You guys would be surprised how many people will watch beyond 55 minutes. Most of the time we are doing other things while it’s playing but we’re trying to soak in as much as we can to improve. You guys should 100% do this more often and full hour or longer is never a bad thing!
We need more of this. A discussion on current archery topics. I've been wanting this for a while, and no other archery channel really offers this. A sit-down, long format discussion with 2 or more guys. Something to listen to like a podcast style. Keep it going! Really agree and enjoyed your conversations, and im glad this was on my home page and subscribed. 👍
New shooter, 2 mo., maybe 2000 arrows from racing bike background. I'm underwhelmed with the quality and engineering in these bows. I could buy a nice used race Enduro that shreds for the price of a nice 3d bow. Can't justify that for, honestly an unremarkable instrument. But I love to shoot EVERY day and can't learn enough so I suppose it's used bows for me
Most honest conversation I’ve seen online about the archery community, I’ve seen a long time. Most guys won’t even speak about some of the things you guys covered. Y’all just got a new subscriber. 👊
Great chat guys. I’ve been around this game/sport for more decades than I’d like to admit and I’ve been to at least an equal number of “pro shops”. In my humble opinion, you guys are top of the top - across the country! I love your passion for the customer and willingness to help anyone with an interest in any aspect of the archery. Keep it up and wishing you all the best for the new shop.
Amazing conversation and very sorely needed. Been shooting 30yrs and the sport needs this conversation. People are still dumb founded that I started and still stick with shooting my compounds via 2 fingers NO Release. And consistently! For 30yrs just 2 fingers at a 28inch draw at 55lbs. Always kept it the same no matter the bow. Consistency and Practice/repetition is the key!
I needed to hear this. Find a method that works, then find a setup that works for your method. I’ve been over consuming archery content from multiple sources and it’s causing inconsistencies. I suppose it’s like trying to follow multiple recipes to bake one thing. All the ingredients have to work together for the best outcome. Thanks for the content and please keep it up!
This is one of the best videos/ conversations I’ve watched. Truly thanks for sharing. It’s great to see local guys/ shop On here expressing things that matter. I’ve been a big fan of your content and shop. Love to see A&J archery in the comments Nate’s got some great stuff as well. Thanks for being real and transparent. You guys and Jeff are the best I’ve dealt with. Punk and garret asyerman from sportsman’s refuge are top notch as well. That was my got to, hang out in college right out side of Morgantown. Thanks again for the video and engaging with the avg folks
So true ! My experience , and I was one of them, is that people have bows and arrows to go hunting and they have no idea , nor are they interested to know that their bow and arrow setup is tuned to ethically hunt deer or any other animal . "I have a bow and some arrows and it is sighted in, lets go". Your labor of love for archery can be so frustrating , but hang in there be patient . You are the teacher ! Maybe every 3-6 months send out an email to your customers , "Hey how are you doing ? Have you been shooting your bow ? Do you have any issues or question ? Give us a call.
There is not an ounce of lies in this. Great video People don't realize how hard and how much time you have to spend to actually be good. It's rarely the equipments fault (as long as everything is set up correctly)
Appreciate you guys being honest and speaking the hard truths. I watched the entire video, and I agree with a lot of what you guys said. I think if more shops put out content or shared information and knowledge the sport would grow. Like you said not all archery shops are created equal and the reason so many people try to copy other people they watch on RUclips is because they are trying to learn.
