Oh my gosh stop taking this out of context. He said that when he first red the script he disagreed with his character's direction but eventually came around to it.
FeebleBird903 That doesnt change the fact that he *originally* disagreed with it. He omly ever eventually accept it *months* after saying it *And* the fact that it apparently shocks and worries everyone from fans to even the director,Rian Johnson *Himself* . So no. It's still actually quotable
issac garcia he really was that bad. His editors and his ex-wife rescued the first star wars film. It was a bloated mess. Lucas is a decent idea guy but should not direct or edit his own works. There is a great video of the edit here on youtube.
It's astounding to me how Rian Johnson is such a bad writer. Half of the shit that was said in TLJ makes zero sense. I really think there must be something wrong with people that defend this movie. I've never seen a movie that has more plot-holes and inconsistencies. It's embarrassing
Mark Hamill literally said he fundamentally disagreed with everything that happend to luke Skywalker. I know he Isnt a director but his word should carry some weight
Honestly, Hamill deserved better than this. Unlike Harrison Ford, he wasn't sick of his role. He was happy to come back and play as Luke, but Rian just had to break that joy didn't he?
He was ready to risk his life infiltrating Death Star II to try to save Darth Vader. One of the most evil men in the galaxy. But in Last Jedi, his biggest regret was not killing a 15 year old boy who might turn evil in the future.
This is what should've been done: instead of admiral purple hair, it should've been Ackbar who stayed behind on the Rebel Cruiser. He should've turned it towards the First Order fleet... they hail him... First Order: ''Is this some sort of diversion?'' Ackbar: ''No. It's a trap'' * Boom *
Tf. Did Obi Wan die because death Vader bested him? Or because he knew he could help Luke more by becoming one with the force? Did yoga really age like a couple hundred years and die from old age from ROTS and ANH? Doubt it. Just like them Luke died because it was no longer his role to physically be there to stop the dark. Besides. You ever seen anyone create and control a hologram with voice and perfect likeness from light years away? Sounds pretty next level to me.
Joe Brooks the projection you're referring to with Snoke is simply a video phone call, generals on star destroyers in Empire talked to Vader via videolink
that's exactly what I've been saying.... It's basically like if game of thrones would have been like "well everyone already figured out R+L=J, so lets not do that to surprise everyone at the expense of being a cohesive story"
Viral Killer they completely did the opposite. They didn’t reveal snoke’s in the movie, they killed Luke to remove him from the franchise for no reason because Fisher died during the movie time(but hey lets see CGI Leia in episode 9...what a waste of money for episode 9)
Rian Jonson gets a hard-on from subverting expectations. It makes him feel like he's smarter than the entire world. But it's about as clever as a nine-year-old jumping out and going "Boo! Ha ha! Surprised you!" Just because something is random doesn't mean it's clever.
Except he does have good ideas, Rey's twist is a twist pn the already common: I Am Your Father reveal, it's what we expect, so he once again challenges that expectation in an interesting way, because I don'g know about you, but having a hero who literally comes from nothing against this guy who came from heroes and became a hige villain is pretty cool, also he gave Luke a character arc instead of just amking him Yoda 2.0
I think Rian is just a nihilist, who wants to destroy what other people have made. I think the end of "The Last Jedi" proves this. At the end of the movie, the rebellion has been reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon. Rian even makes the point of saying that the Rebels contacted the Republic for help and NO ONE was responding. Where can another writer possibly take things from there? If I were deliberately TRYING to f*ck up the franchise, "The Last Jedi" is exactly the kind of movie I would make.
Diego De la Fuente lol gave Luke a character arc? His Luke is a completely different person and ignores his past character development. That’s not clever writing, it’s stupid.
@Shonksu Anakin had 10-13 years of training. Luke had 4 years. Got his ass kicked by Vader. Then in ROTJ he made Vader realize the conflict in him he didn't outright overpower Vader. Rey on the other hand was handed everything to her. Force abilities with no training. A year of training at most after TLJ. They had to cover their tracks and explain the force dyad, Ren transferring some of his powers to her, and her being a Palpatine
Nem Denemam Snoke and Kylo are lucky the rebels don't have an army of BB-8s. You what F@$! the Jedi, every rebel should be trained to fight like a BB-8 and wear cardboard boxes to look like one.
Disney didn't make these. It would be like blaming 20th Century Fox for Jar Jar. Disney doesnt write, direct, produce, cast...they play little to no role in making these movies. Rian Johnson is not Disney.
+Jason Harshman but the writers and director are all Disney’s choices. I’ve said from the beginning that rian Johnson was a shit choice for a director for a numbered Star Wars movie.
Still, don't you think its a bit unfair to pin EVERYTHING on Disney? Kathleen Kennedy IS the one responsible for all things Star Wars now, so if anything, shouldn't you pin things on her?
While I do see where you are coming from, do remember is an Lucasfilm production, which Kathleen Kennedy is in charge of. So, if you wanna blame anyone for what Rian did, blame her.
don't be so naive, they do take part in it, by making sure, the movie is more profitable, they do this with videogames, they do this with movies. Those tons of fucking animals for example is totally their doing!
As The Act Man once said, the second part in a trilogy is the most important because it follows up the previous part and sets up the final part. Say what you want about the prequals but from a fundamental stand point, AOTC is a better middle movie than TLJ. TLJ threw away nearly every plot point from TFA and gave no direction for episode 9 to go.
1. Luke is reduced to a hesitant jerk. 2. Too many twists and turns to count. 3. Disrespects the original films in terms of lore and history. 4. Mixing comedy into the serious moments. 5. (My personal issue), Finn is put into a very pointless side story with one character who is just there. 6. Wasting both actor Andy Serkis, and his character.
No 2. Was the biggest nail in the coffin, you have to balance surprises. You can't have a predictable movie but at the same time don't toss away all of the buildup. Guess which extreme Disney boy landed on? What a complete idiot.
Mark Hamill said it best, "They had time for me to milk an alien but not enough time for Luke to show any emotion." Another big issue, suddenly all that's needed to wipe out a fleet is one ship jumping to light speed? All this time, why has anyone wasted their time fighting with laser blasters or turbo lasers? Another problem, the Empire, First Order, has seemingly unlimited resources. Two Death Stars, Star Killer base, 4 full fleets, and yet they only seem to grow in size? Where does this all come from if Star Killer Base was wiped out? The last fleet that was wiped out had no effect because the next scene they were all down on the planet with no issue. I'll stop there but I could keep going.
The First Order is inconsistent. It's supposed to be a small remnant of the Empire's military yet with the destruction of Starkiller Base you think they should be broken as a fighting force beyond repair, with barely any ships left, since it seemd Starkiller Base was their main base of operations, yet somehow they still have a big enough fleet led by a massive flagship and thousands of stormtroopers to chase and destroy the remainder of the Resistance fleet which is even smaller and weaker than the remnant of the once mighty Imperial fleet?
the first deathstar at least made some sense.... the empire was in (full) control of an entire galaxy and they had at least two decades to build one deathstar, and that one just recently got finished when a new hope begins. so that made at least some sense. the second deathstar only makes sense if it was already in construction way before a new hope
They turned a character that still believed his father could be saved, even after he wiped out almost the entire Jedi order, brought back the Sith and spent years at Palpatine's side to someone who tried to kill his own grandson just because he felt some evil inside Ben. TLJ was an absolute joke, ruined every character and ruined everything interesting about TFA.
When all of the ATATs fired at Luke, I first thought that when the dust cleared it would have been revealed that Luke had suspended all of the thousands of blaster rounds from the ATATs in midair just like Kylo did that one blaster round at the start of The Force Awakens. Then he could have force-pushed all of the rounds back at the ATATs, destroying them all and leaving the battlefield completely barren aside from him and Kylo.
@@raymondvalasquez3992 not to me, hologram luke fits WAYYY better with the theme of Man and Myth, because no matter how much he trained or got powers, Luke as a man would never live up to the status of Luke The Legend, the warrior who defeated Darth Vader and Darth Sidious and destroyed the Empire, and thsi fits well, also when he fades away it's a nice callback to both Obi Wan and Han, with the "I will Always be with you" aswell as the "See You Around kid"
he was desperately trying to make it his film so he could do the last one that's what it seems to me like I watch the actor interviews and reading before the lines it seems they much prefer JJ not saying he was perfect but way better than this director!
That moment when you willingly watch an hour long youtube video over bashing the new Star Wars movie and you don't consider it a waste of time because the new Star Wars movie legitimately upset you that much. Me.
JJ isn't talented enough to create a new threat. His idea of "raising the stakes" is ALWAYS to take something from an earlier movie and x1000 it. Imagine him talking to the special effects guys: JJ: "And each of these Star Destroyers will have Death Star Tech, so it will have a cannon capable of destroying an entire planet!" SFX Guys: "JJ. did you even SEE 'Return of the Jedi?' The Death Star's reactor alone was MILES across! How do you fit that into a-" JJ: "Death. Star. Tech!"
TFA: Luke leaves a map behind with R2 and his friend (Max Von Sydow) in case he's needed while he searches for Jedi lore. TLJ: Luke's on some backwater planet trying to kill himself and has no idea how he was found BRAVO RIAN
Darth Vader murders the Jedi order, obiwan, innumerable beings across the galaxy for twenty odd years and younglings. Luke: There's still good in him. Kylo Ren has some evil dreams. Luke: Well he's evil now, better kill him in his sleep.
Rudy Solomon III Luke didn’t know about what else his Father did, but he saw the potential for another Darth Vader. It’s not like he attempted to kill him, he did hesitate when he realized he was about to kill Kylo Ren.
Obiwan told Luke a good amount about the atrocities of Vader, perhaps not the younglings, but the Jedi and the various systems and he saw Obiwan die first hand. Even though Luke had misgivings at the temple, he literally told Leia to her face Ben is beyond redemption and I'm going to end him. Luke Skywalker was a hero because he did what his father could not and now he's just as corrupt, arrogant, hypocritical and misanthropic as the Republic Jedi. Was he really that afraid of another Vader or was it Snoke that ignited that fear? He beat Vader through pacifism and appealing to his Light side. This is yet another legacy character who was ruined to make way for new characters that are not nearly as memorable.
Fuel _could_ be an issue, but it shouldn't be. A real-life nuclear-powered battleship can operate up to 20 years before needing to be refueled; in-universe, a capital ship can have up to 5 years worth of consumables. Are we _really_ supposed to believe that a single jump through lightspeed would deplete a warship's fuel reserves? Because the alternative would be the Resistance saying "oops, looks like we forgot to gas up before we left!" Which is equally moronic.
Fuel has been mentioned in Star Wars before TLJ. The one that immediately comes to mind is Qui-Gon Jinn on Tatooine in Episode I when he says "We'll need to land somewhere to refuel and repair the ship." Han also mentions fuel in one of the movies but I don't remember which one. They're just throwaway lines, though, and don't factor into the plot much at all.
And then in "Rise of Skywalker" we get "light-speed skipping" so I guess "fuel" is no longer a problem. (The real reason why this is happening is because JJ stole it from "Guardians of the Galaxy" because he thought it looked cool. It is literally as simple as that.)
