Today started using Ardour! Getting into it and creating music is a challenge. But recording works already. So my next drum covers will be recorded with Ardour!!! Keep on your work!
Ardour has the most annoying and fiddly interface I have ever seen in a DAW. The general lack of feedback when anything isn't done the way Ardour wants it, makes it incredibly hard to actually do it the specific way that's needed. Utterly counter intuitive. It sucks.
I hate the piano roll being in the track. It's such a dumb design choice to have to resize the track every time I wanna edit midi, which is all the time. I'm still gonna learn Ardour because I want to commit to a totally open source workflow and it's pretty much the only working option unless Zrythm improves a lot.
I will admit Ableton Live would be a nice distro to use, especially for certain kinds of music, but I really don't like how it is designed as "software as a service", which means it's useless if you can't maintain your subscription.
I got a secondary computer with Linux installed so having a DAW that has the same interface in both Windows and Linux is a plus for me. (read as: someone who wants to make a smooth transition to Linux only). 😁
I don't think Ardour is simple at all, and some of its features are very limited: for instance, it cannot be used to time-stretch individual sections of a waveform (you must edit the entire track or none!). And if a section of a waveform can be quantized, nobody to date has been able to share steps that work. The manual typically focuses on the 'what' and not the 'how', so it is utterly useless. If you are able to quantize a section of a track, with the waveform visible (so that you can identify the start and end points), pleeeeeeaze share the steps...you will be the first.
I guess that would be one of the limitations of the software. It does suck, but then, the habit of comping multiple takes is still a tried and true classic since before modern DAWs came about.
i would politely suggest that time stretching the entire waveform as a copy, and then editing the copy or the original is much more useful than being able to stretch and edit individual sections because u are forced to identify the point at which u wish to begin an edit AGAINST a copy or an original. i see this as a plus and not a minus
@@sonquatsch8585 Quantization is simple for computer generated music, but few are able to efficiently tighten a live recording of a musician whose timing is a little too loose. I tried several DAWs, and found Traktion's Waveform superior to Ardour, especially the warp feature. Reaper was even more disappointing than Ardour. But Ableton's ability to quickly correct random audio drift won me over.
AUR made it easy to compile myself for free. If I end up liking it enough to use it more than a couple times, I'll send a donation their way. Thanks for the video!
JACK is great as a software audio system. Rosegarden is an interesting DAW. I've not tried it but I like how it has classical music notation as a form of MIDI input. I reckon it would be worth trying out.
Subscribed! I am a newbie when it comes to Linux so this is super helpful and i dint even know about ARDOUR i was regretting my decision thinking I was doomed because I cant use FL studio or Ableton or so i thought I couldn't but know I can do everything for free? Awesome.
@@ArkforestMusic yes but my knowledge is literally close to 0 😂 learning little by little I got HP Omen 15 and decided I wanted to be free from windows fucking bs random 100% ram usage here and there computer slowly dying I couldn't take it no more. Installed a fresh 1 tb Samsung evo ssd with pop OS. Best decision I have ever made.
My switch from window logic platinum to mxlinux + ardour6 + usb to 4x4 midi box + maudios mk3 61 + korg c-30 88 + three external sound modules was completed earlier this morning. Like anything and everything once you've done it, it seems simple. 3 days ago I would have slapped the shit out of anyone telling me that. I've loved my Logic PLatinum, the last windows version before selling out to Mac. Ardour6 seems to have everything I needed to replace it. And the first time I didn't have to pay big bucks. Now all of my pc's are mxlinux.
I had Ardour previously and it was ok. I now have LMMS which is also FOSS and which I'm pretty sure supports LV2. It bills itself as being comparable to or being a Linux alternative to FL. I don't think that I was aware of all of its plugins. I may yet again DL Ardour ( when I get more proficient with DAWs ). We'll see.
I got all the plugins from the arch repos under the pro-audio package Except Odin2 and Vitalium, I got those form the AUR. I think they should be available in your distro repos.
@@William_sJazzLoft I'm not exactly sure how to emulate a Fender Rhodes. I would have thought perhaps buying a real Fender Rhodes and recording it through a line or mic would have been also a good alternative.
@@ArkforestMusic my Casio WK-200 workstation comes close. And yet there are some soft synth plugins that bear a striking resemblance to the real thing. They're tough to find but they exist. They may be part of a library that comes installed with a DAW.
Hey, thanks for the video! One question, if you will. Why do people even bother to choose? Like, I have Ableton and on PC, FL studios on Android phone. And garageband on iMac (favorite for on the go rn). I have koala sampler as well as other synth apps and things. I am aware of open source, but why do we seem to collectively seem to think we have to be monogomas to one daw when different ones have different functions? I think GarageBand works near flawlessly for getting the basic progressions and beats down. Koala makes things weird and loose. Ableton is a powerhouse with my push 2, but honestly, pretty underwhelming on the less live aspects and makes itself less approachable for casual recording. I mostly just use for mastering and want to learn to use it for live performances. All 3 of these synergize well for me personally. But also just curious what's out there. Starting a harem of daws I suppose.
Congrats on your new faith journey. Amen. I really like your song new faith. Also I really like ardour, I’m still waiting for better plugins for Linux for mixing. But it’s getting really close lol
Instrument sources? If you mean virtual instruments, I recommend Vitalium, Odin2, ZynaddsubFX and Surge XT for synths. For samplers, I recommend LSP Multisampler, as part of the LSP suite. For soundfonts, I tend to use General MIDI Synth, but if you don't have access to that, using Sfizz or Calf Fluidsynth to load soundfonts will do.
Haha, that song is mastered really loud. I don't do that anymore, and I now drop the music by 18 decibels for videos where I talk in front of a camera to you.
