Aan Paavam vs. Pride and Prejudice: Comparing the impact of music | Ilaiyaraaja

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  • To understand the impact of Ilaiyaraaja’s music in Aan Paavam, we contrast it with Pride and Prejudice (1995), which takes the opposite approach towards the music.
    In Pride and Prejudice, the fun is in making the audience wonder about the inner meanings behind the dialogs. All the focus is on the dialog, and music is kept to a bare minimum (during titles and major scene changes).
    In Aan Paavam, the music plays a crucial role, taking a love theme, and varying it throughout the movie. The background score acts like a narrator. But when music is a narrator, it doesn't have to use words like a human narrator. That leaves the option open to the viewer, to give their interpretations to the narration. A human narrator would have to be very specific.

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  • @neoblimbos
    @neoblimbos 4 месяца назад +160

    Shared this video with Pandiarajan (director) he was so thrilled and excited, said it disturbed his sleep, watching your detailed analysis so well and that the music and the movie stood the test of time and remains one of the favorite BGM ring tone for many

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +22

      😱😱😱… Thank you very much. This is such awesome news… 🥹🙏🙏🙏this movie has made me sleepless too in the last month 😂 (and now this news!)

    • @drrashmichandran
      @drrashmichandran 3 месяца назад +3

      Global standards and quality exists and still continue within each life who live their life with Passion, Compassion, Devotion, and Dedication in their intentions, perspectives, and works... That's why each life is unique created for it's own purposes... WORTHY meaningful integrity within the professional ethics of this video...
      🇮🇳🙏🏾🔥⚖️🙏🏾

    • @sharvan369
      @sharvan369 3 месяца назад +10

      I request Pandiyarajan Sir, must think of re-releasing the Aanpavam film with digitally enhanced version 😊🙂

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад +1

      @@sharvan369 I agree 😃😃😃👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @RajaRani-mk8nl
      @RajaRani-mk8nl 14 дней назад

      மிகவும் அருமை.

  • @ayyamperumal4068
    @ayyamperumal4068 4 месяца назад +58

    இசைஞானி இளையராஜா அவர்கள் இசை & பாடல்கள் இன்னும் ஆயிரம் ஆண்டுகள் மக்கள் மனதில் வாழும். நன்றி மேடம் இளையராஜா பற்றி இந்த தொகுப்பினை வழங்கியமைக்கு

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +8

      மிக்க நன்றி ஐயா! 🙏🌸

    • @thiruvel5756
      @thiruvel5756 3 месяца назад

      Your way of detailing in English and working on your feet and responding in tamil - shows that you are more than a general human - Inspiring !!

    • @JP-bi3vw
      @JP-bi3vw 3 месяца назад

      Because he's using notes to convey human emotions.. and we call them 'music' 'song' 'bgm' and so on.. one with the same frequency cld easily decode his soul n emotions.. blessed to be attuned to him..

  • @fireworxz
    @fireworxz 4 месяца назад +171

    And considering Ilayaraja composed all the songs and BGM in these movies INSTANTLY, AND writing notes for every single instruments on the spot at that instance makes him absolutely peerless. Also the fact that he watches the reel once and starts writing notes immediately for the scene, without a stop watch, which perfectly matches the scene and stops at the right moment.. None comes close to him

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +18

      Amazing! If he went reel by reel, without watching the full movie once… it is amazing how he makes each reel relate to the other in BGM. In most interviews, it sounds like he does it in such a rush too... I think he did go reel by reel without seeing it fully first (for this film)… 😳😳😳

    • @bharathirajamuruganandham1168
      @bharathirajamuruganandham1168 4 месяца назад +15

      The genius himself and many directors have stated he watches full movie once. Then goes once again reel by reel composing notes in silence. Third time he watches with the live music played.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +8

      Phew! That’s good to know. It’s almost impossible to make the scenes relate fully without watching once fully. An interview from Pandiarajan sir seemed to imply he went reel by reel for this movie and my head exploded 🤯😂. I must have misunderstood he was a bit tough to follow for me.

    • @vasudevan9237
      @vasudevan9237 4 месяца назад +15

      World no 1, music director
      He gives folk, carnatic and western style in one song list like that. Can anybody argue in this
      🎉

    • @athreyaa
      @athreyaa 4 месяца назад +6

      @@suvaissance - Also, it is recorded that he never uses a stop clock to know how much music he should compose for scenes. He knows it instinctively

  • @selvalingam1263
    @selvalingam1263 4 месяца назад +46

    Justice done. There can never be an award bigger than இசைஞானி pattam for our Maestro. Madam did it with par excellence ❤

  • @siva2k23
    @siva2k23 4 месяца назад +65

    சிறந்த ஆராய்வு தொகுப்பு. வாழ்த்துக்கள்.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +6

      மிக்க நன்றி ஐயா! 🙏

  • @thamizhmadhu
    @thamizhmadhu 2 месяца назад +9

    சங்க இலக்கியப் பாடல்களுக்கு ஒவ்வொருவரும் அவர்களுக்கு ஏற்ற வகையில் விளக்கம் தருவது போல இளையராஜா உடைய இசையும் சங்க இலக்கியத்திற்கு இணையானது

  • @itsvenkathere
    @itsvenkathere 4 месяца назад +30

    Ur taste, observation, interpretation and perception amazes me.. jealous!!

