It’s still hard to believe how bad quality control is within just 2 years, it’s definitely not worth paying over MSRP, I am thinking to pick a used one when it’s really cheap as a supplement to my LC500
As a soon to be owner of a C8, this was one of the best informational videos I've watched. My C8 will be a daily driver.. Why own one if you aren't going to drive it? Thanks!
I appreciate your honesty man. It goes to show even if you spend a good chunk of change you can still come across interior wear and some quality control. Often the picture gets painted that more you spend = it’s always better in every form or fashion. Very surprised to see about how easy the leather wears in this car but once again I appreciate your honesty. I Drive a Stinger GT AWD and even that car at 50k people complain about small things and I’ll be honest the leather and bolster wear in mine isn’t as bad as what you’re dealing with and I’m at 48k miles (still low in the grand scheme of things but still) You have a great personality and I appreciate your honest review, and pointed out some flaws.
Thats the deal with high end materials . They are nicer , better to the touch but wear MUCH faster . RSPECIALLY IF YOU WEAR DENIM , Jeans are rough sliding in and out on soft materials .The Bolsters and seats in my 2019 Hyundai GT N line look perfect ( pretty nice seats) but they are made of less supple material . I prefer the " lesser material " , I dont notice it when Im driving or caress my seats much and would prefer better wearing then soft leather that wears in 20K like i have on my nicer cars . Cheaper seats look a little cheaper new but LOOK BETTER in just couple years and DONT WEAR AT ALL in some cases , so give me stiffer leather or fake leather. Higher end car interiors of any brand always wear more then less 3expensive cars in general . Just fine leather clothes and shoes scratch and wear faster the less expensive leather . Had baby deer skin Dan Post Boots that fit like socks and beautiful. but scratched if they touched carpet and 25 wears and they are essentially ratty looking , they are not knock around shoes and rich people can afford new clothes like changing underwear. The bubbling dash is a pure defect and a BAD on GMs part , that is a defect. But the finer the materials the worse they look with wear. Suede interior stuff gets gross and looks like shit quick as well . price you pay for being swanky and your supposed to get a new car every 2-3 years if your monied, thats why ,money people lease and always have new cars .
BIG THANKS. I still have C8 on order. One of my C5 has 224,000 miles. Autocross yes. Lost transmission 196,000 autocrossing. Yes same problem with both C5 seats. Love my C4 for autocrossing. My 1972 I've had for 40 of her 50 years. Agsin honest. Thanks. You are the highest milage I've seen. My best friend has a C7 Z06 Manuel. He will not give it up.
I mean I don’t know how many diff cars you have owned but seat bolsters wear on every make and model some then others but it’s the nature of the beast.
Yep ED I got 4 Corvettes I race a C5 Z06 cars got over 100K miles. I got a C8 Z06 manual car I will never get rid of it. Got a C2 Coup pro touring car I’ve owned for 40 years. Just bought a C8 HTC Z51 car. You just can’t go wrong with a Corvette for cost for performance. The C8 Z06 will be a game changer.
Yes, transmission fluid every 50k. I understand 30k is preferred after the fact. Transmission failed at 196,000 miles at the end of a autocross lap. This was a Z51, I autocross alot. By the way I still beat my competitors and I drove it home. My transmission guy was also a club member and said drive it home. A C5 a great car. I currently have a C6 GS.
I got a 2023 C8 about 400 miles the transmission went out it took a while to get it back had to wait 25 days to get it back but once I got the car back so far so good no problems 🙏🏾
Really useful video for this C6 owner looking to eventually go to a C8. While I have been delighted with the reliability of my car (and it is no garage queen), I think the interior of the C7 is much nicer and the C8 a step above that. The issues with the C8 here seem to be pretty minor if you look at costs of running a true exotic but GM really should have had those struts covered! There have been issues with wheels on wide-body C7s and auto transmissions in them so it is really good to have a video like this pointing out potential problems in the C8. Thanks!
14k miles on mine and zero issues. No signs of wear on the interior either. Granted it's not 20k miles yet but holding up like a champ. Very impressed with the quality of the C8.
My goodness my man you are so informative great presentation you got right to the point and did a great job the lapel mic is as clear as it can be no mistaking of the words you seem to be enjoying your life to the fullest once again great job keep up the good work
That happened to my BMW. I have a leather dash and it bubbled up. I got it fixed by my local car shop(they do interior modifications) and after it was fixed I got my windshield tinted with a UV protection. Hasn’t bubbled up since then.
Great review! I've watched a lot of different corvette videos and reviews, and most owners don't drive em on the daily. It's nice to see a vette owner drive it more than 2000 miles a year. Enjoy it! I drive my ss1le as much as I can!😂
I have a 2020 C8 and will have had it 2yrs in June and love it! No issues thus far, tho a friend of mine had his in the shop for DCT and after 8wks he got it back with new transmission. I’ve added LPE exhaust and pTR Lingenfelter intake, UPR catch can and some other things. The car is a dream and I’m shy 6k on the odometer and now that I’m fully retired I plan to get in more seat time. Great review and the things you mentioned like screens up front I did day one since my Camaro SS with ZL1 front end needed the same protection. I have screens in the side intake vents as well. Pretty much my mindset was this is a car I plan to hold onto, so it’s protected all the way around, inside and out!
Great review. I have 2020 #551 with 20,300 miles. So far. knock wood, I've had no issues. Traded a C7 Z06 which was a monster track car, but I like the C8 for different reasons. I also have a C5 that's my overall favorite of 9 Corvettes I've loved over 40+ years.
Thanks for posting. Good to hear from someone who does use it as a daily drive. The dash problem and transmission problem are worrisome. Appreciate the candidness.
I have a 2020 c8 1lt. Luckily I haven't had any issues. Mine was made after they shut the plant down for covid.We took it down to Bowling Green Kentucky to visit the Corvette museum. Awesome road trip! I have only 4,000 miles on it. I call it my touring car, very comfortable!
