Dude. The way you describe the game and situations is pretty darn insightful. Man would I love for Jin's to have videos like these. I dont even play DJin and found myself watching the video. Good tech on the other end i guess!
Say what you will about Devil Jin and his heatsmash nerfs, but this looks a lot more fun to do than pressing heatsmash. I've always complained about how cool his heatdash options are, but his heatsmash was so good you usually couldnt justify not throwing it out. Now we get to explore this crazy oppressive shit, and I am a fan of it. It looks insane to deal with and super scary.
Other characters just have better tools right now. You'll understand as you get higher how weak his is to ssl and his range is terrible (apart from his gimmicks which are very punishable)
@@Zeridium I am already high rank and very much understand, I'm not sure what your point is here. It is more fun to play devil jin without pressing heatsmash because his other shit is cool as hell and stylish.
@@R1C4RD0R3D15 I guess I am coping a little bit cause I did like the heat smash a a lot but always knew it was unfair. In the end I still think he should get a little bit of a rework but I’m still going to play him regardless
Your vids are always helpful! can I ask a question that might be a nooby one. what is your mix up on MC 1block. I'm usually only doing steel petal or DB 2. hellsweep always gets launched I feel. Dont know if I'm doing something wrong.
So how do deal with his lack of range, his demon paw, hell sweep and jabs are all so damn short that you will be clipped before you can land one. Most of the roster can reliable hit him before he is in range.
Momo, we're here with you because we love DJ. I grew up on Tekken 3 (playing Jin). Since Tekken 5 till Tekken 8 I'm sticked only to DJ (DJ got the moves of Jin from Tekken 3). Even I made a Jin tattoo on my hand when I turned 18, 21 years ago 😉 I love Tekken 8, but I can't go out of blue rank (I stuck on Raijin) 🫣 This game now is so unpredictable and random... Anyway, DJ will stay my main even if they nerf him to keep only 1, 1, 2 😂
Devil Jin even before the patch was already hard to use unless you are a wave dasher and can pop up electrics at will. Still even at his strongest he won’t win tournaments. He is still fun to use though and winning with him being one of the handicapped characters makes it satisfying.😁
I've seen people use f2 online for a spike at the wall instead of b1+2. Is that nerfed as well, or still an option? I remember the spike not being techable compared to b1+2 iirc
nice vids, but could you please display the inputs , i have a hard time figuring out wich moves are what since my english understanding isnt that good and even when i understand i still hardly imagine what it is.
Nice video ma man But can u show the combos that u use in this situation I am pretty new to the game and isn’t fluent to English and it’s hard for me to get what combo u talking about after the launch
Will never stop playing DVJ, no matter what. Got the Devil Gene in my lwn DNA at this point lmao Do you think f2 or b1+2 are good options after a wallsplat to force oki? Like, spiking the enemy to lead into d1+2, b4 or any WD options
And lets not forget that DJ has another heat smash that can be pretty useful specially at the wall where they can’t backdash, so you can mix them with MC1+b4+db1+2 mixup
It’s official. Bottom 2 characters: Devil Jin, and Kazuya as THE worst. His left arm doesn’t even exist still lol. Oh, but let’s give leroy some broken shit. God damn devs.
@@TheUnique69able I’m a kaz main. Ive been saying he’s bottom tier along with DJ for a whole month now. Now after this patch, it’s official. They’re the 2 worst in the game.
Hey Momo-Dog, would you personally consider DJ the worst of the 4 Mishimas at this point? It's a shame that he got so many nerfs since the games release but that won't deter me from maining him. I have a feeling that if they just nerfed the heat smash first then people wouldn't have made such a huge deal that he was busted and he woulda kept more of his new identity in Tekken 8. Ultimately, I feel he is over-nerfed at this point.
@cenfre2866 depends how you look at it. Kaz has better range in almost all of his attacks compared to DVJ and alot of his heat moves also better. He has an unsellable laser low while in heat.
So where does DJ fall on a tier list after the nerfs? I feel like he might actually be a mid tier pick at this point, considering his weakness in FT2 and the work required to pilot him correctly.
I think they always overestimated DJ because of the heat smash. Honestly, I dont see anyone naming one single "over decent" tool DJ has. They always put him in S tier because his heat smash had the insane range. Anything else? He doesnt have gimmicky strings mixing mids and lows, most of them dont even track, all his evasive stuff is very punishable very easily. Pretty fair character in a game where no one is atm. Hopefully that will change.
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I could never drop my main. Loyal to Devil jim for life nerfs or no nerfs. Great advice and insight
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Dude. The way you describe the game and situations is pretty darn insightful. Man would I love for Jin's to have videos like these. I dont even play DJin and found myself watching the video. Good tech on the other end i guess!
Been playing DJ since T5, not going to stop now….they would have to remove his electric for me to switch
or his swag
Momodog never fails, thanks for the guide my guy
This helps A LOT, thanks momodog we appreciate this
Thanks for the video, Momodog. I absolutely love this characters design.
Now that DJ will remain the same for a while, perhaps a refreshed combo guide would be great momo
Many thanks, and keep up the great content
Current Mishima rankings:
Top - Jin & Reina
Bottom - Kaz and Dj
Say what you will about Devil Jin and his heatsmash nerfs, but this looks a lot more fun to do than pressing heatsmash. I've always complained about how cool his heatdash options are, but his heatsmash was so good you usually couldnt justify not throwing it out. Now we get to explore this crazy oppressive shit, and I am a fan of it. It looks insane to deal with and super scary.
