I heard a nice anekdote about working fast and charging full price: A woman entered a pottery shop, and saw the man working on some cups or vases. He made one in nearly 5 minutes. The woman asked how much he charges for that. He replied 40 dollar. The woman was astounded, 40 dollar for only 5 minutes of work? Yes the man replied, 5 minutes work and 40 years of experience..
Musicians get this kind of BS all the time. "It's only a two-hour gig, why should I pay several hundred dollars?" It's not just two hours of playing, it's the weeks/months/years of rehearsals, the cost of instruments, equipment, transport to and from the gig, insurance, hotels rooms, etc. Goes for any kind of artist I suppose...
I do want to do a Larch Forest. Thank you for doing this video. Your friend is extremely lucky to have this gift and here you have helped to maintain it. That is valuable as well
I think whats important is that a lot of novices are afraid to prune and cut and "work" trees. And like you said, to change it. A lot of us have trees but are afraid of changing it because we might make it worse. But with change we learn. And with change, a mediocre tree can become a great tree. Such is life also.. Thank you so much for the insight. I learn a lot about the art of Bonsai from you but also take life lessons out of every video. I hope to visit you one day.
That client that griped about your charge does not appreciate the mastery they are paying for. You would do yourself a service by NOT working for them ✌🏽 I; like so many others here; appreciate your work, energy, enthusiasm and experience and thank you for sharing it all with us 🥰
Clearly, you are an expert! Love to see your quick but meticulous work. It is so true what you say, you should be paid for your expertise, not for time! One would also not like to pay someone who just starts in the field per hour if it takes him 5 times longer...
I make handmade quits and I’ve had people tell me they can get one cheaper at Walmart. People want quality for nothing. I have no doubt your time is worth every penny. ☺️
I enjoy watching your videos you’re Truly a master, I think I watched half of them in a 2 week span. I’ve always been interested in horticulture and growing plants. I’ve been growing all types of peppers for hot sauce since 24 years old along with other herbs, Nectarine Trees and Blackberry/Blueberry bushes. I have a Japanese maple coral bark and a Sango Kaku I’ve purchased that I want to turn into a large bonsai like in one of your videos. Also a white Japanese pine bonsai, now that I’m 29 years old I want to make a lifetime hobby or even a side career out of it hell maybe a career running a nursery. There’s something about the aesthetics your garden has that I greatly admire with the maples and pines growing around the landscape. Just a fan from Pennsylvania. I’d definitely visit some day.
Another enjoyable video. I'm smarting a bit at the moment as my Kyohime maple was crushed in the wind by a tomato plant. Hey ho; another few years to rebuild the branches!
I received a Japanese Pepper from you this week, thank you for the fast delivery! It was very well packaged too. I found your shop through your videos on Maple trees, you've been a great help so far with these videos - I'm quite new to Bonsai and already addicted :) Thank you Peter & team!
That is very fast and accurate . The person arguing about time of work being proportional to the amount of fees must have viewed it from his or her own context .It happens with some people , forgive and forget uncle Peter . Maybe It will take some time for the person to realise .
Now I see how you cut your finger some time back, cutting so fast and close to your other hand 😅 surprised it doesn’t happen more often but you are a pro that’s for sure!
I like the idea of changing the "front" of the group, But would you consider having the weak tree you thought to remove and leave it to die and add interest that way?
Hello Mr.Chan, You have so much trees and I have a question unrelated to this video, how do you protect your trees from fungal problems? (powdery mildew, etc.). thank you. Elvis from Croatia
Fortunately we don't get much disease - This Summer has been very hot and that encourages Mildew. But apart from that we dont get much disease. In Spring we have slight problems with aphids.
