Doctor Who 1x6 Reaction!! "Dalek"
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- My first time watching series 1 episode 6 of Doctor Who - Dalek
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Best episode yet? I loved the inclusion of the Dalek and the backstory. It’s clear this was an important fixture of classic who and I thought this was a great way to both include the past iteration of the show while continuing to move forward.
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Original Series: Doctor Who (2005)
"You would make a good Dalek" gives me chills every time I hear it. The Dalek didn't scream that line like it normally would. It said it quietly. It didn't say that to mock The Doctor. He said it because he respected him.
100% such a great and heartbreaking line
it was a compliment and that why it hurts the doctor so much
Daleks are *the* classic Who villain! This is definitely one of my favorite season 1 episodes. Such great acting from Christopher Eccleston!
Yes! I may not have known at the start, but this episode really did a great job of introducing them and really making you feel the history. I was really laughing hard when I went to edit my intro 🤣
@@CasualNerdReactions And the second most iconic villains are the Cybermen, which is what the silver robotic head is at the start of the episode. So, lots of references to the classic series so far. The Autons in episode 1 were classic villains too.
I was going to say this, beyond being the most Iconic enemy in the entire franchise (before someone suggests certain other ones, which ones are visually used most in iconography for Doctor Who) they were the very first monstor in Doctor Who; the enemies of An Unearthly Child (the very first story from classic who) were cavemen, or arguably the Doctor himself, but the Daleks were the second story, cementing them as the first actual monstor in the franchise.
Doctor who wouldn’t have made it this far without them, introducing them causes ratings to SKYROCKET and the show exploded with popularity.
literally from Episode one 1963 edit: no episode 5, there apparently was a run right before everyone skips because nobody saw them after the Kennedy assassination
The TARDIS doesn’t always take the Doctor where he wants to go, but it always takes him where he’s needed.
My headcannon is the TARDIS knows the Doctor wants excitement and needs to help people, so "she" takes him to those situations despite what he inputs.
@@Kayjee17 it's canon
@@Kayjee17 That's not a headcanon, it's explicitly stated later in the show.
Its not headcanon, the TARDIS itself told him that. Literally told him that. Theres an episode where the TARDIS conciousness is put into a human body and so she and the doctor actually have a chance to talk to each other for the first time.
My favorite 9 episode.
"You would make a good Dalek" - To the Dalek it is a sign of respect, but to the Doctor it's the ultimate insult and shows him the dark path he's on. Eccleston's face sells how it hits him so well.
The reaction fo Classic Who fans to this one was GREAT. Daleks always send a shiver down our spine. They form some of our earliest childhood memories, and they were done justice here
Especially when the weapons pod span round independently to the main body. Daleks we’re never able to do this before. Sent a chill down my spine as often people got behind them to avoid the gun.
One of my top 5 WHO episodes of all time. The level of darkness here, and it isn't cringey or insincere in the slightest. "I watched it happen. I MADE it happen!" "YOU. WOULD. MAKE. A GOOD. DALEK." I could go on but I'd need to quote half the damn transcript. I adore that a script this good happened so early in the show's history.
The shape of the Dalek skirt (built around a child's tricycle to allow the operator to move about smoothly, even though they could hardly see where they were going) and the ridiculous plunger are consequences of the all but nonexistent budget allocated for the very first season of Doctor Who (back in 1963), in the same way that the police phone box was originally borrowed from the props of "Dixon of Dock Green" (a long running police procedural show at the time) and only intended to be used for a few episodes.
That scene where he confronts the Dalek... Absolutely incredible from Eccleston. That scene is why he's my favorite Dr.
I just wish being on the show had been a better experience for him... he was at my local comic con last year and he definately still had some resentment towards the showrunners... but I love Christopher Eccleston... not just as the Doctor... the first thing I ever saw him in was Gone in 60 Seconds as the bad guy... He was so good playing the bad guy... loved him in Thor: The Dark World too. He's a *fantastic* actor.
Oh my God. I never realized the soundtrack was made using the alien instrument shown in the episode.
Obviously it’s just a synthesizer, but that’s such a cool touch that I’ve NEVER noticed before! And I’ve seen this episode one bajillion times
I hear you .... well, technically I didn't but yup, first time ever after a zillion rewatches! Dear me.
