Will Israel v. Hamas End "Woke"?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @alexgreen2850
    @alexgreen2850 Год назад +138

    i will never understand how, in a 14 minute video, someone can put to words the, what is essentially, political existential crisis ive been going through for the last month and a half and somehow bring me back to reason. You are a gem.

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman Год назад +2

      You guys are late tbh….

    • @voltron8375
      @voltron8375 Год назад

      If you don't believe in child sex change you aren't on the left.

    • @holeshothunter5544
      @holeshothunter5544 11 месяцев назад

      if you'll never understand something you are an idiot

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 7 месяцев назад +3

      He is missing the mark so much
      This is different.
      This is not about right and left
      Nor democrats and republicans
      Nor MAGA and Woke.
      Nor about the desire to be a rebel or maintaining order.
      This is about freedom and justice and for Palestine, and one has to be on the correct side of history.

    • @BicycleFunk
      @BicycleFunk 6 месяцев назад

      @@Darth_Bateman you mean too late?

  • @DaveShap
    @DaveShap Год назад +13

    "What passes as the left" - my man well said

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 7 месяцев назад +5

      He missed the mark so much
      This is different.
      This is not about right and left
      Nor democrats and republicans
      Nor MAGA and Woke.
      Nor about the desire to be a rebel or maintaining order.
      This is about justice and freedom for Palestine, and one has to be on the correct side of history.

    • @jk_lol9266
      @jk_lol9266 4 месяца назад

      Do you consider yourself to be "the real left"?

  • @Whoops_forgot_my_name
    @Whoops_forgot_my_name Год назад +333

    Jared is the person who got me into philosophy as a teenager glad to see you back on RUclips.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Год назад +5

      He actually only left for a few months after leaving Wisecrack in 2020. He's been posting here regularly for years

    • @belrapture
      @belrapture Год назад +18

      His presence was SORELY missed on Wisecrack. I stopped watching about a few months after Jared left.

    • @red__guy
      @red__guy Год назад +13

      ​@@belrapture
      Is it only me or that wisecrack become clickbiatcrack?

    • @DonaldAMisc
      @DonaldAMisc Год назад +13

      ​​@@red__guyI unsubbed from Wisecrack a while ago when all their critiques of popular topics became so predictable (e.g. capitalism is to blame).

    • @metaouroboros6324
      @metaouroboros6324 Год назад +7

      ​@red__guy they have mcu humor now. I do think they have good information, but... like film theory for me, has gotten cringe to watch.

  • @purpledragon7634
    @purpledragon7634 Год назад +514

    "I feel bad for the innocent Palestinians" does NOT mean "I support Hamas"
    "I feel bad for the innocent Israeli citizens" does NOT mean "I support the IDF"
    Just because I like apples does not mean I hate oranges.

    • @Hotshot2k4
      @Hotshot2k4 Год назад +66

      While that's true, there are definitely people who will use more ambiguous versions of those statements to say the latter, sort of like a dog whistle. Someone who genuinely feels bad for innocent civilians is best off saying exactly that, and not distinguishing between the groups, because both groups have suffered and will continue to suffer for the foreseeable future.

    • @avidfather1864
      @avidfather1864 Год назад

      I hope that people are finally waking up to the fact that this black-and white morality thinking that "woke" and "anti-woke" people use, is making us regress ourselves to stone age tribalism. They're like two clans of Neanderthals yelling at each other to get out of each other's territory. I hope this will make us re-enter the era of civil debate again.

    • @SierraSierraFoxtrot
      @SierraSierraFoxtrot Год назад +158

      What you're saying is true.
      But at the same time your statement implies IDF and Hamas are somehow comparable.
      They're not.

    • @Randomize12345666
      @Randomize12345666 Год назад +81

      The death of the innocent is terrible, and there's no "on both sides" to that, because the innocent don't choose sides.
      Hamas is a terrorist organization that takes cynical advantage of the Palestinian sorrow. and Israel is a country lead by corrupt self caring politicians that would sacrifice any chance of sustainable peace for their own political power and gain.
      That said, there is some very important conflating that needs to be addressed, supporting Israel in dismantling Hamas after the atrocious terror attacks is not the same as supporting the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian people, in the same manner that supporting Palestine is not supporting Hamas. but all this doesn't change the current reality that the beast, Hamas, has to be put down now that it showed horrible.inhumanity. wether raised by Israels opression, by religious radicals and fundamentalists, by the Arab countries abandoning the Palestinian people.
      I think I wanted to make a point but I think lost it, it's all so effing sad and effed up.
      As some one who lives here, I hope this ends soon, I hope the bloodshed stops, I hope the people who shouldn't be in power perish from the positions they hold

    • @dj_laundry_list
      @dj_laundry_list Год назад +12

      I kept telling myself to resist the temptation to read the replies to this comment, but I have to say all of you left very thoughtful remarks and articulated some of what I was thinking. Has Jared curated or at least attracted commenters that don't make a cesspool out of everything?

  • @StavrosLazarou
    @StavrosLazarou Год назад +59

    Again, no serious person has ever claimed that the purpose of paper straws is to prevent climate catastrophe or to reduce CO2 emissions. Their purpose (similar to paper cotton buds) is to protect wildlife and marine life, i.e. to prevent impaling sea turtles, sea gulls etc

    • @laraantipova389
      @laraantipova389 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yes that’s what I was told max it’s bad for the sea life

    • @rngd0875
      @rngd0875 10 месяцев назад

      Yes, because straws magically appear in the ocean and come to life stabbing and attacking turtles. Imagine a 0.00000000001 milligram straw having the ramming force to impale a turtle or gull.
      I believe everything the government and pseudo-scientists (sjws) tell me as gospel truth.

    • @timk6181
      @timk6181 10 месяцев назад +6

      Tbf though in the face of the utter decimation that over fishing causes it is still pretty irrelevant

    • @Prolute
      @Prolute 9 месяцев назад

      @StavrosLazarou
      And it's still nonsense. The idea that plastic straws are bad for sea life comes from a single photo of a sea turtle with a straw in its nose. A straw that most likely didn't even come from a Western country. Banning plastic straws in a place like New York City saves exactly 0 sea life.

    • @Mk101T
      @Mk101T 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@timk6181 The need for a straw is irrelevant . But the supposed fiasco and hardship that the paper straw has caused . Could simply be alleviated by getting 2 straws . And then there is always the possibility of re-useable straws .

  • @moonshakedesign7633
    @moonshakedesign7633 6 месяцев назад +3

    Just discovered you and this is the second video of yours I've watched in the past 25 minutes.
    This is really, really great work, and refreshingly non-partisan and antidotal to the incredibly dumb, hyper partisan conflict culture the algorithms appear to have funnelled us into. I particularly appreciate that you filter your analysis through a philosophical lens.
    Thank you! Keep it up!

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames Год назад +84

    That was incredibly more insightful than I was expecting it to be, which just goes to show that you should never judge anything solely based on an attention-grabbing title.
    I should have just continued to trust that Jared would never waste my time with nonsense.

    • @finwefingolfin7113
      @finwefingolfin7113 Год назад +2

      Yes. Also, by explaining the benefits of wokeness to the professional managerial class, it helps to explain how every participant in the liberal hivemind can so rapidly develop exactly the same position on a particular subject almost instantaneously. I find it fascinating how the official woke opinion on any subject is spruiked word for word by almost every media outlet and commentator within hours of it being freshly minted

    • @msimon6808
      @msimon6808 Год назад

      Typical comment I'm seeing on Jewish sites.
      "I woke up October 7th a Liberal. I went to bed a Conservative."
      David Mamet feels BETRAYED.
      The election is over.

    • @chrissievanrooyen7313
      @chrissievanrooyen7313 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@finwefingolfin71139 km 7th5

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 7 месяцев назад

      Dude is missing the mark so much
      This is different.
      This is not about right and left
      Nor democrats and republicans.
      Nor MAGA and Woke.
      Nor about the desire to be a rebel or maintaining order.
      This is about justice and freedom for Palestine, and one has to be on the correct side of history.

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 27 дней назад

      @@17-MASY The right side of history doesn't massacre 1200 people at a music festival and take 250 hostages, or hide them under civian buildings.

  • @sicklaku
    @sicklaku Год назад +7

    Saying that the movie Don't Mess with the Zohan is propaganda is like saying Alien is a docu-film

    • @j.h3442
      @j.h3442 Месяц назад +1

      It is though

  • @hypertreb
    @hypertreb Год назад +15

    Holy shit I just found Jared's channel again after watching Wisecrack for years and comparing the quality of this video and their current output is like night and day. Great analysis

    • @masonm600
      @masonm600 Год назад +4

      Seriously. Watching Wisecrack now feels like stepping into the socialist freshman lounge, contributing little more than: Capitalism Bad.

