Ikr? some people defending this shitty ending are like "Ellie didn't kill Abby because she needed to end the cycle of revenge" but they ignore that she actually made it worse, and I'm sure families from those people that Ellie killed because of Abby, they now will try to kill Ellie.
"Double blacklist him. No... triple blacklist him" "No... not triple blacklisting him. Show some mercy sir". "You heard what I said. Or Abby will come after you next"
Disappointed and fucking pissed off with how fucking stupid this games story was. Dropped all respect that was built up in the first game just to shove a shit stain new character that's not interesting at all and made Joel look like a fucking idiot.
@@crimsonghoul8983 *Revelation 3:20* Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless. Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
You play 20 hours as Karen wanting to talk to the manager at Mr Peanut. After murdering his family in front of him, the camera fades out as Karen eats a bag of peanuts and cries.
Will Silapheth right bro like I've never had a PlayStation except for my dad's PSP and even I'd pick that shit up bro like fuck leaving that shit I'm taking bitch wit me
@@jw1714 agreed, would have been so much better, but you know Neil Druckmann wanted to shock us and I guess shocking equals good writing for him 🤷🏻♀️😅
Ellie killed a nameless guard and that guard’s daughter’s nanny’s coworker’s friend’s 5th grade teacher’s ex girlfriend’s college roommate is gonna kill Ellie in the Last of Us 3 and then we’re gonna play as her while Dina goes out for revenge, also Dina is gonna take her kid with her on this dangerous quest for revenge
Also they justify Joel's death with plot "realism", yet Abby is saved by multiple plot amors throughout the game, with the last plot amor being the worst - "oh I just remembered Joel playing the guitar so I'm not going to drown Abby anymore hehe". Lame AF.
@@str8apem88 they did? What about the parts where you sneak up on groups of them that aren’t even aware Ellie is around? They were just minding their business lol
@@klazeyt2002 it's definitely explained that she knows where Tommy is and it's a lead to Joel. But running into Joel is pure happenstance and definitely lazy.
@KlazeYT It was TOMMY that revealed their names, not Joel. Tommy, who had been living in Jackson the whole time, and had even started trading with outsiders, therefore was comfortable identifying himself. You can also find notes from other people in Jackson that went out on patrols saying that they had offered strangers the opportunity to come back to Jackson.
@@darencolby1916 It's more the fact that the Japanese games are bordering on simply softcore erotica, and Sony decides to full censor them. But a game showing fullblown nudity and the equivalent of gay sex, is A-Okay. I've been with sony since it's first console was introduced, and they were a beacon for developers and expression in games, these days, you know it's backwards when their competitor Nintendo, is being lax on sexual themes in video games! The PS5 doesn't look promising if this blatant censorship and xenophobia of foreign games continues.
I'm literally CRYING laughing after watching Joe send Abby off a cliff a few times. I've watched this so many times and it still sends my sides in orbit.
abby was a mistake, and nothing anyone says will change my mind on that. And what's worse, she's probably going to be back in the possible third game, FUCK!
Well, I would've cried laughing even more if I saw Angry Joe or you jump off the cliff over Joel's death despite the time he ruined the cure that'd save humanity.
Well, to give Naughty Dog a little credit.. Abby knew Joel had a brother named Tommy, so when Tommy said "I'm Tommy and this is my brother Joel", Abby was rather safe to assume this was the Joel she was looking for.
Are they supposed to stand there and get killed by infected🤣 they would have to be the most paranoid people on earth to think they was about to get fucked up
@@alisoyupak2730 Joel is literally the ultimate paranoid survivor, it's fundamental to his character and what has allowed him to live for decades in a hostile apocalypse. Being forced to shelter with potential enemies doesn't mean you immediately lower your guard and become chummy - that's a common sense lesson Joel would have learned ages ago. And that goes double for when you're right outside of the town you're protecting, which Tommy specifically mentions is vulnerable to attack from groups like hunters. The fact is these people meant Joel great harm, and the real Joel would have sensed that a mile away. But alas, he needed to die, and the writers took the lamest and laziest way to achieve that - they dumbed him down.
Seriously man lmao Most of us (Hispanics) don't say Pendejo all the time, like how these Far-Left media's like to portray our people like lmao.. They're ironically being racist themselves. It's like if they made a black guy some sort of Gangster in a movie about oppression and un-justice in America. It goes completely agaisnt what they're trying to do 🤭 Such dumbasses with loud mouths..
I'm convinced Mel (pregnant lady) was written into the story by a man or a childless woman. NO mother who was pregnant a few months would've said "Oh yeah, when I was 7 months along, I totally was ready to fight some Zombies and soldiers!" You feel tired, your feet are swollen, you need to pee every other minute and eat like a horse. Gunning down some people during a gang war isn't exactly high on the list of priorities at that point.
Or the Rattler guy at the end that Ellie killed with the SMG, the guy who told her where Abby was. We should definitely get him as a DLC character and have more flashbacks inside of flashbacks inside of more flashbacks and have his sisters uncles brothers step fathers grandmother special ed son hunt Ellie down and kill her within 37 minutes of the game. And have 75% of the game be played as the sons neighbor who’s caught cheating and have him be redeemed until they catch up to the main timeline when Ellie dies. Idk that was messy but I still made a better story than this game did 🤣😂🤣
Joel was done extremely dirty in this game. He was one of the most interesting “protagonist” in gaming and was treated with no care. Kill Joel if you want but it could’ve done with respect to the character and the fans. Like Angry Joe said it was done for shock factor.
@meathead2934 I know right? It's insane that Joel could die like that in a world with no justice system or police to deter you from committing such acts. So unrealistic.. 😂
@@letsBrn fr, I’m still waiting on his next vid but it seems he’s going for hour long videos now so who knows what he will come up with next. I’m going to miss the idea of what last of us part 2’s story was suppose to be, if you ask me, this was suppose to be a coming of age story for Ellie while being a departure from Joel (whether it’s her leaving Joel to possibly find her mother or search for answers, with Joel dying in the 2nd or 3rd game). Because Ellie and Joel are what makes last of us, and what’s ironic is that Neil druckman had said that in the grounded documentary. It was really exciting for me to see where it would go with Ellie, and this mystery character that looks like it could possibly be Ellie’s mom or someone related. The fact she was 19 and I was 19 when the game released, with the game taking place in Washington where I had lived. With Ellie being someone like me who always wears converse and bullshits lol. I had even pre-ordered the game with the collectors edition before the leaks had come out about the story. I had ignored it though cause in my mind I was thinking there’s no way the story is gonna be bad. Then the first hour of the game happened and I was furious ngl when I saw her bring up the golf club so early into a 25 hour game. And Abby is not even related to Ellie as her mom or sister. Joel’s swept under the rug unless you count that one flashback with them which I thought was amazing, tommy is just all over the place and Dina and Ellie’s relationship doesn’t feel as purposeful or bittersweet in any way . And the story just went nowhere and I wish it never happened if I knew it was gonna be this bad. It hurts to say honestly cause that’s how much I wanted the 2nd game to be good, it may be weird to some but stories are everything to humanity.
I'm still shocked that they compared this horrible story to Schindler's list which btw actually made me cry, movies almost never do that for me and for them to say this games story was Schindler's list levels of good... it just bugged me on so many levels because I highly disagree.
YES JORDAN! Finally I have found someone who understand how people work. Other opinions are neither good nor bad nor right nor wrong. Changing people’s minds to conform with your beliefs (ESPECIALLY FOR A VIDEO GAME) is bad and wrong.
@Toxicity Ellie brought it upon herself. She could have walked away at any point. She had a family and a future when she got back to Jackson, and she threw it away for vengeance.
I think it’s worse that he wasn’t even angry. He was disappointed. *Subscribe to Angry Joe for his efforts in playing this game and bringing this review to the fans.*
Funny and sad at the same time. They had such a great foundation with TLOU1, and they managed to give us this shit. But what do I know, it's art and I'm obviously a simpleton...
@@MrQwertyman111 you'll notice how everyone defending this game has an elitist attitude.... Like "listen here, u little shit... This game good, ok??"..... Like we must be sexist, or transphobic or downright retarded if we don like this game....
As soon as Tommy acts like an idiot and goes on a suicide mission I already felt like the characters were now just plot devices and didn’t actually have brains in this game.
I cannot agree with you more. I remember watching the trailers and thinking that the plot was that Dinah died and Ellie was seeking revenge against her killers. And Joel is trying to find Ellie to stop her from becoming like him.
I have come back to this review years later just because of how much Joe tells the truth in this one and how funny the skits are. TLOU2 still really leaves a sour taste in my mouth story wise and I have honestly thought about going back to give it another shot but there is no way I can bare this story a second time.
@@im-nobody It really isn't having to play over half of the damn game as Abby really makes you hate playing it. You just can't get invested in the story because it feels like someone brought home your long lost childhood dog to play with and as soon as you saw it happily trotting through the door, tail wagging, they blasted in the back of the head as your stare in horror and then they call you a racist/transphobic/misogynistic fascist when you dare complain about the bait and switch.
It's a remarkable game and Joe has no credibility given the fact that he covered the leaks and developed a strong hatred for the story before playing it. His critiques of the story are laughable and childlike. This review was a low point for this channel.
