Very nice video guys!!! I was really waiting for the full review! I can say that a lot of things in the review are accurate: sadly the buses do make a bit of vibration noises on bad roads, though on the Transdev version in the Netherlands it sounds a little bit better with less vibration, but it’s still more than you would expect. On the other hand a lot of Dutch drivers (on both the 2.2 and 3.0’s) are very (and I say very) positive about MirrorEye, the distance lines show you where the different parts of the vehicle are, the orange line is the best since it’s your second axle, so for cornering you can just monitor the line and if that line doesn’t hit the curb, you’ll make the corner, though I do also experience the slight lack of depth. The seats on this MVG model look very hard indeed, I can luckily say that the Dutch 12 meter models feature Kiel seats that do have sufficient padding, it doesn’t feel like a touring car obviously, but I can say that those are pretty comfortable. Thanks for the review guys! I really love watching your videos, keep it up!
Over here in Singapore, the closest to Ebusco we have here is a SG4012C, an FTBCI electric bus with an Ebusco 2.0 body. And wow, you guys have great taste in setting the mood for the video with the introduction music. For those curious, this is the music. dvine - Timeless Serenity (Royalty Free Music)
This bus was in passenger service for 3 days in Munich. The acceleration is really great on inclines. The interior of the test bus is intended for the Munich transport company. The darkened windows are really practical on hot days. However, the noise from the engines is very annoying in the long run, especially if you sit further back in the bus.
@@paqiuman966 They chose weight over sound proofing, like in the race cars 😜😂. I have to say that I’m personally not bothered by the sound, although I have always liked diesel buses for their sounds, so I’m actually glad that these EV’s still sound somewhat exciting…
600km of range with just 383kwh seems a little bit excessive, even for a light weight bus like that. Maybe it´s a mix up, this test bus has 383kwh and with the maximum amount of batteries possible, you get 600km of range. In my opinion they over did it a little bit, too much weight reduction, no insulation, bad suspension, very rattle interior and don´t get me started with that dashboard! Why didn´t they use the 2.2 dashboard, which is much more ergonomic and user friendly? Maybe if you order them, you can annoy them long enough until they give it the 2.2 dashboard.
We re just referring to the data the company gives us about the bus. But, we also think the range is way too high. So, let’s see what operators can get out of the vehicles when someone one day in the far future will start using them. So far we’ve ink seen this prototype
the ebusco 3.0 can be produced by the company self.It depends on Chinese factories no longer.How many axles do the motors drive?How many e motors does the bus have?
It is sooo close to the ground. I saw it with our 3.0's. So so so close. You don't want to go over speed bumps as you hit them with the middle part. You say you can get 600km with 383 Kwh. This is impossible. The articulated ebusco 2.2 has a usage of 1.3 to 1.4 Kwh/km in real life operation. Impossible that the new one could get half. Just impossible
@@Maximevete it’s not really, Ebusco 2.0’s are very old (and the second Ebusco vehicle ever), the 2.2’s already have good range (a friend of mine got 0.85 kWh/km during normal operation), so the 2.2’s are already a lot better than the 2.0’s, and then the 3.0 is also 33% lighter than the 2.2, so depending on the battery pack you get the range will be way way better that the 2.0 or 2.2 Edit: there are no articulated Ebusco 2.0’s
@@kevin_van_den_berg yeah, I was wrong, we have 2.2's😎 concerning the battery usage. You can get 0.85Kwh, I agree..but only in the best possible situation. About 17 degrees celcius outside so no ac or heating necessary. No halting for traffic lights or very slowly braking so every Watt goes back in to the battery. A very calm bus,... You cannot count on that value when making vehicle schedules. Edit: also, if you have an accident with a 3.0, the whole frame breaks very easy so you lose the bus for a very long time...