    • @LH.595
      @LH.595 7 месяцев назад

      The video on "republican comedians" was so bad it almost turned sublime. Gosh, I miss the days Jared led Wisecrack. I love his videos, but he can't post as many videos as he did back then on his own. I kind of wish for a Wisecrack 2.0

  • @Alice-yu7pe
    @Alice-yu7pe Год назад +63

    The west’s reaction to the war in the Middle East was actually a huge eye opener for me, especially the reactions from GenZ and college students. Let’s just say I won’t be looking at a lot of people and institutions the same way again

    • @tonylvez
      @tonylvez Год назад

      I can’t believe pro-Israel folks think anyone who believes in resistance against oppressors would see them as righteous.

    • @teaja211
      @teaja211 Год назад +13

      Gen Z scares me tbh...

    • @sebces2576
      @sebces2576 Год назад +5

      @@teaja211 Why?

    • @teaja211
      @teaja211 Год назад +32

      @@sebces2576 because their approach to anyone that does not align with them is violence. They pretend to be accepting, yet the moment you slightly disagree they gonna mob you. and their lack of knowledge and lack of awareness that they lack it is astonishing. Now currently they dont have much power, but what will happen when they do?

    • @jpb2366
      @jpb2366 Год назад

      the "activist" west is simply to hate white people.... Jews look white... so they will take muslims side .. crazy

  • @professordogwood8985
    @professordogwood8985 Год назад +15

    What the world truly needs right now is Gal Godot strumming a guitar and serenading the world with John Lennon's "Imagine".

    • @InzidenzPanik
      @InzidenzPanik 10 месяцев назад +1

      It’s too late for that…Maybe “ we are the world.”

  • @Laurell_Silentshade
    @Laurell_Silentshade Год назад +22

    Y'know, I still expect the Wisecrack outro to play when I hear Jared say, "Peace!"

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 7 месяцев назад

      Dude is missing the mark so much
      This is different.
      This is not about right and left
      Nor democrats and republicans
      Nor MAGA and Woke.
      Nor about the desire to be a rebel or maintaining order.
      This is about justice and freedom for Palestine, and one has to be on the correct side of history.

  • @Alex_Barbosa
    @Alex_Barbosa 3 месяца назад +4

    If your going to keep using the term "woke" then you need to define what it means. The people using the word "woke" the most right now are using it to describe any and everything they are ideologically opposed to. If they can''t define it themselves, then you need to define it for any of this essay to make any sense. You are relying on the audience to already know what the term means, they don't, because it often doesn't mean anything. You gotta define your terms.

  • @Averagegunenthusiast
    @Averagegunenthusiast Год назад +45

    Being politically homeless is not a bad thing, I’ve been there my whole life. It only means you think for yourself and don’t take the party line on every issue.

    • @mjh5437
      @mjh5437 Год назад +3

      Me too,in England for most of my 60 years most people were too,but the last 40 years of enforced political correctness/wokeness have only made a lot of people totally miserable and hateful.

    • @shockcat5988
      @shockcat5988 Год назад +1

      No, you must choose between two wolves, who want to eat you or would you prefer your slave shackles to be gilded in gold or silver? They’re really tough choices.
      Would you prefer the school bus going off the cliff at 100 miles are 65 miles an hour?

    • @KarlSnarks
      @KarlSnarks Год назад +3

      Depends, "towing the party line" indeed isn't a good thing, but having a clear, consistent framework of values that guide your worldview actually is. Such an understanding will usually lead you to an ideological leaning. Like if you value egalitarianism you will probably not support the state holding power over womens wombs, you wouldn't support billionaires raking up capital while people go hungry, etc etc. so you'll more or less find a home with people who also hold similar values even if no perfect alignment (I don't really mean political parties though, more just ideologically alligned groups.)
      And you came there by thinking for yourself, not through dogma.

    • @Averagegunenthusiast
      @Averagegunenthusiast Год назад +2

      @@KarlSnarks I support limited government as much as feasible. This means a woman’s choice isn’t the government’s business, it also means I can own modern firearms. You tell me what party accepts both of those. I understand the need for some government regulation and some social services but I don’t think the government should tax the majority of your income. I also believe in gays right to Marry who they choose, adults to be able to Chang their gender, not children but adults. I don’t think billionaires should be completely unchecked but they shouldn’t have to have most of their income taxed. Based on this where do I belong? I don’t think my views fit the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

    • @sebces2576
      @sebces2576 Год назад

      @@Averagegunenthusiast it sounds like you're a standard centre-right libertarian. Which is honestly pretty close to the position of the Democratic party. However, you're not unique in having no party representing you exactly. American leftists also struggle with this as neither party align with them in terms of being anti-war or anti-capitalist, however the democrats are marginally closer to them on social issues and unions so that's who they tend to vote for.

  • @HFBeal
    @HFBeal Год назад +5

    Commenting for the algorithm this is some good thought provoking stuff. Thanks Jared!

  • @KingBeardJude
    @KingBeardJude Год назад +6

    Damn, youtube needs to give you some more love. Happened upon this, and you did excellent job with the way you formatted this video.

  • @Kentman513
    @Kentman513 Год назад +30

    I dunno, I don't see a contradiction between wokeness and anti-apartheid sympathy for Palestine. The tension is between the corporate ADOPTERS of wokeness and the actual proponents of wokeness. Wokeness won't go away, it'll just revert to its subversive status as those corporate sponsors distance themselves (revealing that their committment to wokeness was inauthentic from the beginning). Maybe that's what your saying.
    Also, the paper straws thing isn't us individually deciding to sacrifice for the cause, it's a structural decision made by corporations that don't want to actually address the problem. A good faith reading of the situation would find that, as alluded to above, the tension was between the actual woke practitioners (who just drink from the cup, by the way) and the corporate sponsors posing as woke to pander for profit. Woke people threw fits about paper straws as much as racist people did.
    Finally, and this is my own theory, I'm not totally sold on the psychological explanation for poor Confederates' ideological committment to white supremacy. I'm not sure that's not a bit of deflection from some good old, authentic racism. Sure, some of them probably didn't care one way or another and therefore adopted a worldview that made their everyday lives more livable, but I'm sure a lot of them also just genuinely held racist views. And can't the same be true of the poor Wokes in that third category? Maybe they just genuinely believe in socioeconomic justice and equality for all?

    • @SamSepiolTheHeretic
      @SamSepiolTheHeretic Год назад

      What he is saying is that when the elites say “time to change the tune” a new dance will begin. “Wokeness” is about socioeconomic justice like the grass is blue. It is a top down framework that was cleared by the powerful and handed down through the universities and their professors. You would not know or care about land acknowledgments or Palestine if it was approved beforehand by the elites. Do the elites all get along, no. You have your neocon faction, your globalist Tony Blair faction, your Obama dem faction. Did they all support woke? No, but enough of them did so it was permitted for a time. Do you not think a movement that tore down statues of a countries founders could do so without the approval of the powerful? Attending a BLM rally is like getting a head pat from George Soros like a good little dog. Did a lot of the corporations like BlackRock that handle retirement funds push ESG without really buying into it? Sure, but it is because liberals and capitalists always side with leftists and communists against fascism. Roosevelt and Stalin Vs Hitler, big business and wokes vs MAGA. Same old story, nothing will ever change.

    • @chinyereugwu9431
      @chinyereugwu9431 Год назад

      Then you should get to your library and research how white became a race or how the Irish and Italians immigrants in America became White. It's all part of US history and it really did happen.

    • @MrEmafon4
      @MrEmafon4 Год назад

      Great take.

  • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
    @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Год назад +33

    “You always own the option of having no opinion. There is never any need to get worked up or to trouble your soul about things you can't control. These things are not asking to be judged by you. Leave them alone.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад +1

      Worth?

    • @MrEmafon4
      @MrEmafon4 Год назад +1

      This is to me the supreme way of dealing with life... Yet I cannot follow thru with it, something inside me tells me that the whole stoic movement is a fundamental piece in the maintainance of the status quo.... It is funny to think about it, since the one who coined it was an imperial ruler, one who benefited greatly from upholding the power and control of the Roman Empire.

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад

      @@MrEmafon4 I'm more comfortable with probability. Balance is probably good. It's probably bad sometimes too.

  • @maddie5558
    @maddie5558 Год назад +9

    This is a really interesting perspective. I find the analysis of the paper straw fascinating. Look forward to hearing more from you.

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 7 месяцев назад

      He's is missing the mark so much, this isn't like paper straws
      Real people are dying!
      This is not about Right and Left
      Nor democrats and republicans
      Nor MAGA and Woke.
      Nor about the desire to be a rebel or maintaining order.
      This is about justice and freedom for Palestine, and one has to be on the correct side of history.

    • @BicycleFunk
      @BicycleFunk 6 месяцев назад

      @@17-MASY I think what he is saying is that our actions are mostly performative. As much as it hurts, I agree. Many of us have obligated to care for others and so the only way to make progress is to create community resiliency such that there is security in dissent. Without security, you only subject yourself to harm and as we have already seen, martyrdom has little to no impact against the momentum of the system.

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 6 месяцев назад

      @@BicycleFunk I'd say it depends on the person, about how infulencal or powerful he is "With great power comes great responsibility" .
      But even when we feel powerless; that we're just "Infantry", We should not be rash, nor should we give up and do nothing.
      Do what you can.

