A case so mysterious it’s called America’s Dyatlov Pass
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- A terrible discovery is made inside of an abandoned cabin in the middle of the woods. To this day, no one understands why the cabin was left in that condition...
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Woke up this morning and decided to watch a “few” videos...it is now bedtime.
I'm in the middle of that same marathon session atm.
I’ve been doing this for the past week. Stopping to do little things then back into it. Lol. So addictive.
Word.
That’s gospel
@@-Enrico à
Mr ballen, i dont know if you know this, but you are one of the actual good youtubers who always get to the point. I mean its so rare to find a youtuber like you. Thank you for ur service and ty for making vids 🙏🙏🙏
seriously tho its so nice
him and mr. nightmare
@@kelleycrisci7025 agreed
Hey thanks man! I appreciate it!!!
Some of my favorite RUclips content, I won't be surprised if you hit a million Subs before the end of the year :-) I've seen the subs on this channel double and just the last for 4 months... Keep up the great work Mr Ballin
Both my son and older brother were mentally impaired. While high functioning in some areas, in other ways they would cling to irrational ideas. This is such a sad story. Thank you for telling it so respectfully.
Some people can be high functioning but have an undiagnosed brain injury. I had one from a car accident. I finally found my way to a neuropsychologist who gave me an entire day of testing. A neuropsychologist can quantify what the high and low functioning areas are and if there is anything that can be done to help. It also helps you understand the gap between high function and low function, and that can be a real comfort. I didn't have irrational ideas, but I had memory problems and some other cognitive struggles that took years to overcome. If they haven't been tested, maybe it could benefit them. Insurance may cover the testing.
You dont need to be "mentally impaired" to make irrational decisions.
I'm autistic and have ADHD and I can confirm this. I, like one of the 5, am able to drive. But, in my mind, I can't draw out a map, I can't remember directions, and can't listen to directions from an app and drive at the same time. The only way I can even make use of my ability to drive is if someone is in the passenger seat directing me on where to go. It's nearly pointless, but I'm proud of it anyway.
@@MikadoYuma as well you should be. Good for you 👍
@@MikadoYuma ❤ I feel ya all the way on this. I’m autistic with the ADHD bonus too & driving’s fine but I can’t do directions, maps, apps etc.
I can do lists though.😂 So, now I write things out like that. Eg:
Take exit X
Turn left into 5th street on left: Y avenue
I usually have to stop & check each task as I go so it takes me a while to get places but I (mostly) get there ok.
Lol. I'm an Army vet, and I truly get lost on John's stories so much that it's part of my night time routine instead of my books, and many a sleepless night is truly fulfilled after learning everything through stories. Thank you John for being a boss story teller. Don't ever stop!
No u arent
@@yungbake2161 why isn't he?
@@kristinwojtowich8902 he’s my uncle. He has a terrible habit of stolen valor. He’s been caught in his dad old army uniform in public countless times. He is on several stolen valor compilations on RUclips actually
Not sure why you’d say Lol?
so ur a serial killer?
I showed my 82 year old Mom this channel. She is hooked! She said she wished he would read audiobooks because his voice is so relaxing. I do, too!
I agree. He's perfect for it.
Your grandma has good taste!
And he describes everything so well, right. I actually don't watch his video's, I listen to them. Your mom's audio book Idea is actually a very freaken brilliant option.
Agreed, I am Australian and find his accent and tone voice perfect for what he does, and audiobooks would be great, some I cannot listen to.
And now so do I! I wonder if he ever considered it.
Found Mrballen by accident and now for the past 3 days it's all I have watched! Also I now have a fear of camping, skiing, diving, and the list goes on!
Not to mention CAVES...
How do you think I feel, I live in an old cabin in the forest-with lots of windows!
Welcome to the club
@@terrybaldridge8730 atleast u have good Wi-Fi
lol
Had to play this video twice. I recall you telling a story about a family that somehow had a shared psychosis with the parents and their kids (older teens/young adults) all driving somewhere for days and friends and family couldn’t reach them. At some point the kids had separately left their parents and just began riding and hitchhiking back home. The parents however, were finally found but none of the family members could say why they left or where they were going, but after it was later determined the family suffered from a shared mental psychosis possibly brought on by the father or both parents.
I think the same happened with these guys in this story. Considering the ringleader of the group was schizophrenic and apparently had a role of leadership, his psychosis could’ve easily spread to the driver who may have had the lowest IQ of the bunch, leading him to drive 70miles out the way. The others of the group may have reacted much like the children from the previous story and as they snapped out of the psychosis, had chosen to walk back to town but the weather was too harsh. As for Ted, he might have had a better understanding of the weather conditions and hoped they’d be rescued but his psychosis and perhaps being left by his ‘brothers’ might have brought on a deep depression, causing him not to want to move as he realized after some days they had not returned and no rescue for him had been made, so in a way he committed suicide. As for Gary, without his medication he could be anywhere but I doubt he killed his friends and I think his body just hasn’t been found.
That's one way of looking at it, but to go 13 weeks with no food and freezing cold knowing that you have everything you could need to survive at your feet and not use it just doesn't make sense, because that would of been torture, something very sinister had to have happen ,as sad as it I don't think anyone would ever know, unless the other one is found dead or alive maybe he holds the truth to what could of happen to them, I think this will be a mystery forever mystery forever, may they all RIP😥🙏
maybe they saw a ufo and followed it.
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
UFO! Seriously!?
it was amazing to me that i read your comment just two minutes after having figured that i might be the only person commenting whose gut tells me this could have resulted from a SHARED DELUSION. mental impairment leaves the barn door wide open for confusion to find its way in.
Rewatching the old videos is so cool because you see how much production has improved, along with his confidence and charismatic persona.
