I would so love the balance team of this game to sit in the office for a weekend and.. play it. Play twins for two days straight. I wonder what they'd say after
balance team? you think bhvr has a single person who works on game balance as their solitary job? i doubt theres even any whos PRIMARY job is game balance. balance changes are relegated to a one hour meeting held quarterly
Look at his hands, Victor ate too much jam before the match and now he’s slipping and sliding everywhere. Charlotte should really keep a closer eye on him.
@@mikhailjordanov5863 Even beginners don't play him. People have tried it, used a new account, escaped less than 50% of the time to not rise their MMR, Trappers were still a rare sight, most people buying this game take a licensed character with it to play a killer they know and like.
@@dearcastiel4667 started the game when it came out i played trapper first for long time then hag wrath and billy after that i started buying licenses i always hated nurse cheater character idk if its any important but i have little over 2k hours in the game
Going frame by frame at 0:07 is something: one frame Dwight fills the entire screen, the next frame pounce starts but no movement, next frame no Dwight (or hit) to be found. Very nice 🙃
Probably on his screen it looked fine. This was probably a server-client incongruity combined with weird hitboxes. Also, yeah, people are going to take advantage of anything they can lol
Survivors do like stomping on Victor, but my Twins matches are some of the most civil. Very few DC'S, and people generally nice in the lobby after. Maybe they just appreciate the novelty, but still.
@@PolishJoji Thatìs more a lag thing rather than hitboxes, the hitbox problem is a bigger problem when playing as him tho rather than against him, or to say it better, it's a much bigger problem there
Liked it because i hate survivor hitboxes and huntress large hatchet hitboxes but the collision is super small so she can basically get you around the corner or over obstacles it’s frustrating and unearned in my opinion
I still don't understand why they rushing chapter to chapter. Like wtf. Feels like Skull just came out and we are few days right before the next chapter. So many recycled Perks, so much shit perks. Instead of tweaking perks and killers, base kits, add ons etc. Just focus on that instead rushing chapter after chapter
To hide a tree, use a forest. New chapters are expected to be bugged and cause balance problems, they fix those after a long while, and pretend that other pre-existing issues dont exist.
This is the kind of thing that really makes me mad about that BHVR AMA. Twins were supposed to be worked on and fixed long ago, now we're waiting well over 6 months for it. Also them mentioning they have no plans for Trapper, the WORST killer in the game.
First time? lol The atrocious hits people get with Victor on survivors that are worse than huntress hatchets more than make up for this. Has nothing to do with Twins, everything to do with their shitty hitboxes and netcode.
Considering that Victor often enough flies past the Survivor (Victors visual model), not feeling sorry. In general, the more unplayable Twins are, the better. (Might change my opinion if they actually manage to rework Twins in a way that they dont require massive slugging OR that massive slugging is not their best strategy)
I LOVE THE TWINS. I still till this day dont get why ppl hate them? I rarely run into bugs, and its not like theyre super weak, bcs lets be honest, even killers like dredge, wraith, etc. struggle sometimes and they dont have any "problems"
Every gaming community shits on one piece of equipment/character in a game. People love to complain about something. Twins are fine and bugs are rare, they really don't need a rework as much as some other killers do.
I'll be honest, I don't think Twins will ever get a _major_ rework. There's just not enough people playing as them and openly enjoying them for BHVR to spend time and ressources on. At best they will get a big bug fix that will fix the hitboxes and fix the freeze glitch once and for all. BHVR makes balance changes and bug fixes based almost purely on stats, and Twins's pickrate explains why it's been several years and yet they are still a buggy mess that's unenjoyable to play as and against most of the time (it's also the reason why Merciless Storm and Lullaby took weeks to fix despite being bugged: before they broke and started to get exploited too much, not enough people used them to justify a quick fix. It's also why Wesker's hitbox post-PTB was fixed in record-time: everyone wanted to play Wesker and the chapter was one of the most successful to date). Sure insta-blinds were removed quickly, but that's because the lead dev got _humiliated_ by a team running insta-blinds on a show. Maybe that's the secret: make the devs play Twins against comp teams for a couple days, see how fast Twins gets fixed XD
@@daniellewis3098 The key difference here is that Freddy is a _licensed_ character and as such automatically more lucrative than most original chapters, especially the Twins's chapter (pretty sure tons of people didn't spend actual money on Twins and just got them for shards). They can't really afford to make a _licensed_ chapter basically unplayable and/or so unpopular that they don't get their money back.
As a Twins enjoyer, there was a moment Otz could have landed the hit about a second earlier. He hesitated when he did not need to. However, better to wait too long than to rush the strike.
