Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 4 'The Spoils of War' Part 1 REACTION!!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Daenerys Targaryen takes matters into her own hands. Arya Stark reaches makes it back home. Jaime Lannister and Bronn collect the spoils from the war with the Tyrells. Here's part 1 of our reaction to season 7, episode 4 of #GameOfThrones. #SpoileOfWar
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Stark Family reunion:
Jon: I came back from the dead!
Bran: I can see everything!
Arya: I'm a faceless Ninja assassin!
Sansa: WTF, guys???
minski76 Sansa: I just got fucked up yo wtf is this
Sansa: ...I married a rapist serial killer.
Rickon: I died and nobody really cared.
@Xic D Joffrey wasn't a rapist?
Sansa: I got rape by a dumb bastard
That scene in the cave when dani said "Isn't their survival more important than your pride" is the exact same sentence Jon said to Mance Rayder before he got executed.
Also reminiscent of what Varys said to Eddard Stark in the dungeon of the Red Keep in season 1
@@elizagaskell7957 true but ned has put his pride aside and died anyways so this isn't working out everytime I guess ^^
But it's ironic, because she's the one who is a more proud person.
@@celinhabr1 Daenerys talking about his pride isn't her denying her own pride, she is questioning his intentions, if this threat is real if it is important they fight together if they're survival is at stake why doesn't Jon just do this? If he does it she'll give him what she wants and everyone can be saved so why isn't he trying to compromise knowing she has no idea what it is they're fighting but he does.
@@serasera6928 It's still ironic.
People dismissed the existence of dragons before they saw them. People will dismiss the existence of white walkers before they see them. When theres a very real threat like Cersei in front of you, it's hard to listen to someone saying there are mythical monsters past the Wall.
Here’s my problem with Dany not believing Jon. What reason would Jon have to lie to her? And even if she thought it was some plan to trap her and betray her in the north, then why would him bending the knee make a difference? He’s still just as capable of lying even if he bends the knee
@@pademelon2216 remember the lannisters and the starks helped defeat the mad king and kill her brother. She had every right to be suspicious. And bending the knee wouldn't just mean saying it , it would mean the Norths armies joining hers to fight Cercei and marching south instead of north.
gingerbill128 I’m not against Dany in this scenario, I just think the writing is a bit off. Yes, bending the knee means pledging his forces, but if he has a reason to lie to her about the White Walkers, then surely he can just betray her after getting what he wants.
I dunno, I just think it would have been better if they didn’t have this whole “she doesn’t believe him,” and instead just kept the argument of “Jon is asking her for forces and offering nothing in return, which is why she wants him to bend the knee”
Why should he bend the kney lol. They both needed each other, U are biased dude. Jon was fighting for mankind unlike Dany who just wanted the Throne. Jon doesn't give Shitt about King and Queen. and as he said if he had bent the knee, his ppl would've lost faith in him. U don't understand these things
And just look at Dany she was starting to become more arrogant, power was getting to her head
@@gingerbill128 lol remember her ancestors killed his uncle, his family members last time they visited a Targaryen 🌝look at it both ways dude
Keep in mind, Daenerys invited him specifically to bend the knee, and Tyrion completely left that out of the letter he sent to Jon. So when he gets there, she assumes that he's come to bend the knee, and Jon has no idea about any knee bending cuz it wasn't mentioned. So then she's confused as to why he bothered coming at all, then he starts asking for stuff and going on about White Walkers. She realistically doesn't buy it because not one of her Westerosi advisors which include Tyrion, Jorah, Ser Barristan, Olenna, Yara, Theon, Ellaria, Varys, even Viserys, have ever brought this up. However, this Jon Snow who calls himself King (which basically ignores her position as The North isn't actually independent), who is the son of Ned Stark, who was best friends with Robert Baratheon, a man who had literally tried to have her murdered from the day SHE was born, until the day HE died, is saying they exist and they're coming. She has no reason to believe him. Even in his argument, he claims the throne won't matter if the army of the dead come, but essentially contradicts that by implying Northern Independence will. To Jon, he's thinks he's dealing with another power obsessed monarch who doesn't care about the people and he's frustrated. To Dany, she's thinks she's dealing with another entitled & patronizing man, trying to uses lies to scare her into doing what he wants and take all she's worked for, so she goes in super assertive boss mode. Her attitude isn't off or wrong, she's just a woman in a super misogynistic land, realizing that she has to either go hard or go home because as a woman, she's already at a disadvantage and that's without being a "foreigner" (which technically she's not), and the "Mad King's Daughter".
TL;DR Their first meeting went badly due to their own preconceived notions of who the other was based on their familial relations, and miscommunication surrounding the point of the meeting due to Tyrion's deception in the letter.
I will concede that you have some very good points. But she came at him the way lady Olenna told her to. That was advice she should have weighed before using, because she vowed to break the wheel of the same ol same. She used a commonly used tactic to deal with Jon instead of listening to her own thoughts.
Kiki17 so it means tyrion is planning from long time 🤔 am sure he will going to betray all in season 8
This is what annoys me about Tyrion, I like him but he pisses me off with the things he does in this season.
