Not mentioning that United also had massive financial backing from outside inverstors in the early 1900s seems like a massive miss. Especially since it was basically the same thing that happened to City in 2008. History repeating itself 100 years later but to their local rivals
That description of City fans going to school really brought back some memories, I still remember the chaos on the day we finally won the league with the Aguero goal, fights all day. Good times
Let's not forget Utd went 37 years without winning any silverware 1911-1948. Maybe City fans should've unfurled their own banner to remind Utd fans of this. 😂
It was not for zero fee, we were supposed to be paid a rent from their ticket sales. They just never paid because they think they are a special case. United can talk about money and charges when they actually pay their rent.
@@awais6789 They never were when utd went bust for the second time in 1931 a local non league side with bigger support tried to take their place in the league. Manchester City foolishly voted against this and gave them kits to play in without which they wouldn`t exist. It`s ironic the rabble over at old scaffold sing "man utd will never die" as without their neighbours they would have done on numerous occasions.
Your videos are one of the reasons I have my job as a sound designer and production manager today. If you ever doubt your importance, remember that you can never ever tell how, who and even why your work will impact someone. You're really amazing. Well done.
As a Mancunian City fan, who’s been going since the 1990s, I think it was the end of the previous season, when we beat Utd 1-0 at Wembley in the FA Cup semi final. That was the first time I came away thinking we were better than them in my whole life.
I love how this guy made a whole chapter to place this rivalry as one sided. Completely ignores the significant matches like Massacre at Maine Road in 1989, The Derby that relegated United in 1974 or so. Beautiful
Just a tip: at around 13:42 in the video you described aguero’s goal as “infamous” for city and neutral supporters - it is infamous for united supporters, not the other way around Congrats on your wedding!
@@opinionatortv6457 lets be honest, it is that deep. the pettiness of humans is bottomless. to blatantly deny the truth because of a sense of misplaced pride lol football is a fickle mistress for many
I for one love oil, don't care what anyone says going from Stephan Ireland to David Silva/Kevin De Bruyne has made my last Decade rather than watching dross I'm watching dominance and frankly after numerous times gettingshit for supporting city, United fans at work have become historians that can only say 20 times 😂
Always love a good Roots of the Rivalry video. Rest In Peace Bobby Charlton, one of the great of English football and one who survived the Munich disaster in 1958
Just a few points Newton Heath the football club was formed in late 1880 not 1878. The 1878 Newton Heath was a rugby club and nothing to do with what became Manchester United. St Marks (Manchester City) was the first club in Manchester to play association rules football. Trophies throughout their history is a bit of a stretch City had just missed out on the double in 1904 while utd were still floundering in the second tier. Manchester City were accused of paying bonus payments to players shortly after with players being banned from playing for the club. This led to utd snapping up a number of these players and building their team around them which is where their first 3 trophies came from the last in 1911. The next trophy they won was in 1948 while playing at Maine Road. Manchester City were the biggest club in Manchester (the only one after 1910) for at least 75yrs not just the early 1900s. Utd went bust more than once and didn`t match City`s games in the top flight till the late 1990s.
It is one of my favorite derbys in the world. I actually wrote 4000 word extended essay on the media coverage of the rivalry back in my senior year of high school. It didn’t have a ton to do with the subject but I had a lot of fun doing it
@AtTheBridgePod. I flew into UK especially for that game, I wasn't going to miss the last ever Maine Road league derby. I put a tenner on CITY to win 3-1 at 25/1. That paid for my air fare. At the end I stayed in the Kippax until everyone had left. That was my last ever visit to Maine Road. I haven't even driven past it since.
Just from your description, we can see why Man UTD is so widely hated, some of their fans are really disgusting. It is also ridiculous in my eyes since they have zero contribution to Man UTD's past success, and they act like as if they have achieved something great.
Utd have always attracted bad characters in their support. They’ve always been a bunch of bullies, it’s in their DNA. Their fanbase is well known in England for only choosing to fight others when they have the larger numbers, whenever they’re going up against an even group of hooligans they run. Cowards
There is an iconic moment in 1973-74 season, when Manchester United suffered their last relegation from the top-flight football, only 6 years after the European Cup win at Wembley. It was the Manchester Derby game that sealed Manchester United's relegation fate, as they lost 0-1 at Old Trafford. If you don't know who's the player that scored the goal during that game, it was Denis Law, who is, ironically, one of the infamous United Trinity members from the golden period of Matt Busby alongside George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton. However, Manchester United's relegation fate was actually confirmed after Birmingham City defeated Norwich City at the same time. Also, Sir Bobby Charlton had passed away. Such a big loss that he was considered the most successful footballer in England with European Cup/Champions League, World Cup, and Ballon d'Or. I would also suggest making the Roots of Rivalry for Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund. It was also considered the biggest one, especially during the 2010s, when Dortmund under Jurgen Klopp won back-to-back Bundesliga titles and reached the Champions League Final, where they narrowly lost to none other than Bayern Munich.