You guys are all wrong. It's the introduction of hyperfuel for the hyperdrive. Fuel for the thrusters, like in the ot and pt are a separate system entirely.
Rian Johnson, I have never seen someone given such a concept/story rich set up, with most of difficult work in establishing characters and setting up interesting plot points and environments completed ( to a point that a blind man could see them) and manage to not only miss them completely, but to actively subvert them at the expense of the movie, while showing a complete disregard and for the subject matter of the film and total contempt of the expected audience. I hope one day someone comes and does the same thing to something you love like, WWII, or sucking up to critics who have already been paid by Disney.
MetaJoy it wasn’t Rian Johnson it was Colin Trevorrow and Disney. Disney hired Colin Trevorrow to write and direct the last Jedi who’s only credit was Jurassic World... Yeah... Rian Johnson actually wrote and directed Rouge One. Half way through last Jedi they brought Rian in because Colin fucked it up so bad but they didn’t want to give him credit for both because they would have had to pay him twice. That’s why Rian got his own trilogy. Because he took ownership of this piece of shit film he had really no part of.
I think Rian is just a nihilist, who likes to destroy things that other people have made. Think about the way he ended "The Last Jedi." At the end of the movie, the Rebellion has been reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon. He even goes out of his way to point out that the Rebels contacted the Republic for help and NO ONE was responding. Where can another writer possibly take things from there? If I was deliberately TRYING to f*ck up the franchise, "The Last Jedi" is exactly the kind of movie I'd make. Rian would rather be remembered as "that guy who f*cked up the Star Wars franchise" than to be forgotten.
Bro let's be honest, they were gonna kill off Snoke eventually either way; many people wanted to see Kylo (the vastly more interesting character) take the reigns of the Order. But we still need at least a quick flashback for Snoke's backstory, & I still dislike TLJ
I don't like his character. He is a better pilot than Annakin on steroids. Maybe he's force sensitive but c'mon. Plus the sarcastic, irreverant humor doesn't work for me. Star Wars for a new generation I guess. Not sure why they feel the need to abandon a winning formula though.
The ridiculousness of the situation isnt Poe trying to piss off the enemy Admiral its that the fucking Admiral is make to look like a fucking joke who falls into a petty prank call. Absolute udder ridiculous bullshit. Makes the First Order look like a joke rather than a real threat. If anyone thinks the Nazis in WW2 were incompetent retards like this Admiral is portrayed to be then we would of lost the war because the real deal was fucking intelligent, organized, mature, and prepared which is why they were a real fucking threat to taking over the world. It is just absurd they though this would be funny. Again you miss the point completely it isnt Poe that is the problem but the incompetency of the First Order leaders to fall for that shit. Even the Empire leaders and Admirals would shrug off Poe's foolish attempt to antagonize them.
Notice she went into a coma immediately afterwards? Rey had some training. This was the first time Leia ever used the force in her entire life, cut her some slack. She was practically half out of it when she carried herself back to the ship.
When I saw the underwater X-Wing, I was like "OOOOHHHHH YEAHHHHH LUKE IS GOING TO PULL THAT OUT AND FLY THAT AND DESTROY THE FIRST ORDER". Nope. It's just there. Nothing happens with it.
The Last Jedi Was Almost A Star Wars Movie - We Almost got to see a Lightsaber Duel - Those jokes were Almost funny - There was Almost an exciting chase through space - Somebody Almost sensed a disturbance in the Force - We Almost got dialog that fit the Star Wars universe - That Almost looked and moved like Yoda - Rey Almost got Jedi training - Supreme Leader Snoke Almost foresaw that coming - Finn and Rose Almost found a guy to help them - Two people Almost said "May the Force be with you" to each other - Chewbacca Almost ate a porg - We Almost heard someone say "I have a bad feeling about this" - Poe Almost committed mutiny - We Almost found out that Rey's parents were important - Finn Almost made it to the battering ram laser - Those Almost weren't the Droids we were looking for - It was Almost the Star Wars Holiday Special - It was Almost a script Mark Hamill agreed with - Rian Johnson Almost deserves an Academy award - Let's hope JJ Abrams doesn't Almost make a Star Wars movie with the next one The 'Almost' Was Strong With This One. It was Almost a Star Wars movie, but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Amen to this! It truly was an Almost film. And they seemed shocked fans were mad. Like “wha did u expect destroying and entire canon a film franchise and fantasy world is built around?!” It would be like filming a HP movie that had no wizards or muggles and calling it canon. That never works when used cheaply for shock value. What will they do now with fisher?! They had a chance to kill her character off and let it be an honorable thang... and missed it. They had a chance to make luke’s legacy count and not completely disrespect his entire contribution to the right side of the Force and good, and missed it. They coulda started some new love interests and missed it. They coulda given Snoke an actual storyline after building it up, but missed it. It all felt so cheesy and cheaply made. HP worked for Disney cuz they used JK as consultant and she approved of everything. But they basically raped GL for his franchise then didn’t allow him any consultant role to ensure the canon...
+Princess Lissy Was upheld... but they missed that too. Spent decades trying to acquire Lucasfilm for what?... they wanted that storyline and canon so badly for ages, once they got it, they decided not use any of it and make their own thang, so why did they bother buying the franchise just to destroy it? Makes no sense unless they were sure they could do it justice. The money is pointless if fans won’t see future films cuz of what they destroyed. They admitted the canon is GONE! We should take that to heart and say “ok, then we’ll wait till GL writes a new version of his SW and does it right.” He seemed sooooo sad about selling. He looked like he’d been bullied into it for so light he lost his fight. I had so loved Disney and hoped they would handle this right. They didn’t handle the deal right or the script and canon. No wonder fans are mad. They knew fans would be upset that Disney even acquired the franchise... so they knew they needed to bring it. They did with the first 2..
+Princess Lissy did they think a bait & switch wouldn’t be noticed by fans? I don’t get that. Film lovers aren’t dumb Consumers. They analyze and catch things others don’t. Sigh. 😔 I love Disney when they do what they do best: animated and princess movies and some family friendly series. But this mix everyone knew would be a bad idea. I had hoped they’d prove that notion wrong. They know how loyal SW fans are to Lucasfilm. They knew it was a delicate thing and that fans were praying they could make it work. All we wanted was a good movie and trilogy and to prove the Lucas deal wasn’t disrespectful to Lucasfilm. How could they mess all that up in ONE film. Lol. Yikes.
I had tears come to my eye when leia seemingly died. It would have been a very good scene, probably my favorite scene, and the only one done right, but instead she turns into Mary Poppins, and ruins the feel of the scene
The plot holes are obvious, it was all constructed to give more protagonism to females,in detriment of the story itself, just like Holdo no talling her plan just to make Poe (a man) look like a complete idiot and have a woman be in the right and be the one to save everyone just for the sake of it and because SJW pandering
u guys are just talking smack, the movie was amazing i mean did you see the scene where leiya flew through space like superman? i mean wow and did you see the lightsaber battle between luke and kylo? best two and a half seconds of all the star wars movies, ryan johnson did an amazing job he knew that no one wanted to see a proper light saber battle and also listened to all the fans when they cried out please kill off luke skywalker, the only thing the movie was missing was the dance scene from spiderman 3
conan barrett you can lift an X-wing with the force so pulling yourself in zero gravity shouldn't be hard at all. As far as her not freezing though....
@@NASkeywest How was her body not just immediately torn three ways to Sunday from the rather immediate and disastrous effects that the vacuum of space has on human physiology? How did she open the door from outside? Why, when the door opened, did she just pop in instead of being blown right the fuck back out along with everyone standing nearby?
"Chrome deflects lasers" "Why didn't they give everyone that sort of uniform" "They didn't have enough material." Because the idiots used it all to build Starkiller base.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Supreme Leader Snoke the Powerful? I thought not. It's not a story Disney would tell you. It's a fan legend. Snoke was the Supreme Leader of the First Order, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence and connect the minds of people across galaxies... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even force pull people through holograms. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his apprentice, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him while he was distracted while interrogating a Jedi. It's ironic... he could use the force to influence others from other galaxies, but not sense a lightsaber being manipulated right next to him. Is it possible to learn this origin story? Not from the Movies.
A couple scene like that were great.. but on the other hand how couldn't those scenes be great. Only thing new in this movie that was cool was the force skype calling, and the romantic tension between Rey and Kylo. Overall though so disappointing.
@@th3envyp238 if ppl feel they must see it despite hating tlj then i just hope they buy a ticket for a more deserving movie then simply walk into ep 9. That's what i intend on doing
@@th3envyp238 That'll be their loss, not mine. Episode 8 made it abundantly clear there was never an overall plan for this trilogy, which means Episode 9 is going to be whatever J.J. can MacGyver together from the scraps that Ryan didn't burn.
Dude. That was the first thought I had when she jumped in there and later had to go all the way back to the top of the island. I thought I was too critical and no one will see it the same. You are the first comment on the internet that shares the same thought. Nice, bro! :')
You are totally right with that. The thing is: The more I read about screenwriting and techiques to write a story, the more critical I am and the more I hate myself for being it. Because it disturbs the joy while watching something. -.-
Three years later and my mind is still completely boggled that 90% of this movie was green lit. Why did no one at at least make sure it was consistent with the other movies? How many people read this script and thought “This I great!” ? It hurts my brain to think about it
Yall need to rewatch the prequels again. The only real criticism of those films is the dialogue in my opinion. AS an example, the pod race was a unique, interesting, thrilling set piece. But more importantly, it had actual implications on the story; demonstrating Anakins strength with the force even as an untrained child, and serving as the 3rd stage in todorovs narrative theory for the characters arc on tatooine.
when critics say this is the most intellectual and thought provoking star wars movie they are alluding to the fact that they cant figure out how or why it was written so poorly.
Christopher Peaden Classic Example of "The Emperor's New Clothes". Reviewers don't want to admit they don't get it and it was awful, because of the peer pressure and not wanting to be the only one saying it was bad because then you're the stupid one. The fans are the kid saying "That man's not wearing any clothes."
No it's because the critisims against the movie are stupid at best and morons like you claiming it's awful doesn't mean it is. Stupidity is rip on youtube and people like you and Gucci show that even more.
Lothars comes to a video discussing the faults of the movie, to tell people in the comments that any criticism is stupid. Let's forget that you're not very bright, and address what you said. So, what, we can't have an opinion because it differs from yours? You're right, and we're wrong on something that's subjective? Why are you watching Star Wars? You should be in school.
I never got into Star Wars as a kid i only played Lego Star Wars I can say as a casual the pod racing seemed natural and fit in to the universe in my opinion
I didn’t jump on the whole ‘Disney is the death of Starwars’ bandwagon but holy shit! The film is a train wreck. I’m pretending this hasn’t happened... oh god!!!