The thing I'm most pissed off about is the hypocricy. Revenge is bad for Ellie but then Abby does it it's ok. In general, one of the things I hate the most is hypocricy and double standards.
I just finished the game today. Feelings lots of feels about Joel and Ellie. Now I’m allowing myself to look at all the things that could have spoiled me through the years like this video lol. If you want my honest thoughts on this subject, I think it doesn’t matter. Ellie wanted Abby dead so that it could bring her peace, but at the end I think she accepted that she won’t get it. Killing Abby won’t bring Joel back. It won’t make her happy. But at least if she lets Abby live a little kid may have a life.
No it wasn’t “ok” for Abby. She got her revenge, but in the end it proved not to do anything for her. She was still having nightmares about her dead father. Her mission to kill Joel also fragmented her friendships and pushed them away, plus Ellie killed most of them as a direct result of Abby getting revenge. The point is that Abby went through with it and got punished for it, and while Ellie got punished as well, at least she was better than Abby in her ability to spare her.
Cause Abby is Trans and didn’t you get the memo Trans people can’t be bad and can’t make bad decisions DUH . Damn I hate woke culture is has help ruin so many things
I just watched the last 20 minutes of the game, and liked it. Basically from right before the boss fight till the end. I thought it was well done. Probably an unpopular opinion on this channel. Now, that's not necessarily how I'd feel about the execution of the game as a whole. Just the story, as a concept. Joel kills Abby's dad, betrays Ellie. Ellie doesn't forgive him, Abby kills Joel, denying Ellie ability to forgive him. Ellie tracks Abby across the land, has opportunity to kill Abby to take revenge, and forgives her. She couldn't forgive Joel, but she can forgive Abby. Just that concept, ignoring the execution, is pretty beautiful IMO. Note, I never played either of these games, I don't even own a PS4. But I think I can still comment on the story as a concept.
Albert Johnston you don’t understand. you didn’t spend the whole first game establishing an emotional connection with joel. you didn’t wait 7 years for the sequel. ND destroyed joel’s character for shock value. they made him leave his guard down which he would never do, and brutally murdered him with a golf club at the hands of someone we not only don’t know, but also don’t like. then we had to play as them. then we finally got a chance for a little bit of satisfaction and were denied that too. it’s terrible all around
@@elanadeshina7521 Like I said, I like the concept. I have little to nothing to say about the execution because I've played neither game. Though I do think the ending was executed well, if you isolate the shit out of it. As in, if a person like myself who has little context aside from knowing the overall story watches it, yeah, it's good. But I totally understand how that could be frustrating as shit to an invested person. I saw another comment that compared it to if John Wick left the guy alive that killed his dog, or even worse if it tries to make you like the guy and dislike John Wick. Fuck. That.
@@albertjohnston1026 Ok, but your analogy has a flaw, as Ellie garishly kills hundreds of innocent people to get to abby. It's more like: you are forced for 20+ hours to gorge on hundreds of mud-pies all childishly made and poorly constructed as enemies thus slowly working your way from dining table after kitchen table until lastly reaching (the last of us dessert boss)... (a piece of cake no less and its at the kids table.) One slice that you truly deserve to savor the flavor of as Abby finally surrender their brawny grasp on it and hand it over to you, it is your just deserts. But you suddenly decline the offer and like a tick now fully engorged, you say: "no thanks, I'm full." And then you foolishly desert your mission and slink off into the desert to die of dehydration or heat exposure.
@@albertjohnston1026 i find it ridiculous, and extremely unrealistic. No one is going to forgive abby and not kill her. to Not allow the player to make the choice to kill abby is fuckin outrageous. We should have been given the opportunity to avenge joel. Thats all I was thinking the entire time was "wow I cant wait to kill this butch bitch who killed my favorite character..." and then NOPE stolen from us. Our righteous revenge is not allowed. but its WONDERFUL for abby to get her revenge right? but not us?... screw that. It would be one thing if it was done well, but the story is not done well at all
Remember -- DOOM Eternal did not win a single damn game award because it's all poached by this woke-ass dogshit of a sequel... Game Awards just lost all credibility to me since then.
Kaka poopoo you thinking the game is bad doesn’t make his opinion “unrealistic”... The game got unnecessary hate in my opinion... I mean the first game establishes many times that Joel isn’t a good guy. At least he wasn’t. And him killing Abbys father is one of the more “harmless” things he does... And don’t forget, you as the player want Abby dead for what she did to Joel, but don’t forget you killed her father too... The same thing.
This sums up his opinion. He did t like the characters because he had bias not because of bad writing. He wrote them off as soon as they introduced. 🤷🏾♂️ his opinion is shit in this case and part 1 had PLENTY of convenient moments where shit “just worked out” did it not?
@@wanted247ha8 I honestly don't understand why you people defend the game. I didn't even play the game and I hate it. I actually watched a walkthrough of it.
Hellstone I honestly don’t understand why you people hate the game you never even fucking touched it and you claim you hate it. Talk about a useless opinion that adds nothing to the conversation.
I gave this game a chance, even after all the backlash it received. Mind you, I borrowed a copy from a friend, I wasn't about to spend my money on this. I didn't get too far, I made it to the Seattle portion, and gave up. The game on Grounded difficulty, which is what I always play through the first game on was so difficult, I wasn't having any fun. Where in the first game, you could use various tactics, and strategies to get through situations as long as you managed your inventory well enough. Well in this game, the only tactic I found semi-useful was running in circles around whatever area I was in until Dina killed all the infected because she has unlimited ammo, and encounters with Clickers are basically unavoidable now. I eventually put this game down, and just watched through the rest of the story on RUclips. Disappointing, we waited seven years for a sequel that we didn't need, and got a game we didn't want.
I dont understand why people make excuses for this game, anyone who thinks its good either turns their brain off during it or just doesnt pay attention to the terrible story
Well they say why, they're not quiet about it. After all, how many times have you seen "You just didn't understand it?" Pay close attention to what they act like "understanding" is: unthinking sycophancy and adherence to dogmatic repetition of others' statements. Because they do this version of "understanding," which is not actually comprehension like you or I know understanding to be, it makes them feel smart. When you criticize the game, they don't take it as criticism about the game, it's critique against themselves. Because after all, if they don't *actually* understand it, then they're not that smart for pretending they do, now are they?
@@crazyinsane500 Yeah and I'll say it for the 10 millionth time. You didn't understand it, learn perspective. No I don't revel in thinking I'm smarter for enjoying a well made game more than the next player. If anything disappointed, but that is the strongest amount of copium I've ever read xD
It's funny how the writers and tlou2 defenders justify Joel's death plot with "realism", but then Abby gets like 10 plot armors throughout the game - talk about being realistic
@@pascal5318 I mean, the fact that Ellie did have plot armour in the second game is pretty undeniable. Also, i'm "fine" with the major events of TLOU2, i just think the structure was *really* bad.
Sony is actually calling publications that gave it a bad review lol Polygon and Vice have talked about it. Other places are saying that they've been bullied in the past too.
TheSkyWhale to be fair, they would have firefly records of tommy since he was one, and Marlene would’ve named Joel as Ellie’s escort. Tommy’s last name is miller, he has a brother named Joel. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like there are other Tommy’s and Joel’s, but the idea that this is outlandish is itself outlandish
@@ComicWriter-ml3qt To be fair Miller is a pretty common last name, and Joel and Tommy are kinda common first names as well. So you're likely to get the wrong person if all you have to go off of is a name
Its not wrong if you kill random people, but its wrong to kill someone for the sake of revenge. Its simple. Propably one the hundreds of random npcs you killed, had a kid that will Hunt ellie in part 3, and dinas daughter will then hunt the murderer. Such great storytelling, 100/10, masterpiece
It's the same how we're supposed to care about killing Alice the dog as this huge tragic moment but we've already been indiscriminately killing identical dogs for the last like 6+ hrs..
She let go of Abby because of Lev, but the game did a terrible job at showing the viewer that. The line "just take him", could easily be missed and I thought they should have done a better parallel between Lev and her at the beginning of the game.
@@PantakesVGP Ellie realises the error of her ways at the end though, she goes through a journey of death to see that death isn't the answer..and what does she get in the end? she's all alone. It's not rocket science people! :)
I love that Joe doesn't give a $#!t about companies giving him grief over perfect scores. He gives his truth and I respect him for it. We love you Joe!
The funny thing is that this IS NEVER MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY TO JOEL AND ELLIE (am I missing something??)! Talk about bad storytelling.I mean look how many chances Abby had to explain this to Ellie? Or say SOMETHING about her quest of vengeance to Joel like the scene where Joel dies.. It is done so poorly.. like she can't say "you ruined my life!! You killed my father in the hospital!" then Joel could've tried to explain it to her in the scene and pleaded something like "I loved her, would you have done differently?" NOTHING (at least that death scene would have been interesting and better written)
Nah, he got exactly what he wanted. He knew people would react like this, it's part of his artistic vision and exactly why Joel was killed at the start of the game, with no attempt to humanize Abby to start off. Get people to hate Abby, then try to convince them otherwise. Anyone who is unable to let go is labelled an immoral person for not forgiving Abby, or criticized for "not understanding the games message".