The Daleks made Doctor Who. The 2nd storyline of the first season introduced them and it was this set of early, early episodes that made Doctor Who a hit.
After the extremely unlucky choice of date for the very first episode (the same day as the JFK assassination, one of the Easter eggs from the first episode of NuWho).
@@trevorgoddard2278incorrect Kennedy was assassinated on Friday 22 November 1963. The first episode of Dr Who: An Unearthly Child was shown Saturday 23 November 1963.
@@kimothy1701 OK so I missed by about a day, but when you consider most people at the time got their news from newspapers, the television was mainly for entertainment and even big news stories didn't interrupt other programs, most British people didn't find out until that Saturday morning so all the adults who were in control of the one television in their house were watching and/or discussing the news on that Saturday evening.
@@trevorgoddard2278 TARDISes miss by far worse! You're in excellent company! 👍👍
Just a tiny bit of history about the Daleks, they used to be a humanoide species called the Kaled on a planet called Skaro, a man called Davros created the Daleks out of his race to continue to survive.
Such a good episode! The Daleks are classic villains that have been terrifying fans since 1963. However, their one weakness then was that they couldn't go up stairs (being played by guys in costumes on wheels). So the scene when they come to the stairs and the Dalek is able to EL-E-VATE up them was shocking at the time.
It should be noted that this is not the first time they flew, or even the second (the first one was poorly filmed to the point that few understood what actually happened).
Only the most hardcore fans were watching the show by then, so this episode shows the general public why even one Dalek terrifies the Doctor so badly.
I didn't catch the title the first time I watched this episode, but as soon as I heard that voice I felt chills run down my spine, that's how great an episode this is. I was a kid and my dad was in the Air Force, and in '75 to '77 we were at a base in England, so that was how I was introduced to Doctor Who. I got to see the fourth Doctor, played by Tom Baker, in an episode called Genesis of the Daleks - about how they were created - and it was impressive enough that I still remember a lot of it today. The Daleks and their creator are high on my list of favorite Doctor Who villains.
That moment and what you felt is all the proof you need they did this right.
The first true classic of the NuWho era. At this point in time during the run, some older fans were a bit concerned, but this episode pretty much blew everyone away. This did an amazing job of introducing new audiences to the Dalek race (and the threat they represent), and gave older fans something to latch on to and enjoy. Excellent stuff. So glad you enjoyed it. Onwards!
As a classic WHO fan, this was a great re-introduction to the Dalek(s). It absolutely needed to show you just how dangerous a Dalek can be - 1 single Dalek killed 300 people, and could have kept going without any real resistance. Just imagine a whole army of them. They appeared in 19 out of 158 original Doctor Who storylines - the most recurring "monster" - and it's very fair to say that the Daleks are one of the biggest reasons that Doctor Who made it beyond its first season. (They appeared right back in the first season!)
This story also made us older fans question the Doctor, which was good. We absolutely understood how he was behaving, but also could appreciate Rose's new perspective. It's a stand out story in the history of the new era.
Corey Johnson,who plays Henry van Statten, was also the the 1999 Mummy movie and in Hellboy.
The first good look that we get into The Doctor's trauma surrounding the Time War. In my opinion, this is the episode. If you weren't a fan of the show after this one, you weren't going to be a fan. Even all these seasons later, this is in my top 3 Dalek episodes.
This was a great episode. I think Rose and the Doctor make a great team. Each show has been really enjoyable. It was crazy that the Dalek wiped out so many people and I was surprised to see a living being inside. More adventures to come and I'm here for it.
Yea, I had assumed it was a sentient machine or something, but after studying the Dalek's history a bit they're quite interesting!
@@CasualNerdReactions In the days of my youth - so so long ago - there was a comic strip series based on the Daleks alone called The Dalek Chronicles. Dalekmania was a phenomenon that occurred in the mid-60s and there were two films produced by Milton Subotsky starring Peter Cushing which were based on the two most popular television serials.
The original television series' actor, William Hartnell, suffered from arteriosclerosis and had to retire from the role in 1966, the year of the second film. This led to the invention of regeneration of the central character in order to keep the series going. The second incarnation was played quite differently by Patrick Troughton.