We bought our 2020 earlier this but w 4500 miles on her, had the large dash pad replaced under warranty(which has expired now) due to leather detaching & have had the DCT serviced @ 7500 miles, the new recommended interval is 7500 mile filter changes which are quite pricy but overall the level of quality in impressive and the car drives like a dream. We have had 4 C6s & 2 C7s, the interior on the C8 is an incredible upgrade.
One thing I’ve noticed with Corvettes, I’ve owned 8, is you never buy the first year of any generation or upgrade like a Z06. There’s a learning curve for Corvette’s and GM works the bugs out of the car usually by the second year of the generation. I was also told by my dealer on my C8 to get the brake in tranny fluid out of the transmission after 2000 miles. GM recommends 7000 miles but I had both engine and trans oil changed at 2000 miles.
@@jtbuilds123 I’m a big believer in get the most upgrades you can afford. Resale value is always better and in the future higher upgrades especially performance packages are more collectible and worth more. Base Corvettes are all over the place I get the Z51 package at minimum or the Z06. Custom upgrade reliably depends totally on the company doing the work. I recently had a harness bar, harnesses, fire extinguisher and Nitrous put on my C8 Z51 HTC. The company I used is top notch so no problems.
I have a 2019 C7 Grand Sport and absolutely love it. I test drove a C8 non-51 2lt and C8 3lt with Z51 and the C8 Z51 felt amazing. Non z51 didn't feel terrible but definitely not as sharp. Aside from obviously being faster it felt just as good as my GS. It's plenty enough fast for me and rides super smooth with the continental DWS extreme contact tires. C7 feels more raw and like an actual Vette, C8 feels more refined but not like a Vette to me. Interior is definitely a step up. Both are definitely great cars and turn heads on the road.
I’ve had a transmission valve body repair at 12k miles, 13k miles a failed transmission on my 2020. There several 2020s like crazy amount of bad transmissions, also 21 and 22s.
I just sold my 2021 C8 with 12,800 miles like you I enjoyed it very much. but living in the north east can't drive it in 4 to 5 months of the year snow.
Wow, just came across this. One of the best reviews of the C8 and how it compares against the prior gens and how it holds up. Thank you. I really wish they kept the manual, just not the same thing to drive an auto, even a fast one like this bad boy. Is it easy to get the tail to slide in a controlled way and how is the steering rack quickness and road feel from the steering?
I appreciate it! Feel and quickness is pretty great with the steering. As far as a controlled slide goes, I haven't tried it so I couldn't accurately explain.
It is not easy to get in a controlled slide. Generally you do not want to do that in a mid-engined vehicle due the weight distribution. With less grip on the front tires, and more on the rear it can bite much more violently, doubly so if you experience understeer from it.
@@sunnyvalentino dude , i agree w weasle, but if you can drive - it's like the honda 3 wheeler, you have to hop it into the slide and scream out. bust them tires slightly loose - that's the hard part , they are wide & sticky.....damn , riding on the edge is so much fun , it's worse than crak and probably more expensive , w/ the blu lite specials, and the price of tires. safe travels....
Great video..I appreciate the honesty. Ive owned Ferrari and Lambo as well, and for those that think this isn't a super..it is. And the amazing part is, you will have a GM warranty..where on the expensive brands..Talk to anyone u know.they have major issues as well especially Ferrari, the Huracan is an exception. That's huge because you get amazing reliability, I just ordered a convertible.
Hopefully they start to address some of these QC issues in the upcoming model years. Seems like the leak over the struts could be easily fixed since there are aftermarket parts that do this already. Buying a first year GM model is always a gamble. Especially for a car that is fundamentally all new like the C8. Hopefully the transmission reliability is as impressive as how well it performs.
Yeah my father got one and he has owned it for a couple years and it only has 500 or so miles on it and I put half of that on it myself just trying it out and taking it to a couple places for special events (like my Nephew's birthday to bring him for a ride in it). Awesome car, love driving it but it would be tough as a daily driver. I would be scared of rough roads, parking anywhere, other drivers, etc... basically scared of hurting his baby (he worked all his life and this was his dream car that he saved up and paid for all in cash in one go). I really wish it got more use though, 500 miles isn't even close to broken in. Luckily he got the front lift as we live in Maine, a MUST HAVE up here.Bolsters is from getting in and out. I bet you have a lot of scratches on the foot-well part too (I really wish they hadn't done a massive painted area there with only a small metal bit as a foot pad which really isn't even for that).
Thanks for the great vid, my 2020 HTC has only 9000 miles and I use it like you do, no garage queen. Mine was one of the last 2020s built in September of 2020, I am not seeing any of the wear, or dash bubbling. My seats are red and I expect some fading ( badly on my BMW) but not yet. I have had absolutely no issues or hiccups. ( This is my first Corvette or American car)
@@maxsergio13 No, I replaced it at the suggested interval. Update, I have 18000 miles now. not one issue, hiccup or problem. I have a new baby now, so, the C8 goes to Costco and grocery stores mostly..
Ahh nice.... so my 2020 has 7,300 miles ill b doing dct filter at 7500 miles but my trans oil life is 65 percent. Its also a 2020 z51 but i dnt thinks trans fluid has ever been changed but shifts perfectly fine. Ill prob jst wait until fluid life hits 10 percent to change it @@fortijr
@@maxsergio13 The DCT is VERY expensive to repair and or replace, I would highly suggest to be more cautious and change it either by millage or age, whichever is earlier. It may cost you a couple of thousand more over 10 years, but it’s probably a fraction of the repair cost. Just my suggestion.