Literally discovered this channel a few days ago and I'm addicted, this channel is going to be huge without a doubt
Best thing about this is that a lot of these stories are already been told but somehow made it seem new....good sign that he will find am audiemce
Oh most definitely
I also just found and have been binge watching ever since, I've heard most these stories elsewhere but he gives more detail and better story telling
Watched them all in 2 days haha
Same
I think Mr. Ballen does such a great job not just telling the story but also maintaining a high level of respect
I agree. I subscribe to a few other murder/mystery channels and it drives me crazy how disrespectful some are. Mr. Ballen is always a class act!
@@thatswhatshesaid6326 Yeah, That Chapter and Bailey Sarian are super disrespectful. I get they are "sarcastic" in nature, but leave that for your friends, not poor victims
I think patronizing mr ballen is old news. Yeah we get it. He deserves it too
@@Ena48145 Omg I’m so glad you said Bailey Sarian!! At first I liked her contents, but the more I watched her I couldn’t take it. If that was one of my family members she was describing I would come unglued!!! Complete disrespect!
@@Dime_time333 I don’t think you know what that word means lol
My co-worker told me about Mr. Ballen a couple days ago. I've watched & listened to at least 50 stories already. I'm hooked. This story is super sad. Their families will forever be tortured, not knowing why this happened.
This happened 20 miles from me and I’ve never heard about it! Thank you!
Wow really, they didn't even put on the news or anything,
@@annefortes9345 nope, not that I saw, not one thing! Crazy, right??
I am from the area but was only a year old.
Do you live close to marysvil
Mistakenly clicking on this channel was, by far, the BEST mistake I've made in a very, VERY, long time!
Seriously, I've - willingly - sacrificed precious sleep to keep watching these videos ... and I am Direct Care Provider in the Covid-19 Unit, so you can imagine how exhausted I must get!
TOTALLY WORTH IT.
now that's amazing! not that you are losing sleep, but that you are a direct care provider in the covid-19 unit, thank you! also, very flattered you like the page!!
I myself must say thank you for doing what ya do!!! And the bravery of exposing yourself each day but know this you become those patients family and the one to bring comfort when all seems hopeless and lost and feeling forgotten.
💐
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THANK YOU for your good work!! You are a hero of 2020. I wish I could buy you a beer to go with these videos 🍻
Im watching this on my back porch at night and a deer or racoon just walked by the house. I almost jumped 5 feet.
Ha! I was watching 1 of his episodes, earbuds in, volume up, on my bed in my dark room. My door swung open, & my 11 year old came charging in- scared me so bad, I jumped & yelled... then had to go pick her up off the floor, where she was laughing hysterically at me🤣
Lol. You wet yourself?
Those are rookie numbers. 10 feet would have been impressive.
Hahaha! I'm jumpy too. Coworkers are always scaring the bejeezus out of me. I'm concentrating and have everything blocked out.
I can't wait to hear the MrBallen's story about the terrifying deer/raccoon hybrid monster
Mr ballen is legendary. I have been following him for years and he deserves all the good fortune that has come his way. He is a natural at storytelling, its as simple as that.
The occupants of the car didn't notice that the driver had taken a wrong turn after leaving the convenience store. After snacking and then probably dozing they woke up to find themselves in a totally unfamiliar area. There were probably hard words exchanged. That may have caused the group to split into bitter factions. When things get *too emotional* (anger, fear, blaming others/theirself) they get crazy.
why abandon the car?
And why hike for 20 miles in the dead of night
This is not what happened.
zachkoelzer755 because crazy doesn't make sense. He could have taken the keys.
Being found dead in the cold with no clothes on perfectly fits with hypothermia, it's called "paradoxical undressing" and happens at the final stages when people become irrational as their nerves become damaged and make them feel really, really hot.
What about the food laying around then smarty pants
@@bradholliday7251 i think the comment refers to the russian story mr ballen used to introduce the american one
@@huh968 ohhh gotcha 😂
He explains that in the original video covering that mystery mainly! However I think there were other things that made that less likely to be the reason they were unclothed - there was some strange shit as always 🤣
What an awful phenomenon to imagine though, really, the amount of pain that must involve....
How do you explain the 8 blankets wrapped around him?
I like how you don't seem to judge anyone. Just tell the story, and you tell it so nicely. I'm hooked on this channel, just found it 2 days ago. There's something about johns voice and style of telling a story, absolutely addictive.
he's a great story teller! he doesn't over sell it and hype it up with too much energy like alot of young RUclipsrs but he's not boring either he's right in that sweet spot in the middle.
yes for sure very good at using good detail's and super good at the story's so interesting I love them all
He is so good that he could read a dictionary and have me mesmerized
Its his cadence. He probably learned it from his grandfather.
Same and SAME!! Can’t stop watching- except the paranormal/ scary stuff...no way man.
I feel like a proud parent whenever i watch some of your older videos😹 with all of the changes and improvements to your channel, your storytelling has always remained absolutely flawless. I really hope you are as proud of yourself as i am with you❤️
What I would give to re-discover this channel again for the first time. I miss binge watching all the episodes trying to catch up
Love the name 😅
Wait long enough and all the videos will show unwatched. I am currently rewatching for the third time thanks to this phenomenon.
I really loved how you took the time to tell personal details about each of the 5 men. So many people would say they were mentally disabled and leave it at that as a possible reason for their disappearance. It’s a nice moment watching content like this and seeing the creator discuss their strengths and important roles / responsibilities that they had together.
I wish more people like you saw that value...
Yes I like that he threw in a second clip from "the ringer" very inspirational lmao
@@alexwattaul7237 That clip is from the movie " Along came polly"
MrBallen has a rare character. 1 of charm, personality, intelligence, athleticism and integrity. He coupled it all together to risk his life, in the prime of his life for his community and country. He didn’t just choose to go into a standard military role, although that would be honorable too, he chose 1 of the most high risk positions he could. Risk everything he had been gifted with to protect our democracy and promote democracy in countries where bad ppl have stolen it from the goods. People don’t realize just how incredible the character of a Navy Seal is, well unless the Like Button gets in the way.
