I never played wow so I don't understand how this works. Why do people even try to run away? In any clips I see the mobs always catch up to you and seem to never lose agro. Can you actually get away?
@@Screcythere’s a thing called leashing. So a mob will attack you for a certain distance, then turn back if you/they haven’t hit the other. If they keep managing to hit you, they’ll follow you further. Some mobs have slows and such that help them keep up.
@@evanfischer5282 in fairness though, I played WoW for 5 years and never once was I able to outrun a mob from the position of standing next to it. If you have a head start then maybe, but not from the middle of a battle.
@@benhagstrom2185 Plenty of ways to break away - but you need to have your tools off CD, and you need to know which one is best to use. Probably the best class to get away is hunters - second best possibly rogues. Alright - so lets start with Pets - Hunters and Warlocks both have a tank pet that can grab agro if you are relatively careful or haven't engaged the mob yet. Simply abandon your pet, and run. Later on mages got that water elemental and that two can work the same way. For Racial abilities - night elf shadowmeld in various patches was an outright combat break. For class abilities - Hunters are the winner here with: Concussion shot, Scatter shot, Frost trap, Freeze trap, Wing clip... and I'm probably forgetting SOMETHING... maybe a pet ability? Anyway: There is a lot here. Rogues have - Vanish, Blind, Kidney Shot, Sprint, Guoge. Warriors have - Hamstring, heroic leap Mages - Frost Nova, Blink, Invisibility spell Paladins have - Bubble (becoming invulnerability breaks combat) Druids have Dash, and depending on patch/expansion might just outheal everything until they get to safety, and I'm not kidding about that. Warlocks - Fear, Succubus Seduction ability. Priests - Mind Control (nothing like mind controlling an enemy away from you to buy time and distance), Fear, discs bubbles (this is more just the damage absorption bubble then the paladin invulnerability - but it can still allow you to get away). I think that's enough to make the point that pretty much every class has away to do it. Some have... distinctly more tools at their disposal (now finding button slots for those is another matter... yay macro's with modifier keys and the like) And remember - if you are playing Vanilla or BC... the only class that can hope to take something on that is of a higher level (like that 3+ levels even up to ~10 if you don't mind burning the amunition is... Hunter, because unlike every other movement impairing ability Daze (concusion shot) DOES NOT have diminishing returns)
This is what happens when you level up the way they do by mob tagging and getting carried. They don't know how to play the class. Then when they have to actually level by themselves, they don't know what to do. As for Asmon, he's been having alot of bad takes lately or simping for his friends. That was 100% Miz's fault. Miz charged in and pulled 2 with EWmi below 1/2 mana in a packed cave. Miz pulled an extra caster because he wasn't paying attention... not Emi. Miz made the call to run and Emi questioned it. Miz makes the call to run again. So Emi running out wasn't her fault. Emi played this one about as well as she could with such a terrible partner. Maybe they should switch. Emi tanks while Miz heals. Maybe then he'll learn more about what the limits are in hardcore instead of unnecessarily roaching out like on this death.
@@macbrush"what are these morons doing? Are they playing blindfolded or what?" 😂😂😂 Which is to be expected, imagine learning to play darksouls for the first time except everytime you die, your character gets deleted. You'd take at least 10x longer to learn how to play properly. Now imagine you used cheat codes (twink gear and all the consumables in the world in wow terms) in darksouls that enabled you to breeze through half the game whithout even dying, but at that point the cheats suddendly stop helping: you'd just die for the first time and you'd have learned absolutly 0 about how to actually play the game properly.
their health barely went down at all.. the enemies werent even elites.. he was 100% fine.. if he was by himself i would understand if he paniced but.. he has a dedicated healer and there was no risk there.. he made a 0% chance to die possible because of panicing if he starts panicing like that in raids he will kill a lot of raid members he is dangerous to the guild.
most normal players dont have a dedicated healer with them.. a warrior with a dedicated healer is one of the strongest combos in classic.. you shouldn't die by trash mobs with that combo.. maybe if he was solo@@macbrush
@@macbrush a normal player would probably not get boosted to lvl 40 over and over and would probably die and get punished a lot earlier in their runs to the point they're forced to learn the game or quit.
It's odd to talk about this like it's a big deal. They're streamers, this is their job. They didn't "waste" 3 days of their life, it was just 3 normal days at work. If anything, it was 3 productive days since they made a spectacle.
That’s what I was thinking. How many other people that don’t stream die at 60 and no one cares or knows about it. But then these two die the whole commune freaks out. There both awful at the game and don’t know how to play there roles well at all.
You sir, you got it. The streamer has to provide entertainment, that's it! The streamer does not need to be a master tryhard chad. The streamer only needs to provide content that will keep the attention from spectators, drama caughts attention, to hear Asmon and Sodapopping trashing Mizkiff is good enough and more interesting than the gameplay itself (IMO) And this is the reason streamers play Hardcore, because it is a slow cooking dish of drama, the longer and far away they reach, the more impactful and views when they die
Such an unfair take tho, like I’m pretty sure he thought the mob that ran aggroed like 4-6 mobs plus add the stress of the moment… this is just how hc goes people make errors and bad judgment calls under stress
Miz needs to play as a healer so he can learn some awareness. First he pulled a bunch of mobs, didn’t realized it was him that pulled it, and didn’t keep aggro on them causing Emi to die. Second got his teammate killed by not paying attention to his screen. and Now in this video he ran in when Emi had less than half of her Mana, told her to run when she would’ve been fine, and over pulled even more mobs when he should’ve stand his ground.
@@pt9373 It was Miz's call to run and she asked if he was sure. Also i'm guessing you need to start asking for mb about 10 mobs early to stop Miz from chain pulling.
Seemed like they were perfectly fine until she pulls and said she didnt have mana. He probably believed her and said they should run then, she's literally running out of the cave ahead of him at this point. @@leohuxtable439
Also apparently no one has any idea how much mana priest instant spells cost in vanilla. You also don't top yourself because you expect everything to go well.
@@leohuxtable439 At the moment of the fuck-up, Emi had 40% Mana, 55% HP, while Miz had 60%HP, and they were against 2 siren casters with a large area cleared around them. The most dangerous parts had already been overcome. You cannot tell me she didn't have enough mana for them to finish the fight safely, and then either eat up or hearth out. Not saying it's only her fault or only his fault, but they just both panicked and ran like headless chicken.
He's the type of player that parses 50 in raids, but tries to tell everyone how its done. Mizkif is very bad, I don't think he'd get past 19 solo on war.
