Hi everyone! A number of you are wondering how I added the plan to the map. -I used a mod called Image Overlay 2, which you can find here (steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2616880500). -I then found an image of the plan and spent a bit of time working to get the sizing right, cropping it to a square in my photo editor. - Finally, I used the plan to create the shape of the land on a map I found in the workshop. I HIGHLY recommend this mod if you're looking to take on a project like this!
As a land surveyor who has often drafted based off an overlay (thanks, LiDAR!) I was drooling this entire video. I have often wondered about doing this in Cities!! It would be so satisfying to bring one of my plats to life! 🥰
I was wondering exactly this and so grateful that you preempted my question. Doing these sort of builds is the reason I became so fond of cities skylines. Its the joy of taking something real or almost real and seeing it grow right in front of me. Love your content by the way, by far my favourite to follow. You're like the Bob Ross of city building 👍
Oh this is freaking awesome. Shall watch this on my lunch break later, but the first few seconds so far have me super interested. Did you upload the image/map you used?
Thank you for posting this, I've been remaking my home city of Manhattan, KS for a while now and been switching back and forth from Google maps to try and line up roads with the topography this will help big time! Also wanted to do Kansas City and Wichita!
@@CityPlannerPlays Maybe you could do Kingsport in Tennessee? It was one of John Nolen’s first planned cities I believe. For that reason it has the nickname “Model City”.
I live in Venice and this was so cool to watch! Obviously, so many things have changed since the original 1926 plans, but there's still so many recognizable landmarks. So cool! Thanks for all your hard work on this!
This is such a fun concept. I agree with OE: I’d love to see more videos where you try and recreate city plans (and perhaps create some designs that were never actually implemented!)
This is by far my most favorite video of yours. The fact that you have access to this kind of history and knowledge and then can show it be recreated in a simulated fashion is most fulfilling. this makes me wish I had stuck with my Civil Engineering degree😆 Please do more videos like this!!
As a history fan, I love this. As a Cities: Skylines fan, I love this. As a fan of your channel, I love this! It is so cool to see a old plan like this brought to life! I have never heard about John Nolen, and it was so cool to learn about! I really hope you do more of these!!
Hay Mr.Biffa,whats up.I see you to like City planner's chanel,good stuff is hard to bypass,eh.You know i to am player of the cities skylines,but my game is on PS4,and unpractical in comparison to PC version of the cities skylines.So i was wondering,is there any way to inform Paradox Interactive?To let them know,that we would like te have on PS4 full 25 squares of the map,and PC performance of cities constructions tools.
I grew up here!!! I can see my parents plot in this overlay. I’m a huge fan of your channel and an urban planning Masters student and I’m always telling people how well planned Venice is and now I have some evidence to back it up lol. I’m completely mind blown to see tiny Venice and Nolen getting so much love. The city museum would love this - I might know some people..Looking forward to seeing more cities in the future. So cool!!!
Was just thinking how magical that a human that could have never imagined this technology is being actualised all these years later and moreso amazing that being watched by so many all over the globe 👀🤯😱
He couldn't even imagine what a computer is. I'm pretty sure that even Turing would have difficulties to understand how far computers have gone since his work in Bletchley Park.
@@gethplatform2392 The raw computing power of modern hardware would be impressive, but not incomprehensible... it's still the same principles. But I think the visual part would come as a huge surprise... that's the part that simply has no comparison with the 1940s. It's one thing to think that a future computer could mathematically model the interactions of a city - it's quite another to think that the same computer can present the results of those calculations as a real-time animation of that city.
The only problem I have with cities skylines is just the janky ground to water transition height, it's so hard to make it looks good or just to make a pier that actually looks reachable from the deck of the in game ships
As a historian, I've always enjoyed how City Planner puts so much effort into making his builds *plausible*. This takes it to the next level. Great work!
This is extremely cool and it's nice to get a taste of history to go with Cities Skylines, hope this becomes a running series of these kinds of short videos, we wouldn't want for Clearwater and Verde Beach to be left on the side and also BEAVEEERSSS!
My first planning job was in Venice! I was actually the first person (I know of) who georectified the original plans so that we could overlay them on top of the current maps & imagery in our GIS. Fun facts: 1) The canals are existing watersheds (like Deer Creek). Nolan built around them. 2) The original 1926 plans had the utilities in the rear of properties, not running along the streets. We're still dealing with that headache to this day (a homeowner recently uncovered an old wooden pipe and trash left over from the 30s!). 3) The big open space along the north of what is now Venice Island was actually an orange grove. 4) Venice gets its drinking water from wells, not Hatchett Creek. Amazing job! I'm going to show this to the Planning Department tomorrow!
That was incredibly cool! I hope this is a new series, I loved how you used the overlay of the plan to create the city! And if we ever wondered what a city planner does in his spare time....well we now know they nerd out to other planners!!!
Super fun concept! I love learning and watching your videos for inspiration. One small bit of constructive feedback, it's hard for me to watch the build and read the text in the bottom of the screen. I would have preferred you talking over the video so I could focus on your speed build.
Great idea, would like to see you take it the next step by continuing beyond the original plan. Maybe do a series where you start with a small town plan as your downtown area and then keeping the original plan in mind build the city around it.