Yes, apparently it's rumoured that they might have been invented by some mad scientist or sornething, but no one knows for sure, or even if so what may actually have happened to him if the rumours are to be believe.
The online chatter leading up to the return of the show was that they may not have been able to get the rights to the Daleks. So when they were able to work it out with Terry Nation's estate there was a lot of relief.
“It feels like we’re just getting started”
Oh, you have no idea how correct that statement is
"Is the Dalek a classic Who villain?"
Thanx, you brought a smile to my face with that one.
Best. Mike.
Update: Daleks are THE classic Who villain. 😅
You’re correct the first five episodes are like an extended pilot. Everything from here on out is the thick of it.
about the Doctor personality, his personality is determined by the previous version of himself's interactions and experiences... he just went through killing all his people just to stop the DALEKS, he is angry and bitter... it is the care and compassion of Rose that will change him for the better (next Doctor)
Whether the next Doctor is a change for the better is, of course, subjective.
@@HuntingViolets True... I was mostly referring to him start his healing from the version of him you see in this episode
The Daleks are The Doctor’s OLDEST enemy, debuting in Doctor Who’s second serial way back in December 1963! They’ve been a thorn in his side since the VERY BEGINNING!💙💙🔷
I've watched Doctor Who since the early 80's and if anyone had ever told me that I would one day weep for a Dalek I would have proclaimed them mad and chucked them into the Death Zone for heresy. But that's what I love about the show. It has a heart. Well two of them not to put too fine a point on it.
Daleks first appeared in the episode "The Dead Planet" in December 1963. This was the first Dr Who story that was set on a planet other than earth. They were the first extraterrestrial villains in the Dr Who universe, and have been re-appearing frequently ever since so they have a 60 year history. They were a fabulous idea and invention, and were the cause of the original TV show taking off in the ratings, and with an obviously enduring appeal. The poor guys who piloted the original daleks, sat on basically a little seat pedalling about on a tricylce inside not much more than a cardboard shell. The eye stalk, the hand/grip and the ray gun were all operated by hand from within.
THANK YOU!!
I'm still so thrilled you're reacting to Dr. Who, it makes me happy to set aside time to watch with you. I'm also happy you were able to sense the depth of history between the two races. Daleks were one of the most famous 'classic' Who villains - despite the fact that for years even fans found it hilarious to be scared of huge pepper-pots that (back in the day) apparently couldn't climb stairs, classic Who fans had a moment of nostalgic terror when *this* Dalek levitated to chase Rose up the stairwell!
This was a wonderful introduction for new fans, as evidenced by your reaction - the abhorrence it showed when it had feelings, did an excellent job of explaining the nature of them though new fans haven't yet established the depth of horror the Dr. will have felt when it told him he 'would make a good Dalek'.
Thanks again Chris, this made my morning.
I love how the Doctor was like "Release me if you want to live" and then he has no idea how to defeat the Dalek. Funny how often that happens.
This is one of the best episodes of New Who, IMO.
The Daleks are the oldest of the classic Who villians, appearing in the second ever Doctor Who story back in the 60's (the classic series tended to tell self contained stories, made up of 4-6 25min episodes).
The Doctor had numerous recurring villians, but only two "Arch" enemies - the Daleks were one of them.
@@MatthewCYN15
I wasn't sure they count as "Arch" enemies, but I agree there is justification for it, so let's go with three then 🙂.
"Oh, Rose. They're all dead." I don't know why, but something about that line and Eccleston's delivery always gives me chills.
The man who Voices the Daleks in nuwho is Nicholas Briggs he also does voices for multiple creatures in this show
The Daleks were classic villains from the original series back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. So to people familiar with that the title of the episode said "Oh shit".
You can see a lifesize Dalek at the Doctor Who store (Who North America) in Camby, Indiana, just outside Indianapolis.
I can still feel my reaction to the Dalek when Rose touched it. They scared me so much when I was a kid, that voice, and the plunger lol. I wasn't a bright kid. Guess all that's missing if you didn't see the originals, but I'm glad you still enjoyed the episode. Torturing with no reason is never good.
“I like her spirit its a shame she has to die” - tbf thats a fairly accurate expectation to have in earlier revived doc who xD
i wish i could experience this saga for the first time again ... have fun it gets better and better
I grew up with Classic Who. There is nothing more terrifying than a Dalek when you have been terrorized by them since childhood. I once jumped out of my skin as the result of being in a store when some random person’s ringtone went off and it was a Dalek voice shouting “EXTERMINATE”.