As a Gentoo user im loving this program, no problem since by default I'm compiling from the sauce. No intuitive interface? Please i am home. And thank you for the sampler suggestion!
Definitely. Technology is the way of the future, especially open source technology. Charge a paid option for those who don't want to pay with their time instead.
I am a guitarist (mostly metal inspired by 16-bit soundtracks). I currently use freeware amp sims for my guitar amp needs for recording/tracking (currently an FL Studio user). Are there any LV2 plugins that can provide adequate guitar amp sims?
Ez I use guitarix plugins to do the trick. They have DS1 and MXR pedal emulators, for example, and cab emulators for Marshall heads and the likes of that. Rakarrack is potentially another option but I believe that works better as a live effect rather than with a daw, so i would recommend guitarix. Be prepared to automate mutes, though. Some plugins emit a constant hum when nothing is playing.
Hi when starting Ardour, it makes me choose input and out put device. I use a separate mic and a separate headset but Arour only lets me choose ONE and cancels the other. How do I fix this? Thanks in Advance
That seems strange. I think both can be chosen separately, even if they're plugged into your computer's 3.5mm jacks rather than a separate interface. Unless you use a microphone that doubles as an interface, I think your problem shouldn't be too big.
It's also packaged in the standard repos for many distros, and getting a distro tailored package would be better for your distro than a universal flatpak, otherwise if your distro doesn't have one, either use flatpak or an AUR equivalent or git clone the source and compile from scratch.
Fantastic video! I just started using Ardour. If you ever get the time, pretty pleaseeee do make some tutorials on Ardour as the video resources on it are a tiny bit lacking for beginners IMHO. Thanks again for recommnding this fantastic software! Great video.
I'm switching from Reason studios to Ardour. Fed up with their robbery with every upgrade and I want to get rid of my dual boot (I only used my Windows boot for Reason).
@@ArkforestMusic Often I just change my equalizer settings and then I think to myself that it sounded better before. Now an undo function would be very useful, because otherwise I always have to remember the settings before I change something. An arrow e.g. to the left and to the right would be already enough.
Coming from Ableton & some other higher end DAW's, Ardour is a huge downgrade. Unfortunately, all the DAW's i use don't run native on Linux. Running them in wine or what have you is fine until you start getting into 20+ tracks, then they start having issues. Then there's hardware & plugin compatibility issues, authentication issues, list goes on. Music is the single activity that I keep a windows loaded drive around for. These free and open source programs just don't hold a candle to the higher end softwares unfortunately.
Are you talking about a physical audio interface or mixer or are you talking about patchbay software? I currently use a Scarlett 2i2, but I used a Presonus USB interface when I made this video.
You can make vst work on arm, the issue is no one is doing that. And also if you want to develop plugin frameworks and hosts fot vst2 you have to use a terribly cumbersome reverse engeeniering of it's spec called fst. On the other hand, lv2's reference implementations are an underdocumented pain in the ass to work with as of right now, but the spec is very powerful.
I consider using Ardour when my new workstation is set up. Does it work with commercial VST as well? I would like to use free and commercial plugins as well
@@jasonfanclub4267 I have used native instruments plugins when I still used Windows. However, I have not had luck being able to get them to work through Linux, as native instruments restricts their installation to a control centre type software that is exclusive to Windows and possibly mac, and I've had difficulty trying to install those plugins on Linux and make them work. If you're using them on Windows or mac, they should work fine.
@@jasonfanclub4267 I'm not really counting on that happening. It's how they centralise their customers to make their money. There are a lot of amazing sounding free software synths and soundfonts that you don't have to sell your kidney for.
Yes, I would. Personally, it's because Ardour integrates LV2 plugins easier than Reaper does. Objectively, it's because it's simpler to use and smaller, more obscure features of the software are quicker to access. I have a friend who uses Reaper to record his drumming and so I know a little bit about Reaper through him.
I have experienced many crashes with Ardour's Midi and you can check Unfa's video about necessary improvements. On the other hand, Ardour looks much better and routing is much more intuitive. I would say, Ardour is fine for recording, Reaper is better if Midi is involved.
What interface do you use? I currently use a Scarlett 2i2 and it works out of the box for me. In the video, I was using a Presonus Audiobox. I do know that for the distro I was using, to make Jack work, one of the overlooked crucial packages you need to install is libffado along with jack, alsa, pulseaudio, and the respective packages that connect each of those three with each other. For an interface to work with mostly Jack, I used Cadence from the KXStudio repos rather than qjackctl, though you can try qjackctl too. A lot of this would be in the Arch Linux wikis, or the wiki or manual of your respective DAW. This advice worked for Obarun Linux, which I was using at the time.
I don't know about putting waveforms on a piano roll, but if you record with a MIDI instrument of some sort, that can definitely be edited in the piano roll.
I think you can learn about how the different instrument and effect plugins work. I think some good soft synths to learn are Odin2, ZynaddsubFX, Vitalium, Helm, etc. As for EQs and compressors and other things, I recommend LSP Parametric EQ, LSP Compressor, and Dragonfly Hall Reverb. Those plugins should take care of most things. Though feel free to explore plugins I haven't mentioned.
@@ArkforestMusic indeed ZynAddSubFx came installed with LMMS ( I understand form his latest videos that unfa has eliminated LMMS from his workflow ) I think that he's now using Ardour in conjunction with ZynAddSubFx
@@ArkforestMusic yeah I'd love to add mpe midi along with adding mpe to lv2 my roli controller works with bitwig on Linux with mpe but I'd rather support ardour rather than bitwig
Periodic silences after 10 minutes unless you pay.. I was interested in Ardour, but that is certainly one way to turn people away from a 'free' software.. I'll just stick to reaper's and it's 3 second delay at startup instead :) Sure I could try to compile it myself but since reaper is awesome and just works, theres not much motivation to bother with it.
