@@IndellableHatesHandles Well you obvisously won't do heavy tasks with them. Never got to use the desktop ones but i got a few new Athlon powered laptops for people that only wanted something to do their work on and use it for youtube and they are actually running really well for what they are. They ran better than my old i5 5200U powered laptop and cooler too. They would probably make a good PC for retro gaming
I used this CPU in my main PC until the end of 2016. I then gave it to my mom and she was able to use it until last month when the board died. It might've been the 3200+ manilla on the AM2 platform, but it's almost the same one, maybe a few % faster. It was already outdated and just bad when I got it in 2012-13 or there abouts, but for a CPU to be able to withstand at least 15 years of constant heavy work and could still do it further, made me quite impressed.
Dude... A Sempron was part the very fist PC I bought with my own money. But for me it was a Sempron 2600, I remember it being 64 bits. I had a GeForce 5600 Ultra with 256MB of VRAM, and 1GB of memory RAM. The machine was a beast! I remember playing NFSU with all maxed out, and Most Wanted too (minus AA) but that one didn't ran with stable FPS. When I came to Switzerland from Chile, I brought everything with me, but the case got lost on transit. When it finally arrived, it wouldn't boot up anymore. So I got my self the very same motherboard from Italy. I still have that setup, and it's still running like a champ. As always, great video! It brought me some nostalgic memories!
remember it, thankfully to my parents, my first built when I was 14 on Christmas 2007 was with AMD Athlon X2 BE2300, back then Semprons were still a thing and mostly used in kids first PC
I've used Sempron 2200+ pushed from 1500 to 1800 Mhz on Socket A with FX5200 from 2005 to 2010 as a student with no money for a better pc. Let me say that i played a few thousand hours of WoW Vanilla/TBC/WotLK on it and while it wasn't always smooth, little OCd guy did what it could
@@philscomputerlab It is a paradox. Back in the K8 era everyone kinda hated VIA chipsets because of their poor overclock, sata compatibility issues, and everything else. Everyone was pushing Nforce. But now, as a retro machine, the cards have turned. Yes VIA still cannot overclock well, it usually tops around 230-240 FSB while decent Nforce boards go over 300, but various CPUs are available for dirt cheap, and VIA gives you the working 16-bit sound in win98/DOS environment, which refuses to work on Nforce chipsets, or at least I could not get it to work. So now VIA motherboards are more viable.
Happy Friday Phil! Thank you for demonstrating what this CPU is capable of. It is always amazing how you bring components to the table that most people would ignore. Love it and keep ‘em coming 👍
My Retro build has the AMD Duron 900mhz CPU, ABIT MOBO, 640mb of Ram, Voodoo 5500, and Sound Blaster Live (making sure to get the proper SB0100 because of Phil's recommendation LOL). Thanks to Phil's website, all the Via chipset drivers, 3DFX, Sound Blaster, and all the documentation, tips & tricks are all in one place. Thank you Phil for all that you do! 😀👍
Thanks for the video! I had a Sempron 2800+ back in the day, on a very basic MSI motherboard. I upgraded an old PIII-based Fujitsu Scaleo, in order to play WoW, 2006. It worked like a charm, paired with a GeForce 6200. Still got it somewhere in my lab.
Thx for the video :) Back in days I bought DFI nF3 Lanparty socket 754 motherboard and Sempron 2600+. And it was super easy to overclock so just changed the bus from 200->300 and then it went 1600mhz->2400mhz.
I use the Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754 cpu for my Windows 98 retro gaming pc, and I do have to agree, the platform fits Win98 surprisingly well with excellent performance and stability. It might sound stupid, but the system somehow feels like an Athlon from the Thunderbird days, but turned up to 11.
Hell yes I remember the AMD Sempron 3100+, it was my first self-bought computer where I bought and built my own pc, lasted me a long time, several years before it finally died on me after a lightning strike in 2009.
Really a fascinating system! I never would have thought a Sempron would be that versatile. The X800 Pro/FireGL card though, that thing is great. Owned one myself back in the day and it was a real joy to use.
Yes, I remember it, I had (and still have) a later, 64 bits Palermo core 2800+. I was given a semi-broken Socket 754 board and that CPU was dirt cheap, I loved it. It was later replaced with an also gifted A64 2800+ Clawhammer with 2 missing pins 😅.
wow...its awhile since ive visited your channel. I applaud the fact that you came out in front of the camera...that is a refreshing scene, im glad you made that move Phil.
My first win98 retro pc was on 754 platform. Actually my Win98 PC is on 370's Pentium III O.C 900 mhz, Voodoo 3 3000 AGP and AWE64 CT4500. On this 754 platform with Athlon64 3400+, Radeon 9600 Pro and Live! i installed Win 2000. For Win XP i have Core 2 Extreme QX6700 O.C 3.2 GHz, GTX 280 and X-Fi Titanium. I want to see this video about Fire GL.
Socket 754 should have never existed. Imagine having Dual Channel RAM on Socket 462, then taking it away for it's successor. I absolutely hated my 754 system. Sold it as soon as I could. Props for using SDI though. That makes me immediately know you're not an idiot, lol. Nobody knows about SDI.