I agree, I also noticed this. Really love Mrballen
who else has been binge watching mr ballen and discovered him over quarentine??
*Quarantine.
You likely pronounce it incorrectly IRL as well.
@@nexxusty okay teacher
@•CandyAppleCarmal• there's always that one huh... 🤦
@@oliviarose8307 there's always that one huh... 🤦
@@nexxusty um... really?
So it's normal to binge these? Asking for a friend 🤣🤣
@MrBallen I would LOVE to see this topic revisited with greater details (such as the man who claimed to be on the same road the night they disappeared) and expanded theories. Such a bizarre, unnerving story!
Now here is where the Bee articles are interesting:
The Bee was given permission to access the police records from the case as long as they did not photograph or take them out of the Yuba County Sheriff Office. They found information in the records that would indicate that it is possible that Gary Mathias was not as portrayed in the media after the disappearance. Here is the description they write in the article:
"These files, clips and interviews shape a disturbing image of Mathias. Billed in virtually all media reports at the time as another lost lamb caught out in the cold, Mathias was an aberration within the flock, a young man who did not belong with the others. He was violently schizophrenic and had a history of drug use, and wasn’t intellectually disabled like the others."
While all four of the others were close friends for multiple years, Mathias was new to the group. All five had met through the Gateway Projects which was an organization for the intellectually disabled, Mathias had just joined it the year prior while the other four had joined it years prior. The others had documented intellectual disabilities; for example, Ted Weiher who was found in the cabin was described to the Bee by his brother as lacking common sense, the brother mentions a story where he had to carry his brother out of their burning house because his brother refused to get up because he had to rest before work the next day.
Mathias, however, did not have any documented intellectual disabilities in the same way the other four did. He had been a football player in high school and served in the military following graduation. He did have a problem with drugs and was first put into a psychiatric facility during his sophomore year of high school after a bad hallucination trip. He would later be medically discharged from the military for paranoid schizophrenia.
After being discharged, he quickly went downhill. While being in jail, he called over a guard and punched him in the face. That same month, he was staying at his cousin’s home and the cousin’s wife was sleeping after taking medication for an illness. The cousin, after worrying why a bathroom break was taking so long, caught Mathias fondling his wife. After his cousin told him he was calling the police, he proceeded to tell his cousin that he wanted to return to jail.
He was later arrested a few months later for threating to stab a woman in the jaw and then telling the woman’s 3-year-old child that “I thought I’d kill you once, I guess I’ll have to do it again.”
Mathias also had a history of breaking out of facilities and walking long distances. After being arrested in Stockton at one point, he was sent to a psychiatric facility. He spent two days there before breaking out through a drainage pipe and walking/hitchhiking the 80 miles back home. At one point, he also left his home to go live with his grandmother in Northern Oregon. His mother begged him to return home yet he hung up the phone on her. He showed back up a few weeks later fifthly and claimed that he had walked from Portland, stealing milk off porches and eating dog food to stay alive on the 540 mile trip.
The final violent incident occurred a few weeks after his trip back home. He broke into the home of a local couple and the couple awoke to find Mathias standing in their bedroom. He told them that he was looking for a ring to return to Satan and that they also owed him rent money because the house was his.
After that incident, he supposedly straightened out. He joined the Gateway Projects and become friends with the four other men. Despite his seemingly 180 change, some still were wary of him. The Bee states the following:
"Following a 1978 interview with Mathias’ longtime acquaintance Janet Enzerra, Yuba County Sgt. James Black wrote that Mathias had repeatedly told Enzerra of a dream where he and several other people would disappear. Enzerra called Mathias “a very violent person, hurting several men seriously, and (said) that he also hates women,” according to Black’s interview notes."
Thank you so much for sharing this!
Thank u for taking the time to write all that out🙂
@@DD-oi3vh welcome but it was just copy and pasted
Wow 😮
THANKKKKKK YOU
We love an educated man that takes the time to actually elaborate on people’s disabilities instead of just labeling them without any background ! Never a dull moment with you Señor Ballen
Sorry but what's Señor means?
@@danny.55 It means Mister in English
@@leonkennedy9912 thankyou
@@danny.55 No problem 👍🏽
@@leonkennedy9912 senor means mister in Spanish, not English...
They should get that detective who figured out how the guy died in his hotel room to look at this case.
The detective that shot someone while sleepwalking?
I think the one that was shot by a stray bullet from the room next door.
What case was that?
@jenniferflanagan9558 - Understandably, I can’t remember, the title of that particular story, but perhaps if you go to his main YT page and click the search feature, using the word “Hotel“ it may pull up that way. Tell you what, I’m going to try that and maybe one other search identifier and if I find it I’ll come back here and let you know. It was a head scratcher for sure.
I know the case to which you refer, I saw a profile of the case on either The New Detectives or Forensic Files. Another case of an easily avoidable death, and being in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Such a shame.@@bobbiellison4315
I've heard this story for years and am no closer to having answers as I was the first time I heard it.
I think that just maybe they could of been held against their will, that would explain the fact that they was unable to try to help them selfs, but at some point whom ever holding them up had to of left so I don't understand why the guy found first didn't use the survival gear that was found with him , and why was he not with found with the others , I hope that some one knows the story behind Thier deaths if anyone was infact involved with Thier disappearance and ultimately their lives, this is a very sad case and I have herd of so many cases of strange disappearances case's and this is very puzzling, I can't imagine how Thier families must of felt, not knowing what happened to them, may they all RIP 🙏😥
it always trips me out when someone is found surrounded by survival supplies.
Yeah, but people trying to ration supplies may unknowingly succumb to hypothermia before using all their supplies, and once that sets in their nervous system loses normal function and people undress and do all sorts of weird things. I hear ya though.