For a brief irrational moment I thought everyone in the shop was going to die. They are the stuff of nightmares and yet always guaranteed to get me to want to watch an episode
Yes, this is a very good episode.
SUCH A GOOD EPISODE
Every Doctor so far has had an encounter with a Dalek.
DW is my favourite show! I absolutely love your reactions! Your reaction to the daleks was perfect and im so happy you are loving Doctor Who as much as i do! I cant wait for you to react to it. There is sooooooo much more to come. Also a little fun fact is that doctor who turns 60 this month!
I used to be scared shitless when the Daleks came on the telly. I was 52 at the time.
I love this episode SO MUCH - just stands the test of time
The easter egg in the basement - the metal head shaped thing - was the head of a Cyberman... Doctor Who's 2nd most recurring monster. Ever heard of the Borg from Star Trek? You can thank Doctor Who's Cybermen... They are my fave monster... much scarier than Daleks.
This story is actually based on an amazing audio story called „Jubilee“ by the same writer. It’s a great audio, same story but different and with lots more gore and fun. 😂
Love that he took a story of his from a different medium and tied it so seamlessly into the Whoniverse and made it accessible for all ages. Pretty cool!
@@CasualNerdReactions The original audio contains one of my fave Doctors, and my all time fave companion
@@CasualNerdReactions There are a lot of _Doctor Who_ radio/audio episodes; they are still making them, and previous Doctors do new adventures from their eras on them. It does make sense that we wouldn't have seen everything that happened.
Big Finish Rocks!
The Dalek’s eyestalk in his episode was designed to be in Billie Piper’s eye-line.
Glad you loved this episode, Chris. Hopefully, as you progress with each NuWho season, and are introduced to returning classic villains in new episodes (which you will be), it might make you decide to start reacting to the classic Who run (all 26 seasons), after you’ve caught up with NuWho! Or maybe integrate a classic Who episode somewhere in your weekly schedule?
If you do, it will at first come as a shock to you as to how bad the effects were at the time (which can be excused with the lack of budget and lack of time the production team were given), though VFX improved each decade, but I would say the majority of Americans who got into Who back in the mid 70’s onwards (when it was shown on PBS), loved it more for the stories than anything else. Classic Who could have anywhere from 1 (only once), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 or 12 episodes long to complete a story, and whilst some of the longer stories (7 episodes and above) were sometimes padded out because the production team had to fill 40 episodes each season (back in the 60’s) especially as some stories got dropped because they weren’t working out during the scripting stage, and therefore other stories had to be extended to fill those now missing weekly slots.
From the start of 1970 onwards, the majority of Who stories were between 4 and 6 episodes long. Even then there were some 4 part stories that could have lost an episode (as could the odd 6 parter), but whatever their length, classic Who allowed the writers more time to develop characters and motivations in 4 x 25 minute episodes (or 6 x 25 minute episodes) than NuWho does now, because everything has to be wrapped up in 50 minutes, when sometimes in NuWho you think that with a bit more transmission time, a 50 minute episode could have been so much better.
I could tell you a lot about how this effects later events...
But as a future character says: "Spoilers." 😉🤣
Good ups.
3rd Doctor is my overall fave, with 4th and the upcoming for you 10th being tied for second. 9th is probably my fourth fave. Chris had a tough hill to climb in making new Who accessible while still continuing a character with hundreds of episodes of backstory.
My top four Doctors as well!
The Daleks were introduced in the second ever Doctor Who story and they are the most iconic monster from the entire thing, definitely the Doctor’s arch nemesis. They were originally based on the Nazis, hence the whole racial purity thing they have going.
The Daleks are the result of many mutations that happened to a human looking aliens called the Kaleds after a very long lasting war against the Thals. To survive and to win the Kaleds turned into the Daleks. So yes, they didn't start as a weird creature, they became that.
Going back and watching Chris' earlier "Who views". And it's hard to imagine a fan who didn't know what was in the pepperpot. To us, this is a hatred that has, in this year, gone on for more than 60 years. For The Doctor, centuries. But for the Daleks, his hate of them, and their hate for him, is ALL they've ever known. They have Davros, their creator, and The Doctor- if they have gods, those are the two.