Just finished this series... You are great..... When is the next one... Or of you're interested in starting a new series... You're more than welcome to take this idea, but how about football (soccer) clubs falls from grace series
Lovely video Adrian !! Could you do one one Girona? Where they came from, how are they winning so much? What's the actual playing style like and are there good potential players there?
Watched a 18 mins video still have no idea how the people from Manchester decide which team they will support, like how the fans were divided initially!!? 🤔
I haven't even watched the video but I'm sure you've made this video seem like United has always been ontop of City until about 2012. Let's hope its not so.
I think your observation about the non- sectarian nature of the Manchester clubs may not be quite correct. When I was a young boy in Manchester in the 1950s, it was generally understood that United was a Catholic club and City the protestants but with a sizeable Jewish contingent. Manchester at the time had, and still has, a large Jewish population. Indeed one of our childhood chants as City supporters was "Down the Reds, they're Catholic Teds" (Teddy Boys). Matt Busby recruited quite a few players from Ireland at that time. Also your mention of freemasonry and City is interesting because Catholics then were barred from becoming freemasons. So I presume that the Freemasons probably went to watch City. None of his, however, was on the scale of the Glasgow rivalries, for instance.
The pendulum has shifted, but Liverpool remain as a constant. In old times, when United and their fans considered Liverpool as their biggest rival, now City and their fans consider Liverpool as their biggest rival. And tbh, in the last couple of years, Man City v Liverpool has been a blockbuster showdown, and at times even bigger than El Clasico from a sporting level. Would love to see a Roots of Rivalry spin on Man City v Liverpool
Yup. Another coincidence is Liverpool has been on the losing side during both the reigns. TBF Liverpool was the first to have an era in English football. UTD next. Now we are in City's era.
There is no real rivalry with City and Liverpool. Every LFC fan loved city until 2008. Like the Liverpool / United rivalry ...its just 2 groups of spoiled fans
I dunno, I remember every Pool and Citeh fan licking each other's arse back in 2018/19. Comments like "no-one else talk, WE'RE so far ahead of all of you", etc. And like, it wasn't wrong, but it was almost weird to see both sets of fans being so kiss-ass to each other. 😂 Especially funny as Yanited fans got super triggered over it all. But yeah, there was no real rivalry there, lol
United fans have wanted citeh to win every title race they have been involved in with Liverpool that should tell you who uniteds main rival is , United fans hate 3 teams Liverpool, Leeds, and citeh in that order some fans would even throw in arsenal and Chelsea before citeh , citeh are just obscessed with united , before citeh were bought and financially doped most citeh fans hated United more than they loved citeh
@@JamacianwoodbineFunny that, I never saw permanent banners in Old Trafford talking about Liverpool or Leeds. Liverpool vs United was almost meaningless prior to the 1990s, when Sky decided to promote it as THE game to make £££. There have been more title races between City and Liverpool and City and Utd than between Liverpool and Utd.
What I don’t get about British humor is how over the top it is. These fans will go out of their way to make fun of other fans but it can easily rubber band back and smack them in their face.
There was a fire at hyde road(not park) man citys old ground that ruined the stand,united tried to charge city extortionate prices,old trafford got bombed years later and city let them play there for nout,the reason there called the rags.man city the only football team to come from Manchester,fact.
Almost true, Utd were supposed to give City part of the ticket sales but they never did. Despite this, the following decade in the 1950s, Utd couldn’t play European games midweek at Old Trafford due to no floodlights… City still, despite being owed money, allowed Utd to use Maine Road. There’s about 3 occasions at least where City bailed Utd out during the 20th century.
One key inaccurate information on this video about City is, Man City is not owned by a state objectively and legally. Shiekh Mansour is private individual who owns Abu Dhabi Group, a company private equity company . This is not state related but private holding. I don't blame people if they are ignorant on the facts but to propogate misinformation is unacceptable especially when its ready and availalble online to verify and fact check.
Just because a loophole was used doesn't change the fact City is owned by someone who is in control of a nation state. One with a horrible human rights track record at that. Same goes for NUFC and PSG
@@alr68 Its not a loop hole its irrelevant information. States man can own a private business that does not mean the same state ownes that business with him. I lost braincells trying to make sens of your poor logic.
@@alr68 False equivalent PSG and NUFC are state owned invetsmnet firms not Abu Dhabi United Group that is not owned by a state but by an individual. Again you area wrong with false information.
@@ifldiscovery8500 All 3 are state owned. Just because the wolf is wearing sheeps clothing does not make it a sheep. People such as yourself that can't see the truth for the legalese are what ruins many, many things.