His fingers might have been frostbit?
@@kirstenercole4328 good point
@@avocado7947 Not really.
@Ray J I'm aware 🦊💜
I like how respectfully you speak of these men and how you started the story off by telling us about each one and their interests. Great storytelling as always!
What do you expect him to do start calling them dumb?
@@jessecadorette1819 it's just nice that he calls them by name and gives them more personality, instead of just saying "ok so these guys are dead."
Jesse don't be an idiot
Love the username
Yes, Mr. B. is always respectful. That's one of the things that make his videos so enjoyable even when they are about tragic events. He's an excellent storyteller in every way.
It's wild that I'm still discovering old Mr.Ballen videos when he's the main content creator I always watch! I thought I had seen them all, yet here we are!
yep
He just has a way of telling stories that really draw you into them with tiny personal details. You almost feel like you know them a little bit so when the tragedy strikes you feel saddened by it.
Isn't it crazy seeing old MrBallen compared to new?
Like how here he just wants us to "Gently karate chop" the like button but later he evolves into requesting we commit war crimes on the like button.
yeah... i believe that at some point, he started taking reddit submissions from the fanbase and choosing his favorite submission as the winner@@Anarchristian_Beanz
I was introduced to your podcast by a friend and started watching your tube channel starting at 2yrs ago. Each video is so interesting and intriguing.
I believe between the mental disabilities and hypothermia that they didn't know what too do or it was paranoia from hypothermia that caused their deaths. As to why drive that far was the road conditions caused them to detour from the path or road they were on.
I dont skip the intros just cause I wanna hear my instructions for the like button
FACTS BRO 😂🤣😂!!! HE BE HAVING US F*CK WIT THT LIKE BUTTON'S WHOLE LIFE , LMFAOOO...
@@508boiii its genius really lol he secures a like by the time the intro is over
Oh my gosh, right!!! LOL!!
@@breezyvibe oh really? I never noticed
I always skip the intro!!! Till i see the Mr. Ballen on the screen (fastforward)
This is so incredibly bizarre and heartbreaking. I do have a theory, though:
Maybe the one with schizophrenia had a psychotic break, with delusions that they were being chased or followed, spooking the others. The driver, being easily influenced due to his disability, drove far away, then when the one having a psychotic break jumped out of the car, they all followed him, and didn't want to leave him there. Maybe they were all hiding out in the "camp" that he set up, but by the time the rest decided to leave for help, they were already weak, dehydrated, and suffering from the effects of hypothermia. The guys found outside must have gotten separated and died from exposure, while the guy in the trailer was already too mentally affected by the cold and lack of food, that he couldn't make sound decisions.
In all honesty this is the only theory that makes the most sense to me because there are a few factors that support it. Factor number one was the fact that there were rappers in the car which means they were relaxed enough to start snacking in the vehicle. The one with schizophrenia getting spooked plays out with the fact that they veered completely off the designated road to possibly try and lose whoever may have been following them. And once this happened and the one with schizophrenia got out I believe they all followed until they got separated two maybe three of them found the cabin and whatever happened to the last person we don't know. In any case still very very sad and I am heartbroken by the entire story. Once again Mr Ballen.... You have delivered a fantastic story that I will think about for a very long time because my youngest son has autism and now teaching him how to survive is the number one thing to do on my list!!!
It may be possible that Gary may have been off of his medications and it caused decompensation in his mental state. Him being the ring leader and the other 4 having lower functioning, they may have blindly followed all of his instructions. He may have survived just because he was somewhat the most functional out of the 5 before he wandered off to an unknown place still in a psychotic state. Who knows if he died by the elements or if something else happened.
Is it what you call shared psychosis? Like one person is paranoid or something and it affects those very close to him ..so they all act irrationally
@@rinikkdas9780 Who knows? It could’ve been shared delusion or it could’ve been Gary being psychotic all on his own with the others unable to tell and listening to his directions.
@@Misunao23 ugh I hate when there is no closure
I can't watch the podcast ones because for some reason I love watching him and explaining the story with his hands. Love you Mr ballen
Bonus part is the best thanks for sharing this with us ❤
Before ANY Mr. Ballen stories...
Doors & windows locked ✔️
Dogs been let out & in ✔️
Go to the bathroom ✔️
Ok, Roll it Mr. Ballen 😱
Wat about the ghosts and demons?
@@d1user Oh I'm always ready for ghosts and demons! I have a Rosary hanging up on every window. My Bible is on my night stand. Oh and I have holy water in a plastic Mother Mary, from the Vatican.
Ok, roll it Mr Ballen!
All lights on
Closets checked
Under the bed clear.
Roll it Ballen
sit in a salt circle lollllll
That’s funny. Funnier without the first line. :-)
Am I gonna watch this horror story late at night? Absolutely. Does it bother me that I live in yuba city? Absolutely.
Lol same😂😂
same
I'm watching in the morning, fukk that ! 😂
Im doing the same thing, just on a different night... sick 🔥
@Yellow Submarine // I want to be a submarine, too.
I live in Yuba City and this is the first time I hear this story. So excited to listen to it.
Best time to listen to his stories,lights off and in the dark 😊
I love the missing 411 series I’d love to hear more
More coming soon!!!
The movie is on Hulu to if you want to watch it all
I'm obsessed! I've read 9 of his books, watched both movies and his history Channel special.
MrBallen YES ITS MY FAVORITE
MrBallen lets go I’ve Benn here Spence 100k I think that’s when
I've seriously fallen in love with the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format ! Keep up the good work Mr. Ballen you are an artist painting a VERY creepy picture !
The story of “the boys” has always stuck with me. It was one of those cases I did my own research but obviously I’m not a detective so I’m like ??? I just can’t imagine what it’s like to be their loved ones 💔
Crazy to hear stories from places that are so close to me that I visit quite often.
