As an architect, I can tell you that a lot of our plans (buildings and urban developments) don't get past the design/idea phase. Also, the more radical the idea, the less of a chance it will be to see the light of day. This came out in December of '23... I will give it until the end of the year before more sane heads prevail. I do not see this happening at this grand level.
I am an Architect also and this seems like a publicity stunt for the overall development and it is working, we are talking about it. It seems like another phallic exercise that should go nowhere, it is an outdated model from the early 2000's. What financial institution will gamble on this? Also the Developer doesn't even have a website, I work in Orange County and we have a few of these sketchy developers from Newport Beach that play with smoke and mirrors.
The bottom towers are already going to be built staring this summer. The building will definitely be built if it’s approved because the demand is definitely there
I just want to see any city outside of NYC and Chicago finally get a super tall. The cities in the south are the main ones growing the most like Atlanta, Houston, Austin, Charlotte, Tampa, Dallas, OKC and Raleigh.
Chicago barely even gets super talle anymore there’s only ONE being built right now and compared to New York they are booming. New York has a scary amount of empty buildings and apartments because they are too expensive. Going up even more north you find your self in Toronto which is building 43 tall building right now and they have 57 building ideas. Maybe you should look which cities are actually doing good and bad.
Miami, the city is building like crazy for years now, go see how many skyscrapers were built in the past 2 years and how many are under construction or already approved.
This is a good idea okc is expanding to far out like 30 plus miles and traffic gets worse every year . We need high density housing and this is a huge step in the right direction.
Yeah Avoid all woke's anti-occidental lefties looser's ideologies movement Gr8 project Lot of cities in USA needs more skyscrapper project loke this MAGA in action whit this project right there in Oklahoma City Amen !!!!!!
My relatives live in OKC and I have been there many, many times. The three smaller buildings will almost certainly be built. But it's iffy if the 1900 foot tower gets to 1900 feet. A shorter, maybe half the height, tower could be built. And that would still be impressive. I see the current buzz as just annoying publicity.
How much class AAA office sq ft will this add? What is the current demand for this type of space in OKC? What is the current class AAA occupancy for OKC? These are the most important facts you left out if thinking critically about this project.
none. The use will be mixed residential, hotel, and retail. The residential will be luxury condo, market and workforce rental, luxury rental, boutique luxury hotel (Dream by Hyatt), and Key luxury hotel (Hyatt). The hotel rooms are surely needed, downtown has about 5000 rooms to date and probably less than 750 of that total would be luxury. The retail would likely consist of destination shoppes OKC doesn't currently have; the city has made HUGE strides in the past 15 years but still lacks many of the national chains most tier 2 cities have - so this would likely fill some of that. There is no planned office space here; although you'd expect a minimum amount for the workforce assistance center and property management, etc.
"How much class AAA office sq ft will this add? What is the current demand for this type of space in OKC?" ------------------------------------------- None of the decision makers care about logical things like that. This is an OKC vanity project.
well, it’s not just a concept, it’s been approved my oklahoma city councils and the building has its full funding for the project. also “concept” and “proposed” are very different.
At the young age of 17, I traveled by Greyhound bus from Boston to LA & was impressed by OK City & Tulsa, that I wrote a letter to the Governor. I haven't been back since - I still love New England. Not sure if OKC is best choice but someone must. Best of luvk!
All the people in these comments have no idea on what they are talking about. Oklahoma is one of the fastest growing states, and the majority of those residents go to Oklahoma. The whole point of this tower it to being even more residents to Oklahoma City. It will bring more skyscrapers and fill out Oklahoma City. The same thing happened to Dubai, and it will happen to Oklahoma City if the plans go through. Also tornados never hit OKC, and even then skyscrapers are built to withstand tornados. The demand is definitely there, the majority of people moving to OKC are form cali, and New York. People used to living in skyscrapers, so this will definitely draw in the big city residents.
I receive just good vibe's whit this project Oklahoma City desserve this peacefully but gigantic project Thanx God for this really good looking skyscrapper !!!!! 100% approuved
@@SubtleHawk 2000 apparentlents could be built in to revitalized city blocks that would compliment OKC's skyline and revitalize the city. a single high rise monolith is going to be a very unsightly and do very little for street life below.
@@TimLucasdesign This is a good project! Having a building with 2000 apartments and stores, restaurants, and everything there at walking distance is awesome! There's literally nothing wrong with it unless you've been lobotomized or you just don't want housing to ever get built. There's literally nothing wrong with this project.
@@SubtleHawk Look at how Nashville built out their skyline. Nothing over 40 storeys and the skyline feels dense and balanced. img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/62c3761f-abd6-4182-a441-c6478fc771bc/DJI_0036_37_38_39_40.jpg/:/cr=t:0%25,l:0%25,w:100%25,h:100%25/rs=w:1280
The architecture (AO) and the City has to wait for the FAA to get the approval first for the height requirement. And from the latest interview from OETA, that process is already underway. The 3 other towers will begin construction this summer.
I don't blame them for trying. Building from the basketball 🏀 teams hype. It happened in Miami's downtown 20 years ago during the early years of the arena being built. Bold move. Huge gamble. The assumption is that all the risk have been dissected and analyzed...let's see if the city commissioners support it or not...
Boardwalk at Bricktown has been planned for several years as 3 roughly 27 floor residential towers and a hotel tower; but recently received massive adjustments (including the supertall plan and the shorter towers raised to 35 floors) due to the new $1 billion Oklahoma City NBA arena that voters approved as well as a multi-use soccer stadium; both will be in the same downtown vacinity creating a sort of LA-Live district. Developer is taking a chance on OKC due to the momentum the city has been seeing which has translated into it being over 700,000 residents (up from 580K in 2010) and metro over 1.5 million (up from 1.3 in 2010). With OTHER announcements, plans, and developments, OKC is becoming a sort of boom town that's still a bit organic. Legends Tower is the only thing that's not organic but it's nice to see something speculative given a chance there. Go for it.