I had an XP computer with a Sempron and mechanical hard drive. it was painfully slow especially in loading games. Still have fond memories of it though.
I cannot remember the brand nor model, but I used to assemble and sell tons of very affordable PCs built around a Sempron soldered onto the board. They took about 5 minutes to slap together. It was fast enough for most people and worked just fine with the stock fan and PSU that came with the case. I thought it was funny how the Sempron was often faster than the mid-range Pentiums that cost 4-5x more.
I remember back in 06 getting an ACER 14in laptop with a dual core AMD Sempron along with it being the last they made with an IDE HDD, and it handled XP really well till the RUclips era started to come along for me in 08, and I started to also get back into Linux, and having all kinds of issues, man how far we have come!!
Had a Sempron 3000+ Palermo, DH-E6 revision, 128mb ddr ram using the onboard via graphics. The set-up was given to me cause my Pentium III 733mhz set-up basically broke. It wasn't long till I decided the set-up definitely needs and upgrade so i bought a gig of ram and an nvidia geforce 7600GST gpu. Had fun with it for around 2 years till I moved on to my first dual core set-up. Would've stick to it much longer if my gpu wasn't acting up. For some reason the gpu I had can't play nice with the board I got which I remember was an Asus K8 VVM or something based on the via chipset. Games sometimes freeze at random. I know it's the tandem and not the card cause when I finally build my first dual core, I used the card for a while and it ran like a champ. But despite the issues I had fun with the sempron set-up. Finished some decent amount of games on that rig. I was suppose to get a Celeron D 3ghz+ cpu as the seller desperately tries to sell it to be but lucky me, my brother bought a sempron instead which back then is almost unheard of in my part of the world, AMD in general. Got pretty excited when I found out the little guy can go head to head against a Pentium 4 2.8ghz northwood easy. Good old times. So everytime a video comes out with sempron in it. I pay my respects. Cheers!
Thanks for the Video Phil. I`m very happy with the 754 system I posted on your retro page. The Motherboard came with an Athlon 64. But I also have a few Sempron CPU`s and they are Excellent for the Price. That Video card you have looks Interesting. I may have to upgrade the 9800 Pro .
Also: 1:08 - Oopsie Daisy, Although it's probably better to lose a Thermal Pad instead... A Piece? I guess? of Thermal Paste, because that could be very... BAD... xD
I had one of those clocked to 2.65Ghz back in the day. Zalman flower cooler and an ULTRA 500 watt modular PSU and a 9600 XT. Wonderful gaming system for back in the day. Served me well for a long time.
Completely agree on 754. You can build a powerful AGP system with an On Die Memory controller for great gaming. Before I even loaded the chipset drivers in 98 I knew it was fast.
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Sempron 2600+ was my daily driver throughout most of the uni. There was not much time to play games back then, but from time to time I played worms armageddon with roommates, and black&white, port royale, and dark reign 2. Later in that pc's life, I had it slightly overclocked. And soon after I gave that PC away to a neighbor when my ATI GPU died, embedded on the motherboard was useless since I switched to Linux and it did not work that well. I then just switched to a core duo laptop. And used only laptops until ryzen7 1700 came out years later.
LOL I have at least that many Old CPUs laying around as well. Also have about 20 Video Cards ranging from PCI to AGP laying around. If it wasn't so pricey I'd send some to you. Anyway thanks for the video
What a coincidence I had just found an old winfast socket 754 motherboard with a sempron CPU in it amongst my pile of old tech hardware whilst clearing out the attic and was thinking I should make a win xp or 98 build with this! Great video as usual Phil!
Excellent video. The cheap socket 754 Sempron 3100+ was also great for overclocking. Its performance was similar to that of the expensive socket A Barton 3200+.
Well damn. I have that exact processor. It is a Win 98 beast, and exactly what I use it for. My 754 board is AGP; NForce 3 board from Asus. I'm running Voodoo 2's in SLI and a Geforce 4MX 440 64MB.
Fond memories with a Palermo Sempron 2800+ system with an ATi HD3470. It was a massive upgrade from the K6-2 PC I was stuck with until 2012. It then got retired in 2017 in favor of an Athlon X4 machine.
Wow, I thought you were in your mid twenties from your voice alone, because I've never seen you until now. I hope you view that as a compliment. Aside from that I had a Sempron die on me in that vintage. An Athlon64 3300+ took its place. My only 754 board has a Pcie video slot with onboard Nvidia 6100. It's bios coded as an Emachine and probably one of the last FIC boards ever made. I never thought of trying 98 on it, because it had XP when new.
I had a Amd Sempron 3800 + and socket 754 board with 1.5 GB DDR 400 ram and ATI Radeon 9250 128 mb not a bad little pc worked well for what it is great for old retro gaming.
G'day Phil, I love these XP projects & the really old games you test with, they are very helping to get newer parts performing without compatibility problems, My oldest AMD is an Athlon X4 (AM3) & it is a spare for just incase my FX6300 in my W7 PC Dies, it originally had a GTX260 but now has a R9 270X Toxic & is special as it is my first "real" gaming PC I built to play ETS2 at 900p.
