I’m a ramp agent for Southwest Airlines, my favorite thing about the ramp is Deicing it’s an amazing opportunity to have the privilege to do such a thing!
I remember flying out of the Toronto, Canada airport during a blizzard. My plane was de-iced twice. When we finally started our takeoff run, I just remember looking out of my window, and thinking, "We've been going down the runway for a LONG TIME now, and we still haven't left the ground..." It was only later that I realized that we probably used up every foot of the runway to takeoff. That freaked me out.
Dear Captain Joe, can you explain how aviation radio communication works? e.g. from before leaving the gate, taxiing, takeoff, while in flight, before landing, after landing, and last but not least when arrive at the gate. Also, how to properly call for both normal and emergency (pan and mayday)? Thank you!
well there are 2 differences in radio^^ if its a VFR flight or its a IFR flight with a fixed flight plan so in terms of airliners 1. requesting flight clearance for the flightplan 2.requesting pushback and taxi 3. tune in tower for take off clearance 4.contact departure 5. during flight u will pass sectors so if no changes or so happen in a sector u will hear just to contact next sctor control like contact vancouver center at 111.90 before landing u will speak to approach in landing to tower and after landing and leaving the rwy ur speaking with ground^^ and for emergency calls PAN PAN PAN (Callsing) is DECLARING PAN PAN PAN due to xxxxx Problem repeat (callsign) is declaring PAN PAN PAN due to xxxxx this is also the same with mayday but mayday means that this problem is very serious ;) like PAN PAN PAN Minimum Fuel (can be used when ur getting to the fuel limit to safely divert so u cant stay in holding for much longer and atc will get u faster to the ground)
Man, I've been an enthusiast of flying for years but I haven't seen anyone explain it so clearly and openly. Thank you for what you're doing. It means a lot to me.
A "Captain" can be a positional title. I was a "Captain" even though I held the rank of Commander...I also had the positional authority/responsibility that came with it. Also, corpsman in the Marines are often called "Doc" yet everyone knows they're not "Doctors" per se. C'mon...
Awesome video Joe! I work at FedEx express and I'm part of the deice crew. We shoot for a 5 minute spray and most of the time we go under that. Love the videos man! Keep up the great work!
Dude you make very good videos, as an spanish speaker and as a student pilot, this is very helpful to practice my english and in the way learn more about operations and aircraft system!! Very good work Joe
I've seen the duration of deicing vary based on the type and amount of ice. Had the first flight out of Cleveland and it took quite a while to get the plane clean from the overnight storm. Only seen type 4 once, didn't know exactly what it was at the time but I knew it had to be for more extreme weather. It was crazy to see it stick to the plane through most of the take off.
Indeed! If propylene glycol was toxic we would see piles of dead e-cig smokers (vapers) on the streets. Propylene glycol is used (instead of ethylene glycol) as de/anti-ice agent for airplanes because of it's not toxic.
We would also see airport ground services recruiting new deicer personnel constantly. Besides deicing airplanes, propylene glycol is used as a food additive (E1520) and intravenous drug carrier fluid and many more uses. ☺
Ethylene glycol, the type used in your car for antifreeze is toxic... but a few years ago they added a substance that makes it very distasteful. It was killing a lot of pets.
Thanks for explaining this in more detail. I used to have a friend who was a pilot for Jet Blue, and he explained to me that if a plane has a certain amount of ice it flat out can't fly.
Up here in the Edmonton International airport we have a special pair of deicing pads for the planes that have just left the gate if the temperature ever goes below -35c or we have heavy snow. Despite a general deicing treatment while taking on passengers these planes are directed to these two deicing pads where four trucks are waiting to give the plane additional deicing. They are very quick about this and the trucks are custom built just for this airports use in allowing full remote deicing boom operation because the jet engines are in idle. The Tarmac is also good for the environment as it is hooked into a dedicated water recovery and treatment system. Any plane waiting for more than 30 min while in taxi also must be called back to this deicing pad to make sure no ice built up as it was waiting to take off. Our weather is that severe.
I have to say that your videos keep me motivated in wanting to follow my dream and also motivates me to study harder to achieve my dream that I'll be some day a pilot like you.
Love your video on tribute to airberlin. I watched the final flight video on DW yesterday, Berlin to Munich. Interestingly, the flight was delayed. With love from Nigeria.
