HOW TO CUP COFFEE - Tasting for Beginners and "Coffee Roasters"
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- I truly hope you enjoy this video and get something out of it. The biggest takeaway I want you to leave with is… do not take it so seriously in the beginning and have fun. The rules and procedures deterred me from cupping coffee for a long time as I thought I needed to be more educated and experienced before trying it. What a bunch of “hogwash”. Make it fun. Learn the correct rules but if you need to break them sometimes then go for it. Better to cup and taste coffee than not because some self-created obstacle deters you, aka (kids, time, money). So this is my coffee cupping technique.
and.... I forgot to mention scoring the coffee… wow... what a complete oversight...
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Below is the SCA cupping rules and info if you want to play by the rules. These are updated as of 7/2/2020.
"SOURCE":
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The basic SCA Cupping ratio:
• The optimum ratio is 8.25 grams of coffee per 150 ml of water
• Sample should be ground immediately prior to cupping, no more than 15 minutes before infusion with water.
• Grind particle size should be slightly coarser than typically used for paper filter drip brewing,
• The water should be freshly drawn and brought to approximately 200º F (93ºC) at the time it is poured onto the ground coffee.
• The grounds to steep undisturbed for a period of 3-5 minutes before evaluation.
CUPPING/TASTING:
Step #1 - Fragrance/Aroma
o Within 15 minutes after samples have been ground, the dry fragrance of the samples should be evaluated by lifting the lid and sniffing the dry grounds.
o After infusing with water, the crust is left unbroken for at least 3 minutes but not more than 5 minutes. Breaking of the crust is done by stirring 3 times, then allowing the foam to run down the back of the spoon while gently sniffing.
Step #2 - Flavor, Aftertaste, Acidity, Body, and Balance
o When the sample has cooled to 160º F (71º C), in about 8-10 minutes from infusion, evaluation of the liquor should begin. The liquor is aspirated into the mouth in such a way as to cover as much area as possible, especially the tongue and upper palate. Because the retro nasal vapors are at their maximum intensity at these elevated temperatures, Flavor and Aftertaste are rated at this point.
o As the coffee continues to cool (160º F - 140º F), the Acidity, Body and Balance are rated next. Balance is the cupper's assessment of how well the Flavor, Aftertaste, Acidity, and Body fit together in a synergistic combination.
o As the coffee continues to cool (160º F - 140º F), the Acidity, Body and Balance are rated next. Balance is the cupper's assessment of how well the Flavor, Aftertaste, Acidity, and Body fit together in a synergistic combination.
Step #3 - Sweetness, Uniformity, and Cleanliness
o As the brew approaches room temperature (below 100º F) Sweetness, Uniformity, and Clean Cup are evaluated.
o Evaluation of the liquor should cease when the sample reaches 70º F (21º C).
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YESSSSSS finally someone with ENERGY this is what the Coffee community needs as so many people think of the subject as BORING when it is NOT!
Dude my point exactly. People have made it so upity that many people don’t care to learn more about it. I try to keep it light hearted and fun as possible. Don’t get me wrong I like geeking out over the small details of coffee too but I don’t take it so serious that the joy disappears from it. Thanks for watching my friend! Truly appreciate it.
I think what i appreciate the most is how you are just a real guy. Not hyping products or having some high hire you're riding. Just a real guy explaining what he does and I learn a new perspective from your videos so thank you
What a great comment!! Thank you so much for that. Means a lot that people appreciate that. I understand the need to peddle products sometimes but it gets to be annoying like commercials. Truly hope the video was helpful and hit me up if you have any questions. Thank so much for watching!
Honestly, you are one of the coolest coffee-dudes out there. Thanks for all your efforts, your energy and for sharing all your Knowledge. I learn so much from you while having fun watching you and listening to you!
Already loving this video and I am only a few minutes in! The Folgers spit was epic. 0:44
Haha thanks buddy! Ya, some coffee just don’t quite pass the taste test! Haha thanks so much for watching buddy!
I'm looking to get into roasting, so glad I came across this. You make a complex process less intimidating. Much appreciated.
Rob, You are God sent. I continue learning from you. Thank you.