    • @BicycleFunk
      @BicycleFunk 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@17-MASY I agree, but my thinking is that people can be doing much more without compromising their position - yet. Ultimately, something has to be done and the best strategy is to get organized.

  • @tomascorrea9477
    @tomascorrea9477 6 месяцев назад +1

    Just re-watched the Wisecrack video on The Matrix and systems of control (from a couple years ago). Zizek's jouissance fits well with it, where the individual enjoyment of feeling we're "raging against the machine" can be commodified and exploited to make us an even better cog. Like Neo in the matrix sequels, who has been "freed" just to discover his seemingly rebellious actions are all part of the true Matrix, the broader system of control set up to ensure the continuation of the war.

  • @KidHowren
    @KidHowren Год назад +8

    your talent for articulating nuanced philosophical concepts in a concise and clear way is wild. your insight has been sorely missed since you left wisecrack. glad you're back, just wish youtube's algorithm had been smart enough to let me know 2 years ago lol

  • @ikenosis8160
    @ikenosis8160 Год назад +12

    Jared, this video is absolutely brilliant. I watched it last week and have been thinking about the depth of your analysis since I saw it. I think your hypothesis is sound, your assessment is as compelling as it is objective, and your ability to communicate the data without bias is profoundly refreshing. Thank you so much for your work. I've liked and shared.
    I am so outraged by the actions of _______ in the middle east.
    It deeply offends me being a person who's ancestors are ______.
    Why can't ________ just allow for peace and stop being so violent?
    I deeply support _______ because they have lived in the land for generations and no one should make them leave.
    It's like historical relativistic adlibs. I am more of a Christopher Hitchens man myself.
    Thanks again.
    🌟

  • @chavezchavo
    @chavezchavo Год назад +23

    "... it gives us the psychological benefit of believing that we're making a difference by using it [paper straws]"
    I believe a whole lot of people (especially those who have never stepped foot in Israel/Palestine) have been raging a whole lot on social media and taken steps to boycott businesses that is seen as pro-Isreali (i.e. McDonald's). It makes them believe that they are making a difference in the whole war/conflict/genocide (or whatever you want to call it) that is going on.

    • @chadkeene7894
      @chadkeene7894 Год назад +6

      I didn't like the paper straw analogy. I don't like any argument wholly discrediting the impact of a movement seeking to minimize the negative ecological impact of it's industry based on the fact it doesn't eliminate the negative impact entirely.

    • @q0dis
      @q0dis Год назад

      same@@chadkeene7894

    • @q0dis
      @q0dis Год назад

      small actions do not matter individually, but if everyone has the mentality that their small actions wont work, they will never start and for ence, never work. Many people prevent themselves from any activism bc they feel discouraged. We're 99% of thw world vs the 1% powerful. We need orgnization, action, union and resilience ....@@chadkeene7894

    • @Zerradable
      @Zerradable Год назад

      @@chadkeene7894 Perfect point. Remember to use the same logic when analyzing inequalities and poverty.

  • @KampGallery
    @KampGallery 6 месяцев назад +1

    the really nice thing about a paper straw is that it makes your beverage taste like the bleached wood pulp it's made of.

  • @thezackme
    @thezackme Год назад +78

    Hey Jared, following you since the very early days of wisecrack. I am a Palestinian currently living in the West Bank. Those of us who are much less affected by what is happening fall in the trap of simulating a similar concept of the one you’ve just explained. Of course we all want to have human rights by not being military occupied but we also do not do much about it. Those who do usually do not live to see much of it come to fruition either way. To be able to live with ourselves, especially when others are being harmed, we begin posting about every single thing, oversaturating our media circles with things we already assume are happening, but treat it as valuable information because others might change their minds. That is the problem of academia; It pretends to be the key to the betterment of humanity but it only offers peace to the morally opposed, not the physically opposed. It acts like a judge of righteousness without leading to the execution of righteousness. I understand that decision makers are the culprits of this segregation of academia and politics but it doesn’t explain why academics do not become physical agents of change instead of remaining intellectual agents of change only. But again, I’m here typing this comment on my couch while people are getting massacred 40 miles away. So who am I to say anything?

    • @rakhmanoshakbayev2419
      @rakhmanoshakbayev2419 Год назад +9

      If it makes you feel any better I am thankful you typed this comment out and I found it very insightful. Granted, I am also currently on my couch :( Could you elaborate what you mean when you say 'decision makers are the culprits of this segregation of academia and politics' and why do you think so? Greetings and love.

    • @thezackme
      @thezackme Год назад +8

      @@rakhmanoshakbayev2419 what I mean is that decision makers do not go back to the well of knowledge that is academia to inform their decisions, not as often as they should.

    • @ans5627
      @ans5627 Год назад +5

      In case you suggest people in academia begin arming themselves and harm people for the sake of their ideology, I highly advice against it. We have seen what are the fruits of those movements are. Look at China and the cultural revolution, look at the communist USSR etc etc, academics can bring the darkest and most bloody regimes history has ever known.
      On a different note, I am sympathetic to the plight you are in. I hope you guys over there can one day get together and find a political movement that actually cares about you and seeks peace for you with Israel, instead of perpetrating hatred, and violence, and exploiting you in the process. Would love to live side by side with you as a brother instead of an enemy.

    • @jdmo741
      @jdmo741 Год назад +1

      @@ans5627chinas cultural revolution was anti intellectual

    • @ans5627
      @ans5627 Год назад

      @@jdmo741 that was perpetrated by intellectuals freshly indoctrinated in academies.

  • @CarlyonProduction
    @CarlyonProduction Год назад +2

    Ooooh. This might be your best one yet. Great stuff

  • @Space_Toasty
    @Space_Toasty Год назад +3

    Cenk can't even school a blank piece of paper lol

  • @רוניאודלר
    @רוניאודלר Год назад +1

    Thank you! Very interesting! Look forward to here more from you.

  • @dj_laundry_list
    @dj_laundry_list Год назад +119

    This doesn't directly relate to Jared's points, but part of the issue in the "west" is that not many people know enough facts about the situation to know when they're being fed BS, or when important information is being omitted, and then form strong opinions about what's going on. When one actually talks to israelis and palestinians about the issues, they can't generally be hoodwinked because they know the general facts about the very complex situation. For example, try asking a woke person how Arab life is in Israel, how much political representation they have, etc, and see if their answer lines up with factual information.

    • @eespinola
      @eespinola Год назад +24

      Sure, but part of this, besides general propaganda, is that there is a long history of antisemitism in the West. The way the corporate woke lens tends to frame things makes it hard to see people as simultaneously victims and abusers. The Western corporate woke frameworks have similar problems digesting the Tamil genocides in Shri Lanka, so they normally just try to avoid looking at those topics. However, with Israel's strong alliance with the US military, this can't be as easily ignored so its creating this tension.

    • @adamb.m4844
      @adamb.m4844 Год назад +7

      West hide some facts to the public , when you sée a former appartheid state describe Israël as appartheid state

    • @Jellyfishjelly77
      @Jellyfishjelly77 Год назад +17

      @@adamb.m4844 because we were an apartheid state, it is easier for us to recognize it. Palestinians have always had to live by different rules from Israelis. They have less rights and are largely controlled by Israel (their water supply,electric, etc). Their water source is used as a dumping ground by Israel, they are not even allowed to fly their own flag. That is why they use watermelons to represent themselves. Then again, can an illegal occupation even be considered a “state”?
      Mind you, this is all information I got from Israeli sources. So I believe it only tells half the story.

    • @cindyharrison8997
      @cindyharrison8997 Год назад

      @@Jellyfishjelly77how are Jews treated in Palestine and other Arab countries?

    • @WanderingMendicant-qd7mv
      @WanderingMendicant-qd7mv Год назад +10

      The quality of Arab life in Israel is irrelevant to the ongoing oppression and genocide of the Palestinian people. There is no context that justifies it.

  • @JSK010
    @JSK010 Год назад +4

    I think the point is oversold here. The Hungarian Uprising of 1953 or the Prague Spring of 1968 didn't end western leftists being enamored with Sovjet-communism (even though it turned-off some more liberal members of left wing parties, academics in the humanities, etc). The intellectual mind can deal with many, very many, contradictions.

  • @clayongunzelle9555
    @clayongunzelle9555 Год назад +4

    Whenever i watch videos like these i feel the need to encourage whomever is reading my comment to read the book "the crowd" just by reading epilogue you get a clear understanding of what is going on in the world.

  • @badshibari6707
    @badshibari6707 Год назад

    Man I was missing your videos and didn't know where you went on the internet. Glad the algorithm served me something good for once.

  • @alperenergun6441
    @alperenergun6441 Год назад +88

    This issue also exposes free speech champions aka the usual hypocrites like Shapiro.

    • @metaouroboros6324
      @metaouroboros6324 Год назад +15

      It exposes more than just him, but definitely him.

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад

      @@metaouroboros6324 Exposes how?

    • @eespinola
      @eespinola Год назад +22

      ​@@BrickDaniels-qu7bzpeople like Shapiro will defend their content as free speech but criticize anti Isreal or pro Hamas content and demand censorship and whatnot for it.