I haven't explored yoshimi. To me, it looks like an obvious fork of Zynaddsubfx with the old skin, and the possible differences between it and zyn plus it's turbulent history as a fork mean I would be more likely to use zyn
I'm looking to switch to Ardour from the hopelessly convoluted and almost mind-numbing complicated REAPER... I'm just using an old dell laptop with windows 10 -Do you foresee any problems with this?? Have heard of certain windows users sharing some specific problems -It even talks about it on the Ardour website. BUT -The user experience within Ardour reminds me distinctly of Audacity, which I really LOVE...
I am here for the exact reasons, so I would love to know your experience, I am struggling to pull myself away from cubase 5 on vista :) But I need a Linux solution for music now.
@@julianbrusser i have had experience with Cakewalk, Reaper, Studio One, Auacity, Ardour, Waveform and maybe one or two more... I can say FOR CERTAIN that Ardour and Waveforem are the two best of them by a long shot. The only thing that Reaper is really good for is multi-tracking -I can track 14 mics simultaneously and do take after take without ever crashing -The program is SOLID. But, for mixing and editing Reaper is a nightmare... My 2 cents. Waveform has EXTREMELY simple and intuitive auxing and bussing. So simple that they may have just made me a convert. It's also super simple to hook up outboard gear with Waveform, too, from what I've seen... The mix window in Ardour is a work of art. Beautiful... I'm going to be spending the next several days with the two programs and seeing which one I like more...
@boobo3763 audio recording is a first-class citizen in Ardour, so I'd imagine you'd like Ardour a lot. You also mention using Windows as well. I'd like to know how you got Ardour working on Windows if you didn't pay for the precompiled binary (unless you did lol)
@@ArkforestMusic I'm not using Ardour at all these days. I did like it when I tried it, but I hit a stumbling block along the way and then never picked it back up. I do all my tracking and *simple mixing tasks in Reaper (because it's so stable - not because I like it). All pre-production and scratch tracking etc. is done in Audacity. I also use Waveform here and there and intend to do some more serious editing work with it. Waveform is getting better and better...
Not anymore, I switched to MX Linux. I may come back to the Arch distro family if the Debian distro family doesn't work out, however. Life is only so transient.
the only reason trying to sell us on something would be bad is if it's taking money out of our pockets 🤷 Linux, Ardour, and FOSS usually don't, and when they do it's usually going to a developer that worked hard on what we're using rather than some faceless corporation that didn't pay the developers nearly enough! so sell away 😄 deinfluencers are always way cooler than influencers
I went from FL to Reaper because it was easier to work with audio. Now I use both for different purposes. I wonder if Ardour has anything to offer between the wo.
It offers a way to be able to produce music without going through the proprietary software vendor lock in that you would get with Windows and most proprietary DAWs. Ardour is very compatible with LV2 plugins, which are like VST plugins, but free and open source. Basically, it offers a more expansive production ecosystem.
@@ArkforestMusic Gotcha. I hope Reaper will get LV2 support at some point. I'm sure they will, since I think the Linux version of their DAW is official since recently.
@@EzyoMusic What do you mean by "LV2 support"? The Linux version of Reaper already uses LV2 plugins. The original UI doesn't show for some but you have access to all parameters.
ardour not having a separate midi editor is what makes it awful. also fl being written in delphi doesnt make it slower...... thats determined by the dev and how they optimize their code,code can be written badly in either language. ardour is awful at edm music with its poor implementation of its "piano roll" if you can call that and its poor handling of midi.
I think you would do better with this video if you put the open source part at the end. Most people simply are not interested and I say that as a fellow open source enthusiast who is 100% onboard with your point. People do like free though, so that part is worth keeping up front. Good video, thanks for sharing and I will look into your plugin recommendations.
I may have forgotten to make a distinction between the two meanings of "free" in English. There's free as in freedom And there's free as in free beer. Free and Open Source software is always free under the first definition. The second definition may not always be true if payment is required to obtain a precompiled binary.
Software being written in C++ does not automatically make it faster than other software. By far, the most important factor in software performance is lowering CPI, increasing parallel instructions by carefully designing code to execute instructions in parallel, and making careful decisions memory and data design. None of those have anything to do with C++.
@@richardpress9551 perhaps maybe it can. I've tried it once. I personally recommend free and open source programs (emphasis on open source) because they can be developed more flexibly to better accommodate what the end users want.
YOu say it's better than pro logic anc cubase! Have you tried these for any length of time? I agree that it would be better than the comic book that is FL Studio and Ableton. But not Cubase. Cubase's extensive mixer and control room is 2nd to none. Years and years of development is behind cubase whihc can't be said for Ardour. To say a Ardour is better than Cubase or Pro logic is a very inexperienced thing to say and it would seem as though you've really not tried Cubase to any great level or found it a bit above you head.
Realistically all of the DAWs do the same things slightly differently. I wouldn't mind trying Cubase one day, but Steinberg is not likely to open source it. Ardour probably has the same features it advertises with its marketing jargon anyways, like MPE and other stuff. Plus it's free and open source. At the very least, I would say Cubase is better than Logic Pro, since Logic Pro requires certain external hardware to function properly.