@@CityPlannerPlays Just thinking most cities are not giant Megaopolis like New York and as a fellow Midwestern it is pretty common to see our downtowns still have some of the small town/city vibes from their founding. I mean where I live in Iowa 2 blocks from what would be considered downtown is the historic district where the 1st houses were built in the city.
This video format combines two of my favorite things: video games, and random facts you wouldn’t learn in a classroom. Also, utilizing the cities skylines engine to realize a process most people couldn’t wrap their head around by just looking at plans is ingenious. I really hope we can see more of this.
@@WillCSOfficial I agree, and the increased size and speed of vehicles as well would probably be an issue. I live in a place only accessible by a pair of bridges built in the 1930's, and 18 wheelers have to take up 2 lanes to safely go over the bridges, not to mention the traffic congestion they cause during summer traffic.
@@Khotetsu That's pretty common all over the world. Saw a news item recently, people battling their local council over parking issues - they're old houses that don't have off-street parking, but they're also on a very narrow street, and there's not room to have two-way traffic _and_ street-side parking. The most practical solution is probably to change the road to be one-way, but that has consequences too.
@@WillCSOfficial Nowadays, it will be very difficult to convince 100 million Americans to give up a car for a bus. Unless you incentivize them by offering tax credits
MY HOMETOWN! I just clicked on this video and I am speechless! This is amazing. ❤️ Fun fact: Venice was originally known as Horse and Chaise, but it was changed to Venice in 1888 when the first post office was built. Edit to add: thank you for this. I am actually crying in happiness at the moment. This is a video I will truly always treasure. I have so many memories of this island, the parks, the library, the beach, my elementary and high school, parties at the jetties, boating down the Intracoastal to Snake Island, marching in parades down Venice Ave, sleepovers at a friend’s house. Absolutely incredible.
This was a very interesting video. Would be cool to hear your thoughts on it as a modern city planner. And how to get a map to overlay so I can actually try and build my home town.
love the amount of time spent lingering on four competing bookstores all in frame at 11:05, lmao. fun build! appreciate all the historical context and i've wanted to do something like this myself for a long time.
The absolute highest compliment I can give this is that it felt like an interactive video in a museum. Informative and you get to watch something come to life before your eyes. I don't know how expandable this series is, but I would LOVE 10-30 min builds highlighting different influential city planners/designers.
Thank you!!! I had a few I was thinking about doing, but settled on this one. The next one I do will likely be a build in Europe that never came to fruition and would have absolutely desecrated a beautiful city. I won't give more away than that
Wow, great video! This is the kind of thing I thought of the first time I learned about Cities: Skylines... hope to see more! I'm happy to see that various mods have been developed to make this possible (or at least, easier). I'd also love to see a companion video to this where you discuss a little of the "how to", some of the alterations you had to do to make it work with the game, and a little about your thoughts on the original plan overall.
Long time listener, first time caller... I just gotta say, watching the first 1 minute of video at .25 speed, made me feel like i was looking over Gods shoulder at the end of the 6th day, when the final details are being laid out. The playback speed was slow enough to where i could follow the words and the build, and the song you chose, played at .25 speed, is otherworldly! It was like an alien choir singing my life story, at the end. That song at quarter speed 'ffed my brain up! Been loving following the builds. You've taught be a lot of best practices, and for that I thank you.
This was an incredible idea. Would love to see more of this type of build! Could this become a new series? Would love to see original city plans built or maybe bring ancient cities into modern times
Phil - I've been a big fan since Bluffside Crossing started, but this might be my favorite content from you, yet! Awesome idea that was executed perfectly, but we miss your voice! I'd love to see this become a series. Keep slaying it, king.
This is amazing! As someone who doesn't actually know a whole lot about city planning, or John Nolen's Venice Florida plan, but would like to, I would really love to see a video where you take us around this incredible city that you've recreated and talk a bit about some of the things in the design that you find particularly special and inspired you to recreate it. Maybe even stuff that isn't unique to his plan, but which you think are just... well implemented design elements. Maybe even some discussion of issues, criticisms, etc. You put so much work into building this, I'd love to know what inspired it!
Your dedication to realism is one of the main reasons why I follow this channel, but this is certainly a few steps beyond expectation. Thank you! One question though: I saw you struggling with getting the canals to actually carry water. Is there a reason for why you didn't use the ingame canal assets, other than getting the authentic look? Not complaining, just curious.
@@EphDis You nailed it. I would have had to try to find a custom canal and didn't want to stop recording since I was hours in at that point. In hindsight, I would have probably tried to find a custom asset to make this work. Terraforming just isn't fine-grain enough to make tiny canals work right.
Absurdly good! What a cool idea and what a fantastic city layout. That John Nolen was a genius! A far cry from what we often see today when it comes to urban planning. Great work CPP!
The famous CPP triple-bookstore avenue :P Seriously though, great job, I'd be really interested in seeing more historical builds like this, especially if they came with commentary providing context and thoughts like this one did!
The game can be a bit like that... e.g. commercial districts that consist entirely of coffee shops. Though from my travels in North America, I can't say that's unrealistic...
It’s so nice to see a city that’s just a stones throw away from me get built from the ground up in city skylines. Your recreation of it was spot on! Thank you CPP!
I absolutely love this. And I'm sure everyone who lives in Venice will love it too. Can't wait for the next historical recreation. (My only complaint is that I kept missing the text because I was watching the build. Why no voiceover? They're usually so Zen!)