Was on a flight from Kraków to Munich an early February morning in 2015 (had been to the Queen+Adam concert the night before, and even saw their private jet at the airport 😍) and the aircraft I was sitting in had to be de-iced before takeoff. It was just a pretty cool experience as a passenger to sit and look out through the window while the plane was de-iced. It was really fascinating
I was once in Serious Snowstorm in the Snow belt area of Erie PA ,USA in a Plane about to take off just Days before Christmas!We taxied to take off,accelerated and suddenly skidding of Brakes as the Plane struggled to take off! Luckily the Pilot 👩✈️ managed to stop and managed to get back to the Terminal!Where the Ground crew started spraying Deicing Chemical! Unfortunately we had to deplane and make our way back to hotel to try again another! Than God for the Skillful Pilot with a Full Tank of Gas and over 200 Passenger on a Plane that could have easily skidded to a Disaster! Hear! Hear ! For Pilot having to make Split Second Decisions And their Skillful Expertise Flying Aircraft!✌🏼👋👌👍✌🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇺🇸
You can do Anti Icing with heated type II. Even in a two steps procedure. First one with 50/50 and the second one with 75/25. The mixtures 50/50 and 75/25 are always heated to at least 60 degrees at the nozzle.
So far I've only missed one connection due to de-icing. It was a messed up itinerary booked by a travel agent back in the mid 90s. YHZ-YQM-YQB on one plane, then switch for YUL, switch again for YOW. We had to de-ice in YQM so I missed the YQB-YUL leg. Fortunately their was hourly service on a 18 seat prop from YQB-YUL, so I caught the next plane and made the connection from YUL to YOW.
I live in Australia. I’ve literally never seen snow. Ever. I’ve had an iced over windshield once in my life and that was only because my car was parked in the middle of a field basically (large backyard) overnight.
it's common in long flights that the fuel in the wingtanks with it's high thermal capacity cools down to temperatures well below freezing. then after landing, the icy fuel will cause the surface of the wing to cool, causing condensation and ultimately icing, even in warm weather.
For what its worth propylene glycol is used as a food additive so its not toxic unless you decide to chug a gallon of it or something. It is, however, sticky and very nasty once it gets all over things so you probably wouldn't like it sliming out the interior of the plane if it gets sucked in.
its one of the most important procedures. In SKP In 1994 Fokker 100 of Palair Macedonia crashed right after the runway due to not proper deicing of the plane. The plane took off and crashed 200 meter after take off. only 1 survived in the tail of the plane
The best thing to do is apply the de-icing fluid the night before so the snow and ice will slide off if you can't hanger the aircraft. A warm hanger is the best way to prevent ice build up and keeps the aircraft dry too.
Deicing provided me with one hell of a flight experience a couple years ago. So where I live we had the worst winter on record a couple years ago. I was flying out around that time and they had to keep the plane running to keep it warm. So we were delayed getting on the flight. When we finally boarded we had to go through the deicing process twice. Once the deicing was done the pilot realized there wasn't enough fuel to get to our destination (which is crazy because I was only flying across the state and my state isn't that big) so we had to go back to the gate and refuel. We took off about the same time we were supposed to land. Yeah it was a really short flight. But still. Very frustrating morning.
Thanks for this (as always) comprehensive explanation Captain Joe ;-) Regarding the "Upon completion of the spraying operation" section of the checklist you cover @7:14, shouldn't the DITCHING pb be set OFF instead of ON (which is its expected state anyway)?
Great video, but i have to mention that propylene glycol is NOT toxic. Disco fog is made out of PG, further is it an ingredient of many chewing gums, toothpaste and cosmetic products. Vapers use it as a basic ingredient of their vape juice.
In the 1980s, there was a scandal in Austria over anti-freeze in their wine. I read somewhere that to get rid of that year's wine production, they mixed it up with more anti-freeze and used it up over the winter at airports.
This is great video that explains a lot. My last flight I saw green fluid running of the wings during take off. I thought the plane was loosing hydraulic fluid but now I know why. Many thanks Joe
Ethylene glycol bad, propylene glycol is used as cough syrup base, vaping fluid, and for non toxic coolant/antifreeze. It smells funky and the same people that are irritated by vaping would be unhappy with PG in the cabin air.
Interesting effect of accumulated rough ice on the flight surfaces increasing drag. I'd love to see papers describing this. I met a glider pilot several years ago who discovered a curious effect that mimics the aerodynamics of a golf ball. What he did was affix duct tape in many layers to the leading edge and underside of the wing, creating a sort of step or terrace form. He discovered that it actually decreased drag and he was able to fly longer. I'm kicking myself for not remembering his name or being able to cite his paper, but it's interesting because the same effect should be roughly the same under certain icing conditions on the wing surfaces. Of course this doesn't assume the negative effects of the high density of ice for weighing down the wings and definitely not for its effect on control surfaces or their actuation. But it was a very curious thing and this video made me think of it.
