Oshi No Ko... A Beautiful Idol Anime with a DARK and TWISTED story?!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Oshi No Ko was the most anticipated Anime to premiere in the Spring 2023 lineup. I've heard many things about the manga, so of course I had to watch the first three episodes. Even after watching the first episode, I felt the need to talk about this dark series in this episode of "First Episode Impressions"!
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PERFECT BLUE: "There's never been a more gut wrenching anime about the grim toxicity of Idol Culture!"
OSHI NO KO: "Hold my baby bottle."
Don’t forget the Season 3 finale of Aggretsuko too!
@@Scarshadow666 Never watched that one.
perfect blue is worse lol…
reminding you that that s2 ep1 is out
If I found out a singer, actor etc. I liked was having a child or dating someone. I'd be SUPER happy for them and hope that they are able to balance their career and family at the same time. That's what GOOD fans do.
Amen 🙏🏾 🕊❤️
Yep, and thats why you not the target for the dark undebelly of the Idol industry.
They feed on the toxic obsessed that will give their life and money to them.
@@MouseGoat as well as flat out MURDERING them because of their obsession. I really wish this toxicity didn't exist 🙄😞
Exactly! If my favorite idol or voice actor isn't happy, how the hell can I be happy as a fan?
Idols and voice actors are people! NOT OBJECTS!!!
sure, but not at the age of 16 bro😭😭
I’m a very respectful fan of my favorite voice actors. When I meet any of them, I don’t go insane or anything like that. I just say “Hi. I’m a big fan of your work.” And that’s it.
Same
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Respect
Yes
I think it’s okay fan out to an extent especially if it’s helped you in life as long as you don’t act like you own them or like they owe you anything and it’s good to know when it’s appropriate to ask for a picture and a small conversation and when to simply give your quick compliments and appreciation and ONLY IF they can make time and aren’t bothered a picture
I wish Japan would make an industry where they show their idols of all kinds, having families and lovers, just to weed out the toxic fans. Show that they are people with lives. No apologies. Casual fan will be perfectly fine.
Independent artists exist. Fans are fine with idols having relationships. Those are otherwise are non-fans.
Japan doesn't wanna change jack shit with their terrible culture
Idol culture is an extremely toxic thing in and of itself. Their job is to sell the lie of "I love you" and "I am yours". They're not just your everyday entertainers. Extreme fans may want this really pretty lie and we abhor them for it but they are also the most hardcore of fans, going to every concert and buying every merch. If you want to make it far as an idol, you have to make good use of them. Idol culture sorta preys on the vulnerable fans with very pretty lies, that's why it's a double-edged sword. So in a way, Idol culture is the worst and best parts of the entertainment industry
@@LuigiTheMetal64 only some fans doesn’t care what idols do
The others are usually obsessed
The harsh reality behind the entertainment industry is already bad enough in the West. In the East region? I really don't want to know...
As a novelist, I am both a fan and a member of the industry, so it's complicated. I've become friends with people others only dream about meeting, and we try to help each other out with our work. On the other hand, there are some in my industry who, because of who they are, I get a little freaked out about and hope I don't embarrass myself if we ever meet.
That's good and also may want to look into this and suggest for Anime America because Assassination Classroom for those of you remembering just got itself banned. Anyway Google and RUclips all about that.
For a while, I'm aware of Japan's toxic entertainment industry practices with idols. But I've read VAs like Mamoru Miyano and Showtaro Morikubo had a kid and didn't suffer consequences for it. I guess depending on where you are in the industry, you can have a family and still entertain. Here in the USA (depending on what kind of fan you are), we are not bothered when our favorite actor, singer, or superstar wants to have a life along with their job. We usually go "Awesome on them. Hope they'll be happy." That's my take.
If you want an example of toxic fandoms in both US and Japan, Rooster Teeth's RWBY has a dark fanbase, with such things as harrassment, death threats against the creators, ship wars (mainly for Bumblebee and Whiterose,) among other things.
And in Japan, another anime that shows the toxic entertainment industry is Aggretsuko. Yes, Sanrio made the scene where Retsuko almost got killed by an obsessive fan, only to be saved by Haida. I'm glad he did it, but I do understand that Sanrio must portray this issue among other issues in Japan in a mature way.
And fans seem ok for two idols to be together and have children. Take Yuki Kaji and Ayana Taketatsu, last November they had a child and I didn’t find any issues.