I think part of the issue is the amount of information you can get right here is like trying to grab a drink out of a fire hydrant in stead of a fountain. Agreed, Thought: you spent this much on a bow, ie add up the flagship prices, and you constantly hear on this platform, guys i'm not this good, that is how accurate this bow is and I think a lot of your new archers, who is watching videos online, and think it is going to shoot like a rifle rigged out with a tac driving precision. They think the bow will do that, and people think they thier bow should shoot the same. There is too many variables and time to practice being the most overlooked not to mention, like you mentioned, if they are practicing with bad form, it wont get better in time. I think you hit the nail on the head, the Highest level, and people purchasing the flagship bow, is purchasing the highest level of bows, but they skillset to see the differnce is not there. You made a valid point on the broken bows as well. I am glad to hear you say that, Care is a huge problem as well. Since it was mentioned, the Bass Pro in OKC has a great person in the archery department who will get. you set up correctly and the "archery shop" good luck. So with that said, if you are in an area and your are new, search out another hunter, archer etc in your area, will know these differences like I just mentioned. Keep up the passion you guys have, I wish we had a shop like yours in our area., it is one of the biggest lacking issues or problems in archery in my mind, lack of interest. New bike watts, hahah, Love it, I love mountain bikes as well, go fasters.. hahha I agree the goals and effort is true way to lead to frustration along with not "knowing" your equipment. hahha, I look pretty good hahha, me to brother. Well said on the fundamentals and same with photography, learn the rules of photography, then you can learn what rules to break and know why etc. well said. I do have a friend who like the girl you mentioned, his is the opposite of hers, he is about a 31 inch draw and the older bow is set up around 27 inch and being an older bow, it will never fir him and he may never find the old parts that may potentially even get it close. now he is get a "good buy" like a 120 bucks or something, but it will still never fit him so it wouldn't matter how cheap he got it. I wont iie guys, I have a ton of stuff I need to do this morning, however, there is enough great topic stuff in this video, that I have watched the whole thing. Great job. Thanks for taking the time to make this video and I am well aware of the starting it 12 times part, something always need tweaking. good job on this one and thanks for giving it so many tries to make it happen. Keep up the great work and I hope you all have a blessed weekend. dale
The first time I shot a bow, I took my kids with me to a range and we got a lesson to know what to do, how to do it and it became a large passion of mine. After about a month or so I bought my first bow at a pawn shop. It was about 14 years old, and wasn't the most accurate but it got me to feel comfortable with shooting. Now I have a 15 yard range set up in my basement where I shoot most of the time because I don't always have time to go to the range.
great video and about the best advice and reasoning stated in the last 4 yrs. You can t buy a $700 sight and $400 arrows and expect perfect shots, you cant buy that without the correct practice mission.
Great video and advice. Here's a point, and you mentioned it, I've dealt with it, the shop wants $80 about hour to work on my bow. That doesn't mean you paying $80, if it takes 10-15 minutes to set a peep it doesn't cost $80. I think shops would be better off with cost associated with tying in peep, seting your draw length, ect. Verese it's$80 an hour. The message is different. Great video, truth spoken , and all would be better listening to this video.
Pro Shop is 1st reason if someone with be back in or not. You can do everything right but if they are not happy. I was told a bow setup it a 5 part system and this was very spot on. This is where the budget gets messed up 1 Bow with sight and rest RTH 2 Release 3 Arrows 4 Case 5 Target
I’m going to start by saying I’m not in the USA. But that being said I wanted to chime in on the discussion based on my viewpoint: I get where you’re coming from-form and consistency are key-but I think there’s a serious oversight in this discussion. A poorly set-up bow isn’t just an inconvenience; it actively teaches bad habits. If my equipment is fighting me, I’m going to develop compensatory techniques that mask the real issues, and by the time someone points it out (if they ever do), I’ll have built up muscle memory around the wrong movements. That’s a much harder problem to fix than spending some time ensuring my bow is at least reasonably tuned from the start. This is even more important for people like me who have autism. We often rely on structured learning and need to know that the problem is us before we can start fixing it. If my arrows are consistently going low left, I need to be confident that it’s my release or grip and not just a misaligned rest or a bad nocking point. Otherwise, I’ll be wasting months trying to correct something that was never my fault to begin with. On top of that, archery in the UK isn’t as accessible as it is in the US. Bowhunting is illegal here, so the sport has a much smaller footprint. That means fewer clubs, fewer well-stocked shops, and far fewer experienced coaches. Many of us struggle to even find a range, let alone get meaningful one-on-one coaching. Most of our coaches are volunteers who have limited time to work with beginners, and they understandably want to enjoy shooting themselves too. That means a lot of us are self-taught, relying on RUclips and online resources rather than structured, in-person guidance. The issue is compounded by the fact that most of us in the UK don’t have the land to shoot at home, so we’re entirely dependent on club access. And most clubs only open once or twice a week, often in a sports hall where you’re limited to 20 yards at best. This means progression is slow, and it’s even harder to work on things like tuning or sight adjustments when you don’t have consistent access to shoot at proper distances. Compare that to the US, where many archers can practice in their back gardens daily, and it’s clear we’re not even working with the same opportunities. Even if you do find a club with a range, you’ll often be crammed in just a few inches from the next archer, which makes it harder to get quality instruction. Meanwhile, the closest archery shops are often hours away, with limited stock and inconsistent availability-if you can even get hold of them on the phone before making the trip. This all creates a frustrating cycle where new archers are expected to improve their form, but they don’t have the access to coaching or the properly fitted equipment to do so. The early stages of learning any sport are crucial. That’s when people are most passionate, most eager to improve, and most vulnerable to quitting if they hit too many barriers. If those first experiences feel chaotic, isolating, or disorganised, it kills motivation fast. The UK archery scene needs more clubs, more ranges, more shops, and-most importantly-structured progression plans that reward people for improving in clear, measurable ways. Without that, we risk losing new archers before they even get the chance to develop good form in the first place.