Socket 462 is the last generation from AMD that I used on a daily basis. I've never had Socket 754. Now I have several laptops with AMD Sempron mobile processors and I must admit that today they are interesting machines, although quite power-hungry.
I just finished building my first fully compatible Windows 98 PC using a Sempron 3000+, 512mb RAM, Nvidia FX5500 (128mb) x8 AGP SATA to IDE adaptor and performance is great and no yellow question marks in device mangler - its all I need. Some DOS games would trigger epilepsy, so thanks for the tips on how to slow things down.
I got Sempron 2500+ s754 back in the day, despite its paltry 1.4GHz clockspeed it beats my previous Pentium 4 2Ghz Northwood clocked at 3GHz in PCMark04. Also it can easily overclock to 2.5GHz on stock cooler and slightly higher voltage than stock
Nice video! My parents had an old laptop with mobile Sempron 3200+ and nvidia chipset in it. It has support for amd64, albeit extremely buggy. Windows XP x64 and Windows 7 64 bit just constantly blue screened, and Debian amd64 kernel panicked while it was booting from the installation disc. I've never thought of loading an older OS on it -- which I think I probably should try after watching this video (although I believe the driver for the chipset only goes up to win2k).
Good that 754 processors have a metal shield. Previous generation socket 462 processors were very easy to crush. I crushed my Duron 850 when I was trying to replace cooling and thermal paste.
Thanks for the video. There is always more to learn about retro stuff. I recently picked up a new in box Socket 478 motherboard and the thing that surprised me was that it had PCIe and SATA2 and was made in 2007. I always thought 478 was just for AGP and IDE. By 2007 Socket 775 had been out for awhile so I wonder why they made it.
I'm quite impressed by the results on Far Cry1, they are more than correct. I played it with a dual XP1800 modded as MP and a 6800, but don't remember the numbers. 45 fps were quite correct in those years.
The Sempron 2800+ was the CPU I used in the first PC I ever fully built and didn't just upgrade. I can't really remember much about the build except it used an ECS motherboard with a purple PCB lol I think I put a 9600XT in it? It's been awhile. I really liked that 754 platform...it was really cheap to get into something decently fast. I remember having fun overclocking that Sempron. I built this when I was around...I don't know...17? I had previously only bought OEM PC and upgraded them. I've since built hundreds, maybe thousands of PC.
Socket 754 is definitely a good platform for a first retro build - flexible, usually stable (check those motherboard caps when buying), compatible with modern PSUs and coolers, and typically cheap. I have a Sempron 3400+ build that is just right for mid-era XP stuff like UT2004.
In 2005 I had a rare sempron 3000+ for socket 939. I expected to change it in the future to Athlon X2, but these processors were too expensive at first, and then quickly disappeared from stores.
Semprons and Durons where the bread and butter of my cheap computing of the time. Used them in XP Media Center and worked fine with FX 5200 I believe 😄
Sempron 3100+ is a great cpu from overclocking on the Nvidia NForce 3/4 platform, it would be interesting to do Overcloking and compare it with other processor models
I remember Semprons having x86-64 instruction set, so I was a bit confused when you said they were 32-bit. Apparently, AMD started producing Semprons with x86-64 support starting in second half of 2005., with Palermo core on E6 stepping, and all them up to that point were indeed 32-bit only, including your Paris core.
Definitely interested in the other socket 754 CPUs and the FireGL as there isn't much content about non-Radeon ATI cards. Only had AMD CPUs in my desktops since childhood: Duron 700(skt. A) > Athlon 64 3500+(skt. 939) > Phenom II X4 840(skt. AM3) > Ryzen 1600AF(skt. AM4). The Phenom-based system still works great today and I'm considering getting a 939 board one day to put the Athlon to work again.
I swear by the Phenom IIs, really amazing chips, just a shame about the lack of SSE4.1... My mother has a PC with a X4 955 going strong today as a Office and Video Playback machine. In fact, it was a handmedown, because I used it previously for some light gaming (GRID, Overwatch 1 and 2, Team Fortress 2), and it performed.
@@juanignacioaschura9437 Big fan of GRID, it's probably among the top 5 best games I've ever played. In 2020 when I got the 1600AF, my plan was to keep running the Phenom II, but my PCI-E 1.0 motherboard refused to work with the Radeon RX 570 8GB I bought that year, so I was forced to upgrade and got lucky with the $90 1600AF. I know the X4 would have bottlenecked the RX 570 8GB in some games, but I'm a 30-60fps gamer so I would've been ok with a few stutters here and there. From what I've seen in videos including Phil's video about the Athlon II X4 640, I'd have been fine with the Phenom II X4 in the games I play. The K10 4 and 6 core CPUs have definitely aged really well.
I have one mounted on a motherboard waiting for a project. Got to say, @PhilsComputerLab I hadn’t considered a Win98 project? A 98/XP hybrid PC with say a Geforce 4 Ti perhaps? Great video as ever, thanks.
