This scanner uses a reskinned version of the Launch Software like Thinktool and Topdon. If you ask how I know. I have a Launch Pros3+ that I got for 750 during a sale which has topology included. Anyways the software version for GM on my tool is 49.50 which was the same as this tool the Chrysler was also the same. In addition, the interfaces are similar in different menus and options.
Unlikely that you would damage your vehicle if you had to pull the VCI out when trying to read or clear codes or even operate the bi-directional controls. You are not doing anything in the memory that is not overwritable by the computer. The only time you should ever worry when something locks up is if you are updating any firmware which would be when you are programming a module. Which this tool does not do.
I was thinking about the thinktool pros I believe now after using the ICON it would have been a better choice and it’s similar in price point I definitely don’t like the launch Scanners based off the reviews I have seen about the “mall” and how they nickel and dime you for features that would otherwise be included in a normal tool like why do I have to pay an extra $130 a year for tire reset?
@@sergioc2342 The tool is really just the software and the dongle. Theoretically, you could install the software on a different Android tablet and connect it to the dongle.
The icon scan tool has caught my attention and after people use it for a while I might buy one if the results seem good. $900 for a solid scan tool is a pretty good deal especially if you can use the 25% coupons that come around every now and then. I feel like the scan tool subscriptions are a way to screw the techs. They know we need them so they set the price at whatever they want because they know that we will pay it. Kinda like pharmaceutical companies and prescriptions prices.
Trying to decide on buying one for a video myself. Came here to see your comparison. After skipping throughout the video I did not see what I was after although I appreciate your time to create the video. Unsolicited advice- I say, write a script. Plan your shots. Cut out anything unnecessary. Subscribe and watch film booth and creator booth. Your subscriptions don’t match the amount of videos you are pumping out. RUclips needs people like you. I can see you going far, work on thumbnails and editing and scripting. I wish you the best for your channel. Lou
I agree. He has RUclips monetizing potential. Broadcast quality voice, good command of popular lingo, doesn't say too many ah’s and ugh’s, expresses the upsides and downsides of his real-time experience in a moderated way, etc. Practice makes perfect. Grow your fan base and don't burn yourself out.
I just bought the t8 for my new shop and testing out at my current shop and it holds its own vs anything in the shop minus having a lab scope. The interface may not be as user freindly as a snap on d10 which is my other scanner but for the price and lab scope aside it does pretty much the same thing.
every scanner has its place... The T8 is fine. HFT is fixing stuff as it gets reported although I don't believe the topology view is anywhere in sight, I sure hope they fix the live data issue. currently I can't effectively take it on a test drive and scroll through all the PIDs while I'm driving. I need to be able to see only the ones I select that can fit on the screen that's the only issue i'm currently having with it. The D10 is awesome and so far I like it. I have found that no one scanner will do it all which like most guys that work on stuff you end up with 4 or more scan tools.
The problem with all the scan tools except for snapon is, the software is a third party provider. Don't be so concerned with purchase price, check out the on going subscription costs. And what features are removed if you don't update.
yes you spend a grand or more and you do an update and the truck you bought it for no longer works!!! You send them an email and they request info that you have no idea what their talking about! So now you’re having to fix the equipment you bought to fix the truck total BS! I’m going to buy used Snap On at least they speak English!
I agree with you that it should work for all vehicles support by the current update on the device. Also agree the fact that it needs internet connection to do anything. If it doesn't have a way to function without internet it doesn't seem worth it for someone who doesn't want to pay for the subscription. Did you have to pay for a subscription up front for this or were you able to do the initial update without it?
the ICON, it comes with the preloaded subscription like all scanners that Ive ever owned, a one year subscription for updates etc. The Autel came with two years on the one I got. The ICON won't auto VIN scan without internet and current subscription but you can still use the tool if you manually input VIN but to me that's crappy auto vin is a very basic feature, my Autel is crappy on Chrysler FCA vehicles because they won't let you get to the AutoAuth login without the update so I can't even scan a vehicle with it outside active subscription.
