My Tier List S4: d4builds.gg/tierlist/ Watch live at www.twitch.tv/rob2628 Here are my updated top 10 builds for Season 4. You can find the video links in my sheet with more information. Sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bN8C_Fe9nrWv__jUc_Vdbl220g4NM0mlux-ga_s_-5s/edit#gid=6446027 Timestamps 00:00 Explanation 01:15 Rank 10 Werenado Druid @booomerok 03:33 Rank 9 Bone Spirit Necro @kingpig8978 05:26 Rank 8 Dust Devil Barb @Juneck 07:38 Rank 7 Wind Shear Druid @Goblin-Inc 09:17 Rank 6 Fire Bolt Sorc @Mekuna7 11:35 Rank 5 Rapid Fire Rog @LuckyLuciano6 13:19 Rank 4 Victimize Rog @moranich 17:11 Rank 3 Thorns Barb @DoNotHitMe-kb4jy 19:48 Rank 2 Minion Necro @thesssainentertainment8927 23:24 Rank 1 Bash Barb @Rob2628
Hey Rob, is it possible to get your old bash paragon? I didn't screen shot it and changed to Hota bash but would like it back. It hits harder but had less health and I'm ok with dodging... When I tried to go back I noticed you changed everything...
We seriously need an armory as soon as possible. Would love to be able to swap builds on any one character without having to clear the paragon and skills board every single damn time.
This is the reason why i stop playing early every season.... My ADHD brain needs to play different builds all day and i dont have the time to level each class multiple times :(
A shield that never goes away vs massive amounts of health... yeah, those aren't comparable at all. Being completely immune to damage is game breaking.
@@Bob-n9z8h you must be shit at math so lets fix this for you. The barbarian only has a single stick more than rogue and can very easily still die. Sorc, COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE AND NOT JUST FUNCTIONALLY IMMORTAL...ACTUALLY IMORTAL. i know you like to pretend that when you were a child putting in the god mode cheat while playing wasn't actually cheating but there is a difference and you should probably keep the dumb to yourself.
@TheSheff45 immune? Dudes clearly never played sorcerer. God forbid the wind blows towards my sorc with three defensives and maxed DR/Armor because hes for sure gonna die.
Just made a sorc last night (only lvl 68) but its pretty fun imo... Im a minion necro main since day 1 got about 3 lvl 100 necros lol but been having fun on sorc right now... Gonna make a druid never once my sorc hits 100.
@@subzero308 Sorc is definitely a lot of fun, and SUPER fast for blasting through lower level stuff. But for a list like this that's all centered around Pit, it really does need some help in the damage department.
The release of the Pit has really elevated your channel. I like how there is now a real purpose for people to be pushing their builds and you’re doing a better job than anyone at covering them. Keep it up
The problem with the Minion build, if you're not good at dodging boss mechanics (if you're a semi noob/ causal) and gear isn't min maxed to one shot boss kills, without holy bolt glitch (if it's just the boss) you get 1 -shot instantly, even with 40+ life, so something like bone-storm is a bit tankier even if it's not that great for dps and you still eventually get one shotted against the more tricky tormented bosses
I accidentally played bash when i hit sround 45. Got the dust devil codex, but had bash on bar. Realised bash was 1 shotting mobs compared to trying to spam dust devils and having no fury constantly. Went full bash, was stupidly OP. Crazy buildz love it
I’m playing double swing with some dust devil aspects, followed maxroll, and I’m lv 40. You think switching to bash this soon would be better? I’m all for being more powerful lol.
@@tman41291I'm back to dust devil as I have all the leg powers now and some perfect items for it. It's super fast and fun, Bash is better for higher tier Pit though.
@@padcontrol1 i did dust devil double strike until I was struggling at 65 pits. Switched to bash and have a semi shit set of gear of for bash, and I'm SLAMMING 90s and such. dust devil was so fun in everything until very high end game stuff and then u hit a wall. Bash is the way.
@@tman41291 Unfortunately the dust devil build hits a wall fairly quickly. You won't even touch the tormented bosses or high pits, you just don't have the damage. Bash is the way to go for end game, I made the swap a few days ago and its a night and day difference. I even beat tormented varshan for the first time solo, I can FINALLY do damage to bosses. It sucks cuz the whirlwind dust devil build was so much more fun, but its damage is trash in end game.
I'm glade you show case a lot of the Chinese builds, I think they have a different mentality when it comes to gaming and it's interesting to see how they play the game.
