the most power, with each member of yyxy only being a third of that? Hyunjin probably replaces Choerry in OEC when she goes to 1/3 as seen from the Girl Front cameo. Gowon probably replaces Choerry in OEC when she goes to yyxy; I guess that'll be at the next study group.
xDfairytailfangirl I will support your last idea. I have a theory that Choerry was supposed to be in loona 1/3 and hyunjin in OEC. she’s yellow and with kimlip and jinsoul gave all the other colors to the girls, but because they were so different, Choerry came to bring balance between our 2 goddesses(???) also that other version of loona 1/3 has another concept and dance and Vivi has a soul there (dark hair) so maybe what happened to her changed everything...
xDfairytailfangirl yeojin found vivi, vivi encountered olivia then became an android. Would that mean olivia may be the reason why yeojin is lost?
WhoA that Gowon-Choerry-Hyunjin theory is AMAZING! Thank you for sharing !
isnt 1 in 1/3 is Vivi?
Даня Таргарян I thought it was called LOONA 1/3 because Loona has 12 members and 1/3 of 12 is 4.
idk if this counts, but in One & Only, a cat was in the music video, which is Hyunjin’s representative animal.
it was mentioned in the video, but again it was just a cat, a representation. Gowon and Hyunjin never interacted directly
well chaewon also made hyunjins bracelet so
Sacredproz wasnt mixnine finals being made at that time? maybe hyunjin just couldn't appear on the filming and maybe mixnine is actually the reason for the february delay of olivia hye's reveal and egoist, because there had a possibility of the girls debuting, also because bbc probably wanted heejin to appear on the end of egoist mvskejeisjwnri idk
Sacredproz but if yyxy is mirrored 1/3 then hyunjin=go won
someone also mentioned that koreans call their cats "nabi" which means butterfly
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I don't know if you cleared it but JinSoul appears in the second ViVi's MV "Everyday I Need You", this reaffirms your theory
YESSS I'VE BEEN WAITING
ur a genius with moving the members and getting the units!!! 😱😱
i've seen another interesting theory that suggests that Go won is actually linked to Haseul. Go won is the x in yyxy, while Haseul has a "boy" version of herself. even her song title in Korean is "boy, girl". this theory gets even deeper, when you see yyxy individual teasers, with Go won being the only one with a dress, while the other 3 are wearing suits. to me it makes more sense Haseul and Go won being connected, instead of Haseul and Chuu. aside from the fact that they're both the December girls, there's nothing else that explains their interaction in Heart attack
soha that was just a joke though. They tried scaring her by saying she's gonna be adam, but the staff were just trolling. But who knows? It is BBC after all
the gowon being a boy part was a joke. Don't forget the whole mobius theory and 1/3 mirroring yyxy, thus the whole Yves/Vivi, Chuu/Haseul, Gowon/Hyunjin, Olivia/Heejin thing. Their MVs pretty much confirmed that theory
Also, their hair colors! We see both in Haseul's and in Go Won's videos that they have a dark hair and blonde hair version of themselves
peng chuu omg true. And they're both the 3rd members of each unit. Wow
I read somewhere that this was bc Haseul killed herself and then Chuu died in the cold so that's why it was Haseul
I’m 3:43 into the video so this may be said in the next second but I just realized that go won, yves, and chuu’s skirts are all primary colors, while olivia’s is a secondary color
I like the theory that vivi was normal but then Yves (before getting out of Eden with all the girls) decided to met her and when Olivia hye almost kills vivi, jinsoul was the one who helped her, making her a robot so that's why she has the odd eye, because she has already seen yyxy dimension and the twist where oec lives. Thanks for your videos!
I heard another theory that olivia hye killed ViVi (or at least TRIED to kill her) then Heejin came and saved her but now she's just a droid with limited functions
And the reason for Olivia targeting Vivi is because Vivi is/was close to Yves, right? And from this analysis video, Olivia wants to take revenge on Yves?
woojin's snaggletooth yes and yes, she definetly hates Yves. Also some People said that god (that woman) Sent her to destroy and ruin the girsl that left but I don't think so.
I like this theory too because it’s so dramatic. Heheh
Haven't even watched the video yet, I'VE been waiting for this
August is the month of Leo. It's also a Sun sign which is the opposite of LOONA (lunar). Another brilliant move, BBC!
I thought that maybe Olivia was the only real girl. Like she was trapped in the house and the other three are figments of her imagination. Eventually, however she decides to let them go and be free rather than stay there and comfort her anymore.