Is there a maximum speed for airlines? What’s the speed of the airlines and what’s the limit? How do airlines cope up to land at exactly even after taking off late? More about speeds on each phase of the flight
Very nicely explained. Can you please make a video on different kinds of ice and how they are formed. Example: Frost, Hoar frost, Glaze ice, Rime Ice, Clear ice, Mixed ice, freezing Rain and Hail.
Minor gripe: propylene glycol is not particularly toxic, it's used in food and smoke machines. However, a load of fake smoke in the cabin wouldn't exactly inspire confidence in passengers.
Kevin Brennan : Any plane that has propellers has another surface that can accumulate ice. Ice can also build up on the engine intakes of jet engines if the ice then breaks off it can be sucked into the engine and possibly cause damage. Piston engine craft have their own issues. Carburetors can freeze which is why fuel injection is better. Jet engines are much more reliable than piston engines.
Joe you are the first pilot ever who tells everything in detail.. You're the best... Man keep it going!! 👍👍💪make a video about pilot's medical and eye test
stupid question perhaps, but at 1:33 you say that the ice will "increase stall speed". My assumption would be that the increased drag and reduced lift would lower the speed at which the plane would stall thus decreasing the stall speed. What am I missing?
proplyene glycol is actually generally regarded as safe for humans. It is mainly used only for high end de-icing or for specific circumstances that require a non-toxic solution, but uses go beyond aircraft for the most part. Ethylene glycol is actually what is used for commonly, and is fairly toxic.
I went through a deicing pad on Tuesday and a woman asked me why does we need to get deiced so I told her the same as your saying and Air Florida flight 90 that crashed into the Potomac river as ice and snow brought down the 737 leaving only 4 passengers and 1 cabin crew member surviving the plane crash.
Very interesting video there is more too deicing than meets the eye. GREAT VIDEO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE. Captain Joe I have a question reference my son joining the Bundeswehr (Luftwaffe)to gain his commercial licence could I email you ?
Ehhm, just a question: if you start up engines of your ACFT, hydraulic pumps will be driven and control surfaces such as ailerons and elevators (and vertical stab rudder of course), who were hanging down (or to one side --> rudder) due to low hydraulic pressure, will be put in there normal position. But there could be a possiblility of damaging these control surfaces, couldn't it?
G-CJOE...clever! I love your channel! You have a very talented way of using RUclips to educate people about your profession. I hope you land happily on your feet during this company changeover. I know those mergers/acquisitions/bankruptcies can be rough on a pilot's career.
Hey, so I was wondering, do airline pilots still do their own pre flight planning with altitudes airspeeds Times etc. or do airlines have their own department for that and they just brief the pilot on what the plan is
Hey Joe. I work at Vestergaard Company. We build De Ice trucks. It's great to be able to show your video to friends and family so they know why my work is important 😁
Hello Captain Joe i am not a pilot but i love planes, also love your videos i learned so much, but i have a silly question on de-icing why is it that they dont have a membrane covering the wing that is a heating element like the rear window defroster on cars. The membrane can be the thickness of tape
Is it important to apply de-icing to protect for take off only or to protect for inflight climb and cruise? Do we care about the fluid treatment maintaining its protection duration during known icing conditions In flight?