I gotta say, Miz got really far while being so completely clueless about spec and gear. It's hard to not say he doesn't get carried by heals. Must have been rough AF to get this far.
Thats a risk in classic you have to take into consideration and the chain of events make that one single resist much worse. Pulling when the healer has no mana.... its the oldest story in the book. You think you quickly do 1-2 mobs and it will be fine and suddenly you pull a whole pack. So basically don't get yourself in hc into situations where 1 resist can kill you.
This is why as a tank you remain calm and work on getting the surrounding area under control LoS and hold that spot and die on if it you must. This does nothing except pulls everything you just killed that spawned back in and you die anyways... Also, that fear at the end is a death sentence... I was actually impressed that Emi did WAY better than I thought she would in this but, this falls on Mizkif cause, all he had to do was pull the extra mobs get around something and LoS the casters and that was it.
i have never played wow but why does he continue to run through more enemies? does it not just make sense to plant your feet and deal with the two or three they had at first and then just chill and heal up?
It's when the panic sets in but sometimes it is correct to run out, even if means running by 6 mobs. If you know 100% sure you're dead unless you run, you should run. You'll take damage on the way out but maybe you'll live. They panicked when they were just fine but to add insult to injury they then messed up running out when he feared and pulled more, even mobs some outside to the left, they didn't utilize LoS at all. Then they got split up somehow, not sure why Emi didn't stay with him. She was slowed but should've been able to keep up better than she did. Then she ran to the worst place in the world, a building clipped into the side of the world. Unless you REALLY know the area don't try those tricks peoples. Mobs rarely care about where you're standing in the outside world, especially when they're casters and you didn't LoS them at the same time as getting to a "safe spot". Hers was not a safe spot and was actually a trap with no way out. (I know the shape of those buildings). Most structures will provide LoS but a few rare ones don't for example most trees don't provide LoS. I think those white pillars are one of those structures that doesn't provide LoS. Even if she did climb that hill and get running up there the mobs would've just walked up the hill. They don't care how steep a hill is. They care how the polygons meet. They normally have some kind of way to get to you in the outside world. That's my semi-detailed analysis as a long time classic player.
You don't quite understand the situation. He said to run because he thought it was more than just +2 getting aggro'd. When he realised it was only +2, he said stay, but by the time Emi understood that she walked into +1 and said she was low mana. Now it's a call of stay and maybe die or run and maybe die. All this is split second decisions and panic has set in. They definately forgot just how many more there are outside, and have to stick to running.
Has to get a better sense of what actually constitutes danger. Staying and killed 2 more mobs with a pocket healer with low mana, that is a managable situation. Panicking and running through the whole thing pulling 10 guys is not lol also Asmon is right they should learn how to LOS
Why though? To get carried instead of figuring out the game for themselves? To get less intense and funny moments to make content out of? To have the hardcore experience not be hard?
@@gweeb982 Imagine thinking that people need a coach to learn to play a video game. And at least Miz has already played WoW back in the day. And considering that they've died only like couple of times, they seem to be doing just fine.
The reason I think they should bring someone along is so that the experienced player could teach them and help them clutch up so they don't have to keep starting over.
@@John-w8p The point of hardcore WoW is the fact that you'll have to start over though. If you never start over, what's the difference between hc and normal classic?
I think there is two points I'm trying to make. I immensely respect Miz and Emi for going again after tough losses of chracters. Thats point 1 but I also think back to the Mok'gura tournament with what Soda said. There was never going to be a dark horse in that tournament because the only way you get to that level is by playing with top level players. Sharing information and collaborating to push each other to the top is the only way to get that good. Miz and Emi have been grinding 1-43 for months and they aren't learning any new skills by dying 2 hours after spending 24 hours leveling back to where they were. It's time for them to learn from other players. They took their lumps and paid their dues and they deserve to learn new skills from better players.
That naga cave is on the island in Feralas, its really dangerous for most classes. I grinded for days there while leveling my rogue its a great spot, mobs have good drops, nice pickpockets and junkboxes for lockpicking, and respawn fast so you can just do laps around the cave. Many times I would have died without being able to Vanish. That's a death zone for warriors.
@@MrShimmerMan You're right but I think after Miz told her to run after she was unsure about it, she just made up her mind to run. I think if Miz knew what he was doing he would've 1. never told her to run or 2. been more adamant about her not running. Like if he said "No wait Emi! Just stay! It'll be worse if you run!" She might've stayed and they probably would've lived. He didn't it say it like that because he was also unsure. Like Asmon said, they need to have a baby sitter who knows what they're doing.
They both just kept making bad decision after bad decision, but Emi panicking saying "Im out of mana" when she was at 40% and started running to collect more mobs was the nail in the coffin. IF there was a bug with her UI that caused her to freak out, so be it, but we'll never know. When Emi started heading for the exit Miz panicked and started collecting mobs like it was Pokemon.
Also, Miz wearing every piece of gear he could get off the AH regardless of whether it was good or not is hilarious. I guess streamers can afford to splurge on the AH thanks to donations from fans.
As the healer she should be making the call to run or not. By this level you should have a good idea of what you can do with your mana. In this case 40% mana for 2 mobs is fine. You can always mana pot if needed or tell him to let you spirit tap the next mob for a bit more regen.
Isle of Dread cave: - Hyper-respawn - Claustrophobic space - problematic add spells Let's be honest if i do the quests, as soon i can turn in i hearthstone
I can't wait for the day he gets 60 and these idiots let him raid with them, it's gonna be glorious. That's gonna be content for at least 5-10 videos from the same group of people lol all defending him saying... yeahhhh the raid wiped but it wasn't his fault! LOL
Miz thought the dynamite mob was going to pull a lot, and it only was 1 more siren, so 2 casters total, Emi by that time was already running and panicked when facing the new full health mob and her supposedly low mana, when Miz whispered to stop she panicked more. Lack of experience in RPGs, lack of problem solving experience in WoW, call it what you want, but her brain went into default mode, run/no mana, Miz was too slow to fix his mistake and the new mistake Emi was making, and compounded the problem by also running into more mobs and so on until they died.
biggest factors here imo as someone who has quite literally never played wow in their life, panic is #1 factor and #2 was the call to run... it wasn't necessarily a bad call in itself because he thought there was going to be 4 or more on them and shit was getting sketchy. But he realized I think and went to say something after he finished the 2 melee and saw the casters on the corner, and she kind of freaked out and was like "I DONT HAVE THIS SPELL" or w/e she was referring too and ran into the other mobs fully committing them too running... which completely doomed them. So I'll say this, miz was distracted and pulled too much/at a bad time, and he made bad call when he said to run so it was his mistakes that put them there... but honestly it was emi's mistakes that got them killed. She panicked way too hard once he said they needed to bail, she should have let him go first ahead of her or something idk exactly how it works but her running straight into agro screaming "I DONT HAVE..." is bad news bears. It's still his fault because he made the initial mistake and was "leading" the party and making the calls so its his responsibility, but you cant really blame him at the same time cause technically she was the one that got them killed. But that's just my unbiased opinion as someone who has A: never played WoW and B: no idea who either of them are other than hearing about them before Hell I don't even watch asmongold.. but I somehow got stuck in a rabbit hole of his clips.... I blame the editors.
