The anger and apathy behind the Stoke byelection | Anywhere but Westminster

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @olliewarren1993
    @olliewarren1993 7 лет назад +251

    These are the best political videos around! No grand narratives, no flashy sound bites, just real people expressing their views

    • @guest_informant
      @guest_informant 7 лет назад +6

      I Was just about to post the same.

    • @BrightBlackBanana
      @BrightBlackBanana 7 лет назад +9

      OIlie Warren Absolutely agree.

    • @Ulrna
      @Ulrna 7 лет назад +1

      the Guardian is still advocating for the "cheap foreign labour" narrative. Bu at least there will be Brexit.

    • @DFandV
      @DFandV 7 лет назад +1

      More of these... The people!

  • @joebirnie4162
    @joebirnie4162 7 лет назад +35

    The London labour party has no clue what's happening in the north of England and have shown themselves up here

  • @lendmeyourfears4428
    @lendmeyourfears4428 7 лет назад +63

    I love these pieces because they offer a real insight into real people. No studios, no makeup, just conversations that I think offer the best angle on the current state of play. Hats off.

    • @bilbobaggins8171
      @bilbobaggins8171 7 лет назад

      Do you honestly think the Guardian don't have an agenda in mind when editing these videos???
      Come on. They are trying to paint UKIP out to be a protest party.
      The fact is that UKIP will take over from Labour in the North of England and Wales at the next GE.

    • @SI-cd7xs
      @SI-cd7xs 7 лет назад +4

      Of course they do but for The Guardian it's pretty nuetral, far better than what you'll see on the bbc.

    • @lendmeyourfears4428
      @lendmeyourfears4428 7 лет назад

      bilbo baggins my point is really that regardless of the agenda that the guardian clearly has they are honey about it and frame their videos this way.

    • @hipmotion
      @hipmotion 7 лет назад +2

      UKIP isnt a protest party? their ultimate purpose was Brexit, which they have achieved. I personally can't wait to see them fade into irrelevance. They're an absolute joke of a party.

    • @hipmotion
      @hipmotion 7 лет назад

      inb4 u pigeon hole me - i have no time for labour either

  • @jimbeam5891
    @jimbeam5891 7 лет назад +25

    There is a noticeable difference between older residents and younger ones in places like Stoke. The older residents have a sense of dignity and self-worth that is sorely lacking in the younger ones, and it's not just a result of the wisdom that age brings.

    • @milels6917
      @milels6917 5 лет назад +1

      I was a stoke girl people were hard working but then it was a industrial city lots of jobs in the mines pottery factories what have the young got now so sad to see this it is a dreadful place older people have dignity Stoke on Trent was called the Holy city on the water Wish we could make it great again so so sad 😥

    • @chilldude30
      @chilldude30 3 года назад +5

      Probably because they grew up with a life to be proud of, in a town they were proud of. Now that's been taken away by things outside of their control.

  • @RN-ot9tw
    @RN-ot9tw 7 лет назад +47

    huge fan of John and these videos. Great journalism

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. 7 лет назад +20

    It's really sad when city looks like set for post-apo movie :/

  • @anghinetti
    @anghinetti 7 лет назад +16

    Those who don't vote shouldn't complain about anything.

    • @wasthatyou9387
      @wasthatyou9387 5 лет назад +4

      It's called 'Apathy''. It's what happens when you have voted for years, but whosoever you vote for, has only *their* agendas, and quickly forget who voted them in, in the first place. Things never change in places like Stoke on Trent.

  • @fattypark
    @fattypark 5 лет назад +6

    I'm very late to videos in this series, though the fundamentals haven't changed. The scenes depicted in this one in particular are so sad. It's terrible that people feel deprived of influence. Many people might laugh, look down their noses or just feel glad they don't live in some of the areas shown, but ultimately these places are in our country (assuming you're British), and politicians have a collective responsibility to improve the lot of the populace, particularly in areas like this. Some of the deprivation in the UK is shocking for an advanced western economy.

  • @Wickerrman
    @Wickerrman 7 лет назад +5

    Fantastic video, really shows life outside London in the forgotten areas of politics.