Sadly, for him to be kept up he would need to be a human, with human emotions. Cuckmann cares little for those he thinks are "beneath" him, which of course is funny since he took all the credit for a franchise he didn't create to then run it into the ground
the "AHYIAH AHYIAAH AHYIAAHTTAYAMIND!" needs to be made into a recurring special effect clip insert into all future Angry reviews. It's iconic, epic and hilarious. lol
I know the feeling of going to a restaurant and ordering your favourite dish... And they changed the recipe or ingredients or chef and it doesn't taste good anymore. One of the worst, small sad things in life.
Neil recently explained how Joel wasn't stupid for trusting Abby and her friends and totally giving himself away. If you have to explain your own story to people, then it wasn't told very well in the first place
And he can explain all he wants, when the character has been shown through an ENTIRE GAME to act in a different way people expect him to act that way and not have sudden rushes of crap to the brain in vital moments. Poorly written is poorly written, Neil.
@@palladiamorsdeus is it too much to believe that living for 4 years in a pleasant community might have an effect on his trust? The first game was about him opening his trust again after closing up for such a long time
I don't know who were the "main" writers of that game, but it's obvious they straight up copied the plots of The Road and Children of Men... and Naughty Dog made it seems like they invented this kind of post-apocalyptic drama, they took credit for something created by Cormac McCarthy and P. D. James. Which is disgusting, I just can't take this seriously... and guess what, these novels didn't had sequels, so Naughty Dog had to come up with their own story... and look at the result. I really hope in the near future, when Last of Us 3 becomes a thing, even more condescending and messier, people will look back at the first two games and realize they were never great to begin with, plagiarism does not deserve praise, period
@@darn0k1 Bruce Straley was the main writer for the first game, iirc. He was the one who shot down Neil's stupidest ideas, chief among them being that he wanted to make the second game's plot be the first game's. Apparently Tess, instead of Joel's most trusted partner/closest friend/probable lover, would have been a recurring antagonist tracking Joel and Ellie across the country because she wanted revenge after Joel killed her brother in a firefight. Bruce took one look at that plot and went "Tracking a person on foot for thousands of miles in a zombie-infested post-apocalyptic wasteland? That's absurd and totally immersion-breaking, that's going on the cutting room floor." He's well-regarded for fun, character-building dialogue, which the first game has in spades with Joel and Ellie. He co-directed all of the Uncharted games with Amy Hennig, but left after the release of Uncharted 4, which makes sense since that game was essentially Neil Druckmann strong-arming Hennig out of the company, throwing out her original plot and script, and shooting the franchise that was Straley and Hennig's baby in the head. The abominable crunch with UC4 because of Druck throwing out the original script also probably pushed him to leave. The Last of Us' good writing almost certainly rests on Straley's shoulders infinitely more than Druckmann's.
4 years later and I still don't understand how Abby is so jacked. Did she find a stockpile of steroids? I work out. I eat protein. And my arms aren't twice the size of my head.
* Dog attacks * * You're literally given no choice but to kill * Sometime later.. " KILLING DOG BAD! YOU KILLED GOOD DOG THAT PLAY FETCH! YOU BAD PERSON!!11! "
Orrrrrrrr...... Some dogs good, some dogs bad? orrrrr....you know what, I can't be bothered educating, your original argument was weak to begin with..lol
The game never said "YOU BAD PERSON". I interpreted the point as that some characters are good in some instances and bad in others, or that whether they're good or bad depends on your perspective. I don't know why you have to look at the game through the most idiotic possible lens.
This is a telltale game more than it is a zombie game. I dont even think its a zombie game with such poor reference to science or even the pretty well known area of biology from a layman. You dont have to be a dr to know fungus is the most stupidest choice for zombie apocalypse. Virus, Bacterial, Alien xenobiology, protozoan, fuck even archae would have made a better choice. The amount of true research depth done is the tell tale sign of how much effort was given for nuance and realism. And this lazy attitude can be seen across the entire series right from even part 1. Fungus general can survive out of dying things thats it. If the fungus were to continue the infection, it would need the host to be dying...not flailing around or with horde migrations..thats climate and geology which have no effects on fungus. Now that i think about it, even mutated algae wud have been more believable. This is not a zombie game, its a stoopid person who thinks hes a scientist or scifi writer game who completely obfusticates himself
Dina : "you recognize any of these guys?"
Ellie : "no."
TLOU Part 3 : ellie get killed by the father of a random bandit she killed in part 2.
Won't be so surprised if it happen.
@@iqbalmohamadradzi4387 "SubVErtInG eXpeCtATioNs"
BUT GUIS!!!!! ELLIE KILL!!!!! ELLIE EVIL!!!!!!! HURRRDURR
@@decentlyaverage9483 Exactly! 😂
Ikr? some people defending this shitty ending are like "Ellie didn't kill Abby because she needed to end the cycle of revenge" but they ignore that she actually made it worse, and I'm sure families from those people that Ellie killed because of Abby, they now will try to kill Ellie.
Neil: “Blacklist Angry Joe.”
Naughty Dog: “But sir, you already made us blacklist him.”
Neil: *”Then un-blacklist him, and blacklist him again!”*
Jay curious yes he’s an awful person. Neil, that is.
Double-Secret Blacklist!
"Double blacklist him. No... triple blacklist him"
"No... not triple blacklisting him. Show some mercy sir".
"You heard what I said. Or Abby will come after you next"
Or send in the accusers!
Have the rolling stones killed
“it’s a story about right or wrong written by people who think they’re always right” - quote from a Japanese player which perfectly sums this game up
Who's this Japanese player?
Yup
Perfect
Wow that’s as concise as it gets!
@@__sleepy__5910 Hideo Kojima. Look him up.
"In the last of us, I became Joel"
"In the last of us left behind, I became Ellie"
"In the last of us pt 2, I became disappointed"
NakeyJakey.
I quote, the hotboy himself, NakeyJakey
Disappointed and fucking pissed off with how fucking stupid this games story was. Dropped all respect that was built up in the first game just to shove a shit stain new character that's not interesting at all and made Joel look like a fucking idiot.
@@crimsonghoul8983
*Revelation 3:20*
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Last of Us 3 synopsis: Ellie eats a Snickers. Finds out she’s allergic to peanuts. Dies. You play 20 hours as Mr Peanut.
least it would have been funny unlike this
You play 20 hours as Karen wanting to talk to the manager at Mr Peanut. After murdering his family in front of him, the camera fades out as Karen eats a bag of peanuts and cries.
you then watch a flashback of the peanut being processed into a snickers.
Keep in mind
You made the sequel to service the fans
You don't make a sequel to grab different audience
Genius, perfect sequel, I can't wait to never play it.
Ellie picks up all the trading cards
"Ellie sees a free PS Vita"
Ellie: naaahhhhh
PS Vita
She oldschool
Will Silapheth right bro like I've never had a PlayStation except for my dad's PSP and even I'd pick that shit up bro like fuck leaving that shit I'm taking bitch wit me
It even had Hotline Miami! COME ON!
@@gowary right, thank you..I never had a Vita so all I was thinking about was a PSP
Last of Us Part 3: Ellie finds out she’s allergic to peanuts. **Dies**
You then proceed to play as Mr. Peanut.
TLOU 3 was nuts bro absolutely stunning commentary on how bad allergies are 10/10
They'll add her on the box then remove her once the game is out
Damn the gameplay and graphics were nuts bro
Salty
Nice copy/paste idiot.
Crazy how that one Joel and Ellie flashback brought more emotion than the rest of the game.
Yes!! One of the only good things about this game :(
@@oz2428 yeah it sucks they could’ve made an entire second game leading to Joel’s death without forcing anything but oh well
@@jw1714 agreed, would have been so much better, but you know Neil Druckmann wanted to shock us and I guess shocking equals good writing for him 🤷🏻♀️😅
Joel flashbacks were the only good parts of the game
Doean't work with me because I dislike Ellie so much.
49 minute review?
Joe: "You don't get to rush this."
'Puts on wig, brandishes golf club'
Oh yeah Gaymur time
Haters: "Who are you to do a 49 minute review?!"
Joe: "Guess."
@@GENKI_INU Haters: "Whatever speech you got rehearsed and let's get this over with"
@KitMellow
Salty Fanboys: “Im gonna find......and I’m gonna kill....every.....last... one of them”
@@cosmickeyboard9811 except for him, he gets to live...
Ellie killed a nameless guard and that guard’s daughter’s nanny’s coworker’s friend’s 5th grade teacher’s ex girlfriend’s college roommate is gonna kill Ellie in the Last of Us 3 and then we’re gonna play as her while Dina goes out for revenge, also Dina is gonna take her kid with her on this dangerous quest for revenge
Then gonna be a random sex scene with her lul
OMG lolllll
I can't stop laughing
This comment is underrated 🤣
Seems accurate
Oh who cares. None of it ever made sense
"My name is Tommy and this is my brother"
"...Wiseau"
O hai Ellie
That’s hilarious
in tha minute is the tommy thing?