Since you did cold can you do a video about HOT weather operation? For example some smaller jets in Phoenix were grounded due to heat this summer. (120 degrees F) While bigger jets were unaffected
if you hate reading the descriptions of videos, this is what he said for those who couldnt hear: Dear friends and followers welcome back to my channel! Today´s video is another interesting topic regarding winter operation. Why do aeroplanes have to be deiced prior take-off? A lot of passengers underestimated how important it is to deice the critical surface of the aeroplane, such as the wings, flight control surfaces such as ailerons, slat and flaps rudders, vertical and horizontal stabilizer. On the ground, when there are freezing conditions and precipitation, de-icing an aircraft is crucial. A lot of passengers underestimated how important it is to deice as frozen contaminants cause critical control surfaces to be rough and uneven, disrupting smooth air flow and greatly degrading the ability of the wing to generate lift, and increasing drag. If larger pieces of ice separate when the aircraft is performing a take-off run, they can be ingested into engines intakes or hit propellers and cause catastrophic failure. Frozen contaminants can lock or jam control surfaces, preventing them from moving properly. But there is a major difference between De-icing and Anti-Icing an aircraft. De-icing is defined as removal of snow, ice or frost from a surface. Anti-icing is understood to be the application of chemicals that not only de-ice, but also remain on a surface and continue to delay the reformation of ice for a certain period of time, better known as the hold-over time (HOT), or prevent adhesion of ice to make mechanical removal easier. I´ll shortly mention the aerodynamic characteristics, regarding airplane stall speeds, in case an airplane wing is covered with thin ice. DEFINITION OF A STALL: Stalls in fixed-wing flight are often experienced as a sudden reduction in lift as the pilot increases the wing's angle of attack and exceeds its critical angle of attack (which may be due to slowing down below stall speed in level flight). A stall does not mean that the engine(s) have stopped working, or that the aircraft has stopped moving - the effect is the same even in an unpowered glider aircraft. I hope you enjoy this video! And I would also like to thank @photoaleksi (Instagram) for the outstanding thumbnail picture. And all others helping with their videos and support! Thanks for watching, all the best your "Captain" Joe
Joe, another good video. You brought up the Static Port. Could you do a video on explaining its purpose? Yes, I know, I could look it up, but I enjoy your real world explanations.
Hi, I'm a 15 yr old that's interested in becoming a pilot but I have pretty bad vision, about 3.5 diopters is it possible for me to fly for an airline? Thank you
Propilen glycol isn´t toxic. Ethylen glycol is. Both can be used as anti-freeze. That's why propilen glycol is used on food industry machines rather than the most common ethyl glycol widch is used on auto engines.
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this man is a legend, he explains detailed, i dont even have anything to do with pilots or travelling but its interisting.
Totally agree
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True. He reminds me of my good old high school physics teacher.
Agreed
Never thought I'd be so intrigued by details on flying like this
Joe you’re the best
Appreciate it, thanks!
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Indeed!
Totally read that as "deese"
Matt Deras I read it as dice, but then, I reread it correctly after being confused.
"why do pilots throw the dice?"
Why do pilots get diced?
I misread the title as "Why do pilots dance?"
Me too same deice dice
This video reminded me of the Air Florida flight 90 crash, which is a stark reminder of what can happen when a plane is not properly de-iced.
Correct, that was an accident cause due to lack of deicing!
Matthew is your last name buckley. Cause if it is we have the same first name and same last name
Kinda The same that happened to SAS flight 751, I think
Also make sure to check for gremlins on inspection. They are more likely to appear around this time of year (Halloween)
Nice one ;)
Just throw 'em in the microwave
Poes Law People say gremlins aren't real but if that was so then how can this be explained? 😀
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Poes Law I always think about the Twilight Zone episode when I fly.
Mentour pilot and Joe video at the same time. This is heaven
Having flown regularly in the Midwest USA, thank you for explaining where all those hours of my life went.
I’m a ramp agent for Southwest Airlines, my favorite thing about the ramp is Deicing it’s an amazing opportunity to have the privilege to do such a thing!
And my colleagues and I appreciate your work !!!
I remember flying out of the Toronto, Canada airport during a blizzard. My plane was de-iced twice. When we finally started our takeoff run, I just remember looking out of my window, and thinking, "We've been going down the runway for a LONG TIME now, and we still haven't left the ground..." It was only later that I realized that we probably used up every foot of the runway to takeoff. That freaked me out.
Dear Captain Joe, can you explain how aviation radio communication works? e.g. from before leaving the gate, taxiing, takeoff, while in flight, before landing, after landing, and last but not least when arrive at the gate. Also, how to properly call for both normal and emergency (pan and mayday)? Thank you!
well there are 2 differences in radio^^ if its a VFR flight or its a IFR flight with a fixed flight plan so in terms of airliners 1. requesting flight clearance for the flightplan 2.requesting pushback and taxi 3. tune in tower for take off clearance 4.contact departure 5. during flight u will pass sectors so if no changes or so happen in a sector u will hear just to contact next sctor control like contact vancouver center at 111.90 before landing u will speak to approach in landing to tower and after landing and leaving the rwy ur speaking with ground^^ and for emergency calls PAN PAN PAN (Callsing) is DECLARING PAN PAN PAN due to xxxxx Problem repeat (callsign) is declaring PAN PAN PAN due to xxxxx this is also the same with mayday but mayday means that this problem is very serious ;) like PAN PAN PAN Minimum Fuel (can be used when ur getting to the fuel limit to safely divert so u cant stay in holding for much longer and atc will get u faster to the ground)
Man, I've been an enthusiast of flying for years but I haven't seen anyone explain it so clearly and openly.