  • @MrBeny
    @MrBeny 7 лет назад +26

    "This community needs change" - Labour, who have been in power for 60+ years. Lol.

  • @Shadowrunftwpete
    @Shadowrunftwpete 7 лет назад +17

    67 years under Labour control and this is the result. People of Stoke deserve better.

    • @TheHexicle
      @TheHexicle 6 лет назад

      KPOPFANBOYUK Well, don't be too harsh.

  • @stokiedave7771
    @stokiedave7771 5 лет назад +3

    Someone shot a zombie film in Hanley stoke and they didn’t even need to change the area. It was the perfect look for a post apocalypse zombie film.

    • @adrianheeks
      @adrianheeks 2 года назад

      The film was "The Girl with All the Gifts" 2015. Shot in the old bus station before it was demolished.

  • @dianabriggs1512
    @dianabriggs1512 6 лет назад +6

    I didn't vote. I'm from Stoke & I couldn't be bothered. I've voted since I was 18, now 37 years. Think it's a waste of time. It hasn't bettered my life or now my son's. We seem to be living the same hardships in childhood.

  • @dantaylor7344
    @dantaylor7344 7 лет назад +11

    A journalist getting on a BUS! Do you see the Mirror, Times, Telegraph, Express, Sun reporters doing that? Not fucking likely! Fair play Mr Harris

    • @Philiptanzer
      @Philiptanzer 7 лет назад

      He went on the bus the same way someone gets in a jeep for a safari..

  • @GarethWareth
    @GarethWareth 7 лет назад +4

    No Gareth Snell. You need to focus on the worst parts of Stoke.

  • @692mhw
    @692mhw 7 лет назад +18

    Great honesty for a change. Gareth Snell looks like a bloated middle class potato. Stoke is crumbling and Labours only idea is more identity politics and zero real solutions.

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 5 лет назад

      Absolutely LOVE that description of Gareth Snell 😂

    • @baders087
      @baders087 5 лет назад +1

      He’s gone now

    • @32446
      @32446 4 года назад

      Lol. He looks useless

  • @mickeyhynes
    @mickeyhynes 7 лет назад +8

    More of these videos please.

  • @thisstillchangesnothing
    @thisstillchangesnothing 7 лет назад +4

    OMG What a bloody nightmare this country has become ((

  • @Masterlydapper
    @Masterlydapper 7 лет назад +12

    did she really try to say that trident costs us £600bn?

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 7 лет назад +3

      CrispyChips wrong figure, point remains

    • @Masterlydapper
      @Masterlydapper 7 лет назад +2

      serjthereturn with public spending of defence at £45bn, the point doesn't stand

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 7 лет назад +3

      yes it does. If we didn't spend so much money on wars, arms and nuclear weapons, we could invest it in more positive things

    • @Masterlydapper
      @Masterlydapper 7 лет назад +2

      serjthereturn Defence is vital to the British Isles, and any way with Defence ranked 7th in public spending isn't there anywhere else the money could come from? and what is more positive?

    • @thijsjong
      @thijsjong 7 лет назад +3

      That sounds like a figure she picked up somewhere. Milion instead of bilon. guess it is the cost to keep trident submarines operational for one year. Haven't looked it up. Could also be the price of building one sub. Point is its expensive.

  • @mmengraveprint4747
    @mmengraveprint4747 7 лет назад +7

    If you want to have a protest vote don't vote UKIP. Vote for The Incredible Flying Brick. That really would send shockwaves around the world of politics.

  • @keitumetsem1344
    @keitumetsem1344 7 лет назад +4

    great work from the journo

  • @alexander92179
    @alexander92179 3 года назад

    The Anywhere but Westminster series are the main thing holding the Guardian up.

  • @ggggg-h9s
    @ggggg-h9s 7 лет назад +3

    Sadly Labour lost the plot..

  • @ggggg-h9s
    @ggggg-h9s 7 лет назад +1

    Labour Tory Labour Tory Labour fucking Tory.... Sick of it....

  • @Nick-wl8jx
    @Nick-wl8jx 7 лет назад +8

    "this community deserves change", so vote for the same party that has served the constituency since it was created? Some 'change'...