@@alr68 I am sorrh this is a statement which you have made not an argument. Yoh have shown no evidence to back up your claim that City has connection to state of UAE. Not an argument
People that live in Manchester are team hoppers they don’t mind if the the noisy neighbors win as long as it comes back to Manchester ‼️‼️‼️‼️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Firstly, City are not in fact owned by the UAE, Secondly, United have spent more money than City, so you cannot say we have only won because of our money, but because of the good football we play.
Good video but you say that the “glazers have become big spenders” which is categorically untrue. United are big spenders but the glazers have not invested a single cent into the clubs spending, in fact it’s the opposite, they’ve taken out almost a billion in dividends that would have been spent by the club itself. I understand why you phrased it the way you did but saying that united fans have less reason to call out cities spending because of United’s spending isn’t true because city’s money has been from outside investment and their owners whereas United’s is only half of the money it should have spent that’s come from club revenue. United fans don’t make fun of city spending they make fun of them relying on outside investment which united doesn’t rely on.
0:35 You have taken that charges too lightly my boy! 115 charges is not just.... its everything that is wrong with the football! Edit 1: 14:56 where is Liverpool Its PSG? I was really surprised to hear you say Liverpool having more Net spend than Man city.
So, I'm an "International" young United fan and started really watching football around 2007. When United were the dominant team. While I initially was an FC Barcelona fan due to their play style and success, I eventually joined my dad in supporting the Red Devils. While I had a dislike for Liverpool, it never really sank in because of United's unending success. However, the day I began to hate City more was the 1-6 loss at Old Trafford and this was the time I began to hate Ballotelli, Aguero and Dzeko. (A hate that still lingers to this day). The hate reached its peak and was cemented on the final day of the 2011/2012 season. I had watched the United game, naturally, and changed over to watch the City game. I was ready to celebrate another title with Ferguson. Unfortunately for me, I got to watch the "AGUEROOOOOOO" moment live. Since then I hated City with a burning passion. Any team that played against City, I will support. Even if it was Liverpool, I would cheer for every goal they would score. It didn't help that the Glazers ran the club into the ground while the City group kept building a monster of a club. Even last season, when Arsenal was chasing the title, I was an Arsenal fan all the way and was fine when they beat us, as long as it prevented the noisy neighbours clinching yet another title. It infuriated me when I saw fellow United fans cheering on City. And these were fans my own age! Did you not see what they've being doing to us? Why would support them? To make it EVEN WORSE, they went on to achieve the treble we held so dear. Anywho, if City played an XI of the worst people in history, a team that includes Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot etc and was coached by the Devil himself, I would support that team over City.
The fact you iterate that you hate city and we get under your skin is hilarious. If you were a local supporter going back to the 80’s the irony of your feelings would not be lost on you. My advice to you is continue your support but move past the hatred, you will be a happier person. Of course if the tables were to be overturned then make the most of it, I know the current city fans are.
City didn't move to Hyde Park, they moved to Hyde Rd. And That picture is of Maine Rd, not Hyde Rd. I'm a Red, and even I know that! The former is now a housing estate, the latter, a lorry park. And, actually, the party went very well, even if it wasn't held at Maine Rd's Silver Suite... "massive flood, my arse".
As a United fan who’s lived in Manchester all my life I can’t lie I’ve never really hated City like that, at least not as much as I hate Liverpool/Leeds/Arsenal but with city it’s always mainly just been a strong dislike.
The swing really boils down to how much better managed City is compared to United over the last 10 years. That being said, I think you downplay the rule breaking by city by quite a bit. With regards to Chelsea (Pre Todd Boehly) and especially Liverpool, they've suffered significant setbacks because they've had to comply with FFP regulations. Given the stiff competition between these 3 clubs in recent years , it would only be fair that you acknowledge the significance of City cheating and their blatant attempts to cover it up.
you are talking nonsense mate, do you even know what they are charges are and how much they breached ffp? its over pennies, like 2 or 3 mill, its nothing, just bs by otherr clubs
@johnvalentine8941 I don't know how you could be so confidently stupid. Some of the charges include under the table money they've paid to managers, agents and players in the millions. Only a small Brain should think that isn't a big deal.
Man Yanited were one of the teams that benefitted most from the Premier League breakaway from the English League. If not for something like that, Citeh may not well have been bought out in the first place. I don't believe in Karma but, lmao... Anyone who does can probably see exactly what I'm getting at. 😂 I do not feel sorry for Yanited and their treatment under the Glaziers or Citeh's benefit under Abu Dhabi at all. They were among the front runners to open that door in the first place and benefitted for years. What goes around comes around. 😊😊
United benefited from the Premier league becoming popular citeh have been financially doped no comparison , teams like united and Liverpool ran a marathon citeh jumped into a taxi to get to the finish line no comparison pal
@@Jamacianwoodbine You missed my point entirely. 🙂 Clubs like Yanited and Pooly WANTED a breakaway from normal football in the first place which lead to excess investment. Citeh was very much a problem MADE by those seeking the extra financial benefit of breaking away in the first place. If the Prem never happened, City never happens. If you feels it's unfair and only Yanited and Pooly should have got the resources, then the breakaway would have only been monopolization, which is also antithesis to actual sport.