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад

      And where does that leave you?

    • @Bazravish69
      @Bazravish69 Год назад

      And in your mind does this discredit the championing of free speech? It shouldn’t.

  • @misterscorpius1446
    @misterscorpius1446 Год назад +14

    This analysis is confusing because woke is contemporarily only an oppositional brand that roughly translates to "things liberals and leftists do that conservatives dislike"
    This analysis only begins to make sense when one either rejects what I just said or substitutes instances of you saying "woke" with maybe a new term entirely. What you're describing is more like an empty calorie progressivism where the language and feeling of emancipation are taken but not the controversial and uncomfortable substance

    • @bluepapaya77
      @bluepapaya77 Год назад +4

      I think this gets at the issue I had with the video. Woke has a legitimate meaning and, more commonly in media, the use as a meaningless trigger word to signal to the populist mob that it's time for righteous anger. Given that the second is beyond a straw man it's easy to invent a third meaning for whatever argument you want and sound reasonable.
      Well, there was one other thing issue I had, but it was a nitpick barely related to the point of the video if at all. I recently watched a video by a PhD in Astrophysics who said that gravity in fact was a social construct and it convinced me.

    • @misterscorpius1446
      @misterscorpius1446 Год назад

      Can you link that video? It does sound interesting. @@bluepapaya77

    • @jerrodshack7610
      @jerrodshack7610 Год назад

      The term "woke" is completely and totally meaningless now. It has been beaten into the ground by conservatives who use it to describe anything and everything they don't like, as you said.

    • @17-MASY
      @17-MASY 7 месяцев назад +2

      Jared is missing the mark so much
      This is different.
      This is not about right and left
      Nor democrats and republicans
      Nor MAGA and Woke.
      Nor about the desire to be a rebel or maintaining order.
      This is about justice and freedom for Palestine, and one has to be on the correct side of history.

  • @macrosense
    @macrosense Год назад +5

    The lay person’s perception of woke just means adding blacks and gays into popular entertainment.

  • @kavehafshar1092
    @kavehafshar1092 Год назад +2

    dude, you are on a different level! thanks for your content

  • @bestsloppymemes
    @bestsloppymemes Год назад +45

    Great video. I think the best example of what you are talking about is the Harvard students who wrote a letter that gave perspective on the history of Israel’s colonialism, and how the open air prison the Palestinian refugees are now forced to live in caused the desperation that motivated the attack. The students felt they could write this letter because they have been taught by the university to “decolonize your mind,” and speak out for marginalized indigenous people. What they didn’t realize is that the woke teachings no longer apply if you’re going against the war machine. They were widely criticized for being supporters of Hamas, and had their invitations to the PMC (Goldman Sachs jobs) rescinded.

    • @MrBazBake
      @MrBazBake Год назад +12

      You think capitalism and the military industrial complex started oppressing college students this week?
      ...Kent State.

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад

      @@MrBazBake It just sounds wrong when you say it like that. It sounds dishonest. Vague.

    • @bestsloppymemes
      @bestsloppymemes Год назад +9

      @@MrBazBake nope that’s not what I said. The point is liberal ideas can only be acted upon when they do not challenge the power structure. This means on war. If you favor peace talks in Ukraine or Israel you may as well be a leper.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Год назад

      ​@@bestsloppymemesthat what woke is? Little surgesttion that don't challenge the establishment?
      Political correction it just thread to make middle class not guilty for what they have?

    • @MichaEl-hl7pp
      @MichaEl-hl7pp Год назад +1

      But they were correct in everything they did

  • @cscs88
    @cscs88 Год назад +1

    Props for game genie reference. Great content as always!

  • @zmateneslunicko3928
    @zmateneslunicko3928 Год назад +37

    Just to say, paper straw is part of the solution of problems with microplastics, when they end up in the biosphere. It helps, as paper straw thrown away to the ocean/ground etc. does no harm that way as it dissolves after a small rain.
    Edit: Paper straws and other such products have their own issues, I know. Depends what you are trying to solve.

    • @gwolks1008
      @gwolks1008 Год назад +21

      Well then, let me tell you a secret - you can actually drink without a straw altogether... But shhh. Don't tell anyone.

    • @zmateneslunicko3928
      @zmateneslunicko3928 Год назад +2

      @@juliojap6470 I read it. I am aware that paper straws have issues of their own, which are vastly different to a problem of microplastics in ocean. (Sorry I did not state it that way first, which may lead to misunderstanding.) It really depends on priorities stated during policy making - if your priority is to reduce microplastics rather than e.g. save energy and local forests, ban makes sense - but as for it being a minor part of an entire problem with microplastics, it has to be part of a larger plan.
      There are many cases, when one policy goes to a conflict with another and this is surely one of them.

    • @zmateneslunicko3928
      @zmateneslunicko3928 Год назад +4

      @@gwolks1008 You're right. But there is a diference between an individual action and policy making in search of a solution here, taking in consideration real human behaviour.
      You can of course let everything on individual decions (like choosing to use or not to use straws). However, this may be a compromise between banning straws altogether and doing nothing. In EU, this was a part of larger legislative tackling the microplastics in food/ocean/...
      I would personally go for a full ban, although I understand the fear of public backlash, whenever you take something what people take for granted, even if that step is neccessary.

    • @juliojap6470
      @juliojap6470 Год назад +3

      @@zmateneslunicko3928 no problem, luv! I was actually a lil relieved you commented on it, originally I wanted Jared to contrast the treatment of straws and makeups (which contain glitters and shit) and how one of them is vastly more profitable (and thus protected), but he decided to keep it simple.
      But even if straws did have a big impact on the ocean, beauty products have way more... The sacrifice would be too big, though, not allowing for what zizek calls joissance (as well as not being chique, given that the wrong doers and abusers of these projects are mostly women and LGBT... And holding them accountable doesn't feel like fighting Power). So the point still holds

    • @juliojap6470
      @juliojap6470 Год назад +4

      @@zmateneslunicko3928 not to forget disabled people who literally need straws, some of them not being able to use paper ones due to them being unbendable or requiring more strength to suck on

  • @jimmyboyeldon5969
    @jimmyboyeldon5969 11 месяцев назад +2

    Basic psychological needs…..clever stuff man ! Everyone looks at the big picture not what every individual is gaining personally from it…..

  • @LeftFace
    @LeftFace Год назад +6

    This is why it’s so important to assess your worldview and constantly ask *why* you believe it. Everything said here is poignant, but I think runs the risk of being used as ammunition and proof of “this is spot on: woke ideology is only about virtue signaling”.
    Take the straws for example. If I choose to only use metal straws, it’s because I want my own peace of mind that I’m doing what I can, even if what I can is almost literally nothing on the larger scale. If we only cared about the larger scale; then we’d never do anything. See SA? Might as well ignore it bc stopping that SA does nothing for the billions of SAs that happen across the globe.
    If you keep a consistent view on what you deem as harmful, then it’s not hard at all to “pick a side” in, say, the Israel-Palestine situation. You don’t ever have to worry about what will benefit or hurt you with regard to social credits when social credits are not in your litmus.

    • @Zerradable
      @Zerradable Год назад

      Well, it is only virtue signaling, in the same vein as reactionary religious catholics did before the 60s... Tragically enough, it works in the same manner as terrorism: the cause ends up being more important than their supposed mission is, normally based in helping whoever they think is vulnerable and/or facing unjustice. At the end of the day, the position of pro-Palestine/Hamas revolves only in the most irrational hatred towards the USA, in a childish attempt to look intelectually and morally superior to everyone else. It may look simplistic, but it is what it is. Very few people are truly on pair with their values, specially in an era where reality is "fluid" and morally grey (when convenient).

  • @oraclewyrd2639
    @oraclewyrd2639 Год назад +1

    All the this.
    Seriously, ty for you vids. Your outlook has always helped me brain out the 'cult'ural knots in there. SO much about 'cult'ure rubs agents the grey matter wrong, cuz it's crazy. Just all crazy sauce with nut oil and wingnut noodles.

  • @explainingpolitics
    @explainingpolitics Год назад +23

    In response to your conclusion. This feels like the kind of thing American Historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr wrote about in regards to his theory of American Cyclical History (the theory that political parties realign every 30 years or so as a result of a major event causing an ideological shift).
    The Federalist and Anti-Federalist Parties had been debating very different interpretations of how the federal government should function with very little shift amongst the elites resulting in a stagnant roughly 50-50 split preventing progress and action. Going into the War of 1812, the Federalist Party vehemently argued against working with France instead favoring Britain. Well when Britain declared war on the United States, the Federalist argument lost all credibility and Federalists were basically chased out of government for the next 20 years.
    Similarly going into the 1850s, the Whigs and Democrats fought over the issue of whether or not to allow slavery in newly created states. When the Republican Party was created with a more bold take on the issue of slavery, they pulled so many of the voting base out of the Whig Party that the Republicans replaced the party rapidly (due to the reality of first past the post two-party politics) and the South seceded following Lincoln's inauguration - because the shift alone is powerful enough.
    The moral of the story being, when an event happens that shifts the political landscape to the point that there is no longer an institutional force backing an unpopular position - that position will fold or else be demonized. This feels like Truman years if you ask me.

