Did they "Run to the Hills"? or did they consider it "Wasted Years"? Some parents get a little paranoid when their children discover good music... did they Develop a "Fear of the dark"? or was it the "Writing on the walls" that finally cracked their spirit?
after watching your aphotic video i went onto my 100 HC shadow minion necro and added it for the cooldown bonus immediately, i added aspect of shared misery to the build as well and found that EVERY SINGLE mob was perma stunned into unstoppable if they lived that long. not sure but sounds like with the aphotic bug and the iron maiden bug we might have an absolutely insane crowd control build possible. I did see a video where a guy was doing similar tests as you to demonstrate that the aspect of retribution was confirmed double dipping on damage, so may want to check into some how compiling all that into one build, just not sure what skills you use as the base for the build
These invisible fortify attacks to you can be dodged. Assimilation aspect and crowded sage aspect fortify you 10% and heal you 20% when you dodge. This scenario introduces a lot more instances for you to dodge that are self generated and also very low risk. I’m at ~80% dodge but even saying as low as 30% dodge that every third instance of fortify heals you 20% and fortifies you 10% sounds pretty good. If you have 3 skill points to place into gruesome mending for +30% healing from all sources, that 20% heal on dodge goes up to about 27%. This could be an essence battery addition with starlight “generate essence for every 20% life you heal”. Creating an instances to dodge yourself could power this while avoiding boss mechanics. I don’t build into this on my dodge build because I currently don’t want to purposely risk 20% chance of getting hit by boss just to get benefits from my dodge. These self generated instances could make that happen though!
@@R-E-D-U I experience the same thing with the dodge RNG. Even when I was as low as 30% dodge I felt like I was already dodging over 75% of the time. It feels amazing. As for the life on hit testing: I did throw on some life on hit gear last night before I logged off and didn't have any findings when hitting the training dummy. I removed dodge gear, went out in overworld , took some damage, put dodge gear back on, went to dummy, and activated bone storm. Life regenerated on hit, but no instances of Dodge occurred so that meant the life on hit isn't an invisible missile like some of the fortify instances are. That would have been insane if I could've done something with that.
I swear to God I found this while leveling and my friend thought I was crazy because I was constantly being slowed and we couldn't figure it out why until I took off the Blood Moon pants.
I found this out in s4 ptr and reported it in feedback already. If only we had a way to see what targets had what curses. I mean d3 and even d2 had it. Why are we regressing???
I have been running nick tews aphotic golem build most of the season with no issue, but when i fought lilith with my brother we were occasionally getting decripified and i couldnt figure out why. This might explain it
I haven't been following updates closely, can you still dodge blood orbs? Like this sounds like an evolution of that whole bug. Speaking of dodge, can you dodge this damage? Like there's those two aspects (heal and fortify) on dodge. Wonder if anything interesting can happen with that. Also man, didn't know the player could be unstoppable from repeated CC effects. Like do no enemies do it often enough that it ever comes up or is it just player inflicted CCs that count towards it? Hm, guess if you wanted to you could also get chill and freeze on yourself with bloodless scream (and the aspect for darkness iron maiden), so if there's anything anyone can think of based on chilling/freezing an enemy (or being chilled/frozen) there's that. Also you say the player is an elite, so that'd probably trigger aspect of the protector? I think only conceited aspect would care, so probably not useful.
I wonder if this is all tied to the minions being code as monsters? If the game designated them as monsters, our player would be an enemy (to those monsters). Either way it’s all weird lol
It seems D4 has been blessed by Jousis! Instead of fixing it the devs should embrace the possibilities and implement procs, casts and positive effects on the player doing sth weird to themselves ala PoE!
Sooo, Bonemages can oneshot other players with their last shot? Do we have now a broken bug in pvp like other classes all seasons before? Thats the Necro season, yaay😄
Tbh bone mages in pvp was basically broken they dont read the reduction at all compared to the rest which imo only fair if your fighting a barbarian who has more 100k hp since damn they tank my minions shot
Can I just say that these abstract modifiers aren’t just broken but thematically and conceptually bazaar. Why should a necro get barrier from its minion attacks.. it’s basically saying your skeles uber heal you, but healing should be managed and controlled through the caster’s own spells unless it is a blood minion. Otherwise it presents as lazy and even too complex to function.