Great video. You also have to be honest with yourself. I've been asked if I group tune, my answer is always "I'm not good enough to even think about it". I like to be able to say "not sure where that hit, but it was a good shot!"
Great content guys. The thing I see (in myself as well at times), are archers who want the McDonalds effect. Order it and eat it in 5 minutes! It takes time and consistency to develop good habits and see improvement. Whatever Joe teaches me in an hour, takes me weeks of regular practice on my range to make it a part of my shot (cuz what he usually has told me has been gold). We have a mutual friend who is exactly the person Luke describes at 33:33. It takes time, commitment, and consistency to make good shots and achieve realistic goals as you guys said. Our culture isn't really geared to that mindset IMO.
Just bought my first compound bow. Bowtech SS34. Didn't go crazy with everything at first. Good rest and site and ok arrows. After 2 weeks of shooting I decided on a lens kit. Only after I felt I would know that it would for sure make a difference. Not going to get any stabilizers for a while. Need to continue working on my draw and getting to the point that when I add something it will make a difference. I felt taking those steps is much more fun in seeing my progression. If I bought everything right away that feeling of accomplishments wouldn't be there. Lucky that the shop I bought from have an enjoyable atmosphere with people that are there to enjoy the sport.
I like the rant boys🙏 I think the biggest issues in archery is way overpriced bows and accessories. Hoyt $2.1k for RX9U. Mathews sight for $700? Rest $300 and release $200+ and the people that keep buying them. If we as a collective(and there isn’t to many of us) boycott some of these clearly overpriced goods they’ll stop charging so much. It feels like the archery manufactures are just trying to squeeze every dollar out of you vs trying to actually keep people brand loyal.
They don’t paper tune when you ask them to. I feel like whenever I go to a shop in CT they downplay all the tweeting. It’s disheartening. I’ve been shooting for 30 years. It’s sad. When I travel out of state I see what other shops do and I’m like CT has to step up there game. Paper tuning is a must.
😂 I was always a bow hunter/tinkerer. Got my buddy into it. Now I have 2 flagships and a whole bow shop in my garage. Lol. Now, we're both the guys that don't want our bows setup, so it's right.
Wish you guys were there in New Orleans LA! We have one Proshop and the guy is a pure jerk. We have no place to shoot, no ranges & no 3D. I'd have to travel 2 hours to Baton Rouge to find a better shop, ranges & leagues. I'm trying to get back into archery after 20 years and am finding it difficult to do it. What makes it worse is I'm left-handed. We need a level of Proshop & techs who care about archery down here. Wishing y'all the best. 💯🎯
Do you guys offer a free class to people when you sell them a bow? I’ve helped a lot of new shooters and give them a good head start. I know in my area the closest bow shop is an hour and a half so there is no one to teach these guys and they just do what they can to figure it out
We don't offer a free lesson technically. But if you are a new shooter we spend enough time with you to equal more than most coaches basic lesson. We put you on shot trainer, show a proper grip, teach you an anchor. And educate you on how to operate your sight etc.
I think you need to bareshaft your arrows after your bow is tuned. If you only shoot inside 40 yards that's fine, the nocks, the spine align, different point weight, different vanes, all that matters once you get over 40 yards. You need to get serious not just fling arrows because the bow shop said it was straight. Now if you are new to bow shooting than yeah but if you have been around for years, get serious then and do it right.
Food for thought… if you are selling a flagship premium setup to a complete newbie and not informing them of do’s and don’t and the necessary knowledge a new shooter needs… then bad on you.