No problem! Glad you found the video helpful! Makes it all worth while!
I like the fact that every video about cupping is very serious with people act like scientist and then there is Rob using normal words and being relaxed and all. Thanks Rob, keep up the great attitude!
Haha yes indeed! Life is to short to take it to serious. Truly appreciate you watching my friend and have a blessed weekend!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I'm trying to watch most of your videos because I'm planning to start my own small roastery so I'll need all the info I can get!
I haven't laughed out loud at a youtube video in a long time, but I'll let you what, when you sipped and spat out the Folgers... Fantastic! It reminded me of Nacho Libre with the beans.
Haha! You know it’s funny about scenes like the Folgers one. It takes 5 mins to set that shot up and then you spit coffee all over the place and then clean up for 5 minutes just for a 3 second clip! Haha makes my day somebody actually enjoyed it! Truly appreciate you checking out my video and hit me up if you have any questions! Always happy to help.
Bro literally the same had to show my wife hahahaha.
Haha glad to hear man! Truly appreciate you guys watching!
VERY amusing vid! And yes, I'll be cupping this weekend!
This is so informative but also so honest, and thank you for the reminder to keep it fun! You're really inspiring and I love your approach! I'm just getting into coffee roasting, and am thinking about where that might take me, so I really appreciate that you always mention how to do things from a business perspective as well. I'm definitely going to be binge watching your vids. Keep up the great work!
haha, thank you so much buddy! I truly appreciate the kind words. Roasting coffee is a fun journey. It makes drinking coffee even better once you start having more control over the flavors. I really hope you enjoy the videos and hit me up if you have any questions. Thanks so much for watching and have a blessed new year!
I’d never heard of this but I did enjoy learning and you have a very likeable personality that’s fun to watch! Keep it up 👍
Heck ya buddy! I truly appreciate you watching!
Very entertaining and you learn something every time with Robe very awesome video thank you for doing this
No problem buddy and thanks so much for watching and the kind words! Truly hope you are enjoying the coffee journey and have an amazing weekend!
Great videos man :-) Fun & educative at the same time. Greetings from Norway!
Thanks buddy!! Never been to Norway but would live to go. I watch Matti sometimes (another youtuber) and he is from there. Truly appreciate you watching my friend!
Thanks for posting such a fun yet informative video! Have just subscribed. Cheers from New Zealand : )
Welcome aboard brother! Thanks so much for watching and truly hope it was helpful! Crazy to think people on the other side of the globe have seen it. Can’t wait to make it over there one day! I hear great things about New Zealand!
The folgers bit at the beginning had me dying lol
Haha! ya I almost didn’t put that part in but after I got the video together I am glad I did. It honestly was horrible so the exaggeration is kind of warranted. Lol
Love it bro - appreciate the content, the energy & personality you bring 👌🤙
Truly appreciate that David! Means a lot. Thanks so much for watching!
Great Video! First full introduction to Cupping. Enjoyed.
Heck ya! Thanks so much for checking it out. Cupping is fun and you can learn a ton about coffee and the different types. It is tedious and takes awhile to see results sometimes but like anything the better you get at it the more enjoyable it becomes. Hit me up with any questions my friend!
😂😂 I’m rolling right now. Great vid man.
haha great to hear! Really glad you enjoyed it! Hit me up if you have any questions. Have a great weekend!
Great video! Just started roasting in a popcorn popper this week. Probably move into the cupping soon. I’ve been testing the local craft coffee for a few years and now I’m on the adventure to be able to roast at home. I love how the world of coffee and all there is to learn opened up. I have my eye on some books and I’m reading the online stuff. I appreciate your videos! Thanks for putting those out.
No problem at all buddy! Glad they have been useful! Roasting is a fun journey and it brings an entire new coffee experience. Hit me up with any questions and have fun with it!
Enjoying your video series. Appreciate the time and effort you've put into these!
I use to watch a Gary Vaynerchuk way back when he just did a Wine tasting. Some of his approaches were pretty applicable. In one training he would set out a table full of items for taste training. Items used as descriptors in flavor notes for wine/coffee tasting. Helps build/train the taster's reference library when moving forward with coffee cupping. Thought that was a novel idea.