@@destined1536 Not sure if that true but even if it is, we have a huge fanbase and a rich history that makes it possible to spend big. We all know Man Utd got a shit board and negotiators that make us over spend for player and the wages, plus so many many other issues that this board and owners caused. Man City in the other hand would be in league 2 without them sheikhs and we all know it.
Kinda a shame you didn't even just mention United of Manchester, the club split from ManUtd because of the anti-glazer, left wing stance. I know it's not the place to talk in depth about it but I feel that talking about ManUtd is something that has to be mentioned
Not mentioning that United also had massive financial backing from outside inverstors in the early 1900s seems like a massive miss. Especially since it was basically the same thing that happened to City in 2008. History repeating itself 100 years later but to their local rivals
“He said not in my lifetime, now it’s every time“
That description of City fans going to school really brought back some memories, I still remember the chaos on the day we finally won the league with the Aguero goal, fights all day. Good times
I was far too pissed for fighting or finding my way home, I was stuck in a cul de sac for nearly half an hour
You are a blue lets two foot him
You didn't even mention City winning a cup winners cup and being the first British team to win a domestic and european double in the same season.
Let's not forget Utd went 37 years without winning any silverware 1911-1948. Maybe City fans should've unfurled their own banner to remind Utd fans of this. 😂
Yh
You didn't mention about how City leant their ground to United for zero fee after WW2 during Old Trafford rebuild after it got bombed.
It was not for zero fee, we were supposed to be paid a rent from their ticket sales. They just never paid because they think they are a special case.
United can talk about money and charges when they actually pay their rent.
@@illiteratethug3305 wonder how much has that amounted to with inflation and interest charges 🤔
we are a special case@@illiteratethug3305
@@nikhilwalia9777another very very good point you’ve made heree 👍 in other words man united wouldn’t be relevant without Man City
@@awais6789 They never were when utd went bust for the second time in 1931 a local non league side with bigger support tried to take their place in the league. Manchester City foolishly voted against this and gave them kits to play in without which they wouldn`t exist.
It`s ironic the rabble over at old scaffold sing "man utd will never die" as without their neighbours they would have done on numerous occasions.
Your videos are one of the reasons I have my job as a sound designer and production manager today. If you ever doubt your importance, remember that you can never ever tell how, who and even why your work will impact someone. You're really amazing. Well done.
Wow man 🙏🏽
Ever since that 1-6, power shift🥵🥵
As a Mancunian City fan, who’s been going since the 1990s, I think it was the end of the previous season, when we beat Utd 1-0 at Wembley in the FA Cup semi final.
That was the first time I came away thinking we were better than them in my whole life.
I love how this guy made a whole chapter to place this rivalry as one sided.
Completely ignores the significant matches like Massacre at Maine Road in 1989, The Derby that relegated United in 1974 or so.
Beautiful
"Your club has no history" Vs "Your club has no future"
City has been dominant for 12 years now…a decade of success. Pretty sure that’s history itself
Just a tip: at around 13:42 in the video you described aguero’s goal as “infamous” for city and neutral supporters - it is infamous for united supporters, not the other way around
Congrats on your wedding!
Infamous is still famous 😂 😂
Oh, so man city has a history before the oil money. I just love how football fans can bask in their ignorance and strongly deny reality.
It's banter mate, it's not that deep
@@opinionatortv6457 lets be honest, it is that deep. the pettiness of humans is bottomless. to blatantly deny the truth because of a sense of misplaced pride lol football is a fickle mistress for many
I for one love oil, don't care what anyone says going from Stephan Ireland to David Silva/Kevin De Bruyne has made my last Decade rather than watching dross I'm watching dominance and frankly after numerous times gettingshit for supporting city, United fans at work have become historians that can only say 20 times 😂
Man City have always had history 💪🔵🔵🔵⚪️🔵💙🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Exactly, it`s a place that the rag and dipper tourists inhabit on a daily basis.
City did also win a cup winners cup in the early 70s as well. Oh and theres only one club in Manchester and its blue! Ctid
Always love a good Roots of the Rivalry video. Rest In Peace Bobby Charlton, one of the great of English football and one who survived the Munich disaster in 1958
He also scored 2 goals during the 1968 European Cup Final against Benfica.
Just a few points Newton Heath the football club was formed in late 1880 not 1878. The 1878 Newton Heath was a rugby club and nothing to do with what became Manchester United. St Marks (Manchester City) was the first club in Manchester to play association rules football. Trophies throughout their history is a bit of a stretch City had just missed out on the double in 1904 while utd were still floundering in the second tier. Manchester City were accused of paying bonus payments to players shortly after with players being banned from playing for the club. This led to utd snapping up a number of these players and building their team around them which is where their first 3 trophies came from the last in 1911. The next trophy they won was in 1948 while playing at Maine Road. Manchester City were the biggest club in Manchester (the only one after 1910) for at least 75yrs not just the early 1900s. Utd went bust more than once and didn`t match City`s games in the top flight till the late 1990s.
