MXR Sugar Drive - Why Buy A Klon When This Sounds So Good!

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  • Опубликовано: 8 мар 2023
  • In today's video we look at the MXR Sugar Drive.
    The MXR Sugar Drive is a Klon clone similar to a Klon KTR where you have a switchable buffer. While testing this great drive pedal we both agrred it sounded better than a Klon.
    Here is what MXR say about the Sugar Drive.
    The MXR Sugar Drive Pedal provides a diverse range of clear and transparent overdrive tones, from sauced up boosting to blown-tube distortion. It's based on a rare overdrive pedal that has acquired a mythical reputation among fanatical tone-seekers thanks to its unique circuit design.
    The key elements of that circuit design are the Drive control and something called a voltage doubler. First, the Drive control on this pedal doesn't just increase the intensity of the overdrive pedal. It starts with your clean signal and then blends it with the overdrive effect as you turn it up, replicating the smooth transition of an amplifier going from clean to dirty. The voltage doubler increases overall headroom, which opens everything up nicely.
    Of course, we had to put the MXR touch on this circuit. If you're all about true bypass, then you're in luck-this pedal uses it by default. The original used buffered bypass, though, and we know there's a lot of players out there who don't want to fix something that isn't broken. They're in luck, too-just flick the Buffer switch on the side of the pedal to enable buffered bypassing.
    With a simple three-knob setup and an MXR mini housing, this is the go-to overdrive to have on your pedalboard. It's versatile and it saves space, and unlike the original pedals it's based on, it won't cost you thousands of dollars.
    The Studio Rats are core band members Paul Drew on guitar/production/mixing, drummer James Ivey and Dan Hawkins on bass. They collaborate with singers and musicians to produce radio-ready songs.
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  • @Jake_Sachs
    @Jake_Sachs Год назад +27

    I love my Sugar Drive. Affordable, sounds great, small footprint, and the physical color itself is really nice too

  • @Dperezer
    @Dperezer Год назад +5

    Been using the Sugar Drive for years. Affordable, small enclosure, great sound. I've tried other Klones but kept coming back to this one.

  • @456or7strings
    @456or7strings Год назад +3

    Looking forward to more ToneX captures - your Independence is my favorite amp across all platforms at the moment (Kemper, QC, AxeFx 3)!

  • @marksanders2784
    @marksanders2784 Год назад +4

    I happened to look away at the first comparison, didn't realise James had switched the pedals! What a great pedal for not a lot of money, think what pedals you could get for the price of a KTR. Great stuff guys, always enjoy your videos!

  • @BradRocker
    @BradRocker Год назад +1

    You guys make um both sound so good !!

  • @LunaWorldcast
    @LunaWorldcast Год назад

    We've been preching this!!

  • @Sir_Gonzo
    @Sir_Gonzo 10 месяцев назад

    I got one of these Sugar Drives recently for my DSL40CR. Its amazing. Took the tubescreamer off the board.

  • @organjoe
    @organjoe Год назад

    Good demo. Wanted more low/mid settings but still appreciated.

  • @33shoobs
    @33shoobs Год назад +2

    I use my mine as a low gain headroom boost at the end of my overdrive chain. I play from a fender. The amp these guys are playing through is very high gain. The sugar drive doesn’t sound anything like this on a low gain amp. But in my rig It’s generally always on. It is absolutely clear and sounds as if it emphasizes the pretty parts of the pedals before it. It may not be a replacement for one of your pedals but it will pair very well with them. It’s a gem. Bright glassy and articulate.

  • @TheSaintBrad
    @TheSaintBrad 7 месяцев назад

    I have the MXR Timmy, which I love. I think I'll get the Sugar Drive this weekend

  • @LightWingStudios
    @LightWingStudios Год назад

    The Super Drive REALLY reminds me of my EH Big Muff pedal from the 80s! :)

  • @ottobakai
    @ottobakai Год назад +1

    Whatever you try out, it always sounds good

  • @carsgunsandguitars
    @carsgunsandguitars Год назад

    Sold.
    I'm buying one today.