Okay this might be a decent option for the hobbyist if it has decent functionality without continuing the subscription. For me, not being an auto tech, hundreds of dollars a year for a subscription isn't worth it for something I use once in a while. I have always wanted a higher end obd scanners with bi directional functions but could stomach the cost. This might be a decent option if they fix some of the issues that you have pointed out should be built into the software. Also the worry about the scanner locking up and unplugging it probably wouldn't brick modules. It's when you are flashing modules and loosing connection that the modules go belly up.
@@Stringmaster413 fyi "loosing" isn't even a word. If my belt is “loose” (rhymes with moose) I could “lose” (rhymes with choose and use) my pants! Maybe I am “losing” (rhymes with cruising) it?
GREAT VIDEO ,,, JUST ORDERED A GLOBAL VERSION AUTEL KM100 . WELL TRY AND SEE IF I CAN SETUP AN AUTOAUTH ACCOUNT TO WORK WITH IT . WAS USING A FRIEND OWN AT THE DEALERSHIP WERE I WORK TODAY AND THE TOOL IS VERY IMPRESSIVE . THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT TO SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE .🙏👍👍👍
Great video!! I have an autel mp 808. It came with two years free updates. It has full bi directional and can access 2024 Chrysler products. My subscription ends this year so I will either be forced to pay it or say goodbye to the bi directional control. Cheers 🇨🇦
I think when it’s locking up on loading, your forgetting to put the key in “run”. Noticed it twice, maybe I’m wrong but I noticed the one time you did the car chimes where going off. Not the open door chum, the run chim
@@rvtechpro you mentioned you have an im508 right? Why didn't you use the diagnostic side of that tool on the vehicle and why isn't it listed in your auto auth account?
Yeah that part where it said download file is where it was trying to download from autoauth secure gateway server once u find way to register it will download fairly quickly then take u to login autoauth page
HI! I was debating on purchasing an Autel or T8, can the Autel still work with anything before the update or does it completely shut down? It has been a couple of months. Has Icon been registered with FCA's Autoauth? Any feedback would be great! Do you have any other suggestions for scanners?
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH HYUNDAI SMARTRA MODULES ,,, I THINK THERE THE IMMO MODULE FOR THE HYUNDAI CARS . IS THERE ANY WAY OF DEALING WITH THEM WHEN THEY GIVE YOU A CODE OF INVALID ON AN IMMO SCAN OR MUST IT BE REPLACED ???????????????
from my perspective your may differ there are a few reasons that would be a bad idea, 1. the hardware is outdated. 2. Features such as ADAS still is non existent in the 5 year old Autel. 3. It would actually cost more to update the current scanner because the update is for 1 year and the new ICON scanner comes with 2 years of subscription so that would be $1200 for the MP808TS to compare to the ICON. Besides all of that I like new things.
take a job as a PDI technician at your local RV dealership as a dealer tech you will get the training and experience you need to go independently latter in life and make six figures easily.
yeah that's what that other DLC harness is for that I did not know about I looked on the website : Comprehensive Compatibility Including OBDII, FCA Secure Gateway, DoIP, CAN FD, and ADAS
having 3 autel scan tools all dead by different means like ms906 went buggy so i restored to factory just to wipe tablet??? BT906 an upgrade to lose cord yet only works if vci is plugged into tablet ,, the ts508 is an error machine!!! autel warranty is garbage just a regurgitation of subscription priority ,, but why would you invest more in what was under their socalled sub warranty never fixed or addressed!!! Autel is a decent scan tool with built in obsolesence features for exrta cost to cunsumer!!! between their failed warrant and proprietary data theft lawsuit you have a sort of rebranding of OTOFIX emerging !!!!! becareful of any computer that wipes useability on restore to factory!!!!!!!!!!!!
Restore to good NAND backup. I’ve never had a problem with any Autel’s and at my old shop we used them there as the main tool still running strong. After updating each year and while the tool is working well create a NAND backup file after that is made that is your restore file I personally would never try to take an older scan tool back to unsupported system software seems like I would be asking for trouble instead restoring to last known working NAND is a better option in my opinion thanks for watching bro
@@rvtechpro MaxiSys MS906 BT Serial number: VB8GKAV01049 Registered on: 02/11/2021 Warranty : 02/11/2022 RGA Software upgrade service expires on: 02/11/2022 (Expired) Period: (Year) 1 695.0 USD/Year MaxiSys MS906 Serial number: DS8G70102047 Registered on: 04/18/2017 Warranty : 04/18/2018 Software upgrade service expires on: 09/18/2021 (Expired) Period: (Year) 1 495.0 USD/Year my tools like yours wasn't free so why would a tool have a restore to factory funtion only to wipe service!!! i got on for your opinions yet you didn't answer my question you complained about sub price vs new tool yet tell me i shouldve backed up not using the tools function???
n what planet does a restore function wipe usability? do you need pictures of tool settings? restore a pc/laptop/tablet/phone/ipod/ipad etc all use the funtion correctly yet Autel wipes??