I started following this channel because I love both the game and your dedication to realism in it, but never did I think I’d see you recreate a 100 year old plan for the small obscure town I was born, raised, and have lived in for 90% of my life. It’s insane on how well preserved the city is today from the original plan. The roadways are practically untouched today and this section of the city is preserved as historic downtown. We call it the island because the waterway has been extended to completely surround downtown. It’s especially cool to learn that the land I went to high school on used to be a huge country club. You did an amazing job at recreating Venice, and it was super cool to see my hometown brought into this game. Thank you!
Two. The second half of the video is a whole separate take. I put the original on Patreon, but it was missing shots due to realizing a mistake partway through allowing the simulation to run.
whoooaaa I clicked on this video not expecting to see it was a city I have been to haha, don't recognize it well enough by the streetplan but I have been to venice florida many times. Lots of old people lol.
I started Las Vegas over a year ago and got one freeway done and gave up LOL. The map alone took me weeks to adjust even with pulling it from the internet. I love how this came together and the effort you put in.
Now that you have the golf course mod, I’m thinking that you should bring that into CWC as that would fit in well with the area. The lore could be that some wealthy person bought up a lot of land to create their own resort and country club hidden away from the city.
this was so cool to see the overlay of the actual plans as you made it in game. a lot of work goes into creating these plans and it is so great you got to share one of the ones you liked in this game.
As someone who has grown up in Florida their whole life, seeing this come to life and even learning a bit more on the history of my home state was really nice to see/learn. Wonderful video, CPP.
I've been binge-watching CWC and Verde Beach since I came across your channel through RUclips (I don't play Cities: Skylines), and I'm hooked up since. I have to say that this was my new favourite video, what a fantastic idea. It's great to see Nolen's influence on your gameplay and awesome to learn a bit of history at the same time. I would love to see this becoming a series.
so many years into the game, and yet another display I've never seen coming: Outstanding, thanks Wow, science meets arts! What a beauty! would be interesting to see the overall city stats by C:S... as far as traffic is concerned, it shows the efficiency of road hierarchy: no mass transit, no TM:PE, still good flow!
Thank you! I'll do a bit of cleanup and put the build on the workshop. I, quite unfortunately, forgot to save after allowing it to develop. I did save right before then, though.
There is a huge lack of information on how to correctly do a map overlay in cities skyline. Please make a video segment or video to explain. Thank you! Always great work.
@@fryreviews693 yes I remember what you’re eluding to but there isn’t a precise example or step by step clear process on how to achieve the map overlay goal correctly. And I’m hoping that city planner gives us a clear precise way to correctly apply the map overlay 🙂
@@Nicks949 yeah there's some videos about the image overlay mods but they're mostly focused on height maps. I really want to know how he got the image to work while he was in game to do the street layout. I've been trying to use image overlay mods but its just not working for me. I would love to see how CPP did this process
I would like to know what the real city is, how they modernized, and do city planners plan with the intent that the community will change in unforeseen ways?
They just started construction on a new low-rise apartment complex across the street from me (435 units + retail) and I can only imagine you narrating the video like this area is being _revitalized!_ Look at all these corner shops! So walkable!
Well... that was awesome! Would like to see some more videos like this one from time to time! However you do realize that you set yourself up with this one, right? Now we know what you're capable of in the game when you really want to and you're gonna have to find some really good excuses for not making everything this pretty from now on! :D :D :D
This is really fantastic to see. Great concept! I'm amazed at how effectively a 20th Century paper plan for a real world city translates into a working plan for a 21st Century game. Well done.
What a fantastic idea and so well done! More IRL city plans, of course, but also a tutorial series on how you overlaid the map and executed the plan - with the enlightening commentary we've come to know and love. Would not mind some real-time portions as you go through the bits that are most interesting to you.
Wow this is one of your finest productions yet! I love hearing your voice and you walking us through each episode piece by piece, although, this video has a level of sophistication and elegance that I really appreciate a lot. It adds a nice, new and interesting tone to your pallette! Thanks for the videos and keep up the amazing work CPP :)
This is absolutely flawless. Your attention to detail and presentation is immaculate. It'd be awesome to see you recreate more plans from reality, an entertaining watch from start to end!
Best thing about Cities Skylines is the fact that it doesn't only feel like a game you play. It actually look more like a toy you make from the ground up only to watch it build itself after you're done with the plans. This is pretty cool.
You know what I really love about your video's I assume that you're a junior city planner (or senior) but you're so passionate about your profession that you put in the extra work just for fun and to better yourself!!! Really nice to see those driven types! Just started playing btw you've helped me a lot love the content!
So, I absolutely love creating houses in the Sims based on real floorplans, and have loosely considered doing something like this before as a result.... this is AMAZING to see, just an absolutely awesome project.
I love the idea of taking old or new city plans, re-creating them in Cities Skylines to do a rough render of what it would look like. Mechanics/concepts might be slightly different from real-world but this was such an awesome video
This is so cool, my buddy and I were passing through Roanoke VA and were very impressed with the layout, including walkability and green spaces. Now I come across this video saying one of the best city planners in American history had a hand in that!