Nicholas Rowley “i did not hit her”
"So how's your sex life?"
**Abby & Neil Druckmann sex scene flashback**
It’s amazing that the writers didn’t consider the fact that Ellie brutally kills like 200 people before sparing Abby
Also they justify Joel's death with plot "realism", yet Abby is saved by multiple plot amors throughout the game, with the last plot amor being the worst - "oh I just remembered Joel playing the guitar so I'm not going to drown Abby anymore hehe". Lame AF.
And even then they deserved it. Besides, they always attacked her first.
@@str8apem88 they did? What about the parts where you sneak up on groups of them that aren’t even aware Ellie is around? They were just minding their business lol
@@klazeyt2002 it's definitely explained that she knows where Tommy is and it's a lead to Joel. But running into Joel is pure happenstance and definitely lazy.
@KlazeYT It was TOMMY that revealed their names, not Joel. Tommy, who had been living in Jackson the whole time, and had even started trading with outsiders, therefore was comfortable identifying himself. You can also find notes from other people in Jackson that went out on patrols saying that they had offered strangers the opportunity to come back to Jackson.
Since Sony was ok with this game having a hardcore s** scene. We have to demand Sony to uncensor all the japanese games they gutted these last years.
This is an underrated comment. Hope you get more likes.
Absolutely agree but it wasn’t hardcore lol
@@darencolby1916 It's more the fact that the Japanese games are bordering on simply softcore erotica, and Sony decides to full censor them. But a game showing fullblown nudity and the equivalent of gay sex, is A-Okay. I've been with sony since it's first console was introduced, and they were a beacon for developers and expression in games, these days, you know it's backwards when their competitor Nintendo, is being lax on sexual themes in video games!
The PS5 doesn't look promising if this blatant censorship and xenophobia of foreign games continues.
And force them to release DOA Xtreme 3 in the west.
PS5 my guy
Naughty Dog's writers went so hard for the Game of Thrones vibe that they even recaptured the disappointment.
I thought they went more for a walking dead vibe cuz of the way they kill Joel.
Please clap for this chap everybody. We all know your not gonna clap for the writers of this mess.
This is a dank ass comment, I actually laughed. Well done
Only Neil Drunkmann could accomplish something like that.
Axel Kasai Joel kind of forgot about the 9 iron fleet
Sony: Naked anime girls bad. Shame on you.
Also Sony: "Trophy Unlock: Naughty Dog-gystyle"
Neil definitely went hard for the sex scene to be added to the game.
At least Japan is Safe from the Sex Scene then Us
Those anime girls are underage in the story that's why.
😂😂😂 wait a minute, is that the actual name of the trophy 👀👀
LMFAO No way, the name of the trophy is a masterpiece.
I'm literally CRYING laughing after watching Joe send Abby off a cliff a few times. I've watched this so many times and it still sends my sides in orbit.
abby was a mistake, and nothing anyone says will change my mind on that. And what's worse, she's probably going to be back in the possible third game, FUCK!
@@str8apem88 they had several years making this game it definitely wasn’t a mistake lmao
Funny how Joe doesn't like this but says he's not a transphobic or sexist BUT if u don't like episode 3 of the show ur homophobic!
Huh?
Well, I would've cried laughing even more if I saw Angry Joe or you jump off the cliff over Joel's death despite the time he ruined the cure that'd save humanity.
Abby just went and killed every guy named "Joel" just to be sure
Dayum lol
Dang I know a few Joel’s! I better tell them to stay away from any Abbys!
Well, to give Naughty Dog a little credit.. Abby knew Joel had a brother named Tommy, so when Tommy said "I'm Tommy and this is my brother Joel", Abby was rather safe to assume this was the Joel she was looking for.
good one LOL..
@@Gary.009 Abby should have said something like this:
"i am Abby Montoya you killed my father,prepare to die!"
and it would make more sense....
“Just because something is explained doesn’t mean it’s good”
I only wish EVERYONE saw it that way. Not just video games.
True
Same man
What are you talking about??,
I also wish people would accept other peoples opinions. Some people hate it, some love it. Some dislike it, some like it.
The Last of Jedi feels, and the whole last season of GoT
He's not even mad, he's just tired and disappointed.
You can say... he was desturbed
His disappointment is immeasurable and his day is ruined.
we all are.
Those bags under his eyes... Yeah he's tired 😴
He cant be mad, He mustnt be mad for this channel sake, if he mad the lgbt community is swiftly strike him as Homophobic.
Joel and Tommy mindlessly standing in a room full of strangers with their guard completely down remains one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Are they supposed to stand there and get killed by infected🤣 they would have to be the most paranoid people on earth to think they was about to get fucked up
@@alisoyupak2730 Joel is literally the ultimate paranoid survivor, it's fundamental to his character and what has allowed him to live for decades in a hostile apocalypse. Being forced to shelter with potential enemies doesn't mean you immediately lower your guard and become chummy - that's a common sense lesson Joel would have learned ages ago.
And that goes double for when you're right outside of the town you're protecting, which Tommy specifically mentions is vulnerable to attack from groups like hunters. The fact is these people meant Joel great harm, and the real Joel would have sensed that a mile away.
But alas, he needed to die, and the writers took the lamest and laziest way to achieve that - they dumbed him down.
@@maulcs nah ur wrong loool just having saved someone and on the run from infected, Joel and Tommy had no choice 🤣
@@alisoyupak2730 Did you even read my reply? "nah ur wrong loool" - what a great display of the intelligence of people who defend TLOU2.
In the 1st game joel is never revealing his name drives that truck right into folks no hesitation
"If I don't make the Mexican say pendejo every sentence then people won't know that he's a Mexican" - Neil Druckmann
Same with cyberpunk 2077
Seriously man lmao
Most of us (Hispanics) don't say Pendejo all the time, like how these Far-Left media's like to portray our people like lmao..
They're ironically being racist themselves. It's like if they made a black guy some sort of Gangster in a movie about oppression and un-justice in America. It goes completely agaisnt what they're trying to do 🤭
Such dumbasses with loud mouths..
@@hanjizoe2648 Yep. We mexicans (most of us) don´t say pendejo everytime in out daily life, and not to everyone of course.
@@hanjizoe2648 pendejo is used a lot by colombians but not sure about other hispanic countries
julio hernandez, uh no we don’t. It’s like saying Americans do barbecues in their back yard all the time, anyone can do it
All the build up to this game went into abbys body
Bruh 💀💀💀
that is actually a good read into the lines, meaning that our expectations for the game killed Joel.... according to Naughty Dog
Bruh im dead
and daily injection of testostrone + hgh for them manly arms.
Lol i stopped right after that
I'm convinced Mel (pregnant lady) was written into the story by a man or a childless woman. NO mother who was pregnant a few months would've said "Oh yeah, when I was 7 months along, I totally was ready to fight some Zombies and soldiers!" You feel tired, your feet are swollen, you need to pee every other minute and eat like a horse. Gunning down some people during a gang war isn't exactly high on the list of priorities at that point.
Neil Druckmann wrote it lol, so that would actually make sense
But-but Mel was a STRONG, INDEPENDENT woman. The real hero of the story...
Same situation with the Abby sex scene, considering nobody would go in dry like they did but ig we’re virgins according to ign
@@Hasan-hm5fy True lol
You’re taking it too literal . In that case how did a woman even survive this long in the in-game world? By herself ?? Lmao gtfo
Playing as Abby after she kills Joel is like playing as Sephiroth after he kills Aerith.
I think it's even worse. Joel is literally THE main character in TLOU1. We play as him through 90% of the game.
Fax@@MossXM
In part 3 you will play as Manny’s dad and hunt down Tommy.
Panderooo! *Spit*
Or the Rattler guy at the end that Ellie killed with the SMG, the guy who told her where Abby was. We should definitely get him as a DLC character and have more flashbacks inside of flashbacks inside of more flashbacks and have his sisters uncles brothers step fathers grandmother special ed son hunt Ellie down and kill her within 37 minutes of the game. And have 75% of the game be played as the sons neighbor who’s caught cheating and have him be redeemed until they catch up to the main timeline when Ellie dies. Idk that was messy but I still made a better story than this game did 🤣😂🤣
Hell yes!!!!! Release date so I can pre order and pay off fast?????
Or a kid of a woman from the thousands of the female warriors who was in the early pregnancy period when Ellie or Abby killed her...
@@toddm7367 release date 2031 lol
>stabs girl in neck
>picks up ps vita
>deletes dying girl's save file in front of her
evil as hell
Miami Vice That explains why everyone in the game is so violent
That is a waste opportunity to make player delete the saves files easter egg joke.
Savage! 😂
That'd be a better plot than what we got
I tried my hardest to not kill npcs during the game, so they don't make a third game based on that
you have my 10th like sir
Well done soldier
Npcs?
@@theyarddawg94 Non Player Characters
You should know that with a naughty dog game, you don't get yo make choices. The narrative is set in stone. Duh...
Joel was done extremely dirty in this game. He was one of the most interesting “protagonist” in gaming and was treated with no care. Kill Joel if you want but it could’ve done with respect to the character and the fans. Like Angry Joe said it was done for shock factor.