Thank you for what you're doing.
It means a lot to me.
Thanks for not dumbing this down, and still explaining it in a simple format. Well done!
Love you Captain Joe ❤️👌
A "Captain" can be a positional title. I was a "Captain" even though I held the rank of Commander...I also had the positional authority/responsibility that came with it. Also, corpsman in the Marines are often called "Doc" yet everyone knows they're not "Doctors" per se. C'mon...
We really feel your passion for flying, Joe!❤️Keep up the good work, your channel is amazing!✌🏻
Awesome video Joe! I work at FedEx express and I'm part of the deice crew. We shoot for a 5 minute spray and most of the time we go under that. Love the videos man! Keep up the great work!
we are from China, we enjoy your videos with our son every weekend, thank you so much,great channel !
I couldn't help but laugh at the windshield wiper flopping around.
Dude you make very good videos, as an spanish speaker and as a student pilot, this is very helpful to practice my english and in the way learn more about operations and aircraft system!! Very good work Joe
I've seen the duration of deicing vary based on the type and amount of ice. Had the first flight out of Cleveland and it took quite a while to get the plane clean from the overnight storm.
Only seen type 4 once, didn't know exactly what it was at the time but I knew it had to be for more extreme weather. It was crazy to see it stick to the plane through most of the take off.
Propylene glycol is not that toxic, but may cause irritation, so closing air bleeds is still a good idea.
Thanks for the info!
Indeed! If propylene glycol was toxic we would see piles of dead e-cig smokers (vapers) on the streets. Propylene glycol is used (instead of ethylene glycol) as de/anti-ice agent for airplanes because of it's not toxic.
We would also see airport ground services recruiting new deicer personnel constantly. Besides deicing airplanes, propylene glycol is used as a food additive (E1520) and intravenous drug carrier fluid and many more uses. ☺
yeah i also did think about it when its so toxic how they can be allowed to spray this in the outsides :D
Ethylene glycol, the type used in your car for antifreeze is toxic... but a few years ago they added a substance that makes it very distasteful. It was killing a lot of pets.
Thanks for explaining this in more detail. I used to have a friend who was a pilot for Jet Blue, and he explained to me that if a plane has a certain amount of ice it flat out can't fly.
Up here in the Edmonton International airport we have a special pair of deicing pads for the planes that have just left the gate if the temperature ever goes below -35c or we have heavy snow. Despite a general deicing treatment while taking on passengers these planes are directed to these two deicing pads where four trucks are waiting to give the plane additional deicing. They are very quick about this and the trucks are custom built just for this airports use in allowing full remote deicing boom operation because the jet engines are in idle. The Tarmac is also good for the environment as it is hooked into a dedicated water recovery and treatment system. Any plane waiting for more than 30 min while in taxi also must be called back to this deicing pad to make sure no ice built up as it was waiting to take off. Our weather is that severe.
I have to say that your videos keep me motivated in wanting to follow my dream and also motivates me to study harder to achieve my dream that I'll be some day a pilot like you.
Thank you Joe for such detailed info. Living in a semi tropical climate in Sydney, we never experience such shenanigans.
7:00 Big Up EGGP/ Liverpool, My local airport!! 😀
Joe, you never fail to impress me in all of your video presentations. Excellent!
Airframe icing also increases the weight of the aircraft, affecting performance, among other things.
The production value of Joe's videos are so good! ✈💖
Very much appreciate your comment, thanks!
Captain Joe much love from Ireland!
Love your video on tribute to airberlin. I watched the final flight video on DW yesterday, Berlin to Munich. Interestingly, the flight was delayed.
With love from Nigeria.
Was on a flight from Kraków to Munich an early February morning in 2015 (had been to the Queen+Adam concert the night before, and even saw their private jet at the airport 😍) and the aircraft I was sitting in had to be de-iced before takeoff. It was just a pretty cool experience as a passenger to sit and look out through the window while the plane was de-iced. It was really fascinating
I was once in Serious Snowstorm in the Snow belt area of Erie PA ,USA in a Plane about to take off just Days before Christmas!We taxied to take off,accelerated and suddenly skidding of Brakes as the Plane struggled to take off! Luckily the Pilot 👩✈️ managed to stop and managed to get back to the Terminal!Where the Ground crew started spraying Deicing Chemical! Unfortunately we had to deplane and make our way back to hotel to try again another! Than God for the Skillful Pilot with a Full Tank of Gas and over 200 Passenger on a Plane that could have easily skidded to a Disaster! Hear! Hear ! For Pilot having to make Split Second Decisions And their Skillful Expertise Flying Aircraft!✌🏼👋👌👍✌🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇺🇸
Green...all green, all winter in Eastern and Central 🇨🇦 😃
Loved the G-CJOE 🇬🇧!!!!!!