@@Maximevete The 0.85 kWh/km was during normal operation in a city, although I should have clarified it was on a 12 meter model. But city operation does have a lot of constant acceleration and braking, and mind that the 0.85 kWh/km was the average from his whole shift day, so it could indeed be above or below that. I have not yet heard concerns about crashes, actually I mostly know benefits, they have already had a few small incidents here, on one hand I do know that carbon fiber is more expensive than say plastic or aluminum, so that could be a little thing to worry about. But what many people don’t know is that the carbon body is actually stronger than aluminum/steel (that’s why they use it in F1 cars and other sports cars 😜), so the frame probably won’t break more easily than a conventional frame. On another positive note though, if a part of the bus structure, or let’s say the side wall breaks, Ebusco (or in house mechanics) can actually just “cut” out part of the vehicle and replace a whole side wall or whatever part of the vehicle, and glue/bond it together, restoring the original integrity. But I think what you are maybe referring to is that carbon breaks instead of aluminium, which of course bends, so that is a concern, but we will find out if, or better said when one of these buses gets a big accident… 😅 Concerning the range I know that most (electric) car manufacturers usually always test vehicles in perfect conditions. I don’t know how much this happens with buses, but it would probably be the best option to test instead of speculate, of course with cars a few curious journalists will be guaranteed to drive electric cars all the way from 100% to 0% with real world conditions 😂
Enough is enough! Now I hope Nobina cancels the contract with Ebusco. Dealing with such unprofessional actors has caused significant problems for both the passengers in Oslo and the politicians’ ambitions to make Oslo the world’s first city with only electric buses!
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Very nice video guys!!! I was really waiting for the full review! I can say that a lot of things in the review are accurate: sadly the buses do make a bit of vibration noises on bad roads, though on the Transdev version in the Netherlands it sounds a little bit better with less vibration, but it’s still more than you would expect.
On the other hand a lot of Dutch drivers (on both the 2.2 and 3.0’s) are very (and I say very) positive about MirrorEye, the distance lines show you where the different parts of the vehicle are, the orange line is the best since it’s your second axle, so for cornering you can just monitor the line and if that line doesn’t hit the curb, you’ll make the corner, though I do also experience the slight lack of depth. The seats on this MVG model look very hard indeed, I can luckily say that the Dutch 12 meter models feature Kiel seats that do have sufficient padding, it doesn’t feel like a touring car obviously, but I can say that those are pretty comfortable.
Thanks for the review guys!
I really love watching your videos, keep it up!
The seats of the MVG are perfectly okay, I know much more uncomfortable ones.
@@philipp6800BVG Citea LLE seats are the worst ones i’ve been on
Thanks for great feedback and thoughts! Means a lot 😁🚌
Over here in Singapore, the closest to Ebusco we have here is a SG4012C, an FTBCI electric bus with an Ebusco 2.0 body.
And wow, you guys have great taste in setting the mood for the video with the introduction music. For those curious, this is the music.
dvine - Timeless Serenity (Royalty Free Music)
Thanks a lot for great feedback! It takes long time to make each video, so this warms an overworked heart!
Yet another magneficent video packed with toms of information
Glad to hear 😁
tom is a great host!
He really is!
Nice you make a POV drive video
Should do it!
This bus was in passenger service for 3 days in Munich. The acceleration is really great on inclines. The interior of the test bus is intended for the Munich transport company. The darkened windows are really practical on hot days. However, the noise from the engines is very annoying in the long run, especially if you sit further back in the bus.
I don't know why they didn't sound proof it better. It's one of the first things you think about when you go electric, silence and 0 pollution.
@@paqiuman966 They chose weight over sound proofing, like in the race cars 😜😂. I have to say that I’m personally not bothered by the sound, although I have always liked diesel buses for their sounds, so I’m actually glad that these EV’s still sound somewhat exciting…
Then you had the same experience as us 🚌💪
True!
It’s way too much sounds in this vehicle
600km of range with just 383kwh seems a little bit excessive, even for a light weight bus like that. Maybe it´s a mix up, this test bus has 383kwh and with the maximum amount of batteries possible, you get 600km of range.
In my opinion they over did it a little bit, too much weight reduction, no insulation, bad suspension, very rattle interior and don´t get me started with that dashboard! Why didn´t they use the 2.2 dashboard, which is much more ergonomic and user friendly? Maybe if you order them, you can annoy them long enough until they give it the 2.2 dashboard.