Autel dose not make tablets Autel is not a tablets OS, its just one of many apps that run on your android tablet the hardware simply facilitated the OS and the OS facilitates the individual software application the Autel application is not the hardware OS so I really don't see how in your example of "restore a pc/laptop/tablet/phone/ipod/ipad etc all use the funtion correctly yet Autel wipes?" Autel's software dose not have that level of access it's just an app running on android OS which is the operating system that directly interfaces with the hardware (tablet) so back up your "app data" and uninstall and reinstall the app "not" the OS which naturally has the drivers that facilitate hardware functionality like your VCI serial ports, touch screen ect. Ive never had a problem but here again I back up my NAND (app data) but anyway; whatever, to each there own bro.@@badwabbit1973
you are not wrong ; but its getting better with updates and they have taken the price down 100$ I personally have many scan tools so its not a big deal to me; when I got the triton d10 its like 10K so in perspective of this, the T8 is cheap, however as I stated in my videos for someone who will be buying their one and only scan tool I would not recommend the T8 and the updates are going to be overpriced as well.
@@Shonensama Have friends that work at HF and when I visit them at their store they show me the latest tools and gadgets they receive in advanced to try them out for feedback and input back to corporate. I get to play with them and I'll tell you the T10 is a rebranded $1,000 level Autel scanner with a few special features not found in other scanners but still nothing to be amazed. The Phoenix Plus still goes circles against these Icon scanners.
This scanner uses a reskinned version of the Launch Software like Thinktool and Topdon. If you ask how I know. I have a Launch Pros3+ that I got for 750 during a sale which has topology included. Anyways the software version for GM on my tool is 49.50 which was the same as this tool the Chrysler was also the same. In addition, the interfaces are similar in different menus and options.
Unlikely that you would damage your vehicle if you had to pull the VCI out when trying to read or clear codes or even operate the bi-directional controls. You are not doing anything in the memory that is not overwritable by the computer. The only time you should ever worry when something locks up is if you are updating any firmware which would be when you are programming a module. Which this tool does not do.
@@ChiefDLK right on 👍
I was thinking about the thinktool pros I believe now after using the ICON it would have been a better choice and it’s similar in price point I definitely don’t like the launch Scanners based off the reviews I have seen about the “mall” and how they nickel and dime you for features that would otherwise be included in a normal tool like why do I have to pay an extra $130 a year for tire reset?
@rvtechpro I really liked my thinktool pro, but it only lasted me a year and it wouldn't charge any more and no shop would fix it.
@@sergioc2342 The tool is really just the software and the dongle. Theoretically, you could install the software on a different Android tablet and connect it to the dongle.
The icon scan tool has caught my attention and after people use it for a while I might buy one if the results seem good. $900 for a solid scan tool is a pretty good deal especially if you can use the 25% coupons that come around every now and then. I feel like the scan tool subscriptions are a way to screw the techs. They know we need them so they set the price at whatever they want because they know that we will pay it. Kinda like pharmaceutical companies and prescriptions prices.
yup totally not cool
Trying to decide on buying one for a video myself. Came here to see your comparison. After skipping throughout the video I did not see what I was after although I appreciate your time to create the video. Unsolicited advice- I say, write a script. Plan your shots. Cut out anything unnecessary. Subscribe and watch film booth and creator booth. Your subscriptions don’t match the amount of videos you are pumping out. RUclips needs people like you. I can see you going far, work on thumbnails and editing and scripting. I wish you the best for your channel. Lou
thanks for watching Lou!