@@rchilde1 "Developer is taking a chance on OKC due to the momentum the city [has seen with its ten-year population growth.]" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I would call that rationale short-sighted. Cities can decrease in population as well as increase. Besides, that increase is a bit misleading, as the city, decades ago, expanded the city limits outward arbitrarily to include pasture land and ranches. Your developers and city "leaders" sound desperate for recognition. I guess OU football wins and bowl games are not enough anymore.
Everyone is talking crap but if you want to grow has a city you got to take risks. Americans used to be ambitious and build great things now we’ve gotten lazy don’t take risk.
Tornadoes rarely hit Oklahoma City. I will tell You the upper class already sit in brick town and you cannot put affordable housing here. The upper class wouldn't have it. It is a tourist trap.
"If you build it they will come." Is the one real aim of this project. And as a OKC resident, I say go for it. Let the market and inflation alone stand in their way. I hope the city approves it. Who knows if completed, it could be very successful.
"If you build it they will come." Is the one real aim of this project." ----------------------------------------- That's a well-known saying, but not necessarily true. Many cities have beautiful new skyscrapers that are mostly not occupied because there's already too much office space already available; it's called overbuilding.
This sounds to me like a vanity project for OKC. I guess the extreme height of the tower gives people in Oklahoma something to talk about. It's like there's nothing else of any significance going on in Oklahoma, and the people there, especially in OKC, want recognition from outsiders that OKC exists. I guess OU's football victories and bowl games are just not enough anymore.
Saw a fascinating article here on RUclips about this same idea proposed several years ago by none other than king Charles. Instead of "modern glass and glitz" he suggested a return to "tried & true" architecture of the past and Poundbury became a reality. It's success has proven the fact. We long for the semblance of the familiar.
I am in favor for it for the sole reason it will be taller than the freedom tower in NYC. America is too great of a nation to have its tallest building as being the 7th tallest in the world. Besides, it's the spire that makes it looks that tall. Go for it OKC, let's beat the freedom tower in height!
The city renamed part of the North Canadian River near downtown as the Oklahoma River, when it built low water dams to raise the level to a consistent height. Korny? yes. But there are MANY things in Oklahoma City named after it or the state (Including 'Oklahoma City Boulevard' - where Legends Tower will be located) so there is precedence. .... btw - don't knock on OKC too much, OKC Boulevard used to be where the former elevated I-40 Crosstown was located but they moved it further south opening up huge areas for development - a very good move.
A big gamble to put something productive in a city center parking lot that is marginally productive. A building that big is going to require a LOT of revenue to maintain. It looks like they are installing a new neighborhood and hoping to attract some folks fleeing from the big city with a familiar feeling neighborhood. With that kind of height, you could probably dedicate a floor or two to datacenter and cell tower electronics too and pull down a lot of those steel girders with guide lines down too. If the building was able to take 300 mph tornado winds, that would make sure the infrastructure would hold up better, communications would survive better.
OKC will have a billion dollar NBA arena around the same time as this will be finished and a 75 million dollar soccer stadium in the same area. OKC is one of the fastest growing large cities in the US as in one of the 14 cities to gain over 100k people in the last census.
@@zebrajenks plus its still much cheaper than alot of major cities , and people want homes. hopefully the state does something about thier education though.
As someone who lives in Dallas, this would be nice for OKC. I don't know that the 1,900 ft building will be built that tall though, maybe around 1,000 ft or so? Who knows.
Not to insult OKC, but this isn't New York City or Chicago, one of these massive downtown markets that can absord several million square feet of office and retail space per year. Plus it is ridiculously out of scale with rest of Downtown OKC. Even if its built, it will likely be a colossal white elephant that will either sit half empty for years, if not decades or else it will cannibalize the rest of the downtown office market. Build it and they will come worked in the movie Field of Dreams. Im not sure how well it will work near the intersection of I 35, 40 and 44. Good luck, boys.
OKC is one of 14 cities in the US that gained over 100k people in the last census, this would not be empty. I live here and OKC is growing insanely fast.
@@zebrajenks hmmmm.. Whats the annual rate of office space absorption, retail development and housing construction in the downtown area? And whats the average rental price on downtown area properties? As I said, a project this size isnt a guarantee even in the biggest markets. Likewise, if it exceeds demands for office, retail or residential property in the downtown, roughly a mile radius of either Brick town, the Chesapeake Arena or the intersection of I 35 and 40, it will gain tenants at the expense of other lower grade properties. Having been through OKC on multiple occasions, this is not a downtown that serves as a destination. You work there, see a concert or ball game, or already live there. If you're down in Moore or Norman, up in Edmonds, or out towards either El Reno or Shawnee the odds are you dont go into OKC very often. And why several other towers in the downtown or nearby suburban areas are likely to go dark if this gets built. As for the new arena, hell the Ford Center was brand new 20 years ago and of course in order to keep Omaha, Austin, Little Rock or Tulsa from wooing the fair maiden (the Thunder) the politicians are falling all over themselves to give the current owners a nearly $1B freebie. As best described in the web site Field of Schemes.
You mean the Tower of Babel? What's really behind this driving force to have the tallest building of the land? Or, the biggest tool, or the biggest weapon, or, the biggest anything...
I was excited about the possibility until I saw this: "although the project’s prior iteration that was proposed for approval of a TIF district promised some residential floors would be dedicated to transitional housing for those trying to escape homelessness. " A California builder (home to one third of the country's homeless) wants to bring some of their brilliant ideas here. You invite homeless people, they will come. Keep them on the left coast please.