@@ArkforestMusic I've been using logic Pro since it was available on window's and it's was very advanced back then and it is still now it is cheap and we don't mind paying it, cubase is okay for window's through you will never get something that works brilliantly and is integrated with the hardware level no troubleshooting required, linux is a joke and the latency is Horrible, I don't use something because it's opensource and free I will use it because it's good, I will never use linux for audio production because it's inefficient and a low quality, as a film composer I would stick to logic and Nuendo. I don't understand why everything needs to be opensource, we make money off it and we are ready to pay for something that's simple to setup and work
@@ArkforestMusic like I said it's a joke and you can in noway compare it to logic or cubase, there is latency on it because it's not as optimised as window's or mac
Well, if spending like $ 500 for a DAW you really love is an issue, then you might be in the wrong business. Most pro DAWs will last you at least 5 years with regular free updates for the version you bought. That’s $ 100 per year. That’s 0.28 cents a day. It’s 0.03 cents an hour for 8 hours a day. It’s 1/4 the price of your daily espresso coffee. How about buying a bit cheaper coffee ? That would make your DAW « free » at the end of the day….? And producers and composers aren’t all computer geeks. The vast majority need to actually make music and just need an efficient complete Tool easy to use. Pro DAWs have way enough flexibility and user adjustable features to please hard working musicians. So the « free » argument is not an issue for the pros out there. The personal preference is.
i think you're missing the point, the author clearly likes open source software, otherwise known as "free" software, free as in freedom, not cost. Ardour actually costs money but you can build it for free, plus, you can study the code, edit the code, patch it yourself, extend it yourself, if you're so inclined, etc. just like anyone has tastes for music, food, partners, etc. some people like 'free' software (open source) for various reasons, often for idealistic/philosophical reasons.
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2:27 This is my absolute favourite moment. That split-second shade for Delphi. Just lovely.
I have worked with Delphi a lot. I can't decipher that look.
Yes
Today started using Ardour! Getting into it and creating music is a challenge. But recording works already. So my next drum covers will be recorded with Ardour!!! Keep on your work!
Thank you!
The MIDI on ardour is somewhat unorthodox to work with, but you'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Ardour has the most annoying and fiddly interface I have ever seen in a DAW. The general lack of feedback when anything isn't done the way Ardour wants it, makes it incredibly hard to actually do it the specific way that's needed. Utterly counter intuitive. It sucks.
I literally couldn't agree more. Im so glad to see I'm not the only person who thinks this. I was beginning to feel spoiled lol
That’s a perspective.
I hate the piano roll being in the track. It's such a dumb design choice to have to resize the track every time I wanna edit midi, which is all the time. I'm still gonna learn Ardour because I want to commit to a totally open source workflow and it's pretty much the only working option unless Zrythm improves a lot.
I was huge on Ableton Live about 10yrs ago... This is refreshing to see.
I will admit Ableton Live would be a nice distro to use, especially for certain kinds of music, but I really don't like how it is designed as "software as a service", which means it's useless if you can't maintain your subscription.
"IF you can figure it out"...."though with SOME difficulty". gasp i'm sold....
lol
those darn micro soft devs always making things difficult to do
I got a secondary computer with Linux installed so having a DAW that has the same interface in both Windows and Linux is a plus for me. (read as: someone who wants to make a smooth transition to Linux only). 😁
Delphi is comparable with C++ for performance... Can be quicker for certain types of operations.
Really though it's down to your CPU how good the performance is, and your ASIO driver has to be set correctly
I don't think Ardour is simple at all, and some of its features are very limited: for instance, it cannot be used to time-stretch individual sections of a waveform (you must edit the entire track or none!). And if a section of a waveform can be quantized, nobody to date has been able to share steps that work. The manual typically focuses on the 'what' and not the 'how', so it is utterly useless.
If you are able to quantize a section of a track, with the waveform visible (so that you can identify the start and end points), pleeeeeeaze share the steps...you will be the first.
I guess that would be one of the limitations of the software. It does suck, but then, the habit of comping multiple takes is still a tried and true classic since before modern DAWs came about.
@@ArkforestMusic Have you tried Tracktion's Waveform? It is rich in features, free and more logically designed.
@@TheBinaryWolf I have, but I still stick with Ardour. I don't like the vendor lock in of other proprietary DAWs. It's not open source either.
i would politely suggest that time stretching the entire waveform as a copy, and then editing the copy or the original is much more useful than being able to stretch and edit individual sections because u are forced to identify the point at which u wish to begin an edit AGAINST a copy or an original. i see this as a plus and not a minus
@@sonquatsch8585 Quantization is simple for computer generated music, but few are able to efficiently tighten a live recording of a musician whose timing is a little too loose.
I tried several DAWs, and found Traktion's Waveform superior to Ardour, especially the warp feature. Reaper was even more disappointing than Ardour. But Ableton's ability to quickly correct random audio drift won me over.
AUR made it easy to compile myself for free. If I end up liking it enough to use it more than a couple times, I'll send a donation their way. Thanks for the video!
What is the best plugin you have used in Ardour for mastering? Like your favorite EQ, compressor, etc.
"sure its difficult i never said it was easy" the title: its very simple
I am using opensuse by default, a linux distro, how about jack and rosegarden and alike?
JACK is great as a software audio system. Rosegarden is an interesting DAW. I've not tried it but I like how it has classical music notation as a form of MIDI input. I reckon it would be worth trying out.
Great video, completely agree!
Thank you very much!
Subscribed! I am a newbie when it comes to Linux so this is super helpful and i dint even know about ARDOUR i was regretting my decision thinking I was doomed because I cant use FL studio or Ableton or so i thought I couldn't but know I can do everything for free? Awesome.
Sweet! Are you a Linux user too?
@@ArkforestMusic yes but my knowledge is literally close to 0 😂 learning little by little I got HP Omen 15 and decided I wanted to be free from windows fucking bs random 100% ram usage here and there computer slowly dying I couldn't take it no more. Installed a fresh 1 tb Samsung evo ssd with pop OS. Best decision I have ever made.
Very nice video. Helped out a lot!
Cheers brah btw install arch
My switch from window logic platinum to mxlinux + ardour6 + usb to 4x4 midi box + maudios mk3 61 + korg c-30 88 + three external sound modules was completed earlier this morning.
Like anything and everything once you've done it, it seems simple.