    • @thedukeofchutney468
      @thedukeofchutney468 Год назад +2

      In short: “There is nothing new under the sun.”

    • @explainingpolitics
      @explainingpolitics Год назад +7

      @@thedukeofchutney468 one of my favorite sayings.
      In international relations you are taught that domestic politics is shaped by international politics. Not vice-versa.
      This is the reason two party systems tend to exist within this world system. Because factions that ordinarily would compete against eachother as separate factions- will join together to form coalitions because their is strength in numbers. So if one faction is in power and dominates domestic politics; then the other faction often will side or at least collaborate with the enemies of that system both within and from outside in order to take back control of the domestic politics.
      That’s why within the United States the Democratic Party tend to have their international allies and the Republican Party has their own allies. Sometimes within a nation, like in Britain the Labour Party is aligned with the Democrats and the Conservatives with the Republicans.
      This is not just for the purposes of jockeying for power within a nation however. This also serves a national and international security purpose.
      Nations need to maintain relations even with their enemies. Even when they’re at war with those enemies. Nations depend on those who can communicate with. Well, whomever the government would need to.
      So frankly what it means is that nations are divided by design. And the key is to understand why it’s designed that way. Understanding the duties, tasks, responsibilities of a nation. And then you’ll understand the nature of conflict and disagreement.
      It’s Sun Tzu. Know yourself and know your enemy and you need not fear the result of a thousand battles

    • @z3rz112
      @z3rz112 Год назад

      @@explainingpolitics Great analysis, Ryan! I love it! Could you please share a to-read list of your favorite polisci books, on the topics of political division and international/domestic politics? Want to go deeper into those subjects. Thank you in advance!

    • @explainingpolitics
      @explainingpolitics Год назад +2

      @@z3rz112 well I read a lot of biographies 😅
      In college I compiled a list of several hundred world figures from 1750s to today. And I would fill out their profiles by reading biographies. As I got through them all I realized that the way different figures, factions, institutions relate to eachother is not nearly as black and white as it’s often represented.
      So I will say this is my opinion. It’s not based on science or academic research but interpretation of history using my background in international relations.
      So what I can recommend is international relations pieces.
      The Melian Dialogue by Thucydides
      The Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
      Perpetual Peace: A Philosophical Sketch by Immanuel Kant
      The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and it’s Geostrategic Imperatives by Zbiegniew Brzezinski
      But most of all, as many biographies of figures from across the world as you can. I read about the leaders of the Soviet Union, British Parliament, US Congress and the founding fathers of every state and major city, the royal families of Europe, those who rose to power as those royal families fell, revolutionaries, celebrities, religious leaders. North America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia. You’d be amazed the crossovers you’ll discover.

  • @NaomiChambers
    @NaomiChambers Год назад

    This video was a pleasant surprise. I shared it on facebook. There was so much information, a lot to take in. Thank you. I hope you produce similar content.

  • @Mike80528
    @Mike80528 Год назад +57

    "WOKE" is an ideology that sees the world in black-and-white terms of the oppressed and the oppressors. It's really that simple, and it is exactly that "simplicity" that looses all context.

    • @akshayneha
      @akshayneha Год назад +8

      and that oppressed oppressor is purely seen from the lens of power differential, and nothing else. And so, if you have slightly more power, you automatically become the oppressor. Doesn't matter if that power differential purely came from the context of survival (in Israel's case), i.e., they wouldn't survive if they weren't the powerful one.

    • @roseg2239
      @roseg2239 Год назад

      It doesn't even make sense in this context because Jews have been historically oppressed, are one of the groups that suffer the most hate crimes and are an extremely tiny minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims. There are half a billion Arabs. There are only 17 million Jews. Just how are Arabs the "oppressed" ones?

    • @nnakaudoh
      @nnakaudoh Год назад +1

      Yet they perceive and advertise themselves as the oppressed one. If you don't claim that a land that's not yours to be yours. you don't have to fight over it.@@akshayneha

    • @akshayneha
      @akshayneha Год назад

      @@nnakaudoh You can keep saying that, but that doesn't change the fact that Israel exists. Saying that over and over is not going to change reality.
      And that's the whole issue. First you say there should be a 2 state solution. Israel says sure let's do it, then you say no no we dont want two states. We want all of it. And if you tell the other person that (while holding no leverage), of course the other person will tell you to bugger off. And then you keep crying the world over.
      Wishful thinking doesn't change anything. Also, in this way, no border disputes would have ever been solved (and yet they have because sensible heads have prevailed in those conflicts eventually).

    • @bdleo300
      @bdleo300 Год назад

      Woke Cult was created by corporations and media.... I wonder who owns all corporations and media and why all US politicians, left or right, Biden or Trump, Tulsi or Vivek, literally ALL of them serve one tiny foreign country.

  • @darioussadberry5784
    @darioussadberry5784 Месяц назад

    There are several things on which we probably disagree. What I appreciate is your ability to articulate the whole measure in a way that I can pinpoint exactly what I disagree with vice having a general feeling of dislike. It's what the world needs. We'll done sir.

  • @ikeu6433
    @ikeu6433 Год назад +19

    I think most of the reason people who are in the “laptop class” and managerial class are woke is that there are a lot of people of color in the laptop class now and they are talking about the ways in which they or their parents have been historically hindered. I think “woke” managers are desired because people would like to hire managers and HR people that aren’t going to tolerate sexism or racism.
    I think the fact that women and people of color are just now being allowed into these positions is under emphasized because many do not have a desire to talk about the legitimate necessity of having people in an organization who are aware of the social struggle of others based upon race or creed.
    Many would rather just talk about blatant posers and bad faith actors and deem that “excess wokeness”.
    If someone was going around labeling things carcinogenic that were not we would not call that “excess cancer awareness” We would just say they aren’t what they claim to be.
    Edit: Wokeness is not a paper straw in the face of global warming. It is a force that ensures my sister and I will not face the level of workplace discrimination my parents faced when they were finally allowed to enter these coveted classes social classes. It won’t go away, the term is like 100 years old and the idea is much older. It can lose favor but I promise you it would be like the end of reconstruction in the south.

    • @Magickmeetsmasculinity
      @Magickmeetsmasculinity Год назад

      They hire mostly millennial middle clas white women as upper management because they are agreeable and not against the status quo’s.

    • @irinaiturri
      @irinaiturri Год назад

      I agree, but certainly will be necessary some changes and adaptations to mantain and improve the lifes of minorities, instead of left some sorts of insanity inside progressive movements to galvanize much more those who wish to erradicate or control those minorities

  • @shanihandel9621
    @shanihandel9621 Год назад +2

    Thank you Jared. Brilliant!

  • @anthonytitone
    @anthonytitone Год назад +5

    7:52 this feels to vague to me, it is possible in a relative sense to be more morally conscious than someone else. Feeling morally superior to the working class as a whole can fit in the compensation narrative but if you hear a terrible belief & feel that your belief is morally superior I don’t c a problem there, people should put value in the things they believe, it shows one cares about what they’re advocating

  • @johnnydeals
    @johnnydeals Год назад

    Bro Jared I’m glad I found your channel. Your input and voice is something I’ve missed since you leaving wisecrack

  • @Problematist
    @Problematist Год назад +6

    Woke is used from stand-in for LGBTQ to anything that's left-leaning whereas politically correct or SJW had much clearer definitions.
    All three also never stood exclusively for identity politics, pandering and fake leftism. Using it liberally in this context is just confusing.

  • @MagneticDonut
    @MagneticDonut Год назад

    Man I cannot believe I haven't found you until now since you stepped away from wisecrack. Nice seeing you're still on yt!

  • @reloadeddice8654
    @reloadeddice8654 Год назад +3

    I think you're misunderstanding why people don't like the word "woke". If it meant something like: "People and businesses who are performatively supporting political agendas that they don't care about" or something more specific I don't think people would have an aversion to it. Terms like politically correct and social justice have specific definitions and meanings that make very useful in describing certain movements and actions. Unlike "woke" which can be and has been used extremely flippantly to describe someone or something simply as bad.

  • @LH.595
    @LH.595 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jared, what are the chances you'll consider doing a follow-up video on this? If you have new insights to share that is.

  • @Shinyshoesz
    @Shinyshoesz Год назад +34

    It has to be nearing its end. The contradictions involved in this conflict are unique and will definitely ripple! Wil be very interesting. Thanks Jared!

    • @ido5139
      @ido5139 Год назад +5

      Exactly! Queers for Palestine! Palestinians (not just Hamas) literally say they don't want support from gay people

    • @DJDextek
      @DJDextek Год назад +1

      @@ido5139
      @ido5139
      FREEE ISREAL

    • @taliabraver
      @taliabraver Год назад +1

      I have never laughed so hard!@@ido5139

    • @H__.22
      @H__.22 Год назад +8

      @@ido5139why do you people always bring up lgbt? Gay marriage isn’t even legal in Israel. Also even if they are homophobic what does that have to do with not wanting them killed and standing with basic human rights

    • @zkatom3773
      @zkatom3773 Год назад

      The difference is that gay people actually exist and can live freely in Israel, without fearing of their head being beheaded you know...@@H__.22

  • @raycar9827
    @raycar9827 Год назад +2

    It's all about that catharsis. As an example a movie about revolution will fill the desire for revolution and alleviate the desire to actually do anything about it.