The Daleks, The ******** and The ****** are the 3 principal antagonists for most of the Doctors, the first Doctor met the Daleks 4 times. The next 'things' he met once, the 2nd Doctor encountered the Daleks twice and the other 'things' 4 times. The last unspecified enemy didn't show up until the 3rd Doctor but like the other 2 was a resounding success.
There have been plenty of other repeat menaces like the Sea Devils and the Ice Warriors (Said the names because it's sooo vague lol) and others who I won't name or discuss until/unless they show up at some point too :) Really enjoying your enjoyment here lol. Can't wait for the Finales... Either of them :D You like the film Hot Fuzz, right?
As a Classic Whovian, I loved this reboot of the series. I thought Christopher Ecclestons Doctor was brilliant and I was sad to see him go, however it just keeps getting better.
The Doctor and the Daleks go way-y-y-y back.
A bit of history.....
DALEKS as we see them, are travel machines for the genetically altered creature inside.
They began on the planet Skaro, where two races were engaged in chemical warefare, and were slowly being poisoned. One race, the Kaleds had a scientist called Davro who chose to escalate the genetic mutations that were being inflicted on the Kaleds, to it's "natural" conclusion and also took away their conscience, making them believe they were the supreme beings in the universe.
The 4th Doctor and his companion Sarah-Jane were there at the begining.
If you want to see that story you need to watch an old episode from the 70s called Genesis of the Daleks.
the daleks are the ultimate dr who villian. they were created for one purpose, to exterminate everything that is not dalek. and they never, ever stop. to see a dalek is to feel primal fear.
I recently rewatched all of nuwho to prepare for Ncuti's era and I'd forgotten how mature a lot of the plots were. I love that they don't water down the plot just because it's kid-friendly. Name one other family show where the main character can be tortured and say kill yourself in the same episode 😂
I love the daleks
This is my favorite episode; so glad you finally got to it!
the dalek weapon is no mercy. it's specifically designed to rupture and scramble every organ and critical part of the body, and calculates the exact point where the sheer pain would kill someone, then dials it down just enough they have to live though it all until the damage finishes the job.
i can see what you were thining, but... the daleks will always find ways to be worse.
As a vibe, the early doctors are based on early feelings. Eccleston, who's fantastic, is a "war doctor"
I look forward to a new doctor who reaction every week 👍👍
Chris,Daleks are not machines as there is liing blob being inside 🎩
Which he will discover
@@fayesouthall6604 He discovered that in this episode.
Having grown up watching the Classic series,my first glimpse of this episode in the 'next week' promo at the end of 'World War Three' made me ecstatic :D
Just about every British person from age 4 or 5 up, even if they have never seen a Doctor Who episode, knows about Daleks. They are a part of our cultural heritage and feel like they have always been a part of our existence. The voice, the design, the knowledge that their only purpose is to "exterminate" the human race is so in-grained in our souls that they create an instinctive fear complex that is positively primeval in nature. If you suddenly see a Dalek, without being primed beforehand, most British people's first reaction is feeling their blood run cold and a sense that you must hide quickly before your brain catches up and processes that you must be looking at a harmless prop from a low budget tv sci-fi show!
Came to the first dalek in Dr who was in 1963. Immediately very scared public apparently.
Be patient, young Padawan..... you will come to learn all you need to know. There's an ongoing story happening with The Doctor. Many villains, many companions, many events take place. The Doctor is now 900 years old.... and while Series 1 is a "new beginning" for the character, the "Classic" series is still canon and a part of The Doctor's personal history.
If you have the ability to do so, check out the classic Doctor Who episode “Genesis of the Daleks”. Season 12, episode 11. A brilliant story and it’s got the absolute best Doctor Who, Tom Baker
Let's face it, the Dalek looks kinda silly. But Eccleston's acting sells you on the threat the Dalek represents. The Doctor's anger and fear and pain make you believe that the Dalek can do what he says he can do. And it gives you an idea of how the Time War has affected him.
This is the episode where I became a fan of the show and not just a viewer. And it's still one of my top five episodes.
Man… you are gonna be sooo confused when you get all caught up and reach the new Season 1!😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣 I just learned about that! Can’t wait to get through thirteen series and finally arrive at season 1.