I felt like I watched 4 boring movies in a row instead of one good movie. They cut back to that exterior shot of the chase scene about a dozen times, where the laser bolts from the Supremacy hit the Raddus' shields. And I thought, "oh yeah. THAT'S still going on, huh? Maybe Po will finally get a chance to- no he gets shat on again, despite being the only guy on board who actually has plans that work. Maybe if they come back to this scene later- nope they did it again. And again. And again. Is Holdo the villain here?"
I agree with you. Previous Star Wars films felt 'epic', as if each one was telling a different chapter in a grand story. Each movie was set a number of years after the previous one and covered pivotal events occurring over a week or so. Setting TLJ immediately after the previous film, and describing a period of only 14 hours, seems rather anticlimactic in comparison.
@@MrHarshverdhan that pissed me off they killed huim off screen they shouldve had him be the one to sucide bomb the star destroyer not some purple hair bitch nobody cares about
@@adad87821 Right!! He's been there since the Old Republic, but apparently he's not important enough. He commanded during the original resistance, but nah purple hair willy wonka over here can govern, because wahmen.
I believe they (Disney) will make another trilogy where they will try to explaining what Snoke is. After all Star Wars is their cash cow and they will milk it dry. Therefore they will not give any explanations in this trilogy.
The movie didn't reveal Snoke's backstory because it perfectly aligned with the theme. This movie is about the inevitability of failure. The absence of Snoke's backstory is basically saying no matter how powerful you are, you're still a nobody in the end. If you overestimated yourself, you're going to fall just like everyone else. TLJ has many flaws but Snoke isn't one of them.
@RookieN08 But that's silly. Snoke is an insanely important character with gaping questions around him. Where did he come from? He is a Sith Lord, obviously, and he is adhering to the Rule of Two, but then who was his master. The last two Sith Lords were Palpatine and Vader, and neither of them had any canonical apprentices. So again, where did this man, who single-handedly destroyed the Republic and created an Empire with huge fleets and superweapons, something that took freakin Palpatine decades of careful masterminding, in just a few short years, come from? What is he about? These are not trivial questions, these are the crucially important building blocks in this kind of story that get you an "F" in writing class if you miss them. So no, Snoke is not a "nobody". If he is, then the Emperor was a nobody as well, and while it's true he was in the same situation in the original trilogy, Palpatine didn't have to fit into a giant, mapped out canon. The least we can ask for is at least *some* info on the alleged big bad.
Really surprised you guys didn't go more into the Holdo maneuver. Honestly I think it's one of the largest sins in the movie...perhaps even larger than the complete and total assassination of Luke's character just because of the far-reaching ramifications. From what we see, a hyper-space ramming maneuver is apparently incredibly effective against spacecraft...are we supposed to believe that this is the first time that someone has stumbled across this in the thousands of years that hyper-space has existed? Military ramifications are often some of the first options explored with new technology...this changes the face of literally the ENTIRE Star Wars universe. There is literally NO WAY that such an effective tactic would NOT be exploited for war. This undermines every capital ship encounter in the lore, because we SHOULD be looking at a civilization which wages war with hyper-space missiles...and they wouldn't require the power of an entire star, or the size and mass of an entire planet to launch. Literally just build a massive slug of some sort of heavy metal, strap some engines, fuel tanks, a hyper-drive, and a guidance system to it, and bam...instant ship-killer...and possibly a planet-killer too if the slug is massive enough... (think hyper-speed meteor). The Death Stars? The battle of Coruscant? The blockade of Naboo? ALL SOLVED by hyper-space missiles. Not to mention there'd be no need to even build a Death Star when you can just slam a massive chunk of metal into a planet's crust at hyper-speed. This basically turns the matter of planetary destruction into child's play...anyone who can build a hyper-drive could do it. As a standalone movie, TLJ is okay...fun, funny...probably enjoyed by people who don't know what Star Wars is...the same way the movie Eragon was enjoyed by people who hadn't read the books. But, like the director of Eragon, it seems Rian Johnson read the Star Wars cliff-notes and couldn't be bothered with actually researching and respecting his source material. And those of us who DO know Star Wars (and there are a lot of us), know TLJ for the stinking dumpster-fire it has left within our beloved universe.
Admiral Ackbar should have been the one to sacrifice himself and go into hyperspace through the First Order ships and either you let Laura Dern character live for episode IX or you erase her from the movie entirely.
I agree, Ackbar deserved so much better than this, and it should have been either him or Leia to make the sacrifice at the end. What we got instead was a missed opportunity to do something interesting with Holdo and make her a First Order sympathizer but it turns out she was just in cahoots with Leia and they neglected to tell Poe for some reason.
Pro Gamer what you just said, is the prime reason smoke died so fast. He was never supposed to be the main villain at all. Him dying is a symbol of the with dying, and Kylo shaping his own destiny and identity outside of smoke and the with. not sure what movie you were watching if that wasn't obvious dude lol
The problem is not him dying, the problem is the WAY in which he died and without any explanation as to who the character was. We just get a mangled, incredibly powerful dark Force user pop up out of nowhere and then die in the second film.... Why did this character even need to exist then?
I love how all the fans absolutely lose their shit about the "somehow Palpatine returned" thing from Rise of Skywalker, when Rian Johnson did it first with "Somehow, the First Order controls the galaxy". Uhhhh...their headquarters that was a planet-sized Death Star and 100x more powerful was just blown up. How many trillions of credits did that cost them? Resources? Decades spent building it? They lost millions if not billions of their own guys. But apparently that didn't even matter in Rian Johnson's mind. It wasn't a problem at all, barely an inconvenience. Lmao he's such a poor director and writer. TLJ made no sense at all.
The difference is that Episode I's podracing scene is actually entertaining to watch and pretty cool. The weird cat and mouse game in space where the First Order just waits sloooowly for the Resistance ships to run out of fuel and pick off the ships one by one on the other hand, was stupid. They had overwhelming amounts of Star Destroyers, TIE fighters and that enormous flagship with impenetrable shields, yet why didn't the First Order just open fire and annihilate the rest of the Resistance fleet that couldn't even shoot back or flee? So stupid.
Literally, everyone in 2017: 37:21 - 37:25 "is there another threat we haven't seen? No, they wouldn't introduce that at the very last..." Everyone now: WTF the Emporer is back?
Excuse me, how did Vice Admiral Purple even hyperspace through Hux's ship when the First Order had already blown the bridge to smithereens? Remember with the whole 'Leia floating in Space' bit. That WAS how Admiral Ackbar died after all. Speaking of Admiral Ackbar, they should have made him do the sacrifice thing instead of Holdo. Can you imagine? First Order guy: General Hux, the Resistance cruiser is turning. It must be a diversion, right? Hux (notices its jumping to lightspeed): No, it's a trap! Admiral Ackbar: Allahu Ackbar!
This is so dumb. Everybody wants the new star wars to go the way THEY want it. There is literally no way the directors could please everyone. Get a job. Get a life and stfu
loool the new Star Wars didn't go the way ANYONE wanted it, no matter how much they lie and say they liked it. Also, if I put a comment that is directly relevant to the topic of a video ON the video, why does that mean I don't have a job or a life? Are you normal?
The Patient I agree with you, I don't want it to go the way I want, I just want it to be a good film. I'm not a writer, but I bet I can write a better story than what we did get.
If Fin's a janitor, why is he part of Ren's personal detail in VII? Did he blaster dust particles so well, that Kilo - walking out of a room he just "temper tantrumed" - saw the skill of Fin's dust kills as he walked by, and he's like "You! Protect me with your janitorial wizardry!... ... and clean up this sword-fucked room... someone left all fucked."
I wonder why they taught him to shoot if he was a janitor as well. He was on the planet so does everyone get to be on a planet once in their career just to experience one massacre or one ransacking of a town?
Its all that anti-lightsaber tech the Mandalorians made to combat Jedi. That baton was like the old vibroblades made to kill Jedi. Honestly when I saw the trailer, and how Finn was dressed, I thought he had become a Jedi as well and that was a lightsaber since the cut in the trailer was quick. I thought it would be cool to have Kilo fight them both. But then again I don't know how they would given that the lightsaber moves he uses are heavy and sluggish and lack speed in exchange for intimidation. I guess I'm spoiled, and I can't believe I'm admitting this, I think I'm spoiled by that Revenge of the Sith fight where everything was rather fast and coordinated that Kilo's moves just seem slow and exhausted.
Also the biggest plot hole I noticed when I first saw the film was that when rose 'saved' Finn, she could of single handily killed all the resistance if Luke did not show up. Finn was about to crash into the big gun destroying it and preventing the first order from getting into the base and buying them loads of time, but rose wanted to stop him, why? So that Disney can put in a shitty love story scene.
Midget Its so they can sell Finn toys, can't sell as many toys of a dead guy! Its just like George not killing Han. Look at porgs and ice cats, its all toys now. I get the original star wars was very sellable, but this is just blatant merchandizing.
because somtimes in the heat of the moment when the chips are down you are selfish when it involves someone who you may love? Because she wasnt thinking about anyone else but fin and herself and her feelings? and because thats normal no matter how anti hero that is. and thats just fine.
They should’ve made the first trilogy focus on the fall of Ben Solo to the dark side. He should’ve started as a young man, living during a period of peace in the Republic with the Empire gone for a few decades, then been struck with some severe family tragedy (that would involve Luke), and then fall into darkness, filled with hate, despair, and a craving for power fueled by revenge which would lead to the build up to another empire/conflict. Or perhaps not even a war? Make it a more intimate and personal story. It would be a good foundation as he’d be surrounded by family dynamics that could hold huge potential for great twists and reveals. Perhaps have the trilogy eventually culminating with Luke sacrificing himself at the end of the third movie out of love to save his nephew to be able to bring him to the light in his final act. That’s the ending Luke deserves.
I like this! But how about Luke sacrifices himself earlier. When confronted with this everyone thinks this will finally show Kylo the dark side is wrong, but instead it convinces him that the light side is weak and he commits fully to the dark side. It would be a better set up for him as a villain. he barely feels like a villain in these movies I mean he killed his dad but he's not scary at all.
Dont forget about the quickest plothole. Fin claims its impossible to tracks ships and a few lines later claims he knows where the device is that tracks them because he used to work right by it.
I hated the ship plot. Felt like a Clone Wars episode Edit: I didn’t mean to insult Clone Wars, it’s a very good show. I felt like the movie could’ve done better than do a stuck on a ship plot, which should only be for shows
Dave Filoni had to come up with shit like this because he was making countless episodes of a kids show. If he had written this movie, it would have been a freaking masterpiece compared to what Rian Johnson did. That guy has 1% of the understanding and lore knowledge Filoni has.
How to fix this film: STEP 1: Replace Holdo with Admiral Ackbar and have him hyperspeed ram through the fleet screaming "ITS A TRAP!!!" STEP 2: Win all of the Oscars.
Watch Mark Hamill before the World Premiere and how excited he was then watch how he looked after he watched the movie and was next to Rian Johnson. He looked shocked, mad, and in disbelief. Rian Johnson looked happy and Mark Hamill looked upset. I feel bad for Hamill. I don't think this film should be counted as canon just for the actors sakes and the fans sakes.
girl4mac4 Look up "sad Mark Hamill", or "Mark Hamill at premiere", there are a bunch of videos. Rian looks like a smug little troll, and Mark looks shocked. Then Mark turns and looks at Rian as if to say, "How could you do that?!"