Not to be "that person", but I suspect that there's more often than not misogyny involved in these reactions (not always, obviously, and we know that men are affected as well, but I'm willing to bet that most of these negative reactions and feelings of possessiveness occur mainly towards girls and women in these industries).
@@voidbreather7405 Is it because those toxic fans want their idols "Pure" in their eyes (As in being single virgins), else they would go to low blows, so to speak?
Iirc Mamomiya got flak for announcing his gf's pregnancy and marriage back then. But the anger was nothing compared to what Aya Hirano endured
One of my favorite singers Melanie Martinez, made a song that’s all about how being famous and always in the spotlight is so hard and how dark it is. How much she wants a break from it sometimes but it’s so demanding that even when she’s exhausted, people still want more from her.
The song is called Show & Tell. And it matches perfectly with this anime’s theme.
Rush back in the 80’s did too. It’s called Limelight
Numb Little Bug by Em Beihold and Producer Man by Lyn Lapid do a pretty good touching on the subjects too I think. Both are also really great songs.
This show just hit me in the gut with the more dark side to idol life i'm glad i'm not one of these hardcore nut jobs that think they own these people that pissed me off to hearing about akari she's a grown ass woman she can do what she wants to do.
It gets better after watching Teici C reactions
*Spoiler warning!*
The moment where they show Ai's body honestly had me shook. They animated that moment just to really get across gos horrific her death was and how traumatizing it was for Aqua and Ruby.
Especially Aqua.
Ruby never had to see her mom like that, only Aqua did. It was definitely hard for both, but Aquas obsession made it much deeper. Ruby felt it later on when she had to see her doctors dead body in the cave. They both needed to see something that horrific to spark their obsessive quests. I do hope Aqua saves Ruby from her revenge. Especially because in his past life he was the person she loved. Now he is her twin brother, what a crazy situation.
Well here's something more shocking and you may want to tell Anime America about Assassination Classroom just got itself in hot water because people think it promotes school shootings and want it banned and is among the books that are currently either banned or challenged now. Anyway Google and RUclips then tell Anime America or anyone into anime about it or warn people about that.
@Kelly Chuang, just - wow. That is seriously fkd up, like, frl... Is THE ANIME seriously getting blamed for the actions of THE VIEWERS?!?
@@katrinamarvin279 Yeah really hard to believe but like I already said Google and RUclips all about this situation and those types of people either have lost their minds, can't find something better to approach the situation or turned Karen.
I tend to be a casual fan. When I would met my favorite voice actors as a kid, I always tried to be polite and thank them for making something I enjoyed. They would offer to shake hands and I would ask if that was okay, then they'd smile and talk with me instead of shuffling me aside for the next in line. I always wondered if I was being too shy and they were trying to drag me out of my shell. And why they always seemed surprised when I would let them talk about whatever they wanted instead of the show they were there for. With hindsight I now know that they were glad to talk to a fan who saw them as a person.
Tbh I wish I could be like that around the VAs I admire. But because of how I see actors in general, when I met the VA for my favorite Genshin character, I just had a blank mind and left almost immediately. I mean in theory I’m like you where I go “meh cool voices but they are still people”, but I just don’t trust actors at all because of how horrible most of them(and producers and directors) are in the wester industry
I could never talk to a va I like, especially a cons. They probably spent all day dealing with people and I don't want to contribute to their work load, so I just go about my business.
@@kap1618 it’s the horrible fans that ruin it for the rest of us they drain them too quickly of whatever energy they had at the beginning
Fun Fact Also spoiler so read carefully:
The creator of Oshi No Ko didn't want to end Ai at first but had to because even in real life, she was to powerful and popular to the point she over shadowed her children, so in order for her children to have their moment, she had to go.
She couldn't get a break even in real life!😢
Honestly, with how much this cliche has shown up in anime,
I'm inclined to believe this is just another stupid excuse by the creator.
(sorry, trying to avoid spoilers here)
I wish that people would just let celebrities live their own lives . I saw a video about Kpop idols and the industry , tough stuff . To us , it's adorable , but to them , it's brutal . 😢
They should just quit, and move on with their lives.
@@christopherfreitas-leonard7099 how can you miss the whole point??
@@morgandiaz6822 no they're right because they are famous and Powerful they have to sacrifice something what do you think have to get their power from, the money fame and power comes from people's attention and attention is not always good.