Thanks makes sense just that the 65 percent oil trans life it says i mean monitors the trans fluid so im assuming theres still oife since its at 65 percent. @@fortijr
Good job! I drive the hell out of my car! Got a 16 ATSV and same, dropped 25k miles on my car. A few trips back n forth to Whidbey Island from Silicon Valley
1lt-2lt dash boards on C7 and C8s usually don't bubble up or warp/shrink (because its synthetic) The real stuff is nice but nobody including Ferrari has figured out how to make the real leather last. Another big problem that applies to any car from any manufacturer when it comes to interior wear is body sweat and the natural oils from one's body building up on surfaces over time. Combine that with the heat from direct and indirect sunlight and you will accelerate the wear process. Best solutions is investing in great microfiber towels, interior detail solutions and 20-30 minutes of free time every so often (depending on how often you use the car) I have a c7 with 35k miles and leather, plastic and finishes are holding up very well.
My 2016 Stingray was a 2LT, and the center console bubbled just as bad. Not sure the exact materials, but it seems regardless of 1, 2, or 3LT, the "leather" has lamination issues.
I was really dreaming of getting a C8 and the issues addressed and what I've read online is killing that dream. I've always been a Mopar guy and this would be my 1st corvette and maybe by the time I can afford a C8 the issues will be worked out
Thank you for the video. I had the C7, within three months I owned it, I had to take it back to the dealer for electronic issues where it spent over a month before it was fixed. Now, I am very interested in the C8-Z06, but still wonder if I should give GM another chance.
I feel your pain. I had a C5 Z06 that let me down multiple times due to mechanical failures,… and then to see the C7 Z go into limp mode on track due to cooling issues, I am super weary of the next Vette product. I am actually eyeing a new Lotus Emira pretty heavily…power is enough, looks way better, and true 3 pedals…
P.S. the Z was a phenomenal driver though, and surprisingly practical for daily driving…just, over all spent the most of any car I’ve owned on breakage. Dropped a valve at 50 k miles, rear diff gone at 70k, and a ton of little stuff, a ton…
Crazy Corvette Driver Man....LOL. One of the most fun cars on the planet for the dollar. GM and interiors...money drives that, which can be frustrating. The visual on their stuff, new, is great. After some heat cycles...well, like all OEM's today...things decay interior wise.
without the lift package do you have issues getting into parking lots and going over speed bumps. I have ordered a C8 Z51 without lift and was wondering if I should have it added to my order. Mine will be a daily driver also.
i have a 2020 C8 , #2465, w/ almost 24K and i can't stop driving it. i'd rather walk away from a blu eyed blond than lose my C8 :-) i just checked my dash and did not see any issues but now that i'm aware , i'll be watching. i like the C8 enuf that i ordered another one on 2/11/22. i hope the next one is as good as 2465 has been.....
Great info and Yes Ciocca in Atlantic City NJ used to be called Kerbecks I put my deposit down in Sept 9 mo's ago there . I have a C5 had a trans rebuild but at 110k miles, scares me that there are all these trans issues . Let me ask you this can the wifi and on star be disabled from the infotainment screen? I get headaches when siting close to wifi and other wireless so rather turn that off , I was able to turn it off in a loaner 2020 Camaro when my C5 was in the shop . Can you turn it off in the C8? If not I may go with the 1LT since I believe it has less wireless junk then the 2LT Thanks for any in put or info
I would love to give a recommendation, however, I don't have a large amount of driving experience in the 2LT to be able to tell you if there is a large difference in interior quality. As far as I'm aware, the materials are the exact same. Just the placement of certain leather pieces, I.E the dash, are different between 2LT and 3LT. I believe the wear problem would be similar with either tier.
I have a 2020 Corvette C8 in Torch Red with 11k miles with zero issues so far. I only take mine out on the weekends depending on weather. The only thing I've done to it are oil changes which are super easy to do and the DCT filter change in which I must admit, I did it at around 10k miles when it should've been done at 7500 miles as per the manual. But then I've experienced no issues with the trans and actually shifted smoother.
@@skylerallensthanks for response. Tomorrow ill be taking delivery of a 2020 2 7k miles. I will do the dtc filter but concerned trans fluid is goin on 5 years but only has 7k miles. Have u had any issues not changing trans fluid at 3 year mark as per the owner manual?
@maxsergio13 My 2020 C8 2LT Z51 is at 39k miles to this day and the indicator on the dash says the transmission fluid is at 11% life left. Never encountered any issues and my car is driven on my weekends ONLY. Yes, I have to change out the fluid soon which I'll do in my own garage since I have experience with DCTs, but you should be good with yours for a long while depending on how often you plan on driving it.
When it comes down to paying MSRP due to ordering/waitlisting, I did research that haggling is still possible from the MSRP price point. Is this actually true that haggling is still possible once my Vette is to arrive? Awesome and honest video by the way.
Dealers won’t haggle at the moment. They know someone will buy the car if you don’t. They have no incentive to sell it to you for your price because they can charge 10k more to someone who will walk in the door tomorrow and buy it.
@@Wheelr Ahaa! Very good point. Thanks for the reminder! Literally flew by my head and forgot that literally every Vette right now is still $100k+ at the moment, haha!
Is your interior 2LT or 3LT? I’m trying to figure out whether the bubbling and bolster wear you’re experiencing is only on the Mulan leather or also on the 3LT Napa
I am debating between the new mustang and the C8. I do plan on enjoying whichever one I buy. If I pay for it I am going to get my money's worth. I am very interested to see how your c8 stands up in the long run
In case you didn't hear, the President of GM send out an email to all dealerships saying that they aren't allowed to markup the msrp of the c8s. So if your dealership is telling you you'll have to pay them 30K extra you can report them to corporate. Then not only will you not have to pay that extra cash but GM will actually be penalizing the dealerships on top of that.
GM isn't gonna do shit... Why? Cause dealers have to buy the cars from GM. GM is already getting their money and if that dealer has a large influx of fools buying it at mark up price... that dealer is going to keep buying corvettes from GM. Don't let these corporate shills fool you.. GM won't do a thing as long as they are backed up on orders.