Lol bruh. Such a cheeky behaviour from Msn United 😮😅. Both have deep history
@@ashfaqsheikh3134 Utd`s history was writing the book on sugar daddies after going bust.
Congratulations on your wedding!! 💍 and thank you for another great video . Keep it up!
It is one of my favorite derbys in the world. I actually wrote 4000 word extended essay on the media coverage of the rivalry back in my senior year of high school. It didn’t have a ton to do with the subject but I had a lot of fun doing it
I hope your essay mentioned how they’re a bunch of scruffy red bastards that don’t even play their home games in our glorious city?
When i think of Manchester City i think of Nicolas Anelka and Shaun Goater when they beat United 3-1 in 2002.
@AtTheBridgePod. I flew into UK especially for that game, I wasn't going to miss the last ever Maine Road league derby. I put a tenner on CITY to win 3-1 at 25/1. That paid for my air fare. At the end I stayed in the Kippax until everyone had left. That was my last ever visit to Maine Road. I haven't even driven past it since.
Lol Anelka .... im sure you have your own good and bad memories of that guy at the bridge
@@monkeydluffy736 genuinely a top player for us, very underrated player
That was Citys first win over United in 13 years
3:50Your saying money influenced United to go from low tier to top of the top right after takeover?? WOW that's UNBELIEVABLE
tinsaederesse9173 only to the clueless. The rags wrote the book on sugar daddies without which they would have folded as early as 1902.
Just from your description, we can see why Man UTD is so widely hated, some of their fans are really disgusting. It is also ridiculous in my eyes since they have zero contribution to Man UTD's past success, and they act like as if they have achieved something great.
theyre a club of scum the rags. real mancunians are manchester city fans
Utd have always attracted bad characters in their support. They’ve always been a bunch of bullies, it’s in their DNA.
Their fanbase is well known in England for only choosing to fight others when they have the larger numbers, whenever they’re going up against an even group of hooligans they run.
Cowards
There is an iconic moment in 1973-74 season, when Manchester United suffered their last relegation from the top-flight football, only 6 years after the European Cup win at Wembley. It was the Manchester Derby game that sealed Manchester United's relegation fate, as they lost 0-1 at Old Trafford. If you don't know who's the player that scored the goal during that game, it was Denis Law, who is, ironically, one of the infamous United Trinity members from the golden period of Matt Busby alongside George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton. However, Manchester United's relegation fate was actually confirmed after Birmingham City defeated Norwich City at the same time.
Also, Sir Bobby Charlton had passed away. Such a big loss that he was considered the most successful footballer in England with European Cup/Champions League, World Cup, and Ballon d'Or.
I would also suggest making the Roots of Rivalry for Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund. It was also considered the biggest one, especially during the 2010s, when Dortmund under Jurgen Klopp won back-to-back Bundesliga titles and reached the Champions League Final, where they narrowly lost to none other than Bayern Munich.
4:20 glad to see some things don't change
Are we getting a roots to your marriage video?
Congrats btw
Manchester City .....Every Liverpool supporters favourite club until about 10 years ago.
Mark Hughes wasn't appointed by Abu Dhabi, he was appointed by the last owner shortly before selling.
I was just about to search if you've already posted the video and you posted it. Wow
Looking good Adrian. Happy to listen to this one! Go city!
We are Manchester City , because we are the only club in Manchester . CTID
Congrats on the wedding bro🎉🎉🎉 Where is the weekend recap (wedding edition)?
Hey love your work
Why? It's poor at best.
Good video.
The rags had a 10y trophy drought through the 70s
You seem to have forgotten the 1977 FA cup final which they won
Suggestion for roots of the rivalry: Gremio vs Internacional
Can you do the Derbi da Capital (Benfica vs Sporting)
Yeah baby that's what I've been waiting for
Just finished this series... You are great..... When is the next one... Or of you're interested in starting a new series... You're more than welcome to take this idea, but how about football (soccer) clubs falls from grace series
Great work again on the roots of the revelry series keep it up there a fun watch. Any chance on a Porto V benfica one 🤞
Adrian looks like someone I would vibe with while playing footy on a Saturday evening.
Great video Adrian! As always 🩵
Lovely video Adrian !! Could you do one one Girona? Where they came from, how are they winning so much? What's the actual playing style like and are there good potential players there?
Solid video
Watched a 18 mins video still have no idea how the people from Manchester decide which team they will support, like how the fans were divided initially!!? 🤔
Easy, if you’re a decent human being you chose City.