Miz is a genuine example of player who dumb enough not to understand how the game and mechanics works and who NOT wanna learn to understand them, but blames everyone around him. 10/10. I think he should try EvE Online next. This might be hilarious. P.S. I laughed when disclaimer appeared, where Miz asked not to upload Asmons reaction.
Really makes you stop and appreciate that you're watching someone reacting to someone else reacting to someone recording themselves playing a 20-year-old game. Content!
They now have series how-to-die-in-classic 1000 times. Series has upcoming episode 3/1000. Episode 1: Ships are bad in Classic Episode 2: Caves are bad in Classic. Episode 3 will be announced later.
@@tony2pumps1 Its not about being a pro, Miz just doesn't respect the game enough to learn it. He's playing it with friends who love the game and taking half hearted measures in the name of content.
and part 4 and part 5, if he actually makes it to part 6 and/or ever gets to raid, that's gonna be some move theater level fucking content to see how many others die because of him too.
@@digitalkel83 he's rich. I'd just pay someone to level various mizzes up so it would just be like regular wow. its a wow butler. on another note, if you are reading this mizz, I humbly submit an application to this job.
16:28 he was reacting to the level 60 dying... even though he said "lets finish up and get out of here so we can react to it" thats why he pulled 2 mobs wasn't paying attention.. that's what he said anyways when they were talking about it
Looked totally deliberate to me. They really had no readon to panic at the start. Looked deliberate and the way he was tellin em to run was like he was whiteknighting.
The weirdness of the simps white knighting for Emi is unreal. It's legit so cringy. Just treat the woman like a normal human being, tell her she made some fuckin mistakes here and move on. They both made mistakes, they'll both learn, they'll both make it to 60 eventually.
So lots of mistakes and unfortunate things happened here, obviously, but Emi's mistake is continuing to group with the guy that already got her killed once(and tried to blame it on her and the other group member). I feel bad for her, because this is likely due to pressure from this guild.
No matter of my attitude to Emi, I think playing with Miz is like a death mark. Anyway, caves are always hard. Especially this one. I was fine in it playing a druid, but Felwood cave killed me on escort quest. Escort quests in caves sucks.
i made this quest yesterday as a rogue. Just grind through the mobs, kill them all, get exp, find a random mage buddy, party together, enter the cave, grind more, turn quest safely. Zero vanish, zero iceblock, kiling 1-2-3 mobs at one moment. No hurry, SAFU
If we didn't hear him correct it how could Emi have? Let's be real Miz made mistakes even before that point they should have have had to run, and in fact they didn't they could've stayed and killed remaining 2 in cave
Thing is they managed to kite 5+ mobs for so long. Can't keep my self from thinking how easily they could have just killed those two or even that 3rd mob they pulled initially.
I'd call myself inexperienced when it comes to WoW, at best, but from how it looked to me, they just ran around in a panic and just aggro'd literally everything. The whole thing just felt absolutely stupid. Like is that all that basically happened?
Kinda. But unless you played the game you dont know how hard it can be, especially for unexperienced players. Panic happens to nearly everyone at some point, raid wipes show this really well usually. 1 person fucks up 1 mechanic and everyone starts running around like headless chicken. It allways looks stupid from the outside basically.
I thought about that, imagine working a job and leveling alone without 10 people helping you farm and people giving you gold. it makes you allot more careful
Miz tried to play both the characters. Its his fault. If your guild leader tells you to do something you do it. She was told by miz to do something so she trusted the group leader and did it. Was 100% on him. Shit happens tho
I got my first HC toon, a druid, to 13. That's been my main since TBC. Then I tried mage and got to 4. That was a lesson in what "caves = graves" means.; level 4 is an especially dangerous level to be alone and have 3 mobs spawn on you in the middle of a cave. I then rerolled the same character and got to 18. Getting to 7 sounds like a walk in the park but it can't be guaranteed. Keep your valuables on that toon if you think so. Not a good idea. Shit happens and you learn from it. HC sounds unbearably brutal, but much less so if you remember two things: everybody else goes through the same thing, and we get FREE server transfers--so you can continue leveling that character on a non-HC server. Defias Pillager and Skull Rock are not just servers, but communities of characters that have never died. But dying isn't supposed to be the end. You always go again. Almost everybody has gone again or is about to (or else they wouldn't be there). I recommend leveling alts simultaneously to soften the blow :)
Flight or fight works the same in wow, you just gotta know when to do either one. As someone who has died in HC a few times, one in being on level 45. Its absolutely demoralizing. You need a week break from it and just come back and get it. You live and learn and realize how careful you have to be.
That's one of the easiest caves in the game and the best in terms of exp (mobs are too low hp for their level) you just need to know this: 1. You need to know how to LoS casters. It's a very advanced technique where you hide behind a wall/rock and the mob runs towards you. Very complicated to execute. 2. There is only ONE single patrol in the entire cave that goes in and out the cave. The pathing is very hard to track, the mob goes inside the cave at a speed of 1-2mph aproximately and turns left into the corridor and then goes back outside. It's actually the one that get's aggroed in the video. 3. Pull mobs to you, even if you charge in. This is what happens when you get mob tagged from lvl 1 a trillion times, you don't experience the game and you don't learn anything. The entire thing was avoidable if both had more experience on how to play the game in their own.