I’m from the general area that this incident took place in. Every time I come across a different video or podcast about it I have to watch/listen. You did the story justice, Mr. Ballen. Great job, and thank you!
Hi :) what do you think happened? Or what does Your local community think ? X
I also live in Yuba City and I have never heard of this.
@@alexanderavelar6022 I hadn’t either until I went on a rabbit hole binge of the Dyatlov Pass incident a few years ago. Apparently, the Yuba City 5 story is sometimes called the “American Dyatlov Pass”.
I;m from around there too and never heard of this but also i’m 32 so maybe that’s why I think this happened long before my time.
I've lived in Yuba City for 44 years. Hardly anybody knows about this case. I don't know why.
I feel like others. I've heard this story many times. You are the 1st I've heard that have spoke of them respectfully. I do believe they kept driving out of fear. I heard that due to road conditions they were forced to stop driving. The only mystery I know of is why the man in the trailer didn't eat the food or start a fire for 13wks. My opinion from knowing similar young men, those things belonged to the "people/person" who "owned" the trailer & it would be like stealing.
I’ve heard that hypothermia can sometimes disorient the afflicted individual and cause confusion. Maybe that had something to do with it?
It Was Owned By The Forest Dept And Nobody Is Going To Starve Because They Think It Would Be Stealing Someone Or Something Was Chasing Them Probably The One They Never Found But Even That Is Strange He Would Have Been Seen Or Found By Now. I Feel So Sorry For Their Families.
Do we even have evidence that all 5 of them were at that trailer? It seems possible to me that only the guy found dead in the blankets and Matthias were in there. Since Matthias boots were in there but the dead guys feet were exposed, I wonder if matthias wrapped him up in those 8 blankets and stole his boots and then left? So then the one guy was trapped in blankets and couldn't access the food, Matthias maybe grabbed a couple cans and left, and the other 3 were never even in there? Just an idea
@@garymarko409 capital on every single word, nice
Bedtime Stories did a very respectful telling and goes deep into possible reasons for the boys disappearance and deaths. I think the altercation one of the boys had the basketball game might be the best solution. It's not perfect but is compelling.
Mr Ballin have a very caring respectful, and understanding spirit..the perfect person to tell these stories👏👏
my job requires a lot of driving around and these videos havce made my days so much easier
As a grandma of an autistic grandson, this story tugs at my heart especially hard! I can see it being a horrible conclusion of some very bad, albeit thought provoked, decisions, made by individuals, who simple did their best. And their best could not save them. My heart goes out to the families. Knowing they struggled for up to 13 weeks must heavy heavy on them! May they find peace and forgiveness! For I know they are blaming themselves, when they did nothing wrong! May God wrap them in love. And fund peace with this terrible tragedy
@Wee Mac How about you spare us your anti god crap? I bet my LIFE that you have made an OPINION about GOD with ZERO KNOWLEDGE! Such an IMPORTANT DECISION! NO OTHER DECISION COMES CLOSE TO IMPORTANCE. And yet, you callusly, IGNORANTLY, make a decision, BASED ON NOTHING! Good luck with that.
@Lord Oshawott Try to spread kindness, and you will surely be met with HATE. And not shocked at all, that it is an anti god message. Thank you for speaking up!
@Lord Oshawott And I dont push my belief on anyone else! As it should be! Not often you see someone stick up for another. For that I am thankful! Says a lot about who you are! :)
Imagine having a friend that tell stories like this during a smoke seesion
🙌
everyone around would end up coughing their lungs out forgetting to breath from being distracted to listening to his storytelling 😂
I just get high and watch these videos lol
@@tejashua6005 same here! 🙃🙌
Every other minute someone would take a hit and say "that’s fucked up" and then pass it on.
Thank you for such great storytelling!
MrBallen never fails to do justice and be respectful to those involved. I feel something or someone scared them. I believe they drove trying to get away from something or someone. Then they got out and ran most likely in different directions. Scared and confused by circumstances they never encountered before they perished.... Scared, alone and confused.
Still so weird that survival instinct didn’t kick in when you’re in a warm trailer with food and everything. Even if you’re in complete panic you would eventually try to get the heat going and see what there is to eat not just sit there and die for days 🤷♂️ Why can’t they use satellites and always film earth from space so we could see from a Birds Eye perspective everything, that would sure solve a lot of mysteries 😂
I would pay this man to tell me stories around the campfire in the woods.
New summer camp lol
Or in bell canyon
Or just play his videos
@@supjay3945 I have, probably over 100 videos by now.
However the idea of hearing the story in person while being out in the Wild would just make it that much better.
PS. You completely missed the point.
Seriously!
He needs to do a story on why everyone who watches his videos go missing from watching anything else.
My family have been looking for me for days.
Sshhh, I'm hiding..😁
Top 5 Mysteries: where'd everybody go?
I've managed to keep up with That Chapter too.
M lock up in my room for 1 week 🤣
@@ninaappelt9001 I'm the same; I started with That Chapter, then found MrBallen. Now these two channels are pretty much all I watch!
i try to leave as many likes & comments as i can & share it with my friends who like horror stuff, i've been a good slave to this channel & helping it grow
For this incident -- I think it's possible one got out to relieve himself, got lost and the others (one by one or maybe in pairs) went to look for him, each getting lost in turn. It would be interesting to know if it was a moonless night (how easily they could have become lost)?
Side note: Dead Mountain: The Untold True Story of the Dyatlov Pass Incident by Donnie Eichar is a great read.
A friend that makes phone calls for you, I believe that's a bestest friend of all time
Yeah, my youngest has a developmental disability and the phone is her nemesis. She's very high functioning like these lads, but a friend who makes phone calls for her would be a godsend.
I know. That part really warmed my heart.
Everybody else’s friend : ok I am calling 911
My friend : bruh this is a prank ain’t it... screw you
Me slowly dying.