@@KingKikikoi Season 1 she was one of the worst, Season 2 she was top through bugs until AoZ, then Barb pulled ahead Season 3 was also Barb Sorc is great in Speedfarm content and crap in "Endgame". If they didn't nerf the PTR version it would at least be somewhat competitive...
@@KingKikikoi Every season is like this: Barb: OP. Facetanking and ripping everything on the screen Rog: OP Necro: OP Druid: decent Sorc: hardmode. Zero damage and surviveability, one niche build for boss fights (blizzard). Trash-ass uniques, no build variety. And yea, i played sorc every season and the best part of the jorney was leveling. Endgame is not for sorc.
That #2 minion necro, he was able to kill that boss because it summons ads that die quickly but proc the holy bolt elixir. If you see the kill, boss dies the moment the elixir procs. Without the elixir, he wouldn't have been able to kill it or it would have taken him a very long time, close to time expiring.
Good stuff, first barb this season and lovin it. Haven't completley finished leveling everything yet, but dust devil has been fantastic for speed farming for me, so tanky, but the bash barb looks sick, definitely will lean into that for the end game.
i just discovered the wind shear druid build. Tried this afternoon and liked it a lot at 62. No unique yet. For Bash Barb, I use the Iron Skin starter build with Fierce Winds in place of Elemental. Like it a lot. Done a 100 nightmare, but did not do high level pit or bosses yet. This is great for casual players. Leveled to 100 very fast.
Rob, you said that you killed Lilith with not great gear. How not great was it :) I'm struggling to hurt her, but I've only just started mastercrafting. How high was your gear?
same. don't have the shako but i cant beat Lilith or the uber versions of bosses because I cant do that much damage to them. I just fail at this build I guess :(
@@disbled problem is that they just copy alot of the builds and therefore they're never up2date, rob updates his planners almost daily if he finds something works better with the build, the maxroll builds that are actually cooked by someone from maxroll are usually pretty good, copy paste ones not so much
I found a Melted Heart on Day 2 or 3 and crafted a Shako, threw both on your Bash/HotA, and I've been having a blast, especially in PvP xD I'm surprised Druid Wind Shear didn't get mentioned. Ace pushed it to T116. It blows werenado out of the water in terms of ease of play/gearing (in my opinion, of course, which doesn't mean much lol). No Tyraels, no Tempest Roar, just a Godslayers, which anyone who's played druid before knows drops like candy from Duriel instead of Tempest Roar.
Hey Rob, what happened to video on how we were doing dmg calculations wrong and most of the build guides were going about it wrong. That was a great video and informative?
Hey rob i've been playing with the bash barb for some time now. Is the vid from 2 days ago i still gotta follow for this same exact build? The in-depth guide video? Would appreciate it alot if u could answer this. Much thanks to your vids and guides 😁
Why is there no builds around bloodwave? It seems to be one of the highest scaling abilities in the game, does it have improper interactions with stats?
Hey Rob, algorithm led me to you and I decided to give a try playing D4 and I see your bash barb looks like my playstyle. I was wondering if I can start out as bash or is there recommended beginner build/guide? Thank you 😊
I played through campaign with an all over the place fire sorc but endgame content was such a crawl I had to respec into this incinerate build and it's so much better now. Sad to see it doesn't hold a candle to these other builds. Might roll Barbarian for the lv50 hardcore achieve seems pretty tanky.
victimize double dipping is not a bug as far as i'm concerned, it works like it's worded. if anything bash multi on weapon tempers is a bug (that blizzard wanted to fix before people started crying)
Hello Rob! I am doing a werenado/tanknado and currently at pit 82. I have looked around at multiple builds and I am noticing that nobody uses wildheart hunger but instead metamorphosis boots. I do that as well but what is better? Wildheart has damage and damage reduction which are both good.
For the life of me, my Bash Barb and Necro can't get anywhere near these numbers and I follow these builds exactly! Glyphs ranked to 21, correct aspects, gear and tempers, I get the Procs etc. I'm playing on Xbox, do they hit harder on PC?
this season yes, but in general no, because builds benefits from season mechanics, like S1 malignant hearts, S2 vampiric powers and S3 seneschal, this season you can do the same build on eternal and seasonal realm because theres no mechanic, just changes on itemization.
Nah their necro build sucks balls atm for some reason. Several of their other builds are fine. I swapped to the version rob showed a day or two ago and I do a shit ton of more dmg. I'm pretty squishy though, so I have to figure that out.