I don't understand why so many people in WoW HC (even somewhat experienced ones) do this thing where they keep moving and pulling more mobs, when it is clear they can deal with the ones already pulled. They had one mob at 21%, one at 3% (the one that fled and came back) and two casters at 100% in a corner. They had that whole room for themselves. He could one-hit the 3%, pull the 21% to the two casters in that SAFE corner, get threat on the casters and Emi's 1400 mana would be enough for this because the healing would become less intense as soon there was only the 2 casters left. Only run if you're unmistakably overwhelmed. Running away should be a low priority option, not the default reaction. And yeah it was 100% his fault, not saying this to simp or anything. She never suggested running and she was positioning safe in the cleared space at all times. The warrior was the one who kept pulling more mobs, doing a LOT of unnecessary movement past them. He played like a 8 year-old who is playing this for the first time, getting all excited and running everywhere.
No. “We” didn’t get caught up in it, you weren’t paying attention to what was going on behind you. Speaking as a healer that does mostly PUGs, the biggest issue in WOW today is wannabe tanks that think every run is a speed run and never consider group comp and what s going on behind them.
the only thing esfand is wrong about is when he says they both panicked. miz tells emi to run. she says are you sure? and miz says yea just run run. that's why they ran. miz made the bad call. it's 3 bad things that miz did. first pulling when emi was low, then pulling again immediately, then calling the run. he also ran poorly, so could be 4 things.
I find it kind of insulting to Emiru when everyone treats her like an Egg (pun intended). She has beaten all the Souls Games, she isn't new to Gaming, you don't have to treat her like a Child that needs to be taken care of. Mizkif might have some responsibility for being more knowledgeable about WoW in general, but that doesn't mean she can't do no wrong either.
It's funny that Asmon watching death compilations is just he having pain or laughing all the time. But when it's one of his friends it's a whole scandal full of investigations.
Asmon edited the comment. That viewer also said that they were flipping furniture in the living room and pissing themselves. But asmon removed that clear meme from the comment and presented it as a serious one.
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"Should Emi have roached on Miz?"
Asmon whispers: "Yes." 😂
“He needs to stop doing things wrong and he needs to start doing things right”
Amazing advice
I would’ve never thought of that one 😂
1 - Clearly Miz and Emi should be marked to see each other, this is ridiculous;
2 - The rest has been said before
Came here to say just this please upvote this comment everyone..this is a bigger deal than 99% of people will ever realize. Cheers @mrchinosofexodar
Idk why people dont always mark themselves when in a party.
Like I get in raids you need to use the marks but in party you may as well all have marks
It's so hilarious when people panic and aggro every mob within a 3 mile radius running around everywhere.
I never played wow so I don't understand how this works. Why do people even try to run away? In any clips I see the mobs always catch up to you and seem to never lose agro. Can you actually get away?
@@Screcythere’s a thing called leashing. So a mob will attack you for a certain distance, then turn back if you/they haven’t hit the other. If they keep managing to hit you, they’ll follow you further. Some mobs have slows and such that help them keep up.
@@evanfischer5282 in fairness though, I played WoW for 5 years and never once was I able to outrun a mob from the position of standing next to it. If you have a head start then maybe, but not from the middle of a battle.
Love that shit 😂 just fucking kill what you got your better off trying haha
@@benhagstrom2185 Plenty of ways to break away - but you need to have your tools off CD, and you need to know which one is best to use. Probably the best class to get away is hunters - second best possibly rogues.
Alright - so lets start with Pets - Hunters and Warlocks both have a tank pet that can grab agro if you are relatively careful or haven't engaged the mob yet. Simply abandon your pet, and run. Later on mages got that water elemental and that two can work the same way.
For Racial abilities - night elf shadowmeld in various patches was an outright combat break.
For class abilities - Hunters are the winner here with: Concussion shot, Scatter shot, Frost trap, Freeze trap, Wing clip... and I'm probably forgetting SOMETHING... maybe a pet ability? Anyway: There is a lot here.
Rogues have - Vanish, Blind, Kidney Shot, Sprint, Guoge.
Warriors have - Hamstring, heroic leap
Mages - Frost Nova, Blink, Invisibility spell
Paladins have - Bubble (becoming invulnerability breaks combat)
Druids have Dash, and depending on patch/expansion might just outheal everything until they get to safety, and I'm not kidding about that.
Warlocks - Fear, Succubus Seduction ability.
Priests - Mind Control (nothing like mind controlling an enemy away from you to buy time and distance), Fear, discs bubbles (this is more just the damage absorption bubble then the paladin invulnerability - but it can still allow you to get away).
I think that's enough to make the point that pretty much every class has away to do it. Some have... distinctly more tools at their disposal (now finding button slots for those is another matter... yay macro's with modifier keys and the like)
And remember - if you are playing Vanilla or BC... the only class that can hope to take something on that is of a higher level (like that 3+ levels even up to ~10 if you don't mind burning the amunition is... Hunter, because unlike every other movement impairing ability Daze (concusion shot) DOES NOT have diminishing returns)
This is what happens when you level up the way they do by mob tagging and getting carried. They don't know how to play the class. Then when they have to actually level by themselves, they don't know what to do. As for Asmon, he's been having alot of bad takes lately or simping for his friends. That was 100% Miz's fault. Miz charged in and pulled 2 with EWmi below 1/2 mana in a packed cave. Miz pulled an extra caster because he wasn't paying attention... not Emi. Miz made the call to run and Emi questioned it. Miz makes the call to run again. So Emi running out wasn't her fault. Emi played this one about as well as she could with such a terrible partner. Maybe they should switch. Emi tanks while Miz heals. Maybe then he'll learn more about what the limits are in hardcore instead of unnecessarily roaching out like on this death.
Very true.
They both have zero situational awareness so they are doomed no matter what.
Imagine a normal player did the same and what Asmond's reaction would be?
@@macbrush"what are these morons doing? Are they playing blindfolded or what?" 😂😂😂
Which is to be expected, imagine learning to play darksouls for the first time except everytime you die, your character gets deleted. You'd take at least 10x longer to learn how to play properly.
Now imagine you used cheat codes (twink gear and all the consumables in the world in wow terms) in darksouls that enabled you to breeze through half the game whithout even dying, but at that point the cheats suddendly stop helping: you'd just die for the first time and you'd have learned absolutly 0 about how to actually play the game properly.
their health barely went down at all.. the enemies werent even elites.. he was 100% fine.. if he was by himself i would understand if he paniced but.. he has a dedicated healer and there was no risk there.. he made a 0% chance to die possible because of panicing if he starts panicing like that in raids he will kill a lot of raid members he is dangerous to the guild.
most normal players dont have a dedicated healer with them.. a warrior with a dedicated healer is one of the strongest combos in classic.. you shouldn't die by trash mobs with that combo.. maybe if he was solo@@macbrush
@@macbrush a normal player would probably not get boosted to lvl 40 over and over and would probably die and get punished a lot earlier in their runs to the point they're forced to learn the game or quit.
