How Lactobacillus affects a cooling compost pile

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  • Опубликовано: 25 фев 2023
  • #lactobacillus #compost #seaweed
    We have some interesting in month 3 of our winter compost experiment. After adding LAB that we made very inexpensively, we saw instant results.
    ‪@flowerfolkfarm3553‬ ‪@TheWeedyGarden‬ ‪@myrustygarden‬
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  • @another8125
    @another8125 Год назад +5

    Oh what an outstanding video concept, spring hasn't even kicked in and your compost is almost ready, when it warms up can only imagine the epic level of worm activity LAB inoculation rapid breakdown, I added LAB to my manure piles but didn't quite record the outcomes, i'd imagine if you cover it, it'd break the manure down and make it plant nutrient ready within 2 weeks? I've found the worms LOVE bokashi, not sure why content creators say its too acidic for them? Probably needs to be looked into, honestly, im at the point where i need food scraps because bokashi is such a hit.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      We've had great success with Bokashi as well !! In fact, we made bokashi from Lab and added early on to this pile!!
      Wait until you see the next couple videos, I'll be incorporating Vermicomposting to finish this pike, albeit it's happening already but stike for the next steps once the pile cools a bit :)
      We trialed lab against Super Soil and other amendments on lettuce last spring, and it held its own!!! Tons of fantastic uses for it !!
      Thanks for the amazing comments, we Pinned it for others to see !!
      Cheers Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛💪

  • @coloradotulips
    @coloradotulips Год назад +1

    Looking forward to watching more of your experiments!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks a million, we're super new to all this but love it, especially doing it together!!
      Where do you live in Colorado? We love it down there!!
      Cheers from Victoria Canada
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞👍😊

  • @itsasickness4939
    @itsasickness4939 Год назад +4

    Nicely done. I’ve been doing KNF for about 4 years and I’m still finding new uses for LAB. Most recently cleaning silver jewelry. Anyway back to compost…. I use LAB from start to finish in all my composting. It helps retain nutrients during the thermophilic stage when most of the nitrogenous inputs would otherwise burn off, it helps keep temperature in the 130 range longer, heats up quicker, matures faster and controls smell. I use it to Bokashi all my “uncompostable” household waste and weeds that have gone to seed and then hot compost them. As long as you start with enough carbon you should smell nothing when adding Bokashi to your hot compost. It also makes your compost nutrients more bio available to the plants you grow. You can even wrap up a LAB drenched compost heap in plastic to exclude oxygen and let it sit for 3 months with no flipping (Bokashi Compost) and have an amazing transformation. Lactobacillus is a facultative bacteria that work in both oxygenated and non oxygenated environments so it works in all types of compost approaches. I also have worm bins and since adding LAB they grow larger and eat faster. Soil drench, foliar feed etc… however you decide to use it you will see results.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      This is fantastic!! We used bokashi bran to basically close the loop on household waste last year. I learned the hard way 🤢lol, but there that became sold on it. We used it in lettuce trials, powdery mildew, and now composting to great success. I to made a thistle, seaweed LAB "stew" last year and it was fantastic!!
      I wanted to use it in isolation to see for myself, and it's hard to dispute our graph. That being said, increased moisture, the N from the kelp becoming available, and aerating the pile all played roles. But it was great to see. I've only been gardening/composting for coming up 2 years, and the marriage of chemistry, biology, soil structures, and textures is fascinating to me !!
      Thanks for such a thorough comment, we totally appreciate it!!
      Cheers from Victoria Canada
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱😁

    • @itsasickness4939
      @itsasickness4939 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden you are totally welcome, from New Orleans La USA

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      I've been to New Orleans, loved it down there !!
      How long have you been gardening for ?