@Kiki 17 This may be the best summary of this scene I've read. For me Jon was pretty stupid in these exchanges he showed zero ability to negotiate or finesse this situation. Daenerys said "join me and together we will save this country from those who would destroy it". Then later Tyrion says "help us defeat Cersei and together our armies will protect the north". He didn't have the mental capability to turn these statements to his advantage.
Jon would have been branded a traitor to the North if he just bowed down like that and pledged himself to a new queen after all they went through, the hard-fought war for independence of the North. Like he said, he'd at least have to talk to his lords before taking such action. Granted, Dany was surprised, but I still think she was mostly in the wrong of the two of them. She came off as arrogant and unwise in that encounter. There was very little attempted persuassion on her part, no lucrative offer for what the North could gain by such an alliance. Instead it was just: I am the rightful queen, bend the knee. The only good part was the apology for her father.
I love how in the previous episode Baelish tells Sansa to picture every possible outcome and everything that can ever happen and nothing can surprise you. Here comes Bran who doesn't have to picture anything. He literally knows every situation and outcome...and that is one situation Baelish didn't expect. And it ended up surprising him. Kind of poetic.
If they’d of used him properly he would’ve fled to the vale as soon as Jon was declared king in the north
i mean, dany sailed to westeros with the intention of conquering the 7 kindgdoms, and jon is in her way. he's in control of the biggest kingdom. people only think she's rude because it's jon. if it was an unknown lord people would probably find it reasonable.
tdvc YT I think the wording of this argument is a bit off. It seems like you’re trying to argue in favor of Dany, even though this argument promotes the opposing belief. Essentially what you’re saying is that we only find Dany unreasonable when we can understand both sides of the argument, and we root for Dany when we only understand her side of it. Doesn’t really make her out to be the righteous one
@@pademelon2216 sorry if the wording isnt the best, maybe it's because i'm not a native speaker. i'm actually defending dany, i understand where she's coming from.
tdvc YT Yeah, personally I’m on Dany’s side. I’m not really a Dany fan, but Jon is demanding help and offering nothing in return. Much like the spice merchant was being smart when he refused to help Dany, Dany is being smart by refusing to help Jon, unless he gives her something in return
@@pademelon2216 exactly. and also, expecting her to give up on her conquest because the current ruler says "no" doesn't make much sense.
tdvc YT To be fair, Jon wants her to stop so that she can help fight the White Walkers (which is entirely reasonable. What isn’t reasonable is expecting her to do that without getting anything in return). Honestly, if I was in Jon’s shoes, I would try to help her beat Cersei ASAP so that she could help with the enemy to the north ASAP
meera is such an underrated character
Meera was awesome. I wish we got to see more of her (and *any* of her dad!)
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Yeah I wish Brandon would’ve been more grateful to her. Damn it I shipped them so much.
I think what people aren't understanding about Dany is that she's trying to win her own war, and now Jon wants her to help with a Northern threat. In her mind, why should she pledge her resources, her dragons, her support, to someone that won't pledge to do the same for her? That's why she asks him to bend the knee, otherwise she would be putting her entire power play on the line for him, with no support in return. It's not being stubborn, it's being diplomatic and needing him to meet her halfway. The support has to go both ways.
Very well said
Exactly I can't stand when reactors diss Dany and etc when they need to look at it from her pov. Dany doesn't know or hasn't seen what we KNOW...they need to cut her some slack
Its bc Jon is the shows golden boy. And I love Jon so that's not a knock against him.... but unfortunately the majority of GoT fans are crazy Stark fans.
nileyfan1998 right, just because WE know the threat is real and more important than anything going on with Cersei doesn’t mean Dany has any reason to. Just because WE know Jon to be trustworthy and without ulterior motive doesn’t mean she does.
No, there is another option - military alliance or even marriage. That's what happened between Targaryens and Martells.
You Guys keep expecting Daenerys to trust Jon just because he's a nice guy, Remember Jorah was a nice guy as well but nearly had her and her unborn child killed? Remember that Big Guy from Qarth who offered to help her but stole her dragons and attempted to murderer her? I don't blame Daenerys at all for being a little tough on Jon and I bet if you guys didn't know Jon Snow you would have no problem with her attitude
And on the opposite end you have Jon who seemed rather quick to trust her even though she's a Targaryen and her father was a tyrannical madman. Looks like Jon got hypnotized by the pussy. It happens to the best of us LOL!
r/niceguys
And in the end, Dany snaps and Jon has to kill her anyways.
When i first saw the scene of the drawings in the cave, I couldn’t help but imagine a cut scene where jon was scribbling on the walls before danaerys arrived because it was incredibly convenient for them to be there.
This is the first time the Stark kids have been on screen together since the courtyard scene of Robert’s arrival in Winterfell back in season 1 episode 1!
Yo Bran, can you pass me that salt real qui...
Bran: Chaos is a ladder. 🙄
Hilarious!!!
LMAO
"Isn't their survival more important than your pride?" - Dany
This is the same thing that Jon said to Mance Rayder before he was burned alive.