20:19 ,Hyunjin and Gowon actually interacted with eachother in SeeSaw Unreleased MV That was shown in the cinema event, Gowon makes a bracelet while Chuu fell asleep infront of her, and when she finished, she put the bracelet to a *cat*. Hyunjin's representative animal, not my theory but someone said that the cat arrived at Hyunjin's house with the bracelet and tried getting it off but accidentally broke Hyunjin's plant pot that is growing strawberries, but sucsessfully got the bracelet off. Earlier Hyunjin also noticed the plant pot with strawberries broke, and checked nearby rooms to find a bracelet (the same bracelet Gowon made), thinking it was a gift from a friend.
21:10 , and the reason why Hyunjin appeared in Girl Front MV Was because she was a former OEC member, yet again its not my theory and don't insult me for it but OEC was supposed to be a group with primary colors as their representative colors, early on OEC's creation, Hyunjin starts to miss Heejin and sends letters to her, she left OEC because she really missed Heejin so much that she even got to Earth (aka the dimension 1/3 lives in), which is why we see her writing letters in Around You MV.
Btw, to the connection between Yves, ViVi, JinSoul and Olivia Hye:
In “new“ we see the moment where Yves denied Eden and ate an apple. Like you said “love4eva“ plays after “new“. And in our favorite moment, where Yves was rollerskating with ViVi (better watch out, Chuu!) she was wearing her Eden-uniform. So maybe it was during the time where Yves was always sneaking out from Eden and secretly meeting ViVi.
And well, Olivia Hye was kinda PISSED that the girls left her in Eden (Poor baby wolf, kill 'em all!) and out of revenge she -(almost?)- killed our beloved ViVi out of hate for Yves, since she started with everything and Olivia found out that Yves had a crush on her (Have you seen how she smiled at ViVi?! Bitch please, she falls for ViVi like Chuu falls for her!). Wolves like to eat deers.
Or maybe she send JinSoul to assasinate ViVi. Here, I have something from TvTropes: *Foreboding and dark, and the lyrics give it a new dimension of scary; she's talking about fusing with Olivia Hye and becoming the same person as her, the results from which neither girl will escape. The "for the sin" line also ties the song together with Singing in the Rain and alerts us to the fact that something dark was going on under our noses... for ten months.*
Singing In The Rain: *For the sin of swallowing up all the stars in the sky/You have spread blue/We’re standing on top of this night/And this song is falling right now [...] For the sin of swallowing up the afternoon sun/I’m right here, so hot/Alone with you tonight (it rings out)*
Egoist: *Hey, for the sin of swallowing you/You get bigger and bigger, beautiful you/You are me, now I’m you*
Who doesn't want a JinSoul x Olivia Hye fusion? But not in the nice way...maybe Olivia let JinSoul doing this kind of sin like killing an innocent person and JinSoul wants to fuse with her, as her reward?
Oh, and Yves was the dude in disguise from ViVi's MV, just saying ;D
Really, you cannot keep this woman straight ;)
Is someone even reading this? Whatever...
I was kind of thinking Jinsoul might have merged with Choerry, hence her ability to appear in Olivia's MV. Considering the lyrics about the afternoon sun and then in Olivia's MV she's shown eating cherries out of a tin labelled " the sun (in) the afterno(on)".
Oh shit mindBLOWN
This may sound no sense but from the comments i've been reading in this video, there was one comment that deers and wolves reside in the forest. Hence probably why Yves sneaked out to the woods at the start of the love4eva mv (due to dirty sock) to find Vivi/deer?
Oh yeah, since it was JinSoul who placed the cherry on the cake, which was eaten by Choerry. But yeah, there is a possibility that JinSoul and Choerry merged. But it could be, that she wants to fuse with Olivia, since she's talking about their sins.
That could also be! It's clear that Yves wants to escape Eden, that's why she ate an apple. This supports my theory, that Yves was sneaking out to see ViVi. But it could also be that she was sneaking out of Eden, because she didn't want to be there and just happens to meet ViVi.
But hmm, there is not still enough proof, that she wanted to find ViVi, but why?
My brain was too little for this.
1) in the girl front video from line&up, it's revealed that Yves was running around the girls in Loonatic, and it is also seen that Yves gives Choerry a compact mirror. That's how choerry connects to yyxy
2) the end of love4eva definitely leads to Egotist, Olivia hye is drooping her head.
My take on the storyline of Olivia Hye, is that since she was left out of leaving Eden with the rest of yyxy, she's angry. She's kinda a teachers pet, but thinks the teacher is unfair. Then she realizes how to love herself "from now on, I'll myself instead of you, I'll live on".
Unlike the rest of yyxy, *she doesn't need Yves to love herself*.
