@@robbieclymore7877My favorite thing about him is his ability to somehow pick the perfect phrasing for their songs. It's almost like his voice follows along to the drums a lot of the time. And all at the same time his vocals are just pure brutality.
@@reeeeeee3966 Yeah Tomas does a lot of the lyrics and song format. But it still requires some damn good breath control and talent to make those phrasings sound as good as Jens makes them, especially when you're doing those metal screams.
Apart from the fact that Meshuggah are such a great vehicle for Tomas to shine, his musicality in the context of such technically difficult music is unparalleled. If you have ever heard a Tomas Haake drum track soloed, it is so musical even with no accompaniment. There would be very few drummers in this genre who would achieve this. When you consider that Meshuggah and Tomas pioneered a whole new genre of music requiring unheard of independence and skill and are still so cutting edge all these years later, it show what exceptional musicians there are.
You damn right,they're amaizing! And Tomas there just no words,what great drummer!! So few drummers out there in this immense sea of today metal drumming,that got this kind of sensibility and be able to be technical,catchy,clean,with tremendous groove and power and still somehow sound classic. What a musician!
This is true. Also true is that he plays which such an incredible consistency. Strange to say for a drummer - but he keeps time. His pacing and his dynamics are so damn even, he plays like a drum machine - and that's not a knock, it astounding. Especially given the technically demanding nature of the music and need need to keep everyone in the band together. I've seen Meshuggah live a few times and its blown me away each time.
Chris Adler also does a pretty good job at what you said too. Listen to the isolated drum track of Now you've got something to die for. The way he makes melodies with his cymbals and kick drums definitely makes him stand out.
The best part about this video is that it was clearly shot before the show at soundcheck, as evidenced by Mårten in his PJ's at around 4:25. Awesome to see his band supporting Tomas
@cranglepiano Fredrik should have just remastered the first album since they rushed it the first time supposedly. Instead of adding fake drums that are painfully out of date sounding by today's standards.
Outstanding album. Groovy as f*ck. Listened to the re-recorded version first and i loved it. Now i listened to the original, and fell in love completely, especially "Straws Pulled at Random" and "Stengah" because of the drums sound.
Jayson Lee well, not all of it. but this song is 4/4. and it's amazing that's it's 4/4 because it feels like it could be so many different time signatures
Its more polyrhytms. 4/4 base with odd time over it as a layered beat. This guy doesn't trip on his feet walking he juggles between hand and feet to walk with ease. Tomas is a lot like Neil Peart in the sense he composes drums and lyrics/vocals.
samuel desbiens no, it's syncopated 4/4 patterns mostly. only real polyrhythm I can think of is the lead guitar over the rhythm guitar in their song Spasm
Beat Therapy that's the secret to playing like Tomas. learn to make every movement count, don't expend energy in a useless fashion. he hits hard as hell, lays down visceral pounding beats, but stays sooo loose.
The fact that it is such a techniocally difficult song and he does it with no problem at all shows how good he is. The fact that Meshuggah pioneered this kind of music aswell and all songs are written in 4/4 but still people get confused. It just amazes me how good he is at what he does. Amazing.
Really can’t see how anyone could say there is a better percussionist in the industry right now. Especially among metal drummers, he’s as good as it gets. Something special.
This one about Opeth's Wreath is also a fun comment: Is it true that that this song was inspired by an incident where Mikeal Alkerfieldt split his glass of milk, which made him become outraged that he had nothing to dunk his cookies in, he started writing this song?
This is a really awesome quality video cam. Well lit, great angles, high quality etc. But the most awesome part of this video, to me, is the quality of the audio. It's a really awesome live mix, and exemplifies how relentlessly tight this band is when they're on stage. Fucking. Incredible.
I love this band. They sound like the Thrak line up of King Crimson with cookie monster vocals. The lead guitarist sounds like a cross between Robert Fripp and Allan Holdsworth. Tomas Haake is on another level. Before him I never heard metal groove. It was always so linear and machine like. Now it sways and bobs.