We re just referring to the data the company gives us about the bus. But, we also think the range is way too high. So, let’s see what operators can get out of the vehicles when someone one day in the far future will start using them. So far we’ve ink seen this prototype
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Nice video, greetings from Sweden.
Hei Sverige 😁😁
@@bussmagasinet1 Hej Norge😄
hei tilbake her wietze braem fra Adinkerke, Belgia den rutebussen som du viser nå er laget utelukkende av karbon, jeg så det på bussverdenen i Brussel
Korrekt
the ebusco 3.0 can be produced by the company self.It depends on Chinese factories no longer.How many axles do the motors drive?How many e motors does the bus have?
It uses the ZF AxTrax AVE130 in a puller configuration, so on the second axle.
All your questions are answered in the video! Just watch
3.0 still manufactured in china 😢
There's two motors in the ave130 axle
@@remigiuszkrok3192 true, one for each wheel
It is sooo close to the ground. I saw it with our 3.0's. So so so close. You don't want to go over speed bumps as you hit them with the middle part. You say you can get 600km with 383 Kwh. This is impossible. The articulated ebusco 2.2 has a usage of 1.3 to 1.4 Kwh/km in real life operation. Impossible that the new one could get half. Just impossible
@@Maximevete it’s not really, Ebusco 2.0’s are very old (and the second Ebusco vehicle ever), the 2.2’s already have good range (a friend of mine got 0.85 kWh/km during normal operation), so the 2.2’s are already a lot better than the 2.0’s, and then the 3.0 is also 33% lighter than the 2.2, so depending on the battery pack you get the range will be way way better that the 2.0 or 2.2
Edit: there are no articulated Ebusco 2.0’s
@@kevin_van_den_berg yeah, I was wrong, we have 2.2's😎 concerning the battery usage. You can get 0.85Kwh, I agree..but only in the best possible situation. About 17 degrees celcius outside so no ac or heating necessary. No halting for traffic lights or very slowly braking so every Watt goes back in to the battery. A very calm bus,... You cannot count on that value when making vehicle schedules.
Edit: also, if you have an accident with a 3.0, the whole frame breaks very easy so you lose the bus for a very long time...
We also find the numbers too good to be true
@@Maximevete The 0.85 kWh/km was during normal operation in a city, although I should have clarified it was on a 12 meter model. But city operation does have a lot of constant acceleration and braking, and mind that the 0.85 kWh/km was the average from his whole shift day, so it could indeed be above or below that.
I have not yet heard concerns about crashes, actually I mostly know benefits, they have already had a few small incidents here, on one hand I do know that carbon fiber is more expensive than say plastic or aluminum, so that could be a little thing to worry about. But what many people don’t know is that the carbon body is actually stronger than aluminum/steel (that’s why they use it in F1 cars and other sports cars 😜), so the frame probably won’t break more easily than a conventional frame. On another positive note though, if a part of the bus structure, or let’s say the side wall breaks, Ebusco (or in house mechanics) can actually just “cut” out part of the vehicle and replace a whole side wall or whatever part of the vehicle, and glue/bond it together, restoring the original integrity. But I think what you are maybe referring to is that carbon breaks instead of aluminium, which of course bends, so that is a concern, but we will find out if, or better said when one of these buses gets a big accident… 😅
Concerning the range I know that most (electric) car manufacturers usually always test vehicles in perfect conditions.
I don’t know how much this happens with buses, but it would probably be the best option to test instead of speculate, of course with cars a few curious journalists will be guaranteed to drive electric cars all the way from 100% to 0% with real world conditions 😂
Enough is enough! Now I hope Nobina cancels the contract with Ebusco. Dealing with such unprofessional actors has caused significant problems for both the passengers in Oslo and the politicians’ ambitions to make Oslo the world’s first city with only electric buses!
Ebusco is Goated bro
Let’s see what happens.
Aapko pov video banai chahie
Would have been fun!
Scaring bus-iness
Hehehe
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