Hey . Thanks for update. So now on D4builds i can find final version of skill tree and talents yes ? I mean i have minion necro, and rapid fire rogue (i can do 100 lvl ) and im thinkin if it is a purpose to change my skill tree and paragons ? Kind Regards Matt
I'm playing a minion necro and it's a lot of fun. I didn't think I'd like minions, but I do. AI needs tweaking, though, and I'd love to see them lose collision for better maneuverability in hallways/doorways. Also enjoying whatever the hell this Holy Bolt elixir bug is -- I'm in the 90s in the Pit and probably couldn't be killing these bosses without it. But watching a barb just chop off chunks of Lilith's life, in season 4 no less... time to make another barb. I'm gonna go "UHN! UHN! UHN! UHN!" with each chop.
So my takeaway is that rogues and necros need bugs and careful positioning/gameplay to be competitive with barb who is literally pushing one button (and maybe 3 if things get hairy). If they "fix" victimize and golem holy bolts then literally one class is left being viable for pit rushing.
I'm confused about the top necro builds. I started with the maxroll minion necro build. It seems it hits a wall at some point. Now there are countless adaptions of it, with different gear options. Is the Shadow Minion Necro one the way to go to get better at boss kills or one of Robs builds (Rob's Golem Minion Necro (S4) Pit 141+) / (2B Golem Boss Killer) / (Minion Summoner Necro High Pit Runs 131+). I don't want to start masterworking past rank 8 and potentially chosing a subpar build ^^. I currently can do Pit 100 max and I really struggle at the boss fight, even with Holy Bolt. Lilith I can't kill at all :(
What would you say out of all your barb builds i.e bleed build boss build etc is the best all round to be to destroy all pits tiers/dungeons and the tormented bosses?
Can anyone explain the temper roll? I’m at level 82 and am only this high for the first time. I’m doing pit and nightmare but outside of the occultist changing one thing I don’t get the temper roll
When a bugged Rogue build is doing the same as a non-bugged Barbarian build, we have in my opinion two problems: 1) Wrong math calculation in the code in the Rogue DPS 2) Wrong math calculation in the Blizzard side when trying to proper balance stuff. What will they do if they "fix" the Rogue bug? Nerf Bash and bring it to where the balance line is? ... And no, I am not playing Rogue right now, lol.
The rogue build isn't bugged. Double-dipping is not a bug. Victimize deals damage based on the attack that procced it, the Victimize attack is also increased by CC, Vuln, Crit etc. The double-dipping is intended and is not bugged.
@@MiniDemonic You are assuming it is intended. The community as far as I saw assumes the oposite. Blizzard itself did not said anything until now, but the consent is that it can get fixed anytime.
Thorns do more damage than a chain lightning sorceress, something doesn't fit with the balance team concepts Let's hope that for the mid-season patch, they will solve the problem of not being able to make Uber duriel with chain lightning or any other build
Everytime i try and use the hota variant it just seems worse than the standard bash, for damage output and survivability. No idea why? Have shako and 21 lvl glyphs
hey, can someone explain why get 70%+ resistences? I was checking the bleed barb build and is saying to use resist jewelry + tempering, so we get over the cap resistence.
I hit 100 and can farm 61 quick, less than 6 mins, I play Golem Necro. Minion Necro guide on maxroll. I ended up getting a Shako and double crit rolling cooldown reduction, the golem 1 shots Duriel. Can clear LV200 Torment duriel in about 5 mins
I've just started playing the bash barb and I have the correct tempers and affixes on all of my gear, but I guess it's just not good enough because I'm hitting for no more than 60-80M and definitely can't kill a Tormented Uber...Most of my gear still doesn't have greater affixes and is not masterworked, so I suppose that would help, but my RNG is horrible and I can't seem to get the correct GAs...any tips?
Its sad when the blizzard guides tell you to not level blizzard at all and only put 1 point in it because all the damage comes from the ice spike aspect lol.
I've been talking for so long lets enjoy that video for a second.... literally 1 second later.. This is the best build...... Also recommending a build that has trouble with aoe damage to beginners. My kind of humor 👹
My Tier List S4: d4builds.gg/tierlist/
Watch live at www.twitch.tv/rob2628
Here are my updated top 10 builds for Season 4. You can find the video links in my sheet with more information.
Sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bN8C_Fe9nrWv__jUc_Vdbl220g4NM0mlux-ga_s_-5s/edit#gid=6446027
Timestamps
00:00 Explanation
01:15 Rank 10 Werenado Druid @booomerok
03:33 Rank 9 Bone Spirit Necro @kingpig8978
05:26 Rank 8 Dust Devil Barb @Juneck
07:38 Rank 7 Wind Shear Druid @Goblin-Inc
09:17 Rank 6 Fire Bolt Sorc @Mekuna7
11:35 Rank 5 Rapid Fire Rog @LuckyLuciano6
13:19 Rank 4 Victimize Rog @moranich
17:11 Rank 3 Thorns Barb @DoNotHitMe-kb4jy
19:48 Rank 2 Minion Necro @thesssainentertainment8927
23:24 Rank 1 Bash Barb @Rob2628
ty rob! this tier list might change again after tuesday's patch drop
Hey Rob, is it possible to get your old bash paragon? I didn't screen shot it and changed to Hota bash but would like it back. It hits harder but had less health and I'm ok with dodging... When I tried to go back I noticed you changed everything...
the bash build is certainly a bug that blizzard prefer to not fix this season
Hey Rob, bring doch gern Mal was auf deutsch zu Diablo 😅
I tried your thorns barb build and it took 6 minutes to take down a tier 46 pit boss. Am I missing something? I used the Uber set up.
We seriously need an armory as soon as possible. Would love to be able to swap builds on any one character without having to clear the paragon and skills board every single damn time.
Amen 🙏🏻
Tell me about it. Shit is ratchet af.
This is the reason why i stop playing early every season....
My ADHD brain needs to play different builds all day and i dont have the time to level each class multiple times :(
Absolutely, it's stupid that this wasn't in the game since launch, it's more stupid that it's still not here in season 4... It needs priority asap.
We are playing a bare bones console game ported to PC. Of course its scuff af
Barb health bar not moving in 132: Awww, you're sweet.
Sorc health bar not moving in 117: Hello, Human resources?!
😇
A shield that never goes away vs massive amounts of health... yeah, those aren't comparable at all. Being completely immune to damage is game breaking.
@@TheSheff45 yeah because barb with 4 stat sticks an extra aspects in itself isnt game breaking...
@@Bob-n9z8h you must be shit at math so lets fix this for you. The barbarian only has a single stick more than rogue and can very easily still die. Sorc, COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE AND NOT JUST FUNCTIONALLY IMMORTAL...ACTUALLY IMORTAL. i know you like to pretend that when you were a child putting in the god mode cheat while playing wasn't actually cheating but there is a difference and you should probably keep the dumb to yourself.
@TheSheff45 immune? Dudes clearly never played sorcerer. God forbid the wind blows towards my sorc with three defensives and maxed DR/Armor because hes for sure gonna die.
Sorc don't have the dps to catch up with everyone, needs big buff. Nice tier list Rob.
Just made a sorc last night (only lvl 68) but its pretty fun imo... Im a minion necro main since day 1 got about 3 lvl 100 necros lol but been having fun on sorc right now... Gonna make a druid never once my sorc hits 100.
@@subzero308 Sorc is definitely a lot of fun, and SUPER fast for blasting through lower level stuff. But for a list like this that's all centered around Pit, it really does need some help in the damage department.
A buff to singel taget on fronzen orb and a buff overall would be nice for sorc, also Druid need buffs
@@Froztymannee the sorc is sooo fun in the helltides.
Sorc need a hard buff for Chain Lightning, ice shards, incinerate, meteor, etc!!!
The release of the Pit has really elevated your channel. I like how there is now a real purpose for people to be pushing their builds and you’re doing a better job than anyone at covering them. Keep it up
he could do with less clickbait and sensationalism.
The problem with the Minion build, if you're not good at dodging boss mechanics (if you're a semi noob/ causal) and gear isn't min maxed to one shot boss kills, without holy bolt glitch (if it's just the boss) you get 1 -shot instantly, even with 40+ life, so something like bone-storm is a bit tankier even if it's not that great for dps and you still eventually get one shotted against the more tricky tormented bosses
yeah, but the build is so boring its not worth min maxing anyways tbh.
@@RigRacers Nah, it's a great build. I can flip on Prime or whatever streaming while playing D4. Win win imo.