    • @itsasickness4939
      @itsasickness4939 Год назад +2

      @@clivesconundrumgarden I grew up with my home surrounded by corn fields and sugarcane of that gives you any idea. My career prevented it for a while but I got back into it about 20 years ago, about 10 years ago I started transitioning into organic and 4-5 years ago found KNF and haven’t looked back since. Like you said the whole soil biology part fascinates me and seeing the results is 100% confirmation. Plus the taste, omg the flavor and Brix of my fruit and veg is off the charts. My wife thinks KNF is nerdy but she will be the first one to brag about our garden. Go figure

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      @Itsasickness dang!! That's amazing!! Even the wife can't argue against Nutrient density:)
      We're just "dipping our toes in" but definitely looking forward to the journey:)
      Cheers 🤜🤛

  • @simplyoffgrid-australia
    @simplyoffgrid-australia Год назад +2

    I’m blown away at how well the LAB worked.
    Very nice camera shots of moving the pile.
    We love 💕 Anita from flower folk farm. Just a beautiful person.
    We’ve just recently started watching the weedy garden aswell.
    Thanks guys. Always love seeing the compost updates.
    Cheers Deb & Dan

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      We were one of Weedy's first thousand subs, we don't know how, but amazingly, the algorithm actually brought joy for once 🤣
      Anita is the best !! Here, videos on LAB are fabulous, and she stressed the point of "do your homework."
      The more people we chat with, the more I think it was the combination of 3 main factors : Moisture released by kelp, aerating the pile and the LAB.
      We've definitely see results in lettuce trials, making our own Bokashi and fighting off powdery mildew:)
      Cheers Guys !!
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛

    • @flowerfolkfarm3553
      @flowerfolkfarm3553 Год назад +1

      Awwww love you guys right back you beautiful people!!! Xxoo 💓💐💓

    • @simplyoffgrid-australia
      @simplyoffgrid-australia Год назад +1

      @@flowerfolkfarm3553 💕🌺

  • @beesandseeds
    @beesandseeds Год назад +1

    Very informative. I love your experiments. Very impressive. I’d not heard of Lab. Thank you

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Super cheap, easy to make and so many uses. We've used on powdery mildew, on lettuces, bokashi and now compost to great success.
      Anita at Flower Folk Farm swears by it !!
      Have a great week!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @northeastworms
    @northeastworms Год назад +1

    Great great, works. You guys are one of my favorite RUclips channels in the world. You deserve millions of views

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      My Man, then we wouldn't be able to have time to have such great conversations with people like you :))))
      Hope you're doing awesome Gaetano!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛😁

  • @TheOldSwedesFarm
    @TheOldSwedesFarm Год назад +2

    Your seaweed has really helped things. It'll be fun to see how the LAB affects the compost. You've got a great, active pile going!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      It'll be interesting to see how it goes but I'm so glad we tracked the temps. The graph definitely shows the combination of amnendments definitely increased temps, not that was the point. But I'll definitely continue to make LAB foresure.
      Cheers Rich 🌱🤞🌱🤔😊

  • @peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920
    @peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920 Год назад +2

    Good early morning show! I was up before 4a.m and watching you 👍❤️
    Anita at Flowerfolk Farms is wonderful and worth watching.
    I just subscribed to Ali at The Rusty Garden
    Sandra is my Go-to Girl on all things Worms and Science
    We stand with Brain Giants! 🧠 I'm just following along and trying to get a little knowledge to rub off on me ❤️
    Great video and super looking compost 👍

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      That's an army of knowledge we're lucky enough to learn from !!
      It's so great learning from others and making improvements ourselves!!
      Alu lives just across the water on mainland from us :)
      Have a great week Peggy and STAY AWESOME!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

    • @peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920
      @peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden Alison is a Hoot! I immediately liked her 👍

  • @LittleGardenBigDreams
    @LittleGardenBigDreams Год назад +2

    Yeah the LAB is great… Anita gave me some and it works wonders xx Cathi xx 😘

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Cool Cathi !! We're rookies but definitely seen results with it !! And bonus that you can keep your drains clear 🤣
      Hope you have a great week!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
    @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 Год назад +1

    Nice experiment with the beneficial bacteria. A great informative video. Professor Jason in action.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks Tom, I'm learning a ton from people like you. It more enjoyable than gardening to me :)))
      Have a great day Tom !!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @terrykingsallotmentgardening
    @terrykingsallotmentgardening Год назад +2