That confident call for run out was the death setence
It's odd to talk about this like it's a big deal. They're streamers, this is their job. They didn't "waste" 3 days of their life, it was just 3 normal days at work. If anything, it was 3 productive days since they made a spectacle.
That’s what I was thinking. How many other people that don’t stream die at 60 and no one cares or knows about it. But then these two die the whole commune freaks out. There both awful at the game and don’t know how to play there roles well at all.
You sir, you got it.
The streamer has to provide entertainment, that's it!
The streamer does not need to be a master tryhard chad.
The streamer only needs to provide content that will keep the attention from spectators, drama caughts attention, to hear Asmon and Sodapopping trashing Mizkiff is good enough and more interesting than the gameplay itself (IMO)
And this is the reason streamers play Hardcore, because it is a slow cooking dish of drama, the longer and far away they reach, the more impactful and views when they die
Thank you! Took the words from my mouth sir
It's ridiculous this is considered "Drama"
Chatters are weird
W thinking, their chats are brain rot
imagine the decision : kill 2 mobs or aggro 20 mobs ? miz : let's aggro 20 mobs !
Let the caster eat or charge into the next 4 mob fight?
guys a bell
this priest could’ve heal at any point when they had even 4-5 mobs, or dispel while they were running smh
This is so common and I'll never understand it.
Such an unfair take tho, like I’m pretty sure he thought the mob that ran aggroed like 4-6 mobs plus add the stress of the moment… this is just how hc goes people make errors and bad judgment calls under stress
Miz needs to play as a healer so he can learn some awareness.
First he pulled a bunch of mobs, didn’t realized it was him that pulled it, and didn’t keep aggro on them causing Emi to die.
Second got his teammate killed by not paying attention to his screen.
and Now in this video he ran in when Emi had less than half of her Mana, told her to run when she would’ve been fine, and over pulled even more mobs when he should’ve stand his ground.
About to suggest the same.
??????? 6:20 they have 2 mobs left, shes 45% mana, and she runs out and pulls more saying she has no mana
@@pt9373 It was Miz's call to run and she asked if he was sure. Also i'm guessing you need to start asking for mb about 10 mobs early to stop Miz from chain pulling.
Seemed like they were perfectly fine until she pulls and said she didnt have mana. He probably believed her and said they should run then, she's literally running out of the cave ahead of him at this point. @@leohuxtable439
Make a druid. That way you can learn healer and tank.
1 Never leave your healer behind
2. If your tank leaves you and pulls more mobs and you know its doom hearth immediately
As a former shaman, not letting the caster eat before the warrior Leroy's forward is pretty sickening.
Also apparently no one has any idea how much mana priest instant spells cost in vanilla. You also don't top yourself because you expect everything to go well.
True, it would work in retail, but classic is different with slower mana regen and higher casting costs.
@@leohuxtable439 At the moment of the fuck-up, Emi had 40% Mana, 55% HP, while Miz had 60%HP, and they were against 2 siren casters with a large area cleared around them. The most dangerous parts had already been overcome. You cannot tell me she didn't have enough mana for them to finish the fight safely, and then either eat up or hearth out.
Not saying it's only her fault or only his fault, but they just both panicked and ran like headless chicken.
she could drink up to full mana while he is fighting
there is no need for him to wait for her mana
People always act like the tank is holding a gun to the healers head telling them not to drink. Just sit down and drink when you can lol
He's the type of player that parses 50 in raids, but tries to tell everyone how its done. Mizkif is very bad, I don't think he'd get past 19 solo on war.
I gotta say, Miz got really far while being so completely clueless about spec and gear. It's hard to not say he doesn't get carried by heals. Must have been rough AF to get this far.
Thats a risk in classic you have to take into consideration and the chain of events make that one single resist much worse. Pulling when the healer has no mana.... its the oldest story in the book. You think you quickly do 1-2 mobs and it will be fine and suddenly you pull a whole pack. So basically don't get yourself in hc into situations where 1 resist can kill you.
This is why as a tank you remain calm and work on getting the surrounding area under control LoS and hold that spot and die on if it you must. This does nothing except pulls everything you just killed that spawned back in and you die anyways... Also, that fear at the end is a death sentence... I was actually impressed that Emi did WAY better than I thought she would in this but, this falls on Mizkif cause, all he had to do was pull the extra mobs get around something and LoS the casters and that was it.
imagine if miz panic like that in a raid.. oh shit, oh fuck start run.. pulls mobs and get your whole raid wiped
Who cares who's fault
instead of healing or dispelling let’s do holy nova and then say i have no mana right
i have never played wow but why does he continue to run through more enemies? does it not just make sense to plant your feet and deal with the two or three they had at first and then just chill and heal up?
Thats a good question :)
since it is a 1 life char ppl are starting too panic pretty early yeah that leads to poor decisions :D but yea you are right.
It's when the panic sets in but sometimes it is correct to run out, even if means running by 6 mobs. If you know 100% sure you're dead unless you run, you should run. You'll take damage on the way out but maybe you'll live. They panicked when they were just fine but to add insult to injury they then messed up running out when he feared and pulled more, even mobs some outside to the left, they didn't utilize LoS at all. Then they got split up somehow, not sure why Emi didn't stay with him. She was slowed but should've been able to keep up better than she did. Then she ran to the worst place in the world, a building clipped into the side of the world. Unless you REALLY know the area don't try those tricks peoples. Mobs rarely care about where you're standing in the outside world, especially when they're casters and you didn't LoS them at the same time as getting to a "safe spot". Hers was not a safe spot and was actually a trap with no way out. (I know the shape of those buildings). Most structures will provide LoS but a few rare ones don't for example most trees don't provide LoS. I think those white pillars are one of those structures that doesn't provide LoS. Even if she did climb that hill and get running up there the mobs would've just walked up the hill. They don't care how steep a hill is. They care how the polygons meet. They normally have some kind of way to get to you in the outside world. That's my semi-detailed analysis as a long time classic player.
You don't quite understand the situation. He said to run because he thought it was more than just +2 getting aggro'd. When he realised it was only +2, he said stay, but by the time Emi understood that she walked into +1 and said she was low mana. Now it's a call of stay and maybe die or run and maybe die. All this is split second decisions and panic has set in. They definately forgot just how many more there are outside, and have to stick to running.