All of that combined is now turned into the egoist mv. Olivia Hye is still in yyxy because she rejected Eden, just not with Yves. But unlike gowon, in some way that is unknown.
If the girls are "angels" because they're aren't in Eden anymore , and Olivia Hye is a fallen angel, it's because she left out of revenge. So far, the storyline doesn't go PAST egoist, just explanations and what happened before. So we don't really know if Olivia Hye actually killed Vivi or what she does once she leaves Eden. Egoist
Mv explains her actual falling from Eden. Then meeting heejin and thats it.
Tbh, idk if the scene with Heejin is just first member meeting last, or Olivia Hye looking to Heejin for guidence.
Also interesting, Vivi and Olivia Hye both weren't included in their subunits, but apparently Olivia Hye killed (you who was sent by God, kill everything without hesitation or something) Vivi(also interesting Vivi is represented by a deer, a human, and an Android).
Vivi meets Jinsoul, Vivi is in new as a human, Jinsoul is in egoist, olivia Hye resents Yves. Idk, this connection barely has any information to make theories off of.
Rcj. Queenie the first one. Yes I think this was that video I was referring to in my comments along with SeeSaw short hidden clip.
second. there was this wordplay theory since Yves in korean is pronounce like Eve hence “love4eva” it’s like the title itself is giving us the main concept of yyxy story. it’s kinda like as if the 2 girls (Chuu and Gowon) followed the “new” Eden. or their own Eden. Which is Yves.
“love4eva” and Olivia Hye in Egoist goes. “love myself today” “let you go today” it kinda actually makes sense.
Syed Al-ashraff Kinarang agree
Yesssss!!! We have been waiting!!!
“yvesdropping” I snorted
coming back here after 3 years, these theories helped me get into loona, thank you :3
Hi daebak jjang, i have a theory about vivi (unrelated to this video, sorry) . You know in egoist, olivia hye burnt the cassete tape that was in eily, so i believe that the cassete tape represents vivi memories of loona(since cds of loona were played in the tape) , so its like burning vivi memories loona, causing her to have no feelings about loona. When burning vivi cassete tape, u see red and blue, which combined=purple, red,blue,purple=oec, therefore vivi had an odd eye=oec, why not like oec's odd eye?(i dont know), but if u look closely, vivi odd eye in love and live is purple
I don't think you know how long I've been waiting
Theory marathon i just realized i'm watching all of your videos for a long time without getting sick of it! It's amazing😭😭😭
the loonaverse is too vast and deep, we just keeps on getting more questions than answers as we go haha
Just remember that Olivia was the girls that ‘You, who was sent by god destroy all the things without hesitation’, so maybe she’s not lost, but just was sent to find the other girls... and maybe get lost, who knows?
Why do I think:
Yves - Adam
Chuu - Eve
Go Won - God
Olivia - Lilith or Lucifer
shouldn't be yves eve and chuu adam, since in the bible eve pushed adam into sin?
The fact that this is the second to the last predebut/unit MV theory before the complete LOONA is making me all nervous and hyped up.
And additional fact that the scene in Egoist where yyxy members are seen in parking lot wasn’t shown in love4eva. It seems like there will be really some high possibilities that the repackaged will be different. and them dropping hints or teasing it by the break dances (yes the original and the other 3) it could really happen.
And another another fact is when LOONA said that their debut concept will be the “darkest” so these unsolved mysteries and unanswered questions seems to have a very very “dark” answers. which is giving me chills tbh. We are almost there. Holy sh-
As I was wondering if there was a new theory and opened youtube, i saw your theory! Omg thank you~
wait i opened youtube to study economics how am i halfway through the mv theory video of a song i heard last week
One thing that I am most curious about is Kim Lip's existence in the loonaverse, she's the only one that doesn't have any connection to the other units, she only appeared in her own mv, her unit and the ot12. I want to know more about her place in the loonaverse. She is also not included in most of the member's/unit's story, unlike the other oec members that is in both 1/3 and yyxy.
Just, who is Kim Lip?
Oh, wait. She is slightly connected to Gowon and Chuu because of See Saw, but that's just one line...
and I can't think of anything that would involve her to them.
I hope that we get more of Kim Lip's part in the loonaverse soon.
so olivia is basically lost like yeojin now or ???