It's amazing that my Thoroughbred Sempron was released at around the same time. Funnily enough I've noticed that in a fair few games and even benchmarks it bottlenecks my FX 5700 - and Paris based Sempron are significantly faster clock for clock. When it comes to late Socket A, Sempron seem to be the sweet spot these days with how much people ask for slower Athlon XP.
This is the CPU I really want new back in the day as it's like the bridge between old and new age. But in the end I can't get. The computer shop which I went to ask when this thing came out had been shut down in the later year and soon that entire mall which that shop used to place also get renovated to become a mall that sell cheap clothes in place of computer center. And even then I still didn't get my first PC due to my old townhouse doesn't have enough space to place a PC and my parents always complain "Why you need a PC when we already 2-3 laptops at home?". This thing is like, the first thing after I learned about PC that come with a new platform and cheap enough for me to be interested at the time. It also looks like Pentium 4 but not a Pentium 4 and come from AMD. So this is really the first computer part I want my father to buy for me but he didn't bought however he keep buying a laptop for me whenever his acquaintances sell is cheaply to him which I never really want. When I have a chance to build a PC in 2010 (and I get that chance just because I played Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 on those laptops and it broke the laptop VGA card which is only the Intel GMA onboard graphic, the local computer service already repaired it 2 time and then broke again after I play game, the service shop then suggest that the repair is not worth it and suggest that I should buy a PC so my father finally bought a PC for me just because of the shop's suggestion), this thing is already far too obsolete and I didn't see anyone sell it anymore. I never get this model of processor but I will always remember this processor as it remind me of the time when I want to build a PC and have read enough material to be able to build one right away but didn't get a chance for too long time.
I remember having a 2800+ with Venice-256 core. Overclocked to 2.4GHz (50% OC) with the all-aluminium stock cooler and would've went even higher, but the board's (Asus K8N) max bus was only 300.
I had a Sempron in Socket A and Sempron 64 in 754, back when I was a poor teenager, great budget choice. I was heartbroken when I spent a lot of time compiling the Linux kernel to get the new KVM features only to discover that Sempron 64 lacked those instructions... Fast virtualization would have been nice...
Athlon, Sempron, Duron, Turion, Opteron... ahh memories of simpler times
Nowadays we have Ryzen or Core for everything. Much more simple, but definitely less personality present today.
The Athlon still exists today for low end desktops and laptops
@@Mirra2003-f9s Indeed
@@Mirra2003-f9s Yeah, but it's basically just for grandmas and proles. Any serious builder is looking for Ryzen
@@IndellableHatesHandles Well you obvisously won't do heavy tasks with them. Never got to use the desktop ones but i got a few new Athlon powered laptops for people that only wanted something to do their work on and use it for youtube and they are actually running really well for what they are. They ran better than my old i5 5200U powered laptop and cooler too. They would probably make a good PC for retro gaming
Wow. First time I actually see Phil. Was I the only one expecting to see a teenager due to his soft and soothing voice?
Its so good to see you Phil!
I have a Windows ME machine with Sempron 2200+ / 512 MB RAM / FX 5200, the performance is very good. Congratulations for The video, Phil!
I used this CPU in my main PC until the end of 2016. I then gave it to my mom and she was able to use it until last month when the board died. It might've been the 3200+ manilla on the AM2 platform, but it's almost the same one, maybe a few % faster. It was already outdated and just bad when I got it in 2012-13 or there abouts, but for a CPU to be able to withstand at least 15 years of constant heavy work and could still do it further, made me quite impressed.
I have an amd pc from early 2011 running bootleg XP. Stopped booting around 2015-16. Not sure if it's sempron. Looking to upgrade to a used ryzen 3
Damn.
a new motherboard and it might just last another 15 years
We used to sell these Semprons in our store pre-built "office" PCs. Cheap and effective, let me tell you! Thanks for the flashback memories, Phil!
Dude... A Sempron was part the very fist PC I bought with my own money. But for me it was a Sempron 2600, I remember it being 64 bits. I had a GeForce 5600 Ultra with 256MB of VRAM, and 1GB of memory RAM. The machine was a beast! I remember playing NFSU with all maxed out, and Most Wanted too (minus AA) but that one didn't ran with stable FPS.
When I came to Switzerland from Chile, I brought everything with me, but the case got lost on transit. When it finally arrived, it wouldn't boot up anymore. So I got my self the very same motherboard from Italy. I still have that setup, and it's still running like a champ.
As always, great video! It brought me some nostalgic memories!
remember it, thankfully to my parents, my first built when I was 14 on Christmas 2007 was with AMD Athlon X2 BE2300, back then Semprons were still a thing and mostly used in kids first PC
I'd like to see more 754 content. It's a socket I don't own and have interest in. I'd like to learn more before buying into it
I remember that in the sempron 145 you can unlock a second core on a bios option
Epic amd engineering there
I've used Sempron 2200+ pushed from 1500 to 1800 Mhz on Socket A with FX5200 from 2005 to 2010 as a student with no money for a better pc. Let me say that i played a few thousand hours of WoW Vanilla/TBC/WotLK on it and while it wasn't always smooth, little OCd guy did what it could
I had Sempron64 3300+ Socket754 :) It was very cool cpu :) with Radeon 9600XT and 768mb Ram :)
I still have an AMD Sempron 2400+ on a socket A on my childhood computer that I use for games I enjoyed as a kid on Windows XP.