“Unparalleled views “? Of what? OKC? Why bother, it’s not an exciting skyline by any stretch. Unless they rig a huge mirror somewhere to reflect the Legends Tower back there’s really no need for an observation deck. Plus, no one wants to vacation in Oklahoma.
This tower could start megatalls in America once build and funded and approved.. Then all bets are off and the zoning regulations will alter to make these structures a common reality in America´s building projects.
I don’t see the economics in Oklahoma City to make this happen. I’m not sure a 1000’ tower could be economically viable there. Although it would be cool.
Oklahoma City would not exactly be on my list of places to visit. Chicago, NYC, SF (well not so much SF anymore) are most likely. People will/would really have to go out of their way for this one.
I've heard people say that okc couldn't fill a building of such magnitude. I've heard even NYC can't fill a building this large. The difference between OKC filling this building compared to NYC is OKC doesn't have multiple other buildings to compete with to fill it like NYC. I think OKC has just as good or even a better chance of filling it than NYC. Plus i live in OKC and I'm not speaking prejudice in any way for our city but there's something going on here you can just feel it. Big things are planned for OKC. It's all hush, hush right now and hasn't been put out to the public yet, but wait and see something even bigger than this building is coming to this midsized great Plaines city.
Exactly, when you're the only brand new Luxury supertall in the market - you fill a niche and create your own new market. It will likely take a while but Legends Tower will get filled, if built.
I'm not going to make a special trip to OKC to see it. I've been there for business. I don't feel compelled to return. My concern about the new complex there is they are not building it downtown. Wouldn't this take business away from the existing downtown area. Also, what is there to see from the observation deck. There are not any other important landmarks in OKC, no mountains no coastline, just similar looking suburban sprawl and then flat farmland. Affordable housing is the reason people move to OKC, not it's urban vibe. Invest in better schools and recreational amenities, people will move there for the quality of life.
Tornado Alley is the first thing I think of when I hear Oklahoma City. During my 70 year lifetime the OKC area has had several mega-tornadoes move through the area, leveling huge swathes of the city and surrounding areas.
Sounds like someone ignorant who isn’t from OKC would say. Tornadoes have never hit OKC they have only hit the suburbs like twice far away from the inner city. Majority of the tornadoes hit the country sides.
i dont' think so. it will just be another market that OKC doesn't really have. It does already have highrise real estate but most of the recent luxury versions have been conversion. This project will be the first residential highrise and luxury highrise development built downtown in more than 30 years. It will fill a niche, not sure if the total number of units planned will be filled though. .. (but eventually, probably yes).
This project makes no sense in a city that isn't dense. If you look on Google Photos at all the surface parking and brownfield sites in OKC, they would be far better off building multiple 20-30 storey buildings which would revitalize the city and create a more balanced and appealing skyline.
Except for the lengths of a tower in the world, the same Dubai, the Arabs, and the same China, the lengths of a hotel tower in the world, or the lengths of a residential tower in the world, 200 floors
Anyone that has 20 stories or higher in okc knows what that claimed view has dominating the southern view, the city landfill the tallest thing south of downtown.
Sure let's build this in a city in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the country with a view of what? Flat land? Makes no sense at all. The residents of OC do really like living there but it is not a coastal city and the river there looks like a creek to me.I guess it is all in what someone is used to.
maybe there's people who don't want to live on a coast but want to live in a luxury highrise/supertall. OKC isn't the only city in the flatlands, and OKC already has some towers including one almost 1000 feet.
yes you may be right- anything is possible but OKC is on the small side and not really what I would consider a city that could support a large project of the proposed magnitude. OKC is a very nice city and a great place to raise a family but it's not Las Vegas as far as entertainment... goes.@@rchilde1
Walkable neighborhoods and local businesses are what we need, not a hermetically sealed Dubai-like monstrosity. It is baffling that anyone things such an eyesore sooves any problem.
It is infill developement to the max. Currently, the lot is a 'mini' parking crater with a heritage building cladded with aluminum for U-haul Hq. This will create walkability on a different scale that likely will help add density to the rest of lower bricktown and points south (currently greenfield).
There's no shortage of space in this region of the country, so we absolutely can build out and sprawl, as we have. But it doesn't come without its drawbacks. Many people complain about it, as it's very hard to make a sprawled city easily walkable and/or put in expansive public transit I personally don't mind it, I'm more of a car person anyway and don't mind driving everywhere, but some people do mind. Keeping things close together and expanding upward is more attractive to people for that reason, I'd assume Oh, and as for the wind, we actually have a lot of smart designs in place to combat stuff like that already. Too complicated for me to explain here, but it's interesting reading up on the ways people have wind-proofed, earthquake-proofed, or whatever-proofed skyscrapers. Though you won't catch me on the top floor of any skyscraper in strong winds, too freaky for me, no matter how safe it is
Once again, even if as a good american dude, only United States exists for you, you should definitely translate your gallons, yards, feet or whatever in metric system (a minima writing both) so that the other 95% of world population can understand it and by the way, maybe support your channel...
built in 'murrica, being decided in 'murrica, where no translation is needed. Educate yourself and know how to do the math when you want to be a busybody. I do the eurocentric metricmath translation all the time watching the Dubai exploits.
Maybe if you practiced some mental math you work hear your precious metric numbers as he is talking, I mean even just doing part of the conversion is easy to get a rough (inaccurate) idea 1907 ÷ 3 = 632 meters (after you've mastered this simple part you'll learn to take about 10% off the answer to get closer) to get a little more accurate but harder brain math 1907 ÷ 3.3 = 577 meter If you want dead on balls accurate you can always use a Google converter.