There are multiple ways to interpret music. It's not like it definitively 4/4 or otherwise, because that only matters when you're writing transcribing. I think you're confusing the quarter note pulse throughout the song for it meaning that it's somehow in 4/4, but if you analyze the musical phrases it would make more sense to transcribe (and way easier to read) into bars of 5/4 and 6/4. I'd rather read consistent musical phrases then have to read how some rhythmic motif is shifting between bars of 4/4. Quarter note pulse does not equal 4/4
What must be going on in his brain when he's doing this? So fucked up how he keeps rhythms going so independently of others. That left foot keeping the hi hat going underneath everything else! Holy shit
Ye that always amazes me, among other things. I can't even keep up with what all of his limbs are doing, but that left foot is always on time and doesn't miss a note.
His brain probably isn’t doing much this is all the culmination of thousands of hours and many many MANY years of practice. This is all basically muscle memory at this point
@@skifihls6858pretty sure the fill is KRLRL x 2 KRL x 2 The groups of 5 are jammed into a triplet feel and he kinda hits harder on the last 2 notes of the five groupings
right? a lot of people dont realize theyve been around since like 87 lol. gandalf beards and grey hair lol, still setting the standard so high, most cant even touch it. the great jazz guys get it, but its too much for a certain percentage of metal heads and bands.
4:49 begins one of the most mind blowing segments Meshuggah has to offer. fuck that's nuts to watch him drum. I can't even focus on what he's doing hahaha I just feel bewildered
Haha for a second I thought Tomas was playing live with just his socks on and I was like "my man!" but then I saw Marten stroll past in his pyjama pants and realised they were sound checking
I love this song, it's so much fun to play on drums once you take the time to learn it (then again so are all Meshuggah songs though.) I tend to get a bit lost in the bit at 3:10 during the guitar solo sometimes lol.
Thomas's drumming is just in a world of its own.for me to get my head around these beats is just boggling.i can drum 1 song all the way through from meshuggah and that's combustion.probably one of their easiest songs.
this is how to make a drum cam video. multiple angles on stands and decent audio pulled from somewhere other than the air. well done. everyone w a phone and a ticket to a show seems to think they can make drum cam videos these days smh
Apart from the independent motor function on display. What always marvels me is how he's able to concentration on playing with the light show happening all around him. It's disorientating for me and I'm just sitting in my chair.
Anyone know or can explain Tomas' education or training in music? Like did he go to music school, have someone train how to get that sort of independence in addition to the musicality of making it sound good in the context of the song? Or did he juts make it up as he goes along and become this phenom? (this is coming from a non-musician, so pardon any ignorance!)
Someone on the comment section posted a thing that got me impressed. I've seen this video lots of times and didn't noticed that this is a soundcheck, fak!
my word they are so bad ass. haake's drumming is the key. imagine what Vinnie would do here. straight time 4/4 with the snare on the cliche 2 and 4 beats, up tempo. cool for pantera but meshuggah is next next next level stuff. it's mesmerizing. best band on the planet... still!
I was absolutely mesmerized in every little detail and then Frederik walks by in his pajama pants and the whole thing went from being astounded to hilarious in half a second
This is a fascinating video, I love to watch him play the drums. He's no doubt a bad ass drummer. Sad thing is when I went to see them live on this past tour they had spotlights on the stage aimed at the audience that basically blinds you and you cannot see the band at all. I only went to watch him play so if you're looking forward to seeing these guys live wear sunglasses and don't expect to see of the musicians.
Due to chronic back pain I was planning on buy a throne with a backrest, but was shy... after seeing the god himself using one I suddenly have a smile on my face :)
Juma I searched for this comment just to like it haha. I love how Thordendal keeps getting better and translates his evolving skills seemingly on the fly. I love people's faces when I tell them he plays a different solo every show. That one there was somethin' else.
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Jens Kidman absolutely does not get enough credit. His vocals are fucking fantastic. Even live. So much control.
You are absolutely correct. No one cares about him, but he has to have the, “feel” for his vocal patterns. He never messes up and sounds insane live
@@robbieclymore7877My favorite thing about him is his ability to somehow pick the perfect phrasing for their songs. It's almost like his voice follows along to the drums a lot of the time. And all at the same time his vocals are just pure brutality.