Thank you for using my processor!
This system is really killing it in Win 98! Very awesome
Yea and that's not even the fastest chip 🙂
@@philscomputerlab It is a paradox. Back in the K8 era everyone kinda hated VIA chipsets because of their poor overclock, sata compatibility issues, and everything else. Everyone was pushing Nforce. But now, as a retro machine, the cards have turned. Yes VIA still cannot overclock well, it usually tops around 230-240 FSB while decent Nforce boards go over 300, but various CPUs are available for dirt cheap, and VIA gives you the working 16-bit sound in win98/DOS environment, which refuses to work on Nforce chipsets, or at least I could not get it to work. So now VIA motherboards are more viable.
Happy Friday Phil! Thank you for demonstrating what this CPU is capable of. It is always amazing how you bring components to the table that most people would ignore. Love it and keep ‘em coming 👍
My Retro build has the AMD Duron 900mhz CPU, ABIT MOBO, 640mb of Ram, Voodoo 5500, and Sound Blaster Live (making sure to get the proper SB0100 because of Phil's recommendation LOL). Thanks to Phil's website, all the Via chipset drivers, 3DFX, Sound Blaster, and all the documentation, tips & tricks are all in one place. Thank you Phil for all that you do! 😀👍
Thanks for the video! I had a Sempron 2800+ back in the day, on a very basic MSI motherboard. I upgraded an old PIII-based Fujitsu Scaleo, in order to play WoW, 2006. It worked like a charm, paired with a GeForce 6200. Still got it somewhere in my lab.
This was a fun one. Thanks, Phil!
Thx for the video :) Back in days I bought DFI nF3 Lanparty socket 754 motherboard and Sempron 2600+. And it was super easy to overclock so just changed the bus from 200->300 and then it went 1600mhz->2400mhz.
Good old days of FSB overclocking 😍
Love seeing your excited face every time now! ❤
I have both Sempron 2800+ for Socket 462 and 3000+ for Socket 754 - both are excellent, but I still love my Duron 1100 and 850 systems too
My first computer was the duron 1000. So much nostalgia.
I use the Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754 cpu for my Windows 98 retro gaming pc, and I do have to agree, the platform fits Win98 surprisingly well with excellent performance and stability. It might sound stupid, but the system somehow feels like an Athlon from the Thunderbird days, but turned up to 11.
Hell yes I remember the AMD Sempron 3100+, it was my first self-bought computer where I bought and built my own pc, lasted me a long time, several years before it finally died on me after a lightning strike in 2009.
Good to see the Sempron again, last one I had was on AM1. Also enjoyed your Duron videos back in the day - blast from the past.
Really a fascinating system! I never would have thought a Sempron would be that versatile. The X800 Pro/FireGL card though, that thing is great. Owned one myself back in the day and it was a real joy to use.
Yes, I remember it, I had (and still have) a later, 64 bits Palermo core 2800+. I was given a semi-broken Socket 754 board and that CPU was dirt cheap, I loved it. It was later replaced with an also gifted A64 2800+ Clawhammer with 2 missing pins 😅.
Ooh yeah 😃! It's 2004 again with the socket 754 Sempron 3100+ (always a plus) 🤗.
Thanks for the video, Phil 😉👍!
Thanks for watching!
Glad you're back on a release schedule.
wow...its awhile since ive visited your channel. I applaud the fact that you came out in front of the camera...that is a refreshing scene, im glad you made that move Phil.
Oh my first ever build was a S754. I had the Athlon 64 3400+ though, with 512mb RAM and a Radeon 9800 Pro. It felt like such a beast at the time!
Nice!
My first win98 retro pc was on 754 platform. Actually my Win98 PC is on 370's Pentium III O.C 900 mhz, Voodoo 3 3000 AGP and AWE64 CT4500. On this 754 platform with Athlon64 3400+, Radeon 9600 Pro and Live! i installed Win 2000. For Win XP i have Core 2 Extreme QX6700 O.C 3.2 GHz, GTX 280 and X-Fi Titanium.
I want to see this video about Fire GL.
Socket 754 should have never existed.
Imagine having Dual Channel RAM on Socket 462, then taking it away for it's successor.
I absolutely hated my 754 system. Sold it as soon as I could.
Props for using SDI though. That makes me immediately know you're not an idiot, lol. Nobody knows about SDI.
I do. Still fondly remember about these
I had Sempron 3000+. Served me really well for many many years 🙂
I had an XP computer with a Sempron and mechanical hard drive. it was painfully slow especially in loading games. Still have fond memories of it though.
Give that PC a SSD!
@@philscomputerlab I would if I still had it 😔
I cannot remember the brand nor model, but I used to assemble and sell tons of very affordable PCs built around a Sempron soldered onto the board. They took about 5 minutes to slap together. It was fast enough for most people and worked just fine with the stock fan and PSU that came with the case. I thought it was funny how the Sempron was often faster than the mid-range Pentiums that cost 4-5x more.