Grabs popcorn 🍿😀
ADRIAN, WHEN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SEGUNDA CIRCULAR DERBY (SPORTING CP VS SL BENFICA)?
Wasnt tottenham the first english team to win in europe in 1963?
He said the first English team to win the European Cup (modern day Champions League), which went to Manchester United.
I haven't even watched the video but I'm sure you've made this video seem like United has always been ontop of City until about 2012.
Let's hope its not so.
3:15 imagining people losing their shit over a debt like that at that time 😅 (i'm a barca fan btw, and you know what my situation is rn).
Cannot believe you haven`t made a roots of the rivalry on Benfica and Porto or even Benfica and Sporting, but maybe these will be special videos haha
4:26 we repeated the same feat on March 5th 2023
The 1910 game was ended in 4-3 scoreline for Liverpool. That 2023 game was totally an obliteration because Liverpool scored 7 in just single game.
Please make one about the Belgrade clubs FK Red Star and FK Partizan - the Eternal Derby
I think your observation about the non- sectarian nature of the Manchester clubs may not be quite correct. When I was a young boy in Manchester in the 1950s, it was generally understood that United was a Catholic club and City the protestants but with a sizeable Jewish contingent. Manchester at the time had, and still has, a large Jewish population. Indeed one of our childhood chants as City supporters was "Down the Reds, they're Catholic Teds" (Teddy Boys). Matt Busby recruited quite a few players from Ireland at that time. Also your mention of freemasonry and City is interesting because Catholics then were barred from becoming freemasons. So I presume that the Freemasons probably went to watch City. None of his, however, was on the scale of the Glasgow rivalries, for instance.
united are manchester by name yes they are from trafford they pay there council tax to trafford council where as city to manchester council
The pendulum has shifted, but Liverpool remain as a constant. In old times, when United and their fans considered Liverpool as their biggest rival, now City and their fans consider Liverpool as their biggest rival.
And tbh, in the last couple of years, Man City v Liverpool has been a blockbuster showdown, and at times even bigger than El Clasico from a sporting level.
Would love to see a Roots of Rivalry spin on Man City v Liverpool
Yup. Another coincidence is Liverpool has been on the losing side during both the reigns.
TBF Liverpool was the first to have an era in English football. UTD next. Now we are in City's era.
There is no real rivalry with City and Liverpool. Every LFC fan loved city until 2008. Like the Liverpool / United rivalry ...its just 2 groups of spoiled fans
I dunno, I remember every Pool and Citeh fan licking each other's arse back in 2018/19. Comments like "no-one else talk, WE'RE so far ahead of all of you", etc.
And like, it wasn't wrong, but it was almost weird to see both sets of fans being so kiss-ass to each other. 😂
Especially funny as Yanited fans got super triggered over it all.
But yeah, there was no real rivalry there, lol
United fans have wanted citeh to win every title race they have been involved in with Liverpool that should tell you who uniteds main rival is , United fans hate 3 teams Liverpool, Leeds, and citeh in that order some fans would even throw in arsenal and Chelsea before citeh , citeh are just obscessed with united , before citeh were bought and financially doped most citeh fans hated United more than they loved citeh
@@JamacianwoodbineFunny that, I never saw permanent banners in Old Trafford talking about Liverpool or Leeds.
Liverpool vs United was almost meaningless prior to the 1990s, when Sky decided to promote it as THE game to make £££.
There have been more title races between City and Liverpool and City and Utd than between Liverpool and Utd.
How did your research not tell you about the St Bernard mascot
Dude I love you
What I don’t get about British humor is how over the top it is. These fans will go out of their way to make fun of other fans but it can easily rubber band back and smack them in their face.
115 charges to answer for ynwa
Nope, those making accusations need to prove it.
There was a fire at hyde road(not park) man citys old ground that ruined the stand,united tried to charge city extortionate prices,old trafford got bombed years later and city let them play there for nout,the reason there called the rags.man city the only football team to come from Manchester,fact.
Almost true, Utd were supposed to give City part of the ticket sales but they never did.
Despite this, the following decade in the 1950s, Utd couldn’t play European games midweek at Old Trafford due to no floodlights… City still, despite being owed money, allowed Utd to use Maine Road.
There’s about 3 occasions at least where City bailed Utd out during the 20th century.
One key inaccurate information on this video about City is, Man City is not owned by a state objectively and legally. Shiekh Mansour is private individual who owns Abu Dhabi Group, a company private equity company . This is not state related but private holding. I don't blame people if they are ignorant on the facts but to propogate misinformation is unacceptable especially when its ready and availalble online to verify and fact check.
Just because a loophole was used doesn't change the fact City is owned by someone who is in control of a nation state. One with a horrible human rights track record at that. Same goes for NUFC and PSG
@@alr68 Its not a loop hole its irrelevant information. States man can own a private business that does not mean the same state ownes that business with him.