3 days ago I would have slapped the shit out of anyone telling me that.
I've loved my Logic PLatinum, the last windows version before selling out to Mac.
Ardour6 seems to have everything I needed to replace it. And the first time I didn't have to pay big bucks.
Now all of my pc's are mxlinux.
Ironically I use mx Linux now too. In the video I was using an arch derivative, but I've since switched. Guess we're distro buddies now lol
Hi ! I tried several times but I coudn't download Ardour for free. Could you please help me?
Best regards from South of France 😊
I had Ardour previously and it was ok. I now have LMMS which is also FOSS and which I'm pretty sure supports LV2. It bills itself as being comparable to or being a Linux alternative to FL. I don't think that I was aware of all of its plugins. I may yet again DL Ardour ( when I get more proficient with DAWs ). We'll see.
I got all the plugins from the arch repos under the pro-audio package
Except Odin2 and Vitalium, I got those form the AUR. I think they should be available in your distro repos.
@@ArkforestMusic that's good to know. I'm constantly in search of an accurate Fender-Rhodes emulation
@@William_sJazzLoft I'm not exactly sure how to emulate a Fender Rhodes. I would have thought perhaps buying a real Fender Rhodes and recording it through a line or mic would have been also a good alternative.
@@ArkforestMusic my Casio WK-200 workstation comes close. And yet there are some soft synth plugins that bear a striking resemblance to the real thing. They're tough to find but they exist. They may be part of a library that comes installed with a DAW.
@@William_sJazzLoft Ah, the general midi soundfont, I think that may be. I use the default piano in it all the time.
bro off topic but your voice is awesome man, so calming
Thanks bro, I should train it more
Hey, thanks for the video! One question, if you will. Why do people even bother to choose? Like, I have Ableton and on PC, FL studios on Android phone. And garageband on iMac (favorite for on the go rn).
I have koala sampler as well as other synth apps and things. I am aware of open source, but why do we seem to collectively seem to think we have to be monogomas to one daw when different ones have different functions?
I think GarageBand works near flawlessly for getting the basic progressions and beats down. Koala makes things weird and loose. Ableton is a powerhouse with my push 2, but honestly, pretty underwhelming on the less live aspects and makes itself less approachable for casual recording. I mostly just use for mastering and want to learn to use it for live performances.
All 3 of these synergize well for me personally. But also just curious what's out there. Starting a harem of daws I suppose.
I love the enthusiasm haha, great video!! I'll definitely check it out 😊
Thank you! Definitely do.
Congrats on your new faith journey. Amen. I really like your song new faith.
Also I really like ardour, I’m still waiting for better plugins for Linux for mixing. But it’s getting really close lol
Thank you! As for better plugins, what kind of plugins are you talking about that could be better?
@@ArkforestMusic well I like the plugins but I like the auto make up gain feature
So which Linux did you use?
If I download Ardour from my software manager, is it a full version?
your performance is fantastic.
Thanks bro
Could you please write out the instrument sources that you found to be good and work on Linux with Ardour?
Instrument sources?
If you mean virtual instruments, I recommend Vitalium, Odin2, ZynaddsubFX and Surge XT for synths.
For samplers, I recommend LSP Multisampler, as part of the LSP suite.
For soundfonts, I tend to use General MIDI Synth, but if you don't have access to that, using Sfizz or Calf Fluidsynth to load soundfonts will do.
I've been using ardour since version 0.5
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Your intro volume blew me up!
Haha, that song is mastered really loud. I don't do that anymore, and I now drop the music by 18 decibels for videos where I talk in front of a camera to you.
As a Gentoo user im loving this program, no problem since by default I'm compiling from the sauce. No intuitive interface? Please i am home. And thank you for the sampler suggestion!
It would seem like developing plug_ins is still a wide open opportunity for the enterprising individual. What do you think?
Definitely. Technology is the way of the future, especially open source technology. Charge a paid option for those who don't want to pay with their time instead.
I am a guitarist (mostly metal inspired by 16-bit soundtracks). I currently use freeware amp sims for my guitar amp needs for recording/tracking (currently an FL Studio user). Are there any LV2 plugins that can provide adequate guitar amp sims?
Ez
I use guitarix plugins to do the trick. They have DS1 and MXR pedal emulators, for example, and cab emulators for Marshall heads and the likes of that. Rakarrack is potentially another option but I believe that works better as a live effect rather than with a daw, so i would recommend guitarix. Be prepared to automate mutes, though. Some plugins emit a constant hum when nothing is playing.
@@ArkforestMusic Wow... swift reply and thank you.
I'll be looking into those!
@@brianbergmusic5288 sometimes it's swift, sometimes it's not.
Hi when starting Ardour, it makes me choose input and out put device. I use a separate mic and a separate headset but Arour only lets me choose ONE and cancels the other. How do I fix this? Thanks in Advance
That seems strange. I think both can be chosen separately, even if they're plugged into your computer's 3.5mm jacks rather than a separate interface. Unless you use a microphone that doubles as an interface, I think your problem shouldn't be too big.
can i use it with adobe premier or lightworks?
Ardour is packaged in a flatpak so ALL distros can have it fairly easily !
It's also packaged in the standard repos for many distros, and getting a distro tailored package would be better for your distro than a universal flatpak, otherwise if your distro doesn't have one, either use flatpak or an AUR equivalent or git clone the source and compile from scratch.
Main reason for me: It runs natively on Linux, instead of bashing my head against Proton with FL and Windows VSTs
Fantastic video! I just started using Ardour. If you ever get the time, pretty pleaseeee do make some tutorials on Ardour as the video resources on it are a tiny bit lacking for beginners IMHO.
Thanks again for recommnding this fantastic software! Great video.
Zrythm definitely looks like it could be an amazing Ableton & Bitwig replacement.