So the only way for them to become normal again is to disappear from the spotlight until majority of people forget about them, because you can't complain that you're a King and you want to be a citizen where you still have the power of a king.
@@christopherfreitas-leonard7099 from my understanding, these idols are picked as children and are not given an actual education, so when they aren't idols anymore, they can't do anything. They can't go to college, they can't get any other job, they are screwed because people want adorable young idols that they can control like puppets.
The amount of sodoku being committed 😢
Oshi no ko is amazing at dissecting the underbelly of the entertainment world. Not only idols being “pure”, but getting ‘too old’ for the industry, using connections over talent, feeling pressured into sleeping with directors for acting parts, young entertainers getting taken advantage of- Oshi no ko isn’t afraid to touch dark subject matter, that’s what makes it revolutionary to me.
None of that is revolutionary in the slightest is the, most of these things are tropes that pop up in random anime and most of the darkness is HEAVILY toned down. Ai even having kids in the first place, let alone having time to ever see them, let ALONE take care of them is a fantasy for actual idols who are lucky if they don't get an abortion on the spot. And if they're a top earner like Ai? Nah that fetus is getting the deletus on sight lmao
Furthermore, the anime actually promotes people being idols since they're framed as amazing inspirations that lift people up with their performance despite all the negatives, everyone wants to be an icon, an inspiration, that is how you get people to be idols.
None of which is a criticism of the actual anime mind you, I just do not think that's what it was going for at all.
Before watching Oshi no Ko: it's just a simple idol anime with an interesting premise (not unlike Zombie Land Saga), how dark can it be?
After want Oshi no Ko: wow, that escalated quickly.
Let me guess it went from 0 to 100 too quickly?
To answer your question, Robyn. I am a cautious fan who also made peace with the reality that I have no control over the people I admire. I have created my own fantasy world where I can have whatever I want since I understood the importance of not going crazy over something not going my way and that has taught me a lot of important lessons. I love and admire Chuggaaconroy, but I don't want to lose myself to any sick fantasies of...well...try not to think too hard about that.
I have also had a taste of that dark reality through a demented admirer who only liked me for the stories that she enjoyed reading from me only to lose her mind to my putting off writing said stories with her ranting about me being a "narc" and a "socio" all for a bunch of stories!! So, yeah, I am very well aware of how twisted the fandoms are. To which I would like to bring up a saying from No Straight Roads' own Tatiana "I don't give a damn about you, understand? I. Owe. You. Nothing" and those people need to get that through their thick heads!!
Right just let people enjoy their own lives regardless of if their famous or not
I will never understand crazy idol fans. There are definitely some J singers / bands and actors that I'm a fan of, but it stops at "oh, they sound nice to listen to, what else have they done? .......huh, neat."
I don't know if its more localised to "idols", because when Nana Mizuki announced her marriage and subsequent pregnancy I didn't hear anything about fan backlash.
Then again I may have only interacted with more like minded individuals, only thinking "aww😊, thats nice, congratulations!"
(Edit, I miss typed I'm as m. Whoops 😬)
Ah another like minded person who hears news like that and just goes “congrats now can we just move on?”
I hate tossing around the "fake fan" accusation, but to me, real fans will support their favorite VAs, celebrities and idols,
regardless of their personal life. For example, when I heard how poorly the actors were on Power Rangers were treated, I felt bad for them.
But I didn't stop liking them because it. I would love to see the old actors reprise their roles, but I can't force them to do so. It's their life after all.
When you mentioned voice actors, I get flashbacks to the old fan base (that I'm still alive for) Voltron legendary defender. And all the news of how messed up the toxic fans where and threatening the voice actors. I'm not an obsessive fan but I love the show. Oshi No Ko was great to watch and learning the difficulty of entertainment is a big eye opener. The ending in the first episode...😭🥺 I cried a lot.
Absolutely loved your honesty and respect with the topic at hand, you handled it like a champ!
Doga Koba's previous work is fine? They did adaptations of Sleepy Princess in the Demon King and Shikimori is Not Just a Cutie, series I loved as manga and was blown away by the quality of their animation and music! They are why I knew Doga Koba were the right studio, to adapt another beloved series of mine: Oshi no Ko!