Bruh Meshuggah doesn't get the respect their deserve at all....
@@Sasquatch33i’m pretty sure tomas is the one that does the phrasing, ik he writes the lyrics
@@reeeeeee3966 Yeah Tomas does a lot of the lyrics and song format. But it still requires some damn good breath control and talent to make those phrasings sound as good as Jens makes them, especially when you're doing those metal screams.
The way he has developed independent motor function in all his limbs to have perfect coordination just astounds me.
Ethan Buck it's so weird to see someone's legs doing completely different things.
Jay Postones is a drummer that plays that way
Ethan Buck you should check out Thomas Lang's meinl drum solo, got some killer limb independence
it's easier when you don't think of it as playing 4/4 instead you think of it as playing in 24/24 and memorizing the song.
Lots of guys with independence. Difference is few of them are in metal.
Tomas Haake is one of the most mind blowing drummers I've come across online.
Yup
His feel is UNREAL
Apart from the fact that Meshuggah are such a great vehicle for Tomas to shine, his musicality in the context of such technically difficult music is unparalleled. If you have ever heard a Tomas Haake drum track soloed, it is so musical even with no accompaniment. There would be very few drummers in this genre who would achieve this. When you consider that Meshuggah and Tomas pioneered a whole new genre of music requiring unheard of independence and skill and are still so cutting edge all these years later, it show what exceptional musicians there are.
You damn right,they're amaizing! And Tomas there just no words,what great drummer!! So few drummers out there in this immense sea of today metal drumming,that got this kind of sensibility and be able to be technical,catchy,clean,with tremendous groove and power and still somehow sound classic. What a musician!
Well......... put!
This is true. Also true is that he plays which such an incredible consistency. Strange to say for a drummer - but he keeps time. His pacing and his dynamics are so damn even, he plays like a drum machine - and that's not a knock, it astounding. Especially given the technically demanding nature of the music and need need to keep everyone in the band together. I've seen Meshuggah live a few times and its blown me away each time.
Chris Adler also does a pretty good job at what you said too. Listen to the isolated drum track of Now you've got something to die for. The way he makes melodies with his cymbals and kick drums definitely makes him stand out.
Tomas shines vehicles?
That snare tone is beautiful
butiful
I met the guy who built his snare. He uses 1,000 year old dutch wood.
Yes it is....Jesus Christ I need to sample that.....
@@TamedAnimals He uses a sonor bronze snare?
@@TamedAnimals Care to elaborate? Perhaps a different snare? This one is bronze.
this is probably the first meshuggah song I ever heard, 14.5 years later it still hits just as hard.
mine was "Sickening" and that shit's still groove-tastical! \m/
mine was "I" :D
Same here, Chris. Opening for Tool.
This clip is obviously from the last/current tour, which I took several friends to. Instant converts!
God is it that old? My first was Mouth licking what youve bled
KingOfKings yeah it was released summer of 2002
The best part about this video is that it was clearly shot before the show at soundcheck, as evidenced by Mårten in his PJ's at around 4:25. Awesome to see his band supporting Tomas
Tomas is the Gandalf of drumming!
dafi723 I hope like Gandalf, Haake can return to us sometime after he dies, which hopefully is decades away
Who's the Radagast the Brown of drumming?
Lars Ulrich :)
"Nothing" such a great album.
One of my favs for sure, if not my #1 album from them
@cranglepiano Fredrik should have just remastered the first album since they rushed it the first time supposedly. Instead of adding fake drums that are painfully out of date sounding by today's standards.
Nothing beats nothing
Outstanding album. Groovy as f*ck. Listened to the re-recorded version first and i loved it. Now i listened to the original, and fell in love completely, especially "Straws Pulled at Random" and "Stengah" because of the drums sound.
Agreed I remember hearing that the first time in 2003 just thinking what the fuck is this this is amazing that album changed my entire life simply
The metronome follows Tomas Haake.
Many drummers think it follows them, but it is true for Tomas
haha yes 😁
HOW IS HIS INDIVIDUAL LIMB MOTOR FUNCTION SO PERFECT?
I'm so jealous.
and this is just from a soundcheck.