I agree. He has RUclips monetizing potential. Broadcast quality voice, good command of popular lingo, doesn't say too many ah’s and ugh’s, expresses the upsides and downsides of his real-time experience in a moderated way, etc. Practice makes perfect. Grow your fan base and don't burn yourself out.
Icon v topdon v autel
There are tons of generic Chinese ones, these r the three off brands I’d be willing to watch reviews on and try. Thx fir the vid
Be interesting to eee which ones have free updates, free makes and models, subscriptions , monthly or yearly.
thanks for watching
I just bought the t8 for my new shop and testing out at my current shop and it holds its own vs anything in the shop minus having a lab scope. The interface may not be as user freindly as a snap on d10 which is my other scanner but for the price and lab scope aside it does pretty much the same thing.
every scanner has its place... The T8 is fine. HFT is fixing stuff as it gets reported although I don't believe the topology view is anywhere in sight, I sure hope they fix the live data issue. currently I can't effectively take it on a test drive and scroll through all the PIDs while I'm driving. I need to be able to see only the ones I select that can fit on the screen that's the only issue i'm currently having with it. The D10 is awesome and so far I like it. I have found that no one scanner will do it all which like most guys that work on stuff you end up with 4 or more scan tools.
The problem with all the scan tools except for snapon is, the software is a third party provider. Don't be so concerned with purchase price, check out the on going subscription costs. And what features are removed if you don't update.
thanks for watching
yes you spend a grand or more and you do an update and the truck you bought it for no longer works!!! You send them an email and they request info that you have no idea what their talking about! So now you’re having to fix the equipment you bought to fix the truck total BS!
I’m going to buy used Snap On at least they speak English!
Great video. Most thorough one I’ve seen on this scanner yet
Thanks for watching
I agree with you that it should work for all vehicles support by the current update on the device. Also agree the fact that it needs internet connection to do anything. If it doesn't have a way to function without internet it doesn't seem worth it for someone who doesn't want to pay for the subscription. Did you have to pay for a subscription up front for this or were you able to do the initial update without it?
the ICON, it comes with the preloaded subscription like all scanners that Ive ever owned, a one year subscription for updates etc. The Autel came with two years on the one I got. The ICON won't auto VIN scan without internet and current subscription but you can still use the tool if you manually input VIN but to me that's crappy auto vin is a very basic feature, my Autel is crappy on Chrysler FCA vehicles because they won't let you get to the AutoAuth login without the update so I can't even scan a vehicle with it outside active subscription.
Okay this might be a decent option for the hobbyist if it has decent functionality without continuing the subscription. For me, not being an auto tech, hundreds of dollars a year for a subscription isn't worth it for something I use once in a while. I have always wanted a higher end obd scanners with bi directional functions but could stomach the cost. This might be a decent option if they fix some of the issues that you have pointed out should be built into the software. Also the worry about the scanner locking up and unplugging it probably wouldn't brick modules. It's when you are flashing modules and loosing connection that the modules go belly up.
@@Stringmaster413 yeah I can’t recommend it to people until they address a few major issues in my opinion
@@Stringmaster413 fyi "loosing" isn't even a word. If my belt is “loose” (rhymes with moose) I could “lose” (rhymes with choose and use) my pants! Maybe I am “losing” (rhymes with cruising) it?
GREAT VIDEO ,,, JUST ORDERED A GLOBAL VERSION AUTEL KM100 . WELL TRY AND SEE IF I CAN SETUP AN AUTOAUTH ACCOUNT TO WORK WITH IT . WAS USING A FRIEND OWN AT THE DEALERSHIP WERE I WORK TODAY AND THE TOOL IS VERY IMPRESSIVE . THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT TO SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE .🙏👍👍👍
right on man!
Great video!! I have an autel mp 808. It came with two years free updates. It has full bi directional and can access 2024 Chrysler products. My subscription ends this year so I will either be forced to pay it or say goodbye to the bi directional control. Cheers 🇨🇦
thanks for watching
Dude glad to hear your back on Destiny, and with this crap weather we are all on "buffering" mode😂
Tell me about it
Try registering it in autoauth as topdon or launch
they have fixed it now
I think when it’s locking up on loading, your forgetting to put the key in “run”. Noticed it twice, maybe I’m wrong but I noticed the one time you did the car chimes where going off. Not the open door chum, the run chim
thanks for watching
Maybe right I have not had the issue anymore after updating tool again
If I do not own a shop or I do not work at a shop, can I still register a scan tool with Auto Auth?