I couldn't tell that the text was changing because I was looking at the timelapse. Having it empty for a split second would tell me that it changed and I could focus both on it and the video
WOW! This is something else! After watching this I immediately loaded up my city and demolished everything, and then just lay landfill sites end-to-end as that is all it is compared to this masterpiece! Superb work Mr CPP
This was an amazing video, I genuinely enjoyed seeing you bring to life an old city plan that was never fully used. I'd love to see this added as a series to your other CS series as well.
Would love if you made this into a series. Maybe even start a second series where you plan real cities the way you think they should look like in the future! Keep up the amazing work 😁
This is really soothing. Living in the Philippines I realized why our traffic situation is really bad and that is because of lack of planning or worst no plans at all.
What a great and beautiful video. I really love the way you told the history and gave some comments, also the music was so in the same atmosphere. Some real images from the city at the end also was fantastic, could add just a little bit more. Hope you can make more of this kind of history, once a month would be really nice! Great job and thank you for this!
What a great watch! I'd gladly see more of this kind of content, maybe followed by a little explanation at the end why certain things are the way they are. Recreating plans and already existing masterfully-planned cities is definitely for a city planner who plays games.
Hi everyone! A number of you are wondering how I added the plan to the map.
-I used a mod called Image Overlay 2, which you can find here (steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2616880500).
-I then found an image of the plan and spent a bit of time working to get the sizing right, cropping it to a square in my photo editor. -
Finally, I used the plan to create the shape of the land on a map I found in the workshop.
I HIGHLY recommend this mod if you're looking to take on a project like this!
As a land surveyor who has often drafted based off an overlay (thanks, LiDAR!) I was drooling this entire video. I have often wondered about doing this in Cities!! It would be so satisfying to bring one of my plats to life! 🥰
I was wondering exactly this and so grateful that you preempted my question. Doing these sort of builds is the reason I became so fond of cities skylines. Its the joy of taking something real or almost real and seeing it grow right in front of me.
Love your content by the way, by far my favourite to follow. You're like the Bob Ross of city building 👍
Oh this is freaking awesome. Shall watch this on my lunch break later, but the first few seconds so far have me super interested.
Did you upload the image/map you used?
And then I found this!!!!
Thank you for posting this, I've been remaking my home city of Manhattan, KS for a while now and been switching back and forth from Google maps to try and line up roads with the topography this will help big time! Also wanted to do Kansas City and Wichita!
I love to imagine someone spending 12 hours recreating this just to be hit with "NOT ENOUGH EDUCATED WORKERS"
XD
Florida man yells at moon! (As a non-American this is Florida right?)
Pain.
@@lward53 I mean, you’d have to ask someone who knows cities, lives in Florida, or who read the damn thing saying Florida plans
@@BisexualPlagueDoctor no he’s right. Is Florida in a nut shell. 👌
Great video man, and that design is wonderful. I'd definitely like to see more IRL city plans!
Definitely agree on that!
Glad that you liked it, Egg!! More will be coming! Hope that you're doing well, buddy!!
Seconded
@@CityPlannerPlays consider Sarasota, just north of Venice Florida
@@CityPlannerPlays Maybe you could do Kingsport in Tennessee? It was one of John Nolen’s first planned cities I believe. For that reason it has the nickname “Model City”.
I live in Venice and this was so cool to watch! Obviously, so many things have changed since the original 1926 plans, but there's still so many recognizable landmarks. So cool! Thanks for all your hard work on this!
Same I live in Venice too
@@Tom_Crews Same i live in Venice too
This is such a fun concept. I agree with OE: I’d love to see more videos where you try and recreate city plans (and perhaps create some designs that were never actually implemented!)
This is by far my most favorite video of yours. The fact that you have access to this kind of history and knowledge and then can show it be recreated in a simulated fashion is most fulfilling. this makes me wish I had stuck with my Civil Engineering degree😆 Please do more videos like this!!
@@ElwoodGaming Are you a bot?
@@Schody_lol pardon me??🧐🧐
@@ElwoodGaming Ok, so you’re not a bot. Your comment just looked a bit off to me in the reply section.
@@ElwoodGaming agreed. I would love to see more videos like this too!
As a history fan, I love this. As a Cities: Skylines fan, I love this. As a fan of your channel, I love this! It is so cool to see a old plan like this brought to life! I have never heard about John Nolen, and it was so cool to learn about! I really hope you do more of these!!
Wow, that was fantastic :-) How many hours did it take you do build?
I'm pretty sure with this results the right answer to this question is: irrelevant haha ;)
It took that time you need to make 69 cups of tea lol
After spending a little too long on math, my guesstimate is a bit over 4 hours
Hay Mr.Biffa,whats up.I see you to like City planner's chanel,good stuff is hard to bypass,eh.You know i to am player of the cities skylines,but my game is on PS4,and unpractical in comparison to PC version of the cities skylines.So i was wondering,is there any way to inform Paradox Interactive?To let them know,that we would like te have on PS4 full 25 squares of the map,and PC performance of cities constructions tools.
12:15 John Nolen or Biffa? There's no cup of tea, so it must be John
I grew up here!!! I can see my parents plot in this overlay. I’m a huge fan of your channel and an urban planning Masters student and I’m always telling people how well planned Venice is and now I have some evidence to back it up lol. I’m completely mind blown to see tiny Venice and Nolen getting so much love. The city museum would love this - I might know some people..Looking forward to seeing more cities in the future. So cool!!!