This game is horribly designed within many aspects n I’m tired of us being unpaid testers. I actually support the franchise n have for YEARS but with that comes the ability imo to point out that this specific iteration is a disrespect to gamers. I feel that there r ppl working within the company making bank 💰 n being utterly useless. One example is whoever designed Pit bosses (after Tier 60). Ur channel alone has done more work for Necro than a full blown team of Blizzard employees ever can and that’s jarring. WE R TIRED OF PAYING COMPANIES TO BE BETA TESTERS! 🕺🏽
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When I was a kid, Iron Maiden stunned my parents a hell of a lot more than 1second. 👀
Did they "Run to the Hills"? or did they consider it "Wasted Years"?
Some parents get a little paranoid when their children discover good music... did they Develop a "Fear of the dark"? or was it the "Writing on the walls" that finally cracked their spirit?
after watching your aphotic video i went onto my 100 HC shadow minion necro and added it for the cooldown bonus immediately, i added aspect of shared misery to the build as well and found that EVERY SINGLE mob was perma stunned into unstoppable if they lived that long. not sure but sounds like with the aphotic bug and the iron maiden bug we might have an absolutely insane crowd control build possible. I did see a video where a guy was doing similar tests as you to demonstrate that the aspect of retribution was confirmed double dipping on damage, so may want to check into some how compiling all that into one build, just not sure what skills you use as the base for the build
These invisible fortify attacks to you can be dodged. Assimilation aspect and crowded sage aspect fortify you 10% and heal you 20% when you dodge. This scenario introduces a lot more instances for you to dodge that are self generated and also very low risk. I’m at ~80% dodge but even saying as low as 30% dodge that every third instance of fortify heals you 20% and fortifies you 10% sounds pretty good. If you have 3 skill points to place into gruesome mending for +30% healing from all sources, that 20% heal on dodge goes up to about 27%. This could be an essence battery addition with starlight “generate essence for every 20% life you heal”. Creating an instances to dodge yourself could power this while avoiding boss mechanics. I don’t build into this on my dodge build because I currently don’t want to purposely risk 20% chance of getting hit by boss just to get benefits from my dodge. These self generated instances could make that happen though!
@@R-E-D-U I experience the same thing with the dodge RNG. Even when I was as low as 30% dodge I felt like I was already dodging over 75% of the time. It feels amazing. As for the life on hit testing: I did throw on some life on hit gear last night before I logged off and didn't have any findings when hitting the training dummy. I removed dodge gear, went out in overworld , took some damage, put dodge gear back on, went to dummy, and activated bone storm. Life regenerated on hit, but no instances of Dodge occurred so that meant the life on hit isn't an invisible missile like some of the fortify instances are. That would have been insane if I could've done something with that.
well I now understand how I possibly managed to get the "you were killed by yourself" death message on my HC necro while leveling
I get that all the time😳
Nope I've had that message in multiple different classes. You get killed by some bullsht and even the game doesn't know what killed you...
Holy Spaghetti Code
Any interesting possibility with Temerity and life on hit? Some reverse whammy giving super barrier?
this has given me the idea to try this out with a thorns build
Any weird interaction with the Exploiter's Aspect ? (40% increased damage to unstoppable ennemies, and 20% more CC duration)
That explains why my necro was constantly getting slowed. I could not for the life of figure that out!
That is just wild. And wildly entertaining. To watch. It's horrible that it's in the game.
Does it trigger thorns and the subsequent thorns trigger needle flare aspect? Because that would be awesome!!
That's was fixed from the PTR, sadly.
Have you tried Needleflare getting triggered? remember when that was crazy broken thanks to minion reflect like Holy bolts elixer?
I swear to God I found this while leveling and my friend thought I was crazy because I was constantly being slowed and we couldn't figure it out why until I took off the Blood Moon pants.
I found this out in s4 ptr and reported it in feedback already. If only we had a way to see what targets had what curses. I mean d3 and even d2 had it. Why are we regressing???
You can see the curse on the target, Decrepify slows being its only indicator is the bad part.