I lost braincells trying to make sens of your poor logic.
@@alr68 False equivalent PSG and NUFC are state owned invetsmnet firms not Abu Dhabi United Group that is not owned by a state but by an individual. Again you area wrong with false information.
@@ifldiscovery8500 All 3 are state owned. Just because the wolf is wearing sheeps clothing does not make it a sheep.
People such as yourself that can't see the truth for the legalese are what ruins many, many things.
@@alr68 I am sorrh this is a statement which you have made not an argument. Yoh have shown no evidence to back up your claim that City has connection to state of UAE.
Not an argument
Please do a video of Pepe, he just became the oldest person to play an official Uefa match🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
He did,I think
vienna derby next please
Congrats for the wedding!
And people say we City dont have history 😂😮. We are the original 😮😊. Bit both are best
Actually theres something wrong with the intro, only the 2021/2022 season united did not win against city other then that they always won 1 match
Welcome back! Congrats on getting married!
Wake up babe, Adrian just posted a "Roots of The Rivalry" video
Honestly hated Barca more then City even as a United fan, I was bothered with them but then came the smoke and I can’t respect it yet
We will always be noisy neighbours because we are partying 247 😁
Do one for ISL clubs Mohun Bagan and East Bengal!
I think he already did one. A Kerala Blaster vs Bengaluru FC video would be great
@@sreenivaskamath4243 oh yes. I realised later!
Can you please do Chelsea Leeds or Chelsea Tottenham?
Some say if City hadn't beat Gillingham in 99 they might have folded
DO PORTO V BENFICA 🙏🙏
It’s a pretty big dagger though 😂
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City 🇦🇪 UAE has spent billions to win 9 premier league titles exactly like Everton😒
And spent billions to win the same amount of CLs as Villa
City isn't owned by the UAE
United have spent more since then, I don't see 9 premier leagues.
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Congratulations on your wedding 💍🎉
People that live in Manchester are team hoppers they don’t mind if the the noisy neighbors win as long as it comes back to Manchester ‼️‼️‼️‼️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
You mean united fans in Manchester
@@madeinengland9488vice versa
You’ve never been here. Don’t talk about stuff you’ve got no idea about. As a born and bred Mancunian, I’ve never met anyone swapping teams.
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Tyne Wear Derby please
City = UAE 🇦🇪
u can’t ever pass over this FACT🤏
City’s in Manchester lil bro
City are also known as the Manchester Arabs
utd have spent more than city since 2016 lmao
Firstly, City are not in fact owned by the UAE, Secondly, United have spent more money than City, so you cannot say we have only won because of our money, but because of the good football we play.
not 1st but very early
We still own 13 Prem titles
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Good video but you say that the “glazers have become big spenders” which is categorically untrue. United are big spenders but the glazers have not invested a single cent into the clubs spending, in fact it’s the opposite, they’ve taken out almost a billion in dividends that would have been spent by the club itself. I understand why you phrased it the way you did but saying that united fans have less reason to call out cities spending because of United’s spending isn’t true because city’s money has been from outside investment and their owners whereas United’s is only half of the money it should have spent that’s come from club revenue. United fans don’t make fun of city spending they make fun of them relying on outside investment which united doesn’t rely on.
0:35 You have taken that charges too lightly my boy! 115 charges is not just.... its everything that is wrong with the football!
Edit 1: 14:56 where is Liverpool Its PSG? I was really surprised to hear you say Liverpool having more Net spend than Man city.
But hacking our emails and the Luis Suarez 40 million and one release clause is just fine though [/sarcasm]
Yes they do same as Arsenal don't be surprised when you spend money for nothing
I wish all teams could cheat
They can
So, I'm an "International" young United fan and started really watching football around 2007. When United were the dominant team. While I initially was an FC Barcelona fan due to their play style and success, I eventually joined my dad in supporting the Red Devils. While I had a dislike for Liverpool, it never really sank in because of United's unending success. However, the day I began to hate City more was the 1-6 loss at Old Trafford and this was the time I began to hate Ballotelli, Aguero and Dzeko. (A hate that still lingers to this day). The hate reached its peak and was cemented on the final day of the 2011/2012 season. I had watched the United game, naturally, and changed over to watch the City game. I was ready to celebrate another title with Ferguson. Unfortunately for me, I got to watch the "AGUEROOOOOOO" moment live. Since then I hated City with a burning passion. Any team that played against City, I will support. Even if it was Liverpool, I would cheer for every goal they would score. It didn't help that the Glazers ran the club into the ground while the City group kept building a monster of a club. Even last season, when Arsenal was chasing the title, I was an Arsenal fan all the way and was fine when they beat us, as long as it prevented the noisy neighbours clinching yet another title. It infuriated me when I saw fellow United fans cheering on City. And these were fans my own age! Did you not see what they've being doing to us? Why would support them? To make it EVEN WORSE, they went on to achieve the treble we held so dear. Anywho, if City played an XI of the worst people in history, a team that includes Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot etc and was coached by the Devil himself, I would support that team over City.