Same! Although now in the winter the traffic is 100x worse than the video lol
I live in Venice Fl right now lol
Should've picked a different city name tbh, I've never been there but I don't doubt it's a nice place, just don't like the name
On vacation in Venice at my grandparents house right now and this video pops up in my recommended. So cool
@@ATemplarIGuess it has canals, like venice, crediting the inspiration basically, I see nothing wrong with it
To think, John would have his mind blown to see his plan actualized on a computer program in 2021 lol
Was just thinking how magical that a human that could have never imagined this technology is being actualised all these years later and moreso amazing that being watched by so many all over the globe 👀🤯😱
John would freak out and he would be proud
@@Jept imagine his reaction to being told that this could be done... not just on a computer program but in a game where people build cities for fun!
He couldn't even imagine what a computer is. I'm pretty sure that even Turing would have difficulties to understand how far computers have gone since his work in Bletchley Park.
@@gethplatform2392 The raw computing power of modern hardware would be impressive, but not incomprehensible... it's still the same principles. But I think the visual part would come as a huge surprise... that's the part that simply has no comparison with the 1940s.
It's one thing to think that a future computer could mathematically model the interactions of a city - it's quite another to think that the same computer can present the results of those calculations as a real-time animation of that city.
The only problem I have with cities skylines is just the janky ground to water transition height, it's so hard to make it looks good or just to make a pier that actually looks reachable from the deck of the in game ships
CPP totally nerding out on John Nolen in this love letter to his work, and we love it!
As a historian, I've always enjoyed how City Planner puts so much effort into making his builds *plausible*. This takes it to the next level. Great work!
Thank you!!
This is extremely cool and it's nice to get a taste of history to go with Cities Skylines, hope this becomes a running series of these kinds of short videos, we wouldn't want for Clearwater and Verde Beach to be left on the side and also BEAVEEERSSS!
More of all of those coming soon. Especially BEAVEEEERSSS!
My first planning job was in Venice! I was actually the first person (I know of) who georectified the original plans so that we could overlay them on top of the current maps & imagery in our GIS.
Fun facts:
1) The canals are existing watersheds (like Deer Creek). Nolan built around them.
2) The original 1926 plans had the utilities in the rear of properties, not running along the streets. We're still dealing with that headache to this day (a homeowner recently uncovered an old wooden pipe and trash left over from the 30s!).
3) The big open space along the north of what is now Venice Island was actually an orange grove.
4) Venice gets its drinking water from wells, not Hatchett Creek.
Amazing job! I'm going to show this to the Planning Department tomorrow!
What did they say?
@@Bearical typical city planners...
"Oh, we'll get this done tomorrow!"
No you won't, Jimmy. No you won't.
@@FonicsSuck lol
@@Bearical Nothing. I sent them the link and haven't heard back...
@@linkmaxwell Damn, that's tough.
That was incredibly cool! I hope this is a new series, I loved how you used the overlay of the plan to create the city! And if we ever wondered what a city planner does in his spare time....well we now know they nerd out to other planners!!!
That’s a brilliant idea for a city build. Would love to see more of this style
Thank you!! More coming for sure!
@@CityPlannerPlays Please make more of this :)
Super fun concept! I love learning and watching your videos for inspiration. One small bit of constructive feedback, it's hard for me to watch the build and read the text in the bottom of the screen. I would have preferred you talking over the video so I could focus on your speed build.
yupp this
Agreed.
Felt the same!
100%
I agree. I was so focused on the build that I didn't even notice that the words on the screen actually pertained to the video at first..
I'm not much into city planning myself IRL, but the original plan has a certain elegance to it. Mesmerising build.
Great idea, would like to see you take it the next step by continuing beyond the original plan. Maybe do a series where you start with a small town plan as your downtown area and then keeping the original plan in mind build the city around it.
Good idea!
@@CityPlannerPlays Just thinking most cities are not giant Megaopolis like New York and as a fellow Midwestern it is pretty common to see our downtowns still have some of the small town/city vibes from their founding. I mean where I live in Iowa 2 blocks from what would be considered downtown is the historic district where the 1st houses were built in the city.
@@joshuatayloe8616 check out his cwc series. He has cities and small towns on that build.
Awesome pfp
This video format combines two of my favorite things: video games, and random facts you wouldn’t learn in a classroom. Also, utilizing the cities skylines engine to realize a process most people couldn’t wrap their head around by just looking at plans is ingenious. I really hope we can see more of this.
Seeing as this is a 100 year old plan, it begs the question...
What essential services do we have to account for now that we didn't back then?
Fibre optic infrastructure? Idk, it's a good question.
Probably as #1 I would say the bigger amount of traffic that there is nowadays, and the implementation of more modern public transport
@@WillCSOfficial I agree, and the increased size and speed of vehicles as well would probably be an issue. I live in a place only accessible by a pair of bridges built in the 1930's, and 18 wheelers have to take up 2 lanes to safely go over the bridges, not to mention the traffic congestion they cause during summer traffic.
@@Khotetsu That's pretty common all over the world. Saw a news item recently, people battling their local council over parking issues - they're old houses that don't have off-street parking, but they're also on a very narrow street, and there's not room to have two-way traffic _and_ street-side parking. The most practical solution is probably to change the road to be one-way, but that has consequences too.
