A King of Tone Without the 5 Year Wait? - MXR Duke of Tone
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» 0:00 What is the Analog Man King of Tone?
» 3:02 A Quick Look at the MXR Duke of Tone!
» 6:12 Some Tones from the King of Tone!
» 9:45 Let's Listen to the Duke of Tone and Compare
» 23:10 Final Thoughts?
» 24:35 Comparing the King of Tone with a Tone City Pedal!
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Another example of Anderton's gracious honesty! Can you do the same with the MXR Timmy please?
I love my MXR Timmy!
@@chipsterb4946 i had the timmy, got rid of it. it was ok, but not great. the prince of tone and duken of tone are much better.
@@louiscyfer6944 all depends on guitar, amp, and ultimately ears. I really like the Duke of Tone but still use Timmy too.
I have an original/non-MXR Timmy and it's one of my favorite ODs, second only to my KoT. My favorite thing to do with it is put it on a loud but clean amp and set the Timmy to just _barely_ break up a tiny bit. It retains all the scoopy clarity but adds just that tiny bit of throatiness right where I want it. It's one of the only dirt tones where I'm content without any tube breakup at all. Truly enjoyable for electric Clapton stuff, Knopfler, Lenny/Riviera Paradise pos. 2/4 sounds, etc.
To be fair, that Tone City' KoB sounded (the same) really close.
And better than MXR
The Duke has the high gain mod that is optional on King of Tone pedals. That's why it has more gain.
That's what it sounds like, for sure. And the trimmer for treble on this Duke sounds like it is doing nothing. EDIT: ah, fully CW it sounded like the KOT.
Can you run 18V into the Duke for more clean headroom?
I believe you can.
@@JohnShalamskas I have one, and yes I have ran it in 18V and I had more headroom
@@noahmoran2885
I just got one recently, and I really dig it, but it really needs the volume maxed, and I had forgotten it can run on 18v.
Can’t wait to get home and try it on 18v.
"I see the sound, it makes me think of the fence" - the legendary Danish Pete @14:20 Keep it up man, you're awesome!
To be fair, there is a great tone coming from the Duke. The boost setting was very close to the King. I’d be happy with either pedal if I were in a position to purchase one
I build a part for part repro and I can honestly say this pedal is priced fairly! For anyone saying that it cost to much for a simple circuit…I urge you to check prices on fuzzfaces 😅.
The kot isnt cheap to build! Mike is using all nos Panasonic caps, Allen Bradley nos resistors (where they apply) and all other components are of the highest quality.
More times than that you find pedal companies that build what people think is an amazing pedal just to find that they skimp out on something as simple as a 9 V jack. Analogman is one of the few pedal builders that still obtains those old school hand wired quality pedal building techniques!
And the diodes are impossible to find and can cost upwards of $50
The KoT is wired as red side into yellow side, OD into boost. You can order a mod where there are independent jacks for both sides of the pedal, for running each side into your loop switcher. You can also order it with the external toggle switch for Clean Boost / OD / Distortion, just like the Duke. The yellow side has a slightly larger mid boost than the red side, since it is intended for use as a boost after OD. There is also a higher gain mod that you can order for either or both sides of the KoT. It is equivalent to making the 12 o'clock gain setting at the 9 o'clock position on the higher gain model. It's just a single resistor change.
I've had the Duke of Tone for a couple weeks now.
INSTANTLY became my favorite overdrive pedal.
I sometimes push it with my Timmy by MXR.
LOVE it!!
Always enjoy your videos, BTW. Thank you!
This is my goal...
I love the fence analogy!!! I think about tone this way.. and what's most appealing is a very open sound... Natural and it breathes... But the fence is allowing most of it to come thru, but still restricting it some
Have had mine now for a couple of weeks and it is great! I have it sitting in front of a jcm clone and it really made things come alive. The Duke is well worth the money imo.
Great video as usual......great work guys, always entertaining
This was the best pedal comparison video I've ever seen... Great job !
I love your videos! So detailed, focused.