FuzzzWuzzz He actually WAS surprised because Rian tweaked the film to have Luke Skywalker die the way he did. Which in turn shocked Mark because he saw how horrible his character was handled. Yeah he did film the scenes but i'm pretty sure Rian lied to Mark and told him that Luke would die heroicly.
Finn wanted to heroically sacrifice himself to save the rebels by flying his glider into the first order's death-cannon-thing, but Rose said "you know what's better than the rebels and no Finn? Neither of them, of course!" and crashed into him right in front of fucking everything the first order had. (and Finn is okay with it.) The fuck? That's probably my biggest problem with the movie (that or the constant unfunny and mood-killing humor). Rose as a character is ruined for me.
@Parzival Player One I'm not. I think she, as do the still living former cast, understand the TRUE fans will love them for their HONEST Star Wars work and not the Disney crap they likely got scammed into doing. They all likely loved the idea of bringing Star Wars back but NEVER would have signed up for coming back if they knew how badly Disney planned to ruin it. I believe they all understand how AMAZING we know they are. Luke and Leia will ALWAYS to me be the Luke and Leia from Legends.
@@user-on9sb1qj6o The problem isn't her use of the force, it is her using the force in a highly advanced way to survive an event that is stronger than other attacks that have killed fully trained Jedi. This is when there is little to no background shown of her actually receiving force training.
Highly advanced?? She was attracting herself to the ship panel she doesn't get down a star destroyer. Then do you think in about 30 years leia didn't has a force training??? No it's impossible maybe it will explained in TROS but there are much points of view
“I fundamentally disagree with every choice for Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi”-Mark Hamill
As does a fuck tone of actual Star Wars fans.
There are several clips of Mark Hamill questioning the direction of the new trilogy.
Oh my gosh stop taking this out of context. He said that when he first red the script he disagreed with his character's direction but eventually came around to it.
+FeebleBird903 It shows that his initial reservations were correct
FeebleBird903 That doesnt change the fact that he *originally* disagreed with it. He omly ever eventually accept it *months* after saying it *And* the fact that it apparently shocks and worries everyone from fans to even the director,Rian Johnson *Himself* .
So no. It's still actually quotable
George Lucas is like that ex girlfriend you start to miss and wonder if it was really that bad
issac garcia he really was that bad. His editors and his ex-wife rescued the first star wars film. It was a bloated mess. Lucas is a decent idea guy but should not direct or edit his own works.
There is a great video of the edit here on youtube.
And just like that ex you take her out one time just to see, only to discover it was much much worse than you remembered.
may you provide the link?
TheMythic out shopping on phone. Search RUclips for "star wars saved editing". I'll look for it later when back on pc.
I now like The Phantom Menace
"They wouldn't introduce a new threat in the last movie"
Aged like milk.
literally just commented this exact same thing and I didn't even see your comment lmaooooo
Zach Siebs or the “Rey’s parents are nobody’s” I laughed at that one
I was dying of laughter when they said that😂
Technically... There's no NEW threat 😄😄
JJ Abrams idea of "raising the stakes" is ALWAYS to take something from an earlier movie and x1000 it.
Rose: saving the ones you love is what war is all about.
Literally everyone: um thats what finn was trying to do.
@GrabberBythePuss Maybe that's why Luke went insane and started drinking... he saw the future
GrabberBythePuss O my god that’s true. Now I hate the movie even more
It's astounding to me how Rian Johnson is such a bad writer. Half of the shit that was said in TLJ makes zero sense. I really think there must be something wrong with people that defend this movie. I've never seen a movie that has more plot-holes and inconsistencies. It's embarrassing
Mark Hamill literally said he fundamentally disagreed with everything that happend to luke Skywalker. I know he Isnt a director but his word should carry some weight
They metaphorically chopped his sack off in The Last Jedi.
Honestly, Hamill deserved better than this. Unlike Harrison Ford, he wasn't sick of his role. He was happy to come back and play as Luke, but Rian just had to break that joy didn't he?
J.J. Abrams was first, with Force Awakens - Mark was excited about it until he learned he wasn't actually in it.
He was ready to risk his life infiltrating Death Star II to try to save Darth Vader. One of the most evil men in the galaxy. But in Last Jedi, his biggest regret was not killing a 15 year old boy who might turn evil in the future.
those quotes were taken out of context
This is what should've been done: instead of admiral purple hair, it should've been Ackbar who stayed behind on the Rebel Cruiser. He should've turned it towards the First Order fleet... they hail him...
First Order: ''Is this some sort of diversion?''
Ackbar: ''No. It's a trap''
* Boom *
but they wanted a female to be in charge because of women power. notice how so many leaders are females in this film.
I would've been able to die happily after that
David Harris it's normalization. It ain't propoganda, it's being casual about it
That would've been even cheesier than a lot of the jokes already in the movie.
LMAO
2019 and I'm still mad about that movie
Yup, ditto brother.
Only seen LJ once, never want to see it ever again and have zero desire to see ep 9. 🖕😑
Fucking hell me too.
not watching, watching TFA was enough to block myself from watching, and it's way more interesting to watch reviews ripping apart JJ and RUIN JOHNSON.
Yep, and its not just the this movie that is ruined, it also shits on episode 9
I like TFA, but TLJ just makes episode 9 underwhelming. I really hope they retcon the fuck out of TLJ in episode 9 so we can forget it even exists.
"How could Phasma survive that?"
The same way Palpatine survived, MARKETING.
Nothing's stronger than plot armour
I think the Casino did a good job representing EA
TheUnicorn LMFAO
TheUnicorn that little money creature above all else
😂😂😂
Sike you Thought that's Bungie and Activision
TheUnicorn agreed
Jar Jar Binks had more impact on the plot than Snoke did.
Icebergs can't cut steel hulls don't forget Chewie didn't have a role
jar jar binks was a sith mastermind
Jar jar was snoke
DJVEGAS1000 looool
Icebergs can't cut steel hulls Holy shit you're right!
37:25
Joe: "Is there another threat we haven't been introduced to? No they wouldnt do that in the third movie."
Disney: Hold my beer
2020 and this movie still pisses me off.
2021 and this movie still pisses me off 🤦🏾♂️
@@AJLeonard28 same here
Same
2022 and going...
2022 and I've still never see ROS because this movie was so terrible.
*Hi, I'm Luke Skywalker. Despite being perhaps the most powerful jedi to have existed, I died by force fart*
Ikr? Like wtf?
Love your scary story videos.
Tf. Did Obi Wan die because death Vader bested him? Or because he knew he could help Luke more by becoming one with the force? Did yoga really age like a couple hundred years and die from old age from ROTS and ANH? Doubt it. Just like them Luke died because it was no longer his role to physically be there to stop the dark. Besides. You ever seen anyone create and control a hologram with voice and perfect likeness from light years away? Sounds pretty next level to me.
He was never the most powerful jedi.
Joe Brooks the projection you're referring to with Snoke is simply a video phone call, generals on star destroyers in Empire talked to Vader via videolink
It's like Rian Johnson read all the fan theories, and then made it his mission to do the opposite to surprise us...at the cost of the movie...
Viral Killer I had the exact same thought.
that's exactly what I've been saying.... It's basically like if game of thrones would have been like "well everyone already figured out R+L=J, so lets not do that to surprise everyone at the expense of being a cohesive story"
Viral Killer .i thought the same thing
Viral Killer good screw fan theories
Viral Killer they completely did the opposite. They didn’t reveal snoke’s in the movie, they killed Luke to remove him from the franchise for no reason because Fisher died during the movie time(but hey lets see CGI Leia in episode 9...what a waste of money for episode 9)
Rian Jonson gets a hard-on from subverting expectations. It makes him feel like he's smarter than the entire world. But it's about as clever as a nine-year-old jumping out and going "Boo! Ha ha! Surprised you!"
Just because something is random doesn't mean it's clever.
Except he does have good ideas, Rey's twist is a twist pn the already common: I Am Your Father reveal, it's what we expect, so he once again challenges that expectation in an interesting way, because I don'g know about you, but having a hero who literally comes from nothing against this guy who came from heroes and became a hige villain is pretty cool, also he gave Luke a character arc instead of just amking him Yoda 2.0
I think Rian is just a nihilist, who wants to destroy what other people have made. I think the end of "The Last Jedi" proves this. At the end of the movie, the rebellion has been reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon. Rian even makes the point of saying that the Rebels contacted the Republic for help and NO ONE was responding. Where can another writer possibly take things from there? If I were deliberately TRYING to f*ck up the franchise, "The Last Jedi" is exactly the kind of movie I would make.
Diego De la Fuente lol gave Luke a character arc? His Luke is a completely different person and ignores his past character development. That’s not clever writing, it’s stupid.
@Shonksu Anakin had 10-13 years of training.
Luke had 4 years. Got his ass kicked by Vader. Then in ROTJ he made Vader realize the conflict in him he didn't outright overpower Vader.
Rey on the other hand was handed everything to her. Force abilities with no training. A year of training at most after TLJ. They had to cover their tracks and explain the force dyad, Ren transferring some of his powers to her, and her being a Palpatine
Very well said
When the director himself says that “you can’t focus on what the fans want” that’s when you know it’s gonna be a weak film with weaker direction
Nah Star Wars is done for me, oh and BB-8 has more kills than Luke and Snoke.
Off screen BB-8 does the things you think he should be doing.
Star Wars rule of law of 2017: The more something gets cute, cuddly and friendly the more badass that being gets in a fight.
Don't forget Thasma
lol thats a disturbingly good point
Nem Denemam Snoke and Kylo are lucky the rebels don't have an army of BB-8s. You what F@$! the Jedi, every rebel should be trained to fight like a BB-8 and wear cardboard boxes to look like one.
George Lucas: I think I fucked up the prequels. Disney: Hold my beer.
Disney didn't make these. It would be like blaming 20th Century Fox for Jar Jar. Disney doesnt write, direct, produce, cast...they play little to no role in making these movies. Rian Johnson is not Disney.
+Jason Harshman but the writers and director are all Disney’s choices. I’ve said from the beginning that rian Johnson was a shit choice for a director for a numbered Star Wars movie.
Still, don't you think its a bit unfair to pin EVERYTHING on Disney? Kathleen Kennedy IS the one responsible for all things Star Wars now, so if anything, shouldn't you pin things on her?
While I do see where you are coming from, do remember is an Lucasfilm production, which Kathleen Kennedy is in charge of. So, if you wanna blame anyone for what Rian did, blame her.
don't be so naive, they do take part in it, by making sure, the movie is more profitable, they do this with videogames, they do this with movies. Those tons of fucking animals for example is totally their doing!
As The Act Man once said, the second part in a trilogy is the most important because it follows up the previous part and sets up the final part. Say what you want about the prequals but from a fundamental stand point, AOTC is a better middle movie than TLJ. TLJ threw away nearly every plot point from TFA and gave no direction for episode 9 to go.