@@CasualNerdReactions only on Doctor Who can a show have 26 Seasons, 1 television movie, 13 Series of a Revival, and then have ANOTHER Season 1...! 😏😆
Dr you would make a good Dalek.
The Daleks are probably the greatest villains of The Doctor. Only one other is greater, a match for the Doctor.
The Classic Era of Doctor Who began Nov 23, 1963. Back then, they showed half-hour episodes that made up a story. It was the first thing Britain saw after the news broke about JFK's assassination. The intent of the show's creator (and head of drama at the BBC) was to have a strictly time-traveling, educational children's show, beginning with the four-part story about cavemen. And he was adamant about not having any bug-eyed monsters. But one of the writers, Terry Nation, had submitted a script about the Daleks. After some convincing by the show's producer, Verity Lambert, who had read the script, Newman approved. The concept was that the Daleks were genocidal racists, and were created by a eugenics program. Basically, "space-nazis."
That seven-part story put Doctor Who on the map, and made it a hit show. 12 years later, they introduced the creator of the Daleks, Davros, when the Doctor was sent back in time to stop them from being created in the first place. That grim story, "Genesis of the Daleks," is one of the best of classic Who.
Britain was bombed heavily by the nazi's in wwi & wwii. Doctor Who was a 60's show, only 20+ years after the last war. The original Daleks were dark grey in colour, reminding us of the grey nazi uniforms. Their motive to kill or "ex-ter-min-ate" a reminder of the nazi concentration camps. Then of course the belief in genetic superiority. Davros (who you will meet later) the creator of the Daleks in Doctor Who, is very much likened to a Hitler figure, going off on rants about the superiority of the Daleks. The Doctors true nemesis, the Daleks are as the nazis were to Britain & the World. 🇬🇧
Lol,Chris,the Daleks are the arch enemies who featured 1st in 1963 Classic Who season 1🎩
Since the 2nd ever story
🤣 yep! I loved that you really felt that in this episode, yet I still thought it was a brilliant introduction for new fans like me.
@@CasualNerdReactions when you said Darlek instead of Darleks. It hit me so hard. This story was about the last Darlek. Not a story about marauding space-nazi trying to exterminate all life.
The actor who played Adam was charged with 2 charges of sexual assault.
" Some place beginning with 'S' " - Could that be Shit Creek?
Incidentally, the portrait on the wall of Van Statten is a rip-off of an original called 'Portrait Of A Man' created in 1928 by the artist Tamara De Lempicka.
De Lempicka died in 1980 in Mexico, having directed that her ashes be scattered over the crater of volcanic Mount Popocatepetl.
The Dalek absorbed the entire Internet, all the porn.... no wonder it wanted to die.
You ain't seen nuthin yet
Wait until you get to the Cybermen
Daleks and Doctor Who go hand in hand, but I think the argument could be made that this is the best episode in the modern series to feature them. It makes the Dalek an actual threat. When they return (sorry, slight spoilers) they’re never as threatening or interesting.
i hope you remove the spoiler as it's mentioned here this was the last one...
Hey, it is Elon (aka HVS, Davros ) Musk. K-k-k-k kool...Even Laurence Fox it seems...
We will make a Whovian out of you yet. Your Whovian Certificate is enroute via a Time Warp.
That's not season 1. Season 1 was in black and white. I believe this is season 27.
It’s counted as series 1
Technically, but a part of “new who” was to make this a fresh entry point and they made the official designation series 1. Interestingly enough it looks like the plan is to start a new era again making the upcoming 14th series officially designated “season 1”.
@@FlynnWho out of 39?
@@CasualNerdReactions They should add subtitles, then. Doctor Who: The Original Series. Doctor Who: The Next Regeneration. Doctor Who: Deep Time Nine.
Series 1 of the reboot in 2005.
I guess in a way I can understand, but it bothers me when people don't start watching Dr Who from the beginning. Also, I personally don't like the newer versions of Dr Who. I grew up with the old show
"200 Americans lost their lives"? Why does their nationality matter? I swear I hear this rhetoric way too often
This was written by a British author. Get over it.
It’s the fact they’re people that matters. The American is just an unconscious description since this took place in Utah when we’re usually in London.