  • @661857
    @661857 4 месяца назад +40

    I wish this video never ended❤ Brilliant analogy🙏🏾

  • @venki22374
    @venki22374 4 месяца назад +20

    Wow madam.. well done 👍
    Our legend illayaraja all these classics, he has done it very very quickly.
    Your videos are very well used for music education purposes.
    i am upset with many Tamil people/youtubers who doesn't know our legends value and spreading negativity..

    • @sridevis1482
      @sridevis1482 4 месяца назад

      Yes, very sad, they troll, age- shame & abuse personally without even having any proof, we are destroying our own legends and elders

  • @Paranthaman-o9t
    @Paranthaman-o9t 4 месяца назад +17

    "எதுக்குங்க ரெண்டு டம்லரு, சூடா இருந்தா ஆத்திக்க" ="கண்பார்க்கும் உல்லாச பார்வை உண்டாக்கும் சொல்லாததை" இளையராஜா எப்பவும் சூழ்நிலையை இசையில் மொழிபெயர்ப்பார்

  • @talkitec
    @talkitec 3 месяца назад +13

    what's so astonishing is all this brilliance for a comedy movie from a relatively new director. Its not even a classic or experimental movie. He knows the target audiences of the movie, still he created a magic in his own way never worrying about whether those audience can understand all these layers. He is the clear example of "do your duty without expecting about the result" and now it has stood test of time.
    Majority of us are not even aware of these techniques but still he made us enjoy the music.. What a genius.
    Thanks a ton to you, this is the first video i see in your channel and no words to appreciate your efforts. Hats off.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад +2

      Well said… He is a gem… Glad you enjoyed! I keep digging around patterns in music…

  • @syedbuhari2305
    @syedbuhari2305 4 месяца назад +50

    Ilayaraja is a university of music. But less celebrated and enjoyed. A single note shows the whole story which how many of us understood then….marvellous work

  • @sssun7
    @sssun7 4 месяца назад +20

    Happy to see aan pavam still mesmerise a lot even today after 40 years. One interesting note: For first four days of release the theatre was all most empty but on the fifth day onwards there was an extreme surge, all by word of mouth. And it went on to 300 days of run 🫡

    • @dennayeson
      @dennayeson 3 месяца назад

      Jambalaya chicken

  • @sssun7
    @sssun7 4 месяца назад +14

    Nice observations 👌 I was able to recall all those moments of 1984 when i saw the movie fresh at madurai. That 8-katai analogy is again a good observation. 👍 pranams to raja 🙏🏻

  • @sundeepmarshall8518
    @sundeepmarshall8518 4 месяца назад +16

    They say whatever ilayaraja writes is intentional ❤️❤️ and he never changes it. You just decoded Ilayaraja’s day dreaming version of the BGM. I love this video . Plz do more ilayaraja BGMs 😊👍🏿

  • @rameshkaran8603
    @rameshkaran8603 3 месяца назад +5

    அமைதியும் ஒருவகை இசை வடிவம் தான்..!
    ஆனாலும், அது எப்போதுமில்லை..!
    அமைதியையும் இசையாய் உணரும் தருணங்கள் எத்தனையோ நம் வாழ்வில் தெரியாமல் வந்து போகிறது..!
    இதே அமைதியைத்தான் இசைஞானி கூட எத்தனையோ பின்னணிகளில் இசையாய் நிரப்பியிருக்கிறார்..!
    முடிந்தால் அவைகளையும் எங்களுக்குத் தொகுத்துத் தாருங்கள்.
    நன்றி அம்மா நல்லாதொரு பகுப்பாய்வுக்கு..!

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад +1

      மிக்க நன்றி! 🙏🌸 கதாப்பாத்திரத்தை சுற்றி தெருவின் ஓசையும், சிட்டுக்குருவிகளின் ஓசையும் மட்டுமே இருந்தாலும், அந்த கதாபாத்திரத்தின் இதயத்தில் உள்ள துயரத்தை இசையால் வெளிப்படுத்துகிறார் இசையமைப்பாளர்.

  • @suraon6
    @suraon6 Месяц назад +2

    எங்களை தமிழ்நாட்டுல இப்படியே இசையோடவே வளத்துட்டாங்க....❤🎉 இங்க பிறப்பு முதல் இறப்பு வரை இசை தான் எல்லாம் 🎉

  • @muhamkrisharumarum4705
    @muhamkrisharumarum4705 4 месяца назад +15

    Maestro Bhagavan Raja Sir Music god.