Why are we building mega tall skyscrapers in cities where populations are decreasing and office space vacancies are increasing? It doesn't seem to make much sense.
What are you talking about decreasing population we just had a hundred thousand people last year moved to our city and there is plenty of office space downtown
Oklahoma City is DEFINITELY NOT decreasing in population, it's one of the fastest growing major cities in the nation. And this isn't an office development.
OKLAHOMA? Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains? How ludicrous. Oklahoma City isn’t Austin, TX. This is the stupidest idea I’ve heard in a long time.
This is the dumbest city for that tower. I've been to OKC, and nothing special about it except the bombing memorial. Buildings like this belong in Seattle, Frisco, LA, NYC, and maybe Boston
@GabrielGarcia-dc6rl dude I was being funny. I'm saying if this tower was ever built I rather have built in OKC than Detroit. If you know anything about Detroit you would agree with me
it will never be build. there is no need for this kind of project in Oklahoma City. If will be suitable for NYC, Chicago, maybe Miami or LA but not OKC
@@Anubisdream1 stop watching Fox News. We are totally fine in major US cities. Of course, some people are leaving these cities just because here is so many people already (much much more than in cities like OKC). When it's so crowded some people start to think if it would be okay to move out. But remember, if they could afford it they most likely would stay, that's reality. Those who are leaving they somehow got here at some point. They did not go to OKC to start/or build their careers, they went to these exact crowded cities that Fox News hate so much.
A really screwball idea with little or no practical reason for being. Oklahoma City needs to get its priorities straignt. Medium to low rise buildings in the CBD are whats deeded, not grandious schemes to satisfy someones real estate ego.
Oklahoma city doesn't have the supporting skyline to house such a concept. Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia or New York's skylines do.
There’s so many haters that don’t understand that OKC is growing fast and is trying to redefine itself as major city in the sunbelt. Legends will be built. Will it be a super tall? Probably not, but this is without a doubt going to promote mid rise density in the downtown/midtown core. But I guess small cities should stay small, mid size cities should stay mid size, and major cities should continue to develop... How boring.
As an architect, I can tell you that a lot of our plans (buildings and urban developments) don't get past the design/idea phase. Also, the more radical the idea, the less of a chance it will be to see the light of day. This came out in December of '23... I will give it until the end of the year before more sane heads prevail. I do not see this happening at this grand level.
I am an Architect also and this seems like a publicity stunt for the overall development and it is working, we are talking about it. It seems like another phallic exercise that should go nowhere, it is an outdated model from the early 2000's. What financial institution will gamble on this? Also the Developer doesn't even have a website, I work in Orange County and we have a few of these sketchy developers from Newport Beach that play with smoke and mirrors.
Think they call it vapor-tecture - hallucinatory architecture
Thank you!! I've been saying this. I live here. Many people think it'll be built. But this is all hype and publicity for the actual project.
The bottom towers are already going to be built staring this summer. The building will definitely be built if it’s approved because the demand is definitely there
@@jessmcafee2557all hype is what’s going to get it to be built 💀 it’s based off demand
It’s wonderful go Oklahoma City ❤❤❤
I just want to see any city outside of NYC and Chicago finally get a super tall. The cities in the south are the main ones growing the most like Atlanta, Houston, Austin, Charlotte, Tampa, Dallas, OKC and Raleigh.
Chicago barely even gets super talle anymore there’s only ONE being built right now and compared to New York they are booming. New York has a scary amount of empty buildings and apartments because they are too expensive. Going up even more north you find your self in Toronto which is building 43 tall building right now and they have 57 building ideas. Maybe you should look which cities are actually doing good and bad.
I believe they are building one in Miami as we speak.
Got a problem with NYC or Chicago?
Miami, the city is building like crazy for years now, go see how many skyscrapers were built in the past 2 years and how many are under construction or already approved.
You left out Fort Worth
This is a good idea okc is expanding to far out like 30 plus miles and traffic gets worse every year . We need high density housing and this is a huge step in the right direction.
Yeah
Avoid all woke's anti-occidental lefties looser's ideologies movement
Gr8 project
Lot of cities in USA needs more skyscrapper project loke this
MAGA in action whit this project right there in Oklahoma City
Amen !!!!!!
Dang people are meat riding on the hate train for okc when almost none of you live or have ever been to okc
Story of my life LOL
My relatives live in OKC and I have been there many, many times. The three smaller buildings will almost certainly be built. But it's iffy if the 1900 foot tower gets to 1900 feet. A shorter, maybe half the height, tower could be built. And that would still be impressive. I see the current buzz as just annoying publicity.
How much class AAA office sq ft will this add? What is the current demand for this type of space in OKC? What is the current class AAA occupancy for OKC? These are the most important facts you left out if thinking critically about this project.
none. The use will be mixed residential, hotel, and retail. The residential will be luxury condo, market and workforce rental, luxury rental, boutique luxury hotel (Dream by Hyatt), and Key luxury hotel (Hyatt). The hotel rooms are surely needed, downtown has about 5000 rooms to date and probably less than 750 of that total would be luxury. The retail would likely consist of destination shoppes OKC doesn't currently have; the city has made HUGE strides in the past 15 years but still lacks many of the national chains most tier 2 cities have - so this would likely fill some of that. There is no planned office space here; although you'd expect a minimum amount for the workforce assistance center and property management, etc.
"How much class AAA office sq ft will this add? What is the current demand for this type of space in OKC?"
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None of the decision makers care about logical things like that. This is an OKC vanity project.
The super tall will not happen. Just a concept. The other 3 towers are probably a go.
I agree with the other 3 towers able to under-go construction.
well, it’s not just a concept, it’s been approved my oklahoma city councils and the building has its full funding for the project. also “concept” and “proposed” are very different.