The difference is: Jon said it to save Mance from being burned alive! Dany is saying it for power!
Exactly!
Dany can tell that Jon is sincere, but it still doesn’t change the fact that she is putting herself (and the people who chose to follow her) at great risk by giving him her forces without anything in return. SHE would be a bad ruler by doing that. Jon is doing the exact same thing she is - expecting help while remaining loyal to their people. The only difference is that we KNOW Jon’s war is more important.
To be fair to Dany, Jon is being ridiculously stubborn. He wants an army and dragons, it doesn’t just fall into his lap because he’s a nice guy. It didn’t even happen in the war of the bastards. Actual northerners refused to help him. Why would a southerner who is trying to be a Queen be any more lenient?
And why does this suddenly make Dany wrong? She’s no different than she’s been before. Everyone in the comments is acting like she’s entitled. As if she’s never locked up her own dragons, or opened fighting pits which went against all her morals, or married herself to a man so that she could better rule her people. Dany makes the good choice, it just doesn’t always pan out well for her. Like Ned. He made the right choice in confessing, it’s just Joffrey was a dick.
Totally agree.
THIS
Jon should offer her an alliance. They could help each other. That would have been actually smart.
@Mercia Silver I do get that she was incredibly hard from the get-go, and she could've approached it differently. When Yara came and asked for a kingdom, she was less discerning and more open, but then, Yara also agreed to support her rule and help her win back the kingdom. Jon did none of that. And I think she was intimidated by Jon, a little, since he's a man with no claims at all and was still named King. When he told her of her family's crimes she asked for forgiveness, but then he still went ahead and told her he wouldn't support her throne.
She felt like she was dealing with someone who didn't want to compromise - and yeah, from a strategic point of view, she was at a HUGE disadvantage since she needs all the support she can get. But all Dany knows is that showing weakness gets you killed. The last time she trusted in a stranger, half her khalasar was murdered and her dragons were stolen. When she reopened the fighting pits, as a way of making peace, she was almost assassinated. She's now saying "alright, I'll fight for you, as long as you support me" which is what she offered for all her allies but he's not doing the same back.
I DO get that her approach "bend the knee" was oddly rough for Dany (and her continuous repetition of it). It's very off-putting. But then, whenever any character is rough to Jon, we all see them as off-putting and in the wrong, even when they're not. Kit does a good job of making Job's point of view feel like the truest one.
@@jamtex2 I totally agree. Yara, the Sand Sister and Olenna did the same. Yara even gets to be a Queen, making Dany the High Queen. So Dany wouldn't be averse to keeping Jon as King.
Sansa-“I remember how happy he was to see me when he sees you his heart will probably stop”
Steven- “Can we not talk about that”
Nikki-“Yeah let’s no talk about that”
Me-*Rolling on the floor silently dying inside*
Steve and Nikki, you should realize that White Walkers is something that nobody believes in despite seeing magic, Season 2 Melisandre didn't believe people could come back from the dead until she met Beric even though she does magic, Tywin and Tyrion both believed in dragons but never White walkers. Magic is more common knowledge than White Walkers, also remember Dany's scene with Varys even though Tyrion defends him Daenerys still confronts him, when she trusts someone she wants to trust him because she does not because her advisors tell her to, you can take Jorah for an example he wasn't aggressive and earned her trust easily and years later she finds out he betrayed her so Daenerys isn't going to rely completely on first impressions
100% this!!
They view Jon as the main character, so they want everybody to just agree with everything he says.
In the first episode of the series Ned Stark said the night watch deserter talking about the white walkers is the “ramblings of a mad man”. It was set up in the first ten minutes of the show that NO ONE believes it.
But If she has seen first hand Dragons coming out stone eggs, they were gone for a long time, and that she can't burn. She won't even give him the benefit of the doubt and make some research? Or she is so special that this kind of thing just happens to her? If she wants to rule the North she should have known this is what they believe in from generations not because Jon says so.
@@mmg1800 Umm Ned Stark didn't believe in them either he called the guy who warned him a Mad Man. My point is that just because a few instances of magic stuff happens to her doesn't mean she's going to believe in everything especially from someone she doesn't know, belief in Westeros is a bit weird because many people see blood magic, god magic but nobody believes in dead coming back to life that would include Tyrion as well he didn't believe Jon because of what he's seen, he believed Jon because unlike Daenerys he knows him well, if he didn't he'd fully be on Daenerys's side
This episode is like an hour long panic attack.
thats the bet way to put it:)
😂😂😂
Well said.
Lol! It really was 😂😂😂!!
The last Dragons people seen 150 years ago, and the last time people saw white walkers was 8000 years ago. Also you have the skulls of dragons (for example in king's landing). Would you believe if some strange person said to you about something without any proof. Except for some drawing that could be easily drawings made even by kids who like that kinda stories, like Bran in season 1.
Even Nights Watch didn't believe in WW. Only after Jeor Mormont was attacked by the dead person they started to take them as a serious threat.
Her dragons came from stone eggs while she was burning her husband's body and she didn't burn . That's not normal.
@@mmg1800 What has one thing to do with the other?