  • @abineshprakash7621
    @abineshprakash7621 4 месяца назад +49

    In this movie in the 'kaadhal kasukkuthaiya' song there is a lyric that goes like 'intha kaala ilaignar seiyum kaadhalukku endrum Ilayaraja enthan paattu irukku ' which holds good even today

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +10

      I had originally written script to include that song too in this video... then kept that song for another day. It's a brilliant creation all around.

    • @gorillagiri7327
      @gorillagiri7327 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes 👍

  • @murthyannamalai9247
    @murthyannamalai9247 4 месяца назад +12

    Yaar ma nee, beautifully expalined Raja Sir Music....

  • @sriragavlogin
    @sriragavlogin 4 месяца назад +38

    I have seen so many videos praising this particular background music.. i thought the first two tunes are exactly same (i haven't learnt music), but i felt the difference between the two.. exactly how you have explained..
    I really got goosebumps when you explained the techncality of the music and the one octave difference..
    great mam !!

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +5

      Happy to read about your experience 😃

  • @anandvenkatesh5421
    @anandvenkatesh5421 4 месяца назад +19

    Brilliant explanation Madam. For a lay person it becomes even more awe inspiring since he was already under the spell of a great music and now he is told of the brilliant nitty gritty involved in that music. Wow
    Anand

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +3

      Thanks! I like how the same tune transforms between “meeting” and “day dreaming”

  • @kalpanapillai3908
    @kalpanapillai3908 Месяц назад +3

    In simple words he is musical god for the Indian film industry

  • @Viveckan
    @Viveckan 4 месяца назад +15

    I am really proud of myself. I enjoyed this music at the level where I got addicted and made it as my ringtone.
    But now I am happy that this is really a wonderful thing to think about. I am proud of myself that I really have a good taste.

  • @PRABU53
    @PRABU53 4 месяца назад +55

    Everyone has musical instruments but the Raja is the one who gave birth to every music from it🎉

  • @ArvindhCM-fu6tv
    @ArvindhCM-fu6tv 4 месяца назад +17

    Indeed the aanpavam bgm speaks to the soul... Can't get enough of it

  • @175rise22
    @175rise22 4 месяца назад +9

    It's always refreshing to see your analysis..... don't stop.... lots of love

  • @suriyaprakash2793
    @suriyaprakash2793 4 месяца назад +8

    The great Ilaiyaraaja...❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ and excellent explanation, mam. Thank you so much. Especially for your own lyrics❤❤

  • @ganesh8892
    @ganesh8892 4 месяца назад +49

    He is such a great talented musician here few groups of people unable to digest and fuming to destroy his fame.
    But people from nook and corner of globe time and again coming to portray his Calibre.

    • @chddhn7410
      @chddhn7410 2 месяца назад

      Boss, he is a legend in music but pretty ordinary person in character. When someone bashes his music, its not acceptable, at the same time, someone ridicules his behaviour, its true and accept to the facts. Overall, take it with a pinch of salt of any comments on his personal life, instead enjoy and appreciate his music.

  • @Sebas-s6t
    @Sebas-s6t 4 месяца назад +11

    I am so happy and proud that you take Ilayaraja, the Maestro underrated in the world of World Music, an unrecognized genius to a larger audience. Keep inspiring millions.

  • @GokulPrasanthOfficial
    @GokulPrasanthOfficial 4 месяца назад +23

    Ilaiyaraaja 👑

  • @DeepakKumarV
    @DeepakKumarV 4 месяца назад +12

    Wow! Incorporating a distance between the notes to indicate the physical distance is mind-blowing!

  • @gokuinstinct2838
    @gokuinstinct2838 4 месяца назад +12

    Please breakdown "Mouna Raagam" theme music. I wonder how did he come up with that...

    • @sofluzik
      @sofluzik 4 месяца назад

      People stop doing this, to breakdown is fine, not have someone comment how raja sir did it . Breakdown is humbling enough as such

    • @helo4318
      @helo4318 Месяц назад

      @@sofluzik are you dumb ????

  • @50sky
    @50sky 4 месяца назад +8

    Fantastic analysis felt like gone through a research paper, Raja sir music deserves Doctoral research.

  • @karthy5754
    @karthy5754 4 месяца назад +10

    That is a wonderful analysis madam! ❤

  • @anushnarajendran6930
    @anushnarajendran6930 4 месяца назад +5

    Madam, your BGM analysis is great. Even though I do not know much about music, now I could feel how the BGM in a scene influences the spectators. Love and Horror scenes BGM of Ilayaraja sir is peerless.🙏

  • @praveens1034
    @praveens1034 4 месяца назад +12

    Aan paavam music is really soul soothing.

  • @75snambi
    @75snambi 4 месяца назад +2

    Guitar may be invented in the west. But in this context, it is played similar to "urumi" along with Veena.
    Similarly the girl is not obedient as the author says. There are 4 gunas that define women according to ancient Tamil literature. The characters simply fits that definition.
    So, please don't try to paint western notions into everything. That doesn't make sense.