@@MrShimmerMannah ur boi miz is just bad at this game
Has to get a better sense of what actually constitutes danger. Staying and killed 2 more mobs with a pocket healer with low mana, that is a managable situation. Panicking and running through the whole thing pulling 10 guys is not lol also Asmon is right they should learn how to LOS
From 2 mobs left to 8+ because they wanted to run "i could tell" 😂
They could have easily dealt with the mobs before they started running.
That was just a panic death.
Miz going full lolcow at this point
The money he's making from playing like he has no clue is pretty legit too.
Miz ACTUALLY fundamentally doesn't understand anything about Wow, he has a childs understanding and it will stay that way until it's explained to him.
Might be a mental defect. I see a lot of children that are great at games.
I hate the most how both times he shows no empathy towards almost anything and not only that goes out of his way to blame her
I like that they keep playing together but they should being someone along with more wow experience.
Why though? To get carried instead of figuring out the game for themselves? To get less intense and funny moments to make content out of? To have the hardcore experience not be hard?
@@gweeb982 Imagine thinking that people need a coach to learn to play a video game. And at least Miz has already played WoW back in the day. And considering that they've died only like couple of times, they seem to be doing just fine.
The reason I think they should bring someone along is so that the experienced player could teach them and help them clutch up so they don't have to keep starting over.
@@John-w8p The point of hardcore WoW is the fact that you'll have to start over though. If you never start over, what's the difference between hc and normal classic?
I think there is two points I'm trying to make. I immensely respect Miz and Emi for going again after tough losses of chracters. Thats point 1 but I also think back to the Mok'gura tournament with what Soda said. There was never going to be a dark horse in that tournament because the only way you get to that level is by playing with top level players. Sharing information and collaborating to push each other to the top is the only way to get that good. Miz and Emi have been grinding 1-43 for months and they aren't learning any new skills by dying 2 hours after spending 24 hours leveling back to where they were. It's time for them to learn from other players. They took their lumps and paid their dues and they deserve to learn new skills from better players.
I like that Asmons first concern is the lost loot. Beautiful
this will never be fixed if you guys keep power leveling the fool.
Pot meet Kettle?
@@andresgonzalez5676 the hell does that mean?
@@blackyvertigothere is a metaphor that goes "pot calling the kettle black" no idea what it means though
@@blackyvertigoAsmon fans give asmon a S-hit ton of free stuff too in wow that's what I mean.
@@blackyvertigo its a saying used to convey that the criticisms a person is aiming at someone else could equally well apply to themselves.
That naga cave is on the island in Feralas, its really dangerous for most classes. I grinded for days there while leveling my rogue its a great spot, mobs have good drops, nice pickpockets and junkboxes for lockpicking, and respawn fast so you can just do laps around the cave. Many times I would have died without being able to Vanish. That's a death zone for warriors.
I really hate the bug where I have no mana and cant use abilities too. If only there was a fix.
Lmaoooo 13:37 asmon was so flabbergasted he channeled his inner shaggy
From two remaining caster nagas 20 seconds later they had the entire village and neighbouring tribe on them. 😂 Well, shit happens and we go again. 💪
Why did Miz tell her they needed to run? They were fine...
It is clear he thought the mob aggro'd more than it did, and when he realised he said to stay.
@@MrShimmerMan No he said "run", she said "are you sure?" and he said "yeah".
Then after that 6:08 he says "Actually wait, stay, stay." You won't hear it in this video because Asmon and Esfand is yelling.@@Chris-qh5tz
@@MrShimmerMan You're right but I think after Miz told her to run after she was unsure about it, she just made up her mind to run. I think if Miz knew what he was doing he would've 1. never told her to run or 2. been more adamant about her not running. Like if he said "No wait Emi! Just stay! It'll be worse if you run!" She might've stayed and they probably would've lived. He didn't it say it like that because he was also unsure. Like Asmon said, they need to have a baby sitter who knows what they're doing.
@@Chris-qh5tz yep, the mistakes added up.
They both just kept making bad decision after bad decision, but Emi panicking saying "Im out of mana" when she was at 40% and started running to collect more mobs was the nail in the coffin. IF there was a bug with her UI that caused her to freak out, so be it, but we'll never know. When Emi started heading for the exit Miz panicked and started collecting mobs like it was Pokemon.
Also, Miz wearing every piece of gear he could get off the AH regardless of whether it was good or not is hilarious. I guess streamers can afford to splurge on the AH thanks to donations from fans.
miz told her to run tho. she said "are you sure?" and he said yes.
As the healer she should be making the call to run or not. By this level you should have a good idea of what you can do with your mana. In this case 40% mana for 2 mobs is fine. You can always mana pot if needed or tell him to let you spirit tap the next mob for a bit more regen.
Isle of Dread cave:
- Hyper-respawn
- Claustrophobic space
- problematic add spells
Let's be honest if i do the quests, as soon i can turn in i hearthstone
Mizkif lied and Emi died.
I'd watch a raid with this guy in it, just to see when the first boss hits about 10% & he realizes execute causes a lot of threat.
HAHAHAHAHA
I can't wait for the day he gets 60 and these idiots let him raid with them, it's gonna be glorious. That's gonna be content for at least 5-10 videos from the same group of people lol all defending him saying... yeahhhh the raid wiped but it wasn't his fault! LOL
Emi trusted miz when he said to run. It’s 100% on miz
Who tf cares. It's two friends playing WoW
Miz thought the dynamite mob was going to pull a lot, and it only was 1 more siren, so 2 casters total, Emi by that time was already running and panicked when facing the new full health mob and her supposedly low mana, when Miz whispered to stop she panicked more. Lack of experience in RPGs, lack of problem solving experience in WoW, call it what you want, but her brain went into default mode, run/no mana, Miz was too slow to fix his mistake and the new mistake Emi was making, and compounded the problem by also running into more mobs and so on until they died.