You know exactly what we want to hear. Love it ❤️
The KoB sounds AMAZING!
The MXR sounds pretty good and I would definitely consider it if I were lookin for a drive. But, if I were looking for a King of Tone pedal, that King of Blues does it for me.
Duke is great! Running it next to a Wampler Pantheon and love the combination of the two together. Especially when you can change the DoT flavor to match your musical craving for that moment.
Love my Pantheon! It can do everything from spot on Klon/Bluesbreaker tones to pretty awesome high gain sounds as well. Super versatile!
Thanks again for another fine pedal demo. The best on the internet Imo. The Duke Of Tone sounds great. There's so many great drive pedals though. We might be living in the golden age of pedals, or at least a golden age of pedals. There's so many literally great drives and fuzzes out there that it can be overwhelming.
‘The poverty of wealth’
I’m exactly one year away and have been waiting for four years already. Looks like I’m getting this pedal to hold me over.
I listened to this (not watching) while making breakfast, and the differences are sooooo minor - who cares, it captures the essence almost perfectly.
Cool demo. I’m just glad we live in an era where we have so many options to choose from.
And no matter your budget, there is something that will get you in the ballpark of that expensive piece of gear you would buy if you had the money.
Just bought the tone city kob and got it today. Amazing! No need for the other pedals
Nice video. It sounds like the DoT had its treble set higher at the factory than the KoT was set at.
I can't think of any other presenters that compliment each other more seamlessly AND deliver knowledgeable, funny, relevant material without personal criticism of any sort! Just brilliant and the high watermark (for me) others should aspire to! Great video lads.
So uplifting, and when I have a crap day - I head straight to your videos! Cheers me right up! More dad jokes please!🤣🤣
I mean yeah but have you watched that pedal show?
Cool pedals. Haven’t watched an Andertons vid in a bit…was like hanging out with old friends watching Danish Pete and the Cap’n.
Nice Demo - Thanks
Sounds pretty spot on!
Best Tone City King of Blues demo ever.
I had the Prince of Tone when it came out. In fact I got the mine from the 3rd shipment although I ordered it on day one. I sat there for about 2 hours trying to connect because of the thousands doing the same. I kept mine for 2 years and hated it. It has a mid range honk with no balz whatsoever and no serious cut. In my band it sounded muddy. Keep in mind it is just a modded BluesBreaker, If you want that get the Browne Application Carbon. It is truly transparent, zero mud with bags of headroom.
Good video. The funny thing is that all 3 are close enough that in either a live setting or recording, any differences aren't going to be noticeable for anyone to care. Or you might just have slightly different tone settings on your guitar or amp, depending on which you're using. I'm still on the waiting list for a KoT (have a couple years to go) so we'll see if I end up ordering one or not but these are all good options if you want that style of pedal.
23:24 I don't know how happy other guitarists will be to wait 5 years for an overdrive, because many end up paying the $600 resale anyway, so in the end, you're indirectly charging $600 for the overdrive. Because most of the waiting list are probably not even guitarists and many must be double or triple accounts or more, hoping to buy several pedals to resell. If you would like to help provide guitarists with more access to the KOT, what you have to do is partner with a company that can make them under your terms and conditions, and thus all of us who want can access one, eliminating resellers.
These are grail pedals for me. The new HNDX20 by PRS and the Marshall studio 20 are on that list as well so thanks guys! 🙄😁
Nice touch using that purple telecaster
Had my Duke for two weeks & love it. Stacks so well with my Gladio & for the price it’s one of the best minis. Just don’t expect unicorn dust !
The money thing has gotten crazy, I’m guilty of gas just like the other guy but damn it’s hard to just pay for food, gasoline , electric, insurance etc! We all have become a slave to a piece of dang paper
@@kevinalfrey2633 why this mini bridges the financial gap perfectly. Good cure for GAS is to let another guitarist play your rig and listen well. Sometimes when we play we are so used to our own sound & think we need something else..when we don’t
@@lewisratford2908 I agree with your statements .