You can do Anti Icing with heated type II. Even in a two steps procedure. First one with 50/50 and the second one with 75/25. The mixtures 50/50 and 75/25 are always heated to at least 60 degrees at the nozzle.
Beautifully explained. Thank you Mr.Joe, the loving captain
Thanks For The Information Captain Joe.
Joe, you are inspiring, keep smiling!
So far I've only missed one connection due to de-icing. It was a messed up itinerary booked by a travel agent back in the mid 90s. YHZ-YQM-YQB on one plane, then switch for YUL, switch again for YOW. We had to de-ice in YQM so I missed the YQB-YUL leg. Fortunately their was hourly service on a 18 seat prop from YQB-YUL, so I caught the next plane and made the connection from YUL to YOW.
I live in Australia. I’ve literally never seen snow. Ever. I’ve had an iced over windshield once in my life and that was only because my car was parked in the middle of a field basically (large backyard) overnight.
Joe I just want to wish you the best of luck at your new job wherever it may be!
Thanks Matthew, appreciate your comment!
2:25 That is how a real pilot should fly their plane, all the time, even in summer
Another great video Captain Joe, i really like watching them, so many interesting topics about aviation, thumbs up! :)
Cap. if possible please explain AF447 incident in next video for better understanding.
it's common in long flights that the fuel in the wingtanks with it's high thermal capacity cools down to temperatures well below freezing. then after landing, the icy fuel will cause the surface of the wing to cool, causing condensation and ultimately icing, even in warm weather.
For what its worth propylene glycol is used as a food additive so its not toxic unless you decide to chug a gallon of it or something. It is, however, sticky and very nasty once it gets all over things so you probably wouldn't like it sliming out the interior of the plane if it gets sucked in.
its one of the most important procedures. In SKP In 1994 Fokker 100 of Palair Macedonia crashed right after the runway due to not proper deicing of the plane. The plane took off and crashed 200 meter after take off. only 1 survived in the tail of the plane
The best thing to do is apply the de-icing fluid the night before so the snow and ice will slide off if you can't hanger the aircraft. A warm hanger is the best way to prevent ice build up and keeps the aircraft dry too.
Deicing provided me with one hell of a flight experience a couple years ago. So where I live we had the worst winter on record a couple years ago. I was flying out around that time and they had to keep the plane running to keep it warm. So we were delayed getting on the flight. When we finally boarded we had to go through the deicing process twice. Once the deicing was done the pilot realized there wasn't enough fuel to get to our destination (which is crazy because I was only flying across the state and my state isn't that big) so we had to go back to the gate and refuel. We took off about the same time we were supposed to land. Yeah it was a really short flight. But still. Very frustrating morning.
Thanks for this (as always) comprehensive explanation Captain Joe ;-)
Regarding the "Upon completion of the spraying operation" section of the checklist you cover @7:14, shouldn't the DITCHING pb be set OFF instead of ON (which is its expected state anyway)?
Great video, but i have to mention that propylene glycol is NOT toxic. Disco fog is made out of PG, further is it an ingredient of many chewing gums, toothpaste and cosmetic products. Vapers use it as a basic ingredient of their vape juice.
In the 1980s, there was a scandal in Austria over anti-freeze in their wine. I read somewhere that to get rid of that year's wine production, they mixed it up with more anti-freeze and used it up over the winter at airports.
This is great video that explains a lot. My last flight I saw green fluid running of the wings during take off. I thought the plane was loosing hydraulic fluid but now I know why. Many thanks Joe
captain Joe you are amazing you have taught me many things and why I shouldn't be scared about flying thank you!!😃🛫
I know nothing about aviation but everything you said made perfect sense
Joe, since AirBerlin is going bust what do you think about all the people asking in comments about what do you think about AirBerlin going bust?
Gernuts in literally translations meaning is bankrupt or merging with Lufthansa
It was owned by Lufthansa but i predict merge
I can´t comment on that yet, but there will be a video coming out about it in the near future! Thanks for understanding! Joe
Captain Joe thanks!