It really does.
@@ArkforestMusic Did you see the new recording way in FL? its free with the new update so check it out.
@@alfredolopeznieto9444 no I have not. I haven't used FL Studio for a long time at this point.
@@ArkforestMusic Give it a try they work on t he recording is so much better.
@@alfredolopeznieto9444 hmm, maybe
Nice, fun and cool!!
Subbed. Linux audio FTW...SuperCollider is King though.
What is SuperCollider?
@Richard Riley epic, I take it it has some similarities to pure data?
I can use Vital? I can record my own instruments/sounds? Its FOSS? I'm sold
You can also use Vitalium, which is Vital but free and open source. Based Tytel strikes again.
I'm switching from Reason studios to Ardour. Fed up with their robbery with every upgrade and I want to get rid of my dual boot (I only used my Windows boot for Reason).
I like Ardour very much. But i miss the undo/redo feature in plugins. Some VST's have that. But LV2 plugins don't have this undo/redo feature...
I was never aware about that feature in plugins, to be honest. I wonder how much it would change sound design.
@@ArkforestMusic Often I just change my equalizer settings and then I think to myself that it sounded better before. Now an undo function would be very useful, because otherwise I always have to remember the settings before I change something. An arrow e.g. to the left and to the right would be already enough.
@@arnoldmitterer9372 ardour has a snapshot feature which allows you to save snapshots of a project at any point in time you can revisit.
Coming from Ableton & some other higher end DAW's, Ardour is a huge downgrade. Unfortunately, all the DAW's i use don't run native on Linux.
Running them in wine or what have you is fine until you start getting into 20+ tracks, then they start having issues. Then there's hardware & plugin compatibility issues, authentication issues, list goes on.
Music is the single activity that I keep a windows loaded drive around for.
These free and open source programs just don't hold a candle to the higher end softwares unfortunately.
Thanks. I'm sick of lmms lack of recording audio so I'm trying to find a free alternative.
LMMS was designed to be a midi DAW while Ardour was designed to be a recording DAW. Ardour evolved first.
Do you use Linux? If so then ardour is free and ez to install
@@ArkforestMusic I'm on windows
@@Furiac. ah, that could be a problem. You can pay 1 dollar for one version, or you can pay 45 dollars for that plus updates
@@ArkforestMusic okay thanks for the info!
Delphi is a compiled language meaning that theirs no reason except bad code or a badly made compiler that it would be slower than C++
I guess time will tell if FL Studio is using bad code. We can't see it, since it's not open source.
Did you make the music where it shows your name at the beginning using ardour?
Yes, I did. That track is called "New Faith". Check it out!
This is aweasome.
Yes it is. I think you have an interesting name.
@@ArkforestMusic Thank you so much :)
@@megaoyi1Wins You're welcome. ;)
I love FL Studio but this is the only software that keeps me using Windows. But I'm switching to linux right now!
I used to be an FL studio user. Now I use Ardour lol
Quality video. thanks
You're welcome ;)
Hey, can you share your ardour theme? I need a new one
Caineville. It's one of the standard ones, I believe.
Very well done… thanks for sharing….
You're welcome! I hope you found it informative.
Thank you, I use Reaper since a few years… but this also looks very interesting
@@gardengit ardour is an interesting DAW.
What would you use for a breakout box ? When multi-tracking ?
Are you talking about a physical audio interface or mixer or are you talking about patchbay software? I currently use a Scarlett 2i2, but I used a Presonus USB interface when I made this video.
Lv2 works on arm and could even work on browsers via wasm its much better than vst
It really is.
You can make vst work on arm, the issue is no one is doing that. And also if you want to develop plugin frameworks and hosts fot vst2 you have to use a terribly cumbersome reverse engeeniering of it's spec called fst. On the other hand, lv2's reference implementations are an underdocumented pain in the ass to work with as of right now, but the spec is very powerful.
@@ovi1326 you're right and you can use reaper on arm to load in arm based vst
I consider using Ardour when my new workstation is set up. Does it work with commercial VST as well? I would like to use free and commercial plugins as well
It does. I currently use airwindows plugins, which are only available as vst plugins.
@@ArkforestMusic cool also any experience with Native Instruments and Waves Plugins?
@@jasonfanclub4267 I have used native instruments plugins when I still used Windows. However, I have not had luck being able to get them to work through Linux, as native instruments restricts their installation to a control centre type software that is exclusive to Windows and possibly mac, and I've had difficulty trying to install those plugins on Linux and make them work.
If you're using them on Windows or mac, they should work fine.
@@ArkforestMusic dayum These Software starters are trash. Adobe has the same problem. I hope they will get rid of this on the future agaon
@@jasonfanclub4267 I'm not really counting on that happening. It's how they centralise their customers to make their money. There are a lot of amazing sounding free software synths and soundfonts that you don't have to sell your kidney for.
Would you recommend Arduor over Reaper? In that case, why?
Yes, I would. Personally, it's because Ardour integrates LV2 plugins easier than Reaper does. Objectively, it's because it's simpler to use and smaller, more obscure features of the software are quicker to access. I have a friend who uses Reaper to record his drumming and so I know a little bit about Reaper through him.
I have experienced many crashes with Ardour's Midi and you can check Unfa's video about necessary improvements. On the other hand, Ardour looks much better and routing is much more intuitive. I would say, Ardour is fine for recording, Reaper is better if Midi is involved.
Just found your channel. Grest stuff man!
how do we get our hardware to work with Linux ? most my cards do not work
What interface do you use? I currently use a Scarlett 2i2 and it works out of the box for me. In the video, I was using a Presonus Audiobox. I do know that for the distro I was using, to make Jack work, one of the overlooked crucial packages you need to install is libffado along with jack, alsa, pulseaudio, and the respective packages that connect each of those three with each other. For an interface to work with mostly Jack, I used Cadence from the KXStudio repos rather than qjackctl, though you can try qjackctl too. A lot of this would be in the Arch Linux wikis, or the wiki or manual of your respective DAW. This advice worked for Obarun Linux, which I was using at the time.