  • @DHANANJAYKUMAR-jw5bd
    @DHANANJAYKUMAR-jw5bd 7 лет назад +1

    KEEP HIM OUT - dis is wat democracy looks like

  • @greygamervideo
    @greygamervideo 7 лет назад +2

    There will be more and more constituencies where fewer than 50% bother to vote.

  • @edwardwilliamson1
    @edwardwilliamson1 7 лет назад +1

    These Labour activists are wasting their time. I doubt these people are registered.

  • @daveysgb
    @daveysgb 7 лет назад +1

    If the cameraman had turned 360 at most of the locations they filmed in, you would have seen some of the great regeneration work that has been going on around the city for the last 10-15 years. All of the areas they filmed in are also due for regeneration, which is why they are becoming run down. Shame you couldn't give a more holistic view of the city.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 5 лет назад +3

      I'm just being a pedant here, but turning 360° would end up facing the same way. 180° is behind

  • @susieenglish302
    @susieenglish302 3 года назад +1

    I lived in Stoke for 4 years in the late 90's and the Asian community was so ambitious, they were all going to be professionals. The white community had started to give up - decades of poor education, housing and lack of ambition were generations old and it looks like its not got any better

  • @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO
    @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO 7 лет назад +3

    These people shouldn't be allowed to vote

  • @DCI-Frank-Burnside
    @DCI-Frank-Burnside 7 лет назад +1

    I represent The People's Anagramic Party for Changing 'Stoke' to 'Eskot'. As you might have guessed we are a single issue party. Change now!

  • @Game7Mode
    @Game7Mode 7 лет назад +1

    Living far away in BC, this picture of English provincial life is saddening.

    • @rockguitar2012
      @rockguitar2012 7 лет назад +1

      David Cooper I've lived in Stoke all my life and one thing that really frustrates me about reports like this is that they focus on some of the most run-down parts of the city. There are so many great parts of Stoke, full of culture and life and community, but the media always seem to show the odd shitty little alleyways and closed shops instead. This causes a bigger problem - it makes it harder to get people to invest in Stoke, slows regeneration etc. So I think this negative portrayal is exaggerated and really harmful. Stoke isn't this bad I promise!

    • @Game7Mode
      @Game7Mode 7 лет назад

      rockguitar2012 I agree. It would be better to consciously visit various neighborhoods of varying economic status to get a more complete picture of the political mood of a city.

  • @pfountaine6214
    @pfountaine6214 3 года назад

    Compulsory viewing for all labour party members and MPs. brilliant Journalism.

  • @radiojet1429
    @radiojet1429 7 лет назад +1

    Very informative video. Thanks.

  • @jtraining295
    @jtraining295 7 лет назад +3

    man stoke looks bleek

    • @rogermoore-gd9do
      @rogermoore-gd9do 2 месяца назад

      You did not see 99% of the city centre, whole video was to make you think that way.

  • @Ukipmiddleleft
    @Ukipmiddleleft 6 лет назад +1

    Labour have never done anything for Stoke on Trent and the only reason they stay in power is because many people know that the only other alternative is Conservatives who are literally destroying people's lives with ill conceited benefit policies that undermine working people here. Many people are working on the Black Market and which is why crime figures are rocketing at a time when Tories have drastically reduced Police numbers. UKIP had an excellent opportunity to reassure disfranchised voters and failed to capitalise. Steven Woolfe should have been parachuted into this contest he would have put his points across with relation to his own background and experiences. He left UKIP as UKIP had simply lost their way

  • @Philiptanzer
    @Philiptanzer 7 лет назад

    Shouldn't he have taken 1 Labour, 1 Conservative and 1 UKIP activist to visit that guy?

    • @mrpotatohead6264
      @mrpotatohead6264 3 года назад

      That's the guardian for you, cheerleaders of Labour

  • @goldfingerhardcore
    @goldfingerhardcore 7 лет назад +3

    Very interest analysis and definitely a case study for disconnection of current democracy and party system from common people as well as severe lack of education. People are voting on xenophobes, economical neoliberal scums thinking they will be listened. Absolutely sad, but there is also a lot to blame on the Workers Party.