@@WillCSOfficial
Nowadays, it will be very difficult to convince 100 million Americans to give up a car for a bus.
Unless you incentivize them by offering tax credits
MY HOMETOWN! I just clicked on this video and I am speechless! This is amazing. ❤️
Fun fact: Venice was originally known as Horse and Chaise, but it was changed to Venice in 1888 when the first post office was built.
Edit to add: thank you for this. I am actually crying in happiness at the moment. This is a video I will truly always treasure. I have so many memories of this island, the parks, the library, the beach, my elementary and high school, parties at the jetties, boating down the Intracoastal to Snake Island, marching in parades down Venice Ave, sleepovers at a friend’s house. Absolutely incredible.
This was a very interesting video. Would be cool to hear your thoughts on it as a modern city planner. And how to get a map to overlay so I can actually try and build my home town.
I second this, I'd love to see a follow up on this city, also on how the plan translates into CS.
it's a mod but i don't have a pc but on console so idk the name.
i've seen it before with other yt'ers who do stuff
ruclips.net/video/SH84sRxBXL4/видео.html found this
I have a constant struggle thinking: "how real is this game?" Looking at a recreation of a real city makes me love the game even more! Great job!
This was SO MUCH FUN.
It's a gorgeous city. You've gotta love that art deco sense of style and grandeur that goes into something like that.
love the amount of time spent lingering on four competing bookstores all in frame at 11:05, lmao. fun build! appreciate all the historical context and i've wanted to do something like this myself for a long time.
You can never have enough book stores.... haha!
The absolute highest compliment I can give this is that it felt like an interactive video in a museum. Informative and you get to watch something come to life before your eyes. I don't know how expandable this series is, but I would LOVE 10-30 min builds highlighting different influential city planners/designers.
Thank you!!! I had a few I was thinking about doing, but settled on this one. The next one I do will likely be a build in Europe that never came to fruition and would have absolutely desecrated a beautiful city. I won't give more away than that
@@CityPlannerPlays Yesssss! Really looking forward to it!
Wow, great video! This is the kind of thing I thought of the first time I learned about Cities: Skylines... hope to see more! I'm happy to see that various mods have been developed to make this possible (or at least, easier). I'd also love to see a companion video to this where you discuss a little of the "how to", some of the alterations you had to do to make it work with the game, and a little about your thoughts on the original plan overall.
Long time listener, first time caller...
I just gotta say, watching the first 1 minute of video at .25 speed, made me feel like i was looking over Gods shoulder at the end of the 6th day, when the final details are being laid out. The playback speed was slow enough to where i could follow the words and the build, and the song you chose, played at .25 speed, is otherworldly! It was like an alien choir singing my life story, at the end. That song at quarter speed 'ffed my brain up!
Been loving following the builds. You've taught be a lot of best practices, and for that I thank you.
that was such a wonderful idea, and a great video in general! Even when watching it for the 2nd time I can still enjoy it ;)
Thank you, Will!!
This is a total work of art! Seriously, wow. The production quality and content on this channel has truly become something to behold, Phil. Bravo!
This was an incredible idea. Would love to see more of this type of build! Could this become a new series? Would love to see original city plans built or maybe bring ancient cities into modern times
Very well could become a new series! I really, really enjoyed creating this one!
@@CityPlannerPlays that’s the most important thing! Any chance we see something like this inside Clearwater county?
@@CityPlannerPlays I'd be incredibly hyped if we got the Olmstead plan for Tacoma at some point.
I love the idea of bringing ancient cities into the modern world. No matter what the signature of the series has to be the map overlay.
Phil - I've been a big fan since Bluffside Crossing started, but this might be my favorite content from you, yet! Awesome idea that was executed perfectly, but we miss your voice! I'd love to see this become a series. Keep slaying it, king.
4:20 I know this was a typo, but "Concern Venue" is just so poetic.
This is amazing! As someone who doesn't actually know a whole lot about city planning, or John Nolen's Venice Florida plan, but would like to, I would really love to see a video where you take us around this incredible city that you've recreated and talk a bit about some of the things in the design that you find particularly special and inspired you to recreate it. Maybe even stuff that isn't unique to his plan, but which you think are just... well implemented design elements. Maybe even some discussion of issues, criticisms, etc. You put so much work into building this, I'd love to know what inspired it!
Your dedication to realism is one of the main reasons why I follow this channel, but this is certainly a few steps beyond expectation. Thank you!
One question though: I saw you struggling with getting the canals to actually carry water. Is there a reason for why you didn't use the ingame canal assets, other than getting the authentic look? Not complaining, just curious.
It looked in the timelapse like one went in for a couple of frames, but it seemed to wide to fit
@@EphDis Ah, I must have missed that. Makes sense.
@@EphDis You nailed it. I would have had to try to find a custom canal and didn't want to stop recording since I was hours in at that point. In hindsight, I would have probably tried to find a custom asset to make this work. Terraforming just isn't fine-grain enough to make tiny canals work right.
@@CityPlannerPlays You should def name one of the canal crossings Nugget Bridge :P
Absurdly good! What a cool idea and what a fantastic city layout. That John Nolen was a genius! A far cry from what we often see today when it comes to urban planning. Great work CPP!