The developer just announced a week ago, the 1.5 billion project is fully funded now. They need faa approval to build that high.
so, it is, you were wrong
Welp....
At the young age of 17, I traveled by Greyhound bus from Boston to LA & was impressed by OK City & Tulsa, that I wrote a letter to the Governor. I haven't been back since - I still love New England. Not sure if OKC is best choice but someone must. Best of luvk!
All the people in these comments have no idea on what they are talking about. Oklahoma is one of the fastest growing states, and the majority of those residents go to Oklahoma. The whole point of this tower it to being even more residents to Oklahoma City. It will bring more skyscrapers and fill out Oklahoma City. The same thing happened to Dubai, and it will happen to Oklahoma City if the plans go through. Also tornados never hit OKC, and even then skyscrapers are built to withstand tornados. The demand is definitely there, the majority of people moving to OKC are form cali, and New York. People used to living in skyscrapers, so this will definitely draw in the big city residents.
Lmao
its still a shitty state and city and this building will only be for the rich if it gets built
Exactly !!!!
Crappy Jealeousy & woke's anti-occidental ideologies are everywhere in 2024
Thanx God for this greatest skyscrapper project
Double LMAO - Honey, OKLAHOMA City is no Dubai. I’m sure it’s a nice place but it’s no international hub or even on a national level. It won’t happen.
still doesn't mean its a good place lol its still a trashy sad looking city with no culture
I receive just good vibe's whit this project
Oklahoma City desserve this peacefully but gigantic project
Thanx God for this really good looking skyscrapper !!!!!
100% approuved
It's too skinny. Looks like an exaggeration of a very long pencil.
Wow, in the Spring you'll see the tornadoes before radar does! And on Summer days, you'll have an unparalled view of heat shimmer.
People can't afford anything and that will NOT be solved by building a funky tower.
This has like 2000 apartments. This is exactly what we need.
@@SubtleHawk 2000 apparentlents could be built in to revitalized city blocks that would compliment OKC's skyline and revitalize the city. a single high rise monolith is going to be a very unsightly and do very little for street life below.
@@TimLucasdesign This is a good project! Having a building with 2000 apartments and stores, restaurants, and everything there at walking distance is awesome! There's literally nothing wrong with it unless you've been lobotomized or you just don't want housing to ever get built. There's literally nothing wrong with this project.
@@SubtleHawk Look at how Nashville built out their skyline. Nothing over 40 storeys and the skyline feels dense and balanced.
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@@TimLucasdesignI think it’s a total of 4 buildings.
The architecture (AO) and the City has to wait for the FAA to get the approval first for the height requirement. And from the latest interview from OETA, that process is already underway. The 3 other towers will begin construction this summer.
They barely have a NBA team..population is barely a mil.. Nashville is 2miland won't build anything over five hundred feet.. please
I don't blame them for trying. Building from the basketball 🏀 teams hype. It happened in Miami's downtown 20 years ago during the early years of the arena being built. Bold move. Huge gamble. The assumption is that all the risk have been dissected and analyzed...let's see if the city commissioners support it or not...
Boardwalk at Bricktown has been planned for several years as 3 roughly 27 floor residential towers and a hotel tower; but recently received massive adjustments (including the supertall plan and the shorter towers raised to 35 floors) due to the new $1 billion Oklahoma City NBA arena that voters approved as well as a multi-use soccer stadium; both will be in the same downtown vacinity creating a sort of LA-Live district.
Developer is taking a chance on OKC due to the momentum the city has been seeing which has translated into it being over 700,000 residents (up from 580K in 2010) and metro over 1.5 million (up from 1.3 in 2010). With OTHER announcements, plans, and developments, OKC is becoming a sort of boom town that's still a bit organic. Legends Tower is the only thing that's not organic but it's nice to see something speculative given a chance there. Go for it.
@@rchilde1 "Developer is taking a chance on OKC due to the momentum the city [has seen with its ten-year population growth.]"
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I would call that rationale short-sighted. Cities can decrease in population as well as increase. Besides, that increase is a bit misleading, as the city, decades ago, expanded the city limits outward arbitrarily to include pasture land and ranches. Your developers and city "leaders" sound desperate for recognition. I guess OU football wins and bowl games are not enough anymore.
Did you cite Austin as a midwestern city with Cleveland? 😂
Everyone is talking crap but if you want to grow has a city you got to take risks. Americans used to be ambitious and build great things now we’ve gotten lazy don’t take risk.
Why is "growing" a worthwhile objective? More traffic, more congestion, higher prices, and on and on and on.
as a person who lives less than 300 miles from okc, this is an absolute win!
Tornadoes rarely hit Oklahoma City. I will tell You the upper class already sit in brick town and you cannot put affordable housing here. The upper class wouldn't have it. It is a tourist trap.
Is OKC Midwestern 🤔
"If you build it they will come." Is the one real aim of this project. And as a OKC resident, I say go for it. Let the market and inflation alone stand in their way. I hope the city approves it. Who knows if completed, it could be very successful.
"If you build it they will come." Is the one real aim of this project."
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That's a well-known saying, but not necessarily true. Many cities have beautiful new skyscrapers that are mostly not occupied because there's already too much office space already available; it's called overbuilding.
i really want the legends tower to happen
Since this video, the city has approved the height, now the FAA has to do the same.
Small smart City prototypes including less risk of Ressource waste. Mayb people decide where 2 live how long n what 2 professionalice 4 what purpose
Damn America, and still can't build highspeed bullet trains....
This sounds to me like a vanity project for OKC. I guess the extreme height of the tower gives people in Oklahoma something to talk about. It's like there's nothing else of any significance going on in Oklahoma, and the people there, especially in OKC, want recognition from outsiders that OKC exists. I guess OU's football victories and bowl games are just not enough anymore.