I honestly hope Twins don't become better to play because idc about playing as them, but playing against them is miserable and I really don't want to see them more often
As a twins main I can guarantee that this was intentional nerf
I can’t believe I finally saw the comments of all Twins players in the world (Pixel Bush and you).
@@thevigilmain6628 out here forgetting Lynxi I see
@@thevigilmain6628I’m a twins main and will be makin more twins videos soon
As the other twins main I can agree, both of us believe it to be intentional
Third secret twins main agrees 100 % its intentional and sucks
I would so love the balance team of this game to sit in the office for a weekend and.. play it. Play twins for two days straight. I wonder what they'd say after
balance team? you think bhvr has a single person who works on game balance as their solitary job? i doubt theres even any whos PRIMARY job is game balance. balance changes are relegated to a one hour meeting held quarterly
I bet it would be like the removal of insta-blinds
dude they still haven't played the tutorial. what are you talking about
@@swordfishtrigger fair enough
They will not say anything, because I'm pretty sure they would be dead afterwards
Look at his hands, Victor ate too much jam before the match and now he’s slipping and sliding everywhere. Charlotte should really keep a closer eye on him.
Victor never did take a liking to his sugar free diet...
Theyll be fixed, right? Just like how Trapper is fine according to stats. Kopium
*INSERT ANAKIN PADME MEME*
Trapper makes sense tho .. he's the killer for beginners so i'm sure they don't want to make him stronger
@@mikhailjordanov5863 Even beginners don't play him.
People have tried it, used a new account, escaped less than 50% of the time to not rise their MMR, Trappers were still a rare sight, most people buying this game take a licensed character with it to play a killer they know and like.
@@dearcastiel4667 started the game when it came out i played trapper first for long time then hag wrath and billy after that i started buying licenses i always hated nurse cheater character idk if its any important but i have little over 2k hours in the game
Since i play the game i saw a total of maybe 5 twins and i play always when new dlc comes out and get all archivements/trophies
The two adrens is just the cherry on top for this awful situation ;-;
Those adrenaline’s were just a slap in face after that miss
F in the chat for the 2 twins mains
I am one
The other is above this comment
@@parpai4 I am the other one
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Going frame by frame at 0:07 is something: one frame Dwight fills the entire screen, the next frame pounce starts but no movement, next frame no Dwight (or hit) to be found. Very nice 🙃
remember when mathieu played hag against that team with a bunch of flashlights? how about we make him play twins for a day?
Last time I played killer my lobby had two Adrens as well. That shit is a buzzkill every time you see it, and you get to see it almost every match.
The worst part about this is how much extra time you took just to confirm that you really gonna hit Dwight and then this happened 😫
I never knew I needed a slow and low pitched Victor and Otz scream in my entirely life until this very moment
That adrenaline hurts my soul. Also the nerve of that guy to kick Victor despite 100% not deserving to dodge the hit
Probably on his screen it looked fine. This was probably a server-client incongruity combined with weird hitboxes. Also, yeah, people are going to take advantage of anything they can lol
I noticed when survivors face twins they play the scummiest way
Survivors do like stomping on Victor, but my Twins matches are some of the most civil. Very few DC'S, and people generally nice in the lobby after. Maybe they just appreciate the novelty, but still.
average Twin gameplay be like:
Bro had the better gaming chair. Obviously
It do be like that. It’s science.
And here I am getting a hit through a downed pallet with Victor. lol that Twins rework can't come fast enough.
Killer mains be like “Ah, yes- ‘Tuesday’.”
Love seeing the title of vid change within minutes
Thank God Twins have been nerfed so weaker killers like Blight and Insidious Bubba can have a chance to keep up
Maybe even nurse too. She's so slow and her power is not even that good
not the adrenalines
The day Huntress and Twins get their hitbox fixed is the day this game can truly finally shine.
Don't forget about Wesker
@@PolishJoji True, when I play as him there is always some bullshit that happens
@@DirtyDeedsDoneDirtCheapD4C pulling people back through windows or pallets is so dumb lmao
@@PolishJoji Thatìs more a lag thing rather than hitboxes, the hitbox problem is a bigger problem when playing as him tho rather than against him, or to say it better, it's a much bigger problem there
Liked it
because i hate survivor hitboxes and huntress large hatchet hitboxes but the collision is super small so she can basically get you around the corner or over obstacles it’s frustrating and unearned in my opinion
"why no one play the twins?"