Andertons is absolutely selling me on Tone City pedals lately. Unbelievable. I will 100% be buying the King of Blues. I would like a Durple but not sure about shipping costs to the U.S. Andertons videos also sold me on a Greer Light Speed several years back. Had to have it.
I’ve found the trim pot in my DOT sounds best dailed back a bit. I’ve not seen anyone adjust the trim pot inside yet in a video. It made a positive difference in my experience
In the videos I've watched no one has mentioned a trim pot in the DOT yet (saw it here first.) Cool to know though. More adjustment options is always a good thing.
This guy did it: ruclips.net/video/yJYwvJjWMc4/видео.html
Yeah I haven't watched a ton of clips on it, but in one of the ones i did (I think SuperFunTimeHappyPedalShow), they mentioned in caption at the end that there was a trim for brightness that they realized after they shot the vid.
But this is the first vid I've seen mess with it.
I have the 68 Pedals clone. I'd be curious how the MXR compares with it too.
I do think it's awesome that Mike got with MXR on this tho. Very very cool thing to do.
I ordered my KOT with nearly all the options. I waited two+ years to get it. If you put down a Analogman Sun Lion, then the King of Tone, then a Bogner la grange, you have got a hell of a lot to work with, let me tell you from personal experience! These pedals can turn my Mesa Lonestar into a cranked JTM-45 or a full-on 69 Plexi at will ! But you will have to guard your board, obviously. The KOT can be ordered with extra jacks to route each side to a switcher if you want to go into that degree of control over it.
Love the Duke of Tone. Still on the wait for a KoT, but i prefer the Kasleder Fx Toxic Twins for a Blues Breaker circuit. I obviously havent tried them all when it comes to Blues Breakers, but i have the 2022 external dip switch version of the King Tone The Duellist, the Kasleder Fx Toxic Twins, and the MXR Duke of Tone and the Toxic Twins is by far my favorite. Obviously these things are subjective, but i really advocate for people to try the Toxic Twins. Its phenomenal, and stacking the Duke of Tone into the Toxic Twins nails the KoT sound and more.
Lee is so good at doing these videos. It’s like he’s got an innate talent to be a presenter. Been watching for years and always thought so.
There’s a presence dial on the inside you can adjust. Turn it all the way right to 0 to sound more like the King of Tone/Prince of Tone. King of Tone comes stock with the presence dial on 0.
I've got one play it all the time ,they are good.🤑King Of Tone
a bit more low end in the KOT and slighty smoother imo but i like botth
MXR is one of the best pedal companies there is. Everything I have from them does it's job perfectly and they're built really well. Currently using the Custom Comp deluxe, Univibe, Shin Juku Drive, and reverb.
thanks for telling us what you currently use.... as if anyone asked or if signal chain had anything to do with this video...
@@sethlover6498 You're welcome :)
Wow first i’ve seen JM had used KOT. Pretty cool.
very happy with my Pantheon deluxe as my KoT clone.
Now I've seen your Kernom Ridge video I just feel that every video you do on overdrive pedals should have that in it.
Brilliant idea about doing a clean tone segment some day!
Thanks for the shootout...I just went and bought a King Of Blues (but I won't tell if you don't).
The King of Blues was amazing.
Sounds closer than the Duke imo.
i will definitely buy one. In person. In Your Store, Dear Captain!
I was most impressed by how good the King of Blues sounded compared to the KoT and DoT. Great job Tone City.
Duke is great sounding mini pedal.
There arent a lot of the Dukes left in the country, huh?
😂
Well let’s just thank God that you still have a King and a working Prince. Those two should get you all the tones you need.
I prefer the Prince of Tone. I tried the Duke of Tone but it made a whiney fuzzy noise all the time. Curiously, the red side of my old King of Tone started acting up as soon as I started using the Prince of Tone more often.
A Clean Tone video would be really cool. And sadly, I'm on a waiting list for the Duke of Tone as well haha.