This was my first PC, built it my self in high school 👍
I think i paired it with Radeon 9550 SE 128MB, and with 512MB or DDR2
this was the cpu in my first PC! i still have the computer in storage
I remember back in 06 getting an ACER 14in laptop with a dual core AMD Sempron along with it being the last they made with an IDE HDD, and it handled XP really well till the RUclips era started to come along for me in 08, and I started to also get back into Linux, and having all kinds of issues, man how far we have come!!
Had a Sempron 3000+ Palermo, DH-E6 revision, 128mb ddr ram using the onboard via graphics. The set-up was given to me cause my Pentium III 733mhz set-up basically broke. It wasn't long till I decided the set-up definitely needs and upgrade so i bought a gig of ram and an nvidia geforce 7600GST gpu. Had fun with it for around 2 years till I moved on to my first dual core set-up. Would've stick to it much longer if my gpu wasn't acting up. For some reason the gpu I had can't play nice with the board I got which I remember was an Asus K8 VVM or something based on the via chipset. Games sometimes freeze at random. I know it's the tandem and not the card cause when I finally build my first dual core, I used the card for a while and it ran like a champ. But despite the issues I had fun with the sempron set-up. Finished some decent amount of games on that rig. I was suppose to get a Celeron D 3ghz+ cpu as the seller desperately tries to sell it to be but lucky me, my brother bought a sempron instead which back then is almost unheard of in my part of the world, AMD in general. Got pretty excited when I found out the little guy can go head to head against a Pentium 4 2.8ghz northwood easy. Good old times. So everytime a video comes out with sempron in it. I pay my respects. Cheers!
Thanks for the Video Phil. I`m very happy with the 754 system I posted on your retro page. The Motherboard came with an Athlon 64. But I also have a few Sempron CPU`s and they are Excellent for the Price. That Video card you have looks Interesting. I may have to upgrade the 9800 Pro .
Sometimes Socket 754 is the one I wished I had in the past sometimes... I don't know, I find quite fondness with that AMD CPUs Generation.
Also: 1:08 - Oopsie Daisy, Although it's probably better to lose a Thermal Pad instead... A Piece? I guess? of Thermal Paste, because that could be very... BAD... xD
I had one of those clocked to 2.65Ghz back in the day. Zalman flower cooler and an ULTRA 500 watt modular PSU and a 9600 XT. Wonderful gaming system for back in the day. Served me well for a long time.
Thank you Phil! Definitely a good idea that you started to film with your face visible!
Completely agree on 754. You can build a powerful AGP system with an On Die Memory controller for great gaming. Before I even loaded the chipset drivers in 98 I knew it was fast.
Sempron 2600+ was my daily driver throughout most of the uni. There was not much time to play games back then, but from time to time I played worms armageddon with roommates, and black&white, port royale, and dark reign 2. Later in that pc's life, I had it slightly overclocked. And soon after I gave that PC away to a neighbor when my ATI GPU died, embedded on the motherboard was useless since I switched to Linux and it did not work that well. I then just switched to a core duo laptop. And used only laptops until ryzen7 1700 came out years later.
LOL I have at least that many Old CPUs laying around as well. Also have about 20 Video Cards ranging from PCI to AGP laying around. If it wasn't so pricey I'd send some to you. Anyway thanks for the video
I had the laptop equivalent to this CPU, with the same specs. Worked pretty well at the time
What a coincidence I had just found an old winfast socket 754 motherboard with a sempron CPU in it amongst my pile of old tech hardware whilst clearing out the attic and was thinking I should make a win xp or 98 build with this! Great video as usual Phil!
Excellent video. The cheap socket 754 Sempron 3100+ was also great for overclocking. Its performance was similar to that of the expensive socket A Barton 3200+.
Another fun video Phil~
Keep up the fun!
Well damn. I have that exact processor. It is a Win 98 beast, and exactly what I use it for. My 754 board is AGP; NForce 3 board from Asus. I'm running Voodoo 2's in SLI and a Geforce 4MX 440 64MB.
That GeForce 4 I'd more powerful than both Voodoos combined lol
I do understand why you have it, I guess you needed something to do 2D acceleration
@@carltonleboss It is, but I like the Voodoo's for certain games, like Quake 2. Something about the look.
Fond memories with a Palermo Sempron 2800+ system with an ATi HD3470. It was a massive upgrade from the K6-2 PC I was stuck with until 2012. It then got retired in 2017 in favor of an Athlon X4 machine.
That was my first cpu ever , for my first build back in 05 . Then moved on to a 4000+ san diego
Wow, I thought you were in your mid twenties from your voice alone, because I've never seen you until now. I hope you view that as a compliment. Aside from that I had a Sempron die on me in that vintage. An Athlon64 3300+ took its place. My only 754 board has a Pcie video slot with onboard Nvidia 6100. It's bios coded as an Emachine and probably one of the last FIC boards ever made. I never thought of trying 98 on it, because it had XP when new.