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing Год назад +8

    A Klon is a boost pedal and OD in one pedal where the boost drops out at 9 Oclock and the OD kicks in . Yes there is a short cross fade between the two. It is done by stacking 2 knobs on the gain. The secret sauce is in the Boost section where you get a glassy chimey sound. Clones screw this up about 95% of the time. Once you get around 12 Oçlock copying the OD sound can even be near perfect. So I check the Boost part first. No chime and I pull it off my board immediately. The best Klon I have heard is the Hardby Pedals Centauri. The boost is spot on as the maker uses the identical NOS parts. The pedal comes in unassuming standard Hammond "B"box painted white and sells for only $150.00 USD ;-)

    • @JohannesLabusch
      @JohannesLabusch Год назад +4

      Wow, you sound like a Klon specialist. What do you think about the Ceriatone from Centura? What do you think about the Tumulus? Thanks!

    • @LeviBulger
      @LeviBulger 5 месяцев назад +1

      I guarantee they don't use exactly the same NOS parts. In fact I know they don't. Klones are Klones and they only differ by the various resistances and capacitances that occur at various spots in the circuit, and that even holds true between two actual Klons. But by and large the actual circuitry is exactly the same between them all. Otherwise they wouldn't be Klones. What makes the most true to original Klones so expensive by collectors is the proper germanium trannies which are impossible to find and if you do find em like Brian Wampler did, your pedal will be worth way more than it should be just because of that. The other thing that will make a Klon a Klon is the buffer circuitry. If pedals don't have it wired the same way or at all, it's not going to sound like a Klon 100%

    • @guilletjean-jacques5107
      @guilletjean-jacques5107 3 месяца назад

      @@LeviBulger quelqu un qui modifie les pedales a fait cette modif avec la soul food , la meme modif qu avait fait JHS , et de son avis , cela ne vaut pas la peine , la difference est a peine audible !!!

  • @keithb5612
    @keithb5612 Год назад +1

    It would be great to get your impressions on the Kernom Ridge pedal Paul. It's a big bit larger and in a different price bracket than the Sugar Drive but seemingly has some very good tones available. Cheers

  • @vr750
    @vr750 Год назад +1

    really amazing comparison... have you try NUX Horseman? it cloning Klon Centaur too.. but the price cheaper than MXR sugar drive..
    great videos..

  • @budgetguitarherogeartv4143
    @budgetguitarherogeartv4143 Год назад +1

    Budget klon clone , moskey golden horse into crunch channel on boss katana mk1 head into 4x12 cab . What a tone 👌

  • @dmac3316
    @dmac3316 Год назад +3

    Sugar drive is a great pedal. One of the best I own 👍 highly recommend

  • @hellbillygoatboy
    @hellbillygoatboy Год назад

    Love mine. My board is the orange terror stamp, the sugar drive and a simple delay and reverb. It’s tiny and brilliant. The Sugar Drive sounds awesome to me; clone or not. $ is right as is the tone.

  • @bretspangler8717
    @bretspangler8717 Год назад +6

    For a Klon tone, I use a Boss OD-200, it does most types of overdrives with a 3-band eq.

    • @DBMorris
      @DBMorris Год назад

      That's what I'm using right now as well. It does so many different OD types and it does them well.

  • @AdamCox2010
    @AdamCox2010 Год назад +1

    Best thing about this pedal is that it has that built in buffer you can turn on and off depending on the here it’s in the chain.

  • @pauldncn1
    @pauldncn1 Год назад

    What reverb were you using?
    I loved the tone
    Looking for a time like that but with a touch of phaser for a song
    Sugar drive is impressive

  • @GundogJake
    @GundogJake 4 месяца назад

    Decibelics Golden Horse for the win, best I’ve heard along with The Reverend fuzz with a “special” setting. Handmade in Barcelona get on the build list👌

  • @TJauernigElectronics
    @TJauernigElectronics Год назад +5

    The first version of the Archer is actually a Klon. Bill Finnegan was even involved initially.

    • @Grant_Ferstat
      @Grant_Ferstat Год назад

      Is that right Tim? I thought it was that Rockett started the manufacture of the KTR but then they had a parting of the ways and the Archer resulted? I could be wrong, but that was my memory of it.