1. Luke is reduced to a hesitant jerk.
2. Too many twists and turns to count.
3. Disrespects the original films in terms of lore and history.
4. Mixing comedy into the serious moments.
5. (My personal issue), Finn is put into a very pointless side story with one character who is just there.
6. Wasting both actor Andy Serkis, and his character.
No 2. Was the biggest nail in the coffin, you have to balance surprises. You can't have a predictable movie but at the same time don't toss away all of the buildup. Guess which extreme Disney boy landed on? What a complete idiot.
Mark Hamill said it best, "They had time for me to milk an alien but not enough time for Luke to show any emotion." Another big issue, suddenly all that's needed to wipe out a fleet is one ship jumping to light speed? All this time, why has anyone wasted their time fighting with laser blasters or turbo lasers? Another problem, the Empire, First Order, has seemingly unlimited resources. Two Death Stars, Star Killer base, 4 full fleets, and yet they only seem to grow in size? Where does this all come from if Star Killer Base was wiped out? The last fleet that was wiped out had no effect because the next scene they were all down on the planet with no issue. I'll stop there but I could keep going.
David Pieper Seriously, wtf was that scene? That was some disgusting shit lol
The First Order is inconsistent. It's supposed to be a small remnant of the Empire's military yet with the destruction of Starkiller Base you think they should be broken as a fighting force beyond repair, with barely any ships left, since it seemd Starkiller Base was their main base of operations, yet somehow they still have a big enough fleet led by a massive flagship and thousands of stormtroopers to chase and destroy the remainder of the Resistance fleet which is even smaller and weaker than the remnant of the once mighty Imperial fleet?
the first deathstar at least made some sense.... the empire was in (full) control of an entire galaxy and they had at least two decades to build one deathstar, and that one just recently got finished when a new hope begins. so that made at least some sense. the second deathstar only makes sense if it was already in construction way before a new hope
The Luke wanting to kill Kylo shows how much they didn't understand Luke. They ruined him.
Mana Batala ikr where the fuck is the luke that was brave.who turned darth vader back to the light side it's really stupid how they ruined luke
They turned a character that still believed his father could be saved, even after he wiped out almost the entire Jedi order, brought back the Sith and spent years at Palpatine's side to someone who tried to kill his own grandson just because he felt some evil inside Ben.
TLJ was an absolute joke, ruined every character and ruined everything interesting about TFA.
@@NerevarOfficialReal i agree the TFA was interesting but the last jedi was just trash
And beside they killed snoke when like we didn't even know who he is
Mani Batala the sad thing is Ryan Johnson tweeted that he knows Luke sky walker more than anyone 🤦🏽♂️
Disney does not like villains they just want the good guy to win which sucks for story development. We need Darth Jar Jar
Love the fan theory on Darth Jar Jar.
Disney unlearnt into characters.
darth darth binks yeah !
If death jar jar actually happened it would blow everyone’s fucking minds and especially if he was smoke the whole time.
Darth Jar Jar, subverting our expectations!
When all of the ATATs fired at Luke, I first thought that when the dust cleared it would have been revealed that Luke had suspended all of the thousands of blaster rounds from the ATATs in midair just like Kylo did that one blaster round at the start of The Force Awakens. Then he could have force-pushed all of the rounds back at the ATATs, destroying them all and leaving the battlefield completely barren aside from him and Kylo.
Nah, that actually would've made sense and been awesome.
That would have been nice!
@@raymondvalasquez3992 not to me, hologram luke fits WAYYY better with the theme of Man and Myth, because no matter how much he trained or got powers, Luke as a man would never live up to the status of Luke The Legend, the warrior who defeated Darth Vader and Darth Sidious and destroyed the Empire, and thsi fits well, also when he fades away it's a nice callback to both Obi Wan and Han, with the "I will Always be with you" aswell as the "See You Around kid"
That scene was such a huge let down. I was hoping an epic battle between those two but nope. Missed opportunity.
That would've been so cool! And the shoulder brush would've just added to it bc Skywalker sass. xD
*The directors attitude to every previous Star Wars film can be summed up with what Luke does with the lightsaber Rey hands him.*
Orphican He must hate star wars. There's no other explenation.
he was desperately trying to make it his film so he could do the last one that's what it seems to me like I watch the actor interviews and reading before the lines it seems they much prefer JJ not saying he was perfect but way better than this director!
Airyed Kathleen Kennedy announced that Rian will have his own trilogy following episode IX.
MattLaRiv oh right I just an interview with daisy ridley saying she thought Rian was going to direct the last one and was happy when JJ got announced
That’s exactly what I said, that lightsaber is the legacy of Star Wars, and he tossed it off a cliff at the beginning of the movie.
That moment when you willingly watch an hour long youtube video over bashing the new Star Wars movie and you don't consider it a waste of time because the new Star Wars movie legitimately upset you that much.
Me.
second to that
seriously dude trying to calm down after watching that movie
I enjoyed this video because they don't hold back like the critics did.
Meeee
Happened with TFA so only watched spoilers and clips of the movie
This review is already better than the movie.
“They wouldn’t introduce a new threat for the final movie.”
Palpatine and the Final Order: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Connor King hahahaha
JJ isn't talented enough to create a new threat. His idea of "raising the stakes" is ALWAYS to take something from an earlier movie and x1000 it. Imagine him talking to the special effects guys:
JJ: "And each of these Star Destroyers will have Death Star Tech, so it will have a cannon capable of destroying an entire planet!"
SFX Guys: "JJ. did you even SEE 'Return of the Jedi?' The Death Star's reactor alone was MILES across! How do you fit that into a-"
JJ: "Death. Star. Tech!"
Lol the final order, really? (Didnt watch the last film)
Technically it's not a new threat
TFA: Luke leaves a map behind with R2 and his friend (Max Von Sydow) in case he's needed while he searches for Jedi lore.
TLJ: Luke's on some backwater planet trying to kill himself and has no idea how he was found
BRAVO RIAN
Luke never gave anyone a map. it never explained how he had part of a map to Skywalker.
Max Von Sydow was a friend of Luke's, he knew Kylo, remember? Also R2.
Johnny B ikr man I'm pissed
Welcome to shit writing everyone. This is DISNEY btw. Continuity etc is not their strong suit.
Chess RedEagle He put a map in R2.
Darth Vader murders the Jedi order, obiwan, innumerable beings across the galaxy for twenty odd years and younglings.
Luke: There's still good in him.
Kylo Ren has some evil dreams.
Luke: Well he's evil now, better kill him in his sleep.
Rudy Solomon III Luke didn’t know about what else his Father did, but he saw the potential for another Darth Vader. It’s not like he attempted to kill him, he did hesitate when he realized he was about to kill Kylo Ren.
Obiwan told Luke a good amount about the atrocities of Vader, perhaps not the younglings, but the Jedi and the various systems and he saw Obiwan die first hand.
Even though Luke had misgivings at the temple, he literally told Leia to her face Ben is beyond redemption and I'm going to end him.
Luke Skywalker was a hero because he did what his father could not and now he's just as corrupt, arrogant, hypocritical and misanthropic as the Republic Jedi.
Was he really that afraid of another Vader or was it Snoke that ignited that fear? He beat Vader through pacifism and appealing to his Light side. This is yet another legacy character who was ruined to make way for new characters that are not nearly as memorable.
I love this comment so much.
Cartoon Network be honest. Even Mark Hamil said the writing for Luke was uncharacteristic.
What a dumb comment
Bruh they didn't even mention how suddenly the concept of fuel is introduced for the first time in all of star wars
Fuel _could_ be an issue, but it shouldn't be. A real-life nuclear-powered battleship can operate up to 20 years before needing to be refueled; in-universe, a capital ship can have up to 5 years worth of consumables. Are we _really_ supposed to believe that a single jump through lightspeed would deplete a warship's fuel reserves?
Because the alternative would be the Resistance saying "oops, looks like we forgot to gas up before we left!" Which is equally moronic.
Fuel has been mentioned in Star Wars before TLJ. The one that immediately comes to mind is Qui-Gon Jinn on Tatooine in Episode I when he says "We'll need to land somewhere to refuel and repair the ship." Han also mentions fuel in one of the movies but I don't remember which one. They're just throwaway lines, though, and don't factor into the plot much at all.
It was discussed in the OT...
And then in "Rise of Skywalker" we get "light-speed skipping" so I guess "fuel" is no longer a problem. (The real reason why this is happening is because JJ stole it from "Guardians of the Galaxy" because he thought it looked cool. It is literally as simple as that.)
You guys are all wrong. It's the introduction of hyperfuel for the hyperdrive. Fuel for the thrusters, like in the ot and pt are a separate system entirely.
Rian Johnson, I have never seen someone given such a concept/story rich set up, with most of difficult work in establishing characters and setting up interesting plot points and environments completed ( to a point that a blind man could see them) and manage to not only miss them completely, but to actively subvert them at the expense of the movie, while showing a complete disregard and for the subject matter of the film and total contempt of the expected audience. I hope one day someone comes and does the same thing to something you love like, WWII, or sucking up to critics who have already been paid by Disney.
MetaJoy it wasn’t Rian Johnson it was Colin Trevorrow and Disney. Disney hired Colin Trevorrow to write and direct the last Jedi who’s only credit was Jurassic World... Yeah... Rian Johnson actually wrote and directed Rouge One. Half way through last Jedi they brought Rian in because Colin fucked it up so bad but they didn’t want to give him credit for both because they would have had to pay him twice. That’s why Rian got his own trilogy. Because he took ownership of this piece of shit film he had really no part of.
@@kurtrussell4527 Ouch, thanks for setting things straight, because credit should definitely go where it is due.
KurtRussell 4 kudos to you man, you actually came into this comment section and spewed bullshit and lies and @MetaJoy actually bought it. LMFAO.
KurtRussell 4 Rian Johnson didn’t direct Rogue One
I think Rian is just a nihilist, who likes to destroy things that other people have made. Think about the way he ended "The Last Jedi." At the end of the movie, the Rebellion has been reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon. He even goes out of his way to point out that the Rebels contacted the Republic for help and NO ONE was responding. Where can another writer possibly take things from there? If I was deliberately TRYING to f*ck up the franchise, "The Last Jedi" is exactly the kind of movie I'd make. Rian would rather be remembered as "that guy who f*cked up the Star Wars franchise" than to be forgotten.
I hope Phasma comes back in episode 9 and dies immediately in her first scene just so that becomes a running joke. What a fucking waste
Might as well now.
Oh my God, they killed Phasma! Those bastards!
Khanemis
She’s the Kenny of the new Star Wars films. Dies off every movie
oh my god, they killed phasma!
Next movie phasma comes back and gets crushed by a space station
When Rey gave the lightsaber to Luke at the beginning and he just tossed it. I immediately knew the writers did the same.
I think that's how Mark Hamill feels about this "new" franchise in general.
edgy
I don't understand why all the heroes have to die for the new ones to "take" their place.