That is a great idea! I have heard of some coffee enthusiast doing that. I actually want to try it and see if it can help develop my pallet some. Will definitely look into it.
I truly appreciate you checking out my channel and thanks so much for the feedback. This is def a good video idea I will add to the list. Hope all has been well and have a great weekend my friend!
YESSIR!!!!! Just what I needed!!!!
Glad to hear buddy! Really hope you enjoyed it!
Nice video man. I like your sense of humor too.
Really appreciate that man. Ya, I try to keep it pretty light hearted. Thanks for watching my friend!
If I watch the right video I learn 100% more about coffees than I knew before.
This is one of those videos
Glad to hear buddy! Truly happy it was helpful and thanks so much for watching!
Very informative. I'm really excited to do cupping for the first time. I will be roasting three different batches in my new Ailio Bullet R1 and invite my friends over. They think all coffee taste the same lol. It's going to be fun.
Lastly, your channel inspired me to begin roasting coffee and plan for a specialty coffee roasting family business. Thanks Rob and can't wait for your next video
Cheers!
Dude I always wanted to try the Bullet! Looks like a cool machine. That is really great to hear my friend! Happy these videos were able to help and inspire some. Truly hope the best for your venture and keep me updated on your progress! Comments like this make it all worth the while!
Nice stuff man, yeah friends are always good!
Haha yes I deed! Thanks so much for watching buddy!
Subscribed. Seen a few of your vids and i really like your style, and your approach to educating us noobs.
Heck yes!! Thanks so much for checking out my videos! I truly appreciate it my friend!
Awesome content. Thank you so much
No problem Alex! Truly appreciate you checking it out!! You getting into roasting or just a coffee enthusiast?
this is as fun as a cupping session can get :) nicely done Rob. Appreciate the detailed description on text. As for the Subs, well its going to go up n up real soon :) i remember you being on 350 something when i subscribed. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much Ricky! I truly appreciate the encouragement. Been needing that lately. Ya, when you get reading into the SCA rules it is insane how detailed it is. I just barely hit the highlights even in the description. Thanks so much for watching and encouraging! Hope all has been well and have a great weekend.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee SCA can wait, I'll start with Rob n James versions :)
All well here Budd, u too stay safe :)
Well done Rob, great video !
Thanks buddy! Truly appreciate you watching and hope it was helpful!
this is so awesome dude! gonna go to my first cupping this week!
Super cool man! You will enjoy the heck out of it for sure. It takes a little bit to get to a point where you can start picking out notes but like anything it just takes time. I truly appreciate you checking it out and let me know how it goes and if you have any questions! Where you live by the way? Judging by your channel you travel a tad bit. lol
Also, I just watched your podcast on Matt D’avella. Super down to earth dude you seem to be! Great podcast man!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee oh rad dude!! thanks man! I just did a tasting with 4 different coffees.. hated all of them lol
haha thats hilarious! Ya it takes some getting use to drinking it black like that. At least you gave it a go!
Outstanding video. Very informative
Thanks so much buddy! Truly appreciate you checking it out!
Great video, a very underrated way to learn roasting and tasting. Also nice mention of the Regalia roast defect kit...although whenever I check they seem to be out of stock.
Thanks so much for watching Keith! Glad you enjoyed it. I know Regalia only roasts it on occasions so you have to sign up on their mailing list. I had to sign up the first time because they were out as well. Now they email me every time they are doing it. It is pretty expensive but I think in the beginning it is worth it.
thank you i've put off going to a cupping in a portland shop for over a year. maybe i won't have to now from your video! if you're as talented at making coffee as making me laugh i definitely want some!
I don’t know how it is in Portland but most people in specialty coffee down here are pretty open and willing to help. I truly appreciate you watching and happy to hear you enjoy the videos!
Thanks for the video Rob. I love your energy and personality...I've been home roasting for 10 years and Folgers just doesn't cut it. I usually buy a cup of coffee with my meal at a restaurant just to confirm how bad it is compared to home roasted ;o)
haha my mom still drinks Folgers. Haven't been able to convert her over to the "good side" but such is life. Can't tell mama what to do. Truly appreciate you watching! What do you roast on now?