  • @garywaddell6309
    @garywaddell6309 Год назад

    What a great little pedal. Wondering how you use your ToneX with these kinds of pedals a does the gx 100 play a part in any of this, meaning you skip the amp models and only use effects?

  • @supercocomonsters6522
    @supercocomonsters6522 Год назад

    Please do the MXR Duke of Tone vs the reissue Matshall Bluebreaker pedal too. Cheers! 🍻

  • @stuart5466
    @stuart5466 Год назад

    What were you guys using for the clean tone? Sounded great.

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson9787 Год назад

    I didn’t know much at all about the Klon for a long time, other than it was really expensive, and then RUclips vomited Klon videos everywhere. I got the fever and settled on a sugar drive
    I don’t have any experience with any other Klon type pedal but the sugar drive has become my main pedal, and it’s always on. I like to stack it with another overdrive and it really livens up my tone; makes my amp sound a lot more harmonically rich!
    I like how versatile it is too, being able to be boost, really good overdrive, and then blend the two.

  • @partriotsfight5039
    @partriotsfight5039 Год назад

    You gotta try a Richie Kotzen RK5 pedal from Tech 21.
    Oh and if you’ve never tried a Richie Kotzen Fender Tele you NEED to ASAP

  • @jamiebriggs8277
    @jamiebriggs8277 Год назад +2

    Nice comparison. Between the two I'd definitely go with the Sugar Drive.
    However, I picked up a Mosky Silver Horse klon clone a couple years ago for $28 USD, and it sounds as good as any klon clone I've heard (and it has a mode switch for extra variation).
    I'm cheap, so if I can get a ~$30 pedal the does the same thing a ~$130 pedal does...I'm getting it :D
    Mostly agree with you on the use of the klon style pedals, though I do occasionally get the sound I'm after with the higher gain settings.
    But more often I get the sound I'm after in that vein with my cheap King of Tone clone (JOYO King of Kings, ~$60)...
    Would love to see a similar video for MXR's new (ish) Duke of Tone that they made in collaboration with Analog Man.

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar Год назад

      I was thinking about that Mosky, I saw one use once, but I didn't felt I needed it. It was pretty stupid because it was practically free haha!

  • @Nightwinflyer
    @Nightwinflyer Год назад +9

    Another pedal to consider is the TC Electronic Zeus. Very affordable, sounds fantastic.

    • @PIC121220
      @PIC121220 Год назад

      It's already posted by Studio Rats.

    • @Nightwinflyer
      @Nightwinflyer Год назад

      Thanks, I'll check it out.

  • @Rockstarwilliam
    @Rockstarwilliam 5 месяцев назад

    Not sure if you covered it but curious what type of amp you’re using on that clean sound which sounds like a almost slightly edge of break up

  • @davidwoods358
    @davidwoods358 Год назад +1

    While they do sound slightly different I can't say that one sounds better than the other. I'd be curious to put the Sugar Drive in front of my little MX5 and see how it meshes with everything else in the box. It just might save me a foot switch.

  • @pauldncn1
    @pauldncn1 Год назад

    Another slightly connected comment
    Being a new user of the Katanamk2 and not being able to play or tweak daily mainly due to arthritis , your patches are a perfect solution and a great starting point to build on
    Thank you guys
    Much appreciated

    • @pauldncn1
      @pauldncn1 Год назад

      Thanks .. what reverb were you using on this guitar here it’s p lovely

  • @KRAZEEIZATION
    @KRAZEEIZATION Год назад +3

    It’s a pretty awesome pedal. I bought the Fat Sugar pink version as I don’t like the small pedals. I bought the MXR Super Badass Dynamic OD soon after and that’s awesome too.

  • @richardo6357
    @richardo6357 Год назад

    I agree with the other guy, chasing unicorns. I have a pile of them in the corner and just plug into the amp and turn it up now a days.

  • @ronaldj.glaser9701
    @ronaldj.glaser9701 8 месяцев назад

    with the KTPR, and the MXR sugar, drive; my question would be, can you obtain the gold, and the silver modes with either of these and if so, what are the differences between those two modes. Using these clans.