Two great adaptations I was happy to watch 😊
The main character Aquamarine Hoshino from "Oshi No Ko" remind me of that character of Williams Moriarty from "Moriarty The Patriot". I mean both of them are blonde guys that are charming, smart people with dark side in them and they will do whatever it take to win in the end. They are also twins and try to keep their siblings safe whenever harm they are in. Both different characters from different shows, but so many similar traits. I love both of them so much!❤😍🤩
I kinda like that they didn’t hold back on how they portrayed the guy, Ryuunoske I think? From what he did to how he lives surrounded by pristine posters on the walls and trash on the floor they are saying “If this is how you live, it’s unhealthy.” I have thought that Going all out super fan and knowing every bit of trivia was at times kinda cool, but there are a few lines not to cross. One being if the pursuit of more content or contact with the celebrity is making you waste way too much time or money, and another is thinking just because they know about a celebrity that they REALLY KNOW them and are a part of that celebrity’s life. That’s what bugs me about the idol industry. They encourage blurring the boundaries of these, often young, men and women.
This first episode genuinely traumatised me, it was scarier than Elfen lied and I never even watched it all because I was too scared.
I can’t watch it can you describe what it is?
while elfen lied does have some gruesome scenes the most well known one being the Puppy scene im not going to explain that one you have see that for your self good luck your going to need it
@@lucygirl1111 Dammit I did not want to be reminded of that.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596 then here is a a way to avoid it whenever you see somebody talk about elfen lied always assume its going to mention the puppy scene and avoid clicking on it ^^
Elfen Lied was so dark that Germany ACTUALLY gave it an 18!
Yeah, when I first saw this anime about a Twilight Sparkle looking idol, I certainly didn't expect THAT to be what it was going to be about
I think Ai Hoshino and Twilight Sparkle are different. The most obvious are that Twilight is a pony and Ai is a human. Ai is more eccentric and bubbly. And Twlight is more uptight and organized then her.
Oshi no ko is a anime that reminds me that so many famous actors, singers and everyday people in real life end up passing away before their time. Also if Ai didn't die how much different Aqua and Ruby 's lives would have been. Awesome video btw.
I REFUSE TO WATCH THIS ANIME TILL THE FIRST SEASON IS OVER SO I CAN BINGE IT! I NEED TO SEE IT ALL AT ONCE OR I WILL CRY!
Already got spoiled for the first episode via TikTok but that made me wanna watch it more 😂
I do have high hopes for this show not turning into a bad adaptation because I think the very nature of this show keeps all the staff in check because everything about it calls out bad business practices that lead to bad adaptations. It's like having your mom at work, you know that employee is gonna do a good job cuz if there's one person that can keep them in line it's their mom.
Ahahahaha no, big business knows what it's doing is evil and this anime isn't even close to touching on the industry's actual biggest issues, they could not care less.
In an ideal world, psychiatry should be the highest paying job, because this many people demented and entitled to celebrities is TROUBLING!!!
I'm a bit of a casual fan, the first time I met a celebrity in the US was at an anime convention in Dallas last fall, it was surreal, and I was a little tongue-tied, but she was fun to talk to.
in case you're wondering, it was Toph's actress.
I am quite aware of the toxication in idol industries in Japan, I read through some problems and the mentions of idols facing problems.
Seriously, young people should not go towards idol career, if they learn what’s happening they wouldn’t try to take a go. And idols should just quite while they’re ahead and moved on with their lives, and telling about their true feelings.
Honestly, fans shouldn’t be thinking that way, it’s no wonder we don’t see any romances to some idol characters or in idol anime. And they just stopped following their favourite actors over the fact they have a boyfriend or kid, they are really not right in the head. Well, at least there some decent people in Japan if they are showing the dark side through their stories.
In fact, two VAs are married together and they had a child last November, I didn’t find any issues somewhere, seems like some fans are alright with their idols being together.
You don’t need to tell me about some spoilers; I’ve look into the manga… and dear god did was that twisted.
To answer your questions; I’m a casual fan. Sure, in the past, I’ve reacted towards bad news regarding the actors before, it was hard on me to fully grasp on reality and accept that if they have issues in their lives then that means they are people as well.
Another good example (although this might show me as an old guy) is the drama with the VA of Haruhi from the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aya Hirano. At one point around the time of season 2 word got out that Aya Hirano was sleeping around with the guys in her band and the Japanese fans were upset and even sent her death threats. It heavily impacted season 2 and also the endless eight arc didn't just added on to it
I haven't watch the show but judging the review; this, Perfect Blue and yes I'm adding this to, Misery. Fans and sadly media can be harsh on everyone's mind and life.