Yeah, it's the difference between believing in mammoths and unicorns. We know the former existed because we have archeological evidence of it.
He wants help, she wants fealty. Fair trade. It's a two way street, guys. Dany didn't come to the 7 kingdoms to suddenly take up some other king's cause and drop her own. I don't get why people don't see her perspective on this. She's not just gonna suddenly go "oh okay forget the only goal I've had for years, run off with you and give my forces to fight mythical snow zombies because Tyrion met you once and said you were chill back then!". She came to conquer.
@Mercia Silver but by choosing to have these people by her side and advise her it shows how smart and self aware she really is. She listens to reason, knows she doesn't know everything, and doesn't try to do everything by herself. What a good rulers should do.
You were all about Dany just leaving Meereen behind and going to Westeros to accomplish her original mission. Now you're irritated because she's... doing exactly that? Because she's not dropping everything she's worked for to help some dude she doesn't even know? And with no proof of the threat he's going on about? And for nothing in return? Look, I get it, it's easier to sympathize with Jon, but that's only because we've seen what he's seen. Dany hasn't. The only thing she sees is the war already in front of her nose. That's her focus because it's real without a shadow of a doubt and it's already in motion. Granted, she could tone down the pomposity a little, even though she's sort of always been this way. I think it's just different now because it's Jon she's talking down to and not some smug slave master.
I know you guys have probably already finished the season by now, so maybe your opinion on this has changed. Not trying to call you out or anything. Just trying to offer some perspective, though it seems like a lot of people have already beaten me to it.
Annnnnd Steven just totally blew over the fact that, to Dany's perspective, a stranger marches into her throne room and demands she drop EVERYTHING she's worked her ENTIRE life for to help him, while he gives absolutely no promises that he'll help her in return, and is in fact insisting that one third of the country she's trying to get back for her family will be GONE at the end of it. That doesn't exactly make a person want to be accommodating. Never forget, we know him. She doesn't. And he didn't exactly phrase his request as anything but a demand. Then again, we all knew Jon was never that good at this negotiations stuff.
Her attitude even before Jon speaks is just ugh.
Jon said the same thing about the pride to Mance Ryder when he didn't agree to bent the knee to Stannis.
@Dark1624
The situations are completely different.
Jon was trying to get Mance to just obey Stannis so the Free Folk would live but those Free Folk would never accept Mance as King if he bent to a southerner.
Daenerys wants Jon to surrender because she wants the world to bow at her divinely ordained feet.
@@Longshanks1690 So Jon basically is just stubborn like her. He won't bend the knee because of his pride, and she will help him only if he will pledge himself to her cause.
@Dark1624 *Sigh*
Me: Dany has these attributes.
Dany Fanboy: YEAH BUT JON FUCKING SUCKS TOO!!!
Me: I...don't care. Dany has these attributes.
Dany Fanboy: BUH....BUH JOOONNNNN!
Please stop. I don't care about Jon, I am talking about Daenerys.
Now, Jon did not want to be made King in the North but his bannermen named him so. Because they trusted him and believed in him, as he went to war in desperate odds and was prepared to fight for what was Just, even to the bitter end.
If he bends the Knee, he loses not only his "pride," but he betrays his own supporters because they want HIM to lead them, not some foreigner they never met, whose fathers fought to overthrow her own.
Daenerys has lived a life of privilege, with a few periods of exception, with everything she has being handed to her by other people - her name by her father, her husband by her brother and everything she owns by her Dragons.
And for some reason, she now believes this means SHE is fit to be Empress of the Universe, simply because she believes she should be.
She turns up in a continent she has never lived in, demanding to be acknowledged as it's Queen for no other reason than she feels entitled to it.
Jon acts out of duty and honour.
Daenerys acts out of greed, pride and lust.
Do you fucking see the difference between them?
The Northerners would never accept a southern ruler? I think you've already forgotten that that's exactly what Jon's bannermen said to Jon in his meeting before he agreed to travel to meet Daenarys. It's the exact same situation, and that's intentional from the showrunners.
@@Longshanks1690 OH another Daenerys hater.
How she had everything handed to her? She was sold and raped. Dorthraki left her after Drogo died. She married a man she despised only to keep a fragile peace in Mereen. From the moment she was born she was hiding because Robert was sending assassins after her and Viserys. This Tyrion quote from ADWD perfectly represents why she is like this.
“I know that she spent her childhood in exile, impoverished, living on dreams and schemes, running from one city to the next, always fearful, never safe, friendless but for a brother who was by all accounts half-mad...a brother who sold her maidenhood to the Dothraki for the promise of an army. I know that somewhere upon the grass, her dragons hatched, and so did she. I know she is proud. How not? What else was left her but pride? I know she is strong. How not? The Dothraki despise weakness. If Daenerys had been weak, she would have perished with Viserys. I know she is fierce. Astapor, Yunkai and Meereen are proof enough of that. She has survived assassins and conspiracies and fell sorceries, grieved for a brother and a husband and a son, trod the cities of the slavers to dust beneath her dainty sandalled feet."
Second: Torrhen Stark bend the knee to Aegon the Conqueror and because of that saved the north.