7.5/10
Yeah it wasnt very shocking, it was actually just revolting and immediately made me wonder ok so why am I playing the game now?
Can't believe there are people defending his death and saying it had to "happen" like that
are you dumb bro? the death that drives the entire plot of the game is done "just for shock factor" 😂😂😂😂
@meathead2934 I know right? It's insane that Joel could die like that in a world with no justice system or police to deter you from committing such acts. So unrealistic.. 😂
Tlou fans: "They ruined our favourite characters just to add in dulled down new ones for most of the game!"
Halo 5 players: "first time?"
Star Wars fans: first time?
Assassins creed players... u too
Teen Titans: You’re all just so...
Adorable.
@@justsomeponywithamustache8731 Add Ben 10 to the list.
GOT: YOU GOT AN ADD IN??
Arthur Morgan was right.. "Revenge.. is a fool's game." - RDR2
ya ever notice the letters for Red Dead Redemption 2 look like a drunk misspelling of R2D2?
Now THAT was a good sequel, though it was technically a prequel
Yea but it felt damn good killing Micah in the end. So satisfying and it was earned.
Even Kratos from God of War said it best as well: the path you walk... vengeance... you find no peace
And this whole game is a 'fool's game'.
Last of Us 3-
Joel ” hey you, you’re finally awake”
Yes please
You were trying to cross the border?
Don't... Don't give me hope
The use of "your" fucking ruined "you're" joke.
Thank you
I think what he meant is ellie will catch up on joel..
As the Joker once said....
"AND HERE... WE... *GO* "
Cuckmann ruined this series
To spill fax
i'm a man of my word eehahahaha!
Yeah not like we havnt seen this comment before..
I think the story had a good premise. I would love to see a rewrite.
I’ve been waiting for this more than the game lol
Truth
TheTruth0492 same
7 years
He’s preaching
We all did buddy
Angry Joe ain’t no virgin for hating the sex scene, he was simply traumatized as it reminded him of the horrid sex scenes from 2013’s Ride To Hell.
I need to check out that review. It's freaking hilarious.
At least those look so stupid you can laugh at it. This is literally two pieces of shit cheating on a pregnant woman.
actually, i did too
Facts.
Considering we saw that THING beat Joel to death and after that celebrating by «getting it» from behinde
Who wouldn’t be traumatized?
38:08 the comedic timing of Joe saying "no that's a girl don't be sexist" before getting her brains smashed in was legitimately hilarious
Abby: Who are you?
Joel: My name is Nathan and this is my brother Sam.
*END CREDITS*
This is a really smart Easter egg
And let's pretend they didn't killed him just because his name was Joel and they didn't have any other evidence that he was "the" Joel.
@@TheZeug come on we all know Abby killed every Joel in existence.
My name is Troy Baker and this is my brother in arm Nolan North.
No. Abby would have tortured them to find out where joel is. That was actually her plan.
That guy looks nothing like Abby, his arms are too small.
Abby should have been played by OJ.
@@hermannabt8361 Peak Arnold.
lmao
Abby: Do you even lift, BRO!?
dark souls
I thought I waited 7 years to play the game, but I realized that I was actually waiting for this angry review
Underrated comment
@Afro Nah
@Afro Nah
@Afro Nah
@Afro why do you think he is angry?
Lmao @ Abby jumping off the cliff and Joe going into “this is a 10/10”
“In last of us, I was Joel, in left behind I was ellie, in last of us part 2 I was disappointed”-nakeyjakey
I have seen that video to many times
@@letsBrn fr, I’m still waiting on his next vid but it seems he’s going for hour long videos now so who knows what he will come up with next. I’m going to miss the idea of what last of us part 2’s story was suppose to be, if you ask me, this was suppose to be a coming of age story for Ellie while being a departure from Joel (whether it’s her leaving Joel to possibly find her mother or search for answers, with Joel dying in the 2nd or 3rd game). Because Ellie and Joel are what makes last of us, and what’s ironic is that Neil druckman had said that in the grounded documentary. It was really exciting for me to see where it would go with Ellie, and this mystery character that looks like it could possibly be Ellie’s mom or someone related. The fact she was 19 and I was 19 when the game released, with the game taking place in Washington where I had lived. With Ellie being someone like me who always wears converse and bullshits lol. I had even pre-ordered the game with the collectors edition before the leaks had come out about the story. I had ignored it though cause in my mind I was thinking there’s no way the story is gonna be bad. Then the first hour of the game happened and I was furious ngl when I saw her bring up the golf club so early into a 25 hour game. And Abby is not even related to Ellie as her mom or sister. Joel’s swept under the rug unless you count that one flashback with them which I thought was amazing, tommy is just all over the place and Dina and Ellie’s relationship doesn’t feel as purposeful or bittersweet in any way . And the story just went nowhere and I wish it never happened if I knew it was gonna be this bad. It hurts to say honestly cause that’s how much I wanted the 2nd game to be good, it may be weird to some but stories are everything to humanity.
Hits hard
I knew how bad Naughty Dog quality was going to get from how awful uncharted 4 and left behind dlc was. I am so glad my instincts were right...
@@MrAnon00 Uncharted 4 was awful? Whuh?
“There was a sequel. Wasn’t as good.” - Joel
he is right, Jurassic Park 2 sucked balls
this should be the next Joel in One joke
Nice
@@CynicalNarcissist last of us 2 too
@@CynicalNarcissist some how i love all Jurassic Park movie lmao
"This review is the Schindler's list of the reviews"
IGN - 10/10 masterpiece
@Lance AnthonyThis game make me feel like an angry lesbian and an angry girl on steroids! 😂
It has a little something for everyone
I'm still shocked that they compared this horrible story to Schindler's list which btw actually made me cry, movies almost never do that for me and for them to say this games story was Schindler's list levels of good... it just bugged me on so many levels because I highly disagree.
@@thelurker5950
'Schindlers List' was based on a fictional novel.
@@thelurker5950 Its fiction tho.
The last of us 3: We play as Dinas baby and we hunt Tommy for yelling at Dina on the porch
Just to forgive Tommy in the end Lol 😆
@@jordanshepherd6147 Oh and we lose both thumbs and a nostril 🤦🏽♀️
@@MvmmaRy lol soo true
"You better stick to them books boy, because revenge is a fools game."
- Arthur Morgan 1899
The last of us 2: Too bad
“An old friend of mine once said that revenge is a fool’s game” perfect line for this game
Don’t compare rdr2 to this turd In a shiny wrapper
@ralph waldo picklechips Redemption is way too boring.
@@gamer-px5cu your mother is booring
2018* to be fair, wich is after Cordyceps appeared in TLoU :^)
“Just because something is explained does not make it good” Some very wise words I hope people listen to
Nazism is well explained by Carl Schmitt in Legality and Legitimacy, and that doesn't make it good.
Same as this game.
Wise words by Joe.
What is good or bad is subjective.
YES JORDAN! Finally I have found someone who understand how people work. Other opinions are neither good nor bad nor right nor wrong. Changing people’s minds to conform with your beliefs (ESPECIALLY FOR A VIDEO GAME) is bad and wrong.
Just because you don't like something doesn't make it bad.
I agree
And to think, Ellie in the first game said "I'm scared of ending up alone"...
In the end everyone ends up alone.
@Toxicity Ellie brought it upon herself. She could have walked away at any point. She had a family and a future when she got back to Jackson, and she threw it away for vengeance.
Toxicity
To be fair she killed all of Abby’s friends and Abby had to live with that lol.
Toxicity check girlfriend reviews
@@gatogelato0037 she won't get rid of her nightmares of Joel
Joe was 100% correct about this dumpster fire. The only thing good about it is the gameplay. Too bad it's a NARRATIVE focused game.
I think it’s worse that he wasn’t even angry. He was disappointed.
*Subscribe to Angry Joe for his efforts in playing this game and bringing this review to the fans.*
He's crushed
DissapointedJoe
Both really.
Everybody who love great games should be disappointed. This game is pure average. Damn I preordered this sh...
I paid 70 euro digital and i feel robbed
13:29 what makes it so funny is how genuine Alex's reaction is...... "what? you guys are leaving me? I don wanna play this shit.......!!"
That's essentially a torture lol
Haha that's hilarious
Funny and sad at the same time. They had such a great foundation with TLOU1, and they managed to give us this shit. But what do I know, it's art and I'm obviously a simpleton...
Hahahaha I don't how ppl even play this shit
@@MrQwertyman111 you'll notice how everyone defending this game has an elitist attitude.... Like "listen here, u little shit... This game good, ok??"..... Like we must be sexist, or transphobic or downright retarded if we don like this game....
When Joe said : “WHAT AAUOEAAREYOUROUTOFYOURMIND!!!”
I felt that
That is epic rant right there.
Same.
The onomatopoeia of pure exasperation.
i had to stop the video to laugh my ass off and immediately cry after
I laughed my ass off. Joe's mind broke at that moment.
As soon as Tommy acts like an idiot and goes on a suicide mission I already felt like the characters were now just plot devices and didn’t actually have brains in this game.
I cannot agree with you more. I remember watching the trailers and thinking that the plot was that Dinah died and Ellie was seeking revenge against her killers. And Joel is trying to find Ellie to stop her from becoming like him.