Try being a fucking QPR fan seeing that shit rammed down our throats for 11 years on every bloody sky sports football advert
Weirdly passionate.
@@ryanergo754 Emotional trauma from childhood is a hell of a thing
I am a city fan and I still like this comment. Mad respect.
The fact you iterate that you hate city and we get under your skin is hilarious. If you were a local supporter going back to the 80’s the irony of your feelings would not be lost on you. My advice to you is continue your support but move past the hatred, you will be a happier person. Of course if the tables were to be overturned then make the most of it, I know the current city fans are.
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April 1902,the Genesis of Losschester United
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City didn't move to Hyde Park, they moved to Hyde Rd. And That picture is of Maine Rd, not Hyde Rd. I'm a Red, and even I know that! The former is now a housing estate, the latter, a lorry park. And, actually, the party went very well, even if it wasn't held at Maine Rd's Silver Suite... "massive flood, my arse".
And all it took was the sports washing of an oil rich gulf state who has doped their way to the top.
As a United fan who’s lived in Manchester all my life I can’t lie I’ve never really hated City like that, at least not as much as I hate Liverpool/Leeds/Arsenal but with city it’s always mainly just been a strong dislike.
Same to you guys. But we can clearly come together when we have to unless it's Liverpool
Either not Manc or a plastic
Oil FC has also rarely been the victim of poor officiating or bad VAR decisions. Go figure 🤔🤔🤔
you're not from manchester haha
@@ManchesterBlue1894And you are probably from Stockport.
😂😂 Manchesters Red, always will be
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The swing really boils down to how much better managed City is compared to United over the last 10 years. That being said, I think you downplay the rule breaking by city by quite a bit. With regards to Chelsea (Pre Todd Boehly) and especially Liverpool, they've suffered significant setbacks because they've had to comply with FFP regulations. Given the stiff competition between these 3 clubs in recent years , it would only be fair that you acknowledge the significance of City cheating and their blatant attempts to cover it up.
you are talking nonsense mate, do you even know what they are charges are and how much they breached ffp? its over pennies, like 2 or 3 mill, its nothing, just bs by otherr clubs
@johnvalentine8941 I don't know how you could be so confidently stupid. Some of the charges include under the table money they've paid to managers, agents and players in the millions. Only a small Brain should think that isn't a big deal.
🫡City fans chant 🇦🇪 UAE royal anthem 🇦🇪 every time City wins 🥰 👏👏👏Respect🫡
I don't think you can hear many of them chanting that since they cannot fill their stadium up with fans
@@KS-xj7uxdead joke
Says the club praying for Qatari ownership to save them
We aren't owned by the UAE so no reason to sing that.
Man Yanited were one of the teams that benefitted most from the Premier League breakaway from the English League.
If not for something like that, Citeh may not well have been bought out in the first place.
I don't believe in Karma but, lmao... Anyone who does can probably see exactly what I'm getting at. 😂
I do not feel sorry for Yanited and their treatment under the Glaziers or Citeh's benefit under Abu Dhabi at all. They were among the front runners to open that door in the first place and benefitted for years.
What goes around comes around. 😊😊
United benefited from the Premier league becoming popular citeh have been financially doped no comparison , teams like united and Liverpool ran a marathon citeh jumped into a taxi to get to the finish line no comparison pal
@@Jamacianwoodbine You missed my point entirely. 🙂
Clubs like Yanited and Pooly WANTED a breakaway from normal football in the first place which lead to excess investment.
Citeh was very much a problem MADE by those seeking the extra financial benefit of breaking away in the first place.
If the Prem never happened, City never happens. If you feels it's unfair and only Yanited and Pooly should have got the resources, then the breakaway would have only been monopolization, which is also antithesis to actual sport.
When you have a whole oil state backing you financially, anything is possible. #115
United spent the same amount of money bro, it’s not about the money, it’s about the competence.
@@destined1536 Not sure if that true but even if it is, we have a huge fanbase and a rich history that makes it possible to spend big. We all know Man Utd got a shit board and negotiators that make us over spend for player and the wages, plus so many many other issues that this board and owners caused. Man City in the other hand would be in league 2 without them sheikhs and we all know it.
@@destined1536united spend their own money they aren't financially doped like citeh are that's the difference
So Oil Money thats breaking the rules vs Bad Management. Yeah that's why people want Arsenal or Liverpool to win.
Kinda a shame you didn't even just mention United of Manchester, the club split from ManUtd because of the anti-glazer, left wing stance. I know it's not the place to talk in depth about it but I feel that talking about ManUtd is something that has to be mentioned
👏 Manchester City of United Arab Emirates 🇦🇪
United Arabs of Manchester