Hopefully we'll get better and understand
I'm a casual fan and not try to freak out, and remind myself *THEY ARE HUMAN AS WELL*
They have their own lives and families just like everyone else
As much as I love the Idols that Japan produces, it just sucks the shit that they go through to maintain their image for a bunch of entitled fans.
I complain about how actors and famous people here in the U.S get up to weird shit, and roll my eyes at all the attention people give them like the Kardashians over who their next boyfriend is or whatever, but at least they have SOME say over what they do and have the freedom to make mistakes or whatever. Idols and actors in Japan aren't allowed that same freedom because if they step out of line for one moment, its like the end for their existence and I hate it. I just wish more people would just chill out and have a brain and remember that these are REAL PEOPLE, and they are allowed to have their own lives outside of their idol-ness.
As for the kind of fan I am personally... I'd say I am between a Casual/Deep fan. I mean I LOVE Star Wars (Not so much the Sequel Trilogy) and I keep up to date on what goes on in Star Wars, though I don't go to every star wars event. When things happen that I like, I am happy - but when things happen that I don't like, I get sad or angry - and I do get angry at specific individuals - but its never aimed at the Actors or Actresses. There is a difference between hating what a character does, and what their actor/actress does and I believe people need to keep that in mind before they complain about anything - and remember that sometimes its the writers/directors who make the calls and the actors/actreses have to do what they are told weather they like it or not. Look no further than what became of Luke Skywalker.
I am a causal fan who is introverted and usually am respectful when I do meet someone I do admire for their hard work.
I’d say I’m a casual fan, I don’t go out of my way to meet people I love and I don’t like putting them on a pedestal like their the second coming or something. That doesn’t stop me from losing my mind when I meet people I love and admire but I won’t bother them if they are busy. Their people too, they have life’s, you aren’t entitled to their attention just as they aren’t entitled to your love. It’s nice to be noticed but it isn’t a requirement if their busy with their own lives.
I didn't think it was possible, but she did it. She made an Oshi No Ko video WITHOUT episode 1 spoilers. HOW?!?!
Robin might want to check out the Bollywood film Om Shanti Om because Oshi no Ko literally has the exact same premise. In fact their storylines are almost identical. Someone in Japan must really really like that movie...
Honestly, this mindset towards Idol culture infuriates me to no end!
Plus, when I found out Nezuko's VA had a boyfriend, I wasn't angry, I was overjoyed and happy for her!
For me, An idol or celebrity's health and well being is WAY MORE IMPORTANT than my selfish needs!
Like Robyn said: "These people have lives outside of their careers."
This reminds me so much of what Jeanette McCurdy was talking about in her book "I'm Glad My Mom Died"
Yessssss glad you’re making a video on this! It’s so good!!💜💜💜
Your spoiler-free description should have been "Happy Sugar Life meets Perfect Blue."
Sounds like an updated, series-long version of Perfect Blue. And I mean that as a BIG Compliment!
Nah, the series is mostly about a 30 year old doctor being reincarnated as the kid of an idol he likes who's searching for the person who set up said idol's murder.
You know when I first heard of this anime and the obsessed fan drama, I had a sickening reminder of how dark the minds of fans get to the point where they’d actually kill.
I'm interested in hearing The English Dub. Probably May-June. I'm going to hold my breath for the English Dub for it to be good 👍. Hope so. Given how good Buddy Daddies, Hell's Paradise, Konosuba, Tonikaku Kawaii, Danmachi and In Another World 🌎 With My Smartphone English Dub's were. Kinda interesting to watch the English Dub.
One of the members of AKB48 got kicked out of the group because she had a secret boyfriend, the problem is many pop idol groups is they can’t date at all, they have to maintain the fantasy of the cute single idol singing to the lonely otaku.
I am so exited to see you review this!
Are you gonna review the 6 Hearts Princess anime? It's created by Takashi Murakami, who also created the iconic smiling flowers.
I’m just a causal fan, but then again famous people in my country aren’t really treated like celebrities are in other countries. Here they’re treated like normal people. They can have a normal life and do normal things, like going to a grocery store without being attacked by fans. They even live in normal without the need for security. My stepbrother’s uncle is part of a famous metal band in my country, and I saw him once at my stepbrother’s birthday. I enjoy their music and when I saw him I was like “huh, cool” and then just continued talking to other people.