Prices going through the roof and performance staying stagnant... A $200 internet crossbow can perform better than a $2000 bow... Proshops charging hundreds extra on top of companies charging extra for the same thing with a slight modification ( not hating on proshops, gotta stay in business ) or just not having a proshop anywhere nearby and can save hundreds online, it sucks cuz I love archery but I know I will never have a Matthews or a Hoyt with some uv arrows
Biggest issue is your guys aren’t in the new building. lol. For a lot of us only in once or twice, isn’t comes down to time. I can step out on my deck when I have 5 minutes, and can let 3 or 4 arrows fly. What Cam said about the gentleman who didn’t know how to sight, it might have been he couldn’t find a good RUclips to show him.
only thing I use a pro shop for is to buy my bow and any warranty if needed I have a pro shop in my man cave. no shop will set my bow up as good or care as much as me. plus all the pro shops around me suck and the folk working on the bows should be no where near a bow and have zero knowledge
his short draw length had shit all to do with Troy or the ranch Fairy Troy does not help people shoot better he helps them pick better killing sticks. and sry but a heavy arrow does do better at putting 2 holes in a critter
You guys would be surprised how many people will watch beyond 55 minutes. Most of the time we are doing other things while it’s playing but we’re trying to soak in as much as we can to improve. You guys should 100% do this more often and full hour or longer is never a bad thing!
Was just thinking about you guys just the other day! Good to see you back and keep preaching this!
Thanks Nate! Great job at Lancaster. You are a shooter!
I don’t know how this got into my feed, but man, I could listen to y’all talk all day on this topic. Great information and insight. Thank you guys.
We need more of this. A discussion on current archery topics. I've been wanting this for a while, and no other archery channel really offers this. A sit-down, long format discussion with 2 or more guys. Something to listen to like a podcast style. Keep it going! Really agree and enjoyed your conversations, and im glad this was on my home page and subscribed. 👍
The cost is a huge factor in target archery. 2k bows and $700 for top tier sight is ridiculous. The manufacturers take archers for granted.
New shooter, 2 mo., maybe 2000 arrows from racing bike background. I'm underwhelmed with the quality and engineering in these bows. I could buy a nice used race Enduro that shreds for the price of a nice 3d bow. Can't justify that for, honestly an unremarkable instrument. But I love to shoot EVERY day and can't learn enough so I suppose it's used bows for me
Or.... don't buy them?
Most honest conversation I’ve seen online about the archery community, I’ve seen a long time. Most guys won’t even speak about some of the things you guys covered. Y’all just got a new subscriber. 👊
Hopefully many more successful years to come, love this shop!!
Great chat guys. I’ve been around this game/sport for more decades than I’d like to admit and I’ve been to at least an equal number of “pro shops”. In my humble opinion, you guys are top of the top - across the country! I love your passion for the customer and willingness to help anyone with an interest in any aspect of the archery.
Keep it up and wishing you all the best for the new shop.
Great talk, much appreciate it. Thank you guys for takin the time to share!🤘🏼
Amazing conversation and very sorely needed. Been shooting 30yrs and the sport needs this conversation. People are still dumb founded that I started and still stick with shooting my compounds via 2 fingers NO Release. And consistently! For 30yrs just 2 fingers at a 28inch draw at 55lbs. Always kept it the same no matter the bow. Consistency and Practice/repetition is the key!
I needed to hear this. Find a method that works, then find a setup that works for your method. I’ve been over consuming archery content from multiple sources and it’s causing inconsistencies. I suppose it’s like trying to follow multiple recipes to bake one thing. All the ingredients have to work together for the best outcome. Thanks for the content and please keep it up!
Great content!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I’m happy to see a new video here, I’ve been waiting for this.
This is one of the best videos/ conversations I’ve watched. Truly thanks for sharing. It’s great to see local guys/ shop On here expressing things that matter. I’ve been a big fan of your content and shop. Love to see A&J archery in the comments Nate’s got some great stuff as well. Thanks for being real and transparent. You guys and Jeff are the best I’ve dealt with. Punk and garret asyerman from sportsman’s refuge are top notch as well. That was my got to, hang out in college right out side of Morgantown. Thanks again for the video and engaging with the avg folks
So true !
My experience , and I was one of them, is that people have bows and arrows to go hunting and they have no idea , nor are they interested to know that their bow and arrow setup
is tuned to ethically hunt deer or any other animal . "I have a bow and some arrows and it is sighted in, lets go".
Your labor of love for archery can be so frustrating , but hang in there be patient . You are the teacher !
Maybe every 3-6 months send out an email to your customers , "Hey how are you doing ? Have you been shooting your bow ? Do you have any issues or question ? Give us a call.