Twins:
The twins are so buggy right now
It's funny how you think that it's right now. It's buggy till the release like wtf they doing
Wesker who's been bugged since the knight drop: 😭
@@alpha-tomahawk532 twins been in the game before wesker lol
@@The_GermanDude1998 I knew that they were always buggy but right now they are probably the worst when it comes to bugs
Had this happen to me about 3 times. It sucks
I still don't understand why they rushing chapter to chapter. Like wtf. Feels like Skull just came out and we are few days right before the next chapter. So many recycled Perks, so much shit perks. Instead of tweaking perks and killers, base kits, add ons etc. Just focus on that instead rushing chapter after chapter
To hide a tree, use a forest. New chapters are expected to be bugged and cause balance problems, they fix those after a long while, and pretend that other pre-existing issues dont exist.
Money.
@@jackmatutum7747 That too. And what’s made out of trees? Paper. And what’s made out of paper? *Money.*
Coincidence? I think not. #IlluminatiConfirmed
Well the title sure aged well
as if twins werent punishing enough to play. this is fairly common as well
Thats the 1st twin i see in this year,and i play dbd everyday.
Played a twins yesterday after not having played one in two years I demand them be nerfed I can't stand for this.
This game is not bugged at all.
This is the kind of thing that really makes me mad about that BHVR AMA.
Twins were supposed to be worked on and fixed long ago, now we're waiting well over 6 months for it.
Also them mentioning they have no plans for Trapper, the WORST killer in the game.
I'd say myers is the worst killer in the game, but trapper is low down there too
Hey at least they acknowledge it. They’ve got enough on their hands honestly with how much shit is wrong rn
First time? lol
The atrocious hits people get with Victor on survivors that are worse than huntress hatchets more than make up for this.
Has nothing to do with Twins, everything to do with their shitty hitboxes and netcode.
Considering that Victor often enough flies past the Survivor (Victors visual model), not feeling sorry. In general, the more unplayable Twins are, the better. (Might change my opinion if they actually manage to rework Twins in a way that they dont require massive slugging OR that massive slugging is not their best strategy)
Playing at 0.25. It's.. horrifying.
I main twins on console.. it is ROUGH 😢😢
I LOVE THE TWINS. I still till this day dont get why ppl hate them? I rarely run into bugs, and its not like theyre super weak, bcs lets be honest, even killers like dredge, wraith, etc. struggle sometimes and they dont have any "problems"
Every gaming community shits on one piece of equipment/character in a game. People love to complain about something. Twins are fine and bugs are rare, they really don't need a rework as much as some other killers do.
French
Most players dont know/dont like slugging and versing against slugging killers
Because they basically consist of camping and slugging to play them efficiently, hence not being fun gameplay for some people
I'll be honest, I don't think Twins will ever get a _major_ rework. There's just not enough people playing as them and openly enjoying them for BHVR to spend time and ressources on. At best they will get a big bug fix that will fix the hitboxes and fix the freeze glitch once and for all.
BHVR makes balance changes and bug fixes based almost purely on stats, and Twins's pickrate explains why it's been several years and yet they are still a buggy mess that's unenjoyable to play as and against most of the time (it's also the reason why Merciless Storm and Lullaby took weeks to fix despite being bugged: before they broke and started to get exploited too much, not enough people used them to justify a quick fix. It's also why Wesker's hitbox post-PTB was fixed in record-time: everyone wanted to play Wesker and the chapter was one of the most successful to date). Sure insta-blinds were removed quickly, but that's because the lead dev got _humiliated_ by a team running insta-blinds on a show.
Maybe that's the secret: make the devs play Twins against comp teams for a couple days, see how fast Twins gets fixed XD
That's the point of a rework... to get more people to play the killer, what do you think happened when freddy got his rework in 2019?
@@daniellewis3098i know what happened still nobody plays freddy
@@daniellewis3098 The key difference here is that Freddy is a _licensed_ character and as such automatically more lucrative than most original chapters, especially the Twins's chapter (pretty sure tons of people didn't spend actual money on Twins and just got them for shards).
They can't really afford to make a _licensed_ chapter basically unplayable and/or so unpopular that they don't get their money back.
@@schwarzparker1 they did when he was reworked in 2019,lots of people did,they stopped again when he was made bad in 2021
Adrenaline nerf incoming?
As a Twins enjoyer, there was a moment Otz could have landed the hit about a second earlier. He hesitated when he did not need to. However, better to wait too long than to rush the strike.
I honestly hope Twins don't become better to play because idc about playing as them, but playing against them is miserable and I really don't want to see them more often
All I see is a skill issue. 😂 Seriously, Twins needs help.