Thank you
Yes
why didn't you use your IM508 diag side? It's not even added into your Auto Auth?
I don't understand the question
@@rvtechpro you mentioned you have an im508 right? Why didn't you use the diagnostic side of that tool on the vehicle and why isn't it listed in your auto auth account?
Autel should scan this easy, it does on every other charger lol, thx for vid.
thanks for watching
Yeah that part where it said download file is where it was trying to download from autoauth secure gateway server once u find way to register it will download fairly quickly then take u to login autoauth page
right on man
How you. Get a gateway conector
Amazon
How well does this work with newer fords
I have not used it on any new fords
Do You have to be connected to the internet for it to scan?
no
Do more expensive autells have this problem too??
@@itsmisterchris what’s that?
HI! I was debating on purchasing an Autel or T8, can the Autel still work with anything before the update or does it completely shut down? It has been a couple of months. Has Icon been registered with FCA's Autoauth? Any feedback would be great! Do you have any other suggestions for scanners?
just buy the best Autel you can I like that "think tool pros" too but don't know if it can bypass the secure gateway. ICON T8 is on the gateway
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH HYUNDAI SMARTRA MODULES ,,, I THINK THERE THE IMMO MODULE FOR THE HYUNDAI CARS . IS THERE ANY WAY OF DEALING WITH THEM WHEN THEY GIVE YOU A CODE OF INVALID ON AN IMMO SCAN OR MUST IT BE REPLACED ???????????????
I don't know bro ruclips.net/channel/UC2y0n6_OLbWAh_e2JSFC7Ng this guy might @welliott780
Thanks for the review
No problem 👍
would be cheaper just to pay 600.00 and update your autel. it's all good
from my perspective your may differ there are a few reasons that would be a bad idea, 1. the hardware is outdated. 2. Features such as ADAS still is non existent in the 5 year old Autel. 3. It would actually cost more to update the current scanner because the update is for 1 year and the new ICON scanner comes with 2 years of subscription so that would be $1200 for the MP808TS to compare to the ICON. Besides all of that I like new things.
My Autel MK908 Pro 2 does Chrysler, and its European, but yes these updates are expensive as heck
@@davidboughman138 thanks for watching
@@rvtechpro I wish now I had waited and paid less money and less on updates. I didn't need it that bad, but that's life. I am just learning
Great video
Thanks!
@24:20 ahhh the Old Dirty Bastard port...lol
thanks for watching
Acute holding you ransom unless you cough up that cash money-money ain't so cute!
thanks for watching
Does this scanner require you to pay annually like the Autel does?
Yes
@@rvtechprohow much is it?
$500 im guessing
Damn the 808bt is only $109 only difference is the tpms which if you just buy the autel tpms tool lifetime free updates
thanks for watching
good escaner amigo mui bien
gracias por mirar, me alegro que te haya gustado el escáner
Can it do abs diagnostic and electric brakes release
Yes
You’re asking those type of stupid questions you didn’t do your homework don’t ask the world research yourself
@@CharlesLease-ei1ee get some bitches frrr dawg!!
@@CharlesLease-ei1ee get a life
Nic video bro!! Appreciate you!
Appreciate it!
How do i start working on rvs!
take a job as a PDI technician at your local RV dealership as a dealer tech you will get the training and experience you need to go independently latter in life and make six figures easily.
would like to ask u sense u do dodge Chrysler does the new icon or Ancel max pro rewrite vin number??
I don't know about the ICON but I know my Autel can
do u have the model number of the Autel that your talking about? @@rvtechpro
what model number Autel does the vin rewrite@@rvtechpro
@@lloyddecker2965 Elite ruclips.net/video/wMaDFMqun_c/видео.htmlsi=BrRDl-ci5FwSQd8R
Commenting on the video for the algorithm
right on man
Could’ve used the 25%off coupon and saved $225
no I could not: because besides the fact that these are not really for sale yet, that coupon expired on new years day. Thanks for watching.
How much
for what?