  • @sambaphysics74
    @sambaphysics74 4 месяца назад +6

    What an observation and narration. Great hats off

  • @PDWaltz
    @PDWaltz 4 месяца назад +4

    I think Mahendran or Balu Mahendra said that they consider Raaja as their co-writer for their movies as his music does what their dialogues or narration couldn’t or didn’t..
    One and only Raaja.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Wow!!!

    • @bala2k2
      @bala2k2 2 месяца назад

      True, it is justified in many movies... In specific, movie named Johny old Rajinikanth movie

    • @bala2k2
      @bala2k2 2 месяца назад

      ​@@suvaissance Johny movie may be best content.. you can try mam..

  • @thamaraipoo-rj3eo
    @thamaraipoo-rj3eo 4 месяца назад +12

    Legend… i feel happy i am living in this era

  • @rsarunprakaash
    @rsarunprakaash 4 месяца назад +7

    I just realized I haven't subscribed to your channel, even though I've been regularly watching your videos, especially the ones about Raaja Sir. Amazing Analysis.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank u 🌸 Welcome to Suvaissance! 😃

  • @firstdrive9573
    @firstdrive9573 3 месяца назад +4

    Great Analyse. It's another Diamond to Maestro Ilayaraja's Crown.

  • @DevaAnbuMuniyandi
    @DevaAnbuMuniyandi 3 месяца назад +3

    Mam! You have taken Raja Sir’s music to a whole new level of Appreciation ❤. I am just flabbergasted of how much more could be interpreted and correlated.

  • @ramalingambalaji7722
    @ramalingambalaji7722 3 месяца назад +1

    Really appreciate the way you are deciphering IR musical prowess. Genius, he is.
    Having said that, for lesser mortals like us, the ever lasting memory of the movie "ஆண் பாவம்" is :
    பாண்டியன் : "டேய்.. வண்டி பின்னாடி இடிக்குதா பார்றா"
    பா.ரா: "ஆங்.. வாங்க.. வாங்க.. வாங்க..."
    BG சத்தம் ; "டொம்"
    பா.ரா. : " ஆங்.. இடிச்சிடுச்சு" !!
    Just like the Senthil's Banana episode

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад

      Thanks… Nice scene 😂😂😂 every scene is awesome… I started out making this because I felt haunted by the lovely music but by the time I rewatched the movie for research I was thinking a lottt about Pandiarajan sir… What a brilliant comedy… each funny incident naturally happens (not pushed in for the sake of making jokes) and woven well into the story… It is extremely difficult to write comedy. He wrote comedy gold and he is so humble… he makes fun of himself… Truth is, he is a genius. 🙏

  • @jesudosskirubakaran7358
    @jesudosskirubakaran7358 4 месяца назад +2

    I want to know is Pride & Prejudice and Aan Pavam has the same story.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Oh no. They just have some similarity. Aan Pavam - about the love lives and marriage prospects of two brothers.
      Pride and Prejuduce - about the love lives and marriage prospects for two sisters… (and some more sisters who are minor characters).

  • @MK-dg6qj
    @MK-dg6qj 4 месяца назад +6

    What lovely music by the maestro and what a lovely video to find its suvai! Thanks again

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +1

      This is the regular commenter MK?

    • @MK-dg6qj
      @MK-dg6qj 4 месяца назад +1

      @@suvaissance yesss! Oh u remember? How lovely! Thanks 😀

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Welcome back! Oh yes… I remember many regular commenters and wonder about them when it’s been a while… Especially remember “MK” because we have these discussions about whether the composer really planned the symbolism or not. 😂

  • @srirangamjothidar3747
    @srirangamjothidar3747 2 месяца назад +1

    Nice program... Keep continue the good work.. "பெண் பார்க்கும் என் கண்ணின் பார்வை உண்டாக்குதே காதல் பார்வை".......

  • @malinipachaiyappan8598
    @malinipachaiyappan8598 4 месяца назад +4

    சிறப்பு. ராஜா என்றும் ராஜாதான்

  • @suryatejag6463
    @suryatejag6463 4 месяца назад +5

    Nice explanation mam❤. learning lot from your videos.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Thanks! Glad you liked… #First !!

  • @arulbharathibharathi7838
    @arulbharathibharathi7838 4 месяца назад +5

    Thanks for bringing out this Brilliance...