No, (i think) in egoist, she joins yyxy, but through hatred. She's not lost like yeojin, and BBC definitely didnt hint towards Olivia being lost either.
tune in to yyxy's repackage to understand more lol
Isaac Steltzer but the timeline is yves/new, chuu/heart attack, go won/one and only, yyxy/love 4 eva, Olivia hye/egoist... But you could be right though what if Olivia did join yyxy but through hatred since she burned yves' animal, but on the other hand the rest of the girls wanted her to join but not just now since they will be easily caught by the headmistress/God
Edit: but it wouldn't also make sense because in the end Olivia was found by heejin, what if, Olivia wasn't supposed to be in yyxy what if she was supposed to be in 1/3 and yeojin was supposed to be in yyxy, it makes sense though since BBC said that yeojin was lost in the woods, maybe she was lost in the woods outside of eden and the yyxy girls found her, while when Olivia escapes eden(when in reality eden wasn't beautiful but dark and dirty like that warehouse) she was found by heejin and welcomed to 1/3
OMGG I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE YOU, !!!! this is so good, I hope we can have like a "movie" with all the MV and theories explained
thanks for taking the time to make these videos!! i love watching them and they help me understand loona soooo much better!! also 18:20 rocked my world i didn’t know about that theory omg i literally got chills
My mind is about to explode, i've been bingewatching a lot of theories and reading a lot of comments (super interesting theories) and every theory makes sense and now I don't know what to think :)
I have been waiting so long for this! The whole Gowon/Choerry/Apple theory blew my mind. I can’t believe you caught onto something like that!!
Thank you so much, excellent work as always...Love the part of Rosaceae
And remember "One apple a day, keeps Eden away..."
Wow, just wow, I always love your theories you put so much hard work and effort into them and they also fit so well they make me rethink everything I already thought. So keep up the great work I love them!
You truly are a genius... I don’t know how you work these things out😫
I was waiting for your analysis since the MV came out!!!! I’m so happy! Thank you Daebak for putting the effort to explain with so much detail this MV and how it connects to the others! P.S.: The Choerry thing BLEW MY MIND
Im mind blown. Thank you for doing theories omgg
I am new to this fandom and I personally think that this fandom is for intellectuals only. Oh God y'all so great I honestly feel that I'm intelligent but after seeing you all creatively analyze everything in each of the MV, wow, I feel dumb rn. can u accept a dumb stan like me?
Lope Jung lmao we're all honestly just burning our few braincells trying to make sense of the loonavers. you're more than welcome here!
valerie i can provide the support by buying albums and streaming I can't do this interpretation really well. Hahahaha
Yassss it's here.... Love you for everything that you do have did and will do...... Now go back and get the earlier ones
DUDEEE 19:10 literally gave me chills!!! NOW IT MAKES SENSE!! Awesome theories! I'm a big fan! :)
at 18:21 if you look at the pictures, even their hairstyles are a little similar
I'm writing my IB Philosophy IA on Loona and citing this video
16:05 its from the girl front, also there is blue and red as the shadow from the thing (which is kimlip and jinsoul) and also the floor which is color purple (choerry)
Yes yes i've been waiting for mv theory ! Thankyooou !
I’m new to Loonaverse and this has helped me understand, thank you
OMG finall thank you so much for keep doing this videos... youre great!
My heAD HURTS but WOW i appreciate this video i love it as always !!! I only watch and believe ur theory video :,)
As your username... DAEBAK, thank you sm for doing this video i really enjoy watching and struggling with the theories
i want point out that yyxy album beauty and beat which might be reference to beauty and the beast, where plot involves around rose as well
+ yyxy logo has 2 empty lines at the end which is going from yy, and in the room where girls studying 2 empty chairs, which represent choerry and vivi.
i think my theory why yves rejected olivia, because olivia may smt did to vivi, dont forget olivia is wolf and vivi is deer.
Anna S Isn't Vivi a deer? :o
woojin's snaggletooth yes i misspelled
but Olivia is seemingly the good girl and hasnt even stepped out of the school, how would she kill vivi? I think Yves' rejection of Olivia making her become 'evil' makes more sense
Sacredproz i agree, but why yves was ignoring that much olivia at first, because she in under 18? or there is different reason
Like daebak has mentioned in the video, in new and egoist we saw that Yves at least tried to get Olivia along too, but Olivia was probably too good of a girl and didnt want to leave or do anything bad, so she left her out of the plan in the end
Am I going to watch almost half an hour of a loona video, yes I am.
you're amazing!!! i've been watching your vids and sharing them with my friends for a looooong time. hopefully you'll keep at loona stans side forever.
THANK YOU SO MUCH DAEBAKJJANG THE WAIT FOR THIS WAS WORTH IT
It's scary how you manage to piece all of this together like damn you're a mastermind
I was waiting for this! I LOVE YOU, THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING! NICE JOB
For Gowon she is the one who says "by" in yy by y (loonatv#346) so you are right she is special
Im here for LOONA's music but I stayed because of LOONAVERSE. This is for freaking gooooooooooood!!!
aaaaa i've been waiting for this since they dropped the mv!!!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
I always wait for you to drop your video. You explain everything so well! Thanks for doing this!