Guitar players are crazy! There are so many variables, when it comes to a guitar tone at a gig, and in a studio session. The stuff these guys are talking about pointless. It’s like they’re looking for a guitar that’s perfectly tuned. Impossible! But, that’s what makes it great. Those old recording consoles had channels that all were similar but different from the next channel. That’s what made those boards sounds great. I do get it, a great performance starts with a great tone. But, just as in tuning a guitar, you correct the intonation as best you can, tune it up, and let it ride. Love these brothers. Much love for the channel.
I believe the Duke is actually modelled after the Prince with the high gain mod, which would explain why the Duke needs a lower gain setting to match Pete's older King. And if I remember correctly, the difference is the value of one component in the circuit.
In my KoT, the high gain side has a letter “H” painted on the chip in yellow 😂
You are correct. Analogman actually said the same thing. It’s based on the Prince of Tone, not the KoT. 👍
I forgot I had put myself on this list in 2017, and got mine direct from Analogman earlier this year. Just after I bought the Carbon. 😂
What’s the carbon? Brown amplification carbon? I’d never heard of it
So it really is a 5 years waiting list now. Glad I bought the Pantheon Deluxe.
This is how I eq my clean tone. Dial in as much high-end as I can without it being harsh.. then dial in the bass to match the high-end.. then roll in mids before the point it gets "muddy"
Very well done comparison!
My apologies if this is a duplicate - I thought I’d typed a comment but do not see it anywhere.
That Tone City pedal certainly is a bargain. However, the overdrive side is lacking fidelity/fullness to my ears compared to the KoT.
On to the Duke of Tone. I spent months trying to hit Analog Man’s website at the right time on Wednesday to get a Prince of Tone but it just wasn’t happening. So I got Wampler’s Pantheon (Blues Breaker style) overdrive instead. It has 3 gain settings, 3 overdrive “voices”, an active Bass control and a Presence control in addition to the volume, gain and tone (treble) found on the KoT. Super versatile and a nice pedal. However, it doesn’t do the King of Tone thing automatically. I got a Duke of Tone a month or so ago and it took a while to dial the Pantheon in to mimic the DoT. You can get nearly identical feel/tone/overdrive with a some effort. Sometimes more controls isn’t necessarily better.
For my pedal board and amp (Princeton Reverb), the Duke of Tone has a bit more upper mids than I might like but I don’t play in a band. Might be just the thing for live music. I’m going inside to see if that trim pot inside the DoT is a Presence control to turn it down. Thanks for pointing that out!
For me, the DoT is a really nice overdrive. The 3-way boost/overdrive/distortion toggle switch on top is great and gives you a LOT of range. The overdrive has a distinctive voice but it’s kind of perfect for blues/rock and not as obvious as a TubeScreamer. Best of all IMHO the Duke of Tone gets an A+ in the “plays well with others” department. For now, I have DoT, Tumnus Deluxe (think Klon), Pantheon, then MXR Timmy - in that order. That way I have a clean-ish boost either before or after my two primary overdrive flavors. Together I can get just about any tone and/or overdrive feel I want.
I played the Prince of Tone a little while back. It sounds really good! The high gain surprised me. But I didn't want to drop $200 for a used pedal. I might get the Duke though!
I got a 68 pedals King of Clone after seeing a youtuber show that the circuit and parts are the same as the king of tone. Also side by side demoed and well .. yep. Happy with mine.
Yup same here too, the 68 pedals KoC is a great sounding pedal, though I do intend to get the Analog Man KoT when my name comes up on the list to pay my dues to to the inventor.
Yup 68 pedals KOC owner here and it’s a fantastic pedal!
Speaking of tone, it would be truly interesting if you interviewed Norwegian guitarist & singer Ole Borud. Some fascinating tones of his Soul Letters (2022), and older albums too!
900k sub king of tone im in!!
Got a 68 Pedals KoC
Works Perfect and Sounds like KoT
Great video…. That Tone City pedal was clearly a King of Tone clone. I think Engine A was on the distortion setting. I maybe looking at more Tone City pedals in the future it I need a specific sound that doesn’t break the budget.