Son of a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
My Darling Granddaughter has Asperger's Syndrome, on the Autism Spectrum, but she's more than a high achiever, straight A's when she tried attending high shill for two years, all AP classes, College Prep classes etc.; but, she was a target for the evil mean bitches there. So, I finished up as I'd started: I homeschooled her, and she graduated with honors!! She's now a year away from becoming an R.N., has had the same boyfriend for 1.5 years, a job at McDonald's for over a year (they're talking of promoting her), and she drives beautifully!! Her problem: talking on phones to strangers - for anything; I still have to make her doctor appointments for her, and she's 19.5 years old! My Baby Darling!!!!
Nikki Reigns very true ♥️
My boyfriend and I are addicted to your stories..sending love all the way from South Africa 💛
Lekker sister🙂👍💪. Such a fun channel
My best friend is from somalia and india . I know somalia is on the east coast and you and your bf are in south africa but I thought it was cool anyway. So yeah, hello from Buffalo, ny ✌️🌞🙏🌻 this channel is amazing!!!!!
Ayyy. Nkosi kakhulu!! Some local love
I have never been to Africa because I live in US sound like a fun trip but yeah this channel is awesome he a great story teller
"get you some food, something to drink.....you'll dig it, Lekker !"
Thank you for your service 🫡
His storie telling always keep me waiting on the next one
Here's my theory: The friend with Schizophrenia for some reason was driving (perhaps the main driver and the others were all tired and knocked out). As he was driving, he became paranoid that they were being followed (perhaps he felt fans from the opposing basketball team wanted to take revenge on them). He tried to get away in remote roads. Because the others were asleep, no one knew he was going 70 miles out of the way. When the others finally woke they wanted to know where they were and possibly panicked and a heated exchange ensued. The friend with Schizophrenia abruptly stopped the car and ran away with they keys. The other 4 didn't follow him immediately because it was too cold or because they thought he just needed fresh air. When he didn't return after 10 minutes or so, they went out to look for him. Someone suggested they splitted up into 2 groups, which eventually got them lost. 2 of them found the trailer the other 2 succumbed to the harsh elements. The 2 in the trailer spent their days searching for the others, and eventually found the shoes of the friend with Schizophrenia. They weren't aware of the food storage or perhaps couldn't turn on the propane (even the propane tank I have at home sometimes require fidgeting with before it starts, so it's not hard to believe they thought the propane was broken and gave up trying). One day the friend that was found wrapped up in the blankets got sick so the other friend wrapped him up to help him keep warm. The healthy friend left him in the trailer to look for help. When the healthy friend returned to the trailer, he discovered that his friend had died. Partially scared, partially in a state of panic, he desperately went out for help without the correct preparations and also succumbed to the elements. The friend with Schizophrenia was never found because he was the first to be killed and remains were eaten or taken away by predators.
Not bad. Tons of assuming but thats all you can do with the little evidence and you made everything fit with a rational reason. Pretty good. Its frustrating not actually knowing what really happened in all these weird cases but with weird circumstances and little evidence people come up with the craziest stuff when it actually turns out to be something very rational like your theory suggests
KeyserSoze26B.
I think that’s how a lot of things go. It’s not so complicated... No conspiracy shit
A little overly detailed, so you no doubt got a lot wrong.
However, in the overall spirit, I agree with you.
From what I heard Madruga was kind of the alpha of the group because he was the most adult and most independent.
I think he probably had a schizophrenic episode and he thought someone was after them, so he took them out there to hide. For the others it was likely a combination of they believed him, they felt loyal to him, or they simply didn't know how to get themselves out of the situation nor survive in that sort of unusual situation even though there were supplies available.
I don't think it was any kind of conspiracy. Just a tragedy.
Sold.
Definitely an awesome shit at figuring what occured in fact, now incanbonly picture that you're at least right about one guy driving while the others slept then awoke where he had wandered off to and had to figure out what to do maybe not knowing he'd gone to the trailer
My theory is maybe gary had a trigger or episode, causing him to be paranoid, and maybe he thought they were being followed. He would relay this to his friends, and since he was the leader of the group, they might have believed him without much question. In trying to get away, they might've gone up an unfamiliar way to throw their pursuers off their trail, and then go into the woods. Gary might not have started a fire if he believed it would give away their position, and it could account for the huge distance between the bodies if they just kept going because they still believed they were being followed. That's the best I can come up with.
Absolutely
great theory
Folie a deux or in this case it may be folie a cinq.
Best theory I've heard about this case!
I follow this, but as Ballen said, it was a straight shot. If you thought you were being followed why would you lead your pursuer straight to your shelter?
Keep 'em coming Mrballen. Love your style.
You leave us with many questions….
High functioning , mentally disturbed .
My heart swells with sadness when I hear stories of people living what seems to be a happy and engaging life with mental illness and sadly pass before being “recognized as innocent , simple loving and brilliant humans that they were “ .
With love from
Your Mom’s , Dad’s ,family and friends.
What’s so sad is the one young man literally stumbled on a saving grace in the middle of nowhere with snow storms! Food, heat, blankets, clothes, fire material ..: so very sad
I think he was dead already and gary put him there. but his mind playing tricks on him, so he fled from the shelter without using any of the suplys ...except for some blankets
But his body indicated he was alive for 3 months.
@@nbcboy20 hair grows on dead bodies. You know that right?
@@TheDsRequiem Actually, it doesn't. Skin tends to shrink on dead bodies, giving the impression of hair and nail growth, but nothing actually grows.
@@TheDsRequiem Of course it doesn't.
Some day he needs to do a video on his backstory with the Like button. He seems to have a lot of animosity towards it.
Right! One day the like button is going to get tired of all his #$%t and whup his butt🤣🤣🤣
lmaoooo I'm always in the comments asking what did the like button do to him 😹 the like button is going to prank him back one day 🥰😹😹😹
I've wondered about that too.