Why wouldn't it be?
Its the space between the snare backbeat cause so much beautiful uncertain tension in the music
I love the fact that it isn’t all about speed!! He creates a monster groove..even in a odd time, that you can’t help but bob your head to
4/4
@@behindthen0thing the cymbal patterns are in 4/4 but he displaces the rest of beats creating odd time/polyrhythmic grooves
@@Rockinroomsrob yeah
There's so many great things about this vid but the sound of that Sonor snare is amazing.
With those odd time signatures, I often wonder if he trips over his own feet walking down the street.
Titus S. it's all in 4/4...
Jayson Lee well, not all of it. but this song is 4/4. and it's amazing that's it's 4/4 because it feels like it could be so many different time signatures
Its more polyrhytms. 4/4 base with odd time over it as a layered beat. This guy doesn't trip on his feet walking he juggles between hand and feet to walk with ease. Tomas is a lot like Neil Peart in the sense he composes drums and lyrics/vocals.
samuel desbiens no, it's syncopated 4/4 patterns mostly. only real polyrhythm I can think of is the lead guitar over the rhythm guitar in their song Spasm
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My heartbeat goes along with this stuff. Respect.
SuidAkrA1 you must have arrhythmia
AmNeenja Polyarrhythmia
@@2006MC hahaha good one
His quick fills are among the tastiest out there. What a master of musicality!
The practice make the master... absolutely brilliant god Haake!!!
4:10 DAMN!!!!! -Proof that Meshuggah has a BASS player
He looks very comfortable, like driving a car down the motorway. Also DAT 21" China :O
Beat Therapy that's the secret to playing like Tomas. learn to make every movement count, don't expend energy in a useless fashion. he hits hard as hell, lays down visceral pounding beats, but stays sooo loose.
This china is damn amazing I own the same model and it literally rocks!
Mitch ZImmerman Is he better than Mike Mangini?
fredo gumbo ummm well...Yeah...
Beat Therapy In what way is he better?
The more you learn about playing kit, the more impressive Tomas Haake is. His playing is never not humbling!
all killer, no filler. If I could have any drummers skill set, it would be his. So tight, so groovy, so heavy and all in perfect service to the music.
The fact that it is such a techniocally difficult song and he does it with no problem at all shows how good he is. The fact that Meshuggah pioneered this kind of music aswell and all songs are written in 4/4 but still people get confused. It just amazes me how good he is at what he does. Amazing.
Really can’t see how anyone could say there is a better percussionist in the industry right now. Especially among metal drummers, he’s as good as it gets. Something special.
It's very dangerous watching his majesty, because I forgot to breathe....
And this is just a soundcheck 😵💫
Some say he even uses his old sticks as crashes
This never gets old.
@munnomunno the only thing he needs to beat communism is a drumstick
Nothing better then an artist who loves to play his music :) Good job Haake
fun factoid; Haake deliberately performs whilst badly needing to urinate, in order to keep his left foot constant!
Best comment ever in metal history. (If you actually came up with that joke)
“You serious, Clark?”
I tried this... I pissed myself and Tomas is still way better than me. So here I am, sitting in my dirty piss pants crying on my snare.
In fact he has problems with his right foot due to a back injury.
This one about Opeth's Wreath is also a fun comment:
Is it true that that this song was inspired by an incident where Mikeal Alkerfieldt split his glass of milk, which made him become outraged that he had nothing to dunk his cookies in, he started writing this song?
This is a really awesome quality video cam. Well lit, great angles, high quality etc. But the most awesome part of this video, to me, is the quality of the audio. It's a really awesome live mix, and exemplifies how relentlessly tight this band is when they're on stage. Fucking. Incredible.
Tomas Haake is an absolute legend...And so god damn humble..🤘🤘🤘
I really admire this man. Biggest fan...
i really like this recording of stengah
Tomas has so much swing!! I fucking love it
I love this band. They sound like the Thrak line up of King Crimson with cookie monster vocals. The lead guitarist sounds like a cross between Robert Fripp and Allan Holdsworth. Tomas Haake is on another level. Before him I never heard metal groove. It was always so linear and machine like. Now it sways and bobs.