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад +1

      That's some grim realism.

    • @FluffyBunniesOnFire
      @FluffyBunniesOnFire Год назад +1

      Or how counterculture movements become undercut by the commodification of the affects and imagery of the movement by the corporate status quo apparatus. Films with revolutionary sentiments are products that are permitted to be released by establishments, as the inspiration to challenge said systems fades by the time the viewer drives home and purchases tie in merchandise online.

    • @raycar9827
      @raycar9827 Год назад

      @@FluffyBunniesOnFire I couldn't agree more. I think it's sad we live in a world where revolution is a fantasy and oppression is the status quo.

  • @parthagarwal1855
    @parthagarwal1855 Год назад

    Brilliant content! Thanks man

  • @austria-hungary4981
    @austria-hungary4981 Год назад +9

    The best non-aligned expression is
    "I feel sorry for the people that have to suffer under the terror and conflict between the riches who live under the delusion that they're playing a videogame with each other."

  • @Rakso5809
    @Rakso5809 11 месяцев назад

    I do not fully agree with you, but I find your content fascinating, and you are food for my thoughts. I think we need more people like you, not trying to force an agenda, but starting thought processes and stating your perspective. Thank you.

  • @Kcoldraz
    @Kcoldraz Год назад +7

    I don't know if the analysis makes sense. I mean, wouldn't the woke stance should be "I support Palestine"? And if there is a woke stance in this issue, why would this event affect "woke" ideology in any way. Or does the economic pressure make "I stand with Palestine" infeasible entirely?

    • @ChrisGuerra31
      @ChrisGuerra31 Год назад

      This video sure was a lot. I'm still trying to figure out what the acronym PMC means. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean Private Military Company.

    • @Kcoldraz
      @Kcoldraz Год назад +5

      Professional Managerial class. Didn't he mention it before he mentioned "laptop class". Or did I just fill it out since I hear the term all the time.

    • @sualtam9509
      @sualtam9509 Год назад +4

      Israel got an underdog bonus when they were a tiny nation surrounded by aggressive neighbours invading it constantly.
      And most importantly by being the only secular democratic country in a region full tyranny and religious fanatism makes it hard to paint as evil.
      It is not an apartheid state since the Arabic speaking Israelis enjoy full citizenship and complete legal equality.
      Palestinians of the PA and Gaza are foreigners and naturally don't have the same rights as citizens which is completely normal in every country.
      Furthermore the western settler colonialism BS is BS since a huge portion of Israelis are Middle Eastern and got expelled from Muslim countries. They have nowwhere to return if Israel didn't exist.
      But expulsion of population is only ever a problem for you if it's Arabs expulsed by Jews, not when it's Jews expulsed by Arabs or Arabs expulsed by other Arabs, isn't it?

    • @Kcoldraz
      @Kcoldraz Год назад +4

      I won't call needing different cards to access some parts of Israel equal rights.

    • @sebces2576
      @sebces2576 Год назад +2

      I think that's kind of the point, that the fake wokeness of the PMC falls apart when being woke requires challenging power in a meaningful, material way.

  • @englishsteel-nz6im
    @englishsteel-nz6im Год назад

    Excellent analysis-- subbed.

  • @cubencis
    @cubencis Год назад +3

    Nailed it

  • @kennykallday
    @kennykallday Год назад

    So glad you made another channel. That other one plummeted when you left

  • @BloodyMary74
    @BloodyMary74 Год назад +32

    A war where both sides bring shame to themslves by cruelty to civilians and people don't know who to support? Havent seen that since every war ever. Oppenheimer, the hit of this summer, reminded people that the end of WW2 was no sunshine and rainbows.

    • @msimon6808
      @msimon6808 Год назад

      And then of course there is the shameless appeal to mass murder. Which side does that bring shame on?
      The Muslim Brotherhood allied with Hitler.
      Hamas is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood.

    • @ans5627
      @ans5627 Год назад

      At the risk of sparking a quasi-loyalty litmus test war; I do find it insane to me personally that there is even a dilemma about who people should support.
      One side is a liberal democracy with full free speech, with an arab population that is entirely equal and is participating in the supreme court and the house of representatives doing what needs to be done to defend its people from murderers and rapists (as we seen in 10/7) and another, terror organization that cynically use its own citizens who they govern as props to advance their murderous goals, hiding their weapons under their houses, mosques, and hospitals and so on and so forth.
      Absolutely madness that people seem to have such a difficult moral quandary to a simple moral question.

    • @iopohable
      @iopohable Год назад +6

      yeah but that's not true though... there is israel with the usa military force. and then there's gaza with a rebellious guerrilla force defending against colonialism with rocks and pipe bombs.

    • @ans5627
      @ans5627 Год назад

      @iopohable excpect there is no colonialism. Majority of Palestinians are just as much as colonialist as the jews who escaped Europe death camps and returned to their homeland

  • @TimothyCHenderson
    @TimothyCHenderson Год назад +1

    This parallels Lindsey Ellis's Rent video pretty well.

  • @Kcoldraz
    @Kcoldraz Год назад +12

    That's a bit depressing. Returning to status quo in Palestine sounds horrific. I hope some change will come at least. Since lives was already sacrificed.

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад

      Where you from? Am I even allowed to ask that?

    • @Kcoldraz
      @Kcoldraz Год назад +1

      Philippines why do you ask?

    • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz
      @BrickDaniels-qu7bz Год назад

      @@Kcoldraz It's because I'm a crazy person.

    • @yuvalgabay1023
      @yuvalgabay1023 Год назад +1

      the old status quo wont retune . it cant the pepole of isreal wont allow it

    • @Kcoldraz
      @Kcoldraz Год назад

      I don't know about that. There is a lot of support for the action of the Israeli government. And even if they don't have majority support, the majority don't always get what they want.

  • @Vrandack
    @Vrandack Год назад

    Love the new work my man... good vibes to ya

  • @chancewallace47
    @chancewallace47 Год назад +14

    Jared seems to be riding quite comfortably on that fence.... Lol

    • @msimon6808
      @msimon6808 Год назад

      The Muslim Brotherhood allied with Hitler.
      Hamas is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood.
      Hitler is a perennial favorite.

  • @alangivre2474
    @alangivre2474 Год назад

    Woww, this is actually brilliant, your description.

  • @tinokokota_joy-ir7sy
    @tinokokota_joy-ir7sy Год назад +3

    What is woke? I continue to see people completely misuse and butcher this word and it is frustrating to see.

    • @emptyhad2571
      @emptyhad2571 Год назад

      It’s people who want to bring attention or change to liberal topics such as lgbtq or woman’s rights.

    • @tinokokota_joy-ir7sy
      @tinokokota_joy-ir7sy Год назад

      @@emptyhad2571 why only to that? That's not being woke at all. It has nothing to do with that at all. Complete misuse of the word right there

    • @emptyhad2571
      @emptyhad2571 Год назад

      @@tinokokota_joy-ir7sy sorry I didn’t give full context look up up sorry.

  • @akshayde
    @akshayde Год назад +2

    there is a tech event called websummit and this year the CEO of that, paddy cosgrave, gave his opinions too on this conflict and big ass companies like amazon and siemens have pulled out of the event to be held in november. Paddy had to back track on his comments as well and issue a weak ass apology.
    In the end, all this has shown us is that global inflation and unemployment is so high and money is so tight and people are so financially insecure and POWERLESS (from the regular joe to the celebrity) in front of money that only MONEY wins. America stood up during the vietnam war and look at you now. Capital is king, Capitalism its ruthless enforcer and we are all just bitches!

    • @chinyereugwu9431
      @chinyereugwu9431 Год назад

      Capital is King and Water is Wet. Has been since the dawn of time so nothing new and nothing shown.Those with more have always had the power since the 1st caveman decided to take some left over meat to his cave. America's about as likely to stand up and the Evangelical church is to stand against Israel.

  • @sab5686
    @sab5686 Год назад +12

    as a jewish person thank you so so much for this video. i genuinally feel bad for all civilians who have died and really want a better future. im very scared for the future, not because i see the pro-israel crowd loosing, i understand that, but because jews are in such an awkward position right now and i am worried it is only gonna get worse. its really really lonely and confusing.

    • @danielcarvalho1453
      @danielcarvalho1453 9 месяцев назад

      @hannahmontana-uy1eea bit ignorant to say when the woke mob is generally refusing to condemn Hamas, protesting at a Jewish-established hospital in Canada, searching for Jews and Israelis at a Russian airport, and casually spewing classical antisemitism toward diaspora Jews who have nothing to do with Israel. Ironically, this only pushes diaspora Jews to immigrate to Israel since they feel unsafe in progressive woke Western cities.

    • @nicholas8785
      @nicholas8785 4 месяца назад +4

      It could be worse. Instead of feeling awkward you could be one of the over 14,000 Palestinian children slaughtered by Israel.