  • @corymillen9824
    @corymillen9824 Год назад +3

    How do you never get a bad tone on anything you play thru? I’d really like to know what your recording setup is cause it sounds awesome!!!

  • @plantagenant
    @plantagenant Год назад +52

    Far too many pedals that all sound very much the same. It's ironic that the great classic rock sounds that were created in the 60s and 70s were done with very few pedals or none at all. It's turned into chasing Unicorns.

    • @honkytonkinson9787
      @honkytonkinson9787 Год назад +2

      The amps were pretty nice back then though!

    • @andyhamlett8814
      @andyhamlett8814 Год назад +6

      It’s all cork sniffing to me 😂

    • @jazznotes3802
      @jazznotes3802 Год назад +3

      @@andyhamlett8814 Cork sniffers love their tubes/valve amps, then they put a transistor drive pedal all over their tone 😂.
      It’s funny how tube overdrive pedals sound like shit compared to one’s with op amps and Jfet’s. Solid state for the win 🥇 lol.

    • @0megalul309
      @0megalul309 Год назад +1

      @@jazznotes3802 cork sniffers don't even use pedals, cheap low headroom solid state ruins tube dynamics

    • @kevinbirge2130
      @kevinbirge2130 Год назад +1

      You had a guitar, you had an amp, you had a sound. Chris Britton, The Troggs.

  • @nigeldaddyo
    @nigeldaddyo Год назад

    What are the odds? I did this very shootout against my friend's KTR and I like my Sugar Drive better...and money was not a factor. I'd previously been using a J Rockett Archer pedal for years and then I went down the Helix path and sold off a lot of my pedals as I don't like keeping stuff if I'm not using it. At some point later I decided I wanted to build a small "conventional" board for the occasional break from the Helix and decided to give the Sugar Drive a shot after hearing good things about them. No regrets! Side note- J Rockett was the company that made the KTR pedals for Finnegan. Perhaps that's why in all the Klon Klone shootouts that feature many Klones, the Archer always wins?

  • @FGg503
    @FGg503 Год назад

    Listening to this, there's no question that value for money lies with the Sugar Drive. It's great all around. The only difference is when the Klon drive is cranked to the max, it's slightly "fuller". Thats it!

  • @G-NutZ
    @G-NutZ 11 месяцев назад

    What amp are you using?

  • @mightymikeamps9317
    @mightymikeamps9317 Год назад

    So is this signal path guitar>pedal>Matchless>Torpedo Live>Apollo>computer
    Or pedal in front of the AXfx?

  • @jessefillmore
    @jessefillmore Месяц назад

    I bought my KTR in 2017 for $380 kicking and screaming . But any drive pedal I compare it too , the KTR sounds better . In some case it's 5-15% better . But that 5-15% is mainly where most of us live .

  • @mikebarnard2689
    @mikebarnard2689 Год назад

    Cmon, try Decibelics Golden Royale... the business !!

  • @scke3717
    @scke3717 Год назад +1

    Driving a tube amp is something that can be done in a zillion ways, even an equalizer pedal can do the trick.

  • @Adventuresingearland
    @Adventuresingearland Год назад

    Cracking little unit isn't it!

  • @tomusic8887
    @tomusic8887 Год назад

    Finger blocks the mxr light...😁🤟

  • @DeloreanDave
    @DeloreanDave Год назад

    Hey Paul, is the xotic sp the best compressor for a tele to take away some of the brightness?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Год назад +1

      Hi Dave, it’s a great compressor but it’s not going to take away brightness, it will soften the initial transient if that’s how you want to set it.

    • @DeloreanDave
      @DeloreanDave Год назад

      @@TheStudioRats ah okay! I thought u used it for brighter guitars and the keeley one for darker! Im wanting to buy one for my tele but not sure on best!

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Год назад

      @@DeloreanDave are you eq’ing your amp for a humbucker guitar?

