I have the FP3 on my 2017 Dyna Low Rider S. I love its versatility. It sounds like the FP4 is a lot more limited than the FP3. The FP3 has mapping for not only exhaust and air cleaner, but also for different size cams. The steeper price tag also seems crazy, since it only gets you a slimmer design and faster downloads and uploads. If this is the case, I would recommend the FP3 over the FP4 if it is still available.
Hello: I want to buy the FUELPAK P4 ECU for my HD 48 year 2015, I have V&H SHORTSHOTS STAGGERED exhausts but I have an ARLEN NESS MINI 22 air filter, can I map the bike with that air filter? Or it must be a V&H air filter. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Can anyone point me to where the FP4 throttle position is? I initially tried on an iOS and found quick that there is still issues with that platform. So I went and found an android, downloaded the app and found majority of the stuff on there. Only thing I show for air and fuel is RPM. Where is the throttle ? Get that lag out. Thanks guys , ride safe !
Hi guys, when are you sorting out the IOS App, my unit gives completely bogus data when I view my sensor data, from rev readings that should cause a valve bounce while idling to sub zero temperatures at comfortable ambient conditions. If I read on the forums and reviews the product gets on average a 1 star rating because of specifically this issue and other features that is not working.
@@freedom6919741 FALSE. As long as you flash back to stock it does not void the warranty. Get your facts straight before speaking son! Best of luck with the "real tuner" that voids the warranty!
@@hardlyableson230 Once a 3rd party tuner writes to the ECM, that information is stored in the ECM, regardless if the tune and the tuner are removed. Then, when the dealer connects the bike to the Digital Technician, the VIN is flagged and the powertrain warranty is voided.
@@freedom6919741 so I have a question, what is in your opinion, a true tuner? I'm not really trying to be a smart ass here, but I have both the power vision and I just got the FP4 and I can tell you with over a G of my money that the FP4 seems to be the better of the 2. The interface alone is better from app to app. Short of taking my bike down to the shop that does tunes for a living I'm not really aware of another product that does what the FP4 does but I'm always seeking enlightenment....bye friends
Early investigation proved out that we'll need to have access to one to be dynoed here at V&H. Looking for volunteers in the SoCal region...might toss you some goodies.
@@jimbeam4111 iOS App has been fully updated over the past month, and the only difference between the two apps is that iOS is currently missing the AutoTune function.
Missing the auto tune? That’s the best bit😮 I have a 48 fitted with FP3 …. Works well so bought FP4 for my 2021 fatbob and doesn’t do what the FP3 does…. And cost more….. Vance and Hines step up and sort this
I would avoid Vance & Hines. They gave me a return authorization and got my return package nearly a month ago. I've talked with their customer service multiple time and each time they promised my refund, but after nearly a month nothing and now they won't even accept my calls.
I'm very disappointed with the fp4 I had my hopes up that VH would make it great and boy was I let down. VH was once a quality company but now is just pushing incomplete, low quality junk.
It does not work, the values it returns are incorrect, in some cases it simply does not give information, every time I close the application the censors settings are lost on the screen, it constantly disconnects, the application crashes or closes out of nowhere, the settings of my bike that I had in FP3 are not loaded yet, the autotune and maintenance odometer options were also removed, just a fraud for a piece of sh!t, you should not have put it on the market if it was not ready yet
Says the guy whose channel videos all show bikes with large engine builds. You do understand that there can exist a market for professional grade and consumer grade products, right? A market where some users that aren't going to build their motor would rather use something that prioritizes ease of use and simplicity? Imagine that! Keep on riding in the free world, Freedom Rider!
Not really. If you're simply throwing on a pair of slip-on mufflers and leaving everything else stock. But you still need to tune to compensate for the difference. It's far cheaper to get one of these tuners than throwing your bike up on a dyno. Also, if you ever wanted to swap out your exhausts or slip ons mufflers with different ones, the vance and hines tuner, you can do so without having to go back to dyno and get everything readjusted.