I had heard he wasn't happy with Luke in this movie. Guess I had too see it for myself.
Heavens Dark Phoenix they do the exact same thing with the new marvel comics
The Last Jedi was more of a Star Wars parody than Space Balls
The fact that The Force Unleashed has more character depth, progression, and satisfaction than this movie is a troubling sign.
DUDE, just imagine the potential for a Force Unleashed movie
The biggest reason I’m disappointed with the last Jedi is if Rey was raised on a Desert planet how can she swim so well?
The Rogue Leader Cause she's Rey.
seriously? That's you're biggest disappointment? come on pls
😂😂😂
The Rogue Leader two words
Mary Sue
Cause Disney needs a strong female character who's great at many things with no explaination why.
Spaceballs was more Star Wars then Last Jedi lol
FrankDaTank420 ! Sad but true.
Lmao
Hell, the damn clothes ironing joke was too silly even by Spaceballs standards and they literally combed a desert
Now it makes sense they gave those storm troopers flamethrowers.
Let’s all petition to make spaceballs canon! Who’s with me?
33:44
“I know his every thought. I know he could never, never, ever betray me-OH GOD HE BETRAYED ME!”
Brooke Macbeth 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro let's be honest, they were gonna kill off Snoke eventually either way; many people wanted to see Kylo (the vastly more interesting character) take the reigns of the Order.
But we still need at least a quick flashback for Snoke's backstory, & I still dislike TLJ
You guys nailed every point of what is completely wrong with The Last Jedi.
That beginning bit between Poe and General Hux was like something out of Spaceballs rather than Star Wars
KarnevalAqua Kat No, poe has always been like that. It is his character, there is way worse comedy in the movie.
I agree. It's in character for Poe to joke around like that but they kept it going waaaaay too long.
I thought it was stupid. Starts the movie off with loss of credibility.
I don't like his character. He is a better pilot than Annakin on steroids. Maybe he's force sensitive but c'mon. Plus the sarcastic, irreverant humor doesn't work for me. Star Wars for a new generation I guess. Not sure why they feel the need to abandon a winning formula though.
The ridiculousness of the situation isnt Poe trying to piss off the enemy Admiral its that the fucking Admiral is make to look like a fucking joke who falls into a petty prank call. Absolute udder ridiculous bullshit. Makes the First Order look like a joke rather than a real threat. If anyone thinks the Nazis in WW2 were incompetent retards like this Admiral is portrayed to be then we would of lost the war because the real deal was fucking intelligent, organized, mature, and prepared which is why they were a real fucking threat to taking over the world. It is just absurd they though this would be funny. Again you miss the point completely it isnt Poe that is the problem but the incompetency of the First Order leaders to fall for that shit. Even the Empire leaders and Admirals would shrug off Poe's foolish attempt to antagonize them.
Leía can fly in space but can't lift rocks.
Mike, Dude, just stop.
Notice she went into a coma immediately afterwards? Rey had some training. This was the first time Leia ever used the force in her entire life, cut her some slack. She was practically half out of it when she carried herself back to the ship.
Mike Rivera who even fucking cares anymore ... Disney clearly doesn’t.
Carlos Guevara Star Wars lore is unclear and full of bullshit. When you have something as arbitrary as the force you can bullshit all you want.
They don't know how space works. She should of froze.
"You can be anybody and you can be a Jedi" was already true for prequels.
Now its more like, "Anybody can be as strong as a Skywalker"
Look at Ahsoka, Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, and Plo Koon
No training necessary
When I saw the underwater X-Wing, I was like "OOOOHHHHH YEAHHHHH LUKE IS GOING TO PULL THAT OUT AND FLY THAT AND DESTROY THE FIRST ORDER". Nope. It's just there. Nothing happens with it.
@G Money stfu
The Last Jedi Was Almost A Star Wars Movie
- We Almost got to see a Lightsaber Duel
- Those jokes were Almost funny
- There was Almost an exciting chase through space
- Somebody Almost sensed a disturbance in the Force
- We Almost got dialog that fit the Star Wars universe
- That Almost looked and moved like Yoda
- Rey Almost got Jedi training
- Supreme Leader Snoke Almost foresaw that coming
- Finn and Rose Almost found a guy to help them
- Two people Almost said "May the Force be with you" to each other
- Chewbacca Almost ate a porg
- We Almost heard someone say "I have a bad feeling about this"
- Poe Almost committed mutiny
- We Almost found out that Rey's parents were important
- Finn Almost made it to the battering ram laser
- Those Almost weren't the Droids we were looking for
- It was Almost the Star Wars Holiday Special
- It was Almost a script Mark Hamill agreed with
- Rian Johnson Almost deserves an Academy award
- Let's hope JJ Abrams doesn't Almost make a Star Wars movie with the next one
The 'Almost' Was Strong With This One. It was Almost a Star Wars movie, but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Amen to this! It truly was an Almost film.
And they seemed shocked fans were mad. Like “wha did u expect destroying and entire canon a film franchise and fantasy world is built around?!” It would be like filming a HP movie that had no wizards or muggles and calling it canon. That never works when used cheaply for shock value.
What will they do now with fisher?! They had a chance to kill her character off and let it be an honorable thang... and missed it. They had a chance to make luke’s legacy count and not completely disrespect his entire contribution to the right side of the Force and good, and missed it. They coulda started some new love interests and missed it. They coulda given Snoke an actual storyline after building it up, but missed it. It all felt so cheesy and cheaply made.
HP worked for Disney cuz they used JK as consultant and she approved of everything. But they basically raped GL for his franchise then didn’t allow him any consultant role to ensure the canon...
+Princess Lissy
Was upheld... but they missed that too. Spent decades trying to acquire Lucasfilm for what?... they wanted that storyline and canon so badly for ages, once they got it, they decided not use any of it and make their own thang, so why did they bother buying the franchise just to destroy it? Makes no sense unless they were sure they could do it justice. The money is pointless if fans won’t see future films cuz of what they destroyed. They admitted the canon is GONE! We should take that to heart and say “ok, then we’ll wait till GL writes a new version of his SW and does it right.” He seemed sooooo sad about selling. He looked like he’d been bullied into it for so light he lost his fight. I had so loved Disney and hoped they would handle this right. They didn’t handle the deal right or the script and canon. No wonder fans are mad. They knew fans would be upset that Disney even acquired the franchise... so they knew they needed to bring it. They did with the first 2..
+Princess Lissy did they think a bait & switch wouldn’t be noticed by fans? I don’t get that. Film lovers aren’t dumb Consumers. They analyze and catch things others don’t. Sigh. 😔 I love Disney when they do what they do best: animated and princess movies and some family friendly series. But this mix everyone knew would be a bad idea. I had hoped they’d prove that notion wrong. They know how loyal SW fans are to Lucasfilm. They knew it was a delicate thing and that fans were praying they could make it work. All we wanted was a good movie and trilogy and to prove the Lucas deal wasn’t disrespectful to Lucasfilm. How could they mess all that up in ONE film. Lol. Yikes.
And I almost finished reading your really long list of almosts ;)
why didnt a sith write this? i hear they deal in absolutes
I had tears come to my eye when leia seemingly died. It would have been a very good scene, probably my favorite scene, and the only one done right, but instead she turns into Mary Poppins, and ruins the feel of the scene
Yeah, I was pretty confused at that too. It still puzzles me how they thought that was a good idea.
The plot holes are obvious, it was all constructed to give more protagonism to females,in detriment of the story itself, just like Holdo no talling her plan just to make Poe (a man) look like a complete idiot and have a woman be in the right and be the one to save everyone just for the sake of it and because SJW pandering
She was “Sky-walking”, that’s where the name comes from.
I don't mind that she used the force to save herself but the way it looked was really weird
@@tangerinetech5300 you mean after she got blown up and sucked into the vacuum of space somehow survived then can fly?
u guys are just talking smack, the movie was amazing i mean did you see the scene where leiya flew through space like superman? i mean wow and did you see the lightsaber battle between luke and kylo? best two and a half seconds of all the star wars movies, ryan johnson did an amazing job he knew that no one wanted to see a proper light saber battle and also listened to all the fans when they cried out please kill off luke skywalker, the only thing the movie was missing was the dance scene from spiderman 3
They got us in the first half I ain't gonna lie
nice fanboy commenting there mixed with sarcasm. lol
conan barrett you can lift an X-wing with the force so pulling yourself in zero gravity shouldn't be hard at all. As far as her not freezing though....
@@NASkeywest How was her body not just immediately torn three ways to Sunday from the rather immediate and disastrous effects that the vacuum of space has on human physiology? How did she open the door from outside? Why, when the door opened, did she just pop in instead of being blown right the fuck back out along with everyone standing nearby?
@@bismo_funyuns8684 Yeah it did until the proper lightsaber battle part
"Chrome deflects lasers"
"Why didn't they give everyone that sort of uniform"
"They didn't have enough material."
Because the idiots used it all to build Starkiller base.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Supreme Leader Snoke the Powerful? I thought not. It's not a story Disney would tell you. It's a fan legend. Snoke was the Supreme Leader of the First Order, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence and connect the minds of people across galaxies... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even force pull people through holograms. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his apprentice, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him while he was distracted while interrogating a Jedi. It's ironic... he could use the force to influence others from other galaxies, but not sense a lightsaber being manipulated right next to him.
Is it possible to learn this origin story?
Not from the Movies.
Now ive heard it all
The best scene in the whole movie was when R2D2 and Luke reunited
A couple scene like that were great.. but on the other hand how couldn't those scenes be great. Only thing new in this movie that was cool was the force skype calling, and the romantic tension between Rey and Kylo. Overall though so disappointing.
B McMinn The only actually touching moment throughout the whole movie. Was a great scene in a very lackluster film.
I agree, the only time we got to see the 'real' Luke
I love how Rey can move some rocks after 1 lesson on the force while Luke struggled to get his lightsaber when it was 5 feet away
Yeah, that's a Mary Sue for you!
Every time I think of re-watching The Last Jedi I come back to this
Same it’s on Netflix
the Leia scene was the funniest joke of the whole movie.
Lucas Allen nah, snoke moving rey around while she talked, i laughed in the cinema XD she looked like she was on a treadmill XD
+Marauder623 Rey in general is a joke.
Mary Poppins princess in space
She's Mary Poppins y'all!
I feel so sorry for Carrie Fisher, she has always feared her legacy was the Golden Bikini. Now, she is a friggin meme. I hope she can RIP
Luke died from crippling diabetes after drinking too much nipple milk.
Gabriel Magister all milk is nipple milk
Gabriel Magister ahhahah 😂😂
Roswell BlackRose yup, RIP Lucasfilm
lmfao im in tears !!!!
like a boss
Goddamn, I miss Spaceballs SO BAD.