It seemed like they weren't playing together, as if they were trying to survive separately.
biggest factors here imo as someone who has quite literally never played wow in their life, panic is #1 factor and #2 was the call to run... it wasn't necessarily a bad call in itself because he thought there was going to be 4 or more on them and shit was getting sketchy. But he realized I think and went to say something after he finished the 2 melee and saw the casters on the corner, and she kind of freaked out and was like "I DONT HAVE THIS SPELL" or w/e she was referring too and ran into the other mobs fully committing them too running... which completely doomed them. So I'll say this, miz was distracted and pulled too much/at a bad time, and he made bad call when he said to run so it was his mistakes that put them there... but honestly it was emi's mistakes that got them killed. She panicked way too hard once he said they needed to bail, she should have let him go first ahead of her or something idk exactly how it works but her running straight into agro screaming "I DONT HAVE..." is bad news bears. It's still his fault because he made the initial mistake and was "leading" the party and making the calls so its his responsibility, but you cant really blame him at the same time cause technically she was the one that got them killed. But that's just my unbiased opinion as someone who has A: never played WoW and B: no idea who either of them are other than hearing about them before
Hell I don't even watch asmongold.. but I somehow got stuck in a rabbit hole of his clips.... I blame the editors.
Miz played this like shit, but to be fair, Emi had like 3x the mana she needed to finish the business inside the cave.
As a warrior player I have to wonder where the hamstrings were :(
"no big deal" proceeds to delete the VOD.
The vod is up now… he just takes time to upload them
Is he trying to take the Hardcore Grim Reaper role from Kungen?
Miz is a genuine example of player who dumb enough not to understand how the game and mechanics works and who NOT wanna learn to understand them, but blames everyone around him. 10/10. I think he should try EvE Online next. This might be hilarious.
P.S. I laughed when disclaimer appeared, where Miz asked not to upload Asmons reaction.
Crazy how he uses asmongold’s face in his thumbnail but doesn’t want a reaction video uploaded by Asmongold’s channel lmao.
in his post death call with Asmon, asmon says maybe avoid caves. Misskif replies "i don't think the caves are a problem,". Bro just died in a cave lol
Compare the comments in Asmon's video vs Miz's. The answer is obvious as to why he wouldn't want this here.@@Sir_Billions
You must hate your own life to reply with such hate
@@articadeSaying that someone has to hate their live just because of a one negative comment is very hateful from you articade 😊
The last death was actually like haha funny. But this one just hurts inside...
Really makes you stop and appreciate that you're watching someone reacting to someone else reacting to someone recording themselves playing a 20-year-old game. Content!
Lazy content is the best type of content! 😊
They now have series how-to-die-in-classic 1000 times. Series has upcoming episode 3/1000. Episode 1: Ships are bad in Classic Episode 2: Caves are bad in Classic. Episode 3 will be announced later.
Mizkif and Emiru need to level with Asmon and Esfand, both for safety in numbers plus so they can get real time guidance.
Oh God not again, now there is no excuse, Miz just sucks.
wait you are telling me they were not pro wow players?? wtf
@@tony2pumps1 Its not about being a pro, Miz just doesn't respect the game enough to learn it. He's playing it with friends who love the game and taking half hearted measures in the name of content.
@@tony2pumps1 F-uck if I know I've never played it thankfully, I'm going by what Asmon and Esfand say.
Miz made the call, it's as simple as that.
That was fun. Looking forward to part 3! 😈
and part 4 and part 5, if he actually makes it to part 6 and/or ever gets to raid, that's gonna be some move theater level fucking content to see how many others die because of him too.
@@digitalkel83 he's rich. I'd just pay someone to level various mizzes up so it would just be like regular wow. its a wow butler. on another note, if you are reading this mizz, I humbly submit an application to this job.
16:28 he was reacting to the level 60 dying... even though he said "lets finish up and get out of here so we can react to it" thats why he pulled 2 mobs wasn't paying attention.. that's what he said anyways when they were talking about it
Looked totally deliberate to me. They really had no readon to panic at the start. Looked deliberate and the way he was tellin em to run was like he was whiteknighting.
The weirdness of the simps white knighting for Emi is unreal. It's legit so cringy. Just treat the woman like a normal human being, tell her she made some fuckin mistakes here and move on. They both made mistakes, they'll both learn, they'll both make it to 60 eventually.
Miz shouldn't keep messing with enemies that are higher level than him as a warrior to begin with.
Thats like half of the problem.
So lots of mistakes and unfortunate things happened here, obviously, but Emi's mistake is continuing to group with the guy that already got her killed once(and tried to blame it on her and the other group member). I feel bad for her, because this is likely due to pressure from this guild.
They’re friends dog I don’t think it’s pressure from the guild 😂 it’s dumb to group with him but we all have that friend we have to tolerate a bit
bro sthu they're friends ur taking wow too seriously
Jesus Christ "pressure from this guild" my dude it's a fucking game and she likes playing with him it ain't that serious.
@@woahmans no matter what the game is, if thats the personality of my friend i would kick him out of my life. EZ.
L take
No matter of my attitude to Emi, I think playing with Miz is like a death mark. Anyway, caves are always hard. Especially this one. I was fine in it playing a druid, but Felwood cave killed me on escort quest. Escort quests in caves sucks.
Thats like dying to quicksand but its a mud swamp with roots and vines but they just end up entangling themselves and dying slower.
Didn't Chance specifically told Miz not to go in to a cave? I remember Chance said, Cave bad, Red bad, Elite bad.
i made this quest yesterday as a rogue. Just grind through the mobs, kill them all, get exp, find a random mage buddy, party together, enter the cave, grind more, turn quest safely. Zero vanish, zero iceblock, kiling 1-2-3 mobs at one moment. No hurry, SAFU
i love how almost none of the comments heard miz correct his run call
If we didn't hear him correct it how could Emi have? Let's be real Miz made mistakes even before that point they should have have had to run, and in fact they didn't they could've stayed and killed remaining 2 in cave
@@Metaljacket420 you didn't hear it because there's esfand and asmon yelling over it.
Thing is they managed to kite 5+ mobs for so long. Can't keep my self from thinking how easily they could have just killed those two or even that 3rd mob they pulled initially.
These two are never making it to 60.
I'd call myself inexperienced when it comes to WoW, at best, but from how it looked to me, they just ran around in a panic and just aggro'd literally everything. The whole thing just felt absolutely stupid. Like is that all that basically happened?
Kinda. But unless you played the game you dont know how hard it can be, especially for unexperienced players. Panic happens to nearly everyone at some point, raid wipes show this really well usually. 1 person fucks up 1 mechanic and everyone starts running around like headless chicken. It allways looks stupid from the outside basically.
Going into a cave with some mobs being two levels over you and having shit gear. Doesn’t give you much room, like you can’t make any mistakes at all
and the one mistake you can't make is pulling when the healer has so little mana. i mean this is tank 101.
Mizkif is the kind of person that could take a gun, shoot a guy and then blame the bullet.