    When my compost bin rots completely I may turn that area into a two bin turning area, impossible to do at the moment. Lovely update Jason and I will be putting my pond weed in my bin in the future.
    ♻️Happy gardening, Terry King.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      Sandra will be chuffed about the Pond idea !! What a great group of people !!
      Honestly, Terry, I'd love to have your system. It's kinda of a perfect combination of hot and lazy composting, with the added benefits of massive amounts of worms!!
      That being said, as we get "more experienced" in life, as wise man once said, "it's good to think about the future, and how we can make things easier on our bodies"
      That's a pretty tight area. Perhaps having vertical doors that you could swing down and harvest from the side would save you jumping in and harvesting? As usual, it's clear in my head, but it is difficult to explain lol !!
      Thanks for all your shared experiences and support. It really means alot !!
      Cheers J&C 🌱👑🤔🤞🌱😊😊😊

    • @terrykingsallotmentgardening
      @terrykingsallotmentgardening Год назад +2

      @@clivesconundrumgarden you mentioned that your bin hadn't lost its bulk, maybe because you turned it regularly to add air.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      @Terry King's Allotment Gardening On A Budget hmmmm, I hadn't considered that, but it makes a ton of sense. The only thing is, we've turned all our piles, and this one's unique in that regard. This one had a much higher "brown" ratio than others, especially our spring and summer ones...
      Food for thought!!
      Thanks Terry 🌱👑✒️📜💪

  • @kitchenGardenofficalchannel027
    @kitchenGardenofficalchannel027 Год назад +1

    Great sharing Nice your video nice your speak great video my dear friend❤ god bless you stay connected❤

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks !! It's been a great and fun project!!
      Have a great week!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @Vermicompost
    @Vermicompost Год назад +1

    Very interesting about the worms & the unwashed ocean seaweed! Love the chart!! That LAB really shot the temps up!!🪱🪱🪱

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      It's pretty crazy but the more comments I get, the more I'm leaning to "maybe" on the LAB. I think there's no doubt lab helped, but I think the material absorbing the water from the kelp and aerating it also set it off. Definitely will have a more controlled test down the road. Can't wait for the next step. 🪱🪱🪱
      Have a great week brother
      Let's gooooo!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🪱🌱🤜🤛

  • @MBHeritageFarms
    @MBHeritageFarms Год назад +1

    New friends here, and this was a great video. 👍 thanks for this. Have a great week

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      Thanks, Michael!! Major Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing and wouldn't suggest anyone take us seriously lol.
      We're super new to all this but love, especially doing it together!!
      Cheers Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱😊🤜🤛
      My name is Jason. It's super confusing and a long story lol

  • @sowgroweat6987
    @sowgroweat6987 Год назад +3

    Very interesting, even though I champion Seaweed, it did surprise me how quick your Kelp (much bigger than the UK version) broke down. The carbon dominated composts definitely hold their mass much better, and I look forward to see how they perform in the garden. That Lab treatment is of very great interest, thanks for introducing that element as it is unknown to me.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      This made. My day coming from you Mike!! To be honest, it's probably a combination of the N in the kelp becoming available, the massive moisture increase, and aerating. Although it's hard to get around the graph. I'm really fascinated by it and plan on running trials in a more control/singular approach in the future.
      It's incredible to my how long it's stayed "active" for considering the CN ratio. Lots of takeaways, albeit a little "blurry" atm!!
      Thanks for your observations and shared experience:)
      Means a lot !!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛😊

  • @daveshanks8205
    @daveshanks8205 Год назад +1

    Well that was very interesting, thanks for the video

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thank you, Dave. I'm a bit blown away by the increase in temperatures !! We'll see how the next few weeks go !!
      Vermicomposting next stage 🤞🤞🤞
      Thanks again for the comment, we totally appreciate it!!
      Cheers 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛

  • @flowerfolkfarm3553
    @flowerfolkfarm3553 Год назад +1

    Wow!!! Just wow!!! AWESOMENESS!!! Black gold 🖤 Jason I love the addition of LAB to compost, it’s just amazing! Interesting about the worms too. High carbon is great to see too, very interesting! You have no idea how much joy it brings me to see you and others getting onto LAB, this stuff is SO FREAKIN powerful! Yep I totally swear by LAB, it has been my powerhouse and I believe the key to increased soil health, and therefore higher performing blooms. The biggest thing I’ve noticed with LAB for me has been disease reduction in plants, I mean INCREDIBLE reduction! It prevents mildew type diseases straight up! It’s insane! It does require consistent application tho, that’s key, so I apply every 1-2 weeks during growing season I use a watering can over the whole plant. Loved seeing your compost guys, just love all your doing! Will keep popping in when I can ok 👍 keep up the awesome work, you guys are the best!!! 🙌🏼💐💓🌻🌱🍃

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      You pop by anytime you can Anita. I almost said we understand, but we totally don't. I do know you have lots , and I mean lots of things on the go !!
      Yep LAB was something I wanted ro use from day 1, when I got into gardening a couple years ago !! The hard part is, there's so much anecdotal information on it. But hearing people like you swearing by it tweaked our interest. Then, using Bokashi bran, to precompost was a game changer !!
      Totally agree with consistent use and most importantly, "doing your own homework". It's definitely something to be used mindfully!!
      STAY AWESOME Anita!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😁😁😁

    • @flowerfolkfarm3553
      @flowerfolkfarm3553 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden love it, and love you guys xx 🌻💐💓

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      @@flowerfolkfarm3553 right back at chaa !! Let's grrroooooowwww !!

  • @mandamoosgardeningadventur8305
    @mandamoosgardeningadventur8305 Год назад +1

    Amazing compost, it's all too technical for me but it looks fantastic,..
    Stay awesome you two wonderful people...🐮🐮🐮

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Coles Notes: makes a big pile of stuff and watch it turn into gold overtime, Manda!! There's definitely no right or even best way to do things imo !!
      I just like seeing the transformation and steam Lol !!
      Have a great week!! And STAY AWESOME!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @CoastalGardensNW
    @CoastalGardensNW Год назад +1

    Love it that is looking amazing guys it's mad how much moisture the seaweed has added and how little the pile has gone down great video once again guys igh five from bobbi

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      Ya I was shocked, huge takeaway forsure. But looking back it makes a lot of sense !! Seaweed has to be 95%ish water. Definitely something to keep in mind especially if your making a new pile with more greens!!
      Cheers and high Five Bobbi 🧤🌱🤞🤔🌱😊😊😊

    • @CoastalGardensNW
      @CoastalGardensNW Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden defiantly great job bro

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks brother

  • @Pervydachny
    @Pervydachny Год назад +1

    Friends, hello! Compost is amazing in my opinion! I somehow added duckweed to the compost, it also had an excellent result. It's interesting to watch your experiments. Take care of yourself. Best wishes to you👍😜💐💛💙

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Let's gooooo Svetlana!! Awsomeness:)))) It's great to hear you had such good results!!
      Said hi to Momma for you this morning:))))
      Have a great week!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @bluebirdhomestead
    @bluebirdhomestead Год назад +2

    9:52 you guys have kept a really good record of everything! Look at that chart. Nice. 😀 -Cara💙

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      It's been a lit of learning this year. It's weird, but now I'm so glad last yearswinter pile "failed". With all the suggestions and recording it, we were able to look back and make adjustments. Sooo many great lessons!!
      Have a great week, brw your irrigation system is awesomeness!@
      Cheers 🌱🤞🌱🤔😊😊😊

    • @bluebirdhomestead
      @bluebirdhomestead Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden Thank you so much guys! -Ryan & Cara

  • @emptynestgardens9057
    @emptynestgardens9057 Год назад +1

    Sweet sweet compost. Ali's info got me thinking about those that say to pee on the pile (ammonia) especially if you are a beer drinker😁🍺 Glad to see the worms don't mind cooking. Wonder how they are enjoying your wintery weather. ❄️ See you in the next one 👍🏻