@@JerBuster77 exactly the point, you literally don't play the game lmao. That's boring AF and feels kinda pointless to me
@@RigRacers softcore player
I accidentally played bash when i hit sround 45. Got the dust devil codex, but had bash on bar. Realised bash was 1 shotting mobs compared to trying to spam dust devils and having no fury constantly. Went full bash, was stupidly OP. Crazy buildz love it
I’m playing double swing with some dust devil aspects, followed maxroll, and I’m lv 40. You think switching to bash this soon would be better? I’m all for being more powerful lol.
@@tman41291I'm back to dust devil as I have all the leg powers now and some perfect items for it. It's super fast and fun, Bash is better for higher tier Pit though.
@@padcontrol1 i did dust devil double strike until I was struggling at 65 pits. Switched to bash and have a semi shit set of gear of for bash, and I'm SLAMMING 90s and such. dust devil was so fun in everything until very high end game stuff and then u hit a wall. Bash is the way.
@@tman41291 Unfortunately the dust devil build hits a wall fairly quickly. You won't even touch the tormented bosses or high pits, you just don't have the damage. Bash is the way to go for end game, I made the swap a few days ago and its a night and day difference. I even beat tormented varshan for the first time solo, I can FINALLY do damage to bosses. It sucks cuz the whirlwind dust devil build was so much more fun, but its damage is trash in end game.
@@Rukia541 yup, hitting the wall, bash here I come
I'm glade you show case a lot of the Chinese builds, I think they have a different mentality when it comes to gaming and it's interesting to see how they play the game.
Thanks! They sure do - super hardcore 💯
Yea they ruin games go look on any trade site and look at who’s posting and prices then go look we’re gold sellers come from.
I hate what they've done with sorc. It is just sad.
There gotta be first for everything right? 😂 it’s been season for sorc like every season until this
@@KingKikikoi
Season 1 she was one of the worst,
Season 2 she was top through bugs until AoZ, then Barb pulled ahead
Season 3 was also Barb
Sorc is great in Speedfarm content and crap in "Endgame". If they didn't nerf the PTR version it would at least be somewhat competitive...
@@KingKikikoi
Every season is like this:
Barb: OP. Facetanking and ripping everything on the screen
Rog: OP
Necro: OP
Druid: decent
Sorc: hardmode. Zero damage and surviveability, one niche build for boss fights (blizzard). Trash-ass uniques, no build variety.
And yea, i played sorc every season and the best part of the jorney was leveling. Endgame is not for sorc.
@@psirex6 nope it will still be the same with the barb having all attack speed on 4x weapons.
sorc will make a comeback just like all classes
Hi Rob the planners from the Chinese Victimize and penta rogue don’t load on your build list, can you link them again please? 🙌
@rob2628 same looking for the penshot build in English PLEASE 🙏 and thanks
have one of you found it
I was looking for it too!
That #2 minion necro, he was able to kill that boss because it summons ads that die quickly but proc the holy bolt elixir. If you see the kill, boss dies the moment the elixir procs. Without the elixir, he wouldn't have been able to kill it or it would have taken him a very long time, close to time expiring.
without holy bolt he wouldnt clear anything above 115s and thats generous.
you mean using one of the seasonal mechanics inside the seasonal event? no fuckin way!!!!!
@@thedarkness125 its a known glitch
Every class in high pits is using that potion where you been dude
@@thedarkness125 Doesn't seem that your stupid comment will age well after the upcoming fix to holy bolt.
Is Victimize going to get nerfed? should i stop investing into Rogue?
Good stuff, first barb this season and lovin it. Haven't completley finished leveling everything yet, but dust devil has been fantastic for speed farming for me, so tanky, but the bash barb looks sick, definitely will lean into that for the end game.
i just discovered the wind shear druid build. Tried this afternoon and liked it a lot at 62. No unique yet. For Bash Barb, I use the Iron Skin starter build with Fierce Winds in place of Elemental. Like it a lot. Done a 100 nightmare, but did not do high level pit or bosses yet. This is great for casual players. Leveled to 100 very fast.
Rob, you said that you killed Lilith with not great gear. How not great was it :) I'm struggling to hurt her, but I've only just started mastercrafting. How high was your gear?
My bash barb is not nearly that tanky or strong. Followed your build. I think it is just gearing and getting my master working from 8 to 12
same. don't have the shako but i cant beat Lilith or the uber versions of bosses because I cant do that much damage to them. I just fail at this build I guess :(
Hi Rob,
I was wondering if you had a link to the victimize pen shot build you listed that was doing a ton of damage. Really like pen shot!
