@@retrosuperheroart2202 you give it real justice actually! Im thinking just trace his generic woman faces again and again might actually help improve my copying attempts.
I think tracing is still good to learn things when it comes to eyes and hair and stuff. Something where the underlying shape is actually the shape shown. And then it becomes muscle memory after a while.
@@retrosuperheroart2202 Yeah part of the solution. If I can trace it to perfection i clearly have the ability to draw it. Then it is just an issue of the correct placement and muscle memory. I asked this because i just got a feeling you have traced alot. I have never traced a cool drawing and I think i should absolutely start doing it.
Silvestri was always under rated in my opinion, it seemed like back in the 80s and 90s, he wasn't as appreciated as he is now. seeing how much current professionals talk about how good he was with subtly lines and dynamic posing.
It always blows my mind that he was working at a gym front desk just doodling when he decided to give comics a try. I'm sure he was getting inspiration for the fashion magazines that were lying around.
Oddly enough I’m pretty sure Marc has said in interview with Near Mint Condition that his biggest artistic influence was John Buscema then followed by Frank Frazetta which considering he started at Marvel on Conan is unsurprising.
So there's a clip title designed to get straight into my brain! Wasn't Buscema a mentor to Silvestri? Either way they're both great and I love this breakdown.
Oooh, Marc was the first of the image guys to start at Marvel so Buscema was probably around to mentor. Must have been a great time, with John Romita Sr to learn from as well.
Good morning guys, here we have an anagram for actor Steve Buscemi known for playing in 1992 Quentin Tarantino's movie "Reservoir Dogs" and in 1995 "Desperado" alongside Antonio Banderas (also known for voicing the Puss in Boots character in the Shrek movies...) the movie Desperado is an bloody Ultraviolent filled with Sex Revenge movie about a Mariachi (a guitar player and singer) whose wife gets murdered by a Cartel Boss , he ten goes on a violent rampage all across Mexico trough different bars to find the man responsible "Butcho", let's move on shall we "Art" is probably a subliminal reference (again) to the serial Killer of the Terrifier movies "Art the Clown", "Superhero" on the other hand could be two different things : "Wade you can finally matter, you can be a heroes among heroes" from Deadpool and Wolverine (2024) or it could be the final monologue with actor David Carradine and actress Uma Thurman in the movie Kill Bill volume 2 : "Are you calling me a Superhero ? I'm calling you a Killer, a natural born Killer..." Anyway don't worry rest assured that I will not start drawing or painting for that matter so you can point your fingers right at me and say something's wrong in my head. Peace Next
Can we agree Silvestri was awesome! I became a great fan of his X Men way later on, my original contact with his art was Top Cow stuff, but boy those X Men books of his are gorgeous! not overly complicated, but his talent just comes across in every panel. No disrespect to Busceman! but sadly i haver little from him. I have some inpout, personal experience and knwoledge here. Silvestri has an obvious influence from Fashion, he was obviously influenced by the back the famous Top Models. so knowing this the comparision you make on how Silvestri had more upshots than Busceman might be because fashion magazines had catwalk pictures, in those the models stand higher than the viewer so you had a wide variety of upshots on those mags. i never had trouble with upshots, that is why i say is part personal experience, i used those mags a lot when i started drawing. LOL i have Thierry Mugler's art and there is Lady Deathbird in real life!
@@retrosuperheroart2202 yup! those were awesome times, honestly. and i do have a couple of Silvestri´s X Men issues where Rogue, Dazzler and Psulocke posed like fashion models. and i always felt he gave them that cool Flashdance Flair.
Via Latverian superscience a samesex-homunculus was grown-in-a-tube from the seed of Don Heck and Jack Kirby, yclept John Buscema ! The creature evinced an instant aptitude for Love Comics and for a mutant variant of Spider-Man that looked like a Love Comics Character. Thus the Bronze Age of Comics commenced...
@@retrosuperheroart2202 I met Big John at Comicon in the early 2000s and asked him how to pronounce his name, so I got it "straight from the horse's mouth" if you know that idiom.
You can see Marc's style is a cross between John's and Walter Simonson's. I'd say its Marc's figure work that shines best his faces are kinda generic. Marc is always improving he gets better with age.
He's definitely getting more detail in with age. You're right, I see the Simonson influence now that you mention it. The sometimes sharp change in a body curve. Good stuff!
Marc Silvestri? why not Rick Butler? who is rating Silvestri? Buscema drew sexy stuff. The best ever series , EVER, was Savage Sword of Conan, inked by Alcala. That stuff was like etchings from the past. AMAZING. simple Black and white. Conan was just brilliantly adapted. The movies can never work with Conan. as its about his thinking. THOUGHT BUBBLES. That surly glare? Buscema is next level. Who remembers Silvestri? Did he do X-men or something? I know fans love X-men . Obsessed by Wolverine.
Now that you mention Conan, Barry Windsor Smith might be due for a revisit ;-) As for Silvestri, must be when I started collecting, outback X-Men Chris Claremont. Nothing else comes close.
