We sent Beginners down a Waterfall.
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- We sent Beginners down a Waterfall.
Low Force at Tyne Tour 2022 - UoB Kayak
-Low Force waterfall on the 2nd day of Tyne Tour 2022 - UoB Kayak Club
00:00 - 00:12 Intro
00:12 to 01:37 Kayaking
(Dom, Bea, Katie, Bron, Tom Leigh, Marco, Sam Grigg, Dan Potts, Ceri, Emma, Dodi, Kelly, Rachel)
01:37 to 01:47 Bea and Murray in the Duo
01:47 to 02:30 Kayaking
(Fran, Murray, Will Dove, Shrimp, Adam)
02:30 to 03:19 Murray's Swim
03:19 to 03:30 Packing up
03:30 to 03:41 Outro 
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This is the perfect way to introduce newbies to running waterfalls. No consequences, with a rolling lip that requires a late boof stroke, which shows that timing is everything in kayaking!
now that's what I call a top club trip - I bet all those newbies will never forget that day
Kayaker humour. Gotta love it!
Looks like a fun day on the water! Getting the feel for the boof stroke can be tricky, I bet the next time these guys go out they'll have a better grip on it.
We were on our first river of the day. With a second one to run we didn't want to waste any time. The first really big rapid was a 20' waterfall. Usually we would take the new paddlers out above the falls and look at it, But, we didn't want to waste any time. So I talked the three girls into following me. I took the safest line and they all ran it. Successful, we stopped and they walked back up for a second run. But I knew the river and the line. There were no variables to be concerned about, however in afterthought, I don't think I would do that again. Every paddler should know what they are getting into before they go
Magic! and in the duo as well.
This really shows the difference how easy the pros make it look, to how hard it can be for a newbie. Also shows how important a good boof stroke really is!
a lot of floaters getting hammered
This looks fun. With a group there like this it look safer
Doing god's work. Awesome video.
1:11 and 1:14 actually nailed it…maybe the instructor
yup
Boooff.
02:00 nice, not easy to hit.
whole lotta things i ain;t done...but one of'em ain't having too much fun
Kudos for those Beginners trying that and if that guy at 1:12 is a beginner - he'll go far. Wish my college had a kayak club back in the day. Really cool. Here in the US , the schools would be scared shitless of the liability and not support it.
A LOT of colleges in the US have a beginner-intermediate whitewater course.
The beginners were scared to do this but guy at 1:12 is not a beginner. Most Uni's in the UK have kayak clubs and we're always wanting to do more cool white water!
@@teleyakco I wish mine - PSU, did (late 80's .) That's great. It's an awesome thing to be part of.
Thus teaching the importance of a good boof stroke.
St louis? Jay cooke?
What river is this?
River Tees
Never seen a river of coke ever before!
Hey I would do it
Somebody should have taught them how to boof off the lip and land flat. I wish someone had taught me that. I was always nose diving into holes and getting stuck just like these guys were. Boofing is an all too neglected skill.
We did explain how to boof beforehand but this wasn't a beginner friendly place to learn :) Lots of people tried too early and just missed it - the correct place was about 1/4 down the drop.
yes , at my Time 30 Years ago, nobody knew about the Boof-Stroke...we all Submarined : always... luck if shot straight up, or rolling ;-) I really would like to try a modern Creeker and try to boof... but i am 58 now with dying Kidneys...
@@murrayweir Ahhhh, well at least you (and they) tried. As a beginner, I would have been pretty freaked at going over a drop that size to begin with - "technique" be damned. LOL! 😄
When you say "beginners," do you literally mean people who never kayaked before? I guess I would not have the guts to do this. I kayaked a few times 20 years ago in lakes, the people in charge of the group called it "sea-kayaking" and towed us back to shore if we were too tired to get back on our own.
We took a bunch of people, some experienced and some people who had only kayaked in a pool once before + one river the day before. Your sea kayaking sounds much more responsible for the leaders. We were only doing this one section and had rescue set up so it was ok to send our beginners down this waterfall.
many of them are trying to roll at the wrong side where a paddle is blocked by the rocks. The thing I don't understand why there are not trying to change the rolling side or to try one more time.
In my experience it's almost always reasonable to try at least 3-4 times to roll up as the time to get on the land and get back your kayak after you give up is huge. Also the stamina consumption to get rid of the water in kayak, especially on a step hills, is too big.
For many beginner and even intermediate paddlers, rolling consistently on whitewater is a slow acquisition skill. Safe to assume many would only be confident rolling on their dominant side, and even those who have the technical ability "in lab conditions" also need to acquire the mental resilience to hold on and attempt rolls multiple times/on different sides.
If my uni club experience is anything to go by, some of these guys won't have been in a boat before six months ago and their rolling experience will have been predominantly pool-based (correct me if I'm talking out of my hat, Murray Weir!), so the fact they're even feeling up to attempting a roll is a good sign! Great edit, by the way!
@@MatthewBrookKayaking Ok, clear. It just collides with my experience in beginner preparation. In Belarus we don't allow beginners to get in the real water if they hadn't complete full winter pool course. And first tours are always only about lines and rolling in real conditions. We are not that connected to paddlers from Europe, possibly its even first video with beginners from West i saw. Overall here is a big difference, as for example we are using back deck rolling as default.
@@user-vm1uc9cu5u that's super interesting. Thanks for sharing. So interesting to hear how different folks approach teaching.
To be clear, this style of teaching, where beginners get thrown off waterfalls really early in their progression, isn't massively common here either. Uni clubs sometimes do it to give their new members a taste of steeper whitewater in a (relatively) controlled environment. But I wholeheartedly agree in teaching a solid base of fundamentals before people start pushing into harder moving water.
@@MatthewBrookKayaking Probably it's not that bad to do some stuff like this, at least a lot of fun. Our approach is different due to the mostly poor landscape in urban areas in the East. There's almost no 1-3 days tours, as very always to get to the river we need about two days in one direction. Also the rivers are commonly not good accessible - you need to paddle a big distances before a transport will find a spot. So in such a way it's not that much about safety, but about time. When you have a fixed time amount to complete river, you cannot allow people to do a big amount of simple mistakes.
I can give also another example how technical reasons are changing extreme sports. In USSR was no civil plastic industry and therefore were no plastic kayaks, classical rafts creating technologies were also not available that time. All this led to the development of custom folded kayaks and so called whitewater catamarans. Till this days these boats a very common in our area, but almost unknown in another world. And if folded kayaks can withstand only 2-3+ rivers, catamarans are the real alternative for people who want to hold a team spirit from rafting and advanced paddling methods. Here is the video you may find interesting:
ruclips.net/video/pqjgpe3qfzY/видео.html
@@user-vm1uc9cu5u that's awesome! Thanks for sharing; so easy for us in the West to take for granted how easily we can access both rivers and gear. But this makes me want to head out on expedition again!