Excellent! Your insight into the basics/reality of Archery are “Spot-On”!!! Well said!
There is not an ounce of lies in this. Great video
People don't realize how hard and how much time you have to spend to actually be good. It's rarely the equipments fault (as long as everything is set up correctly)
Appreciate you guys being honest and speaking the hard truths. I watched the entire video, and I agree with a lot of what you guys said. I think if more shops put out content or shared information and knowledge the sport would grow. Like you said not all archery shops are created equal and the reason so many people try to copy other people they watch on RUclips is because they are trying to learn.
I get frustrated with the quality of the shops in terms of setup
It’s hard to find a shop with a good bow tech
I think part of the issue is the amount of information you can get right here is like trying to grab a drink out of a fire hydrant in stead of a fountain.
Agreed, Thought: you spent this much on a bow, ie add up the flagship prices, and you constantly hear on this platform, guys i'm not this good, that is how accurate this bow is and I think a lot of your new archers, who is watching videos online, and think it is going to shoot like a rifle rigged out with a tac driving precision. They think the bow will do that, and people think they thier bow should shoot the same. There is too many variables and time to practice being the most overlooked not to mention, like you mentioned, if they are practicing with bad form, it wont get better in time. I think you hit the nail on the head, the Highest level, and people purchasing the flagship bow, is purchasing the highest level of bows, but they skillset to see the differnce is not there. You made a valid point on the broken bows as well.
I am glad to hear you say that, Care is a huge problem as well. Since it was mentioned, the Bass Pro in OKC has a great person in the archery department who will get. you set up correctly and the "archery shop" good luck. So with that said, if you are in an area and your are new, search out another hunter, archer etc in your area, will know these differences like I just mentioned. Keep up the passion you guys have, I wish we had a shop like yours in our area., it is one of the biggest lacking issues or problems in archery in my mind, lack of interest. New bike watts, hahah, Love it, I love mountain bikes as well, go fasters.. hahha
I agree the goals and effort is true way to lead to frustration along with not "knowing" your equipment.
hahha, I look pretty good hahha, me to brother.
Well said on the fundamentals and same with photography, learn the rules of photography, then you can learn what rules to break and know why etc. well said.
I do have a friend who like the girl you mentioned, his is the opposite of hers, he is about a 31 inch draw and the older bow is set up around 27 inch and being an older bow, it will never fir him and he may never find the old parts that may potentially even get it close. now he is get a "good buy" like a 120 bucks or something, but it will still never fit him so it wouldn't matter how cheap he got it. I wont iie guys, I have a ton of stuff I need to do this morning, however, there is enough great topic stuff in this video, that I have watched the whole thing. Great job. Thanks for taking the time to make this video and I am well aware of the starting it 12 times part, something always need tweaking. good job on this one and thanks for giving it so many tries to make it happen.
Keep up the great work and I hope you all have a blessed weekend.
dale
Thank you for the conversation. We need more of your content . Thanks guys
The first time I shot a bow, I took my kids with me to a range and we got a lesson to know what to do, how to do it and it became a large passion of mine.
After about a month or so I bought my first bow at a pawn shop. It was about 14 years old, and wasn't the most accurate but it got me to feel comfortable with shooting.
Now I have a 15 yard range set up in my basement where I shoot most of the time because I don't always have time to go to the range.
You get what you put in!
great video and about the best advice and reasoning stated in the last 4 yrs. You can t buy a $700 sight and $400 arrows and expect perfect shots, you cant buy that without the correct practice mission.
Sensible discussion, lot to take away... Know thy self as an archer, sports person ❤
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Great video and advice. Here's a point, and you mentioned it, I've dealt with it, the shop wants $80 about hour to work on my bow. That doesn't mean you paying $80, if it takes 10-15 minutes to set a peep it doesn't cost $80. I think shops would be better off with cost associated with tying in peep, seting your draw length, ect. Verese it's$80 an hour. The message is different. Great video, truth spoken , and all would be better listening to this video.
Pro Shop is 1st reason if someone with be back in or not. You can do everything right but if they are not happy.