Very natural looking forest. May I suggest that instead of doing a quick tidy up you spend that time instructing your friend how to profile prune. That would save you 8 minutes 😉. Thanks
Do you have any advice for using true firs as bonsai? They seem to be a fairly rare subject and as such it's rather difficult to find information on how to care for and shape them. I have a yamadori noble fir which I collected in early spring (well before it came out of dormancy), the tree is doing well. I believe it has quite a lot of potential, it's taper is fantastic and it has an almost perfect shape for a clinging to rock style (since it was indeed clinging to rocks). I do not plan on working the tree for quite some time but when I do I'm uncertain where to begin. I also have a mountain hemlock specimen which is a perfect candidate for literati style (or something similar) but again finding information on how to care for the tree is quite difficult.
I don’t like when people underpay people who work fast They’re not just paying for your time; they’re paying for the years of experience it took for you to master your art
If clients watched your videos, they could do it themselves and pay nothing? :) This was so easy to ID what had to be removed!! But the tall old tree on the left... I can see removing that and making the forest more of a square (or oval) than rectangle but the 'dying' tree does lend a realistic look to the whole scene as per a real forest. I think if I owned this, I'd keep it for a while, see what happens to it. Stripped of its bark and bare branches to whiteness would add some drama to the scene, if larches do that.
I’ve had a little larch group for awhile with a perished tree in it. I liked the look of the cycles of life so I left it in. It’s not had the bark stripped yet after 3 years. I think dead trees in conifer groups just look right to me. ✌️
Its a shame that the tree on the left didn't have a 3 or 4 inch "dead snag" on the too. I see these in nature all the time and love them. Actually I want to make a specimen like that. None the less I would hate to see it removed from this beautiful forest.
Note to self: Do not give a Bonsai to a friend. (Because when it needs to be pruned, do you always prune it for free, because gift + friend? Or charge for the pruning? If you charge for future prunings, was the bonsai really a gift?)
Great grouping! I wish I was your friend!! lol. Personally I like the angle view best and I think the mostly dead adds a lot of interest to the group. I would leave it. prntscr.com/u70hws
"common" people live the adage that time is money . . . many of them aren't able to comprehend that talent is worth more than time.Time is, ultimately, an illusion. Whereas once a talent is mastered - that "talent" remains always an aspect of Soul.
Silly to think you'd go by the hour. You're charging for skill, not time. Come on now, if you went by the hour, that would mean you'd be paid less the more skilled you are!
Am I the only person who doesn't care about the time he takes? If you have been doing bonsai for 30 years, this task shouldn't take you any longer than 10 min.
I heard a nice anekdote about working fast and charging full price:
A woman entered a pottery shop, and saw the man working on some cups or vases. He made one in nearly 5 minutes. The woman asked how much he charges for that. He replied 40 dollar. The woman was astounded, 40 dollar for only 5 minutes of work? Yes the man replied, 5 minutes work and 40 years of experience..
Musicians get this kind of BS all the time. "It's only a two-hour gig, why should I pay several hundred dollars?" It's not just two hours of playing, it's the weeks/months/years of rehearsals, the cost of instruments, equipment, transport to and from the gig, insurance, hotels rooms, etc. Goes for any kind of artist I suppose...
your bonsai class is my breakfast!😀
I do want to do a Larch Forest. Thank you for doing this video. Your friend is extremely lucky to have this gift and here you have helped to maintain it. That is valuable as well
Larch is such a great tree for bonsai. The group looks great, that IS fast work, believe me!
That is a great looking group!
Made with love so money is of no account. A wonderful concept Mr. Chan. Well said and done.
I think whats important is that a lot of novices are afraid to prune and cut and "work" trees. And like you said, to change it. A lot of us have trees but are afraid of changing it because we might make it worse. But with change we learn. And with change, a mediocre tree can become a great tree. Such is life also.. Thank you so much for the insight. I learn a lot about the art of Bonsai from you but also take life lessons out of every video. I hope to visit you one day.
Great video Peter , thank you
The larch forest is a wonderful gift.You are a great friend to have Peter.❤
Mr. Chan in a mundane shirt today. That's new.
I love the comment about working quickly! It's very true.
As tidied, the larch forest is glorious. Astonishing what expert pruning achieves very fast.
Thanks for the video Peter.