I'm watching this dubbed (I like to watch my anime, not read it, sue me), and it still hits HARD. I watched Episode 1 alone first time, then with a friend who I wanted to show it to, and BOTH TIMES, I nearly burst in to tears at THAT moment. The VAs in English do a great job as well imo, given that you can have really garbage English dubbing (Higurashi leaps to mind), but this is top tier.
I have to wait for episode 11, and it's killing me
Duuude I haven’t seen anime America since 4th or 5th grade I’m about to be in college soon 😅 Glad to see everyone here and still making content
oshi no ko has another meaning on not just the dark side of idol entertainment but also another message on internet culture as a whole
I know that the series tackles the dark reality of idol entertainment industry and majority of the entertainment industry
But I like that it also tackles the horror and mental issues of Internet culture + online communities and how it effects on actors/ actresses mentality. Plus, how internet culture has become more toxic with reactionaries youtubers and people posting their opinion without understanding their own actions effect others (cancel culture, Twitter, etc.)
Oshi no ko never takes sides and I like that the anime/ manga shows both the horrors and problems with both side
I know it's doubtful but I hope this show serves as a catalyst to bring some much needed change to the Japanese entertainment industry.
I love media like this. Anime that outright callout the self destructive nature of their popular industries or calling attention to societal problems.
Never seen this, but it's seems interesting! Gives me Perfect Blue vibes!
I'm more of a casual fan, who wants to give the actors their personal space but also would be down to just have a chat with them and build a genuine connection
I love when anime tells stories like this
I'm definitely a more casual fan. I'm too broke and too busy to be anything else lol. Stars, idols, celebrities . . . they are still people. Some with great talent, but still people. All that matters to me is the art they create, their lives and beliefs are their own and none of my business. I'm perfectly happy with that.
The mention of the industry forming the image performers have to follow reminds me of a story I heard about June Lockhart when she was on Lassie. She had given an interview before she started on the show where she admitted to doing things like enjoying alcohol and such in her free time, and the execs in charge of Lassie got up in arms. June had to agree to not wear revealing clothing, drink, smoke or swear in public for the entire time she was on the show.
So yeah, obsessive idiots who say they are fans are a problem, but corporate mandates like that are the match that light the fuse.
The really funny thing about how my reaction matches yours for wanting to see more is that HiDive keeps trying to queue up the next episode despite it not being available. It gets like 3 seconds in before it stops and says the next episode isn’t available yet.
Aka Akasaka defeats FMAB twice on MAL in less than a year's gap with two differnt shows with different themes and genre. Doesn't elaborate further. Akasaka sensei, the GOAT.
The drawn character you see as my icon was the source of drama from an entitled fan I once had. This character is not only canonically gay, but she also has a strong hatred for MEN. This one GUY (we'll call him Kevin) had a huuge crush on her. He kept going on and on about how he had her in his WAIFU HAREM despite that fact that she HATES men. He kept crushing on her to the point in which even I was starting to get creeped out by him. So I canonically gave her (ahem) "Both Babymaking parts" for males and females JUST TO SPITE HIM. Most of my fans LOVED it and she became more popular, but for KEVIN, never have I witnessed the amount of SEETHEING hatred this guy had for me for "Ruining his WAIFU". He made defamatory videos about me, spouted all sorts of homophobic crap and went so far to call me the N-word. His YT account was deleted, I blocked him and his cronies from all social media. All because I gave his WAIFU a (PAIN-IS-CUPCAKE)
Years later I stumble upon this guy's pixiv account and found out he tried his hand at drawing. He drew my character. . . doing the naughties with another woman. . .who also had the MAN TRUNK. THAT I actually don't mind and respect the fact that he tried to make something with his own hands. Turns out all that homophobic crap was the result of him actually liking Chicks with Sticks and he didn't know how to maturely handle it. That or I successfully turned him "gay" as he defines it through the power of my artwork. To this day I avoid him like the plague but if he leaves me alone, I leave him alone, and I'm fine with that.
I always saw those who do youtuber like a celebrity, some of my favorite youtuber have kids and im always so happy for them, even celebrity from tv/movies i be proud if they have kids, they living their lives beside what their career are
I find it ironic that I got an ad for this anime before watching the video.
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
I'm just a casual fan but sometimes I don't want my fav idol to be in relationship it really hurts but I'm still support them no matter what Im just a fan and nothing can change, idols are human's too they need someone to fullfil their happiness ☺️✨
Celebrities are people too and people need to remember this
Loved this anime!