Well good luck on that. I called three dealers and they wanted 30k over sticker price after having the car listed for sticker. I told them they can’t do that and they said they can do what they want. I called gm and they said they really can’t do much. Typical car dealer and factor. Liars
Look at Ferrari service issues. By comparison, the C8 is problem free. Ferrari owners give a review at 2k miles. C8 owners give a review at 40 or 50k miles. Ferrari owners rarely drive their cars.
Great video....very truthful and to the point. Well done. Just a hunch....and I know this is a 2 year old video....but my guess is that since your car was actually built in 2019 (pre covid)....it didn't suffer from all the crap that production went through during the pandemic. Those 2021 and 2022's were all in that strange window where parts and manufacturing were being affected. I'd guess the 2023s and 2024s now are probably better. Just guessing.
I have tracked both C8 and C7 Z06. C8 is much more refined, grip and handling substantially better than C7 and much easier car to handle. C7 Z06 is a wild stallion, not everyone can handle it or take advantage of what it can offer. More experienced drivers I've talked to prefered the C8. I prefer the GT350 .
The lack of a manual transmission was an instant deal breaker for me. I was pissed when i first heard that. Thanks. Shit on the purist. Wtf, you can get a brand new cadillac with a stick, but not in a vette? That's just dumb. So glad i got my 2018 ss 1le.
@@bobolulu7615 LMFAO. I couldn't care less about an automatic being a a tenth or two quicker 0-60, 1/4. I didn't buy my car to drive it in a straight line. For me shifting is fun, and driving an automatic is boring af. Oh, and i can assure you, on a road course, the only person laughing would be me. Ask professional race car driver randy pobst, (who sets most of the production car lap records at laguna seca) what he thinks of the SS 1LE with the manual. No offense, but i think I'll take his word before yours. Lap times don't lie. My car is capable of stomping the **** out of some seriously expensive cars from overseas, automatic transmission's and all, for less than a third of the price.
After hearing this the base c8 is a great starting point for the corvette but who wants that when Z06 and ZR1 is far more engaging. All or nothing for me
For some, the C8 is the only attainable vette. With the Z06 or ZR1 variants, you're going to be looking at much larger price points than the 60k the C8 starts at. Not to mention the wait times for the Z06 and ZR1. Orders go in for the Z06 this summer and deliveries likely won't take place til first Q1 of 2023, and that's if you're early on the list. Most deliveries will be throughout 2023 and into 2024. For the ZR1 you're probably looking at 2024-25 minimum by the time customers are actually receiving their cars.
Sorry to burst your bubble, I have 40,000 on my C8. I have driven it to Florida from Maryland 4 times, roughly 886 miles each way.
Excellent. How is it running?
Congratulations
@@bobolulu7615 Like a dream. 1/4 miles it a few months back, pulled 11.3, it now has 55,000 miles.
It’s still hard to believe how bad quality control is within just 2 years, it’s definitely not worth paying over MSRP, I am thinking to pick a used one when it’s really cheap as a supplement to my LC500
@user-py1jw3kp4p you think this is bad? Try tesla lol
As a soon to be owner of a C8, this was one of the best informational videos I've watched. My C8 will be a daily driver.. Why own one if you aren't going to drive it? Thanks!
I appreciate your honesty man. It goes to show even if you spend a good chunk of change you can still come across interior wear and some quality control. Often the picture gets painted that more you spend = it’s always better in every form or fashion. Very surprised to see about how easy the leather wears in this car but once again I appreciate your honesty. I Drive a Stinger GT AWD and even that car at 50k people complain about small things and I’ll be honest the leather and bolster wear in mine isn’t as bad as what you’re dealing with and I’m at 48k miles (still low in the grand scheme of things but still) You have a great personality and I appreciate your honest review, and pointed out some flaws.
Thats the deal with high end materials . They are nicer , better to the touch but wear MUCH faster . RSPECIALLY IF YOU WEAR DENIM , Jeans are rough sliding in and out on soft materials .The Bolsters and seats in my 2019 Hyundai GT N line look perfect ( pretty nice seats) but they are made of less supple material . I prefer the " lesser material " , I dont notice it when Im driving or caress my seats much and would prefer better wearing then soft leather that wears in 20K like i have on my nicer cars . Cheaper seats look a little cheaper new but LOOK BETTER in just couple years and DONT WEAR AT ALL in some cases , so give me stiffer leather or fake leather.
Higher end car interiors of any brand always wear more then less 3expensive cars in general . Just fine leather clothes and shoes scratch and wear faster the less expensive leather . Had baby deer skin Dan Post Boots that fit like socks and beautiful. but scratched if they touched carpet and 25 wears and they are essentially ratty looking , they are not knock around shoes and rich people can afford new clothes like changing underwear.
The bubbling dash is a pure defect and a BAD on GMs part , that is a defect.
But the finer the materials the worse they look with wear. Suede interior stuff gets gross and looks like shit quick as well . price you pay for being swanky and your supposed to get a new car every 2-3 years if your monied, thats why ,money people lease and always have new cars .
@@MrGravloc totally agree.
BIG THANKS. I still have C8 on order. One of my C5 has 224,000 miles. Autocross yes. Lost transmission 196,000 autocrossing. Yes same problem with both C5 seats. Love my C4 for autocrossing. My 1972 I've had for 40 of her 50 years. Agsin honest. Thanks. You are the highest milage I've seen. My best friend has a C7 Z06 Manuel. He will not give it up.
I mean I don’t know how many diff cars you have owned but seat bolsters wear on every make and model some then others but it’s the nature of the beast.
C7 Z06 manual is the best! Love mine!
Yep ED I got 4 Corvettes I race a C5 Z06 cars got over 100K miles. I got a C8 Z06 manual car I will never get rid of it. Got a C2 Coup pro touring car I’ve owned for 40 years. Just bought a C8 HTC Z51 car. You just can’t go wrong with a Corvette for cost for performance. The C8 Z06 will be a game changer.