I totally agree with u. Cant believe the interpretation for trailers could be exact same
Dude that would have been soo much better than their forced perspective.
That would have worked way better, a much more compelling story.
Damn. You just wrote a story that’s waaaay better right there!
Buttter Milk yeah that seems more like a direct sequel than this. Although i havent played the game yet so cant say anything at this moment 😅
"When something is bad, it is not good."
- Sun Tzu
Wise words are wise.
no shit sun tzu
the core of this game is convincing people that something bad is great, like that shit song 'ordinary world - green day'
- Dominic Toretto
That’s deeeeeeepppopooppplhfcvjt
“I’m Tommy and this is my brother J-jo”
“....”
“J-j-Jim Milton”
“Oh ok”
We live just up the road, in Tahiti
Y’all should come back with us. Restock your mangoes before you head out.
LUMBAGO
"and this is my brother jojo."
Independent Tapestry GET UP
I have come back to this review years later just because of how much Joe tells the truth in this one and how funny the skits are. TLOU2 still really leaves a sour taste in my mouth story wise and I have honestly thought about going back to give it another shot but there is no way I can bare this story a second time.
go in for the gameplay
I played it when she realised for 5 days and finished it, and didn't play it until now, it's not worth it
@@im-nobody It really isn't having to play over half of the damn game as Abby really makes you hate playing it. You just can't get invested in the story because it feels like someone brought home your long lost childhood dog to play with and as soon as you saw it happily trotting through the door, tail wagging, they blasted in the back of the head as your stare in horror and then they call you a racist/transphobic/misogynistic fascist when you dare complain about the bait and switch.
It's a remarkable game and Joe has no credibility given the fact that he covered the leaks and developed a strong hatred for the story before playing it. His critiques of the story are laughable and childlike. This review was a low point for this channel.
@@dnice4145his Cold War review was a low point. He knows nothing about COD to actually critique it. His TLOU 2 review is spot on.
I love how when he said "within a genre I'm tired of" then he looks around for OJ getting ready to say "hey Joe you wanna play another zombie game"
OG angryjoe fans are expecting for OJ to appear as well ahahaha
@jocaguz18 Dead Island is just great, as are all the follow ups, like Dying Light and stuff.
heeey Sancho!!!! You want to play a zombie game?!!!
"AYYEEEAEAYY ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND??????!!!"
Angry Joe
I’m the 160th like
Made me burst into laughter...
ARE YOU OUTTAAAA YOUR MINDDDDD !!!! Hahahah
Asriel Cypher same
@Element Hunter The "what" is the least memorable part ;)
Can't believe they killed off Angry Joe within the first three minutes of the review. 2/10
haha joe is right though I am a sony fan boy but hes right on what he says
They Did What?
dislike the video and unsub.....
How do?
And OJ kept getting shit on and never got his revenge..
More like a 10/10
The thing I'm most pissed off about is the hypocricy. Revenge is bad for Ellie but then Abby does it it's ok. In general, one of the things I hate the most is hypocricy and double standards.
I just finished the game today. Feelings lots of feels about Joel and Ellie. Now I’m allowing myself to look at all the things that could have spoiled me through the years like this video lol. If you want my honest thoughts on this subject, I think it doesn’t matter. Ellie wanted Abby dead so that it could bring her peace, but at the end I think she accepted that she won’t get it. Killing Abby won’t bring Joel back. It won’t make her happy. But at least if she lets Abby live a little kid may have a life.
No it wasn’t “ok” for Abby. She got her revenge, but in the end it proved not to do anything for her. She was still having nightmares about her dead father. Her mission to kill Joel also fragmented her friendships and pushed them away, plus Ellie killed most of them as a direct result of Abby getting revenge. The point is that Abby went through with it and got punished for it, and while Ellie got punished as well, at least she was better than Abby in her ability to spare her.
I hate the game don't get me wrong, but to be fair, Abby loses all her friends because she killed joel, so revenge is bad for her too.
@@gigachad3925 stfu you didn't even get what the commenter means
Cause Abby is Trans and didn’t you get the memo Trans people can’t be bad and can’t make bad decisions DUH .
Damn I hate woke culture is has help ruin so many things
The Red Dead Redemption games did the concept of revenge being more harmful to the one inflicting it so much better.
Succulous _ thats good writing.
Man the ending...
the whole game wasn't about revenge it was about change and how the gang didn't want to.
I will bet money you didn't play the game.
God of war 3 did it better, too
"Just because something is explained does not make it good."
I just watched the last 20 minutes of the game, and liked it. Basically from right before the boss fight till the end. I thought it was well done. Probably an unpopular opinion on this channel.
Now, that's not necessarily how I'd feel about the execution of the game as a whole. Just the story, as a concept. Joel kills Abby's dad, betrays Ellie. Ellie doesn't forgive him, Abby kills Joel, denying Ellie ability to forgive him. Ellie tracks Abby across the land, has opportunity to kill Abby to take revenge, and forgives her. She couldn't forgive Joel, but she can forgive Abby. Just that concept, ignoring the execution, is pretty beautiful IMO.
Note, I never played either of these games, I don't even own a PS4. But I think I can still comment on the story as a concept.
Albert Johnston you don’t understand. you didn’t spend the whole first game establishing an emotional connection with joel. you didn’t wait 7 years for the sequel. ND destroyed joel’s character for shock value. they made him leave his guard down which he would never do, and brutally murdered him with a golf club at the hands of someone we not only don’t know, but also don’t like. then we had to play as them. then we finally got a chance for a little bit of satisfaction and were denied that too. it’s terrible all around
@@elanadeshina7521 Like I said, I like the concept. I have little to nothing to say about the execution because I've played neither game. Though I do think the ending was executed well, if you isolate the shit out of it. As in, if a person like myself who has little context aside from knowing the overall story watches it, yeah, it's good. But I totally understand how that could be frustrating as shit to an invested person.
I saw another comment that compared it to if John Wick left the guy alive that killed his dog, or even worse if it tries to make you like the guy and dislike John Wick. Fuck. That.
@@albertjohnston1026 Ok, but your analogy has a flaw, as Ellie garishly kills hundreds of innocent people to get to abby. It's more like: you are forced for 20+ hours to gorge on hundreds of mud-pies all childishly made and poorly constructed as enemies thus slowly working your way from dining table after kitchen table until lastly reaching (the last of us dessert boss)... (a piece of cake no less and its at the kids table.) One slice that you truly deserve to savor the flavor of as Abby finally surrender their brawny grasp on it and hand it over to you, it is your just deserts. But you suddenly decline the offer and like a tick now fully engorged, you say: "no thanks, I'm full." And then you foolishly desert your mission and slink off into the desert to die of dehydration or heat exposure.
@@albertjohnston1026 i find it ridiculous, and extremely unrealistic. No one is going to forgive abby and not kill her. to Not allow the player to make the choice to kill abby is fuckin outrageous. We should have been given the opportunity to avenge joel. Thats all I was thinking the entire time was "wow I cant wait to kill this butch bitch who killed my favorite character..." and then NOPE stolen from us. Our righteous revenge is not allowed. but its WONDERFUL for abby to get her revenge right? but not us?... screw that. It would be one thing if it was done well, but the story is not done well at all
“Twice the pride, double the fall” - Count Dooku
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." - Kylo Ren
“Master Kenobi you disappoint me”
Me to Ellie
Miranox naughty Dogs motto when it comes to making The Last Of Us 2
@@Miranox2 I was hoping for Kenobi why are you here? -Darth maul
I love how he butchered the themes and is so confident about it because he formed an opinion when he saw the leaks. Completely unprofessional and sad.
Remember -- DOOM Eternal did not win a single damn game award because it's all poached by this woke-ass dogshit of a sequel...
Game Awards just lost all credibility to me since then.
Abby throwing that toy at that dog a million times will never have the same emotional effect as Ellie petting that Giraffe once in the first game
@@ihate4286 I did, and hell no it didn't
@@ihate4286 at least have the opinion be realistic
Kaka poopoo you thinking the game is bad doesn’t make his opinion “unrealistic”... The game got unnecessary hate in my opinion... I mean the first game establishes many times that Joel isn’t a good guy. At least he wasn’t. And him killing Abbys father is one of the more “harmless” things he does... And don’t forget, you as the player want Abby dead for what she did to Joel, but don’t forget you killed her father too... The same thing.
Slaymettra - totally agree. She is the protagonist of the game, and once you understand what’s she’s fighting for, it’s hard not to be on her side.
@@ihate4286 Hmm...nope. Ended up hating them both. Felt kind of bad for Dina. But fridge-girl and girl who killed her own mother? Fuck them.
Ellie better watch out in Part 3, one of the enemies that she killed in Part 2 could have a daughter with sports equipment skills.
I bet part 3 would be 100% about Abby
I hope there won't be a part 3.
Baseball Bat is next
@@jericocortes7289 Or a tennis racket.
Can't Think Of A Name
Unfortunately the game sold extremely well... Which means they will most likely make a part 3.
"Just because something has been explained does not make it good."
THANK YOU!!!