*"You're a dragon. Be a dragon."*
- The late Olenna Tyrell.
Nikki you seem to fail to realize that Daenerys talking about his pride isn't her denying her own pride, she is questioning his intentions, if this threat is real if it is important they fight together if they're survival is at stake why doesn't Jon just do this? If he does it she'll give him what she wants and everyone can be saved so why isn't he trying to compromise knowing she has no idea what it is they're fighting but he does. She's trying to figure him out
Amen sis
blah blah blah. Murderer of innocent men, women and children. How do you like them apples now? LMFAO
Why should he bend the kney lol. They both needed each other, U are biased dude. Jon was fighting for mankind unlike Dany who just wanted the Throne. Jon doesn't give Shitt about King and Queen. and as he said if he had bent the knee, his ppl would've lost faith in him. U don't understand these things
And just look at Dany she was starting to become more arrogant, power was getting to her head
@@6oLsh0i6o0z3 fk them people, following Queen Cersei Is a crime.
@@Oliver-es6qv you've written the same comment 50 times lmao. Get a life. moreover, Jon says he's fighting for humankind and the king/queen who's on the throne doesn't matter. but then contradicts himself by saying the North's independence matters. He can't get a cake and eat it too
"Chaos is a ladder." Littlefinger's face was EVERYTHING.
This is pretty much how Daenerys has acted from the beginning, no? She threatened to burn Qarth to the ground. She told her original khalassar that their enemies would "die screaming." She told that guy from Astapor that she'd kill him and she took his gold. And then she crucified 150+ guys in Mereen along with feeding a guy to her dragons.
But because we like Jon we're suddenly shocked she's being "rude"?
@zammmerjammer Hey, I'm consistent.
I've hated her since the beginning and NEVER want to see her on the Iron Throne. This scene just affirmed what I already knew about her.
Dany is actually a main villain.
I agree, but I also think she's extra weird now because of the lack of quality in writing these episodes. I feel like she's become a caricature of herself.
@@ithinkiamoscar bullshit
@@carlos0907 A main villain, lmfao.
Trusting new people always bit Dany in the butt in the past. She has trust issues. She's not just gonna stop fighting her war and trust a stranger right away. It's not in her character after everything she went through since season 1.
''Drops everything to watch this..'' love you guys ;-)
same :)
lol Same
Same
I know these feels.
I know right, the hype got beyond real with them stopping last week right before this episode haha xD Le-eee-ts GO!
I don't get how people use today's political style of reasoning to evaluate Daenery's. She was raised in a time where Kings and Queen's wishes were sacrosanct. She has been raised from day one that she is of the ruling blood of this kingdom. The bending of the knee of her subjects IS HER RIGHT! This was not a democracy. Add to this, these subjects, Jon's father, rose up and to slay the members of the royal family whom had ruled for thousands of years. For her personal safety it's understandable that she feels she most subjugate the lords who rebelled. In this time being nice gets you viewed as weak and over-throne.
blah blah blah blah..She's is a conqueror not a ruler, plus she's not even the rightful heir to the throne ffs. Now she got 1 more self-proclaimed title under her own belt which is, *"Murderer of innocent men, women and children"*
How you like them apples? HAHAHAHAHA
@@6oLsh0i6o0z3 but she was the rightful heir, at least before we knew about Jon
Why should he bend the kney lol. They both needed each other, U are biased dude. Jon was fighting for mankind unlike Dany who just wanted the Throne. Jon doesn't give Shitt about King and Queen. and as he said if he had bent the knee, his ppl would've lost faith in him. U don't understand these things
And just look at Dany she was starting to become more arrogant, power was getting to her head
Bran has watched the entire series, the history and lore and all the books. He's probably even seen Season 8. Dammit!
Yes he saw season 8, thats why he is so numb all the time....
so he really has seen everything...
16:35 - I actually thought that Jurassic Theme tune would start playing, even though I've seen this before. 😂🤣
Same
This season is chalk full of season 1 callbacks. That front gate with Arya is a callback to when Arya was dirty from chasing that cat, and she was trying to get back in to tell Ned what she heard in the cellar. They wouldn't let her in at first, but she told them she was Ned Starks daughter and she'd box their ears.
The words Dany said to Jon about him putting his pride before his people, is a callback to Jon talking to Mance Rader about him bending the knee to Stannis to spare the wildlings. But in this situation, her father did murder their Stark leaders in the north. The north remembers.
Brandon has been hollowed out from too much information download. He wasn't being arrogant to Meera, though. He has lost a large part of his humanity to take on being the 3 eyed raven.
Jon and Davos probably scribbled those drawings on the rocks before Dany walked in lol
13:38 LMAO AWWW sister talks are always so heartwarming. I remember nights with my own sister... braiding each other’s hair and giggling about murder...
Dany is the best thing in this show
@Ibrahim Alkhatab
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Watching this reaction, I only just realized that Arya received two special blades from two different brothers.
The two brothers she was always closest to. Awww, only GoT can give me the feels over a girl receiving gifts used for killing. ;)
"There's something else I want to show you, My Grace."