  • @vishwanathansukumaran8458
    @vishwanathansukumaran8458 4 месяца назад +6

    Really sweet and stylish Voice Madam. .. Extraordinarily fitting lyrics too.. 🏆🏆

  • @arunpitchai5735
    @arunpitchai5735 3 месяца назад +4

    Nice that someone who talk about this bgm in detail...i felt this has to be highlighted. Thanks, you did that🎉

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад +1

      ☺️🙏 Glad you liked…

  • @balakumarv404
    @balakumarv404 4 месяца назад +2

    Wow what a deep analysis of Mastro's music it's wonderful 👍

  • @libefrankmelino.a25
    @libefrankmelino.a25 4 месяца назад +3

    Mam many musicians said about ' Etho Mogam' song. It is 15 years ahead of that period... Why they are saying so... Plz explain

  • @suvaissance
    @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +11

    By the way... I must make it clear that the 1995 BBC version of Pride and Prejudice is my most favorite binge-watch thing. I've watched it several times, and enjoy it with tea! Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle are burnt into my mind as Darcy and Lizzy. I just used it in this example to bring out the two contrasting approaches in Pride and Prejudice (1995) versus AAN PAAVAM. This helps us understand the role of music in Tamil cinema culture. Do not mean to say one is better than the other. Composers must do what is required by the director, assessing what each story needs, and what should connect with each audience, according the culture.
    “Music as narrator” is a very interesting concept, because it does NOT have to use words like a real human narrator. It can let you use your own interpretations about the scene. I wish I had included that segment in this video, I cut it out while editing. I can talk about it more in a later episode.

    • @babus8008
      @babus8008 4 месяца назад +2

      Your analysis has given us a new dimension to enjoy IR's bgm magics. We wouldn't have thought in this perspective, esp somebody like me, who has no music knowledge. Hats off to you for your beautiful narration and pl keep doing
      more. God bless you 🙏

    • @rajeshmaripalli2865
      @rajeshmaripalli2865 4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for your creations Su Krish! PhD deserving content🎉

    • @JC80405
      @JC80405 4 месяца назад

      Both movies are my favourites, but I still like only the 2005 adaptation. Where the music is the narrator. And Mathew was born to be Darcy although Colin Firth is awesome in his own way

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      @JC80405 Ah ok. I was talking about 1995 Pride and Prejudice vs Aan Paavam in my comment above. Have not watched 2005 Pride and Prejudice.

    • @shankari24
      @shankari24 4 месяца назад

      Am a fan of the BBC version too. God knows how many times I’ve read the original unabridged novel by Jane Austen. Colin Firth is etched in my mind as Darcy as he is extremely handsome with the required old fashioned class. Keira knightly (2005) is an apt Lizzy though! Ehle is a tad blunt as opposed to the sharp lizzy. I guess you really have to emote well to convey precisely when the bgm is not filling up the potholes. I do love the music that pride and prejudice has when the title is being played.

  • @kriss4me2u
    @kriss4me2u 2 месяца назад +1

    just tears in my eyes..... the way you explained those music nuances, rekindles lots of memories and you are talking about 40 years old composition . All i can say is THANK YOU for helping us to understand and enjoy compositions. Subscribed 🤩

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  2 месяца назад +1

      Happy to read your comment! Welcome to Suvaissance! 🌸

  • @thamizhmadhu
    @thamizhmadhu 2 месяца назад +1

    அவரின் ஒவ்வொரு பின்னணி இசையும் ஒவ்வொரு சிறந்த பாடலுக்கு சமம்

  • @shabrishpraveen1
    @shabrishpraveen1 4 месяца назад +4

    Google knows my favourites and hence it recommended this video to me as Aan paavam is my favourite tamil movie because of the music. There all lot of Ilayaraja songs but this movie bgm is my favourite ❤😊

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Glad to hear… just curious… did you land here from a Google search for “Aan Paavam”?

    • @shabrishpraveen1
      @shabrishpraveen1 4 месяца назад +1

      @@suvaissance RUclips recommend this video to me. Not via Google

  • @vindsoft
    @vindsoft 4 месяца назад +1

    OMG! Distance between note intervals! Never thought about it!!!

  • @santhoshkumar_2393
    @santhoshkumar_2393 3 месяца назад

    நம்ப தகுந்த செய்தி
    ஆனால் அந்த இசை 🎤🎼🎹🎶அற்புதம்
    இளையராஜா இளையராஜா தான்❤

  • @kumaravelun
    @kumaravelun 4 месяца назад +7

    We don't have the intelligence to understand mastero music

  • @lakshminarayananr7716
    @lakshminarayananr7716 4 месяца назад +2

    Awesome explanation!! Very technical, but logical and sensible. Well done maam!

  • @ayyappangvrs9295
    @ayyappangvrs9295 22 дня назад +2

    அருமையான விளக்கம், நன்றி பல 🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  22 дня назад

      மிக்க நன்றி 🌸

  • @Real_James-esq
    @Real_James-esq 4 месяца назад +4

    I love the interpretations and analogy 👍

  • @shr011104
    @shr011104 2 месяца назад +1

    Raja usually writes the entire score, completes a film max within a session. Now imagine who's he, nothing less than a Saraswati avatar. This Aan Paavam by the way haw been my caller/ringtone for decades now ❤

  • @VijayKumar-oi4dj
    @VijayKumar-oi4dj 4 месяца назад +1

    U Mam pls put the bgm and fix the English Movie scenes which reflects. We can enjoy Isaignani Illaiyaraja Sir bgm which has no languages and has a limitless happiness.