Love your videos and your personality tops them off. Keep it up and hopefully you will never change who you are.. thanks man!
Well dang man! You have me over here blushing! Haha thanks so much for watching and I truly appreciate the comment. Means a lot! You roast coffee or just getting into it?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I’ve been home roasting sense April of 2020. I love it and never knew coffee could taste so great and I’ve been drinking coffee sense the 60’s .. plus the information on coffee is very deep and wide, you could never learn everything... yikes. I love the way you present it... perfect! Like I said ... NEVER CHANGE WHO YOU ARE... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 👍
Exactly and more information seems to be coming out all the time. So much room for improvement it seems. I truly appreciate the kind words Darrell and I do not plan on changing for sure!
Well done bro. Thank you for doing this🙏 keep it up
Will do buddy. Let me know if there are any other videos you would like to see. Thanks so much for watching!
Your'e a Legend mate... honestly.. Well done and thanks mate :-)
Thanks ol buddy! Ya, this one turned out to be a decent video. I want to do an updated one soon and expand on some other avenues of cupping. Thanks for watching my friend!
The best video! 👌🏻
Thanks so much for checking it out buddy! I truly appreciate it!
Thanks for the tutorial. Due to having the past couple of weeks off of work, and getting a tad bored, I got a popcorn popper to tinker around with roasting and a couple of pounds of green beans from Sweet Maria's. Looking forward to testing that out and then following this cupping method alongside of some beans roasted by people who actually know what they're doing. Gonna be fun! Keep up the good work here and on the podcast (I've recently gotten hooked on that.)
Heck ya! Welcome to the roasting world! It’s def fun for sure. Just roast, experiment, taste and start over. Thanks so much for the kind words and watching and best of luck on the journey buddy!
I'm a beginner that just sprung for a Kaldi, and I am loving Rob's videos to help get me started. I grabbed Scott Rao's book for espresso, and I am also really stoked for the new book recommendation!
Nice man!! Welcome to the roasting journey! It’s a fun journey for sure. Which Kaldi did you get?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Thanks!! I’ve made a couple batches now and I think it’s off to a good start. I have the motorized type, and it seems to be working well for me so far!
It’s a good machine to learn on for sure. I still use my from time to time because it is small and easy to use.
Hey Rob! I'm new to your videos! In fact just found them today. I really appreciate you going through the entirety of roasting coffee etc.... you really seem like a kick a** dude. have a good one brother. stay safe man!
Haha thanks so much for the kind words buddy! I really appreciate that and I am glad the videos have been helpful. You planning on home roasting or starting a little business?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee probably at some point unfortunately with Covid going on it's been a bit rough to afford anything. Everything I have is to take care of my daughter which ain't much. Hopefully soon though bud.
Man I hear you on that. I have started to be way more cautious and risk averse. Family def comes before my dreams at the moment. Best of luck during this chaos. We will make it through to better times.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee likewise man
Great video! I am taking some classes on coffee tomorrow and will also be doing some cupping. Will be arriving to class prepared now:) thanks😊
That’s good to hear! Is this your first time doing one of the classes?
Rob Pirie - Cedar Ota Coffee Yes first time😀
Well have fun with it and enjoy! I’m sure you will have a blast!
Informative and entertaining. Thanks.
Thanks for watching my friend and truly appreciate the feedback! Hit me up with any questions and happy holidays!!