My theory is that Mr. Ballen is just much to creative to simply say "please smash the like button" like so many others do on RUclips.
They don’t get the like button gag 😳
Amazing delivery. I’m hooked!
Hi Mr. Ballen! I love that you treat the people in your stories with dignity and empathy. Love ya from Chevy Chase MD!
This is so heartbreaking. Imagining their last days, hours etc. A group of close friends who lived so simply a kindly, dying the horrible way they did....
It's not a good way to go, perhaps it could have been worse.
Hello fello Randy fan.
It would make a good movie though.
I'm sick, off work...almost 8pm here so perfect timing Mrballen... appreciate you 🙏
I appreciate you too!!
I hope you feel better soon. I love this Channel too! It pops up and I am like yessss!!
Feel better soon. God Bless.🙏🤗
Thanks everyone ☺
@Rory O'Donnell you'll be grand buddy, one will happen for you 👍
Aw, another video when MrBallen was so ambitious to say he’d upload multiple times a week. Love the content and wish there was more.
This is one of the stories that got me into the strange and mysterious
"It would turn out that it was death" has to be my all time favorite sentence ever spoken by Mr.Ballen himself.
We call that smell death at the coroners
Time stamp?
@@deprofundis3293 9:45
Haha yes
I'm born in raised in yuba City and how i have never heard this story is crazy! Especially in such a small town!
You had me at radioactive 😂 .
Storytelling at its absolute finest dude. Thank you.
Ballen really brings Dave Paulides’ research to life.
Paulides adds too much to his stories to try to make a plain old missing person story into something supernatural or alien or connected so all the conspiracy theorists jump on board and buy his books.
@@mircat28 Paulides never gives even a hint of what is doing it or whatever he may think.....I've seen him in interviews when the reporter even tries to make him tell what he thinks it is. But he refuses. He's never stated it was aliens, bigfoot, etc......
@@mircat28 Oh yeah? Please provide one link where Paulides gives his personal opinion on a missing person's case. Just one. I'll wait.
Paulides is a fraud on the paranormal woo circuit.
@@greenflagracing7067 Fake news
My new favorite RUclipsr and he's a vet that makes him even more awesome I love seeing fellow veterans succeed
Mr. Ballen is the best I been trying 2 find how they came up missing I'm glad u talking about it
You tell a bad story with just the right flair. TY. 🙏🏻❤️🇨🇦
Random friend: let’s have dinner
Me: I can’t I already have a date
RF: with whom?
Me: with the strange dark and mysterious
Delivered in story format!
How clever
LOL
@Sober Bear You know how it is when you start having dates with the Strange, Dark and Misterious delivered in story format, you want to do to it what Mr Ballen reccomends you do to the like button
MrBallen is not only a terrific Storyteller but the ultimate professional with sensitivity and decorum.
Love the stories you tell!!! Thank you so much
Live 20 minutes away from Yuba City, Ca so cool Mr.Baller got to tell the story
This story is both deeply mysterious and very tragic. The poor lads.
I've known of this case for a long time, and it's always intrigued me. After hearing Mrballen recreate the story tonight, however, it sent me into the deepest of rabbit holes. After substantial research and continuous clicks, the information became a lot more focused on Gary Mathias. Once there, one can read endless theories that circle around just him. Of everything I have come across, the most disturbing yet intriguing was the connection between Mathias and The Zodiac Killer. Without delving into specifics here, anyone who is interested can start just by comparing facial images between the two. That alone is enough for me to spend an entire night researching knowing I have a full day of work beginning in 3 hours lol.
Thank you for taking the time to put your research into the comment section for the rest of us to see! I really love True Crime mysteries and I have never heard about this one and would have never connected it to the Zodiac Killer! Now I’m going to research it all myself with all your helpful leads! I pray that you and your loved ones are staying happy and healthy 😁
Love from Texas ♥️🤠🌴
All five were mentally ill, the one in the military dress was the only one that wasn't as bad as the other four. David Paulides wrote about them in his books Missing 411, it was very sad what happened to these young men!!
@@robynsmith4164 please read my comments below
@@laurasyn820 please read my comments below
He does resemble the Zodiac sketch. The only problem is that the Zodiac murders were in '68 and '69. But Gary was only 25 years old when the group went missing in '78 which would have made him only about 15/16 years old during the Zodiac crimes. I don't think he would have had the intelligence/knowledge at that age to create the cipher message that the Zodiac did.
You left SO much information and context out of this case it’s crazy 😅
Yeah, i never hate on Mr. Ballen, but I've done somewhat research and have found many more details that could have been included. He has many 40 minute videos, so I don't know why he didn't make this one a 35 or so minute video
I didn't think I'd like this channel since I only listen to Bailey or Stephanie Soo when it comes to these stories but Mr. Ballen really made me binge watch 10 videos in one sitting. Great job and keep it up!
I lived my whole life in Yuba City and I NEVER heard about this story from anyone until long after I became an adult. It is almost like some older locals are hiding something about it.
Edit: I’ve been making game videos already, so PM me if you’re local to Yuba-Sutter and want to start a Facebook group for videos and stories about our towns mysteries!
Now that would take the "interesting" level up more than a few notches.
I as well grew up in yuba city with my mother being not of average smarts but you would figure that I would have heard the story at some point
Lived here myself for 15+ years never heard anyone ever mention it.
I grew up in yc my whole life to and never knew this
I’m from yc to never heard of it !!
There is something very strange about forests in the US, people disappear out of nowhere, and then pop up with strange circumstances 🤪 no camping trips for me!!!!!
Strange occurrences for sure, I lived in very rural woods for a year, like no service, sometimes don’t see people for months off a dirt road. It’s easy to get lost so that accounts for some but the unexplainable who knows.