  • @canget10
    @canget10 15 дней назад +1

    Beautiful analysis of the aan paavam bgm ❤.

  • @kvijay73
    @kvijay73 4 месяца назад +1

    First of all u have to learn Tamil first
    Before talk about raja sir !!
    You don’t have rights to comment raja sir musical…

  • @sidrixs8147
    @sidrixs8147 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow .. The greatness of Tamil language and Maestro Ilayaraja ayya..
    Very well explained... Artistic explanation for the understanding of people with less knowledge on music..
    Indeed SUVAI.

  • @chandrasekar5073
    @chandrasekar5073 2 месяца назад +1

    நீங்களே இசை . இசையே நீங்கள் ! ( You do NOT know that ! That is good in a way ) . you were able to understand , ENJOY , able to convey to others also ..May GOD BLESS ..Please keep enjoying the Music as you are always

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  2 месяца назад

      I don’t know if you thought of this before… but I started thinking about this a lot recently… If A explains something to B, and B understands it, it means B already has everything that is needed to understand it within him! Just some existing thoughts are getting rearranged in B’s head after the explanation. So… we all are music. That is the principle upon which this channel is built. I really do believe that people who enjoy music have the capacity to understand it - otherwise how are they receiving the emotions that the composer wanted to send through the music? What is missing may be repeated practice of hand movements, or vocal practice but the thought capacity is there…

  • @bulbulthara4408
    @bulbulthara4408 4 месяца назад +1

    WOW, Enthralling. Madam, long time ago in an Interview, Ilayaraja said that before composing, R.D Burman used to get details from the film director about the kind of saree and its colour etc., of the heroine and get them in the form of his tunes. ( Ilayaraja's words are " the song will have rose coloured voile saree").
    Would you please let us know how the colour and type of a saree can be brought in a song ?. I ve been asking music people I come across and I am yet to get the answer.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +1

      I believe you yourself can decide how this tune should be composed. Think about what is the difference between a pearl necklace and a saree. When you look at a pearl necklace, you see it made of tiny individual components. So, if a song must feature a pearl necklace prominently, it can make ting ting ting ting ting sounds (bell like sounds). And guess what the composer did... he used lots of ting ting ting ting sounds in a song featuring a pearl necklace. As you can see here:ruclips.net/video/khQPVqEdOSo/видео.html and so your attention is drawn to the individual pearls. In fact, the visual shows pearls falling individually. So the song brings the pearls into it quite effectively. Notice how the ting ting sounds are short individual sounds - very good to represent individual pearls.
      Now let's think of a saree. Even though a saree is made of tightly woven threads, what we see in typical distance of standing near a person, is one long continuous cloth. You don't see the individual threads. Let's say the actress is standing in the breeze in her saree... I don't know what R.D. Burman song you are talking about. But if I am the composer, I would choose to highlight how a saree is one long continuous thing gently blowing in the wind... To achieve this effect, I would choose violins, and write the tune so that it has long notes. The violinists must move their hands with long strokes of the bow. This is how I would highlight a saree in a song... It would depend what R.D Burman was trying to highlight. Each artist would give an interpretation of "what is a pearl necklace" or "what is a saree" in order to feature it in a song. Now I am curious what song he was talking about. If you have the link, please share it. I enjoyed replying to this. :-) I might turn this into an episode.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +1

      And as for bringing color into sound, there are some ways on how you can do it. (1) Some people have "synesthesia" - some of their 5 senses are tied together. For example, a person with synesthesia may be sure that the capital letter A is always red, and E is always green. And you can't convince them otherwise. A composer might hear a certain raga, and "see pink" because of what he is hearing. If the composer has synesthesia, he will compose the tune which makes his own mind see the color. It is possible that either R.D Burman or Ilaiyaraaja - one or both had synesthesia. Check out synesthesia with a Google search. (2) Through simple interpretation - In every culture they say things like white means peace, black means death, etc. Red means warning in western culture and actually even around the globe. They may compose according to such moods.
      Whether you followed (1) or (2) The question is can OTHERS feel the same color? Can the average listener find out "composer made this tune to represent blue color" I doubt it. In the pearl and saree example, it is easier to make others also feel what the composer felt. I doubt anyone is going to say "this song is about a red saree" just from the tune... unless there was lyrics about a red saree, they may not be able to say it.

    • @bulbulthara4408
      @bulbulthara4408 4 месяца назад

      @@suvaissance Thanks a lot for your reply Madam. I myself have not seen that Burman movie. But it is from an interview of Ilayaraja some 8 years ago in TV.
      Also in another Hollywood movie , a girl is found playing clarinet. Her male music teacher admires her hair colour. The girl replies that her father used to say her hair looks like sunset ( dull orange coloured hair). The teacher asks her to play sunset. The girl then plays sunset with her clarinet. I can only listen to and enjoy music. But if it you were me you would have completely understood how sunset is played in that movie.