37 barbillion damage is crazy! 😂 Awesome video, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed!
Thoughts on Boulder Druid once it’s fixed on Tuesday?
Solid B or maybe even A Tier! I am hyped
на сколько же невероятное количество работы проделано, спасибо тебе большое за столь подробное видео!
Why is Rapid Fire in S when Scoundrels kiss is still completely broken?
Awesome video Rob and a great compilation of modern builds. Thank you on behalf of the D4 community.
Why do we get the earthquake aspect if we dont use ground stomp? Is there something that triggers it?
how can a basic attack deal much more dmg than even ultimate skills of other classes? No balance in d4
would be good to see more hardcore builds, not sure if these are?
Which builds this season feel good to play on console?
Thank you Rob, your site is the best when it comes to builds. I'm so done with garbageroll builds... Maxroll builds are so f*cking out of touch.
glad it helps :)
So maxroll had the exact same list as Rob and they are out of touch, wtf is wrong with you
@@kennethsjvold9212man i build bash barb from maxroll and is terrible like so ass, then i build rob build and damn huge difference
Maxroll build guides are mediocre, but the maxroll planner is 10x better than d4builds
@@disbled problem is that they just copy alot of the builds and therefore they're never up2date, rob updates his planners almost daily if he finds something works better with the build, the maxroll builds that are actually cooked by someone from maxroll are usually pretty good, copy paste ones not so much
i'm going to try your bash barb for my first barb. do i level using the iron skin starter build or is that where i start when i hit 50?
I found a Melted Heart on Day 2 or 3 and crafted a Shako, threw both on your Bash/HotA, and I've been having a blast, especially in PvP xD
I'm surprised Druid Wind Shear didn't get mentioned. Ace pushed it to T116. It blows werenado out of the water in terms of ease of play/gearing (in my opinion, of course, which doesn't mean much lol). No Tyraels, no Tempest Roar, just a Godslayers, which anyone who's played druid before knows drops like candy from Duriel instead of Tempest Roar.
07:38 in the video
Wish variant? Boss killer or pit farm?
Hey Rob, what happened to video on how we were doing dmg calculations wrong and most of the build guides were going about it wrong. That was a great video and informative?
Hey rob i've been playing with the bash barb for some time now. Is the vid from 2 days ago i still gotta follow for this same exact build? The in-depth guide video? Would appreciate it alot if u could answer this. Much thanks to your vids and guides 😁
yes, the video 2 days ago is up-to date :)
@@Rob2628 thx for the fast reply man. I love to see it 😁
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Why is there no builds around bloodwave? It seems to be one of the highest scaling abilities in the game, does it have improper interactions with stats?
Thank you Rob! This is awesome 🍻
You're welcome!
@@Rob2628 I've tried your Bash Build with HOTA, but I'm just not getting that huge DPS increase after Hota, what am I doing wrong?
Hey Rob, algorithm led me to you and I decided to give a try playing D4 and I see your bash barb looks like my playstyle. I was wondering if I can start out as bash or is there recommended beginner build/guide?
Thank you 😊
I played through campaign with an all over the place fire sorc but endgame content was such a crawl I had to respec into this incinerate build and it's so much better now. Sad to see it doesn't hold a candle to these other builds. Might roll Barbarian for the lv50 hardcore achieve seems pretty tanky.
So glad I started with barb this season I like having variety
Barb nation
victimize double dipping is not a bug as far as i'm concerned, it works like it's worded. if anything bash multi on weapon tempers is a bug (that blizzard wanted to fix before people started crying)
When will the bugged builds get fixed?
Your build link for bash barb uses different skills than what is shown in your video.
Rob, hi, why have you deleted the Tyrael version of the Bash build from your guide?
It’s back again sorry - click the tap above in the planner
Hello Rob! I am doing a werenado/tanknado and currently at pit 82. I have looked around at multiple builds and I am noticing that nobody uses wildheart hunger but instead metamorphosis boots. I do that as well but what is better? Wildheart has damage and damage reduction which are both good.
is the bash barb build doing 1billion+ hits with no holy bolts?
For the life of me, my Bash Barb and Necro can't get anywhere near these numbers and I follow these builds exactly! Glyphs ranked to 21, correct aspects, gear and tempers, I get the Procs etc.
I'm playing on Xbox, do they hit harder on PC?
Would you recommend playing one of your bleed builds before getting some of the recommended Uber uniques?
bash did get the nerf tho due to the multiplier change did it not?