Anybody got a quick tutorial that shows how to hook up outboard gear with this thing? Thnx
can you record live vs instrument in ardour that can be edited in piano roll later?
I don't know about putting waveforms on a piano roll, but if you record with a MIDI instrument of some sort, that can definitely be edited in the piano roll.
Great expose. While I wait on an audio interface, what are some practical things that I can accomplish with Ardour?
I think you can learn about how the different instrument and effect plugins work. I think some good soft synths to learn are Odin2, ZynaddsubFX, Vitalium, Helm, etc.
As for EQs and compressors and other things, I recommend LSP Parametric EQ, LSP Compressor, and Dragonfly Hall Reverb. Those plugins should take care of most things.
Though feel free to explore plugins I haven't mentioned.
@@ArkforestMusic indeed ZynAddSubFx came installed with LMMS ( I understand form his latest videos that unfa has eliminated LMMS from his workflow ) I think that he's now using Ardour in conjunction with ZynAddSubFx
@@WillsJazzLoft that is true. One of the biggest reasons is that LMMS doesn't record audio. He also does experiment with other synths too.
Very nice and informative presentation.
Thank you!
i wanna a "future fu nk,French house"tutorial with Ardour...
If you already know how to make future funk and French house, then making it in Ardour should be pretty easy.
can you use ardour in real time like ableton
Yep. You can also export and analyse it faster than real time, too.
I’m making the switch from studio one on Linux to full on Linux with ardout and lmms
Sweet! Which Linux distro do you use?
@@ArkforestMusic Currently using Arch with Xmonad!
@@afonsorafael2728 ok based
why your dock so big?
Thank you lol
Yes it is
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What is the use of knowing or downloading the source code for a musician? Why one must compile the software. All rubbish talk. Regards.
Yes
If it's missing a feature you want its possible to volunteer a feature into existence
That is true! Right now I really want to have better MIDI snapping.
@@ArkforestMusic yeah I'd love to add mpe midi along with adding mpe to lv2 my roli controller works with bitwig on Linux with mpe but I'd rather support ardour rather than bitwig
@@gnumusic-brian MPE would be really nice to have.
WYSIWYG is not from web design. It is from word processors from the the 1980s, where the document on-screen looks like the final print out.
I'm lost as to whether this satire or not.
Periodic silences after 10 minutes unless you pay.. I was interested in Ardour, but that is certainly one way to turn people away from a 'free' software.. I'll just stick to reaper's and it's 3 second delay at startup instead :)
Sure I could try to compile it myself but since reaper is awesome and just works, theres not much motivation to bother with it.
Yoshimi is also a top tier synth.
I haven't explored yoshimi. To me, it looks like an obvious fork of Zynaddsubfx with the old skin, and the possible differences between it and zyn plus it's turbulent history as a fork mean I would be more likely to use zyn
great video....
I'm looking to switch to Ardour from the hopelessly convoluted and almost mind-numbing complicated REAPER... I'm just using an old dell laptop with windows 10 -Do you foresee any problems with this?? Have heard of certain windows users sharing some specific problems -It even talks about it on the Ardour website. BUT -The user experience within Ardour reminds me distinctly of Audacity, which I really LOVE...
I am here for the exact reasons, so I would love to know your experience, I am struggling to pull myself away from cubase 5 on vista :) But I need a Linux solution for music now.
@@julianbrusser i have had experience with Cakewalk, Reaper, Studio One, Auacity, Ardour, Waveform and maybe one or two more... I can say FOR CERTAIN that Ardour and Waveforem are the two best of them by a long shot. The only thing that Reaper is really good for is multi-tracking -I can track 14 mics simultaneously and do take after take without ever crashing -The program is SOLID. But, for mixing and editing Reaper is a nightmare... My 2 cents. Waveform has EXTREMELY simple and intuitive auxing and bussing. So simple that they may have just made me a convert. It's also super simple to hook up outboard gear with Waveform, too, from what I've seen... The mix window in Ardour is a work of art. Beautiful... I'm going to be spending the next several days with the two programs and seeing which one I like more...
@julianbrusser Ardour just works. You can install it from pretty much any Linux repo.
@boobo3763 audio recording is a first-class citizen in Ardour, so I'd imagine you'd like Ardour a lot.
You also mention using Windows as well. I'd like to know how you got Ardour working on Windows if you didn't pay for the precompiled binary (unless you did lol)
@@ArkforestMusic I'm not using Ardour at all these days. I did like it when I tried it, but I hit a stumbling block along the way and then never picked it back up. I do all my tracking and *simple mixing tasks in Reaper (because it's so stable - not because I like it). All pre-production and scratch tracking etc. is done in Audacity. I also use Waveform here and there and intend to do some more serious editing work with it. Waveform is getting better and better...
He uses Arch by the way.
Not anymore, I switched to MX Linux. I may come back to the Arch distro family if the Debian distro family doesn't work out, however. Life is only so transient.
the only reason trying to sell us on something would be bad is if it's taking money out of our pockets 🤷 Linux, Ardour, and FOSS usually don't, and when they do it's usually going to a developer that worked hard on what we're using rather than some faceless corporation that didn't pay the developers nearly enough! so sell away 😄 deinfluencers are always way cooler than influencers
@~3:40: "You can't change this. The source code is private.". Why is this a positive thing? You just flattered the open source philosophy....
It's not lol
I went from FL to Reaper because it was easier to work with audio. Now I use both for different purposes. I wonder if Ardour has anything to offer between the wo.