Other characters just have better tools right now. You'll understand as you get higher how weak his is to ssl and his range is terrible (apart from his gimmicks which are very punishable)
@@Zeridium I am already high rank and very much understand, I'm not sure what your point is here. It is more fun to play devil jin without pressing heatsmash because his other shit is cool as hell and stylish.
We’re kinda coping so hard but I’m still gonna do it cause dvj the best, gonna have to just outskill these losers
@@kwasit1055 im not coping, I can go play another character whenever I want. I think he is fun and his other shit is cool.
@@R1C4RD0R3D15 I guess I am coping a little bit cause I did like the heat smash a a lot but always knew it was unfair. In the end I still think he should get a little bit of a rework but I’m still going to play him regardless
Your vids are always helpful! can I ask a question that might be a nooby one. what is your mix up on MC 1block. I'm usually only doing steel petal or DB 2. hellsweep always gets launched I feel. Dont know if I'm doing something wrong.
Mixup timings matter, if you're gonna hellsweep after MC1 you also have to present the threat of ws2 or similar
So how do deal with his lack of range, his demon paw, hell sweep and jabs are all so damn short that you will be clipped before you can land one. Most of the roster can reliable hit him before he is in range.
Im a pretty casual player so I dont really care if they nerf him to the ground, DJ is still THE character for me. Thanks for this insight Momo.
How do you perform against others around your rank?
Momo, we're here with you because we love DJ. I grew up on Tekken 3 (playing Jin). Since Tekken 5 till Tekken 8 I'm sticked only to DJ (DJ got the moves of Jin from Tekken 3). Even I made a Jin tattoo on my hand when I turned 18, 21 years ago 😉 I love Tekken 8, but I can't go out of blue rank (I stuck on Raijin) 🫣 This game now is so unpredictable and random... Anyway, DJ will stay my main even if they nerf him to keep only 1, 1, 2 😂
Devil Jin even before the patch was already hard to use unless you are a wave dasher and can pop up electrics at will. Still even at his strongest he won’t win tournaments. He is still fun to use though and winning with him being one of the handicapped characters makes it satisfying.😁
I've seen people use f2 online for a spike at the wall instead of b1+2. Is that nerfed as well, or still an option? I remember the spike not being techable compared to b1+2 iirc
nice vids, but could you please display the inputs , i have a hard time figuring out wich moves are what since my english understanding isnt that good and even when i understand i still hardly imagine what it is.
Nice video ma man
But can u show the combos that u use in this situation I am pretty new to the game and isn’t fluent to English and it’s hard for me to get what combo u talking about after the launch
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Will never stop playing DVJ, no matter what. Got the Devil Gene in my lwn DNA at this point lmao
Do you think f2 or b1+2 are good options after a wallsplat to force oki? Like, spiking the enemy to lead into d1+2, b4 or any WD options
Been playing jin from t3 and then deviljin from t5, not gonna stop playing him unless they remove him from tekken
Unless they fix the pokes and other moves,yeah, switch to Jin or Reina.
reina , jin is ass
We skeet again!😈
And lets not forget that DJ has another heat smash that can be pretty useful specially at the wall where they can’t backdash, so you can mix them with MC1+b4+db1+2 mixup
are you sure b4 actually gives you enough spacing for db1+2 from being punished?
Stay strong DJ mains!
Awesome video
You are the best. Thanks
It’s official. Bottom 2 characters: Devil Jin, and Kazuya as THE worst. His left arm doesn’t even exist still lol. Oh, but let’s give leroy some broken shit. God damn devs.
There's just no way you think djin is the second weakest character in the game
@@Sporkyz74 he is now. Whether you like it or not.
@@TheUnique69able I’m a kaz main. Ive been saying he’s bottom tier along with DJ for a whole month now. Now after this patch, it’s official. They’re the 2 worst in the game.
Do you happen to have the same name in the game? I think I played your Kazuya a few times in ranked
@@열정-e1k I do, yeah. Who did you play?
Hey Momo-Dog, would you personally consider DJ the worst of the 4 Mishimas at this point? It's a shame that he got so many nerfs since the games release but that won't deter me from maining him. I have a feeling that if they just nerfed the heat smash first then people wouldn't have made such a huge deal that he was busted and he woulda kept more of his new identity in Tekken 8. Ultimately, I feel he is over-nerfed at this point.
Doesn't matter who's worst
Kazuya still the worst mishima no question. I'd say DJ is #2 best mishima actually
@cenfre2866 depends how you look at it. Kaz has better range in almost all of his attacks compared to DVJ and alot of his heat moves also better. He has an unsellable laser low while in heat.
@@parallelparadox8627that laser can be used when they are grounded but I get what u mean
let's not
So where does DJ fall on a tier list after the nerfs?
I feel like he might actually be a mid tier pick at this point, considering his weakness in FT2 and the work required to pilot him correctly.
considering some of the buffs the other roster got also, I may even think him below mid maybe even bottom 10? idk maybe that's dramatic.
A lot lower then most people are willing to admit.
I think they always overestimated DJ because of the heat smash. Honestly, I dont see anyone naming one single "over decent" tool DJ has. They always put him in S tier because his heat smash had the insane range. Anything else? He doesnt have gimmicky strings mixing mids and lows, most of them dont even track, all his evasive stuff is very punishable very easily. Pretty fair character in a game where no one is atm. Hopefully that will change.
bottom 10
It doesn't matter where your character is on the tier list if he isn't top 5
man istg im rage quitting against feng and king with this nerfed dvj he has no range istg any kenpo or jaguar bs jump evades everything
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