Loved this tutorial! Been drinking coffee since I was a kid (didn't mess me up... probably) and just got into home roasting my own about 2 years ago. Can't believe I didn't start that sooner. Upgraded from a Whirley Pop on my propane camp stove to a Behmor last year and having a blast experimenting with different beans and roast profiles. Now trying to get better at cupping so I know what I'm roasting, or at least sound like I do to impress our friends. Really liked how you explained what you were doing and looking for; very helpful. Biggest tip that I heard somewhere for kind of jumpstarting tasting ability was to drink a really dark, like French Roast, for about a week prior to seriously trying a nuanced tasting. World of difference right there and I was able to pick up on all sort of notes that I completely overlooked before. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks so much man! I truly appreciate you checking them out! Means a lot to get comments like this. The Behmor seems like a pretty popular roaster with people. I was just talking to a guy today who was roasting on one and had some questions. What are you plans for the future with it? You planning to just stay home roasting or eventually start a roastery or something down the road?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Probably common story; love coffee, discovered I could actually take a green coffee bean and turn it into something palatable and maybe even enjoyable, thought to myself "Hey! I could really get into doing this as a business and shift out of my current career in corporate life over the next couple years!", then life happened. I'll be home roasting for the rest of my life, even if I have to use one of my iron skillets over a campfire. That said, I haven't given up on the idea of moving towards testing the waters of moving up to a business. We have some local roasteries in the area that are pretty well established and have a good product, but I still prefer my own beans over theirs. Not sure if it's because I'm roasting according to my own preferences or if it's like growing your own vegetables and hunting your own meat; tastes better because you did it through your own efforts.
Haha ya I hear ya on that. Covid through me for a loop this year and then work got crazy so everything I was pursuing has seemed to stagnate recently. Hoping that all changes soon. And you are definitely right. Coffee you roasted and cucumbers you grow for some reason always taste better! You live in the states Chris or somewhere else?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee In the States, but spent some time out of country.
Got ya. I figured you were but people surprise me where they are from on here sometimes.
Thanks Rob, I’ve subscribed. Love from Australia. And your from my favourite American State, if I heard right in another video, Louisiana.
Yes sir the good old Louisiana!! What brought you over this way? Australia is definitely on my bucket list to visit.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Just travel, way back in 1988, backpacking almost stayed for good. I’ve been back but not Louisiana unfortunately. I found Southerners to be similar to Aussies, pretty chill.
Ya, the south is pretty laid back. Media gives us a bad image but for the most part we cool dang people. I would love to get over to Australia one day. I think I would fit in with you guys. I don’t know how accurate it is but I watched Crocodile Dundee at least 100 times growing up. One day I’m going to make it over there for sure.
Heyyy new friend here 👋. Thank you for posting I’m loving all this info.
Heck ya! Happy to share it! Are you getting into roasting to or just cupping?
Curious in roasting. Never even knew cupping was a thing 😄. Learning something every day!
Haha yes indeed! Entire new world! Hit me up with any questions and enjoy the journey!
Yeah, keep 'em comin'. No pretense!
Thanks Bruce!! Really appreciate it.
Very helpful video, I wish I saw this a year ago. I really like the idea of having a defect kit so I can compare different flaws in the same coffee.
Sorry to say my local roaster is garbage. I thought I was doing something wrong until I figured out it was actually stale. They don't even put the roast date on their bags!
Cool Citroën 2CV. Such a cleverly designed car with a really interesting history. iirc they hid the prototype from the Nazis.
Edit: they actually have one, it's shown on their site. I hope it's still there and running.
Ya the defect kit was a nice thing to learn with! Highly recommend it.
I have a tip for everyone! I went to a local roaster and just told them that i wanted to try cupping, and i asked for some bean samples (I also bought a couple bags that I was interested in most). They gave me 4 samples with around 80-100 grams each. So ask your local roaster! They will probably help you out! So I did my first cupping and I followed your method. I didnt know what I was doing very much, but it was such an interesting experience. I learned how vastly different coffee can smell and taste, and how much I preferred one coffee to another. I wanted to ask if anyone else had trouble discerning tastes between darker roasts. I found that they mostly tasted just smelled/tasted very carbony... So i bought some light roast from another roaster to try tomorrow. Good luck everyone!
This is so cool!! Ya, some roasters are nice and will share knowledge and stuff and if you can find one that’s awesome. I agree darker coffees are harder to cup because after a certain point you roast all of the “notes” that might be detected in the coffee out and replace the notes with carbon, roasty, bitter flavors. The further you get passed second crack the similar all the coffees are going to taste no matter the quality or origin. Light roasts (and even well roasted medium roasts) will have more of the fruity/floral/chocolate notes that people talk about. I rarely roast passed medium unless somebody else is drinking it and wants it that way.