Wauw man. That's a brilliant comparison. Spot on!
Fredrik Thordendal is such a badass lead guitarist as he only improvises solos. He also enjoys the fusion guitarist Wayne Krantz.
This is some of the most UNREAL drumming. It’s all about the feel. That double China part is RIDICULOUS
The pocket is so deep with his grooves.
4:48 is deeeefinitely the hardest groove to play
And it's the best one in the whole song! So satisfying
5 seconds in, already a huge fucking grin on my face
one day hes just going to rip of his human mask to reveal a super computer powered cyborg in a human suit :)
He´s more of a god than a machine
Hahahah!
or both
Sgt.James Doakes actually a computer ripped its face off to reveal Thomas Haake.
suprise madafaka
4/4 never sounded so good.
what? 😳😮
This clearly isn't in 4/4. People need to stop repeating this on every Meshuggah video just because they heard it.
@@molochz have you thought tjat maybe they play 4 bars in 7/4 at times? If you can't count it in 4/4, it is not 4/4.
That simple
@@molochz if you say so
There are multiple ways to interpret music. It's not like it definitively 4/4 or otherwise, because that only matters when you're writing transcribing. I think you're confusing the quarter note pulse throughout the song for it meaning that it's somehow in 4/4, but if you analyze the musical phrases it would make more sense to transcribe (and way easier to read) into bars of 5/4 and 6/4. I'd rather read consistent musical phrases then have to read how some rhythmic motif is shifting between bars of 4/4. Quarter note pulse does not equal 4/4
I don`t belive in superheroes, ...until now... This is sick 🤘🏼
What must be going on in his brain when he's doing this? So fucked up how he keeps rhythms going so independently of others. That left foot keeping the hi hat going underneath everything else! Holy shit
Ye that always amazes me, among other things. I can't even keep up with what all of his limbs are doing, but that left foot is always on time and doesn't miss a note.
His brain probably isn’t doing much this is all the culmination of thousands of hours and many many MANY years of practice. This is all basically muscle memory at this point
Monstrueux tomas haake
Meilleurs batteurs de la planète
That fill on 3:24 is one of my favourite drumfills of all time!
yesss!
Agreed
Everybody likes that one
I’ve been studying it for years and still can’t tell if he’s playing triplets or what exactly. Plays it so smooth!
@@skifihls6858pretty sure the fill is
KRLRL x 2
KRL x 2
The groups of 5 are jammed into a triplet feel and he kinda hits harder on the last 2 notes of the five groupings
And not a single note was played incorrectly that day. I'm so proud to be a Swede whenever I see this shit.
yaay offentlig sektorrrr
Men ÄR DU en rotfrukt eller?
insane!!! Mad respect for Thomas that he's still able to play these songs to perfection regardless of his age-
Tomas is not from this planet, it's that fucken simple. He is another life form in a human suit.
Such a god
I absolutely love the harmonic relation of bass and guitars in this sound. Stanley Soares - dude...
"rips through.." Yes! Very Right!
I actually look forward to seeing this band as old geezers out performing the youngsters, like The Rolling Stones of the future.
right? a lot of people dont realize theyve been around since like 87 lol. gandalf beards and grey hair lol, still setting the standard so high, most cant even touch it. the great jazz guys get it, but its too much for a certain percentage of metal heads and bands.
4:31 Marten Fashionable trousers tho
I’ve never seen anyone play such coordinated madness with such ease
4:49 begins one of the most mind blowing segments Meshuggah has to offer. fuck that's nuts to watch him drum. I can't even focus on what he's doing hahaha I just feel bewildered
This band is the truth. Never lose the 1 my friends.
The most accurate time known to man is the Decay of a Atomic
nucleus , then those scientist met Thomas Haake and had to Re-Write the science books!!!
This guy is incredible. Love his playing.
Haha for a second I thought Tomas was playing live with just his socks on and I was like "my man!" but then I saw Marten stroll past in his pyjama pants and realised they were sound checking
He does play with socks only live, check puto the bleed drum cam
All that precision and groove while he's thinking about fishing and such
I love this song, it's so much fun to play on drums once you take the time to learn it (then again so are all Meshuggah songs though.) I tend to get a bit lost in the bit at 3:10 during the guitar solo sometimes lol.