Young at heart 😅
I had a Amd Sempron 3800 + and socket 754 board with 1.5 GB DDR 400 ram and ATI Radeon 9250 128 mb not a bad little pc worked well for what it is great for old retro gaming.
I had one of these. Overclocked it the hell out of it until I moved over to an Athlon 3700+
G'day Phil,
I love these XP projects & the really old games you test with, they are very helping to get newer parts performing without compatibility problems,
My oldest AMD is an Athlon X4 (AM3) & it is a spare for just incase my FX6300 in my W7 PC Dies, it originally had a GTX260 but now has a R9 270X Toxic & is special as it is my first "real" gaming PC I built to play ETS2 at 900p.
We were hating on 754 back in the days as not being tailored to enthusiasts but they sure seem to make decent win98 machines
my first PC I built from all new stuff I ordered myself was a sempron 3000 and an FX5500! Ran WOW great! LOL
01:25 SingleCh :) I built last month two similar systems with WinXp x64 (@1280x1024) for Doom3, UT99-2003/4, Q3, HL2, Fear, FarCry, Dungeon Siege, etc.
Version 1) Sempron64 2800+ s754 (OC 2200), 2x512 433 Geil OC ddr1, Asrock NF6 PCIE, Radeon X800GTO 256M (pipe unlock)
Version 2) Athlon64 3000+ s754 (OC 2400), 2x512 433 Geil OC ddr1, Asrock NF6, PCIE Geforce 7900GS 256M (pipe unlock)
Socket 462 is the last generation from AMD that I used on a daily basis. I've never had Socket 754. Now I have several laptops with AMD Sempron mobile processors and I must admit that today they are interesting machines, although quite power-hungry.
I just finished building my first fully compatible Windows 98 PC using a Sempron 3000+, 512mb RAM, Nvidia FX5500 (128mb) x8 AGP SATA to IDE adaptor and performance is great and no yellow question marks in device mangler - its all I need. Some DOS games would trigger epilepsy, so thanks for the tips on how to slow things down.
I built my little brother a Sempron 2400+ socket A back in the day while I had the Athlon 2800+
great video and thats a lot of work putting all of these different OS testing together.
I got Sempron 2500+ s754 back in the day, despite its paltry 1.4GHz clockspeed it beats my previous Pentium 4 2Ghz Northwood clocked at 3GHz in PCMark04. Also it can easily overclock to 2.5GHz on stock cooler and slightly higher voltage than stock
Nice video! My parents had an old laptop with mobile Sempron 3200+ and nvidia chipset in it. It has support for amd64, albeit extremely buggy. Windows XP x64 and Windows 7 64 bit just constantly blue screened, and Debian amd64 kernel panicked while it was booting from the installation disc. I've never thought of loading an older OS on it -- which I think I probably should try after watching this video (although I believe the driver for the chipset only goes up to win2k).
I got rid of all my boards with Nvidia chipset, half of them failed and I found the VIA chipset boards just work.
@@philscomputerlab yeah... I named AMD CPU+nvidia chipset the nightmare combo for a reason ;)
Good that 754 processors have a metal shield. Previous generation socket 462 processors were very easy to crush. I crushed my Duron 850 when I was trying to replace cooling and thermal paste.
Thanks for the video. There is always more to learn about retro stuff. I recently picked up a new in box Socket 478 motherboard and the thing that surprised me was that it had PCIe and SATA2 and was made in 2007. I always thought 478 was just for AGP and IDE. By 2007 Socket 775 had been out for awhile so I wonder why they made it.
Love your CPU reviews.
awesome! Thanks for posting. have a good weekend
I'm quite impressed by the results on Far Cry1, they are more than correct.
I played it with a dual XP1800 modded as MP and a 6800, but don't remember the numbers.
45 fps were quite correct in those years.
I didn't even know there were 32-bit only socket 754 cpus.
The Sempron 2800+ was the CPU I used in the first PC I ever fully built and didn't just upgrade. I can't really remember much about the build except it used an ECS motherboard with a purple PCB lol I think I put a 9600XT in it? It's been awhile. I really liked that 754 platform...it was really cheap to get into something decently fast. I remember having fun overclocking that Sempron. I built this when I was around...I don't know...17? I had previously only bought OEM PC and upgraded them. I've since built hundreds, maybe thousands of PC.
Ah yes the purple ECS motherboards 😍
@@philscomputerlab We need those funky PCB colors to come back!
Socket 754 is definitely a good platform for a first retro build - flexible, usually stable (check those motherboard caps when buying), compatible with modern PSUs and coolers, and typically cheap. I have a Sempron 3400+ build that is just right for mid-era XP stuff like UT2004.
You summed it up perfectly!
In 2005 I had a rare sempron 3000+ for socket 939. I expected to change it in the future to Athlon X2, but these processors were too expensive at first, and then quickly disappeared from stores.