Super cool they were able to hook you up like that though!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I know! Im so happy that they did. And that makes sense about the coffee roast level. I wrote "roasted" on one of my notes, "toasty" on another and "hard to discern but carbony" on another one! 😂🤣😂
Talk about building an audience, because now you have a fan from Kurdistan region of Iraq!
You are an amazing content creater 👏
Thank you so much buddy! I truly appreciate that. Been trying to improve everything and that is really good to hear. Thanks for watching and stay safe over there my friend!
Thanks for this tutorial man! Your videos are extremely helpful, I have binged a lot of them. I am opening a small café soon and I am still trying to decide if I should begin roasting my own coffee right away or go wholesale instead just to get the ball rolling. I have worked in coffee for about 3 years, but I have no experience when it comes to roasting :'( Trying to learn all I can rn!!
Thanks so much for watching! I truly appreciate it the feedback! Ya that would be a tough decision. It’s nice as a customer to support someone that is roasting there own coffee as you have control over what is going out to them but cost wise it would be much easier to get it wholesale from a local roaster in the beginning. You wouldn’t have a ton of money sunk in a roaster and all that goes along with it. That way you can use that capital to expand and have if needed in the beginning. Once you get established and money is coming in this possibly get a roaster and add to your offerings. Where you from Travis?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Yeah that totally makes sense. I think I am going to take your advice and go wholesale to start. Would love to roast in the future though for sure! I'm from the bay area in California. I actually saw that you might be moving out this direction? Lemme know if you need any CA traveling tips!
Haha no I was just visiting. My wife’s family is from LA. We just got back home yesterday. I’ve been to San Fran a few times but it’s been years back. I imagine the coffee seen there is pretty big. Best of luck buddy and keep me posted on your progress. Rooting for you!
Cupping is one of my favorite parts of roasting coffee.
yes indeed. It's where you get to check yourself and realize you still have some work to do! haha. Thanks so much for watching my friend.
If slurp then only in the rhythm of the coffee ... Slurp rap I like it 👍👍😂😘
Haha yes indeed! I figure I would have some fun with that during the edit. Got super annoying editing that section though. Lol I still can’t stand that sound! Haha Thanks so much for watching my friend!
great video! why don't you have 500,000 subs? You should!
Haha thanks so much my friend! Hopefully I will get there one day. Currently building out a little studio to dedicate more time and get consistent. Reaching 500k will take more effort than I have been giving but we are about to change that. Thanks again my friend!
Wowww this is nice bro
Thank you! I appreciate you watching it. Hit me up if you have any questions. Hope all has been well!
Ovcos man thought it was gonna be something big buh you just simplified everything y'all
Ya I found out long ago the only way i am going to take the time to do it is if I simplify the hell out of it. There’s like a 1000 rules when you start reading through it all. Lol
Great video
Thanks my friend! I truly appreciate you watching! Stay safe and have a great weekend!
Your welcome and thanks for good content bc ppl who loves a good cup of coffee appreciates your videos.
Glad to hear buddy! Going to try and keep them coming.
Meow I want to get to roasting! My recent amazing roast was a Colombian Gesha. Epic! And far more affordable than the Panama
I actually don’t think I have tried a Panama. Love some Columbia and I really like the Geshas too. WhTs your favorite coffee so far. Mine is actually a Burundi roaster light.
Burundi is an amazing one. I wrote about it last month since their president died. Its hard to put a finger on the best one, but I just got a sample from olam coffee trader of Vietnam Monsooned. It was epic and very affordable. The scent blows you away. I love amazing coffees that are reasonable in price. The Columbia Gesha has been amazing too. Oh and there was a Brazilian yellow catuai that I roasted from Cafe Kreyol, it tasted like a bag of Skittles a rainbow of flavors.
thetravelingshepherd.com/know-your-beans/2020/6/9/burundi-east-africa
Very good read man! I did not know all of that about Burundi. Going to have to catch up on your other articles. These are great!
Dad gummit! More meow game happening! :-)
Yes bro. SLURP MAS
Haha thanks so much for watching buddy! I slurped enough in that video to last a year! Lol hope all has been well my friend!
Can you add flavors during the roasting process? Or flavor your beans after roasting?