Captain Joe Thank you for your answer, it helps us 350k subscribers
Ethylene glycol bad, propylene glycol is used as cough syrup base, vaping fluid, and for non toxic coolant/antifreeze. It smells funky and the same people that are irritated by vaping would be unhappy with PG in the cabin air.
Yay It always makes me happy to see Captain Joe:)
Interesting effect of accumulated rough ice on the flight surfaces increasing drag. I'd love to see papers describing this.
I met a glider pilot several years ago who discovered a curious effect that mimics the aerodynamics of a golf ball. What he did was affix duct tape in many layers to the leading edge and underside of the wing, creating a sort of step or terrace form. He discovered that it actually decreased drag and he was able to fly longer. I'm kicking myself for not remembering his name or being able to cite his paper, but it's interesting because the same effect should be roughly the same under certain icing conditions on the wing surfaces.
Of course this doesn't assume the negative effects of the high density of ice for weighing down the wings and definitely not for its effect on control surfaces or their actuation. But it was a very curious thing and this video made me think of it.
If barely ever snows where I live but when it does you’re stuck home. We have no snow plows or anything like that.
Is there a maximum speed for airlines? What’s the speed of the airlines and what’s the limit? How do airlines cope up to land at exactly even after taking off late? More about speeds on each phase of the flight
Very nicely explained.
Can you please make a video on different kinds of ice and how they are formed.
Example:
Frost, Hoar frost, Glaze ice, Rime Ice, Clear ice, Mixed ice, freezing Rain and Hail.
Minor gripe: propylene glycol is not particularly toxic, it's used in food and smoke machines. However, a load of fake smoke in the cabin wouldn't exactly inspire confidence in passengers.
Didn't know that turbo-prop airplanes had a different procedure for deice. Great video CPT
Kevin Brennan : Any plane that has propellers has another surface that can accumulate ice. Ice can also build up on the engine intakes of jet engines if the ice then breaks off it can be sucked into the engine and possibly cause damage. Piston engine craft have their own issues. Carburetors can freeze which is why fuel injection is better. Jet engines are much more reliable than piston engines.
I questioned it myself :)
Joe you are the first pilot ever who tells everything in detail.. You're the best... Man keep it going!! 👍👍💪make a video about pilot's medical and eye test
stupid question perhaps, but at 1:33 you say that the ice will "increase stall speed". My assumption would be that the increased drag and reduced lift would lower the speed at which the plane would stall thus decreasing the stall speed. What am I missing?
proplyene glycol is actually generally regarded as safe for humans. It is mainly used only for high end de-icing or for specific circumstances that require a non-toxic solution, but uses go beyond aircraft for the most part. Ethylene glycol is actually what is used for commonly, and is fairly toxic.
Great video Captain! Can't wait for the next video :)
very interesting! and well made with the pictures of written pilot-processes!
I went through a deicing pad on Tuesday and a woman asked me why does we need to get deiced so I told her the same as your saying and Air Florida flight 90 that crashed into the Potomac river as ice and snow brought down the 737 leaving only 4 passengers and 1 cabin crew member surviving the plane crash.
Very interesting video there is more too deicing than meets the eye. GREAT VIDEO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE. Captain Joe I have a question reference my son joining the Bundeswehr (Luftwaffe)to gain his commercial licence could I email you ?
Thanks Mark! If I were your son, I would do it! Their training program is outstanding!
its was my long time doubt.............. now cleared thanks Captain..... Ah Ah Sir....
Ehhm, just a question: if you start up engines of your ACFT, hydraulic pumps will be driven and control surfaces such as ailerons and elevators (and vertical stab rudder of course), who were hanging down (or to one side --> rudder) due to low hydraulic pressure, will be put in there normal position. But there could be a possiblility of damaging these control surfaces, couldn't it?
Hey Captain!
One correction, propylene glycol isn't toxic. In fact its used in many foods we eat as a flavour enhancement.
Wow, the thumbnail look awesome.
G-CJOE...clever! I love your channel! You have a very talented way of using RUclips to educate people about your profession. I hope you land happily on your feet during this company changeover. I know those mergers/acquisitions/bankruptcies can be rough on a pilot's career.
The thumbnail looks absolutely stunning!
Awesome and very detailed video....as usual...thx Captain Joe!!