    • @DeloreanDave
      @DeloreanDave Год назад

      ​@@TheStudioRats Using a JCM2000 if i'm using the Tele do i just lower the treble and presence? its mainly alternative rock im playing. Like maxing the mids

  • @guilletjean-jacques5107
    @guilletjean-jacques5107 4 месяца назад

    je n avais retenu que 2 pedales , La Warm audio Centavo et la MXR sugar drive , et j ai acheté la Centavo , vous devriez dailleur , si vous pouvez l avoir en test , la comparer a votre KTR , je penses que beaucoup de monde seraient interressé par ce comparatif .

  • @nighalator
    @nighalator Год назад +1

    Or a tumnus mini

  • @rogerYT69
    @rogerYT69 Год назад

    love the sugar drive ...other good k clones in my opinion are ...way huge conspiracy theory and the centavo 😉

  • @theWARMJET
    @theWARMJET Год назад

    I guess the soul food does it pretty close too

  • @garyslash7552
    @garyslash7552 Год назад

    Have you tried the Warmaudio Centavo? Would be intersting to hear what you say

  • @JakeAikens
    @JakeAikens Год назад +1

    I've seen a bunch of videos like this and the clones sound just like the real thing. Why someone would spend $7000 on a Klon I can't understand.

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch Год назад +1

    All you need to know to buy a Sugar Drive are three magic words. 1. Christone. 2, "Kingfish", 3. Ingram.

  • @tippss3332
    @tippss3332 Год назад

    Warm Audio Centavo is spot on. Best of the clones

  • @Dwoed
    @Dwoed 15 дней назад

    This or the Rawdog?

  • @davidhamilton7780
    @davidhamilton7780 Год назад +1

    Also from the House of Dunlop, the Way Huge Conspiracy Theory is well worth consideration.
    Not such a fan of fluffers myself

  • @redcomn
    @redcomn Год назад

    What amp did you guys plug this into?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Год назад +2

      we use a capture of my matchless on a TONEX pedal

  • @richardlynch5632
    @richardlynch5632 Год назад

    😉👍❤🖖

  • @giovannibonapace4250
    @giovannibonapace4250 11 месяцев назад

    It's so funny ...
    I've just received a sugar drive but i cocked up as i meant to get an Mxr timmy ...
    The truth is ....
    I'm glad i made a mistake as the sugar drive is brilliant ...
    Sometimes things are meant to be ahaja

  • @bischteinjohn5998
    @bischteinjohn5998 Год назад

    Is not Josh who wants...

  • @truthfactreality6814
    @truthfactreality6814 Год назад +1

    The nux horseman is better

  • @stringlocker
    @stringlocker Год назад +2

    Haha all overdrive's pretty-much sound the same.

  • @DBroce
    @DBroce Год назад

    Sure, but it doesn’t look as cool as my fake on my pedalboard.

    • @ces69
      @ces69 Год назад

      Saves a lot of space though!😊

  • @chickenlickin3820
    @chickenlickin3820 Год назад

    When you say here's the clean tone why is your guitar drenched in the shit? and yes i mean reverb and delay!

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Год назад +1

      Let’s sort the question you basically answered. Its my guitar, it’s my guitar sound. If you don’t like reverb I’d look elsewhere.

  • @ronmoes42
    @ronmoes42 Год назад

    dear guitarists, I want to share my honest opinion about pedals in conjuction with your amp being a head or a combo or even on your pc via simulation. You know when they say ''don't judge a book by it's cover'' well since everyone gets excited by just the look of a pedal and see it as a means to an end, or miracle work, it is just a patch job in my opinion. It just is gain staging at best with some exaggeration in the mid frequency range or highs. See it just brings out the lead or crunch of how your amp is sounding.. There is no point in buying expensive boutique pedals if the job can be done with a cheaper sollution. If guitarists just could be content with a clean, crunch and lead tone of their amp, you really just need a few pedals.. More so it is all about where you place the pedal and how you use it than what you use in my opinion.

  • @DBMorris
    @DBMorris Год назад

    It's ridiculous to me that anyone would pay the price for a Klon when there are so many pedals out there for around a hundred bucks that will do the same thing and more, with a much smaller footprint on the pedal board.