Unless u just have to use bypass and canfd adopters
yeah that's what that other DLC harness is for that I did not know about I looked on the website : Comprehensive Compatibility Including OBDII, FCA Secure Gateway, DoIP, CAN FD, and ADAS
Destiny 2 let's Raid!
Ohh yeah!
having 3 autel scan tools all dead by different means like ms906 went buggy so i restored to factory just to wipe tablet??? BT906 an upgrade to lose cord yet only works if vci is plugged into tablet ,, the ts508 is an error machine!!! autel warranty is garbage just a regurgitation of subscription priority ,, but why would you invest more in what was under their socalled sub warranty never fixed or addressed!!! Autel is a decent scan tool with built in obsolesence features for exrta cost to cunsumer!!! between their failed warrant and proprietary data theft lawsuit you have a sort of rebranding of OTOFIX emerging !!!!! becareful of any computer that wipes useability on restore to factory!!!!!!!!!!!!
Restore to good NAND backup. I’ve never had a problem with any Autel’s and at my old shop we used them there as the main tool still running strong. After updating each year and while the tool is working well create a NAND backup file after that is made that is your restore file I personally would never try to take an older scan tool back to unsupported system software seems like I would be asking for trouble instead restoring to last known working NAND is a better option in my opinion thanks for watching bro
@@rvtechpro
MaxiSys MS906 BT
Serial number: VB8GKAV01049 Registered on: 02/11/2021
Warranty : 02/11/2022 RGA
Software upgrade service expires on: 02/11/2022 (Expired)
Period: (Year)
1
695.0 USD/Year
MaxiSys MS906
Serial number: DS8G70102047 Registered on: 04/18/2017
Warranty : 04/18/2018
Software upgrade service expires on: 09/18/2021 (Expired)
Period: (Year)
1
495.0 USD/Year my tools like yours wasn't free so why would a tool have a restore to factory funtion only to wipe service!!! i got on for your opinions yet you didn't answer my question you complained about sub price vs new tool yet tell me i shouldve backed up not using the tools function???
n what planet does a restore function wipe usability? do you need pictures of tool settings? restore a pc/laptop/tablet/phone/ipod/ipad etc all use the funtion correctly yet Autel wipes??
Autel dose not make tablets Autel is not a tablets OS, its just one of many apps that run on your android tablet the hardware simply facilitated the OS and the OS facilitates the individual software application the Autel application is not the hardware OS so I really don't see how in your example of "restore a pc/laptop/tablet/phone/ipod/ipad etc all use the funtion correctly yet Autel wipes?" Autel's software dose not have that level of access it's just an app running on android OS which is the operating system that directly interfaces with the hardware (tablet) so back up your "app data" and uninstall and reinstall the app "not" the OS which naturally has the drivers that facilitate hardware functionality like your VCI serial ports, touch screen ect. Ive never had a problem but here again I back up my NAND (app data) but anyway; whatever, to each there own bro.@@badwabbit1973
Icon T8 is over priced and full of glitches.
you are not wrong ; but its getting better with updates and they have taken the price down 100$ I personally have many scan tools so its not a big deal to me; when I got the triton d10 its like 10K so in perspective of this, the T8 is cheap, however as I stated in my videos for someone who will be buying their one and only scan tool I would not recommend the T8 and the updates are going to be overpriced as well.
Totally biased review.
thanks for watching mate
It didn't work, often. If anything he was patient, way more than most would be with a $971 paper weight.
Use that 25% or 30% Off coupon to drop the price!
thanks for watching
My Topdon Phoenix Plus is still superior than this Icon or even their T10 coming out and way cheaper in price!
right on man thanks for watching, what's the model number
Just search the model name and they are about the same price as the T8. Maybe this guy got a deal.
hey man I took a look at the Phoenix about 1200 I say that's good price, how are you handling the secure gateways with that scanner for FCA vehicles?
How can you approximate the t10s capability if it’s not even out yet
@@Shonensama Have friends that work at HF and when I visit them at their store they show me the latest tools and gadgets they receive in advanced to try them out for feedback and input back to corporate. I get to play with them and I'll tell you the T10 is a rebranded $1,000 level Autel scanner with a few special features not found in other scanners but still nothing to be amazed. The Phoenix Plus still goes circles against these Icon scanners.