  • @MrPeriyachi
    @MrPeriyachi 4 месяца назад +1

    Very Deep Knowledge of music you have sister that you exaplained and compared the hollywood and Tamil Movie

  • @rajaindia6150
    @rajaindia6150 4 месяца назад +12

    Great analysis of raja sir's music, thats why he is god of music

  • @umamageswarivengadachalapa2907
    @umamageswarivengadachalapa2907 3 месяца назад +1

    Wonderful comparision...Superb detailed explanation

  • @naveenghanesh
    @naveenghanesh 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi sukrish 👋👋👋
    Happy to see u after a long time
    Excellent detailing 👌👌👌

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  2 месяца назад

      Hi! Long time… I did notice you were kinda “gone”… Thanks! 🙏☺️

  • @me007log
    @me007log 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice Comparison... Learned lot from this... truly informative... thanks for sharing this... :)

  • @noelgeorge3
    @noelgeorge3 4 месяца назад +1

    Hail your observation good mam. 6:01 you have got a hidden treasure, blown away by your lyrical phrasing. Mam you are a lyricist too.. Hats off. Keep enlightening us through music.

  • @naveenkumarpaadalgal7933
    @naveenkumarpaadalgal7933 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm a literature student and now an English professor. I could feel the nuances what you have explained us through Pride and prejudice novel. Your style of decoding is really awesome. Even a common audience able to connect with you. Ilayaraja is one of the genius composers in the world. Lots of love 💖

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  2 месяца назад

      Wonderful! Happy to hear! ☺️🙏🌸

  • @MrSivakumard
    @MrSivakumard 4 месяца назад

    Dedicated to Maestro Ilaiyaraja's BGM lovers. "Aan Paavam" movie full BGM in 12 minutes. ruclips.net/video/N_eL3MUKEj0/видео.html

  • @rajahamdan2950
    @rajahamdan2950 4 месяца назад +2

    The content blood group of Raja sir's are more and more Love and Imagination... That's why soulful creating musical sound frequencies 🎶🎵travel with our hearts ❤❤... Beautiful explanation by you sis 👍🏻👏🎧

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Haha... I like that description... blood group... 👌👌It's true... the man is made of music... Thank you...

  • @zvonimirtosic6171
    @zvonimirtosic6171 4 месяца назад +1

    The music in Aan Paavam is beautiful per se. But as in many movies from India, it turns acting into over-acting, movies into musicals. Overuse of music leads to emotional over-saturation, and turns movies into a theatre for children, where every single second "must be explained" - either via the dialogue with music, or music alone. The audience is thus infantilised: the chance to stop for a moment, think on its own, and not be "led by hand like a little child", is taken away.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      I understand what you’re saying… It is not abnormal in Hollywood to use background scores, heavy background scores too. Pride and Prejudice is a rare case in BBC where there is absolute minimum use of music… They are different art forms… I chose it to contrast and explain musical narration which Raja sir is amazing at doing… sometimes I like to think of scored scenes as direct representations in paintings (like portraits)… and unscored scenes like modern art… where you must work out things, intentions.. I enjoy both!

    • @zvonimirtosic6171
      @zvonimirtosic6171 4 месяца назад

      ​@@suvaissance Bollywood and Hollywood are related, in their infantilised treatment of the audience. But the BBC production is different, though; Pride and Prejudice from 1995, that exact scene showed in the video above, is really about rapid maturing up of two main characters. They face each other, and each must decide what is going on, and whether to trust each other. The silence between them, is deafening. The challenge they both face is enormous, great possibility of an embarrassment, misunderstanding and heartbreak, and in a few minutes they must grow up quickly, to face the consequences of their actions.
      It reflects the same tension we all face in important moments in life. Those are silent moments, there are no gypsies walking behind us playing the violins to boost our morale. We are alone, and we must go on to face the challenge in silence.

  • @mrprvnm
    @mrprvnm Месяц назад +1

    OMG. Still that music in repeat mode.

  • @karthikeyen.e.r.6601
    @karthikeyen.e.r.6601 3 месяца назад +1

    ராஜா ராஜாதான் ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @jink1231
    @jink1231 3 месяца назад +1

    The initial reference to bass guitar with the actress's neck movement couldn't have happened as described as in Indian movies songs are composed first followed by visuals. The choreographer would have taken the music as a cue for that movement.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад

      Good remark about the songs… indeed songs are composed first. But this is just background score, which is composed after the visuals.

  • @MrPeriyachi
    @MrPeriyachi 4 месяца назад +1

    Tamilians hv more deep of emotion than expliciting in words and that emotion always reflects in cry anger and love
    Thats the DNA of tamilians and Ilayaraja is a person who is again a more of a emotional person than expliciting in words
    You could hv seen this as he struggles to talk or gets anger fast while being disturbed or questioned but he brings out his emotions in the form of music
    Again these are his real emotions and he used music as the pathfinder for his alll the emotions
    Long Live your service Sister and keep doing it more ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      True! You have brought out what I was trying to say. The British hold back their true emotions and say indirect things, Tamils openly show emotion. That is also why such emotional music suits Tamil cinema.