They tried to do this in Denver and it was rejected by the city! Maybe they need to vote on it too.
Already been approved. They just need approval to exceed the height limit
Nah... this looks exactly like what happened in Dubai and that was a huge mistake.
Saw a fascinating article here on RUclips about this same idea proposed several years ago by none other than king Charles. Instead of "modern glass and glitz" he suggested a return to "tried & true" architecture of the past and Poundbury became a reality. It's success has proven the fact. We long for the semblance of the familiar.
I’d love to see this built but OKC needs a ton of infill development. There is so much empty land or land dedicated to parking that should be built on
this is a huge step. but yes, infill is happening downtown just this is a huge one.
As crazy as it is, they are literally about to start moving the dirt already. Pernits and financing has been secured.
They're talking about the shorter buildings first. Didn't you watch the video?
I am in favor for it for the sole reason it will be taller than the freedom tower in NYC. America is too great of a nation to have its tallest building as being the 7th tallest in the world. Besides, it's the spire that makes it looks that tall. Go for it OKC, let's beat the freedom tower in height!
Not the Oklahoma River???
WOW!!!
The city renamed part of the North Canadian River near downtown as the Oklahoma River, when it built low water dams to raise the level to a consistent height. Korny? yes. But there are MANY things in Oklahoma City named after it or the state (Including 'Oklahoma City Boulevard' - where Legends Tower will be located) so there is precedence. ....
btw - don't knock on OKC too much, OKC Boulevard used to be where the former elevated I-40 Crosstown was located but they moved it further south opening up huge areas for development - a very good move.
A big gamble to put something productive in a city center parking lot that is marginally productive. A building that big is going to require a LOT of revenue to maintain. It looks like they are installing a new neighborhood and hoping to attract some folks fleeing from the big city with a familiar feeling neighborhood. With that kind of height, you could probably dedicate a floor or two to datacenter and cell tower electronics too and pull down a lot of those steel girders with guide lines down too. If the building was able to take 300 mph tornado winds, that would make sure the infrastructure would hold up better, communications would survive better.
OKC will have a billion dollar NBA arena around the same time as this will be finished and a 75 million dollar soccer stadium in the same area. OKC is one of the fastest growing large cities in the US as in one of the 14 cities to gain over 100k people in the last census.
@@zebrajenks plus its still much cheaper than alot of major cities , and people want homes. hopefully the state does something about thier education though.
As someone who lives in Dallas, this would be nice for OKC. I don't know that the 1,900 ft building will be built that tall though, maybe around 1,000 ft or so? Who knows.
You should do one on Fort Worth’s Panther Island Project
Tornado alley has moved east. Think about it when you see the news of tornados.
More vacant office space, more mortgage defaults. Don't build it.
It's not office space.
Oklahoma City doesn't have anything to put in a building that tall. And the view - just flat prairie...
how about, 'people'. ... maybe, people that want to live in a luxury residential highrise. ... There - fixed your thought.
not enough people : (
I could see this building complex in New York or Chicago certainly not Oklahoma City
Not to insult OKC, but this isn't New York City or Chicago, one of these massive downtown markets that can absord several million square feet of office and retail space per year. Plus it is ridiculously out of scale with rest of Downtown OKC. Even if its built, it will likely be a colossal white elephant that will either sit half empty for years, if not decades or else it will cannibalize the rest of the downtown office market. Build it and they will come worked in the movie Field of Dreams. Im not sure how well it will work near the intersection of I 35, 40 and 44. Good luck, boys.
OKC is one of 14 cities in the US that gained over 100k people in the last census, this would not be empty. I live here and OKC is growing insanely fast.
totally agree with you in principle but this wont be office, it will be mixed use residential and 'some' destination retail.
@@zebrajenks hmmmm..
Whats the annual rate of office space absorption, retail development and housing construction in the downtown area? And whats the average rental price on downtown area properties? As I said, a project this size isnt a guarantee even in the biggest markets. Likewise, if it exceeds demands for office, retail or residential property in the downtown, roughly a mile radius of either Brick town, the Chesapeake Arena or the intersection of I 35 and 40, it will gain tenants at the expense of other lower grade properties. Having been through OKC on multiple occasions, this is not a downtown that serves as a destination. You work there, see a concert or ball game, or already live there. If you're down in Moore or Norman, up in Edmonds, or out towards either El Reno or Shawnee the odds are you dont go into OKC very often. And why several other towers in the downtown or nearby suburban areas are likely to go dark if this gets built.
As for the new arena, hell the Ford Center was brand new 20 years ago and of course in order to keep Omaha, Austin, Little Rock or Tulsa from wooing the fair maiden (the Thunder) the politicians are falling all over themselves to give the current owners a nearly $1B freebie. As best described in the web site Field of Schemes.
>Midwestern
>Austin
No
This Canadian narrator just called Austin a Midwestern city hahaha
Why OK City? Why?
They should’ve chose Tulsa! We need more skyscrapers. It’ll be 1907 feet, a homage to the year Oklahoma became a state which I thought was cool.
You mean the Tower of Babel? What's really behind this driving force to have the tallest building of the land? Or, the biggest tool, or the biggest weapon, or, the biggest anything...
I was excited about the possibility until I saw this: "although the project’s prior iteration that was proposed for approval of a TIF district promised some residential floors would be dedicated to transitional housing for those trying to escape homelessness. "
A California builder (home to one third of the country's homeless) wants to bring some of their brilliant ideas here.
You invite homeless people, they will come. Keep them on the left coast please.
“Unparalleled views “? Of what? OKC? Why bother, it’s not an exciting skyline by any stretch. Unless they rig a huge mirror somewhere to reflect the Legends Tower back there’s really no need for an observation deck. Plus, no one wants to vacation in Oklahoma.
you mean "YOU" dont want to vacation in Oklahoma. .. Plenty of others do vacation in OKC.