I'm on ps5 and can't find people to play with. Any recommendations
Goblin Inc came up with a new Druid build with natures fury proccing, maybe you can check it out too?
Hi rob i have a question,build in season are same in eternal? items,
gliph,gear ecc?
this season yes, but in general no, because builds benefits from season mechanics, like S1 malignant hearts, S2 vampiric powers and S3 seneschal, this season you can do the same build on eternal and seasonal realm because theres no mechanic, just changes on itemization.
Rob when you said Tuesday update is that today ? Or next week
It seems I have been using the wrong necro build. max roll seems to be slacking lately. or maybe it's me slacking
Nah their necro build sucks balls atm for some reason. Several of their other builds are fine. I swapped to the version rob showed a day or two ago and I do a shit ton of more dmg. I'm pretty squishy though, so I have to figure that out.
@@Psikick4 Yeah going to do the same since I have a lvl 100. see how it goes. probably for the better
The 1st image is cool, link please?
Is the WW bleed not S tier ???
Hey . Thanks for update. So now on D4builds i can find final version of skill tree and talents yes ? I mean i have minion necro, and rapid fire rogue (i can do 100 lvl ) and im thinkin if it is a purpose to change my skill tree and paragons ? Kind Regards Matt
I like thorns since reflect items in mu online, but the razorplat doesn't drop
I'm playing a minion necro and it's a lot of fun. I didn't think I'd like minions, but I do. AI needs tweaking, though, and I'd love to see them lose collision for better maneuverability in hallways/doorways. Also enjoying whatever the hell this Holy Bolt elixir bug is -- I'm in the 90s in the Pit and probably couldn't be killing these bosses without it. But watching a barb just chop off chunks of Lilith's life, in season 4 no less... time to make another barb. I'm gonna go "UHN! UHN! UHN! UHN!" with each chop.
So my takeaway is that rogues and necros need bugs and careful positioning/gameplay to be competitive with barb who is literally pushing one button (and maybe 3 if things get hairy). If they "fix" victimize and golem holy bolts then literally one class is left being viable for pit rushing.
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can someone explain to me the mechanic and rotation of the necro minion golem build please ? cheers all
Sorc got to 120 but only by using a mechanic that blizz is probably going to remove from the game. I really hope we get some major help.
Sorc and Druid will hopefully get a huge Mid Season Buff
ROB I follow the parago to the tee but I'm always 1 or 2 points short I've checked the board over an over why is this. On ps5
I'm confused about the top necro builds. I started with the maxroll minion necro build. It seems it hits a wall at some point. Now there are countless adaptions of it, with different gear options. Is the Shadow Minion Necro one the way to go to get better at boss kills or one of Robs builds (Rob's Golem Minion Necro (S4) Pit 141+) / (2B Golem Boss Killer) / (Minion Summoner Necro High Pit Runs 131+). I don't want to start masterworking past rank 8 and potentially chosing a subpar build ^^. I currently can do Pit 100 max and I really struggle at the boss fight, even with Holy Bolt. Lilith I can't kill at all :(
What would you say out of all your barb builds i.e bleed build boss build etc is the best all round to be to destroy all pits tiers/dungeons and the tormented bosses?
Bash Barb iron skin version got you covered 💪🏻
@@Rob2628 Is it worth having crit damage tempering on iron skin barb?
Can anyone explain the temper roll? I’m at level 82 and am only this high for the first time. I’m doing pit and nightmare but outside of the occultist changing one thing I don’t get the temper roll
Hi! whats ur fav pvp build and boss killer and can u link it? ty! i prefer iwth ubers like harlequin, tyrael, starless sky .. thank u vm!!!!!!
When a bugged Rogue build is doing the same as a non-bugged Barbarian build, we have in my opinion two problems:
1) Wrong math calculation in the code in the Rogue DPS
2) Wrong math calculation in the Blizzard side when trying to proper balance stuff.
What will they do if they "fix" the Rogue bug? Nerf Bash and bring it to where the balance line is? ...
And no, I am not playing Rogue right now, lol.
The rogue build isn't bugged. Double-dipping is not a bug.
Victimize deals damage based on the attack that procced it, the Victimize attack is also increased by CC, Vuln, Crit etc. The double-dipping is intended and is not bugged.
@@MiniDemonic You are assuming it is intended. The community as far as I saw assumes the oposite. Blizzard itself did not said anything until now, but the consent is that it can get fixed anytime.