I think a lot of people buy a KOT expecting an amp in a box pedal. It is not an amp in a box. The KOT is like a gain stage adder. It does a fantastic job at adding stages of gain to a great sounding amp when you just need more drive. It has worked extremely well with every amp I have tried it on. If you want a pedal to be your dirty channel then there are definitely better pedals. If you want to take your good sounding amps crunch or gain into the next few levels of gain then I don’t think there’s a better pedal. Think of this pedal kind of like a Klon. In that it is designed to add flavor to your amps tone. Not to be a channel all to itself..It will do that as well. Just not as well as other pedals that are designed for that purpose. It absolutely deserves the hype. I’m at the end of the waitlist. Getting ready to order my second KOT this week.
Do you have to get on the waiting list every time you want to buy a KOT? I bought one a few years ago and sold it. I wanted to buy another one but didn’t get back on the waiting list.
An interesting comparison would be the Duke vs the Prince as the Prince of Tone is more readily available through Analogman than the KoT. Appreciating the Duke would still be easier to acquire in the UK and the King sets the benchmark for tonal comparison, so no doubt about the great value this video insight offers. I think Prince vs Duke could arguably be the more immediate consumer question though??
SEE: That Pedal Show.
analog mike says the duke sounds exactly like the prince of tone.
I was hoping it wouldn’t, but the big box one really does sound better
I'm honestly shocked how different they sound. There's more unpleasant sizzle in the mxr and there's also less mid-low end compared to the KoT.
Yeah exactly
I preordered two Duke of tone pedals then, a couple of days later, I got my email from Analog Man saying that my place on the waiting list had come up and I could order my King of Tone. Lol. Oh, and I also have the Tone City King of blues.
So now that you’ve had them all, what do you think of each? Thx
It’s my favorite overdrive I hope others will now have more access to it but I don’t think it will be exact.
It's important to note Duke of Tone is modelled on a Prince of Tone which has the high gain King of Tone circuit
Mine has a dip switch to set between high gain and normal. I've always assumed that is standard in the PoT?
@@philwalker79 Oh maybe sorry, I only have the duke so I may be mistaken about the prince, duke is definately the high gain circuit though
to me, the Duke sounds like it has a little more mid range bias vs the total transparency of the King, but for my use, i'm looking at replacing a tube screamer on my board with one of these, so the Duke is getting me MUCH closer to transparent than a Screamer. I'm buyin it!
It’s a win for the tone city! I mean it doesn’t look as good and your friends won’t go oooh! But it sounds pretty much the same, tricky most pedal sounds are available now at all price points, so I guess it come down to who you want to support and cork sniffing?
the bluesbreaker is a great enhance to youre core tone, but with Pete's guitar playing it really takes it another direction.
I think a better head to head comparison would be with the PoT Prince of Tone. I have a PoT and also have the 68 pedals clone while I wait forever on the KoT wait list. Good job guys, none the less!
So what you are saying is you already have two Identical pedals and now you know there is a third almost perfect copy for only 60 available but you want to wait 5 years for one that is 5 times the price? Is this a collectable thing or am I missing something?
@@joetheman74 Well, there is always the choice of clipping diodes on the clones that might make a difference, but I don't use distortion mode so 1N914 for OD is fine.
Isn't the PoT just one half of the KoT?
@@suede__ No. There are subtle variations between them in the EQ. The KoT has more mid push on the boost side (yellow LED, left side.) The PoT also uses the higher gain mod on its op-amp gain. There may be other differences that I am unaware of.
I really dig the Duke! not midhumpy and can turn the tone and drive down...a very usable pedal to with my others...
Best Tone City and ever!
Great video, I do have to wonder if a King of Tone that was made recently would be closer to the Duke of Tone than Pete's pedal is. Although, for my bad ears, and equally lackluster playing ability, the Tone City version is as close as I ever need to be.