@@retrosuperheroart2202 BWS, is pretty good, he started by copying Kirby, Daredevil issue 51? and x-men 55? if my memory is correct. I loved x-men 205, the lone wolverine story in the snow. later expanded as weapon x. the colouring was great. i tried to get a copy of MONSTER online. to read. but it was a Spanish copy? I had all the old issues? but sold them all . Wish i had kept them. as the prices sky rocketed? i used to have 5000 plus silver age issues. now i have ten naff ones. I had every Conan issue, and collected Neal Adams. all those are now out of range in prices. The FILMS caused a massive STOCK rise? Oh well rapture is soon. I think I paid £30 for Conan 1 - i would not like to know the price today. It would be a huge price.
@@paultimson6674 love that BWS snow. I told my dad comics were a good investment when I was 16 in the 90s (checking the Wizard price guide...) then was lucky to get 50 bucks for 500 comics when I sold everything 20 years ago.. lol
Great video but how is anyone going to learn with speed time lapse next time do a much slower vedio wow I had to go on the settings and lower the speed in order to understand how it was down no one is going to learn in time laps it's ridiculous
@@stephenmoore3035 That would make more sense, though he did kind of do the temple to temple in the book though. But then with the eye lashes included it looks normal.
It all depends on the drawing style. Buscema's style was more realistic...some of the more stylized cartoony faces will measure differently. I have the book and he draws the eyes smaller than modern comic artists. Those measurements aren't going to stick for every drawing. Typically though the measurement was ear to ear. Look up any head drawing tutorial and most likely it will be measured ear to ear. Interesting though.@@retrosuperheroart2202
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The side view and lip angle is much needed tutorial. Thanks for covering this
My pleasure. I'm glad others can benefit while I'm learning it myself.
I love buscema's style. Have tried to copy it many times... Hard AF...
I know, looks simple but even after following his lessons his look way better lol
@@retrosuperheroart2202 you give it real justice actually! Im thinking just trace his generic woman faces again and again might actually help improve my copying attempts.
I think tracing is still good to learn things when it comes to eyes and hair and stuff. Something where the underlying shape is actually the shape shown. And then it becomes muscle memory after a while.
@@retrosuperheroart2202 Yeah part of the solution. If I can trace it to perfection i clearly have the ability to draw it. Then it is just an issue of the correct placement and muscle memory. I asked this because i just got a feeling you have traced alot. I have never traced a cool drawing and I think i should absolutely start doing it.
Yup, lots of tracing McFarlane in the 90s
I Love the classic Silvestri style... best take on the xmen characters back in the 80s imo
Outback X-Men forever!
Silvestri was always under rated in my opinion, it seemed like back in the 80s and 90s, he wasn't as appreciated as he is now. seeing how much current professionals talk about how good he was with subtly lines and dynamic posing.
It always blows my mind that he was working at a gym front desk just doodling when he decided to give comics a try. I'm sure he was getting inspiration for the fashion magazines that were lying around.
Great content brother what software are you using
Thanks dude, Adobe Photoshop 2024 with a Wacom Intuos for many years already. Love it
The Visual Hell we now call the Bronze Age of Comics
lol Don't Olympic athletes prefer the bronze medal to the silver one because it looks more like gold.. ;-)
Oddly enough I’m pretty sure Marc has said in interview with Near Mint Condition that his biggest artistic influence was John Buscema then followed by Frank Frazetta which considering he started at Marvel on Conan is unsurprising.
Cool thanks, I'm going to listen to that.
So there's a clip title designed to get straight into my brain! Wasn't Buscema a mentor to Silvestri? Either way they're both great and I love this breakdown.
Oooh, Marc was the first of the image guys to start at Marvel so Buscema was probably around to mentor. Must have been a great time, with John Romita Sr to learn from as well.
Good morning guys, here we have an anagram for actor Steve Buscemi known for playing in 1992 Quentin Tarantino's movie "Reservoir Dogs" and in 1995 "Desperado" alongside Antonio Banderas (also known for voicing the Puss in Boots character in the Shrek movies...) the movie Desperado is an bloody Ultraviolent filled with Sex Revenge movie about a Mariachi (a guitar player and singer) whose wife gets murdered by a Cartel Boss , he ten goes on a violent rampage all across Mexico trough different bars to find the man responsible "Butcho", let's move on shall we "Art" is probably a subliminal reference (again) to the serial Killer of the Terrifier movies "Art the Clown", "Superhero" on the other hand could be two different things : "Wade you can finally matter, you can be a heroes among heroes" from Deadpool and Wolverine (2024) or it could be the final monologue with actor David Carradine and actress Uma Thurman in the movie Kill Bill volume 2 : "Are you calling me a Superhero ? I'm calling you a Killer, a natural born Killer..." Anyway don't worry rest assured that I will not start drawing or painting for that matter so you can point your fingers right at me and say something's wrong in my head. Peace Next
Why women are so beautiful?