  • @waltjacob3776
    @waltjacob3776 3 года назад +1

    Who are you gonna vote for, the EU 😲
    It’s grim up north.

  • @bilbobaggins8171
    @bilbobaggins8171 7 лет назад +3

    The guy who just got out of prison and lives in a council flat has the most disgusting sense of entitlement I've ever seen:
    "They need to build better housing for us"
    "They need to entertain us with Youth Clubs"
    "They need to stop arresting us when we break the law"
    What a terribly weak minded young man, although he's right about one thing .... Labour are finished.

    • @SI-cd7xs
      @SI-cd7xs 7 лет назад +1

      what do you expect, the left has been winning votes by promising free shit for longer than he's been alive.

  • @SM-pr1qt
    @SM-pr1qt 6 лет назад +2

    ‘Big part of the heritage is still there’ - zooms in on chav!!! 🤣🤣

  • @ypure3859
    @ypure3859 5 лет назад +1

    UK IS SO BLOODY SAD!!!!

  • @sjw101thepoliticalgamer8
    @sjw101thepoliticalgamer8 7 лет назад

    This was excellent. The real story is one of disenfrancisment of large parts of the population due to mass unemployment and poverty.

  • @jcisking9622
    @jcisking9622 7 лет назад

    what are YOU going to do for your country?

  • @Adam-jx2il
    @Adam-jx2il 7 лет назад

    Superb report. PLP take note

  • @tech9auto223
    @tech9auto223 3 года назад

    I don't vote and most of the people I know don't I think people are to busy trying to survive and they know no matter what nothing is going to change so what's the point

  • @oliversmith4130
    @oliversmith4130 4 года назад +1

    The guardian are the problem

    • @deadsam8433
      @deadsam8433 3 года назад

      The Guardian are the reason for unemployment and electoral political apathy in Stoke...?

  • @philipe1502
    @philipe1502 7 лет назад +2

    4:22 finally some decent thinking in these videos

  • @hismail9654
    @hismail9654 7 лет назад +2

    The guy in the end can't even string a sentence together, and wooow what's with the swearing in the end?

    • @Gkwill1
      @Gkwill1 7 лет назад +2

      Lalalaland Lalalaland expressing his views you clown

    • @miyasusan2886
      @miyasusan2886 6 лет назад

      Lalalaland Lalalaland that’s just stoke

  • @bainzy9627
    @bainzy9627 3 года назад

    9:35 Where did she gett the £600 billion price tag for trident?

    • @mattheww1391
      @mattheww1391 3 года назад

      I think she said million but the subtitles said billion

  • @paulwarren6105
    @paulwarren6105 5 лет назад

    You get 💩 💩 done by bustin a move in the correct direction... With shops and factories gone - There's still workers needed in the service industries - nurses - all building trades operatives and drivers in general..

  • @anthonyc3212
    @anthonyc3212 6 лет назад

    Lol i know that lad singin under the bridge

  • @spooked7952
    @spooked7952 4 года назад +1

    Look at those green scruffs at 0:17.
    Who'd vote for that?

    • @PenisMcWhirtar
      @PenisMcWhirtar 4 года назад +1

      Dunno mate, but 0:13 - I'd have turned to face her for a _real_ kiss!
      👁 👁
      👄 wot a lovely lady!!!

  • @ThroatSore
    @ThroatSore 7 лет назад +1

    You missed the scout hut 200 yards from there. The new development over your shoulder on the bridge. The small businesses on the road under that bridge, the park with the bowls club 30 meters from that estate. Stoke has some real problems. Big problems. its good ypu report them, but Stoke is great too.

  • @oliversmith4130
    @oliversmith4130 4 года назад

    8:35 all big and tough but he has no self esteem, tragic

  • @gvolpe1311
    @gvolpe1311 7 лет назад +4

    great video
    the labour activist did brilliant
    and the young man displayed some political knowledge
    I wish Gareth would dump the Mac
    and I hope honestly he support JC.

    • @quietusq489
      @quietusq489 7 лет назад +1

      Good on them for going over there and trying to engage with the estate. But the £600billion figure she used for Trident had me cringing. That's 12 times our annual military budget xD.