  • @shivkumar-q4v5r
    @shivkumar-q4v5r 4 месяца назад +9

    Isaignani...is a musical genius. He z my god. Listen to his music in every situation in my life. Hez god to me❤

  • @Inwardschannel
    @Inwardschannel 4 месяца назад +8

    Great insight! Thank you madam for doing justification by comparing Ilaiyaraaja s music with a Hollywood movie which is at par for the musical works of Ilaiyaraaja sir. Much appreciated madam!

  • @K_Muthukumaran
    @K_Muthukumaran 4 месяца назад +2

    Very nice analysis, interestingly explained

  • @jmuthukumar8
    @jmuthukumar8 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent analysis!!!
    Thanks!

  • @philipmelanchthon2440
    @philipmelanchthon2440 4 месяца назад +1

    We have andha bhakt not only for Modi but also to Sri Ilayaraja...

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      As long as we are not deaf bhakts of the Maestro 😂

  • @Sundarajan-mo6xz
    @Sundarajan-mo6xz Месяц назад +1

    Engey irundu vaareeenga.🎉🎉🎉

  • @mohan_eeswar
    @mohan_eeswar 2 месяца назад

    ஏதேதோ இதம் ஆகுதே
    ஏனேனோ இதழ் ஊறுதே
    ஏதேதோ இதம் ஆகுதே
    ஏனேனோ இதழ் ஊறுதே
    என்னுள்ளே உனைத்தேடியே
    என்னுள்ளே உனைத்தேடியே
    எனைக்கேளா மனம் போகுதே
    ஏதேதோ இதம் ஆகுதே
    ஏனேனோ இதழ் ஊறுதே
    ஏதேதோ இதம் ஆகுதே
    ஏனேனோ இதழ் ஊறுதே

  • @sharvan369
    @sharvan369 3 месяца назад

    Great analysis of this BGM! This is my top favorite piece of music, always evoking indescribably beautiful feelings. Building on the scene you described, there's another moment in the film where the hero waits for the heroine at their meeting spot near a small waterfall and river. Due to being delayed by household chores at her mother's request, the heroine arrives late. By then, the hero, disappointed from waiting too long, has left. As the heroine reaches the spot, she sees the hero walking away through the river in the distance. The BGM in that scene is absolutely stunning, creating a powerful emotional impact. Ilayaraja Sir's music is simply beyond words, deeply touching the heart and soul. I'm still searching for the right words to praise his incredible talent.

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад

      @@sharvan369 Thanks…that’s a beautiful scene indeed…😊

  • @indianatlarge
    @indianatlarge 4 месяца назад +2

    I am not sure if Ilayaraja would have thought so much while doing the BG score, as explained here.. the musical genius he is, says is many interviews that 1. he doesnot think music, he just unleashes the inspiration in him 2. his BG score is like underlining on a text, to highlight

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +1

      You are right sir! There is logic or beautiful coincidences behind why we like something. Do not mean to say that a composer makes a big strategy plan…. It just flows out. But when we look at it later, we can see the patterns… I also don’t make big plans when making any art or music..

    • @krishjay3132
      @krishjay3132 4 месяца назад

      ​@@suvaissance Succinct reply 🎉💐

  • @agripagalavan2311
    @agripagalavan2311 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤கண் ❤பார்க்கும் ❤உல்லாச பார்வை ❤உண்டாகும் ❤சொல்லாததை.....❤❤❤

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      ☺️

    • @agripagalavan2311
      @agripagalavan2311 4 месяца назад

      I impressed my wife with this line.... Thanks

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh my goodness 🙏… first I wrote like தந்தானா தானா because I didn’t have a lyricist near me… then I thought I myself should come up with some words because viewers will connect with real words better… I am glad I put in the time after seeing your comment 😃❤️🙏

  • @travelwithmuthu4381
    @travelwithmuthu4381 4 месяца назад

    Very well expalined Music difference.Thank you.There must be a reason choosing AAN Paavam.Kindly explore 80 s and 90s movie music of Issai Gani Ilaya Raja music

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  4 месяца назад

      Reason: Just straight from the heart… re-watched aan paavam, and decided in the spur of the moment that I wanted to do episode(s) on it…

  • @AnmigaBharatham
    @AnmigaBharatham 3 месяца назад

    Watched all ads without skipping to support your work 👌

    • @suvaissance
      @suvaissance  3 месяца назад

      🥹🙏🙏 Thanks for your support

  • @andysondur
    @andysondur 4 месяца назад +1

    " film makers have been using the veena sound over such women" (4:00) Looks some mind voice (in tamil) went wrong in translation.

  • @FUNLoadDhamaka
    @FUNLoadDhamaka 3 месяца назад

    All time my fav BGM of this movie...it's memorized...Ayya Raja is king