Because of our hormones? ;-)
Can we agree Silvestri was awesome! I became a great fan of his X Men way later on, my original contact with his art was Top Cow stuff, but boy those X Men books of his are gorgeous! not overly complicated, but his talent just comes across in every panel. No disrespect to Busceman! but sadly i haver little from him. I have some inpout, personal experience and knwoledge here. Silvestri has an obvious influence from Fashion, he was obviously influenced by the back the famous Top Models. so knowing this the comparision you make on how Silvestri had more upshots than Busceman might be because fashion magazines had catwalk pictures, in those the models stand higher than the viewer so you had a wide variety of upshots on those mags. i never had trouble with upshots, that is why i say is part personal experience, i used those mags a lot when i started drawing. LOL i have Thierry Mugler's art and there is Lady Deathbird in real life!
Wow! I love that insight and totally makes sense, the catwalk view!! Thanks!
@@retrosuperheroart2202 yup! those were awesome times, honestly. and i do have a couple of Silvestri´s X Men issues where Rogue, Dazzler and Psulocke posed like fashion models. and i always felt he gave them that cool Flashdance Flair.
Via Latverian superscience a samesex-homunculus was grown-in-a-tube from the seed of Don Heck and Jack Kirby, yclept John Buscema ! The creature evinced an instant aptitude for Love Comics and for a mutant variant of Spider-Man that looked like a Love Comics Character. Thus the Bronze Age of Comics commenced...
lol!
Someone say draw pervy things!?
Im in
lol
IMHO Buscema's faces are much more convincing and appealing than Silvestri's. (Buscema's name BTW, is pronounced with an "s" sound, not an "sh.")
woops lol, I even checked the wikipedia bjuːˈsɛmə bew-SEM-ə; but who ever gets those...
@@retrosuperheroart2202 I met Big John at Comicon in the early 2000s and asked him how to pronounce his name, so I got it "straight from the horse's mouth" if you know that idiom.
@@TheTruth-cy4le Awesome! Yup, that's as definite as it comes ;-)
You can see Marc's style is a cross between John's and Walter Simonson's. I'd say its Marc's figure work that shines best his faces are kinda generic. Marc is always improving he gets better with age.
He's definitely getting more detail in with age. You're right, I see the Simonson influence now that you mention it. The sometimes sharp change in a body curve. Good stuff!
john based his female face off sophia lauren
A man with a good taste I say ;-)
Marc Silvestri? why not Rick Butler? who is rating Silvestri? Buscema drew sexy stuff. The best ever series , EVER, was Savage Sword of Conan, inked by Alcala. That stuff was like etchings from the past. AMAZING. simple Black and white. Conan was just brilliantly adapted. The movies can never work with Conan. as its about his thinking. THOUGHT BUBBLES. That surly glare? Buscema is next level. Who remembers Silvestri? Did he do X-men or something? I know fans love X-men . Obsessed by Wolverine.
Now that you mention Conan, Barry Windsor Smith might be due for a revisit ;-) As for Silvestri, must be when I started collecting, outback X-Men Chris Claremont. Nothing else comes close.
@@retrosuperheroart2202 BWS, is pretty good, he started by copying Kirby, Daredevil issue 51? and x-men 55? if my memory is correct. I loved x-men 205, the lone wolverine story in the snow. later expanded as weapon x. the colouring was great. i tried to get a copy of MONSTER online. to read. but it was a Spanish copy? I had all the old issues? but sold them all . Wish i had kept them. as the prices sky rocketed? i used to have 5000 plus silver age issues. now i have ten naff ones. I had every Conan issue, and collected Neal Adams. all those are now out of range in prices. The FILMS caused a massive STOCK rise? Oh well rapture is soon. I think I paid £30 for Conan 1 - i would not like to know the price today. It would be a huge price.
@@paultimson6674 love that BWS snow. I told my dad comics were a good investment when I was 16 in the 90s (checking the Wizard price guide...) then was lucky to get 50 bucks for 500 comics when I sold everything 20 years ago.. lol
@@retrosuperheroart2202 if only ebay was around before then?
@@paultimson6674 yeah... lol
Great video but how is anyone going to learn with speed time lapse next time do a much slower vedio wow I had to go on the settings and lower the speed in order to understand how it was down no one is going to learn in time laps it's ridiculous
Point taken.. I don't want it to be boring so maybe leaning a bit too much on the time lapse. Thanks for the useful feedback.
You’re not understanding the 1/5 thing
how so?
@@retrosuperheroart2202 it's measured from ear to ear using 5 eye widths. You're measuring from temple to temple
@@stephenmoore3035 That would make more sense, though he did kind of do the temple to temple in the book though. But then with the eye lashes included it looks normal.
It all depends on the drawing style. Buscema's style was more realistic...some of the more stylized cartoony faces will measure differently. I have the book and he draws the eyes smaller than modern comic artists. Those measurements aren't going to stick for every drawing. Typically though the measurement was ear to ear. Look up any head drawing tutorial and most likely it will be measured ear to ear. Interesting though.@@retrosuperheroart2202
check out Arthur Adams in that New Mutants special, very small eyes but also very far apart. Almost double eyes in the center.. lol Looks cool though