Read this as soon as he was saying it lol
This sums up his opinion. He did t like the characters because he had bias not because of bad writing. He wrote them off as soon as they introduced. 🤷🏾♂️ his opinion is shit in this case and part 1 had PLENTY of convenient moments where shit “just worked out” did it not?
@@wanted247ha8 I honestly don't understand why you people defend the game. I didn't even play the game and I hate it. I actually watched a walkthrough of it.
Hellstone I honestly don’t understand why you people hate the game you never even fucking touched it and you claim you hate it. Talk about a useless opinion that adds nothing to the conversation.
Wanted247ha Played it, hated it. Explaining a story beyond the game doesn’t make it good.
I gave this game a chance, even after all the backlash it received. Mind you, I borrowed a copy from a friend, I wasn't about to spend my money on this. I didn't get too far, I made it to the Seattle portion, and gave up. The game on Grounded difficulty, which is what I always play through the first game on was so difficult, I wasn't having any fun. Where in the first game, you could use various tactics, and strategies to get through situations as long as you managed your inventory well enough. Well in this game, the only tactic I found semi-useful was running in circles around whatever area I was in until Dina killed all the infected because she has unlimited ammo, and encounters with Clickers are basically unavoidable now. I eventually put this game down, and just watched through the rest of the story on RUclips. Disappointing, we waited seven years for a sequel that we didn't need, and got a game we didn't want.
Levels of Joe Anger
L1: Soft mumble
L2: Disappointment
L3: Loud voice
L4: Heavey breathing
L5: Hand motions increases
L6: *Super Saiyan*
First time I ever saw him on L5: Livid
Level 6: blue
L7: 4 HOURSSS!!!
Level 7: sith lord
L7: Aliens Colonial Marines
The Last of Us Part 3: we play as infected and hunt down all humans we met in Part 1 und 2 for revenge
We'll get to play as 'Clicky's' brother...
Last of Us 4: You play as the family of all the bottles thrown
I would be down for that. The infected are the best part 😂
@@762x69 same here, I love playing as the zombies in games
Nah man keep my words Abby gonna be there :))
everyone: expects a great game
neil: subvert expectation
Well, he thoroughly subverted my expectations for a good story. Mission accomplished.
Smithing Bear well good on yah mate you liked the game congrats. Hears you achievement. 😃🎉👍
- you just made a turd
- no, hater, I subverted expectations
He played us all and won the title of Retard of the Lifetime.
People who watched the leaked: "You activated my trap card."
I dont understand why people make excuses for this game, anyone who thinks its good either turns their brain off during it or just doesnt pay attention to the terrible story
Well they say why, they're not quiet about it. After all, how many times have you seen "You just didn't understand it?"
Pay close attention to what they act like "understanding" is: unthinking sycophancy and adherence to dogmatic repetition of others' statements.
Because they do this version of "understanding," which is not actually comprehension like you or I know understanding to be, it makes them feel smart. When you criticize the game, they don't take it as criticism about the game, it's critique against themselves. Because after all, if they don't *actually* understand it, then they're not that smart for pretending they do, now are they?
@@crazyinsane500 Yeah and I'll say it for the 10 millionth time. You didn't understand it, learn perspective. No I don't revel in thinking I'm smarter for enjoying a well made game more than the next player. If anything disappointed, but that is the strongest amount of copium I've ever read xD
fanboys, that's what you call them, fanboys.
@@alxdrksoulsomeone disagrees with you, “they must be a fanboy” nah bro you just can’t handle someone thinking you’re wrong.
Loser
It's funny how the writers and tlou2 defenders justify Joel's death plot with "realism", but then Abby gets like 10 plot armors throughout the game - talk about being realistic
They’re trying to force feed their leftist ideals onto us. The last of us.
@@JohnSmith-cz3us Huh?
@@str8apem88 What are you huh'ing about? You could have made an entire montage of the times that Ellie had plot armour in this game.
@@TheArrowedKnee Criticism is a good thing, but some people just lose their minds when things don't go the way they want them to...
@@pascal5318 I mean, the fact that Ellie did have plot armour in the second game is pretty undeniable. Also, i'm "fine" with the major events of TLOU2, i just think the structure was *really* bad.
Damn, this is the first review of Angry Joe that he didn’t seem Angry when he gave his rating. He looked...sad, and heartbroken.
Because he was.
He was expecting a Rambo type shooter lol.
Mate it's a game dont treat it like a dead person lmao
@@mahominishiyama124 Wow, that's being dickish.
@@AntMilt1 No, he didn't.
Phone rings:
"Hi, This is Angry Joe..."
"Hi this is Sony. We need to talk"
We need to have a little chat.
Joe: you didn't even give me a free copy.......you done fucked it up **hangs phone**
Sony : We will give you free copy of every new games, free tickets to all our events, and we also like our games to have 10/10 score.
I don't know what's more amazing, Joes guitar song or the closing meme!
Sony is actually calling publications that gave it a bad review lol
Polygon and Vice have talked about it. Other places are saying that they've been bullied in the past too.
Abby : joel miller
Joel : no , its patrick
Roll credits
Literally like the old west. Good luck confirming anyone's identity.
@TheSkyWhale shes straight up built like a space marine
TheSkyWhale to be fair, they would have firefly records of tommy since he was one, and Marlene would’ve named Joel as Ellie’s escort. Tommy’s last name is miller, he has a brother named Joel.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like there are other Tommy’s and Joel’s, but the idea that this is outlandish is itself outlandish
@@ComicWriter-ml3qt Do you know how common those names are? xD Did they just kill every Joel and Tommy they came across?
@@ComicWriter-ml3qt To be fair Miller is a pretty common last name, and Joel and Tommy are kinda common first names as well. So you're likely to get the wrong person if all you have to go off of is a name
They did subvert our expectations. We expected it to be good after all.
Ellie vs complete strangers: no problem attacking
Ellie vs Abbie: “enough of the fighting”
Wtf
Its not wrong if you kill random people, but its wrong to kill someone for the sake of revenge. Its simple. Propably one the hundreds of random npcs you killed, had a kid that will Hunt ellie in part 3, and dinas daughter will then hunt the murderer. Such great storytelling, 100/10, masterpiece
"Makes you feel like Hulk" - IGN 10/10
It's the same how we're supposed to care about killing Alice the dog as this huge tragic moment but we've already been indiscriminately killing identical dogs for the last like 6+ hrs..
She let go of Abby because of Lev, but the game did a terrible job at showing the viewer that. The line "just take him", could easily be missed and I thought they should have done a better parallel between Lev and her at the beginning of the game.
@@PantakesVGP Ellie realises the error of her ways at the end though, she goes through a journey of death to see that death isn't the answer..and what does she get in the end? she's all alone. It's not rocket science people! :)
I love that Joe doesn't give a $#!t about companies giving him grief over perfect scores. He gives his truth and I respect him for it. We love you Joe!
Vox 96 he never has cared.
That's why he's the best game reviewer at his size.
Vox 96 quite a lot of people don’t care actually. Only game corporations shill. But either way it’s ok like the game.
+100 respect.
Joe is also entertaining
Abby: you killed my father!
Joel: I don’t even know who you are
Ellie: you killed my father like person!, i forgive you.
Abby: ohh bye
The end
actually it was the nurse who was her mother
Fan fic tier slop
@cesar *proceds to make abby jump off the cliff to her death*
The funny thing is that this IS NEVER MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY TO JOEL AND ELLIE (am I missing something??)! Talk about bad storytelling.I mean look how many chances Abby had to explain this to Ellie? Or say SOMETHING about her quest of vengeance to Joel like the scene where Joel dies.. It is done so poorly.. like she can't say "you ruined my life!! You killed my father in the hospital!" then Joel could've tried to explain it to her in the scene and pleaded something like "I loved her, would you have done differently?" NOTHING (at least that death scene would have been interesting and better written)
This is the review that keeps Neil Druckmann up at night
Neil Cuckmann
Apparently he doesn’t care about the negative reviews
Nah, he got exactly what he wanted. He knew people would react like this, it's part of his artistic vision and exactly why Joel was killed at the start of the game, with no attempt to humanize Abby to start off. Get people to hate Abby, then try to convince them otherwise. Anyone who is unable to let go is labelled an immoral person for not forgiving Abby, or criticized for "not understanding the games message".
Sadly, for him to be kept up he would need to be a human, with human emotions. Cuckmann cares little for those he thinks are "beneath" him, which of course is funny since he took all the credit for a franchise he didn't create to then run it into the ground
"ARE YA' - ARE YA OUTTA YOUR MIND?!" - Angry joe
Love your name and pic lmfao
The shaky effect make it more hilarious
Hands down my new fav quote from joe i lmao till i cried LOL
Can I get a time stamp for that moment?
Joe when says that XDXDXD
“War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter to kill each other”
-Niko Bellic
That's deep....👏🏾👏🏾
Or the foolish who follows without question.
Yes, to a degree, but it's also part of who we are.
Greg A. War is not apart of who we are at all, what are you talking about?