The famous CPP triple-bookstore avenue :P
Seriously though, great job, I'd be really interested in seeing more historical builds like this, especially if they came with commentary providing context and thoughts like this one did!
The game can be a bit like that... e.g. commercial districts that consist entirely of coffee shops. Though from my travels in North America, I can't say that's unrealistic...
It’s actually four bookstores! There’s one in the bottom right corner, too. 😂
@@ViserraTargaryen220
It’s so nice to see a city that’s just a stones throw away from me get built from the ground up in city skylines. Your recreation of it was spot on! Thank you CPP!
I absolutely love this. And I'm sure everyone who lives in Venice will love it too. Can't wait for the next historical recreation.
(My only complaint is that I kept missing the text because I was watching the build. Why no voiceover? They're usually so Zen!)
I started following this channel because I love both the game and your dedication to realism in it, but never did I think I’d see you recreate a 100 year old plan for the small obscure town I was born, raised, and have lived in for 90% of my life.
It’s insane on how well preserved the city is today from the original plan. The roadways are practically untouched today and this section of the city is preserved as historic downtown. We call it the island because the waterway has been extended to completely surround downtown. It’s especially cool to learn that the land I went to high school on used to be a huge country club.
You did an amazing job at recreating Venice, and it was super cool to see my hometown brought into this game. Thank you!
Great build... can you do a tutorial on how to use the image Overlay 2 mod on both a map in the editor and one that you’ve already started playing
Yes!
Great idea!
11:08 - The folks in this town really love their Books/Book Stores- there's some heavy competition there!
Very nice work!
Now, to the million dollar question. How many takes until you got it right?
Two. The second half of the video is a whole separate take. I put the original on Patreon, but it was missing shots due to realizing a mistake partway through allowing the simulation to run.
@@CityPlannerPlays I noticed the simulation ran for most of the first half. This was amazing though!
whoooaaa I clicked on this video not expecting to see it was a city I have been to haha, don't recognize it well enough by the streetplan but I have been to venice florida many times. Lots of old people lol.
This was so cool to watch…can’t wait to try this with my hometown. Need a tutorial on how to use the overlay 🤔
Yes, precisely!! A tutorial on how to use the overlay, please!!
We need to know! I've tried recreating real cities in my own time and failed miserably. That overlay would be a godsend!
YES! Exactly this
I started Las Vegas over a year ago and got one freeway done and gave up LOL. The map alone took me weeks to adjust even with pulling it from the internet. I love how this came together and the effort you put in.
THIS IS AWESOME , HOW DID U GET THE MAP OVERLAY?
Image overlay mod
@@1oVVa Thanks for the answer.
Added a pinned comment showing the process and I might put together a video showing the whole thing.
This was beautiful. Mesmerizing to watch. Great job CPP!
Now that you have the golf course mod, I’m thinking that you should bring that into CWC as that would fit in well with the area.
The lore could be that some wealthy person bought up a lot of land to create their own resort and country club hidden away from the city.
I'm not going to say much... but I have something written already.
I’ve been lobbying for a golf course on Verde or CWC and can’t wait for the lore
this was so cool to see the overlay of the actual plans as you made it in game. a lot of work goes into creating these plans and it is so great you got to share one of the ones you liked in this game.
Great video! Would love to hear commentary about some of the earlier planners and their contributions (good and bad!) to modern city planning too!
Thank you! More coming!
As someone who has grown up in Florida their whole life, seeing this come to life and even learning a bit more on the history of my home state was really nice to see/learn. Wonderful video, CPP.
I know it might take longer but post-narration might work better than text, you have a calm voice :D
I've been binge-watching CWC and Verde Beach since I came across your channel through RUclips (I don't play Cities: Skylines), and I'm hooked up since. I have to say that this was my new favourite video, what a fantastic idea.
It's great to see Nolen's influence on your gameplay and awesome to learn a bit of history at the same time. I would love to see this becoming a series.
so many years into the game, and yet another display I've never seen coming: Outstanding, thanks
Wow, science meets arts! What a beauty!
would be interesting to see the overall city stats by C:S...
as far as traffic is concerned, it shows the efficiency of road hierarchy: no mass transit, no TM:PE, still good flow!
Thank you! I'll do a bit of cleanup and put the build on the workshop. I, quite unfortunately, forgot to save after allowing it to develop. I did save right before then, though.
wow, what an effort. Great to see you giving Nolen the place on your channel he deserves. Great build!
There is a huge lack of information on how to correctly do a map overlay in cities skyline. Please make a video segment or video to explain. Thank you! Always great work.
this yes please explain how this was its great, I try with second monitor and google earth. this is what i need
If I remember there might be a mod on the workshop for it. I think it’s either in the October or september showcase
@@fryreviews693 yes I remember what you’re eluding to but there isn’t a precise example or step by step clear process on how to achieve the map overlay goal correctly. And I’m hoping that city planner gives us a clear precise way to correctly apply the map overlay 🙂
@@Nicks949 yeah there's some videos about the image overlay mods but they're mostly focused on height maps. I really want to know how he got the image to work while he was in game to do the street layout. I've been trying to use image overlay mods but its just not working for me. I would love to see how CPP did this process
The best content ever. From a urban planning student at UNT, thank you!