Semprons and Durons where the bread and butter of my cheap computing of the time. Used them in XP Media Center and worked fine with FX 5200 I believe 😄
Excellent Phil 👍👍👍
can't believe your parts is still shiny..
mine either looks gray (oxidized by moist air) or super dusty
Here is my comment today for the YT algorithm,
Happy Philday
Sempron 3100+ is a great cpu from overclocking on the Nvidia NForce 3/4 platform, it would be interesting to do Overcloking and compare it with other processor models
Yes and thanks for making me feel old
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I would love to see more 754 content!
I remember Semprons having x86-64 instruction set, so I was a bit confused when you said they were 32-bit. Apparently, AMD started producing Semprons with x86-64 support starting in second half of 2005., with Palermo core on E6 stepping, and all them up to that point were indeed 32-bit only, including your Paris core.
Definitely interested in the other socket 754 CPUs and the FireGL as there isn't much content about non-Radeon ATI cards. Only had AMD CPUs in my desktops since childhood: Duron 700(skt. A) > Athlon 64 3500+(skt. 939) > Phenom II X4 840(skt. AM3) > Ryzen 1600AF(skt. AM4). The Phenom-based system still works great today and I'm considering getting a 939 board one day to put the Athlon to work again.
I swear by the Phenom IIs, really amazing chips, just a shame about the lack of SSE4.1... My mother has a PC with a X4 955 going strong today as a Office and Video Playback machine.
In fact, it was a handmedown, because I used it previously for some light gaming (GRID, Overwatch 1 and 2, Team Fortress 2), and it performed.
@@juanignacioaschura9437 Big fan of GRID, it's probably among the top 5 best games I've ever played. In 2020 when I got the 1600AF, my plan was to keep running the Phenom II, but my PCI-E 1.0 motherboard refused to work with the Radeon RX 570 8GB I bought that year, so I was forced to upgrade and got lucky with the $90 1600AF. I know the X4 would have bottlenecked the RX 570 8GB in some games, but I'm a 30-60fps gamer so I would've been ok with a few stutters here and there. From what I've seen in videos including Phil's video about the Athlon II X4 640, I'd have been fine with the Phenom II X4 in the games I play. The K10 4 and 6 core CPUs have definitely aged really well.
Omg i just put a face to phill's voice... Now i'm complete.
I remember. Nostalgia.
Good job as always!
great video😉
I used an Athlon 64 for a couple of years! Not the best CPU but at the time it was all I had and it did the job :)
I have one mounted on a motherboard waiting for a project. Got to say, @PhilsComputerLab I hadn’t considered a Win98 project? A 98/XP hybrid PC with say a Geforce 4 Ti perhaps?
Great video as ever, thanks.
Yea there are many options, so many options. A GeForce 4 Ti would be awesome for a Windows 98 DX7 / XP DX8 hybrid PC.
It's amazing that my Thoroughbred Sempron was released at around the same time. Funnily enough I've noticed that in a fair few games and even benchmarks it bottlenecks my FX 5700 - and Paris based Sempron are significantly faster clock for clock.
When it comes to late Socket A, Sempron seem to be the sweet spot these days with how much people ask for slower Athlon XP.
I had a AMD Sempron 2500+ socket 754... It was my first computer...
This is the CPU I really want new back in the day as it's like the bridge between old and new age. But in the end I can't get. The computer shop which I went to ask when this thing came out had been shut down in the later year and soon that entire mall which that shop used to place also get renovated to become a mall that sell cheap clothes in place of computer center. And even then I still didn't get my first PC due to my old townhouse doesn't have enough space to place a PC and my parents always complain "Why you need a PC when we already 2-3 laptops at home?".
This thing is like, the first thing after I learned about PC that come with a new platform and cheap enough for me to be interested at the time. It also looks like Pentium 4 but not a Pentium 4 and come from AMD. So this is really the first computer part I want my father to buy for me but he didn't bought however he keep buying a laptop for me whenever his acquaintances sell is cheaply to him which I never really want. When I have a chance to build a PC in 2010 (and I get that chance just because I played Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 on those laptops and it broke the laptop VGA card which is only the Intel GMA onboard graphic, the local computer service already repaired it 2 time and then broke again after I play game, the service shop then suggest that the repair is not worth it and suggest that I should buy a PC so my father finally bought a PC for me just because of the shop's suggestion), this thing is already far too obsolete and I didn't see anyone sell it anymore.
I never get this model of processor but I will always remember this processor as it remind me of the time when I want to build a PC and have read enough material to be able to build one right away but didn't get a chance for too long time.
I remember having a 2800+ with Venice-256 core. Overclocked to 2.4GHz (50% OC) with the all-aluminium stock cooler and would've went even higher, but the board's (Asus K8N) max bus was only 300.
Would be nice to see some benchmarks comparing the socket 754 Sempron 3100+ to the older socket A Sempron and even Barton.
yes, I have 4 of them for... reasons :D I dont even have a board for them at the moment. I think I bought them for being single core, 32bit.
Ohh I had one of these bad boys back in the day!
I had a Sempron in Socket A and Sempron 64 in 754, back when I was a poor teenager, great budget choice. I was heartbroken when I spent a lot of time compiling the Linux kernel to get the new KVM features only to discover that Sempron 64 lacked those instructions... Fast virtualization would have been nice...