Ed, on your C5 Corvette with 224 k miles. Do you change your transmission fluid ? ,if so how often, and do you do a partial, or a complete flush.
Yes, transmission fluid every 50k. I understand 30k is preferred after the fact. Transmission failed at 196,000 miles at the end of a autocross lap. This was a Z51, I autocross alot. By the way I still beat my competitors and I drove it home. My transmission guy was also a club member and said drive it home. A C5 a great car. I currently have a C6 GS.
I got a 2023 C8 about 400 miles the transmission went out it took a while to get it back had to wait 25 days to get it back but once I got the car back so far so good no problems 🙏🏾
One of the most gritty and down to earth reviews I have ever seen. Your candidness and perspective was just great. That unpaved road was jarring!
Really useful video for this C6 owner looking to eventually go to a C8. While I have been delighted with the reliability of my car (and it is no garage queen), I think the interior of the C7 is much nicer and the C8 a step above that. The issues with the C8 here seem to be pretty minor if you look at costs of running a true exotic but GM really should have had those struts covered! There have been issues with wheels on wide-body C7s and auto transmissions in them so it is really good to have a video like this pointing out potential problems in the C8. Thanks!
14k miles on mine and zero issues. No signs of wear on the interior either. Granted it's not 20k miles yet but holding up like a champ. Very impressed with the quality of the C8.
the new ones with alcantara seats yes
Chevy pay you?
You did one of the best personal experience of of owning a new c8 I really appreciate that !!
My goodness my man you are so informative great presentation you got right to the point and did a great job the lapel mic is as clear as it can be no mistaking of the words you seem to be enjoying your life to the fullest once again great job keep up the good work
I appreciate the kind words! Comments like these make me want to post more.
Love this high mileage review videos. Truely shows the quality of a car not just some 3 second launch
Lol 20k -= high miles
That happened to my BMW. I have a leather dash and it bubbled up. I got it fixed by my local car shop(they do interior modifications) and after it was fixed I got my windshield tinted with a UV protection. Hasn’t bubbled up since then.
Me: Laughs in 175 mile daily commute in my 2004 Honda CR-V.
Seriously though, thanks for sharing your real world experience. Much appreciated.
Great review! I've watched a lot of different corvette videos and reviews, and most owners don't drive em on the daily. It's nice to see a vette owner drive it more than 2000 miles a year. Enjoy it! I drive my ss1le as much as I can!😂
I have a 2020 C8 and will have had it 2yrs in June and love it! No issues thus far, tho a friend of mine had his in the shop for DCT and after 8wks he got it back with new transmission.
I’ve added LPE exhaust and pTR Lingenfelter intake, UPR catch can and some other things. The car is a dream and I’m shy 6k on the odometer and now that I’m fully retired I plan to get in more seat time.
Great review and the things you mentioned like screens up front I did day one since my Camaro SS with ZL1 front end needed the same protection. I have screens in the side intake vents as well. Pretty much my mindset was this is a car I plan to hold onto, so it’s protected all the way around, inside and out!
I can’t wait to get my C8, I am gonna be driving it everyday, major goals for 2022💯💯💯
Great review. I have 2020 #551 with 20,300 miles. So far. knock wood, I've had no issues. Traded a C7 Z06 which was a monster track car, but I like the C8 for different reasons. I also have a C5 that's my overall favorite of 9 Corvettes I've loved over 40+ years.
Do u knw if trans fluid was already changed since its a 2020
Thanks for posting. Good to hear from someone who does use it as a daily drive.
The dash problem and transmission problem are worrisome. Appreciate the candidness.
I have a 2020 c8 1lt. Luckily I haven't had any issues. Mine was made after they shut the plant down for covid.We took it down to Bowling Green Kentucky to visit the Corvette museum. Awesome road trip! I have only 4,000 miles on it. I call it my touring car, very comfortable!
Do u still have the original trans fluid
The best comparison of C7 and C8 that I have seen. Thanks for the honest viewpoints.
Keep it up brother! Cars are meant to be driven
We bought our 2020 earlier this but w 4500 miles on her, had the large dash pad replaced under warranty(which has expired now) due to leather detaching & have had the DCT serviced @ 7500 miles, the new recommended interval is 7500 mile filter changes which are quite pricy but overall the level of quality in impressive and the car drives like a dream. We have had 4 C6s & 2 C7s, the interior on the C8 is an incredible upgrade.
Just got a 2020 z51 saturday w 7200 miles. Will b doing dct filter at 7500 but do u still have original trans fluid?
I love the C8, continue enjoying it, drive the hell out of it, you only go around once:)
One thing I’ve noticed with Corvettes, I’ve owned 8, is you never buy the first year of any generation or upgrade like a Z06. There’s a learning curve for Corvette’s and GM works the bugs out of the car usually by the second year of the generation. I was also told by my dealer on my C8 to get the brake in tranny fluid out of the transmission after 2000 miles. GM recommends 7000 miles but I had both engine and trans oil changed at 2000 miles.
yet this is a 1st model year and only minor issues
@@automotorsports yep they may have got lucky on the C8.
Are the performance packages less reliable compared to base models?
@@jtbuilds123 I’m a big believer in get the most upgrades you can afford. Resale value is always better and in the future higher upgrades especially performance packages are more collectible and worth more. Base Corvettes are all over the place I get the Z51 package at minimum or the Z06. Custom upgrade reliably depends totally on the company doing the work. I recently had a harness bar, harnesses, fire extinguisher and Nitrous put on my C8 Z51 HTC. The company I used is top notch so no problems.
I too have a 2020, currently with 13000 miles… no issues with engine/transmission as well… I put strut covers on mine too.
Does it have original trans fluid
Preventing interior damage window tint can help
It's a win win, better aesthetics and prevents wear.