I was thinking the same thing, I quite like the different curses indicator in D3
I have been running nick tews aphotic golem build most of the season with no issue, but when i fought lilith with my brother we were occasionally getting decripified and i couldnt figure out why. This might explain it
Immortal fire mage was farming my Barb, It was just impossible for me to finish the quest 😞🤷🏾
how long did the unstoppable last for?
Would the Retribution stunning mages come from the same source as minions counting as pit progress?
How do "damage to elite" or resistance to damage from elites affect this?
I haven't been following updates closely, can you still dodge blood orbs? Like this sounds like an evolution of that whole bug. Speaking of dodge, can you dodge this damage? Like there's those two aspects (heal and fortify) on dodge. Wonder if anything interesting can happen with that.
Also man, didn't know the player could be unstoppable from repeated CC effects. Like do no enemies do it often enough that it ever comes up or is it just player inflicted CCs that count towards it?
Hm, guess if you wanted to you could also get chill and freeze on yourself with bloodless scream (and the aspect for darkness iron maiden), so if there's anything anyone can think of based on chilling/freezing an enemy (or being chilled/frozen) there's that.
Also you say the player is an elite, so that'd probably trigger aspect of the protector? I think only conceited aspect would care, so probably not useful.
You know no one uses the 2nd bone mage upgrade when such a weird bug is still present. They could not only fix this but actually rework this upgrade.
So... you can have a thorn build that doesn't rely on boss hitting you, but you hitting yourself triggering thorn AOE?
Maybe it can be used to trigger Starlight Aspect consistently?
Will you doing damage to yourself trigger thorns and do MORE damage to yourself??? (Infinite loop???)
Still testing if it procs needleflare
I wonder if this is all tied to the minions being code as monsters? If the game designated them as monsters, our player would be an enemy (to those monsters). Either way it’s all weird lol
Huh I'm guessing this explains the needleflare and bone mages bug I guess?
Does it trigger thorn????
Does anybody know if "Aspect of the Damned" was fixed with patch 1.4.2?
It doesn't work for minions, if that's the question
Is this the beginning of "Self Curse" builds?
Ive been seeing in the text in the corner saying i killed myself...
Is there any legitimate reason to use bone mages anyway? Annoying to manage unless you have Sac Soul, and even then.
Nope
Would thorns react to that in some way?
I was thinking the same thing, Needleflare maybe?
D4 has Poe’s features as bugs LuL
It seems D4 has been blessed by Jousis! Instead of fixing it the devs should embrace the possibilities and implement procs, casts and positive effects on the player doing sth weird to themselves ala PoE!
Spaghetti code strikes again!
Necro seems to be more buggy than the other classes... Which is a shame
AAA gaming in this era
This level of spaghetti code is embarrassing on Blizzard's part
Sooo, Bonemages can oneshot other players with their last shot? Do we have now a broken bug in pvp like other classes all seasons before?
Thats the Necro season, yaay😄
Tbh bone mages in pvp was basically broken they dont read the reduction at all compared to the rest which imo only fair if your fighting a barbarian who has more 100k hp since damn they tank my minions shot
This is crazy 😂
Holy...😮
Right!?!? How do we exploit the shit out of this some how?? LMAO
Imagine if you played Barb a lot.. I am so curious what bugs you might find :)
Thorns
Well you know what they say about Soviet Russia....
Can I just say that these abstract modifiers aren’t just broken but thematically and conceptually bazaar. Why should a necro get barrier from its minion attacks.. it’s basically saying your skeles uber heal you, but healing should be managed and controlled through the caster’s own spells unless it is a blood minion. Otherwise it presents as lazy and even too complex to function.
Wow bliz is so indie level dev it's just amazing (ok, fair, i saw better quality from indie devs)
This game is horribly designed within many aspects n I’m tired of us being unpaid testers. I actually support the franchise n have for YEARS but with that comes the ability imo to point out that this specific iteration is a disrespect to gamers. I feel that there r ppl working within the company making bank 💰 n being utterly useless. One example is whoever designed Pit bosses (after Tier 60). Ur channel alone has done more work for Necro than a full blown team of Blizzard employees ever can and that’s jarring. WE R TIRED OF PAYING COMPANIES TO BE BETA TESTERS! 🕺🏽
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I reported that bug in the forums on the 1 week of the season.
Do it