ROMAN ARE YOU SLEEPING?!
the "AHYIAH AHYIAAH AHYIAAHTTAYAMIND!" needs to be made into a recurring special effect clip insert into all future Angry reviews. It's iconic, epic and hilarious. lol
I agree. One more epic line amongst the lines of: "4 HOURS!?", "DAT LOOK GOOD!", "You've done fucked it up!" and "IS THAT BLUE!?"
@@Zidane_Mina dont forget the famous single "Drop that dukey" or the "eaass and titties"
yes please xD 9:44
I don't know who is more passionate about games that they will show their rage. Angry Joe or Egoraptor?
I was about to ATTEMPT to spell that out until I read this comment. FUCK it's hilarious.
"What did you say Ellie?!!! Stop being so selfish".. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I come back here once in a while for that part 🤣
I laugh at that cut scene, and the one where Ellie (OJ) has a chance to get a better weapon, but just gets bullets and keeps her crappy rifle.
Actually she is selfish.
@@Icy-cb6dr she's not.
Tommy: I'm Tommy and this is my brother
Joel: My name is JEFF
*Roll Credits*
"We live very far away"
@@Plight_ "And we have a couple of friend posted nearby *just in case"*
They live happily ever after no golf club needed
Abby: Tommy litearly introduced you as Joel 10 minutes ago
@@Nrzpokrter *sweat intensifies* oh no, it was just in the heat of the moment my name is actually Jeff *RIGHT TOMMY*
Me: See’s AngryJoe’s Review of TLOU Part 2, click!*
Also Me: Scrolls straight to comment section*
Hello fellow scroller
@@illuvitarv5 heyo, how are you
@BennyJ
>,>
Howdy bub.
Saaaaaammmmmeeee
Abby pet Doggo and played fetch.
Me: Abby never petted a Giraffe, Ellie wins.
Right?!
She lost her fingers so she lost in the end
Build a WALL abby lost her muscles at the end tho
@@godofgrogu9196 Yes, I would give my fingers to muscles like hers.
YES!
I literally died laughing when Abby fell off that cliff lol Definitely the canon ending in my mind
This is like going to a restaurant that had the best food but now they made everything else better and made the food worse.
And you have Yelp reviewers saying "it's not about the food itself, it's about the experience"
I know the feeling of going to a restaurant and ordering your favourite dish... And they changed the recipe or ingredients or chef and it doesn't taste good anymore. One of the worst, small sad things in life.
"My favorite restaurant, I ordered steak but they gave me soup, they subverted my expectations so 5/5"
@@jmb9040 lmao
@@Walamonga1313 ikr, that sucks.
I'm impressed, Alex is almost as masculine as Abby.. almost...
Your MAGA hat is showing.
Toxicity I’m surprised they gave it a 10. It had a lot of water
@@crazydud3380 chill, it was funny
Period
@@crazydud3380 . . . What?
Neil recently explained how Joel wasn't stupid for trusting Abby and her friends and totally giving himself away. If you have to explain your own story to people, then it wasn't told very well in the first place
@Evidentialist
I don't know... I think he has a great concept but he fails at delivery. I think Amy, as well as Bruce, kept him in line...
And he can explain all he wants, when the character has been shown through an ENTIRE GAME to act in a different way people expect him to act that way and not have sudden rushes of crap to the brain in vital moments. Poorly written is poorly written, Neil.
@@palladiamorsdeus is it too much to believe that living for 4 years in a pleasant community might have an effect on his trust? The first game was about him opening his trust again after closing up for such a long time
@@divinenoodle Also the night before he was relieved from his biggest fear of losing Ellie once and for all.
@@divinenoodle So the (unintentional) message of the game is not to become too trusting, and to always mistrust strangers.
Neil was not the main writer of the first game. He just took all the credit.
Do you know who was it? Was it Amy Hennig?
I don't know who were the "main" writers of that game, but it's obvious they straight up copied the plots of The Road and Children of Men... and Naughty Dog made it seems like they invented this kind of post-apocalyptic drama, they took credit for something created by Cormac McCarthy and P. D. James. Which is disgusting, I just can't take this seriously... and guess what, these novels didn't had sequels, so Naughty Dog had to come up with their own story... and look at the result. I really hope in the near future, when Last of Us 3 becomes a thing, even more condescending and messier, people will look back at the first two games and realize they were never great to begin with, plagiarism does not deserve praise, period
@@darn0k1Halley Gross. She is the narrative lead for the whole game.
@@crimsonghoul8983 if so she has done poor job with Tlou2
@@darn0k1 Bruce Straley was the main writer for the first game, iirc. He was the one who shot down Neil's stupidest ideas, chief among them being that he wanted to make the second game's plot be the first game's. Apparently Tess, instead of Joel's most trusted partner/closest friend/probable lover, would have been a recurring antagonist tracking Joel and Ellie across the country because she wanted revenge after Joel killed her brother in a firefight. Bruce took one look at that plot and went "Tracking a person on foot for thousands of miles in a zombie-infested post-apocalyptic wasteland? That's absurd and totally immersion-breaking, that's going on the cutting room floor."
He's well-regarded for fun, character-building dialogue, which the first game has in spades with Joel and Ellie. He co-directed all of the Uncharted games with Amy Hennig, but left after the release of Uncharted 4, which makes sense since that game was essentially Neil Druckmann strong-arming Hennig out of the company, throwing out her original plot and script, and shooting the franchise that was Straley and Hennig's baby in the head. The abominable crunch with UC4 because of Druck throwing out the original script also probably pushed him to leave. The Last of Us' good writing almost certainly rests on Straley's shoulders infinitely more than Druckmann's.
I feel like Alex really embodied the role of Abby. His countless hours of playing her character really paid off. So brave, so stunning.
He should've worked out some more to reach her level though
Abby+Alex= The Last of Us part 3
No
Masterpiece
Bit too feminine though.
A wonderful meme is born. "are, are you out of your mind?"
Neil was out of his mind for the last 7 years
He's referencing the h3h3 meme of the dad confronting his daughter from social media, its not a new meme.
@@leeroyj2755 joe said it better
And he's milked it to death
@@Edward_Tinners He's way over in his head.
tommy: hey i’m tommy, this is my brother..
joel: bob
*rolls credits*
I sorta wished that was the case
Tommy already said his name way before
@@YC_001 so what
@@YC_001 yeah there was no hiding his name
hey my name is nathan and this is sam
4 years later and I still don't understand how Abby is so jacked. Did she find a stockpile of steroids? I work out. I eat protein. And my arms aren't twice the size of my head.
This comment is stupid, just because you can’t doesn’t mean someone else couldn’t. You ain’t that guy I guess.
Maybe you should take in more protein and increase the weight you lift and the day's you workout no pain no gain.
@@afalseerra9517 what kind of moron still defending this woke crap to these days
@@afalseerra9517dude abby is living in a post apocalyptic world there is no steroids and lots of protein
@@LUXXEN-yx9hv literally tocu grass man
* Dog attacks *
* You're literally given no choice but to kill *
Sometime later..
" KILLING DOG BAD! YOU KILLED GOOD DOG THAT PLAY FETCH! YOU BAD PERSON!!11! "
Orrrrrrrr......
Some dogs good, some dogs bad? orrrrr....you know what, I can't be bothered educating, your original argument was weak to begin with..lol
Every game is like this... Press RB to feel guilty
Haha they really did look like a clown with that comment.
The game never said "YOU BAD PERSON". I interpreted the point as that some characters are good in some instances and bad in others, or that whether they're good or bad depends on your perspective. I don't know why you have to look at the game through the most idiotic possible lens.
@CEWIIH Freak
04:51
"....within a genre I am tired of!"
*proceeds to look around himself nervously in case OJ shows up with another zombie game*
That was a good reference :D
I thought he was gonna pop up later lol 😂😂😂😂
*HEY JOE WANNA PLAY A ZOMBIE GAME?*
Honestly, I think TLOU 2 can barely even be called a zombie game with how little the zombies are used.
This is a telltale game more than it is a zombie game. I dont even think its a zombie game with such poor reference to science or even the pretty well known area of biology from a layman. You dont have to be a dr to know fungus is the most stupidest choice for zombie apocalypse. Virus, Bacterial, Alien xenobiology, protozoan, fuck even archae would have made a better choice. The amount of true research depth done is the tell tale sign of how much effort was given for nuance and realism. And this lazy attitude can be seen across the entire series right from even part 1. Fungus general can survive out of dying things thats it. If the fungus were to continue the infection, it would need the host to be dying...not flailing around or with horde migrations..thats climate and geology which have no effects on fungus. Now that i think about it, even mutated algae wud have been more believable.
This is not a zombie game, its a stoopid person who thinks hes a scientist or scifi writer game who completely obfusticates himself
"This game makes you feel like a moron" 10/10 - IGN
Lmfao! You made me literally blow snot out my nose with sudden laughter.
"Not enough gay sex 5/10" - ign
As someone who actually likes the game, this is hilarious.
Yup I'm a moron I bought the digital version. 💩
Completely agree with everything in this review. They fucked up this game so badly. 😢
But got 50 game of the year awards
@@bahriaproperties1143sad
@@bahriaproperties1143Because it’s ‘woke’
Exactly
@@bahriaproperties1143 Okay??? And???