  • @Jolezloba
    @Jolezloba Год назад

    I clicked on one of the videos thibking it was Carefree Wandering, and I am glad you also follow the channel :)

  • @explainingpolitics
    @explainingpolitics Год назад +42

    I grew up a Democrat in California and Washington. I was the most leftist person I knew until I went to college, and then the Left left me. I studied international relations so I would challenge the left on issues of national and international security - so now that so many others on the left are experiencing this now, I very keenly recognize it as what I went through for not toeing the party line in 2019.

    • @FredEdeXIII
      @FredEdeXIII Год назад +1

      The Democratic Party is not equal to leftism. It's literally that simple

    • @dunnowy123
      @dunnowy123 Год назад

      International relations completely blows up domestic woke ideology. At the end of the day, the International system is a jungle where the strong ultimately call the shots. The weak get ahead by attaching themselves to the strong, not by fundamentally challenging the system. Even the big "anti status quo powers", i.e. the USSR or China, fundamentally are oppressive big powers in their own right.

    • @jrmorales86
      @jrmorales86 Год назад

      lmao democrats aren't left, center right more like it

    • @reform-revolution
      @reform-revolution Год назад +13

      and then everyone clapped ......

    • @KarlSnarks
      @KarlSnarks Год назад

      The left didn't "leave them" though, they just stopped holding positions that are consistent with the underlying egalitarian values of leftism.

  • @yuuka926
    @yuuka926 Год назад

    Fantastic analysis. Great job.

  • @BasedVegeta
    @BasedVegeta Год назад +3

    12:55 Wtf does Barbie have ANYTHING to do with this topic dude?! Wtf are you even on about?!

  • @zinccull
    @zinccull Год назад +9

    My problem with the straw analogy is that it doesn't take into account the range of responses to the perceived problem. Plastic straws, though minuscule in the scope of CO2 emissions and harm to the environment relative to the bigger problems they are proxies for, are a problem that a typical person could understand and do something about. Paper straws are a possible solution, but there are several others and without also examining those possibilities, the paper straw becomes nothing more than a (paper) straw-man argument. One could forgo using straws altogether, there are reusable plastic straws, and there are long lasting metal straws. There may well be other options as well. My family went to metal straws a long time ago, and while not as convenient as disposable plastic, are fine. Thus, if paper straws are wokeness run amok (performative self-flagulation), and plastic disposable straws represent corporate incentives to put short term profits over the long term health of people and the world, what are the other other responses? Is there ever a well-intentioned, reasoned response that can not be trivially cast as merely short term self-interested and performative?

    • @zhanpengwang3036
      @zhanpengwang3036 Год назад +1

      Whatever straw does not change the fact most 1use cup are made of plastic. Stop ignoring the elephant in the room

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 10 месяцев назад +1

    Israel vs. Palestine is to the left what Ukraine is to the right.

  • @mr.benchwormer7723
    @mr.benchwormer7723 Год назад +4

    No one ever embraces the word “woke”. Woke is simply “everything i hate or disagree with” is woke

    • @SKY_FATH3R
      @SKY_FATH3R Год назад +2

      It used to not have a totally negative connotation

    • @mr.benchwormer7723
      @mr.benchwormer7723 Год назад +3

      @@SKY_FATH3R That quickly changed when Right wingers needed a new buzz word to use against liberals. which they were very successful in doing so

    • @SKY_FATH3R
      @SKY_FATH3R Год назад

      @@mr.benchwormer7723 very successful would still somehow be an understatement, friend

    • @danielcarvalho1453
      @danielcarvalho1453 9 месяцев назад

      Woke is promoting everything considered "marginal" in American society and culture.

  • @lionheart4424
    @lionheart4424 Год назад

    Great video Jared! And so on and so on...

  • @redgreen2453
    @redgreen2453 Год назад +20

    Idk I think there are at least a some middle class people who support leftist ideology because they actually believe in it not just because “wokeness helps you move up.” Honestly, there’s still a lot of places in the country where that’s not even the case

    • @ChrisGuerra31
      @ChrisGuerra31 Год назад +7

      Being "woke" has definitely moved me down, at least socially. Nobody really cared when I was Mormon, but as soon as I started bringing up socialist talking points I felt a surprisingly sharp backlash, and have since exited social media platforms that the rest of my family is still very active with. And then to my dismay, friends will bring up the exact same issues I get preachy about and receive praise simply because they framed their criticism from a more right-wing perspective.

    • @jerrodshack7610
      @jerrodshack7610 Год назад

      This is how most people are. "Woke" is a completely poisoned tell that just means "anything the Republican party doesn't like" at this point. Affluent virtue-signaling liberal businesspeople and leftists are very different, but when it comes to "wokeness" they're just lumped in together.
      The term completely kills any chances of nuance the moment you start using it.

    • @jaromchristensen5598
      @jaromchristensen5598 Год назад

      @@ChrisGuerra31 Fancy meeting a fellow exmo here. or at least that's what I'm interpreting about your phrase "when I was Mormon"

    • @PattyOflan88
      @PattyOflan88 Год назад

      ​@@ChrisGuerra31being a socialist isn't 'woke'. Trying to convince children to mutilate themselves, promising happiness, while knowingly recruiting them into a group with larger unalive rates than people in chattel slavery and concentration camps, is.

    • @KarlSnarks
      @KarlSnarks Год назад +1

      Tbf in this video wokeness is more defined as a practice of virtue signaling and condoned cultivated resistance. So if you are a genuine socialist who actually wants radical change, you're not woke just leftist. On the other hand, your point still stands. Wokeness and leftism will be seen as the same in your community, and will move you down socially.
      Also, if your friends gain recognition from bringing up the same point but said differently in a more right-wing way, couldn't you learn from them and use it to your advantage in bringing people over to the left?@@ChrisGuerra31

  • @la9054
    @la9054 Год назад +1

    "Palestine" -> Hamas -> IRAN!

  • @aelfycarcini3992
    @aelfycarcini3992 Год назад +25

    I am from the LGBT community and I was involved in activism for years. Although activism was different then, it was not virtual. Today I have left it, because we fight for non-essential issues. As Mexican, the interests of the group here are to LIVE. To have fundamental rights... Not to force others to "speak inclusively". Or for trans women who have gone through masculine development to compete against cisgender women, which is tremendously unfair.
    The point is that with current "woke", you cannot complain about these absurdities, because they call you a traitor.
    I'm done.
    I hope the "woke" ends so we can fight again for what is really important.

    • @Grysham
      @Grysham Год назад +5

      I feel exactly the same way. While I support LGBTQ+ and Trans rights, I also see that any conversation about problems that left wing politics raises as immediately demonised and the person wanting to discuss it is treated like a Nazi supporter. Then lately I see more and more people who apparently represent left wing ideology baying for blood and violence against those they disagree with, particularly over this conflict in Gaza.
      As a result, I frankly feel like I no longer identify with left wing politics. We have serious things we need to tackle, like Climate and the insane wealth and poverty gap or the globalhousing crisis. Arguing about whether or not to use pronouns is insane, when we have issues affecting all our futures for the worse.
      I'm with you.

    • @irinaiturri
      @irinaiturri Год назад

      the sad part is that division probably will favor the republicans, that right now are much more authoritarian

    • @jerrodshack7610
      @jerrodshack7610 Год назад

      Trans athletes are a non-issue, but you know who made it a huge deal? Not the left. This is the case with practically EVERY meaningless culture war issue. Everybody is minding their own business until conservative pundits decide that it's time to start a new culture war over whatever this week's flavor is. Trans athletes, M&M's not being fuckable enough, critical race theory, "gender ideology" being taught in schools. Always brought up by conservatives and used completely disingenuously against the left.

  • @ricardosantos9960
    @ricardosantos9960 11 месяцев назад

    The laptop class is a fantastic label, I'm stealing it.

  • @unclebobboomergames
    @unclebobboomergames Год назад +14

    End woke? What kind of "made in the heat of a divorce" title is this?

    • @jerrodshack7610
      @jerrodshack7610 Год назад +2

      No idea. Using "woke" unironically to describe ideology is embarrassing.

  • @TapNewo
    @TapNewo Год назад

    thank you for making this video

  • @HumanLiberty
    @HumanLiberty Год назад +8

    That was very interesting. I think the paper straws are to prevent wildlife from choking on plastic and contributing to micro plastics in the ecosystem, and come from a perspective of "it's not much, but it's better than nothing," which perhaps has some merit. It was still a good point though.

    • @alex30425
      @alex30425 Год назад

      Yeah for right wingers they laughed at it because they don’t care that were polluting the planets and it causing negative affects on animals and humans. For me the whole paper straw thing was lame because it didn’t go far enough and was just barely trying to which as you pointed out is what some saw it as. But at the end of the day it didn’t change the status que.