Hey, so I was wondering, do airline pilots still do their own pre flight planning with altitudes airspeeds Times etc. or do airlines have their own department for that and they just brief the pilot on what the plan is
Hey Joe. I work at Vestergaard Company. We build De Ice trucks. It's great to be able to show your video to friends and family so they know why my work is important 😁
Awesome. I've driven your trucks in Toronto and Winnipeg Canada at the major airports. Love those Beta's and super Beta's
Hello Captain Joe i am not a pilot but i love planes, also love your videos i learned so much, but i have a silly question on de-icing why is it that they dont have a membrane covering the wing that is a heating element like the rear window defroster on cars. The membrane can be the thickness of tape
Thank you Captain Joe. Your videos are very informative.
Is it important to apply de-icing to protect for take off only or to protect for inflight climb and cruise? Do we care about the fluid treatment maintaining its protection duration during known icing conditions In flight?
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Very good and helpful information captain ! Thanks 👍🏼
Pleasure!
Since you did cold can you do a video about HOT weather operation? For example some smaller jets in Phoenix were grounded due to heat this summer. (120 degrees F) While bigger jets were unaffected
Yeah!
My favourite youtuber is gonna hit 1 million!
He's at a million now!
"Be wise and get rid of your ice."
Instructions unclear, I'm now blind.
It's actually so cool seeing the planes deice
Loved the video an the details. Have a fantastic week to you.
if you hate reading the descriptions of videos, this is what he said for those who couldnt hear: Dear friends and followers welcome back to my channel! Today´s video is another interesting topic regarding winter operation. Why do aeroplanes have to be deiced prior take-off? A lot of passengers underestimated how important it is to deice the critical surface of the aeroplane, such as the wings, flight control surfaces such as ailerons, slat and flaps rudders, vertical and horizontal stabilizer.
On the ground, when there are freezing conditions and precipitation, de-icing an aircraft is crucial. A lot of passengers underestimated how important it is to deice as frozen contaminants cause critical control surfaces to be rough and uneven, disrupting smooth air flow and greatly degrading the ability of the wing to generate lift, and increasing drag.
If larger pieces of ice separate when the aircraft is performing a take-off run, they can be ingested into engines intakes or hit propellers and cause catastrophic failure.
Frozen contaminants can lock or jam control surfaces, preventing them from moving properly.
But there is a major difference between De-icing and Anti-Icing an aircraft.
De-icing is defined as removal of snow, ice or frost from a surface. Anti-icing is understood to be the application of chemicals that not only de-ice, but also remain on a surface and continue to delay the reformation of ice for a certain period of time, better known as the hold-over time (HOT), or prevent adhesion of ice to make mechanical removal easier.
I´ll shortly mention the aerodynamic characteristics, regarding airplane stall speeds, in case an airplane wing is covered with thin ice.
DEFINITION OF A STALL:
Stalls in fixed-wing flight are often experienced as a sudden reduction in lift as the pilot increases the wing's angle of attack and exceeds its critical angle of attack (which may be due to slowing down below stall speed in level flight). A stall does not mean that the engine(s) have stopped working, or that the aircraft has stopped moving - the effect is the same even in an unpowered glider aircraft.
I hope you enjoy this video! And I would also like to thank @photoaleksi (Instagram) for the outstanding thumbnail picture. And all others helping with their videos and support!
Thanks for watching, all the best your "Captain" Joe
Your explanation is very precise! Keep up the good work
Following you since a good 6-8 months and love your videos man !
You're doing a great job and your videos are very interesting 🤗
Captain Joe, where are commercial Jets parked at the end of the day after the final flight ? Do they stay at the terminal are they sent to a hanger ?
This is a really cool channel you give a lot of good information about flying that makes traveling on a plane more fun for me
its awesome that you use b-roll video to better describe the task that you describe
Keep up the good work Captain !🚁💨👍
Joe, another good video. You brought up the Static Port. Could you do a video on explaining its purpose? Yes, I know, I could look it up, but I enjoy your real world explanations.
The static port is worth a whole video, for sure! I´ll see what I can do!
I never flew to the USA as Pilot , and my question here . Why sqwak is should be set C before taxi outbound and inbound in the US?
Hi, I'm a 15 yr old that's interested in becoming a pilot but I have pretty bad vision, about 3.5 diopters is it possible for me to fly for an airline? Thank you
Propilen glycol isn´t toxic. Ethylen glycol is. Both can be used as anti-freeze. That's why propilen glycol is used on food industry machines rather than the most common ethyl glycol widch is used on auto engines.