Jon leads The Dragon Queen around a rocky bend.
"Jon Snow, why is there a hot tub in this cave?"
Waited, all morning for this.
"Targaryens aren't immune to fire they have high tolerance of Fire"~George RR Martin
19:41 and this is the start where Jon wants to believe in her so he appeals to her better nature Jonerys
You guys had no idea how amazing it was to finally see Arya, Sansa and Brandan reunite. You are lucky you caught it now versus many fans who seen it waited years YEARS after YEARS to see them back together. They have not been together since season 1, and every year that pass, we lost more starks, and it was devastating. Was losing faith they would ever reunite, and then it happens now. It was incredibly emotional to see this.
Meera- “You don’t need me anymore”
Bran- “No I don’t”
Nikki- “ RoOoOoOoOoD”
Me- *Silently cries 🤣🤣
Again yall think Danny should drop everything and help a random with nothing in return??
yeah they do
@@ladyish0968 yeah clearly
Yo. Dany is so misunderstood. It hurts. 😑 IT'S A FUCKING WAR YALL. EITHER YOU KILL OR YOU GET KILLED. IF YOU TRUST.... YOU'LL GET BEHEADED
@@okihaveaname atm jon provided no proof jon saw the Dragons so Danny doesn't have to believe anything plus Dragons in that world was a big thing and something recent not something believed to be a fairytale from thousands of years ago
Daimon Mcilwain And this is exactly why I have a problem with Dany. It's always, always, always "what can you give me", or "what do you have that I want", or "I'll take what you have, and feel justified in doing so, because I'm right". It's "me, me, me". Jon, on the other hand, has never done anything that was for his own self. Everything Jon does is because it's good for his family, brothers of the Night's Watch, the Wildlings, the North, and now the whole realm. He went south, into a situation that was dangerous for him & with little protection of his own, to face a "ruler" he knew nothing about. Even after being told that it's possible that he's a captive at Dragonstone, he's still concerned enough about the threat in the north that he's willing to put aside the issue and just mine the dragonglass that he came for. I don't hate Dany, far from it actually, but I do love what Jon stands for. He's sacrificed a lot for the good of EVERYONE, not just himself. Dany has worked hard to get what she's gotten, and her speech to Jon in the throne room, on their first meet, we are reminded of everything she's accomplished, and I appreciate her for that. But everything Dany has accomplished was to get her closer to the throne, and everything that Jon has accomplished was all to save people - not just slaves, but everyone.
I don’t know if you guys know but Maisie (Arya) and Sophie (Sansa) have been really close friends since they got casted back in 2009. Even though Sansa and Arya haven’t appeared on screen together since season 1, they’ve been best friends so they were really excited for Arya and Sansa to meet up again. They also have huge bubbly personalities so they were sort of troublemakers on set and Kit (Jon) actually views them as younger sisters because he finds them as annoying as an older brother would lmao.
BRIA. They're called Mophie. Last week Maisie's new play--it's her theatrical debut--officially opened. Kit, Richard (Robb), John (Sam) were there. She got rave reviews...and from what I saw deserved them.
Not only that. You had no issue when a man in Stannis made People declare for him like The people at castle black. See the difference is you like John do you don’t want him to have to bow down. Fine but then he’s in open rebellion and an enemy. I don’t know what people thought was going to happen. You have to bow to royalty or die. Dorne, tyrells all sides with Dany. Nobody had an issue. Jon refuses. Well this is exactly what would happen with any ruler. What would happen if Robert summoned Jon and he refused to bow? Exact same shot except Jon might be killed. As for not believing in white walkers, NOBODY, believes in them. Ned didn’t. Stannis barely cared. Walkers surely wasn’t his priority it was taking the throne. They start the show establishing that nobody has seen white walkers in a thousand years. Come on if someone tells you someone that hasn’t been alive since the year 1018 is walking around you might be skeptical. And again it’s not like all of Westeros is preparing. Most of the word is clueless.
This is my all-time favorite episode. I couldn't breath the ENTIRE episode. I didn't know who to root for and it gave me the ultimate mind****. I've really enjoyed watching you guys I've been watching non-stop for 3 days now. I'm now a subscriber! Can't wait for season 8!
Loved when Little Finger got scared when Bran repeated his line to him 'Chaos is the Ladder'. Little Finger was probably wondering who in the heck told him that lol.
Shouldn't Bran remember who pushed him out of the cave now, since he can see the past now?
Fun Fact: The idea for Bran's numbness to everything came from Isaac Hempstead Wright (who plays Bran) trying to play him as a sort of Dr. Manhattan kind of character, like the way Billy Crudup played that character in "Watchmen".
"Isn't their survival more important than your pride." jon said that to the king beyond the wall
Never have I looked forward to a Tuesday...until Nikki & Steven came into my life!
I am sure there's a lot of people screaming already about the parallels between Jon + Mance Rayder talk (when The King Beyond the Wall was captured at the wall) and Jon + Daenerys talk in that cave. It is really daunting to have your own words of wisdom thrown back at you & a real eye opener to find yourself on the other side in similar situations.