Allot hate towards Oklahoma
This tower could start megatalls in America once build and funded and approved..
Then all bets are off and the zoning regulations will alter to make these structures a common reality in America´s building projects.
I don’t see the economics in Oklahoma City to make this happen. I’m not sure a 1000’ tower could be economically viable there. Although it would be cool.
Oklahoma City would not exactly be on my list of places to visit. Chicago, NYC, SF (well not so much SF anymore) are most likely. People will/would really have to go out of their way for this one.
I've heard people say that okc couldn't fill a building of such magnitude. I've heard even NYC can't fill a building this large. The difference between OKC filling this building compared to NYC is OKC doesn't have multiple other buildings to compete with to fill it like NYC. I think OKC has just as good or even a better chance of filling it than NYC. Plus i live in OKC and I'm not speaking prejudice in any way for our city but there's something going on here you can just feel it. Big things are planned for OKC. It's all hush, hush right now and hasn't been put out to the public yet, but wait and see something even bigger than this building is coming to this midsized great Plaines city.
Exactly, when you're the only brand new Luxury supertall in the market - you fill a niche and create your own new market. It will likely take a while but Legends Tower will get filled, if built.
Build it in Chicago or Milwaukee, beautiful views on Lake Michigan.
Wouldn't want something this tall in Milwaukee, but I do feel that the city deserves a tower in the 1,000ft range. Our current max is approx 600ft..
I'm not going to make a special trip to OKC to see it. I've been there for business. I don't feel compelled to return. My concern about the new complex there is they are not building it downtown. Wouldn't this take business away from the existing downtown area. Also, what is there to see from the observation deck. There are not any other important landmarks in OKC, no mountains no coastline, just similar looking suburban sprawl and then flat farmland. Affordable housing is the reason people move to OKC, not it's urban vibe. Invest in better schools and recreational amenities, people will move there for the quality of life.
NYC is over due for a 2,000ft skyscraper
Tornado Alley is the first thing I think of when I hear Oklahoma City. During my 70 year lifetime the OKC area has had several mega-tornadoes move through the area, leveling huge swathes of the city and surrounding areas.
Not true. I live here and have so for 59 years. Yes we have tornadoes but it will not take down a building maybe some windows. Don’t be an idiot.
Tornado Alley has moved eastward to Mississippi and Alabama…
Sounds like someone ignorant who isn’t from OKC would say. Tornadoes have never hit OKC they have only hit the suburbs like twice far away from the inner city. Majority of the tornadoes hit the country sides.
Very rare
Okc has never been wiped out by a tornado! Get your facts straight
That’s would be beautiful but we neeed 1 million new housing 😢
Im wondering why they wouldn't build this in Texas
hmm... 1900' in the heart of Tornado Alley.
NOT the best idea...
If that building becomes built, the real estate will soar in okc
i dont' think so. it will just be another market that OKC doesn't really have. It does already have highrise real estate but most of the recent luxury versions have been conversion. This project will be the first residential highrise and luxury highrise development built downtown in more than 30 years. It will fill a niche, not sure if the total number of units planned will be filled though. .. (but eventually, probably yes).
Where is the demand to fill 1,700 apartments, and to accommodate the commercial, retail and tourism-based activities that are proposed?
If that tower is built it's gonna take a whole lot of lightning ⚡ strikes.
well, thats why grounded lightning rods exist
The Empire State building in New York City has been hit thousands of times by lightning, no damage whatsoever, lightning rod on top of building.
This project makes no sense in a city that isn't dense. If you look on Google Photos at all the surface parking and brownfield sites in OKC, they would be far better off building multiple 20-30 storey buildings which would revitalize the city and create a more balanced and appealing skyline.
There has never been a tornado has ever hit downtown.
Except for the lengths of a tower in the world, the same Dubai, the Arabs, and the same China, the lengths of a hotel tower in the world, or the lengths of a residential tower in the world, 200 floors
The architectural design of "Legends Tower" is absolutely hideous. I hope they redesign it before they actually build it (if ever).
Anyone that has 20 stories or higher in okc knows what that claimed view has dominating the southern view, the city landfill the tallest thing south of downtown.
Sure let's build this in a city in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the country with a view of what? Flat land? Makes no sense at all. The residents of OC do really like living there but it is not a coastal city and the river there looks like a creek to me.I guess it is all in what someone is used to.
maybe there's people who don't want to live on a coast but want to live in a luxury highrise/supertall. OKC isn't the only city in the flatlands, and OKC already has some towers including one almost 1000 feet.
yes you may be right- anything is possible but OKC is on the small side and not really what I would consider a city that could support a large project of the proposed magnitude. OKC is a very nice city and a great place to raise a family but it's not Las Vegas as far as entertainment... goes.@@rchilde1
A supertall tower in Oklahoma? I wouldn't live in it or near it.
Walkable neighborhoods and local businesses are what we need, not a hermetically sealed Dubai-like monstrosity. It is baffling that anyone things such an eyesore sooves any problem.
It would bring inntorist which means more tax money and jobs the hotels the restaurant and all the little businesses around it will prosper
It is infill developement to the max. Currently, the lot is a 'mini' parking crater with a heritage building cladded with aluminum for U-haul Hq. This will create walkability on a different scale that likely will help add density to the rest of lower bricktown and points south (currently greenfield).
From the top, you can see nothing for hundreds of miles.
Neat. 😶
The landfill stands out to the south when you get above the trees and buildings
@@twcstransamwow the landfill we just call that Dallas
@RamoneRitchie lol true, but there is another one just 5ish miles south of downtown okc at I240 and Bryant that's about 10 stories high
@@twcstransam I’m sure it’s nice, I don’t mean to be condescending.❤️
Im wondering if AO just decided to meme us.