I would like to know what the real city is, how they modernized, and do city planners plan with the intent that the community will change in unforeseen ways?
This was different + awesome, CPP, thank you!
Seems to be a very good plan as it comes to general layout and walkability, though single-floor buildings and Euclidean zoning should be a no-go.
They just started construction on a new low-rise apartment complex across the street from me (435 units + retail) and I can only imagine you narrating the video like this area is being _revitalized!_ Look at all these corner shops! So walkable!
This was fascinating, would be interested to see more like this. Please do a tutorial about how to get that map overlay!
Looks awesome. I lived in Venice for awhile. Should do Sarasota as well but with the updated round abouts for 41 lol
Well... that was awesome! Would like to see some more videos like this one from time to time!
However you do realize that you set yourself up with this one, right? Now we know what you're capable of in the game when you really want to and you're gonna have to find some really good excuses for not making everything this pretty from now on! :D :D :D
... more of these coming!
I work for a natural gas/ fiber optic company and seeing you place the pipes right under the roads really adds that little detail of realism
This is really fantastic to see. Great concept! I'm amazed at how effectively a 20th Century paper plan for a real world city translates into a working plan for a 21st Century game. Well done.
What a fantastic idea and so well done! More IRL city plans, of course, but also a tutorial series on how you overlaid the map and executed the plan - with the enlightening commentary we've come to know and love. Would not mind some real-time portions as you go through the bits that are most interesting to you.
Wow this is one of your finest productions yet! I love hearing your voice and you walking us through each episode piece by piece, although, this video has a level of sophistication and elegance that I really appreciate a lot. It adds a nice, new and interesting tone to your pallette! Thanks for the videos and keep up the amazing work CPP :)
This content format is brilliant! I love the longer form series of course, but this sort of bite-sized, "one-shot" video is fantastic! More please!
This is absolutely flawless. Your attention to detail and presentation is immaculate. It'd be awesome to see you recreate more plans from reality, an entertaining watch from start to end!
Best thing about Cities Skylines is the fact that it doesn't only feel like a game you play. It actually look more like a toy you make from the ground up only to watch it build itself after you're done with the plans. This is pretty cool.
You know what I really love about your video's I assume that you're a junior city planner (or senior) but you're so passionate about your profession that you put in the extra work just for fun and to better yourself!!! Really nice to see those driven types! Just started playing btw you've helped me a lot love the content!
So, I absolutely love creating houses in the Sims based on real floorplans, and have loosely considered doing something like this before as a result.... this is AMAZING to see, just an absolutely awesome project.
I can still hear him saying, "under the roads.. where they are supposed to be!"
I love the idea of taking old or new city plans, re-creating them in Cities Skylines to do a rough render of what it would look like. Mechanics/concepts might be slightly different from real-world but this was such an awesome video
This is so cool, my buddy and I were passing through Roanoke VA and were very impressed with the layout, including walkability and green spaces.
Now I come across this video saying one of the best city planners in American history had a hand in that!
I love the change of pace, great video! I hope you'll do more of this, like an odd ball once in a while
I couldn't tell that the text was changing because I was looking at the timelapse. Having it empty for a split second would tell me that it changed and I could focus both on it and the video
i love how precisely you followed the plans, getting all the districts and small details right must have been quite the chore.
11:20 Ah yes, I too like to look at the mountains down here in Venice, Florida.
WOW! This is something else! After watching this I immediately loaded up my city and demolished everything, and then just lay landfill sites end-to-end as that is all it is compared to this masterpiece!
Superb work Mr CPP
And NO massive highways to strangle it! well done.
This was an amazing video, I genuinely enjoyed seeing you bring to life an old city plan that was never fully used. I'd love to see this added as a series to your other CS series as well.
Can’t wait to watch this on my break today!! Looks magical ✨
No words. 😍
I was born and raised in Venice FL! So cool to see my hometown in this way!
Really enjoyed this. I'm normally all about the talking through process. But this was just highly enjoyable and relaxing. Thx
Watching on a Sunday morning with breakfast, chill vibes. Love it
Wow! This is like a mini-essay and research-creation at the same time. I love this!
Would love if you made this into a series. Maybe even start a second series where you plan real cities the way you think they should look like in the future! Keep up the amazing work 😁
This is really soothing. Living in the Philippines I realized why our traffic situation is really bad and that is because of lack of planning or worst no plans at all.
What a great and beautiful video. I really love the way you told the history and gave some comments, also the music was so in the same atmosphere. Some real images from the city at the end also was fantastic, could add just a little bit more. Hope you can make more of this kind of history, once a month would be really nice! Great job and thank you for this!
This shows your dedication to your work and how much you enjoy this game.
Mad Respect for the time and love you put into this...
It was sooo chill to listen and watch you work!
Love your eye for details, keep it up!
What a great watch! I'd gladly see more of this kind of content, maybe followed by a little explanation at the end why certain things are the way they are. Recreating plans and already existing masterfully-planned cities is definitely for a city planner who plays games.
This was so original and executed flawlessly. Among a slew of great videos on this channel this was the best. Killed it.
I have liked almost 2,000 vídeos on YT, but this video is the best, for sure! Thanks a lot for this amazing Work!
Okay, I didn't vote for the special content, but I'm so glad it won out...THAT was amazing! Great work!