It offers a way to be able to produce music without going through the proprietary software vendor lock in that you would get with Windows and most proprietary DAWs. Ardour is very compatible with LV2 plugins, which are like VST plugins, but free and open source. Basically, it offers a more expansive production ecosystem.
@@ArkforestMusic Gotcha. I hope Reaper will get LV2 support at some point. I'm sure they will, since I think the Linux version of their DAW is official since recently.
@@EzyoMusic What do you mean by "LV2 support"? The Linux version of Reaper already uses LV2 plugins. The original UI doesn't show for some but you have access to all parameters.
@@benoittissier58 Thanks, that's good to know.
ardour not having a separate midi editor is what makes it awful. also fl being written in delphi doesnt make it slower...... thats determined by the dev and how they optimize their code,code can be written badly in either language. ardour is awful at edm music with its poor implementation of its "piano roll" if you can call that and its poor handling of midi.
Integrated midi makes working easier
is that freebsd kde?
Nah, it's Obarun KDE. I've not used BSDs before. I do think they do a lot of things good, though.
Where is the link for your new song?
ruclips.net/video/Wpxbsl7N9Lc/видео.html
@@ArkforestMusic thank youu i loved it
I think you would do better with this video if you put the open source part at the end. Most people simply are not interested and I say that as a fellow open source enthusiast who is 100% onboard with your point. People do like free though, so that part is worth keeping up front. Good video, thanks for sharing and I will look into your plugin recommendations.
That is true. I plan to make more videos about Ardour and other FOSS software for music production, among other things. Thank you for the feedback.
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But we won't want hard. Thats why we use Android. You get the app and you start messing with the synths.
What about lmms?
LMMS is known for its good MIDI capabilities but it doesn't record audio. That's where Ardour steps in.
@@ArkforestMusic oh, yeah forgot about that
It's open source, but it's not free unless you build it yourself
I may have forgotten to make a distinction between the two meanings of "free" in English.
There's free as in freedom
And there's free as in free beer.
Free and Open Source software is always free under the first definition. The second definition may not always be true if payment is required to obtain a precompiled binary.
Software being written in C++ does not automatically make it faster than other software. By far, the most important factor in software performance is lowering CPI, increasing parallel instructions by carefully designing code to execute instructions in parallel, and making careful decisions memory and data design.
None of those have anything to do with C++.
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Tracktion Waveform is a lot better than both of those and is available for Linux with free and paid versions
It ain't open source
@@ArkforestMusic True, but they do offer a free version which improves every year and I think given that it deserves more consideration.
@@richardpress9551 perhaps maybe it can. I've tried it once. I personally recommend free and open source programs (emphasis on open source) because they can be developed more flexibly to better accommodate what the end users want.
YOu say it's better than pro logic anc cubase! Have you tried these for any length of time? I agree that it would be better than the comic book that is FL Studio and Ableton. But not Cubase. Cubase's extensive mixer and control room is 2nd to none. Years and years of development is behind cubase whihc can't be said for Ardour. To say a Ardour is better than Cubase or Pro logic is a very inexperienced thing to say and it would seem as though you've really not tried Cubase to any great level or found it a bit above you head.
Realistically all of the DAWs do the same things slightly differently. I wouldn't mind trying Cubase one day, but Steinberg is not likely to open source it. Ardour probably has the same features it advertises with its marketing jargon anyways, like MPE and other stuff. Plus it's free and open source. At the very least, I would say Cubase is better than Logic Pro, since Logic Pro requires certain external hardware to function properly.
@@ArkforestMusic I've been using logic Pro since it was available on window's and it's was very advanced back then and it is still now it is cheap and we don't mind paying it, cubase is okay for window's through you will never get something that works brilliantly and is integrated with the hardware level no troubleshooting required, linux is a joke and the latency is Horrible, I don't use something because it's opensource and free I will use it because it's good, I will never use linux for audio production because it's inefficient and a low quality, as a film composer I would stick to logic and Nuendo. I don't understand why everything needs to be opensource, we make money off it and we are ready to pay for something that's simple to setup and work
@@donjave7146 I get no latency with Ardour on Linux.
@@ArkforestMusic like I said it's a joke and you can in noway compare it to logic or cubase, there is latency on it because it's not as optimised as window's or mac
@@donjave7146 there is more latency on windows with ASIO. Mac runs on inferior hardware which makes it unreliable in the long run. They're both jokes.
I tried it some years ago but I prefer Cakewalk, it's free too so you can decide better
DAW?
Digital audio workstation
Well, if spending like $ 500 for a DAW you really love is an issue, then you might be in the wrong business.
Most pro DAWs will last you at least 5 years with regular free updates for the version you bought. That’s $ 100 per year.
That’s 0.28 cents a day. It’s 0.03 cents an hour for 8 hours a day. It’s 1/4 the price of your daily espresso coffee. How about buying a bit cheaper coffee ? That would make your DAW « free » at the end of the day….?
And producers and composers aren’t all computer geeks. The vast majority need to actually make music and just need an efficient complete
Tool easy to use. Pro DAWs have way enough flexibility and user adjustable features to please hard working musicians.
So the « free » argument is not an issue for the pros out there. The personal preference is.
i think you're missing the point, the author clearly likes open source software, otherwise known as "free" software, free as in freedom, not cost. Ardour actually costs money but you can build it for free, plus, you can study the code, edit the code, patch it yourself, extend it yourself, if you're so inclined, etc.
just like anyone has tastes for music, food, partners, etc. some people like 'free' software (open source) for various reasons, often for idealistic/philosophical reasons.
@@teklife My only point is that the « free $$$ » argument is irrelevant. If he likes open sources I get it.
Saving money where it doesn't need to be spent is a good thing.
I prefer Reaper
Then enter Reaper 👍
Enter?