It's finally getting a dub this Wednesday so I can't wait to cry
Amazing video Robyn from anime America,fantastic job.
Idolish 7 also made tons of serious topic about the entertainment industry. Like a lot.
I speak for myself and anyone who’s watching that the first episode was a real roller coaster😬
Real fans support and respect their idols and their relationships. Real agents protect their employees. This country should have laws to symbolize and enforce these ideals
So, The Idol/Acting/Seiyuu/K-Pop industries basically just says:
You wanna have a normal life? F*** that, this is your life now 😀
I mean is this any worse than how things are in the US where Actors are so fully of themselves they think they can say and do whatever they want without consequences and treat their fans like absolute shit despite said fans being the reason they have a career?
I think there will be even more screwed up stuff later down the line when they find out Ai wasnt as perfect as everyone thinks she was. I think she had a pretty dark side to her. Hinted recently with Ruby going full mental and dark, the director wanted her to play Ai at the movie because how she reminded him of Ai like that.
Yeah, You said it best. This anime is gonna be the highlight of Anime in 2023 and…..I bet it will be so High that Crunchyroll won’t make it a nominee for any award because they don’t have the rights to stream it. (If they made an english dub of this series, then…..It will fall flat.)
Good thing this anime fills in the void of Kaguya-Sama until Season 4 comes out.
Having a boyfriend/girlfriend or a kid is pure. Do not trust what the industry said, Japan.
I walked by Monica Rial once at a con here, and mock screamed, "HA-CHAAAAAAAN" at her. She giggled, gave a big smile, and waved.
That was as close as i was going to get.
It made me happy.
I find myself as a casual fan. I try to not get too personal with the daily lives of the shows, musicians, actors that have played an important part of my development as a human being. As an Introvert it’s easy to get lost in your own head/thoughts. At this point in my life I have way more important things to do than focusing on media consumption. In college that was a whole other story. Pod college different things take priority ( bills, utilities, rent, food etc). It’s nice to treat myself once in a while to get something that I might enjoy, but treat it like a desert. Try not to consume too much of it or you might spoil your appetite. Especially candy and sweets. That’s my armchair analysis for the day. Currently watching Girls und Panzer, and Samurai Pizza Cats. That’s gonna keep me busy for awhile, but also have other series to watch as well, plus personal recommendations, etc. So far both Shows are pretty good. Will continue watching at my own pace, and move on to other series after that. Keep up the good work Robyn 👏👍😁👍❤️💡🎥🍿🍍🥥🍻🇺🇸🇦🇺✨☀️🌙✨🌎🔥🌧🌈🏹⚔️🎮🍀🎉🍵🍰✅🙏.
I love meeting my favorite bands, I'm the fan that is proud to call you friend. Being an idol is lonely, and you get people who try too use you, you don't know who your friends are , and people disrespect you. I get it rockers are human, actors are human, they make mistakes. You are a nice person to me I'll be nice to you. I also want the bands that I meet that I don't want anything but friendship.
I'm a casual fan, leaving the performers/writers/etc. alone to have their own lives (unless they do something rather distasteful, then I "dump" them faster than a decomposing whale.)
When you mentioned the voice actor for Levi, i was enraged at the fans/"fans" because at least he was married to his son's mother! How many kids were "fathered" by someone who just had a "one night stand" or a "casting couch" encounter?
I think im definitely a fan who goes above and beyond but i do try to be respectful of the creators, artist and/or voice actors who make the things i love exist! I try to see the people who im fans but only if it's within the state im in
This concept actually seems really interesting. I might have to give it a watch.
I'm a music lover and I always make sure I'm as respectful as I can be towards my favourite musicians; I don't want to be "that fan", or even perceived as such, because that's not who I am. Luckily, they seem to see that, and somehow I've even been able to form "friendships" of sorts with a few of them. (I gave one of my favourite singers some small Christmas gifts for his kids once, because I thought it would be nice, and he was very gracious and appreciative.) It's so disturbing to see the "fans" who obsess over idols as if they own them. I don't consider them to be fans. They're just extremely disturbed.
Casual fan. I saw some local celebs at the store and farmer's market but they were with their families and I wanted them to have a good afternoon instead of approaching them. I don't even know nor care if an actor/singer/performer of any sort is married or has kids. I like their work and I'll support them financially when I can. Heck, I didn't know Naoko-sensei was married until a year ago and I was a fan of Sailor Moon when it came out! Their life is their life. It never belonged to me.