Ok
QUE RETRO CHIMBA DE TEMA... One of the best songs of MESHUGGAH
This guy plays so fucking relax like if he was playing jazz just looked at him! Sooooo reeeelax
Thomas's drumming is just in a world of its own.for me to get my head around these beats is just boggling.i can drum 1 song all the way through from meshuggah and that's combustion.probably one of their easiest songs.
this made me laugh out loud hahaha it’s literally beyond human understanding
This guy is an amazing drummer!. He's on my top 10 drummers list.
Everyone sayin Bleed is the ultimate Djent song. Stengah deserves the same attention!
this is how to make a drum cam video. multiple angles on stands and decent audio pulled from somewhere other than the air. well done. everyone w a phone and a ticket to a show seems to think they can make drum cam videos these days smh
Incredible to watch
He's like a fucken cyborg octopus
Rafid Ahmed I see what you did there
his playing is incredible and that kit sounds amazing. I think this is the only video I've seen of his where he actually plays the left hi-hat.
This was recorded live? One hell of audio quality!
Apart from the independent motor function on display. What always marvels me is how he's able to concentration on playing with the light show happening all around him. It's disorientating for me and I'm just sitting in my chair.
One of the best drummers ever ❤
Kudos for Hagström's pijamas
he makes me chuckle out loud as my brain shuts down attempting to understand what hes doing
TOP 2 inspirational drummers as in separation of limbs and playing it simple, donati then haake!!!
just a regular day for God in his office
Anyone know or can explain Tomas' education or training in music? Like did he go to music school, have someone train how to get that sort of independence in addition to the musicality of making it sound good in the context of the song? Or did he juts make it up as he goes along and become this phenom? (this is coming from a non-musician, so pardon any ignorance!)
dun dun dun dun BOOOW dun dun dun dun BOOOW, God damn thays got to be one of my most favorite grooves
Someone on the comment section posted a thing that got me impressed. I've seen this video lots of times and didn't noticed that this is a soundcheck, fak!
my word they are so bad ass. haake's drumming is the key. imagine what Vinnie would do here. straight time 4/4 with the snare on the cliche 2 and 4 beats, up tempo. cool for pantera but meshuggah is next next next level stuff. it's mesmerizing. best band on the planet... still!
He's such a stoic...
Beautiful.
I was absolutely mesmerized in every little detail and then Frederik walks by in his pajama pants and the whole thing went from being astounded to hilarious in half a second
think that's actually mårten but yeah totally hilarious regardless, this band is so based
Padjama pants, in djentspeak.
This is a fascinating video, I love to watch him play the drums. He's no doubt a bad ass drummer. Sad thing is when I went to see them live on this past tour they had spotlights on the stage aimed at the audience that basically blinds you and you cannot see the band at all. I only went to watch him play so if you're looking forward to seeing these guys live wear sunglasses and don't expect to see of the musicians.
Lol true
damn, i love his drumming, so cool !!
At 4:50, He's playing an 11 over 4 polyrhythm. Keep that in mind.
That would be 4 over 11.
My brain hurts just from thinking about doing this
Due to chronic back pain I was planning on buy a throne with a backrest, but was shy... after seeing the god himself using one I suddenly have a smile on my face :)
I couldn't replicate his hi-hat foot, not to mind anything his other limbs are doing.
Fredrik solo
Juma I searched for this comment just to like it haha.
I love how Thordendal keeps getting better and translates his evolving skills seemingly on the fly.
I love people's faces when I tell them he plays a different solo every show.
That one there was somethin' else.
I love how the guitarist is in his fuckin jammies
This mf is just refusing to age. Thomas is just insane.
The man is a Drum machine!!
4:37 is the guitarist just wearing pajama bottoms?
Yep, this is most likely a sound check. He probably just got out of bed lol.
The greatest of a generation.
who the fuck disliked this!!??? BEST DRUMMER ON THE PLANET.
I don't understand how he does any of this. It's outta control.