I'm actually following your rapid fire build not the Luckyluciano one is there ans big différence Between them ?
When is the mid season patch coming?
A patch is coming later today but it's nowhere near a mid season one
I'm using the CN Bleed pit 130+ build but I am not getting the damage, uber lilith barely takes enough damage I am curious why that is.
Thank you from russian player, start season with yours bash build and its really insane, really fun, thank you a lot
Can you make a tier list of classes with ubers?
Well done rob!i am done too with maxroll. Raxx has been so exhausting to watch lately. He is so negative and seems lost.
Thorns do more damage than a chain lightning sorceress, something doesn't fit with the balance team concepts
Let's hope that for the mid-season patch, they will solve the problem of not being able to make Uber duriel with chain lightning or any other build
Yy
would bone spirit benefit from melted heart? 60 essence seems strong
Yea for sure - however guaranteed overpower with bashing is pretty insane aswel!
Everytime i try and use the hota variant it just seems worse than the standard bash, for damage output and survivability. No idea why? Have shako and 21 lvl glyphs
Can you link the penshot victimize build ?
So if you have a razor plate how easy it to get the thorns build going? Is it as easy as it looks?
Yes
Can the bash build be used from lvl 50 onward or do you need to be 80+?
I just got Tyraels might and really wanna make the tanky wind druid...
Is there a guid somewhere?
Wich class could take uber lillith with ease?
Any news on the Hurricane Druid?
hey, can someone explain why get 70%+ resistences? I was checking the bleed barb build and is saying to use resist jewelry + tempering, so we get over the cap resistence.
Is the thorn bash build from maxroll good for this end game torment boss content ?
Yes
Makuna's Skill tree has an issue, He shows an Lightning bolt in his bar but no skillpoints assigned.
What do you think is the best necro build to speed farm pit 65? Lazymancer seemed squishy, but maybe with a few ubers and masterworking it might work?
I hit 100 and can farm 61 quick, less than 6 mins, I play Golem Necro. Minion Necro guide on maxroll. I ended up getting a Shako and double crit rolling cooldown reduction, the golem 1 shots Duriel. Can clear LV200 Torment duriel in about 5 mins
Just put on holy bolts elixir.
What about the thorns necro summoner build
Hey Rob which build do you think is the best pit farming build and at what level?
Bash Barb is best overall once level 100
I've just started playing the bash barb and I have the correct tempers and affixes on all of my gear, but I guess it's just not good enough because I'm hitting for no more than 60-80M and definitely can't kill a Tormented Uber...Most of my gear still doesn't have greater affixes and is not masterworked, so I suppose that would help, but my RNG is horrible and I can't seem to get the correct GAs...any tips?
To thought the immortal firebolt aorc build was made by someone else and not mekuna?
Hey Rob, it’s everybody! ❤
What is the most HC friendly? This bash barb or the thorns one?
Bash without perfect gear. Thorns with perfect gear
@@droid5785 ty for answering!
@@FoAMDFun ty for playing HC, the real d4
On bash barb are you typically taking elixir of fort or holy bolts?
Holy bolts for more aoe - it really helps a lot compared to the small bash cleave aoe
Does anyone have a link to that pen shot rogue build?
Pls blizzard buff sorc 😥
I wish they add a 3rd enchant
Its sad when the blizzard guides tell you to not level blizzard at all and only put 1 point in it because all the damage comes from the ice spike aspect lol.
Buff All!! Chain lightning, ice shards, incinerate, meteor, etc!!
@@ExtremeFighter Check out the newest rage gaming Frozen Orb build. 3rd enchant (;
@@ExtremeFighter still wouldn't be competitive
My bash best hit = 10M
Rob normal bash = 60M
XD
Nice tier list mate, GG!
Gigachad Rob at it again, great video dude thanks for the breakdown.
I've been talking for so long lets enjoy that video for a second.... literally 1 second later.. This is the best build......
Also recommending a build that has trouble with aoe damage to beginners. My kind of humor 👹
Hey Rob, is Grandfather optimal to run in my mage necromancer build? I have it and am not sure whether to use it or not.
sadly no, blight aspect on 2h weapon is way too strong at the moment
@@Rob2628 awww man, thank you for letting me know. What good builds can run Grandfather?
What is the double dipping on the rogue? I don't understand
Where do you see that leaderboard?
how come you have hota in the video but dont use it?
bossing setup in the planner