Jonathan Ju 🤣😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣💯
who else is watching this after the episode 9 trailer dropped?
boycott ep 9 to teach kathleen and those losers at the new lucasfilm a lesson
@@johngoldfield6602 Yeah right....idiots are gonna flock to spend their money
@@th3envyp238 if ppl feel they must see it despite hating tlj then i just hope they buy a ticket for a more deserving movie then simply walk into ep 9. That's what i intend on doing
@@th3envyp238 That'll be their loss, not mine. Episode 8 made it abundantly clear there was never an overall plan for this trilogy, which means Episode 9 is going to be whatever J.J. can MacGyver together from the scraps that Ryan didn't burn.
@@travissmith5994 hey man you're just preaching to the choir over here...I haven't even watched TLJ
luke sums up the movie perfectly in the trailers...."this is not going to go the way you think"
guitarman0365 actually I expected it to be shit
wayne Jacobs well..
Not the way you think as in some twists in the story. Even if you expected it to be bad you didn't expect snoke dying.
True af. I thought it would be the best film in the saga.
It didn't go the way I thought.
The line should've been "This is not going to go the way you think.....and NOT in a good way"
I didn't think it would be great but not this bad.
Also how the fuck did Rey know how to swim? She was raised, by herself. On a planet DEVOID OF BODIES OF WATER.
Christian Williamson I don’t remember a swimming scene in the movie
when she jumped into the pit
Dude. That was the first thought I had when she jumped in there and later had to go all the way back to the top of the island.
I thought I was too critical and no one will see it the same. You are the first comment on the internet that shares the same thought. Nice, bro! :')
That’s why I stopped being critical at the movies. They Bungle so much up that if I keep track it ruins it for me.
You are totally right with that. The thing is: The more I read about screenwriting and techiques to write a story, the more critical I am and the more I hate myself for being it. Because it disturbs the joy while watching something. -.-
17:55 "Rey's parents are nobodys! She is a nobody!"
Rise of Skywalker: "bet"
Luke's behavior was unacceptable sucking nipples in front of a lady like Rey...
Rey's parents sold Rey for some of them deathsticks
I would have too.
Rey is garbage.
Savage.
They wanted to go home and rethink their lives after having to deal with Rey for ten minutes.
Best explanation
RatioTile "Wanna buy some death sticks?"
"Sure, here's a kid."
Three years later and my mind is still completely boggled that 90% of this movie was green lit. Why did no one at at least make sure it was consistent with the other movies? How many people read this script and thought “This I great!” ? It hurts my brain to think about it
Yall need to rewatch the prequels again. The only real criticism of those films is the dialogue in my opinion.
AS an example, the pod race was a unique, interesting, thrilling set piece. But more importantly, it had actual implications on the story; demonstrating Anakins strength with the force even as an untrained child, and serving as the 3rd stage in todorovs narrative theory for the characters arc on tatooine.
Fexterity Episode 1 underrated change my mind 🤷🏼♂️
The dialogue isn't bad in the prequels, it's written to be like a 1930s serial.
when critics say this is the most intellectual and thought provoking star wars movie they are alluding to the fact that they cant figure out how or why it was written so poorly.
Christopher Peaden Classic Example of "The Emperor's New Clothes". Reviewers don't want to admit they don't get it and it was awful, because of the peer pressure and not wanting to be the only one saying it was bad because then you're the stupid one. The fans are the kid saying "That man's not wearing any clothes."
It might be more that Disney is telling them: "Review nicely or else you're not getting invited to any previews anymore."
No it's because the critisims against the movie are stupid at best and morons like you claiming it's awful doesn't mean it is. Stupidity is rip on youtube and people like you and Gucci show that even more.
Lothars comes to a video discussing the faults of the movie, to tell people in the comments that any criticism is stupid. Let's forget that you're not very bright, and address what you said. So, what, we can't have an opinion because it differs from yours? You're right, and we're wrong on something that's subjective? Why are you watching Star Wars? You should be in school.
It was way too much SJW bs.
Skywalker deserved much better
Yep this Star wars ain't even star wars.
but the EU doesn't matter as it was all thrown out, so everything he accomplished there NEVER happened in the CU
I’m pretty sure he’ll be back as a force ghost, but I agree he deserved a more glorious death.
This movie is not star wars at all and luke is so not luke at all
Just have Jon Favreau make all future Star Wars Movies. Mandalorian is the best since rouge one
The pod race in my opinion was very much Star Wars, however the casino scene was 10 times worse then any scene in Star Wars yet
I never got into Star Wars as a kid i only played Lego Star Wars I can say as a casual the pod racing seemed natural and fit in to the universe in my opinion
I didn’t jump on the whole ‘Disney is the death of Starwars’ bandwagon but holy shit! The film is a train wreck. I’m pretending this hasn’t happened... oh god!!!
Maybe you should have, lol.
It feels like 2 out of the 3 films have been made already and the plot hasn't advanced at all.
Plot? What plot? The plot has not even started yet.
UB3RFR3NZY lol in kinda of it is, Disney more or less is rehashing and spoon feeding us a bad imitation of the original trilogy
padme is 14 in TPM Anakin is 10
I felt like I watched 4 boring movies in a row instead of one good movie. They cut back to that exterior shot of the chase scene about a dozen times, where the laser bolts from the Supremacy hit the Raddus' shields. And I thought, "oh yeah. THAT'S still going on, huh? Maybe Po will finally get a chance to- no he gets shat on again, despite being the only guy on board who actually has plans that work. Maybe if they come back to this scene later- nope they did it again. And again. And again. Is Holdo the villain here?"
I agree with you. Previous Star Wars films felt 'epic', as if each one was telling a different chapter in a grand story. Each movie was set a number of years after the previous one and covered pivotal events occurring over a week or so. Setting TLJ immediately after the previous film, and describing a period of only 14 hours, seems rather anticlimactic in comparison.
September 2019- 44% audience rating...
Joe: Theres no way she could have survived being engulfed in flames.
Darth Vader: Am I a joke to you?
The Last Jedi was a trap!! That's why they eliminated Ackbar, so he couldn't warn us... RIP Admiral 😨
Man being killed off like a background character....he was not to fans.
harsh Verma the fans
“That was not very cash money of you”
@@MrHarshverdhan that pissed me off they killed huim off screen they shouldve had him be the one to sucide bomb the star destroyer not some purple hair bitch nobody cares about
@@adad87821 Right!! He's been there since the Old Republic, but apparently he's not important enough. He commanded during the original resistance, but nah purple hair willy wonka over here can govern, because wahmen.
@@Rob.N. He was?
To know the story about Snoke, you have to buy some lootboxes...
Hyandur you already made this comment nub.
I believe they (Disney) will make another trilogy where they will try to explaining what Snoke is. After all Star Wars is their cash cow and they will milk it dry. Therefore they will not give any explanations in this trilogy.
Just saying but Rian Johnson himself said in an interview that he wouldn't go on Snoke's backstory for The Last Jedi.
The movie didn't reveal Snoke's backstory because it perfectly aligned with the theme. This movie is about the inevitability of failure. The absence of Snoke's backstory is basically saying no matter how powerful you are, you're still a nobody in the end. If you overestimated yourself, you're going to fall just like everyone else. TLJ has many flaws but Snoke isn't one of them.
@RookieN08 But that's silly. Snoke is an insanely important character with gaping questions around him. Where did he come from? He is a Sith Lord, obviously, and he is adhering to the Rule of Two, but then who was his master. The last two Sith Lords were Palpatine and Vader, and neither of them had any canonical apprentices. So again, where did this man, who single-handedly destroyed the Republic and created an Empire with huge fleets and superweapons, something that took freakin Palpatine decades of careful masterminding, in just a few short years, come from? What is he about? These are not trivial questions, these are the crucially important building blocks in this kind of story that get you an "F" in writing class if you miss them.
So no, Snoke is not a "nobody". If he is, then the Emperor was a nobody as well, and while it's true he was in the same situation in the original trilogy, Palpatine didn't have to fit into a giant, mapped out canon. The least we can ask for is at least *some* info on the alleged big bad.
Watching this 2 years later. Joe: "they wouldn't bring in a new villain in the last movie." Me in the present. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really surprised you guys didn't go more into the Holdo maneuver. Honestly I think it's one of the largest sins in the movie...perhaps even larger than the complete and total assassination of Luke's character just because of the far-reaching ramifications.
From what we see, a hyper-space ramming maneuver is apparently incredibly effective against spacecraft...are we supposed to believe that this is the first time that someone has stumbled across this in the thousands of years that hyper-space has existed? Military ramifications are often some of the first options explored with new technology...this changes the face of literally the ENTIRE Star Wars universe. There is literally NO WAY that such an effective tactic would NOT be exploited for war. This undermines every capital ship encounter in the lore, because we SHOULD be looking at a civilization which wages war with hyper-space missiles...and they wouldn't require the power of an entire star, or the size and mass of an entire planet to launch.
Literally just build a massive slug of some sort of heavy metal, strap some engines, fuel tanks, a hyper-drive, and a guidance system to it, and bam...instant ship-killer...and possibly a planet-killer too if the slug is massive enough... (think hyper-speed meteor). The Death Stars? The battle of Coruscant? The blockade of Naboo? ALL SOLVED by hyper-space missiles. Not to mention there'd be no need to even build a Death Star when you can just slam a massive chunk of metal into a planet's crust at hyper-speed. This basically turns the matter of planetary destruction into child's play...anyone who can build a hyper-drive could do it.
As a standalone movie, TLJ is okay...fun, funny...probably enjoyed by people who don't know what Star Wars is...the same way the movie Eragon was enjoyed by people who hadn't read the books. But, like the director of Eragon, it seems Rian Johnson read the Star Wars cliff-notes and couldn't be bothered with actually researching and respecting his source material. And those of us who DO know Star Wars (and there are a lot of us), know TLJ for the stinking dumpster-fire it has left within our beloved universe.
this doesn't exactly feel like film criticism
Admiral Ackbar should have been the one to sacrifice himself and go into hyperspace through the First Order ships and either you let Laura Dern character live for episode IX or you erase her from the movie entirely.
Or princess lea
Ackbar should have been the leader after Leia. But noooo miss random purple hair lady was much important. Lame shit.
I agree, Ackbar deserved so much better than this, and it should have been either him or Leia to make the sacrifice at the end. What we got instead was a missed opportunity to do something interesting with Holdo and make her a First Order sympathizer but it turns out she was just in cahoots with Leia and they neglected to tell Poe for some reason.
This....
Everyman's nightmare STING!!!!!
Snoke’s existence is about as pointless as that spin obi wan did against darth Vader in A New Hope
If he had a bigger part than we would just have another Palpatine character. I'm glad they went a different route.
Pro Gamer what you just said, is the prime reason smoke died so fast. He was never supposed to be the main villain at all. Him dying is a symbol of the with dying, and Kylo shaping his own destiny and identity outside of smoke and the with. not sure what movie you were watching if that wasn't obvious dude lol
K McKee You butchered the shit out of your paragraph.
The problem is not him dying, the problem is the WAY in which he died and without any explanation as to who the character was.
We just get a mangled, incredibly powerful dark Force user pop up out of nowhere and then die in the second film.... Why did this character even need to exist then?