THIS FUCKING COMMENT WINS THE INTERNET
WELL I GUESS YOURE NOT EVEN USING THE AXES TO BEGIN WITH
WoW Cave 101: Never run, always stand your ground.
well when everything is given to you, you don't respect other peoples time and generosity.
I thought about that, imagine working a job and leveling alone without 10 people helping you farm and people giving you gold. it makes you allot more careful
Miz tried to play both the characters. Its his fault. If your guild leader tells you to do something you do it. She was told by miz to do something so she trusted the group leader and did it. Was 100% on him. Shit happens tho
actual skill issues, just stop powerlevelling the scrubs and make them learn
the tragedy here is the lionheart helm from the warrior's UI
I got my first HC toon, a druid, to 13. That's been my main since TBC. Then I tried mage and got to 4. That was a lesson in what "caves = graves" means.; level 4 is an especially dangerous level to be alone and have 3 mobs spawn on you in the middle of a cave. I then rerolled the same character and got to 18. Getting to 7 sounds like a walk in the park but it can't be guaranteed. Keep your valuables on that toon if you think so. Not a good idea.
Shit happens and you learn from it. HC sounds unbearably brutal, but much less so if you remember two things: everybody else goes through the same thing, and we get FREE server transfers--so you can continue leveling that character on a non-HC server. Defias Pillager and Skull Rock are not just servers, but communities of characters that have never died. But dying isn't supposed to be the end. You always go again. Almost everybody has gone again or is about to (or else they wouldn't be there). I recommend leveling alts simultaneously to soften the blow :)
Flight or fight works the same in wow, you just gotta know when to do either one. As someone who has died in HC a few times, one in being on level 45. Its absolutely demoralizing. You need a week break from it and just come back and get it. You live and learn and realize how careful you have to be.
Defensive stance? Disarm? Shield swap? Shield block? Shield wall? This dude should stop playing warrior, even thunderclap would have helped
What the fuck was that warrior doing, pulling more and more while priest had no mana.
Super mega awesome pro WoW player about their OOM healer: "I could tell something was wrong because they weren't using their spells!"
I died at lvl 7 and said F this! Playing on regular classic realm 😂
Everyone look at 10:55 top right Asmons screen, its a ghost.
That's one of the easiest caves in the game and the best in terms of exp (mobs are too low hp for their level) you just need to know this:
1. You need to know how to LoS casters. It's a very advanced technique where you hide behind a wall/rock and the mob runs towards you. Very complicated to execute.
2. There is only ONE single patrol in the entire cave that goes in and out the cave. The pathing is very hard to track, the mob goes inside the cave at a speed of 1-2mph aproximately and turns left into the corridor and then goes back outside. It's actually the one that get's aggroed in the video.
3. Pull mobs to you, even if you charge in.
This is what happens when you get mob tagged from lvl 1 a trillion times, you don't experience the game and you don't learn anything. The entire thing was avoidable if both had more experience on how to play the game in their own.
I don't understand why so many people in WoW HC (even somewhat experienced ones) do this thing where they keep moving and pulling more mobs, when it is clear they can deal with the ones already pulled.
They had one mob at 21%, one at 3% (the one that fled and came back) and two casters at 100% in a corner. They had that whole room for themselves. He could one-hit the 3%, pull the 21% to the two casters in that SAFE corner, get threat on the casters and Emi's 1400 mana would be enough for this because the healing would become less intense as soon there was only the 2 casters left.
Only run if you're unmistakably overwhelmed. Running away should be a low priority option, not the default reaction.
And yeah it was 100% his fault, not saying this to simp or anything. She never suggested running and she was positioning safe in the cleared space at all times. The warrior was the one who kept pulling more mobs, doing a LOT of unnecessary movement past them. He played like a 8 year-old who is playing this for the first time, getting all excited and running everywhere.
99% of the wipe is cuz miz called to run. You kill both adds and you hearth out. Theres just a wall of adds behind you to deal with
Having a team like this is my own personal Thorgast torment.
No. “We” didn’t get caught up in it, you weren’t paying attention to what was going on behind you. Speaking as a healer that does mostly PUGs, the biggest issue in WOW today is wannabe tanks that think every run is a speed run and never consider group comp and what s going on behind them.
It's all streamers dude. Don't take it so damn seriously lol
@@articade yeah. You’re right. But when I’ve been on the road for a month and I finally get home to play for awhile, I do tend to lose perspective.
Couple IRL doing stuff
i solo'd this as a 45 holy paladin, their respawn rate seemed super high. was there more ppl deeper in the save?
the only thing esfand is wrong about is when he says they both panicked. miz tells emi to run. she says are you sure? and miz says yea just run run. that's why they ran. miz made the bad call. it's 3 bad things that miz did. first pulling when emi was low, then pulling again immediately, then calling the run. he also ran poorly, so could be 4 things.
HIS FAULT FOR PULLING WHEN OOM, THE ANCIENT WARRIOR CURSE TAKES ANOTHER
If they finally do get it done it will be so much more fulfilling
I find it kind of insulting to Emiru when everyone treats her like an Egg (pun intended).
She has beaten all the Souls Games, she isn't new to Gaming, you don't have to treat her like a Child that needs to be taken care of.
Mizkif might have some responsibility for being more knowledgeable about WoW in general, but that doesn't mean she can't do no wrong either.
mizkif doesn't take responsibility for anything
They run from 2 Caster mobs while healer got over 1000 Mana. Wtf?? thats how they die???
"where are you?!" *is literally 10 feet away in line of sight
It was painful to watch and I felt their pain. 😢
It's funny that Asmon watching death compilations is just he having pain or laughing all the time. But when it's one of his friends it's a whole scandal full of investigations.
Favortism at it's finest. Its pretty prominet in the youtube space. You get use to it.
Thats what happenes if you give someone who cant feed themselves a lifetime fish suppky instead of teaching them how to catch em themselves
*Asmon criticizing retail players for using addons.*
Em: all my addons turned off.
*Asmon ignores the fact she needs addons to play classic*
If your deep in a cave STAND YOUR GROUND AND FIGHT!!
The real tragedy is the Miz viewer who got caught crying by his mother. I feel so sorry for her😔
Asmon edited the comment. That viewer also said that they were flipping furniture in the living room and pissing themselves. But asmon removed that clear meme from the comment and presented it as a serious one.
@RadialSeeker113 the person who said it isn't connected to it, so no harm done. It's just funny.