    • @gvolpe1311
      @gvolpe1311 7 лет назад

      Quietus Q
      yeah she misspoke!
      250 billion as published in guardian.
      to keep us safe from the Chinese, who have won the contract to build our nuclear power station.
      no conflict of interest or safety!

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 7 месяцев назад

    Didn’t want Corbyn that would have helped instead they are happy to have Starmer 🤣🤣

  • @maniman3335
    @maniman3335 3 года назад

    Look how dead it is shameless

  • @bobsthea
    @bobsthea 5 лет назад

    politics is good for politician and their supporter, not for hardworking citizens

  • @ThroatSore
    @ThroatSore 7 лет назад

    Good to get activists into the estates thougj.

  • @thornbird6768
    @thornbird6768 5 лет назад +2

    Labour keeps people on benefits by giving them a pay rise every time they get in ! Stoke on Trent case in point !

  • @glasgowblueboxingfan411
    @glasgowblueboxingfan411 7 лет назад +1

    The reporter clearly tried to get the guy at the end to vote labour. I prefer reporters to remain neutral.

  • @aviewtoill
    @aviewtoill 6 лет назад

    All political parties say what the people want to hear when election day is near. After, it's a different story.

  • @buriedcoins
    @buriedcoins 7 лет назад

    ..Ted Maul reports...

  • @delroywashington3185
    @delroywashington3185 6 лет назад

    Wot you want for stoke the guy der

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 7 месяцев назад

    So he voted Tory 😂😂

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 7 месяцев назад

    Tories closed the youth centres .

  • @ZygimantasA
    @ZygimantasA 5 лет назад +1

    Labour party have been in power for lengthy periods during the last 70 years in post-war UK. What have they done for the working class? Ask yourselves that.

  • @steveroberts9453
    @steveroberts9453 7 лет назад +1

    Nuttall was a nutjob, but don't expect anything at all from Snell. At least the Monster Raving Loony bloke would have
    abolished gravity and the compulsary serving of asparagus.

  • @Ulrna
    @Ulrna 7 лет назад

    Jehovah's witness or labour party acolytes, impossible to tell the difference.

  • @jacobbooky251
    @jacobbooky251 3 года назад

    Go in Kanan

  • @beadyanglo8505
    @beadyanglo8505 7 лет назад

    Labour are out of touch, which is why people in their constituencies believe voting is pointless. Labour are too busy spending time and money on changes that won't help, or harm the working class. Most people couldn't care less about social justice, fairer courts, gender equality, the supposed pay gap, or any of the other rubbish that Labour politicians feverishly pursue.

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 7 лет назад

      They are not out of touch, they just think that the working classes should not exist. they would prefer we went away or we uneducated factory workers working hard and then going back to the slums.

  • @TheDevilday666
    @TheDevilday666 7 лет назад +2

    Bias much?

    • @rt0935
      @rt0935 3 года назад

      Stupidity much?

  • @owack6
    @owack6 7 лет назад +18

    Labour in 2017? lol

  • @thebritishpatriot1707
    @thebritishpatriot1707 7 лет назад +6

    VOTE UKIP

  • @rhi6798
    @rhi6798 7 лет назад

    all this media and effort towards the Stoke byelection but nothing on the Copeland byelection

  • @akaski777
    @akaski777 5 лет назад

    Should imagine things have improved since this video was made . ??? I’m sure UKIP and the Tory’s have improved things !!!!

  • @john111257
    @john111257 6 лет назад

    Y BOTHER..STOKE IS DEAD

  • @martinburke362
    @martinburke362 3 года назад

    POLITICS AND THE ECONOMY ARE BOTH TOTALLY LOADED TOWARDS LONDON AND THE SOUTH EAST THIS SUITS THE ESTABLISHMENT JUST FINE!! DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR NOTHING WILL ALTER ITS A MATTER OF ECONOMICS THE CLOSER THE MONEY IS TO THE CENTRE THE SAFER IT IS TO THOSE WHO OWN IT!! SORRY NORTH OF ENGLAND BUT YOUR NOT IT AND NEVER WILL BE TRAGIC BUT TRUE!!!

  • @louisbanaszak3125
    @louisbanaszak3125 5 лет назад

    vote brexit only please