You can do it both ways. I would suggest afterwards so as not to get a flavor all in your roaster. It would be a pain to clean it out every time if changing flavors.
I have green coffee here in Chiapas México.
Do you own a farm down there?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee yes and i'm looking for a importer from US
Got ya. I mostly just home roast. Hit me up at coffeerunsdeep@gmail.com as I have a podcast where I interview coffee roasters and farmers. Would live to chat.
Hey Rob, what does the baked coffee taste to you? What's your favorite roast, or the one you liked to roast the most? Cheers
Have you ever tasted a flat coke? That is what baked coffee taste like to me. The snap just is not there and there is almost like a bread taste. At least that is how it tastes to me. When I taste a perfectly roasted Kenyan that has some good acidic notes it just has a pop to it that baked coffee does not. Hope that helps explain it some. One of my favorite coffees is from Burundi. I love the African coffees probably the best at the moment. Kenya Ethiopia definitely rank up there for me. What about you?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee ahah don't drink coke really, but I got your point, thanks. African beans are clearly great, very floral and fruity, I even like dark roasts to be honest, in general if coffee is fresh and nicely roasted it tastes delicious no matter what 👌
I like dark roast if I am mixing with creamer and a sweetener because it gives it that chocolate li me taste. But if I am drinking it straight then definitely a lighter roast.
Dood, are you seriously playing the Meow game at 6:44??? LOL 2FF.
Lol what is the meow game? Never heard of it.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee yep, jumping around all nimbly pimbly from tree to tree. :-)
Haha that’s hilarious! Thanks for watching buddy! Means a lot!
I usually chase each taste test with a donut.
Is there a way I can speak with you. I got a coffee shop I rebuilt after COVID for 25 years now. I rock your teaching! Can we talk ? Because I need to overcome this crap that is bringing coffee shops down. I need to roast coffee not. Peace Gwar Emmery
Sure buddy! email me at info@cedarotacoffee.com. I have trouble talking on the phone with my schedule and kids so emailing late at night is usually my best method. Send me your number via email.
Glad o found you!! From Vancouver Island Canada
*glad I
Well that makes two of us brother! Glad to have found you back! Lol I haven’t been on that side of Canada yet but one day I plan to get up that way. Truly appreciate you checking out my video and hit me up with any questions.
Be my friend i want to learn everything 🌿
Haha me too! I’m a friend to all. Hopefully we can all learn together!
Rob, enjoyed the video. But tell us about the slurping! I see everyone that is cupping is doing this slurping thing. Don't ever do that when I'm testing wine, why do with coffee? Thanks man.
The slurping is just a way of getting the coffee to spread across your entire pallet. The front of your tongue has different taste sensors than the back and sides. I do not know much about wine tasting but now I wonder why they don’t do that as well. I am actually going to read into this one some. Kind of curious now. Thanks for watching my friend. I will see what I can find!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee I am going with that the industry does it to just show that they are pro. I can see swishing it around and working the whole pallette, but I doubt much different than other tasting like wine. I hope no offense! Just curious and looking for some validation before I start slurping and my friends give me a hard time!)
Hah I hear that. I agree it sounds pretty stupid and in the beginning I was like no way Jose I ant doing that stupid stuff. Lol I mostly cup alone so it doesn’t bother me. I am actually going to do an experiment next time I cup and see if I get the same tastes from sipping/slurping.
You should do it with wine also. Helps aerate the liquid and brings out more flavors.
How much does the defect kit usually cost? Website says it is sold out right now
Just looked at my email confirmation from May and it was 45 dollars plus 3 dollars shipping. It’s 100 grams of coffee per bag so you roughly get 11 cuppings if you use around 9 ounces each time. It’s expensive for sure but they send the profiles and stuff too explaining everything.
Personally for me it was worth it in the beginning! Would not waste money on it now unless I’m making a video or something obviously. Hope that helps. They will email you when they do them again if you sign up.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee Cool, might try it sometime. I have some roasts I bought recently I am going to try cupping today! Thanks for the video covering this topic!
Not a problem buddy! I enjoyed making it. Hit me up with any questions and have fun!