Lol
“I know his every thought, I know he could never ever ever betray me. Oh god he betrayed me”
Perfect summary 😂
I love how all the fans absolutely lose their shit about the "somehow Palpatine returned" thing from Rise of Skywalker, when Rian Johnson did it first with "Somehow, the First Order controls the galaxy".
Uhhhh...their headquarters that was a planet-sized Death Star and 100x more powerful was just blown up. How many trillions of credits did that cost them? Resources? Decades spent building it? They lost millions if not billions of their own guys. But apparently that didn't even matter in Rian Johnson's mind. It wasn't a problem at all, barely an inconvenience. Lmao he's such a poor director and writer. TLJ made no sense at all.
The way Luke reacts to Rey giving him his old lightsaber is the way Johnson dealt with all our burning questions from the Force Awakens.
To which I say, good riddance. I hated how JJ Abrams turned "Star Wars" into a TV pilot with a hundred BURNING QUESTIONS.
+James Van Fleet Well Rian had the chance to answer them but said to hell with it.
Bro the prequels are masterpieces compared to this.
When they were like "it's pod racing all over again." I'm like "no, pod racing at least is a great way to test my sound system. This is just useless"
The difference is that Episode I's podracing scene is actually entertaining to watch and pretty cool. The weird cat and mouse game in space where the First Order just waits sloooowly for the Resistance ships to run out of fuel and pick off the ships one by one on the other hand, was stupid. They had overwhelming amounts of Star Destroyers, TIE fighters and that enormous flagship with impenetrable shields, yet why didn't the First Order just open fire and annihilate the rest of the Resistance fleet that couldn't even shoot back or flee? So stupid.
No they're really not,two of them at least.
Both tpm, and aotc
Vice Stojčić I liked the prequels. It was really just Anakin’s development that sucked. Otherwise, it was really interesting
Literally, everyone in 2017: 37:21 - 37:25 "is there another threat we haven't seen? No, they wouldn't introduce that at the very last..."
Everyone now: WTF the Emporer is back?
The force was wrong with this one!
Snoke was half the man he used to be
👏👏👏👏
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MadDa Dog
You win a million likes. RUclips just wont let me. Communists.
I'm flattered ^^
Weeell I'm haaalf the man I uuuuused to be
Excuse me, how did Vice Admiral Purple even hyperspace through Hux's ship when the First Order had already blown the bridge to smithereens? Remember with the whole 'Leia floating in Space' bit. That WAS how Admiral Ackbar died after all. Speaking of Admiral Ackbar, they should have made him do the sacrifice thing instead of Holdo. Can you imagine?
First Order guy: General Hux, the Resistance cruiser is turning. It must be a diversion, right?
Hux (notices its jumping to lightspeed): No, it's a trap!
Admiral Ackbar: Allahu Ackbar!
Good point but one problem, he's not a female so he can't be "catered" to much.
This is so dumb. Everybody wants the new star wars to go the way THEY want it. There is literally no way the directors could please everyone. Get a job. Get a life and stfu
loool the new Star Wars didn't go the way ANYONE wanted it, no matter how much they lie and say they liked it. Also, if I put a comment that is directly relevant to the topic of a video ON the video, why does that mean I don't have a job or a life? Are you normal?
The Patient I agree with you, I don't want it to go the way I want, I just want it to be a good film. I'm not a writer, but I bet I can write a better story than what we did get.
"It's a trap"
I actually fucking hate how they just killed Ackbar like a background character.
Rose: I am officially the worst Star Wars character
Admiral Holdo: Holdo my Almondmilk Frappuccino
Phasma gets beat by a janitor
Twice
If Fin's a janitor, why is he part of Ren's personal detail in VII? Did he blaster dust particles so well, that Kilo - walking out of a room he just "temper tantrumed" - saw the skill of Fin's dust kills as he walked by, and he's like "You! Protect me with your janitorial wizardry!... ... and clean up this sword-fucked room... someone left all fucked."
I wonder why they taught him to shoot if he was a janitor as well. He was on the planet so does everyone get to be on a planet once in their career just to experience one massacre or one ransacking of a town?
A janitor that smacked her around with a stick.
Fuck, the riot baton is more badass than the lightsabers in this new trilogy.
Its all that anti-lightsaber tech the Mandalorians made to combat Jedi. That baton was like the old vibroblades made to kill Jedi. Honestly when I saw the trailer, and how Finn was dressed, I thought he had become a Jedi as well and that was a lightsaber since the cut in the trailer was quick. I thought it would be cool to have Kilo fight them both. But then again I don't know how they would given that the lightsaber moves he uses are heavy and sluggish and lack speed in exchange for intimidation. I guess I'm spoiled, and I can't believe I'm admitting this, I think I'm spoiled by that Revenge of the Sith fight where everything was rather fast and coordinated that Kilo's moves just seem slow and exhausted.
Also the biggest plot hole I noticed when I first saw the film was that when rose 'saved' Finn, she could of single handily killed all the resistance if Luke did not show up. Finn was about to crash into the big gun destroying it and preventing the first order from getting into the base and buying them loads of time, but rose wanted to stop him, why? So that Disney can put in a shitty love story scene.
Midget Its so they can sell Finn toys, can't sell as many toys of a dead guy! Its just like George not killing Han. Look at porgs and ice cats, its all toys now. I get the original star wars was very sellable, but this is just blatant merchandizing.
Film heavily hits onto asian market,too many of them in this film
Yo, why didn't the AT-ATs open fire on the wreckage lmaoooo
because somtimes in the heat of the moment when the chips are down you are selfish when it involves someone who you may love? Because she wasnt thinking about anyone else but fin and herself and her feelings? and because thats normal no matter how anti hero that is. and thats just fine.
Midget yep Finn could’ve been the savior of the resistance but nope we gotta have a shitty love plot
They should’ve made the first trilogy focus on the fall of Ben Solo to the dark side.
He should’ve started as a young man, living during a period of peace in the Republic with the Empire gone for a few decades, then been struck with some severe family tragedy (that would involve Luke), and then fall into darkness, filled with hate, despair, and a craving for power fueled by revenge which would lead to the build up to another empire/conflict. Or perhaps not even a war? Make it a more intimate and personal story. It would be a good foundation as he’d be surrounded by family dynamics that could hold huge potential for great twists and reveals.
Perhaps have the trilogy eventually culminating with Luke sacrificing himself at the end of the third movie out of love to save his nephew to be able to bring him to the light in his final act. That’s the ending Luke deserves.
I like this! But how about Luke sacrifices himself earlier. When confronted with this everyone thinks this will finally show Kylo the dark side is wrong, but instead it convinces him that the light side is weak and he commits fully to the dark side. It would be a better set up for him as a villain. he barely feels like a villain in these movies I mean he killed his dad but he's not scary at all.
Dont forget about the quickest plothole. Fin claims its impossible to tracks ships and a few lines later claims he knows where the device is that tracks them because he used to work right by it.
Or how they got a technical readout of the supremacy
I mean come on, the last time they had to get the technical readout of something it took a whole movie.
@@razzamatronic9882 ah exactly, great point.
I hated the ship plot. Felt like a Clone Wars episode
Edit: I didn’t mean to insult Clone Wars, it’s a very good show. I felt like the movie could’ve done better than do a stuck on a ship plot, which should only be for shows
The Lone Drone it was hunt for Red october basically
Don't insult Clone Wars by comparing it to this trash.
My thoughts exactly. Even Dave filoni wouldn’t come up with a plot this weak.
Dave Filoni had to come up with shit like this because he was making countless episodes of a kids show. If he had written this movie, it would have been a freaking masterpiece compared to what Rian Johnson did. That guy has 1% of the understanding and lore knowledge Filoni has.
The whole movie felt like an episodes of rebels
Rose officially unseated Jar Jar Binks as the most useless and annoying character in star wars
Golden Spike Tactical I loved jar jar!
Golden Spike Tactical useless lmao you dumbshit shes a engineer in the command ship I think that's fucking important
Everyone loves me
Ser Josh and what's of it? Her role was so insignificant not to mention lack of personality.
Agreed
2023 and I still hate this movie
"There is soo much going on here! It's breaks new grounds!!!"
If only Mel Brooks was still alive... that could have been a sequel worth watching.
Dreimar 9 months later Mel Brooks is still alive.
How to fix this film:
STEP 1: Replace Holdo with Admiral Ackbar and have him hyperspeed ram through the fleet screaming "ITS A TRAP!!!"
STEP 2: Win all of the Oscars.
Christopher Richards PERFECT
Christopher Richards Yes YES 1000 TIMES YES
Except the actor playing Ackbar died
truth
Watch Mark Hamill before the World Premiere and how excited he was then watch how he looked after he watched the movie and was next to Rian Johnson. He looked shocked, mad, and in disbelief. Rian Johnson looked happy and Mark Hamill looked upset. I feel bad for Hamill. I don't think this film should be counted as canon just for the actors sakes and the fans sakes.
Where can I see that?
Too shitty to be cannon.
Yes, there's a Change petition to remove this movie from canon. I feel so bad for Mark. Rian treated Luke like trash.
girl4mac4 Look up "sad Mark Hamill", or "Mark Hamill at premiere", there are a bunch of videos. Rian looks like a smug little troll, and Mark looks shocked. Then Mark turns and looks at Rian as if to say, "How could you do that?!"
FuzzzWuzzz He actually WAS surprised because Rian tweaked the film to have Luke Skywalker die the way he did. Which in turn shocked Mark because he saw how horrible his character was handled. Yeah he did film the scenes but i'm pretty sure Rian lied to Mark and told him that Luke would die heroicly.
Killing off snoke so soon was the part I was most disappointed with. I really wanted to find out more about snoke but we got nothing.
Finn wanted to heroically sacrifice himself to save the rebels by flying his glider into the first order's death-cannon-thing, but Rose said "you know what's better than the rebels and no Finn? Neither of them, of course!" and crashed into him right in front of fucking everything the first order had. (and Finn is okay with it.)
The fuck?
That's probably my biggest problem with the movie (that or the constant unfunny and mood-killing humor). Rose as a character is ruined for me.
Flying Leia "I'm Mary Poppins, Y'all!"
Yeah, Leia, who WAS a strong woman, now is a joke in the Star Wars universe. Great job Disney
@Parzival Player One I'm not. I think she, as do the still living former cast, understand the TRUE fans will love them for their HONEST Star Wars work and not the Disney crap they likely got scammed into doing. They all likely loved the idea of bringing Star Wars back but NEVER would have signed up for coming back if they knew how badly Disney planned to ruin it. I believe they all understand how AMAZING we know they are. Luke and Leia will ALWAYS to me be the Luke and Leia from Legends.
Leia can use the force. The scene can be show as better but leiabcan use the force
@@user-on9sb1qj6o The problem isn't her use of the force, it is her using the force in a highly advanced way to survive an event that is stronger than other attacks that have killed fully trained Jedi. This is when there is little to no background shown of her actually receiving force training.
Highly advanced?? She was attracting herself to the ship panel she doesn't get down a star destroyer. Then do you think in about 30 years leia didn't has a force training??? No it's impossible maybe it will explained in TROS but there are much points of view