I've been waiting for this.
20:19 we DID see hyunjin in Go Wons music video!! At 1:33 she appears as her animal, the cat!
A detail that could be used as a piece of evidence that egoist hasn't happened yet could be the fact that all the girls except Olivia were wareing there colors while Olivia wore green not black, meaning that she still didn't expect her self at that point
MY LOVE PLEASE GET GOJNNG WITH THE NEW MVS THEORY IM STILL WIATING FOR YOU I TRUST ONLY YOUR THEORY
In Girl Front Choerry was searching for the other members, BUT perhaps she was focused or at least prioritizing a certain one, in this case Hyunjin who she found. Now the reason she was looking for Hyunjin might be because Yves entrusted her with Go Won's apple and hyunjin is the "upside down" image of Go Won, making Go Won the "upside down" image of Hyunjin. So by finding Hyunjin she also found Go Won, since as a bat she can, in this case, "walk" upside down. If this is true we can also pinpoint ourselves in the story timeline from both views.
{Edit: the *highlighted* part was somewhat shown in the video, I just wrote this before finishing so as to not forget}
*It should also be mentioned that from the reverse theory, Vivi the "upside-down" of Yves is the one left alone while Heejin is somewhat let's say the "popular?" one in 1/3, whereas Olivia is left alone in yyxy with Yves being the "popular"( xD ) one. The MVs are also similar, especially at the end where Olivia is trying to do what the others are doing and ends up lost while Vivi tries to run and get tired like the other girls until her battery runs out(?) ( I don't remember clearly).*
So based on the members debut the reverse is: Heejin-Olivia Yves-Vivi
while based on the event it is:Heejin-Yves Olivia-Vivi
This also solves why we see Jinsoul in both Vivi's and Olivia's MVs
on a side note: In "Everyday I love you" Vivi is seen liking the male character, which turns out to be Yves since her memories were distorted and all, but Yves is Vivi (in reverse), so EILY was actually a song about self-love, just like new and they most likely took part at the same time( + since Olivia is angry with Yves it is also another reverse).
I just can't wait for their 2nd MV and maybe the full group debut (in case the 2nd one doesn't solve the mysteries, and let's be honest it most probably won't xD )
WOW THIS IS AN AMAZING VIDEO IM SHOOK
Thank you so much for this!!!! You really are a gift to this fandom!!!!
another little bit to add to the theory of the connection of the units: in her mv Hyunjin goes to a hairdresser. I can't tell if she gets much change in her hair, but her complementary part GoWon definitely does in her mv!
also, I was waiting for this video! thank you so much for your work, it's amazing ^^
You keep amazing me with your theory videos please keep the great work ❤️
In addition, the pineapple leaves are like a crown, just like the plot of her coronation in the mv, which also confirms her stage name go won, maybe she is the winner of the new world
Please make more i love this!!💞
Loona is the only group that I find their mvs interesting because of the theories I watched 😍
this is what ive been waiting for!!!!! :)))))
*"is this a trend in Eden?"*
I LAUGHED MORE THAN I SHOULD
After hearing about the rose family , i realize that Olivia sub-track actually named Rosy and it futuring Go Won whose fruit is a pineapple which is not belong to a rose family and Heejin who you said in the Egoist theory video that suppose to help turning Olivia into yyxy unit member
Been waitinf for this
the iconic d-1 song returns once again!
i also always thought chuu was the x bc of how they line up at the end of the choreo, but also in that scene when the headmistress is looking for them and they sneak out behind them (yves appears first on the left, crouching, then go won from the left, crouching. however chuu comes out from behind a curtain on the right). but you’re right, the evidence that go won is the x is so overwhelming
Ur videos r amazing and saving my life thank you and keep going please we need this 💕💕💕
I'm new and LOONAVERSE is like a movie for me
like blackmirror or smthn
The most awaited video has arrive. Yeayyyy ❤❤😭😭
My theory about the weirdness surrounding Vivi is that she was originally in Eden with YvesxChuuxGowon but was kicked out by the headmistress? and not allowed back in. Olivia is a replacement and therefore not trusted by the others. Because she didn't know Vivi she doesn't have the desire to escape that YvesxChuuxGowon do
It also seems that Olivia Hye and Yves switched titles because Yves shows a lot of her 'egoistic' side than Olivia and Olivia shows that she is trying to change, trying to become 'new' for her to be accepted.