Sorry OP this tower wont be in top 5. Its Top 6 because you missed out Merdeka 118 which is the 2nd tallest building in the world.
Evry Soul nos" why dey here! Elhamdullilah
Why tall buildings,we have more than we can fill now
The tallest building is not important the people should be first
Why build up ,when you have all that land,and also the WIND
There's no shortage of space in this region of the country, so we absolutely can build out and sprawl, as we have. But it doesn't come without its drawbacks. Many people complain about it, as it's very hard to make a sprawled city easily walkable and/or put in expansive public transit
I personally don't mind it, I'm more of a car person anyway and don't mind driving everywhere, but some people do mind. Keeping things close together and expanding upward is more attractive to people for that reason, I'd assume
Oh, and as for the wind, we actually have a lot of smart designs in place to combat stuff like that already. Too complicated for me to explain here, but it's interesting reading up on the ways people have wind-proofed, earthquake-proofed, or whatever-proofed skyscrapers. Though you won't catch me on the top floor of any skyscraper in strong winds, too freaky for me, no matter how safe it is
I don't see the battle, only advertising
It won't feel right with the tallest building in okc
Once again, even if as a good american dude, only United States exists for you, you should definitely translate your gallons, yards, feet or whatever in metric system (a minima writing both) so that the other 95% of world population can understand it and by the way, maybe support your channel...
Personally, I prefer my measurements in "Freedom-Eagles per Football Field"
built in 'murrica, being decided in 'murrica, where no translation is needed. Educate yourself and know how to do the math when you want to be a busybody. I do the eurocentric metricmath translation all the time watching the Dubai exploits.
Maybe if you practiced some mental math you work hear your precious metric numbers as he is talking, I mean even just doing part of the conversion is easy to get a rough (inaccurate) idea 1907 ÷ 3 = 632 meters (after you've mastered this simple part you'll learn to take about 10% off the answer to get closer) to get a little more accurate but harder brain math 1907 ÷ 3.3 = 577 meter
If you want dead on balls accurate you can always use a Google converter.
Just google the conversion
Why are we building mega tall skyscrapers in cities where populations are decreasing and office space vacancies are increasing? It doesn't seem to make much sense.
What are you talking about decreasing population we just had a hundred thousand people last year moved to our city and there is plenty of office space downtown
Oklahoma City is DEFINITELY NOT decreasing in population, it's one of the fastest growing major cities in the nation. And this isn't an office development.
Ok? O no.
it wont be that tall and OKC is such a sad depressing looking city
Will Never Happen!
Build best of Soul n shar3 2 earth inshallah
Pass….cool idea 💡 but not gunna happen
OKLAHOMA?
Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains?
How ludicrous. Oklahoma City isn’t Austin, TX. This is the stupidest idea I’ve heard in a long time.
Austin wasn't anything special a couple decades ago either
Austin had to start somewhere, and did. So is OKC.
Guys, please, meters
Google has a converter, Oklahoma is redneckville and have no clue how to use metric.
It’s in America, no one uses meter buddy
Feet!!!!
Sorry but i cant listen to this men’s voice. It almost sounds fake 😅
It's not gonna happen.
View #1000
Physical democracy, low ego mich Company benefit ins
This is the dumbest city for that tower. I've been to OKC, and nothing special about it except the bombing memorial. Buildings like this belong in Seattle, Frisco, LA, NYC, and maybe Boston
Chicago/ Milwaukee??
@@donaldewert2332 I forgot Chicago. That would be a good city since they once had the highest tower (Sears/Willis tower)
@GabrielGarcia-dc6rl hey would you rather have this tower in OKC than let's say ahhhh Detroit lol
@@WashinRob what? Do you speak proper English? Read my original comments
@GabrielGarcia-dc6rl dude I was being funny. I'm saying if this tower was ever built I rather have built in OKC than Detroit. If you know anything about Detroit you would agree with me
it will never be build. there is no need for this kind of project in Oklahoma City. If will be suitable for NYC, Chicago, maybe Miami or LA but not OKC
Says some costal mega city snob that can't take a little hick city getting attention. Mind your own business.
You mean places people are leaving while OKC is in an area of the country that is growing? Ok.
@@Anubisdream1 stop watching Fox News. We are totally fine in major US cities. Of course, some people are leaving these cities just because here is so many people already (much much more than in cities like OKC). When it's so crowded some people start to think if it would be okay to move out. But remember, if they could afford it they most likely would stay, that's reality. Those who are leaving they somehow got here at some point. They did not go to OKC to start/or build their careers, they went to these exact crowded cities that Fox News hate so much.
A really screwball idea with little or no practical reason for being. Oklahoma City needs to get its priorities straignt. Medium to low rise buildings in the CBD are whats deeded, not grandious schemes to satisfy someones real estate ego.
Really bugs ya, huh? Good.
Oklahoma city doesn't have the supporting skyline to house such a concept. Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia or New York's skylines do.
But there is nothing too see or visit in that city 😭 the view would be flat land lol.
might want to try a visit before making such a comment. It's not NYC nor claiming to be, but there's plenty to visit and see.
Im from LA and know NYC, its just nothing in comparison so a visit would be very unlikely.
Just like chicago
There’s so many haters that don’t understand that OKC is growing fast and is trying to redefine itself as major city in the sunbelt. Legends will be built. Will it be a super tall? Probably not, but this is without a doubt going to promote mid rise density in the downtown/midtown core.
But I guess small cities should stay small, mid size cities should stay mid size, and major cities should continue to develop... How boring.
This is a huge white elephant destined for epic failure.