Finally Arya is back😍😍
I don’t even care that I’m watching this in my lecture😂
daenerys: knock knock
jon: who's there?
daenerys: ben
jon: ben who?
daenerys: ben the knee
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
“She could be real dangerous with that...” I love these reactions.
19:57 Jon unkowingly appealing to Daenerys' desire to "break the wheel"
"Isn't their survival more important than your pride?"
Daenarys accidentally quoting Jon Snow's own line back at him. Jon said the same thing to Mance Rayder in season 5, to bend the knee to Stannis to save his people and get them South of the Wall.
There are many times in the show that people learn from those they interact with, and it influences them later on. Here, we see Jon has learned from Mance, and is displaying some of the same traits.
People should lighten up on bran. The guy literally has seen EVERYTHING that has or is happening. He is desensitized and numb. Can you imagine seeing and probably feeling everything that going on in the world and to whom its happening?
When Catelyn warned Robb not to break his vow to Walter Frey, Robb accused her of hypocrisy and ignored her. Nevertheless, did that make Catelyn wrong? NO. Does Dany have pride? Yes. But does that diminish the fact that Jon is equally unwilling to relinquish his crown? NO.
Another Novel Note: Historically, the Lannisters were the wealthiest family in Westeros with the gold mines of Casterly Rock. The Tyrells of Highgarden were the second wealthiest because they had the most farmlands and fed half of Westeros. After Robert's Rebellion, the Tyrells were pardoned, but had to pay large sums of gold to Jon Arryn instead of offering a family member as collateral. As Tywin made repeated loans of gold to King Robert, that gold went to pay for the wine and food from Highgarden at prices set by the Tyrells. Thus, in the modern age, the Tyrells (unknown to anyone) had become wealthier than the Lannisters.
Nikki: He's a BARATHEON!
Nikki: Wait.....
What Dany said to Jon in the cave, it's what he said to Mance before he died.
Having pizza and coke right now!right way to enjoy any of your videos besides a cup of coffee and cake!hugs and kisses from denmark
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I'm sure Jon made those drawings. They look silly chalk made 😅😅😅
Omg Nikki I am TOTALLY here for the Princess Bride quotes!😍🤣 INCONCEIVABLE!
can we talk about how EDDIE from stranger things is the guard that spoke to arya at the gate of winter fell !!!! so crazy
First episode of the season, Jon says to Sansa "I am the king and my thats my decision. So the whole criticizing Dany for saying the same doesn't make any sense.
Completely different situations.
Watching this again.. why was I so shocked when Dany went fully mad? Her irrational (although not mad) side is clearly demonstrated here..
For Daenerys here Goal has been to get back to Westeros and take the Iron throne, yanno for 6 seasons that's been where she has headed, and so i think she is just so in that mindset now that she's just a little bit distanced from anything else, don't forget shes only supposed to be a young teenager in this, and she feels she waiting long enough to be the rightful queen. I mean jon should have just bent the knee and we'd all be sound :P - Sorry no hate, ya.ll just know I'll Stan Daeny till death
Great reaction guys! It's interesting watching two characters you love come together with their two different viewpoints.
A few things about the cave: Notice the swirly marks made on the cave. They are the same marks the white walkers have been making all throughout the series with dead bodies/dead horses.
Also, Dany asking Jon if the survival of his people is more important than his pride. The exact same question Jon asked Mance Rayder. Probably good that he didn't give the same "fuck my pride" answer :p
The spiral is a sign that has been shown to be a favorite of both the Children of the Forest and the White Walkers. It can be explained as we know the WW were created by the Children of the Forest. I believe in the cave they are supposed to have been drawn or carved by the Children, not the WW.
@@aaronia8092 I reread my comment. I didn't mean to imply the cave marks were made by the WWs. I just meant to point out that they are making the same marks throughout the series. And yes, it's b/c the Children made the WWs in the first place. Magic symbolism it seems-one I'm sure the GoT community discusses at length somewhere. Thanks for pointing out the ambiguity of my OP. I needed to correct that.
2AM here in Melbourne, Australia and I'm watching you guys. You guys are so likeable, great at expressing and just genuine !
Yay! I've been looking forward to this episode reaction for months! lol. One of the many epic episodes of this series that leaves me completely exhausted by the end to where all I can do is say out loud "omg, I need a drink!"
P.S. thanks for doing this in two parts. I know how much work it takes to edit these and some of these episodes really deserve the extra bit. Enjoying these soooo much!
12:45 Six years waiting for that hug!!!! You have no idea, 6 freakin' years!!! Children were born in 2011 and started 1st grade at school during this scene!!!
Keep it up guys Jon sparing Theon was realistic much as he hates him for attacking Winterfell and betraying Robb he knows the bigger threat is coming and he can’t afford to cause discord among alliances because he feels Theon should be punished. Its another difference between Jon as he can show mercy in a way Robb didn’t. The parallels of Arya returning to Winterfell echoed a lot like the King’s landings scene from season 1.
Currently dying in my 3rd year of architecture school, these videos give me life. I see them on my feed like an inhaler during an asthma attack tbh
I had been waiting for this for almost a week!