I have a 2019 C7 Grand Sport and absolutely love it. I test drove a C8 non-51 2lt and C8 3lt with Z51 and the C8 Z51 felt amazing. Non z51 didn't feel terrible but definitely not as sharp. Aside from obviously being faster it felt just as good as my GS. It's plenty enough fast for me and rides super smooth with the continental DWS extreme contact tires. C7 feels more raw and like an actual Vette, C8 feels more refined but not like a Vette to me. Interior is definitely a step up. Both are definitely great cars and turn heads on the road.
I’ve had a transmission valve body repair at 12k miles, 13k miles a failed transmission on my 2020. There several 2020s like crazy amount of bad transmissions, also 21 and 22s.
Literally just like me. I've daily driven camaro's and a hellcat. I have a c8 on order and that'll be my next daily. They are meant to be driven!!
I agree!
it would be a waste not to
I just sold my 2021 C8 with 12,800 miles like you I enjoyed it very much. but living in the north east can't drive it in 4 to 5 months of the year snow.
Dude this was so real and without fluff thank you
What color was it before it was wrapped?
This is why I always wait until the Grand Sport or ZR1 come out because the issues are usually ironed out by then.
Just picked up a 22 CPO last weekend. Day one of ownership get a CEL and it's in the shop getting a new trans.
Was the fluid flush done at the first 7500 mile mark?
This is a great video, mann. A lot of info that a buyer would need to consider before deciding to buy this car. Thanks.
Wow, just came across this. One of the best reviews of the C8 and how it compares against the prior gens and how it holds up. Thank you. I really wish they kept the manual, just not the same thing to drive an auto, even a fast one like this bad boy.
Is it easy to get the tail to slide in a controlled way and how is the steering rack quickness and road feel from the steering?
I appreciate it! Feel and quickness is pretty great with the steering. As far as a controlled slide goes, I haven't tried it so I couldn't accurately explain.
It is not easy to get in a controlled slide. Generally you do not want to do that in a mid-engined vehicle due the weight distribution. With less grip on the front tires, and more on the rear it can bite much more violently, doubly so if you experience understeer from it.
@@weasle2904 thanks. That's unfortunate as controlled slides are some of the best parts of RWD, esp at right turns out of stop lights.
@@sunnyvalentino dude , i agree w weasle, but if you can drive - it's like the honda 3 wheeler, you have to hop it into the slide and scream out. bust them tires slightly loose - that's the hard part , they are wide & sticky.....damn , riding on the edge is so much fun , it's worse than crak and probably more expensive , w/ the blu lite specials, and the price of tires. safe travels....
Great video..I appreciate the honesty. Ive owned Ferrari and Lambo as well, and for those that think this isn't a super..it is. And the amazing part is, you will have a GM warranty..where on the expensive brands..Talk to anyone u know.they have major issues as well especially Ferrari, the Huracan is an exception. That's huge because you get amazing reliability, I just ordered a convertible.
Hopefully they start to address some of these QC issues in the upcoming model years. Seems like the leak over the struts could be easily fixed since there are aftermarket parts that do this already. Buying a first year GM model is always a gamble. Especially for a car that is fundamentally all new like the C8. Hopefully the transmission reliability is as impressive as how well it performs.
Do you think a transparent ceramic window tint on the windshield would have reduced the bubbling on the dash?
Theoretically yes but I also use sunshade if my car is out of garage. I don’t care if cloudy or a 5 minute stop. PTSD of 70’s & 80’s dash rot.
Yeah my father got one and he has owned it for a couple years and it only has 500 or so miles on it and I put half of that on it myself just trying it out and taking it to a couple places for special events (like my Nephew's birthday to bring him for a ride in it). Awesome car, love driving it but it would be tough as a daily driver. I would be scared of rough roads, parking anywhere, other drivers, etc... basically scared of hurting his baby (he worked all his life and this was his dream car that he saved up and paid for all in cash in one go). I really wish it got more use though, 500 miles isn't even close to broken in.
Luckily he got the front lift as we live in Maine, a MUST HAVE up here.Bolsters is from getting in and out. I bet you have a lot of scratches on the foot-well part too (I really wish they hadn't done a massive painted area there with only a small metal bit as a foot pad which really isn't even for that).
Thanks for the great vid, my 2020 HTC has only 9000 miles and I use it like you do, no garage queen. Mine was one of the last 2020s built in September of 2020, I am not seeing any of the wear, or dash bubbling. My seats are red and I expect some fading ( badly on my BMW) but not yet. I have had absolutely no issues or hiccups. ( This is my first Corvette or American car)
Do u still have original trans fluid
@@maxsergio13 No, I replaced it at the suggested interval. Update, I have 18000 miles now. not one issue, hiccup or problem. I have a new baby now, so, the C8 goes to Costco and grocery stores mostly..
Ahh nice.... so my 2020 has 7,300 miles ill b doing dct filter at 7500 miles but my trans oil life is 65 percent. Its also a 2020 z51 but i dnt thinks trans fluid has ever been changed but shifts perfectly fine. Ill prob jst wait until fluid life hits 10 percent to change it @@fortijr
@@maxsergio13 The DCT is VERY expensive to repair and or replace, I would highly suggest to be more cautious and change it either by millage or age, whichever is earlier. It may cost you a couple of thousand more over 10 years, but it’s probably a fraction of the repair cost. Just my suggestion.
Thanks makes sense just that the 65 percent oil trans life it says i mean monitors the trans fluid so im assuming theres still oife since its at 65 percent. @@fortijr
This is my realistic dream car. Hoping the fix these issue with their facelift model.
Good job! I drive the hell out of my car! Got a 16 ATSV and same, dropped 25k miles on my car. A few trips back n forth to Whidbey Island from Silicon Valley
1lt-2lt dash boards on C7 and C8s usually don't bubble up or warp/shrink (because its synthetic) The real stuff is nice but nobody including Ferrari has figured out how to make the real leather last. Another big problem that applies to any car from any manufacturer when it comes to interior wear is body sweat and the natural oils from one's body building up on surfaces over time. Combine that with the heat from direct and indirect sunlight and you will accelerate the wear process. Best solutions is investing in great microfiber towels, interior detail solutions and 20-30 minutes of free time every so often (depending on how often you use the car) I have a c7 with 35k miles and leather, plastic and finishes are holding up very well.