You guys ever watch the movies DELIVERANCE?? Or the hills have eyes??🧐🤔
it's true but not just the US. These strange disappearances are happening world wide and many have the same strange similarities. Check out missing 411, David Paulidis if you haven't heard of him.
@@garystevens1044 The keyword there being 'movie'...as in fiction...as in made up.
There's nothing special about the forests of the US specifically.
You'll also find stories of mysterious disappearances in the wilderness of Canada, and Russia, and Australia, and Brazil, and any other place that has a large amount of sparsely populated wilderness.
The fact is that the wilderness is dangerous and even those with experience can have accidents or find themselves in unexpected bad situations.
Add to that the fact that a lot of people make stupid decisions when they go out into the wilderness.
In this case, it was likely the tragic combination of one friend's paranoia due to a schizophrenic episode who influenced his other friends who were intellectually disabled and easily influenced and simply didn't have the skills to survive in the wilderness in bad weather even in a relatively good situation.
There's alot of off the grid folks than you might think. Alot of the US is still uncivilized or populated even though the land is US territory it's not been expanded into yet. There's strong possibilities these areas are for off thr grid folks. Hell, even drug/human/animal trafficking exchange occur in both plain site and hidden or unexplored sites.
Love the fit Mr. B! Purple always one of my favs! 💜
You are an excellent story teller!! Keep it up! 👍🏻
Friend: What’s the best part of your day
Me: when I see mr ballen in my notifications
Thanks Bro!!!
MrBallen no problem love your channel
@@bigred57hemi exactly love the story telling and always look forward to see him in the notification
Can confirm
Agree!
Watched one episode by accident this morning around 6AM and now I am still watching and it is already 11:55AM… this is like listening to a very interesting story and the rest around you becomes your secondary things to do 😂
welcome
True
The group might've been coerced to drive there by some sadistic person, then they might've been hunted. Ted made it to the trailer, but might've been too exhausted to do anything, other than to wrap himself in blankets. He might've taken the shoes from Gary, who died first on the trail (frostbite on his feet is an indicator he needed better shoes). It is obvious that the group had separated at some point.
I love your stories Mr Ballen the way you tell them has kept me coming back for more! Now as for this mystery foul play must have been involved and the fact the one guy was never located makes me think perhaps he was the one that did everything. I wish their was a way to find out!
I'm listening to these videos while I clean my house.
Mr. Ballen has a very soothing voice that keeps me going as I trudge through the mess.
Thank you for the interesting stories to keep my brain occupied while I get rid of things!
Love your calm voice. Love your way of narrating.
omg! Me, too! I am disabled and it's really painful for me to clean house. It keeps my mind off of the pain and keeps me going. when I STOP, that's a different story, but I totally get your point.
@@loririsk I understand and feel for you about the pain, suffering from constant, excruciating pain for over 6 years now.
Cleaning is difficult and painful. You push yourself to do it in spite of the pain. Then you pay for that for the next couple of days as your pain levels increase exponentially!
Sending you blessings and prayers for some comfort and relief.
A gentle hug.❤
I just commented almost the same thing. I also added I’m hoping I don;t run out videos before I’m done or I probably won’t finish cause I get distracted watching RUclips videos but with mr. Ballen I can just listen and have a clear picture in my mind while cleaning.
I 👍 agree
My theory: Schizophenic leader, that was driving. May have thought they were being followed, so tried to escape. The random car happened to go the same way as them, so they raced down a random dirt road to escape, then jumped out of the car to hide in the woods. They split up so it would be harder to catch them, but all got lost.
most logical or he wanted to kill his friends most compelling ideas tbh
This seems the most probable so far. It would possibly explain why none of the heating resources were used because, perhaps in the leader's schizophrenic episode, he thought that whatever was chasing them might be able to find them by the heat signature created by fire or the gas heat.
Evidence around the scene of the car and the condition of the road indicates they weren't driving fast. In fact most reports of this case state that the car was in perfect condition and it would have to have been driven very slowly and carefully along the path they took. Very strange !
this sounds about right
Gary Mathias wasn’t the driver tho...I mean he Conceivably could’ve been but it wasn’t his vehicle
This is crazy. I was born in Yuba City and ive never heard of this story
Mr. Ballen, you would make one FABULOUS History teacher!! Hands down 🙌🙌💯👍👍
There's a lot of strangeness about this story, but it immediately sounds like the trailer was a relatively late discovery. As in, the bulk of what they endured (starvation, hypothermia, deaths of some) happened *before* finding the trailer. Then we're maybe talking about a couple of survivors in dire straits finding salvation, but not in time. Perhaps Gary was in better shape than the man who died in the trailer, and left to try and help someone else, but never returned; already dying, the man in the trailer was perhaps not lucid or didn't have the dexterity left to save himself.
you make a fantastically valid point here. hypothermia reduces consciousness and impairs critical thinking.
i can admit that i, myself, have suffered through dire circumstances, to my own detriment, only to realize at a much later time, that the solution had been right in front of me all along...
another thing that i only now considered is this... what if FEAR was a factor? maybe they had a predator waiting outside and they were afraid to open the door, unaware that a storm was on its way?
@@420gzuz That's also a good point. We intuitively see the elements as the biggest threat, because that was what ultimately killed them, but there might have been animals around, or even just the sound/fear of animals impacting their behaviour. And I don't remember reading that they had any flashlights or other light sources with them initially. For people unfamiliar with the woods, that would be a very disorienting and frightening experience at the best of times.
My first reaction to this story was similar: they maybe tried the dirt road thinking it was a shortcut, ran out of gas or had engine failure. Started walking but something scared them and they ran in the woods only to get lost. Or one got scared and the others ran after him to find him.
I was also thinking the cabin was discovered as they were already dying and unable to function after the adrenaline rush of finding "salvation". Some may have died earlier and the survivors disagreed on moving on or staying put.
A snow storm would make it easier to see at night but much harder to know if you are on an man made path.