I was told a bow setup it a 5 part system and this was very spot on. This is where the budget gets messed up
1 Bow with sight and rest RTH
2 Release
3 Arrows
4 Case
5 Target
I’m going to start by saying I’m not in the USA. But that being said I wanted to chime in on the discussion based on my viewpoint:
I get where you’re coming from-form and consistency are key-but I think there’s a serious oversight in this discussion. A poorly set-up bow isn’t just an inconvenience; it actively teaches bad habits. If my equipment is fighting me, I’m going to develop compensatory techniques that mask the real issues, and by the time someone points it out (if they ever do), I’ll have built up muscle memory around the wrong movements. That’s a much harder problem to fix than spending some time ensuring my bow is at least reasonably tuned from the start.
This is even more important for people like me who have autism. We often rely on structured learning and need to know that the problem is us before we can start fixing it. If my arrows are consistently going low left, I need to be confident that it’s my release or grip and not just a misaligned rest or a bad nocking point. Otherwise, I’ll be wasting months trying to correct something that was never my fault to begin with.
On top of that, archery in the UK isn’t as accessible as it is in the US. Bowhunting is illegal here, so the sport has a much smaller footprint. That means fewer clubs, fewer well-stocked shops, and far fewer experienced coaches. Many of us struggle to even find a range, let alone get meaningful one-on-one coaching. Most of our coaches are volunteers who have limited time to work with beginners, and they understandably want to enjoy shooting themselves too. That means a lot of us are self-taught, relying on RUclips and online resources rather than structured, in-person guidance.
The issue is compounded by the fact that most of us in the UK don’t have the land to shoot at home, so we’re entirely dependent on club access. And most clubs only open once or twice a week, often in a sports hall where you’re limited to 20 yards at best. This means progression is slow, and it’s even harder to work on things like tuning or sight adjustments when you don’t have consistent access to shoot at proper distances. Compare that to the US, where many archers can practice in their back gardens daily, and it’s clear we’re not even working with the same opportunities.
Even if you do find a club with a range, you’ll often be crammed in just a few inches from the next archer, which makes it harder to get quality instruction. Meanwhile, the closest archery shops are often hours away, with limited stock and inconsistent availability-if you can even get hold of them on the phone before making the trip. This all creates a frustrating cycle where new archers are expected to improve their form, but they don’t have the access to coaching or the properly fitted equipment to do so.
The early stages of learning any sport are crucial. That’s when people are most passionate, most eager to improve, and most vulnerable to quitting if they hit too many barriers. If those first experiences feel chaotic, isolating, or disorganised, it kills motivation fast. The UK archery scene needs more clubs, more ranges, more shops, and-most importantly-structured progression plans that reward people for improving in clear, measurable ways. Without that, we risk losing new archers before they even get the chance to develop good form in the first place.
Loving it! I appreciate your honesty.
Looking forward to more episodes. Podcasts are always in my ear.
Great video. You also have to be honest with yourself. I've been asked if I group tune, my answer is always "I'm not good enough to even think about it". I like to be able to say "not sure where that hit, but it was a good shot!"
Everybody talks about the bow no one talks about the arrows.
I agree that self motivation wanting to put the work in is very important, very good discussion guys!
Great content guys. The thing I see (in myself as well at times), are archers who want the McDonalds effect. Order it and eat it in 5 minutes! It takes time and consistency to develop good habits and see improvement. Whatever Joe teaches me in an hour, takes me weeks of regular practice on my range to make it a part of my shot (cuz what he usually has told me has been gold). We have a mutual friend who is exactly the person Luke describes at 33:33. It takes time, commitment, and consistency to make good shots and achieve realistic goals as you guys said. Our culture isn't really geared to that mindset IMO.
Thanks for the kind words.
Love the conversation! Keep the content coming! Hope to see y’all at a TAC this year
Great info guys. I’m fortunate to be able to shoot with Joe a few times each year. He passes on information to help me improve every time.
Thanks Ronnie. It’s always a good time to shoot with you. I’m sure I’ll see you this summer at some shoots. Hope all is well.
Just bought my first compound bow. Bowtech SS34. Didn't go crazy with everything at first. Good rest and site and ok arrows. After 2 weeks of shooting I decided on a lens kit. Only after I felt I would know that it would for sure make a difference. Not going to get any stabilizers for a while. Need to continue working on my draw and getting to the point that when I add something it will make a difference. I felt taking those steps is much more fun in seeing my progression. If I bought everything right away that feeling of accomplishments wouldn't be there. Lucky that the shop I bought from have an enjoyable atmosphere with people that are there to enjoy the sport.