Well that was fast,.was getting tea haha. Simple yet Beautiful composition Peter, lovely forest..bravo. Stay safe to all and cheers...
Terrific. As ever a pleasure.
bonsai related stuff 10%
peter talking about how fast he is 90% 😂
Good work Mr. Chan.
Another Gem! Thank you Paul. From Canada
Your friend is very lucky.
"how can you charge so much?!" Well Peter's not your average gardener is he?
What a big difference ☺☺
Thank you for your comment (☝️)
Sincerely
Patricia Ann Griggs ☺☺☺☺☺☺
That client that griped about your charge does not appreciate the mastery they are paying for. You would do yourself a service by NOT working for them ✌🏽 I; like so many others here; appreciate your work, energy, enthusiasm and experience and thank you for sharing it all with us 🥰
Super Peter, have a nice day.
Good job! :)
Clearly, you are an expert! Love to see your quick but meticulous work.
It is so true what you say, you should be paid for your expertise, not for time!
One would also not like to pay someone who just starts in the field per hour if it takes him 5 times longer...
Thanks for making these videos! You're awesome oppossum.
Beautiful bonsai😍
I really love larch 👌
I only wish some of the people i worked with had your attitude to work. Its not about time spent it is about the standard of the work produced.
I make handmade quits and I’ve had people tell me they can get one cheaper at Walmart. People want quality for nothing. I have no doubt your time is worth every penny. ☺️
I enjoy watching your videos you’re Truly a master, I think I watched half of them in a 2 week span. I’ve always been interested in horticulture and growing plants. I’ve been growing all types of peppers for hot sauce since 24 years old along with other herbs, Nectarine Trees and Blackberry/Blueberry bushes. I have a Japanese maple coral bark and a Sango Kaku I’ve purchased that I want to turn into a large bonsai like in one of your videos. Also a white Japanese pine bonsai, now that I’m 29 years old I want to make a lifetime hobby or even a side career out of it hell maybe a career running a nursery. There’s something about the aesthetics your garden has that I greatly admire with the maples and pines growing around the landscape. Just a fan from Pennsylvania. I’d definitely visit some day.
Another enjoyable video. I'm smarting a bit at the moment as my Kyohime maple was crushed in the wind by a tomato plant. Hey ho; another few years to rebuild the branches!
I received a Japanese Pepper from you this week, thank you for the fast delivery! It was very well packaged too. I found your shop through your videos on Maple trees, you've been a great help so far with these videos - I'm quite new to Bonsai and already addicted :)
Thank you Peter & team!
That is very fast and accurate . The person arguing about time of work being proportional to the amount of fees must have viewed it from his or her own context .It happens with some people , forgive and forget uncle Peter . Maybe It will take some time for the person to realise .
Now I see how you cut your finger some time back, cutting so fast and close to your other hand 😅 surprised it doesn’t happen more often but you are a pro that’s for sure!
Have you ever seen a butcher's fingers or lack of them ??
@peter chan, when you put it that way, you are right, no I have not. True skill I suppose
I like the idea of changing the "front" of the group, But would you consider having the weak tree you thought to remove and leave it to die and add interest that way?
Im not boasting, but im ten times quicker then anyone else 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love i. Call it how it is why be modest if it is the truth
Hello Mr.Chan, You have so much trees and I have a question unrelated to this video, how do you protect your trees from fungal problems? (powdery mildew, etc.). thank you. Elvis from Croatia
Fortunately we don't get much disease - This Summer has been very hot and that encourages Mildew. But apart from that we dont get much disease. In Spring we have slight problems with aphids.
unkempt is becoming a favorite word.
Very natural looking forest. May I suggest that instead of doing a quick tidy up you spend that time instructing your friend how to profile prune. That would save you 8 minutes 😉. Thanks
Mantap
Would the big tree look good as a dead tree, like often found in the forest
Do you have any advice for using true firs as bonsai? They seem to be a fairly rare subject and as such it's rather difficult to find information on how to care for and shape them.