My 2016 Stingray was a 2LT, and the center console bubbled just as bad. Not sure the exact materials, but it seems regardless of 1, 2, or 3LT, the "leather" has lamination issues.
Wow a real ‘owner/user’ review. Thanks.
Would a ceramic front windshield tint fix the bubbling dash?
Made up my mind now after watching this , I'm staying with my 2009 Toyota RAV4 , that's right oh what a feeling.
Awesome video as always Christian!
Does the new see eights have cylinder deactivation system? If so is there anyway you can have the dealership deactivate that system?
I was really dreaming of getting a C8 and the issues addressed and what I've read online is killing that dream.
I've always been a Mopar guy and this would be my 1st corvette and maybe by the time I can afford a C8 the issues will be worked out
What issues I’ve got a 2021 C8 HTC Z51 with no issues.
@@craigthescott5074 mainly the transmission going out
@@Deadman_Elit3 I haven’t heard anybody with that problem yet but I have heard you need to frequently change the tranny fluid just like the oil.
I would giggle all the time w/ all the onlookers and attn. it gets.
Thank you for the video. I had the C7, within three months I owned it, I had to take it back to the dealer for electronic issues where it spent over a month before it was fixed.
Now, I am very interested in the C8-Z06, but still wonder if I should give GM another chance.
I feel your pain. I had a C5 Z06 that let me down multiple times due to mechanical failures,… and then to see the C7 Z go into limp mode on track due to cooling issues, I am super weary of the next Vette product. I am actually eyeing a new Lotus Emira pretty heavily…power is enough, looks way better, and true 3 pedals…
P.S. the Z was a phenomenal driver though, and surprisingly practical for daily driving…just, over all spent the most of any car I’ve owned on breakage. Dropped a valve at 50 k miles, rear diff gone at 70k, and a ton of little stuff, a ton…
My man with the Destiny tatts!!!! Hell yeah
I forgot the ZR1 was so expensive! Insane and current prices are even crazier
Crazy Corvette Driver Man....LOL.
One of the most fun cars on the planet for the dollar.
GM and interiors...money drives that, which can be frustrating. The visual on their stuff, new, is great.
After some heat cycles...well, like all OEM's today...things decay interior wise.
How long are wraps good for? 2 years and already coming up?
without the lift package do you have issues getting into parking lots and going over speed bumps. I have ordered a C8 Z51 without lift and was wondering if I should have it added to my order. Mine will be a daily driver also.
Big dog blessing us with knowledge
outstanding review, thanks for sharing your knowledge/experience.
Still absolutely in love with these in rapid blue.
Christian my man.. you popped up on my feed.. how strange.. but anyway... great video! My new channel is only two months old. Keep going!
You’ll be happy to know your warranty is good up to 3 yrs 36k..
Powertrain even more, 5yrs 60k
which seats do you have? we are getting the gt2 seats two tone.
These are the GT2 seats!
Do you prefer the coupe or convertible?
i have a 2020 C8 , #2465, w/ almost 24K and i can't stop driving it. i'd rather walk away from a blu eyed blond than lose my C8 :-) i just checked my dash and did not see any issues but now that i'm aware , i'll be watching. i like the C8 enuf that i ordered another one on 2/11/22. i hope the next one is as good as 2465 has been.....
Great info and Yes Ciocca in Atlantic City NJ used to be called Kerbecks I put my deposit down in Sept 9 mo's ago there . I have a C5 had a trans rebuild but at 110k miles, scares me that there are all these trans issues . Let me ask you this can the wifi and on star be disabled from the infotainment screen? I get headaches when siting close to wifi and other wireless so rather turn that off , I was able to turn it off in a loaner 2020 Camaro when my C5 was in the shop . Can you turn it off in the C8? If not I may go with the 1LT since I believe it has less wireless junk then the 2LT
Thanks for any in put or info
Hey very informative. Would you recommend the 3Lt interior over the 2LT for wear and tear?
Thanks
I would love to give a recommendation, however, I don't have a large amount of driving experience in the 2LT to be able to tell you if there is a large difference in interior quality. As far as I'm aware, the materials are the exact same. Just the placement of certain leather pieces, I.E the dash, are different between 2LT and 3LT. I believe the wear problem would be similar with either tier.
@@Wheelr great informative video ! 👍
I have a 2020 Corvette C8 in Torch Red with 11k miles with zero issues so far. I only take mine out on the weekends depending on weather. The only thing I've done to it are oil changes which are super easy to do and the DCT filter change in which I must admit, I did it at around 10k miles when it should've been done at 7500 miles as per the manual. But then I've experienced no issues with the trans and actually shifted smoother.
Do u still have original trans fluid
@@maxsergio13 Yes.
@@skylerallensthanks for response. Tomorrow ill be taking delivery of a 2020 2 7k miles. I will do the dtc filter but concerned trans fluid is goin on 5 years but only has 7k miles. Have u had any issues not changing trans fluid at 3 year mark as per the owner manual?
@maxsergio13 My 2020 C8 2LT Z51 is at 39k miles to this day and the indicator on the dash says the transmission fluid is at 11% life left. Never encountered any issues and my car is driven on my weekends ONLY. Yes, I have to change out the fluid soon which I'll do in my own garage since I have experience with DCTs, but you should be good with yours for a long while depending on how often you plan on driving it.
@maxsergio13 You just need to look at the life percentage on the dash under the "maintenance" page on the screen.
Is this a 1,2 or 3 LT interior?
its only a 1 or 2
Are mirrors oem or why do they look a bit different?