Black Rifle Coffee CO. please. PLEASE TASTE IT... PLEASE SHARE!
I love those guys! Listened to the owner (Evan) on Joe Rogans podcast and found a new liking for those guys. Big hearts they have. They are game changers for sure.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee best coffee IMO
It’s good for sure! I do like some other specialty places better but I just love Evan’s message and the amount of charity and help he does. Hands down have to support him for that.
Loved the Folgers puke
Ya, Folgers will do it to ya! Lol thanks for watching my friend!
Hey bro! I gott a question. So i've seen some dudes just spit the coffee out of their mouths while cupping? Is that leggit? And would you recommend that for a begginer? What are your thought - thanks a Lot for your answers.
Great question man! Many of those professional cupped or “Q graders” really taste so much coffee during the day that they spit it out so they don’t overload on caffeine. If you are just doing a few samples then I would not worry about it. If I was cupping 20 samples late in the afternoon I would probably opt to spit it out. But professionals who cup all day will most likely always spit it out because of caffeine overload.
That was prety quick! Apreciate it much, thank you!
No problem buddy!!
What %is the underdeveloped coffee?
It was not much. I don’t have the Data now. It was pretty minor on the graph and end temp/time. Crazy how the slightest differences change things though.
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee i jus started as a roaster and it is amazing. Slightest changes makes huge difference. Geeat channel. Thank you
Yes indeed brother! Hope the roasting journey is going good!
What's the taste of that baked coffee?
The best way I can explain it is like this. Have you ever tasted a flat coke? Where the fizz is gone and it just tastes bland. That to me is what baked coffee tastes like. There is no snap to it.
Ahh so a boring taste... I just red Scott Rao's article about roasting and their is a part of baked beans..most likely, beans that wasnt able to reach furst crack in long period of time... I will roast it and compare
Definitely experiment and see what you think. Have you got Scott’s new book yet?
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee yes indeed! not yet, I would too.. i just red it online... just recently got an ebook of James Hoffman world of coffee 2nd ed..
Nice. I picked it up a week or so back but haven't had a chance to dive into it yet.
Just listening to this without watching, you sound like Scarface getting it in! lol
Getting it in? Hope thats a good thing. lol thanks so much for watching my friend!
So much for paid segments by Folgers!...LOL ;)
Ya I believe I may have discouraged that relationship a bit! Lol but I have to keep it honest... haha
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee LOL...indeed bro, best way to do it!
So, it's the SPOON that makes you legit eh? 🤔😉
Haha not at all. You can use any spoon. Heck the one in the pic is actually a measuring spoon! Lol angled right nobody notices. Haha Thanks so much for checking it out my fiend! Truly appreciate it!
“Not so much that I’m even in business anymore.”
Have you completely given up the roasting business now?
No I’m going to start back. I am trying to move at the moment and pay some things down. I want to have a better chance at growing when I do crank back up. In the meantime I’m doing things like this and building an audience. Going to work on the website and try and get all that type of stuff worked out so I can eventually get to rolling again. If I can consolidate down enough I may see if I can partner and buy a small coffee shop/roastery to operate out of.
Cant watch the glitches it’s annoying
What is glitching? Sorry for the quality my friend.
No mate. fake friends are not good at all they hurt you. Coffee doesn't
Haha yes indeed! Coffee is always there for us. Like a trusty old hound!
interesting but just too hipster to me
What happened to your business?
My roaster broke and I moved last year so I had to shut it down for a bit. Covid hit and I decided to keep it down until I figured out what was going to happen. I am hoping to get the roastery back up next month. Been a chore getting the building set back up. I have a vlog coming out this week that will explain it all. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee ok i just cought up with your channel, nice new place you have to call home, lots of room
It is indeed. My old house was like 10 feet from a major highway and the kids could never really go out. World of difference for them now. Thanks so much for checking out my videos buddy! Means a lot!
@@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee do you have a Facebook following ?
God please get the mic away from the glass you're banging on in your next cupping video. It's anti ASMR in my ears. :(
My most humble apologies for the poor experience. Thanks for watching!
You talk too much irrelevance,
Be brief
Roger that. Have a blessed day brother.