@@hardlyableson230 so you mean I had my bike tuned properly? Big engine build or stage 1 the V&H tuner is junk. Been proven by tuners all over the country time and time again. It’s your engine blow it up if you want. Makes no difference to me.
I have the FP3 on my 2017 Dyna Low Rider S. I love its versatility. It sounds like the FP4 is a lot more limited than the FP3. The FP3 has mapping for not only exhaust and air cleaner, but also for different size cams. The steeper price tag also seems crazy, since it only gets you a slimmer design and faster downloads and uploads. If this is the case, I would recommend the FP3 over the FP4 if it is still available.
Hello:
I want to buy the FUELPAK P4 ECU for my HD 48 year 2015, I have V&H SHORTSHOTS STAGGERED exhausts but I have an ARLEN NESS MINI 22 air filter, can I map the bike with that air filter? Or it must be a V&H air filter. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Can anyone point me to where the FP4 throttle position is? I initially tried on an iOS and found quick that there is still issues with that platform. So I went and found an android, downloaded the app and found majority of the stuff on there. Only thing I show for air and fuel is RPM. Where is the throttle ? Get that lag out. Thanks guys , ride safe !
Came here looking for the same answer
It's EPA compliant, you did not mention that.
Where do I find air flow specs for pipes
Like what pipe will give the best performance, is the x pipe in the big shots as good as a normal 2-1???
can be used for an iron 883 year 2021 ?
Can you adjust the idle rpm? like you could in the FP3
same question here.
Hi guys, when are you sorting out the IOS App, my unit gives completely bogus data when I view my sensor data, from rev readings that should cause a valve bounce while idling to sub zero temperatures at comfortable ambient conditions. If I read on the forums and reviews the product gets on average a 1 star rating because of specifically this issue and other features that is not working.
Completely unhappy with my FP4. Has trouble connecting, iOS interface is terrible. Says my bike is at 60,000 rpm. Just all around unhappy with it.
Can i use fp4 with my 2020 HD fatboy 107?
Have you found any ‘22 FXLRS yet to create maps for? Want to get it but I have a 117 engine…
Still does not work with IOS. When can we expect full functionality?
Doesn't work with android either. Smh
Doesn't work well period
When will the FP4 be available in uk 🇬🇧 market. Would the uk fp4 have a different market. How is it identifiable from us range. Thanks Vance and Hines
It doesn’t work anyway. Pos.
Does this tuner affect your warranty? Does it piggyback to the map on the OEM ECM or does it overwrite the map?
Yea it voids warranty. If your going to void it do it with a real tuner.
@@freedom6919741 FALSE. As long as you flash back to stock it does not void the warranty. Get your facts straight before speaking son!
Best of luck with the "real tuner" that voids the warranty!
@@hardlyableson230 I am not your son and the tuner is junk. Facts.
@@hardlyableson230 Once a 3rd party tuner writes to the ECM, that information is stored in the ECM, regardless if the tune and the tuner are removed. Then, when the dealer connects the bike to the Digital Technician, the VIN is flagged and the powertrain warranty is voided.
@@freedom6919741 so I have a question, what is in your opinion, a true tuner? I'm not really trying to be a smart ass here, but I have both the power vision and I just got the FP4 and I can tell you with over a G of my money that the FP4 seems to be the better of the 2. The interface alone is better from app to app. Short of taking my bike down to the shop that does tunes for a living I'm not really aware of another product that does what the FP4 does but I'm always seeking enlightenment....bye friends
when is this available to purchase?
Right now. I just bought mine from Revzilla
The product was shipped out last week, and it's available for purchase today at your local motorcycle shop or favorite online retailer.
Loved the FP3 on my breakout can't wait to put the fp4 on my 22 streetglide special hopefully yall have some good maps for it
Is it available for European models?
How does the FP4 work with the Hammer Big Bore kits???
It won’t
At this time the FP4 does not support cams or changes to the combustion chamber
any time frame on when the 2022 117's will be added to the fp4?