I like the rant boys🙏 I think the biggest issues in archery is way overpriced bows and accessories. Hoyt $2.1k for RX9U. Mathews sight for $700? Rest $300 and release $200+ and the people that keep buying them. If we as a collective(and there isn’t to many of us) boycott some of these clearly overpriced goods they’ll stop charging so much. It feels like the archery manufactures are just trying to squeeze every dollar out of you vs trying to actually keep people brand loyal.
They don’t paper tune when you ask them to. I feel like whenever I go to a shop in CT they downplay all the tweeting. It’s disheartening. I’ve been shooting for 30 years. It’s sad. When I travel out of state I see what other shops do and I’m like CT has to step up there game. Paper tuning is a must.
😂 I was always a bow hunter/tinkerer. Got my buddy into it. Now I have 2 flagships and a whole bow shop in my garage. Lol. Now, we're both the guys that don't want our bows setup, so it's right.
Wish you guys were there in New Orleans LA! We have one Proshop and the guy is a pure jerk. We have no place to shoot, no ranges & no 3D. I'd have to travel 2 hours to Baton Rouge to find a better shop, ranges & leagues. I'm trying to get back into archery after 20 years and am finding it difficult to do it. What makes it worse is I'm left-handed. We need a level of Proshop & techs who care about archery down here. Wishing y'all the best. 💯🎯
I shoot in mississippi league that starts this weekend. One of our furthest shoots towards you is Magnolia,MS which is basically McComb.
Darton and Pse make great bows that change from left or right , both shoot thru risers
Still wish you guys were just a bit closer! Great group of people!
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I hate bow reviews where the guy just goes to The local shop slaps a couple of arrows down range and gives his review, that's vague and inaccurate
That was a good one. I also look good when I shoot 😎
Do you guys offer a free class to people when you sell them a bow? I’ve helped a lot of new shooters and give them a good head start. I know in my area the closest bow shop is an hour and a half so there is no one to teach these guys and they just do what they can to figure it out
We don't offer a free lesson technically. But if you are a new shooter we spend enough time with you to equal more than most coaches basic lesson. We put you on shot trainer, show a proper grip, teach you an anchor. And educate you on how to operate your sight etc.
I think you need to bareshaft your arrows after your bow is tuned. If you only shoot inside 40 yards that's fine, the nocks, the spine align, different point weight, different vanes, all that matters once you get over 40 yards. You need to get serious not just fling arrows because the bow shop said it was straight. Now if you are new to bow shooting than yeah but if you have been around for years, get serious then and do it right.
The real problem with bows is performance has not tracked with price. Crossbows, i would argue, have done a better job.
Great important conversation that opens the archery shooter mind!
Your tuna bowyou fine to your arrows doesn’t matter how much you spend on a bow Arrows are more important than the bow.
Food for thought… if you are selling a flagship premium setup to a complete newbie and not informing them of do’s and don’t and the necessary knowledge a new shooter needs… then bad on you.
Prices going through the roof and performance staying stagnant... A $200 internet crossbow can perform better than a $2000 bow... Proshops charging hundreds extra on top of companies charging extra for the same thing with a slight modification ( not hating on proshops, gotta stay in business ) or just not having a proshop anywhere nearby and can save hundreds online, it sucks cuz I love archery but I know I will never have a Matthews or a Hoyt with some uv arrows
Why would you not work with the customer and use bare shaft shooting? I shoot bare shafts out to 15 yards
*CRMs?*
How many stores _call their customers post-purchase?..._
(None).
That is an excellent idea. Thank you for the input.
I have had shops that didn’t even respond to emails after the fact.
Biggest issue is your guys aren’t in the new building. lol. For a lot of us only in once or twice, isn’t comes down to time. I can step out on my deck when I have 5 minutes, and can let 3 or 4 arrows fly. What Cam said about the gentleman who didn’t know how to sight, it might have been he couldn’t find a good RUclips to show him.
Everything you guys said was great, but you don’t explain what your shot means a lot of these newer people don’t understand what you’re talking about
Price
only thing I use a pro shop for is to buy my bow and any warranty if needed I have a pro shop in my man cave. no shop will set my bow up as good or care as much as me. plus all the pro shops around me suck and the folk working on the bows should be no where near a bow and have zero knowledge
his short draw length had shit all to do with Troy or the ranch Fairy Troy does not help people shoot better he helps them pick better killing sticks. and sry but a heavy arrow does do better at putting 2 holes in a critter
You missed the point.
FIRST
You guys are boring
Well done fella's