I have a yamadori noble fir which I collected in early spring (well before it came out of dormancy), the tree is doing well. I believe it has quite a lot of potential, it's taper is fantastic and it has an almost perfect shape for a clinging to rock style (since it was indeed clinging to rocks). I do not plan on working the tree for quite some time but when I do I'm uncertain where to begin.
I also have a mountain hemlock specimen which is a perfect candidate for literati style (or something similar) but again finding information on how to care for the tree is quite difficult.
this should help, ryan neil is a great bonsai teacher
ruclips.net/video/6gTrab8zvmM/видео.html
In bonsai,i see,is same in real life.First big picture with fear.But as time pass picture are smaller wit a lot of smile heh
It feels like Mr.Chan worked the last final 2 hours for anonymous client 😅
That’s why your bonsai tools are still in good condition because things were made better in the old days.
If you planted a pine bonsai and let it really mature would you get pine cones ?
Yes
Thank you mr chan
Well how much are we talking about for two hours of work?
Tried to give my friend the gift of a jade plant ... he’s from Barnsley and hated it
Peter, many ppl do not value experienced talent. If that person insults, then ask him to send a pic of the group in 10 years 😀.
Beautiful 🌳
Peter, you once said forest should be grown in oval pots. Why is this forest grown in a rectangular pot?
I don’t like when people underpay people who work fast
They’re not just paying for your time; they’re paying for the years of experience it took for you to master your art
How to make this?
If clients watched your videos, they could do it themselves and pay nothing? :) This was so easy to ID what had to be removed!! But the tall old tree on the left... I can see removing that and making the forest more of a square (or oval) than rectangle but the 'dying' tree does lend a realistic look to the whole scene as per a real forest. I think if I owned this, I'd keep it for a while, see what happens to it. Stripped of its bark and bare branches to whiteness would add some drama to the scene, if larches do that.
I’ve had a little larch group for awhile with a perished tree in it. I liked the look of the cycles of life so I left it in. It’s not had the bark stripped yet after 3 years. I think dead trees in conifer groups just look right to me. ✌️
Its a shame that the tree on the left didn't have a 3 or 4 inch "dead snag" on the too. I see these in nature all the time and love them. Actually I want to make a specimen like that. None the less I would hate to see it removed from this beautiful forest.
Peter, please don't feel the need to justify your rates. You are an artist. They are paying for your talent, not your time.
Note to self: Do not give a Bonsai to a friend. (Because when it needs to be pruned, do you always prune it for free, because gift + friend? Or charge for the pruning? If you charge for future prunings, was the bonsai really a gift?)
Ask that customer why he collects dividends on the stocks he owns for doing 0 minutes of work.
lmao!!
Imajin being able to book any elite level person for a couple hours of work, then nickle and diming them about the cost 🤦🤦🤦 people.
It's a trim. Err. Worth £5 IF THAT.
Already 10x faster? Imagine what would happen if he started wearing red.
Great grouping! I wish I was your friend!! lol. Personally I like the angle view best and I think the mostly dead adds a lot of interest to the group. I would leave it. prntscr.com/u70hws
Mr. Peter how do I become a friend. I Would love To have a forest Keep making videos I'll keep watching
You frist have to buy 20 bonsai😄
@@cornedinslage6985 How did you guess? Ha Ha.
How do I buy 20 banzai trees from you guys
@@jessestambaugh447 If you live in the UK or EU we can supply. We dont send to any other countries like US, or Canada
Can I be your friend too. Hint hint.
ok picture plank 1860p😂picture doesn't no clip video RUclips bonsai
"common" people live the adage that time is money . . . many of them aren't able to comprehend that talent is worth more than time.Time is, ultimately, an illusion. Whereas once a talent is mastered - that "talent" remains always an aspect of Soul.
Silly to think you'd go by the hour. You're charging for skill, not time. Come on now, if you went by the hour, that would mean you'd be paid less the more skilled you are!
Am I the only person who doesn't care about the time he takes? If you have been doing bonsai for 30 years, this task shouldn't take you any longer than 10 min.