CVO Calibrations are now live in the FP4 App!
@@bryandehlin-grant2388 thanks, will it work with non-cvo models. Looking to run on a 22' fxlrs.
@@tlatch135 As soon as we get access to a '22 FXLRS or FXLRST for a calibration upload to dissect, maps will become available.
What’s your location?
@@waferzworld V&H Headquarters is located in Santa Fe Springs, CA
Time frame for 2022 LXRS and LXRT 117 tunes?
Early investigation proved out that we'll need to have access to one to be dynoed here at V&H. Looking for volunteers in the SoCal region...might toss you some goodies.
Will this void my factory warranty?
Yes
@@freedom6919741 another L for the Freedom Rider!
@@hardlyableson230 still junk just like the old one was.
Will the FP4 eventually be available for older models Harley-Davidson? Say a 2016 dyna?
The FP3 works with those very well.
I agree they do. I was about to purchase an FP3, but If a 4 is on the horizon for a 2016 Dyna I will wait to buy it.
@@damage1705 might want to hang out for another few weeks...stay tuned.
@@bryandehlin-grant2388 eagerly waiting 😁😁
I’m hearing the FP4 app doesn’t play nice with iOS?
iOS app has been updated and will receive another update this week.
Yup im still not able to use this thing on my iOS device. Spent over $400 just to sit on my garage. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@dayanbittencourt8183 has the issue been fixed? I was thinking about getting the fp4 but if it won’t work with IOs I won’t
@@jimbeam4111 iOS App has been fully updated over the past month, and the only difference between the two apps is that iOS is currently missing the AutoTune function.
Missing the auto tune? That’s the best bit😮 I have a 48 fitted with FP3 …. Works well so bought FP4 for my 2021 fatbob and doesn’t do what the FP3 does…. And cost more….. Vance and Hines step up and sort this
Can I use the fp4 with my 2019 forty eight special?
At this moment, the FP4 is not compatible with that model and year, please use the FP3.
Nice
I would avoid Vance & Hines. They gave me a return authorization and got my return package nearly a month ago. I've talked with their customer service multiple time and each time they promised my refund, but after nearly a month nothing and now they won't even accept my calls.
Connect, tune, void your warranty, and ride.
I hope I can send this back. This thing is worthless. Go pv4...
Take my money.
I'm very disappointed with the fp4 I had my hopes up that VH would make it great and boy was I let down. VH was once a quality company but now is just pushing incomplete, low quality junk.
It does not work, the values it returns are incorrect, in some cases it simply does not give information, every time I close the application the censors settings are lost on the screen, it constantly disconnects, the application crashes or closes out of nowhere, the settings of my bike that I had in FP3 are not loaded yet, the autotune and maintenance odometer options were also removed, just a fraud for a piece of sh!t, you should not have put it on the market if it was not ready yet
Junk ! Been proven over and over on Dyno. People who still buy these need to do some research.
Says the guy whose channel videos all show bikes with large engine builds. You do understand that there can exist a market for professional grade and consumer grade products, right? A market where some users that aren't going to build their motor would rather use something that prioritizes ease of use and simplicity? Imagine that! Keep on riding in the free world, Freedom Rider!
Not really. If you're simply throwing on a pair of slip-on mufflers and leaving everything else stock. But you still need to tune to compensate for the difference. It's far cheaper to get one of these tuners than throwing your bike up on a dyno. Also, if you ever wanted to swap out your exhausts or slip ons mufflers with different ones, the vance and hines tuner, you can do so without having to go back to dyno and get everything readjusted.
@@hardlyableson230 so you mean I had my bike tuned properly? Big engine build or stage 1 the V&H tuner is junk. Been proven by tuners all over the country time and time again. It’s your engine blow it up if you want. Makes no difference to me.
Does the FP4 support 2 into-1 muffler kits by Cobra such as the El Diablo part #6475B?
Do you leave the kit plugged in after installation?
They do not have a Cobra tuner map... As of today, anyway. (05/24/23)