How did the tires wear? have you had a wheel alignment done for street specs?
When it comes down to paying MSRP due to ordering/waitlisting, I did research that haggling is still possible from the MSRP price point. Is this actually true that haggling is still possible once my Vette is to arrive? Awesome and honest video by the way.
Dealers won’t haggle at the moment. They know someone will buy the car if you don’t. They have no incentive to sell it to you for your price because they can charge 10k more to someone who will walk in the door tomorrow and buy it.
@@Wheelr Ahaa! Very good point. Thanks for the reminder! Literally flew by my head and forgot that literally every Vette right now is still $100k+ at the moment, haha!
Is your interior 2LT or 3LT? I’m trying to figure out whether the bubbling and bolster wear you’re experiencing is only on the Mulan leather or also on the 3LT Napa
what's your opinion or a 2019 Z06 or a 2020 C8 both are 1LT
I am debating between the new mustang and the C8. I do plan on enjoying whichever one I buy. If I pay for it I am going to get my money's worth. I am very interested to see how your c8 stands up in the long run
Oh man I can’t wait to get mine 😭 my dream car! I want to see what the zora’s is going to be though before I make a decision
2500 miles on my 2023 c8 and needed a new transmission. And then the dealership scratched my bumper. I’m depressed.
😮 wow
Again, awesome video bromigo!
In case you didn't hear, the President of GM send out an email to all dealerships saying that they aren't allowed to markup the msrp of the c8s. So if your dealership is telling you you'll have to pay them 30K extra you can report them to corporate. Then not only will you not have to pay that extra cash but GM will actually be penalizing the dealerships on top of that.
GM isn't gonna do shit... Why? Cause dealers have to buy the cars from GM. GM is already getting their money and if that dealer has a large influx of fools buying it at mark up price... that dealer is going to keep buying corvettes from GM. Don't let these corporate shills fool you.. GM won't do a thing as long as they are backed up on orders.
Well good luck on that. I called three dealers and they wanted 30k over sticker price after having the car listed for sticker. I told them they can’t do that and they said they can do what they want. I called gm and they said they really can’t do much. Typical car dealer and factor. Liars
Are still on the original set of tires?
Very nice down to earth guy and video! Great job!
The dash bubbling is classic GM. My old C6 used to impress people until they sat inside.
This was very informative,very well done,thank you sir!!!
Good presentation, please their is a standard procedure to enter the seat in a corvette avoiding the excessive seat wear.
I'm aware. However, that wouldn't explain the wear on the right side of the driver's seat, which is wearing just as bad.
Do you take your roof off the coupe much? Easy? Do you get much wind buffeting? Thank you good video :-)
Look at Ferrari service issues. By comparison, the C8 is problem free. Ferrari owners give a review at 2k miles. C8 owners give a review at 40 or 50k miles. Ferrari owners rarely drive their cars.
Lexus Lc500 owners are laughing at us right now
That camerawork is brutal
Is your car interior 1LT,2LT, or 3LT?
very informative video! Love interior color details! Which wing is that is it Victor racing active one?
That’s the stock High wing from factory. Came with the aero package!
Great video....very truthful and to the point. Well done. Just a hunch....and I know this is a 2 year old video....but my guess is that since your car was actually built in 2019 (pre covid)....it didn't suffer from all the crap that production went through during the pandemic. Those 2021 and 2022's were all in that strange window where parts and manufacturing were being affected. I'd guess the 2023s and 2024s now are probably better. Just guessing.
I have tracked both C8 and C7 Z06. C8 is much more refined, grip and handling substantially better than C7 and much easier car to handle. C7 Z06 is a wild stallion, not everyone can handle it or take advantage of what it can offer. More experienced drivers I've talked to prefered the C8. I prefer the GT350 .
Man, GM has never been able to do a stitched dash without it delaminating
Ain't that the truth!
Side note, Is that Eris Morn on his arm??
Yes it is!
Great video, my 2021 C8 gets delivered on Friday, what was the ebay seller's name that made those strut covers?
Test drive them at Carmax....I've test drove a C8 and Plaid at Carmax in Albuquerque
The lack of a manual transmission was an instant deal breaker for me. I was pissed when i first heard that. Thanks. Shit on the purist. Wtf, you can get a brand new cadillac with a stick, but not in a vette? That's just dumb. So glad i got my 2018 ss 1le.
It would be a slower car with a manual shift, then you'd be the laughing stock of the pub or track with your slow Corvette.
@@bobolulu7615 LMFAO. I couldn't care less about an automatic being a a tenth or two quicker 0-60, 1/4. I didn't buy my car to drive it in a straight line. For me shifting is fun, and driving an automatic is boring af. Oh, and i can assure you, on a road course, the only person laughing would be me. Ask professional race car driver randy pobst, (who sets most of the production car lap records at laguna seca) what he thinks of the SS 1LE with the manual. No offense, but i think I'll take his word before yours. Lap times don't lie. My car is capable of stomping the **** out of some seriously expensive cars from overseas, automatic transmission's and all, for less than a third of the price.
drove one at Las Vegas motor speedway great car
Wheeler, new subscriber here! Good, honest assessment! Thank you! The Z06 is killer though!👊🏻👌🏻
anyone had any issue with front trunk clear coat ? I had a corner get clear coat burn from washing the car
After hearing this the base c8 is a great starting point for the corvette but who wants that when Z06 and ZR1 is far more engaging. All or nothing for me
I guess...if you are willing to wait two more years at least
For some, the C8 is the only attainable vette. With the Z06 or ZR1 variants, you're going to be looking at much larger price points than the 60k the C8 starts at. Not to mention the wait times for the Z06 and ZR1. Orders go in for the Z06 this summer and deliveries likely won't take place til first Q1 of 2023, and that's if you're early on the list. Most deliveries will be throughout 2023 and into 2024. For the ZR1 you're probably looking at 2024-25 minimum by the time customers are actually receiving their cars.