That one news about Kito Akari was way back in 2021, which she and said boyfriend Hozumi Yuya both denied.
man havent watched ur channel since i was in middle school, im in college now lol.
I'm a casual fan. I have followed my favorite streamer for almost 8 years, since the release of fallout 4. In that time he has had 3 kids and they are just the most adorable creatures in the world, second only after ducklings.
This is like how recently last month when the new Ensemble Stars movie came out in preview in JP theaters, two fans of Rei Sakuma got into a fist fight over who was the better fan. And the VA for Rei nearly fainted according to more sane fans and one of the other VAs yelled at the fans for their behavior.
This show relates so much...
Casual fan. Would be too tongue tied to speak to someone I enjoy the work of, but would relish the chance to meet them. A celebrity and their personal life is that: personal. It is their right to announce it on their terms if ever. I’d hear about people being married or got divorced and be like ‘oh I didn’t know that. Yay to the happy news sorry to hear about the sad. Hope they are well either way.’
5:35 There's also a third thing, the sadness for the deranged fans. People like that are clearly very mentally ill but a lot of society still views therapy and mental health help as admitting to weakness and the like. Some places have no help available whatsoever and it's deeply saddening to think that those people may never become healthy and safe because of it all.
Makes the companies even worse, they are profiting off of ill people. And they absolutely know it.
Excellent work, kirby-robyn
Now poyo
Honestly I'm a respectful fan even tho it takes me a while to be one because I forget too many names but if I see someone I like in person I'll geek out a bit and try to get memories out of the interaction but I respect people have lives
5:11-I wonder what other controversies most voice actors have been through.
6:09-That’s horrible. Imagine if fans started freaking out if other voice actors had children of their own
I find the timing of even my 15 y/o brother finding this and saying I have to check it out along with Needy Streamer Overload getting more and more popular that I might be getting it myself and now my friends are actually using it for setups now very fascinating and so intriguing- like this can't be simply ironic, how was this not intentional
Also for neither of them to be like... blatant knock-offs of ddlc, especially when games like that are inspired by other content too and not having kids these days going around saying that certain shows and other games are "stealing" the ideas as if they're not concepts that have already been around for a while, whether it's from friggin Happy Sugar Life, to shiki, to Perfect Blue; these concepts have been around a long time, and it didn 't just start from the first one that just so happened to blow up while they were of the age where they're just starting to actively see content on the internet. /nm or anything, just find all of of this, as I said, interesting to me.
Bros Get back is finna be insatiable
Casual fan for sure.
I remember when Jaiden made that video about being not straight. I obviously did not know the aftermath of that but apparently many creepy fans reacted badly to it, because they were projecting onto her. Like with manby famous people, ypou always have the creeps who want to be close to these people or projecting a relationship into them. I am thankful in that regard for being like Jaiden, because I also do not care about being in a relationship except platonic ones. I feel so bad for Jaiden for having such creepy fans. I mainly watch from afar and just enjoy the stuff I enjoy, because I hate going outside. Jaidens video made me realize something about myself and I am grateful for that.
I just wish more people could seperate fiction from reality. I have a chronic illness that makes my perception of the world different from most people. But I still know that voice actors and singers are people. That content creators are people and that I have nothing to do with them except for liking their content. Everyone has a life outside of their job and most of it is not my business. I obviously like it when they share some personal stories but most of my interaction is through their content except for my friends, but that is something seperate. I guess my main thing is the fact I get obsessed with stories and fictional characters.
I like talking about certain shows or books I enjoy, but I do not care at all what the people behind the screen, voice or book are doing in their free time. That's their business. Why should I care? I just want to read the book and have a good time with the characters. That's my take and I am proud of it.
I think a game that covered this subject pretty well albeit with some hiccups was yakuza 5 with harukas whole idol story so I’d recommend it for any oshi no ok fans tho I don’t reccomend playing it by itself yakuza is definitely a series meant to be played from beginning to end
You know what anime also touches this? Perfect Blue
I'm extremely casual, I tend not to care much about who the actors, writers, or singers are, most of the time I won't even remember their names. I solely focus on whether I like the product or not, and I legitimately can't understand why some want to pry into these people's lives or feel betrayed when they find out something they don't particularly like about them.
But that could just be me because I've never even considered anyone as a role model much less put someone on a pedestal.
Why do people keep saying the twin are gonna be together, plus I don’t wanna get flashback about something that is buried in pit