Just got mine today that I ordered back in September. So, only a three month wait, at least in my case. :)
Well that’s me getting a king of blues! Few tweaks and a tube screamer stacked and you’ve basically got the analog version.😂
Engine A of the KOB is actually a Klone (if you break the rules and open the back). Engine B is an ok POT (they used the wrong value of one component).
Great video, as always!
May I ask what the wrong POT value is? Can it be solved with some soldering?
Thanks
@@giovannivicari8615 I don’t recall. I have read that the original KOB’s were through hole components, and could be modded, but the later ones were all smc.
@ 27:51 Lee's "it's not that different is it!" comment killed me.
My KOT Serial Number is 4181, It is a V4 with Red Side High Gain, with Toggle switch on it.
The Duke is trully well worth the money, I think. I use my humble trusty Cmat Mods Butah for the "Bluesbreaker pedal vibe" sound
Great video but pissed myself when you plugged the king of blues in 😁 get some purple spay paint job done ✔️ would have loved to have seen a beringer in the tube screamer vid 😉 😇❤😈
DemonFx and budget brands like Caline and Joyo have alternatives/clones on the cheap.
King of Tone & Blues can be tweaked to sound close enough to not matter but either of them can do things the other cannot as they are not precise clones. Different tonepaint for starters.
Very interesting. The MXR one has a very MXR characteristic that my MXR M77 has.
I've always said that I much prefer amp distortion over pedal distortion, because to my ears pedals have this "fakeness" to their distortion. To my ears (through youtube) the Duke of Tone has that fakeness while the KOT doesn't.
I will describe it as this: Imagine that you have a nice piece of toast that is nice and warm and fluffy yet crunchy. That is amp gain, that is the KOT. Now imagine that you take that piece of toast and you put something heavy on top of it so it gently squishes. That is pedal gain, that is what I am hearing on the Duke of Tone. It is very similar to the KOT, but it feels squished, like the nice fluffy texture is gone and everything else stays the same but a tiny bit harsher.
Edit: how does the Tone City copy sound way better than the official copy from MXR?
15-20% variance on any knob, try an A/B with the same new pedals , same settings and they wont be the same
Great comparison! It sounds like they're almost identical in the boost mode and very close in distortion mode, but it's odd that in OD mode the King seems to be all about those creamy mids, while the Duke sounds super-scooped... and as I was writing this comment I got to the bit where you tweaked the internal pot of the Duke which seems to dramatically reduce the scooping. :D
...and then Tone City came along and destroyed everything. Serious bang for buck there!
wow, this is the best proof everyone should jump ship to the duke! ... so that i can get my king sooner 🤫
The tone city pedal is great regardless of the money.
Hey there it is!! You guys need your own version! Call Tone City and tell them to make you the CAPTAIN of AnderTONES! I will take a royalty on that one! 🤣
I have a DoT and I’ll say this:
The tone is amazing - it’s just small sounding. It sounds like a small pedal. My thought is that MXR should’ve made it 12v-18v. It needs more headroom. Every time I click it on it just starts distorting unlike my KoT.
Like I said earlier, unbelievable tone - just not the SAME as a PoT or KoT. Hope this helps.
DoT can take 18v. I run mine on 18v.
I bought a clone last year of the kot. For $67 off reverb from some builders in canada. It quickly became my fav overdrive / boost! I would put it up against any pedal shown here today!
Do you perhaps have the name of the builders?
I saw Pete there a little after the 9 minute mark correcting Lee's pronunciation of "stook". "Stalk", lol!
Funny thing with "matching the controls" is most don't check to see if the dials are calibrated, even if they were, potentiometers often have varying resistance within a few percent.
potentiometers are commonly +/- 15 or 20 percent!
They were commenting how the mxr was a little brighter than the king of tone. It seemed to just be the difference in the internal trim pot settings.
I would love to meet the duke of tone
KOT has a much sweeter mid tone, and much less fizz in the gain. More clarity throughout the gain spectrum.
I think this video just sold about 100 Tone City King of Blues!
yep!