    • @Tential1
      @Tential1 Год назад

      ​@@alex30425you ever consider that maybe, they do care about the planet and animals, and that the reason you think that is you're told that's what they think? You ever actually talked to them? What I notice about the left was, they had contrived notions about right wingers, based on the media. Well I say I noticed, because I was there. It's not until I actually moved to a red state and talked to real people that I realized it's a lie. Also, I got a job working with the top 0.01%. That's probably more important. I actually saw first hand, that so many policies the left institutes to "help" are actually things the top 0.01% thought of, as ways to increase their own wealth. I thought I was so smart, until, I actually went to meetings at work and saw how the info normal people get is not the info you get when you hit the top 0.01%. Nothing you think is real is real. Most things work exactly the opposite of the way you're taught. The academic and news bubble you think makes you smart, is controlled by the top 0.01%. When you are "fighting climate change", you never thought to ask why the richest people on earth are so on board with it? The media tries to make it seem like there's so much opposition but every single major corporation supports it. I can't outright say it, but, just dig yourself.... It's not hard to find. That said, they pick a lucky few to become millionaires and billionaires every year in my industry, so will I ever upset the status quo? Lol... No.

    • @Tential1
      @Tential1 Год назад

      ​@@alex30425to make my point more succinct, take the migration issue america is facing. People believe we want to let migrants in to be compassionate. Yet, there was a time the democratic party had control of the house, senate and presidency, and did nothing about it. Weird... People never bothered to follow the money. I was a hardcore liberal but if you dig deeper into these stances, like health insurance for all, you find it always was for the profit of some industry. Under Obama, we got the affordable care act. Which coincidence, health insurance stocks went to the moon. Health insurance is still not affordable in America. You then have the inflation reduction act, which was really just a climate bill. So tesla, solar stocks, all go to the moon, but yet, nothing really changes. At a certain point, maybe you realize, you're being manipulated to champion ideas that give massive profits for others, while changing nothing.... Now, they want to allow people into the country for "aslyum", interest rates are high and housing prices are beginning to crash. They are increasing demand for housing, reducing affordability of housing, and you can guess the rest... Once you see the game being played with you, you can't unsee it. Most I can say lest they hang me too 😂

  • @ghostdisco7455
    @ghostdisco7455 Год назад +1

    It's interesting that a conflict that has resulted in grisly deaths of innocent people on both sides of the border gets boiled down to a comedy cartoon about too many girls in comic book movies.

  • @shockcat5988
    @shockcat5988 Год назад +4

    I personally think that the next system will have to incorporate the idea that prejudice exists in every culture and every ethnicity, and religion, and have an a system based off of Karl Marx, or something that is still stuck in the 50s diaspora mindset on race relations will eventually fail. This will mean basically, if something is not OK for one group to say either it’s OK for all or none. If one group preaches a value system to another group, but exempt them selves through excuses then it’s time to question them.

    • @KennyPalurintano
      @KennyPalurintano Год назад +6

      It's almost as if all that is needed is for people to actually have principles.
      When one has principles (which literally means "That which comes first"), then consistency is all you need.
      Most people ONLY have social pressures & party/religion/national emotional attachments. They see no problem being anti-war while supporting war, being "pro-life" while supporting genocide, being "pro-choice" while supporting the State (literally the opposite of freedom)

    • @Zerradable
      @Zerradable Год назад +2

      @@KennyPalurintano The majority of humanity definitely have not managed to stablish consitent principles without religion. Honestly, as an agnostic, I don't see how it can be possible without it in a cohesive way for a society as a whole. Excess of determinism definitely fostered religion's downfall in the West, but the absolute dismantlement of determinism nowadays is the downfall of the West in itself.

  • @andrewwinslow9315
    @andrewwinslow9315 Год назад

    5:01 So Prequel Memes has Academic Integrity. Ironic Isn't it

  • @code-garden-games
    @code-garden-games Год назад +16

    Corporations can still be woke while supporting Israel. The woke ideas promoted by corporations are a subset of those held by academics. Many woke academics are anticapitalist, but corporations are obviously not anticapitalist. Also this video implies wokeness necessarily leads to antizionism but I don't think this is the case.
    This is edited: previously I talked about enjoyment as described in the video, but I don't think I understood it properly.

    • @ChrisGuerra31
      @ChrisGuerra31 Год назад +1

      I think I had similar questions before watching the Leftovers podcast episode concerning Israel and Hamas, which pointed out clips on either side of the schism calling for more bloodshed, provoked or not. I think Jared is expressing hope that people who unconditionally support violence from either side are now painting themselves into a corner, and their grift is showing to their supporters. Hopefully people's appeals for de-escalation will win out over those for endless revenge, even though the violent cycle will most likely continue nevertheless, at least for some time.

    • @code-garden-games
      @code-garden-games Год назад +4

      ​@@ChrisGuerra31 I agree with what you are saying but I do not agree that it is what the video is talking about. The video takes a detached point of view where it is not talking about what is happening in this conflict such as more than 1000 Israelis being mercilessly killed by terrorists and 100s still held hostage, as well as the suffering of Gazan civilians.
      I shamefully repeated this detached point of view in my comment. I believe that if Woke (whatever that is) is damaged by this event it will be because of people seeing people downplay or deny the horrific events of October 7. This video seems to think it will be damaged by some people not getting jobs at some companies because of their comments. Ultimately I don't think Woke will have any problems though, as I believe it is very adaptable (especially as Woke is quite a nebulous word.)

    • @msimon6808
      @msimon6808 Год назад

      Not long term. The ideas are incommensurate.
      BTW "woke" is caused by child abuse. Abused children are sexually deviant.

    • @msimon6808
      @msimon6808 Год назад

      @@code-garden-games The real damage is already obvious to those actually looking.
      "I woke up October 7th a Liberal. I went to bed a Conservative." - typical Jewish comment.
      David Mamet feels BETRAYED.
      The election is over.

    • @elisennesh7641
      @elisennesh7641 Год назад

      The people who create and enforce woke in academia are very much antizionist.

  • @bobjohnson3940
    @bobjohnson3940 Год назад

    Thorough, concise, generally a pleasure. Cheers.

  • @marina.chayka
    @marina.chayka Год назад +7

    I'm a Brazilian Jew living in Israel. I've considered myself to be on the Left until a month ago. All I see from my Brazilian "friends", from the universities that I studied, to the people I've worked with. They don't care about the Palestinians, they just hate Jews. I know a 30-31 years old woman who is in a polygamous queer relationship and she openly defended Hamas as a liberation movement and the terrorist attack on the 7th was a win for the poor Gaza children. She actually believes that. There's no way in those people's minds that Jews are not always wrong, always the bad guy, always the oppressor. We've seen this in the Soviet Union, it's nothing new. But still is really fucking weird how people that would be killed by Hamas are supporting Hamas.

    • @ayouberriouch5973
      @ayouberriouch5973 Год назад +3

      But still this doesn't change the fact. That hamas is horrible . But It's nothing compared to Israel's cruelty in the last 75 years.

  • @NieNin427
    @NieNin427 Год назад

    12:03 Wow. You didn‘t have to call me out that much! 😂

  • @belrapture
    @belrapture Год назад +8

    "no scholarly value". 💀

  • @Ionic457
    @Ionic457 11 месяцев назад

    This chanel is utterly brlliant!

  • @simeonmcgrath7276
    @simeonmcgrath7276 Год назад +5

    Jared, your work is fantastic. More people should be exposed to your ideas.

    • @NuanceOverDogma
      @NuanceOverDogma Год назад

      not really. It's grade school philosophy

    • @simeonmcgrath7276
      @simeonmcgrath7276 Год назад +1

      @@NuanceOverDogmawhat? That doesn’t make sense but then I noticed you’re a bitter reply guy all over the comments.
      👍🏻

    • @NuanceOverDogma
      @NuanceOverDogma Год назад

      @@simeonmcgrath7276 please don't cry clueless cult guy who dwells in a narrow minded groupthink echo chamber.

  • @paveluchitel
    @paveluchitel Год назад

    Couldn’t have said it any better. Subscribed.

  • @Gormbauer
    @Gormbauer Год назад +5

    I reject the premise that ‘woke’ ideology is solely based on ‘brownie points’ but agree that often the problem with leftists is the cannibalism from other leftists, and that people have depressingly short memories. The general take from the left in this instance is saying, “hey everyone, war crimes are bad, America shouldn’t just ignore Israel’s war crimes, Hamas is bad but Palestine help, and maybe uncritical support to a conflict spanning centuries is also bad.” (Again, generally speaking).
    This just came off as a reductive take, which parrots Zizek’s reductive take of leftist ideology. I love Wisecrack and your previous work, I’d be excited to see more of your work in the future, but this isn’t it.

    • @imaXkillXya
      @imaXkillXya Год назад

      Woke aka neo Marxist postmodern progressive ideology has some intersectionalism sprinkled in there. Which is all based on oppression Olympics. Oh you are black? 1 point for you. Oh you are black and a woman? 2 points for you. Oh you are a black trans woman? 3 points for you. Oh you a paraplegic neo divergent non binary prefix prime pronoun yee/haw trans species? ♾ points. Intersectionalism in a nutshell

  • @josseantoniocadenavelez7136
    @josseantoniocadenavelez7136 Год назад

    I really enlightenment analysis, thank you !