I just always imagine Jon with a piece of chalk quickly drawing white walkers on the walls just to prove his point to Daenerys and it makes me laugh 😂
The dagger is worth half a kingdom; it's valyrian steel, gold and dragon bone. An ancient artifact likely brought over by Aegon when he conqured Westeros. It also appeared in that book Sam was reading a few episodes back.
The irony is that Ned refused to have her assassinated when Robert found out she was pregnant, I guess Varys didn't tell her that part? Also, that Ned's been protecting a Targaryen his whole life, but whatevs.
I literally scrolled your account the whole day!! Could not wait. Love from the Netherlands!!!
" He doesn't want anything just help", according to Nikki. Are you kidding me lol?? No he just wants her dragons armies and everything else while he gives up nothing in return. What do you expect her to do? She's here for a purpose and thats the iron throne and is suppose to give that up that after one guy, who she doesn't know just shows up and says some things haven't existed after 8,000 yrs and shows up w/out any proof.
Same with Jon. Why would he give away the land he just won back from traitors. His home, her sisters home. They suffered a lot to win Winterfell back. All the northerners were threaten and brutilized by the Boltons. Jon's been fighting all his to keep people safe. He was named King in the North by the people. Why would he bend the knee to someone that calls herself Queen of the 7 Kingdoms If she doesn't even know those Kingdoms or their people. She just came and occupied an abbandoned Castle (I know she was born there) and says I'm the rightful queen. Nope. Her father was taken down because he was mad. It's being said Robert Baratheon ruled well, shit went down in KL since Joffrey. She sounds very much like Viserys (not at the same douchy level) but she is the one that must understand that to rule well her dragons are not the solution, she has to win the people first because in the 7 Kingdoms she is the stranger not Jon. She is the one that has to prove she is reliable.
@@mmg1800 The same reason that Jon 'gives away his land' as you called it, is the same reason he does so later in Episode 6. She's the only one out of anybody else in the show that has the strength and power to protect everybody in the seven kingdoms and the precious North. She's the one who comes to save Jon during the wight hunt and he realises what kind of peson she is, proving how 'reliable' she is. Also, how much of a stranger is she really when 3 of the 7 kingdoms are already allied with her?? "understand that to rule well her dragons are not the solution", thats such a bullshit statement. Please tell me a time in Mereen when she was ruling and dealing with a diplomatic issue but she couldn't do it so her dragons took care of it for her. Did she get the Geryjoys by making them submit to her dragons, or did she use diplomacy to get them on her side. "Robert ruled well" This must be a typo unless you're actually that stupid.
Someone pointed out something that made me think last video. Small instances of magic are widely accepted in Westeros and there are proof of the dragons by the skulls in King’s Landing. As far as a massive undead army coming to kill everyone while Cersei and Daenerys are fighting over the iron throne is actually a bit of a stretch.
when Bran said "Chaos is a ladder" after little finger mentioned " chaos" in his sentence, because little finger said that to Lord Varys (the spider) in season 3 I think. So that is why Little finger was very surprised and looked terrified of Bran.
I'm years behind but I am hilariously happy that one of the guards blocking Arya from entering was Eddie Munson's actor from Stranger Things. XD
Something I never knew while watching this show: I always wondered why they were just letting Bran sit out in the forest alone. It's never made clear in the show, but the whole wooded area around the tree with the red leaves is an enclosed section of Winterfell, like a giant courtyard.
In that intro, Steven nailed the issues with the way Dany has approached her arrival in Westeros and her attitude towards Jon.
Lore stuffs:
Back when Aegon the conqueror came to Westeros, he went north and told King Torrhen Stark to bend the knee as well. Torrhen knew if he didn't, many of his people would die, if not all of them. He bent the knee, and is forever known as The King Who Knelt.
So true Nikki, the music is amazing. It's kind of a character. The Starks music is sad and beautiful.
OMG, I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH, YOUR AMAZING
also this episode is one of my favs :)
Been refreshing my feed for this reaction. Now have to refresh to get part 2.
Having a nice up of coffee and a biscuit 🍪 while watching Nikki and Steven reaction and the sun is shining. Ahh life is good.
Signed up to your patreon this mornng, loving the content guys.
That simple "Thank you, Podrick" had so much underneath it. What a great acting performance.
18:30 Remember when Jon asked Mance Rayder the exact same thing when he tried to convince him to bend the knee to Stannis? She hit the right spot there, as Jon's now in pretty much the same situation.
Baelish's face when Bran says Chaos is a ladder LOL
Been waiting for this for ages
It seems like ages since you last uploaded a GOT reaction. I had actually forgotten that this episode is 'The Spoils of War'. Woooooooooooooo
"Chaos is a ladder". That's the exact same thing Little finger said to Varys in the throne room. He was shocked to hear that. Probably pissed himself a bit.
OMG I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SH*T, LOL. Couldn't WAIT to see you guys reach this episode, hahahaha
"Command respect, not demand respect" - Nikki, I love you! XD
I loved the scene in the cave when they show White walkers, it gives such a strong sense of threat. This is HOW you can make a truly powerful villain and yet know so little about that adversary.