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Thanks, Roxanne!! Yes definitely tons of things compost will benefit from!! I lady in the comments she used "duck weed" from a local pond and had fabulous results !!
      The worms are tough !! And I was blown away by the cocoons already!!
      Hope you and Bill have a great week!! Let's gooooo!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @homesteadingwithsadie
    @homesteadingwithsadie Год назад +1

    wow that is awesome ,

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks Bob !! Really interesting stuff and getting tons of great suggestions!!
      Love this platform for that !!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛

  • @glennysgardening7838
    @glennysgardening7838 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey brother big shout out from down under

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  8 месяцев назад +1

      Perfect timing!! I'm just about to release a new video a year later 🤜🤛
      Love the LAB !!
      Cheers 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛

  • @backtonature433
    @backtonature433 Год назад +1

    Weedy is a legend,specially editing skills 👌,,awesome permaculture Gardener too💚🌱💚

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      He puts so much art into his videos - they are such a pleasure to watch! They obviously take forever to make. But they are definitely some of our favourites. Plus, he's pretty honest when he's made a mistake and he does do his research. Cheers, Colleen (and Jason)

    • @backtonature433
      @backtonature433 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden absolutely 💯 👌👌👌

  • @truthseeker9688
    @truthseeker9688 Месяц назад

    NICE compost.

  • @PlantObsessed
    @PlantObsessed Год назад +1

    Did you also chart exterior temps? It would be interesting to see the contrast between the two. I think it was the lab that got the pile going again. I have tried the ammonia trick when my pike was carbon heavy. It does work.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      We did initially, but I totally forgot to keep it up, lol !! We've had big temp swings but generally have had temps between 5 above and under 0 the past 3 weeks.
      It's hard to quantify "what did what" but I'm super glad we tracked it :)
      Have a great week Ann !
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊

  • @bufforpingtonlife
    @bufforpingtonlife Год назад +1

    Interesting stuff! We don't invest much in our compost. New subscriber. Like 37.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Nothing wrong with that. I tend to go overboard with things lol. We're super new to all this but love it, especially doing it together:)
      Where are you guys located ?
      Cheers from Victoria Canada
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱😊

    • @bufforpingtonlife
      @bufforpingtonlife Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden we're in Central Arkansas zone 7b. Cheers

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      @Buff Orpington Life right on !! My inlaws love in S. Illinois, we live it down there!!
      You have a channel?

    • @bufforpingtonlife
      @bufforpingtonlife Год назад +2

      @@clivesconundrumgarden we have family all over. Nebraska, Seattle, Iowa.
      I do have a channel. It's just about my chickens. I touch on other things. 🌻🐣🐥🐓❣️

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      @@bufforpingtonlife oh cool, well you have the best compost going then !!
      We'll check ya out !!

  • @ianfrancisledesma4431
    @ianfrancisledesma4431 3 месяца назад +1

    Try adding some semi-crushed 100 percent hardwood charcoal in that composting process..in the end you will have finished compost mixed with biochar!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  3 месяца назад

      Awesome call, I did a trial last with biochar and bell peppers last year. There was a noticeable difference. I totally try it on our next pile !!
      Thanks !! Jason 🤜🤛

  • @gracieshomeandgardens5089
    @gracieshomeandgardens5089 Год назад +1

    I just imagine how your garden gonna look wonderful will all the homemade compost your gonna used..plants gonna loves it.🫑🥒🥬🥦🧅🧄

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Sure hope so Faye !! It's been a lot of fun trying some new things. Learning a lot and lots of fun !!
      Have a great week:)))
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @Acousticmuzik
    @Acousticmuzik Год назад +1

    Stórt knús frá mér til þín. Halló, frábært að deila, þú fangar alltaf falleg augnablik og mér finnst það ótrúlegt

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks so much, we're super new to gardening, but love it, especially doing it together!!
      Where are you from?
      Cheers from Victoria Canada
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱😁

  • @NowGardening
    @NowGardening Год назад +1

    Hi Jason and Colleen. What’s your fastest time to create compost so far? You’re at 3 months on this pile right with temp pretty constant at 90°?

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Jason says he has done an 18-day compost pile, but he felt it was only a decent mulch. He might get inspired to try again in the future, but for now, this way of hot composting seems to be working for him.
      He's trying to come up with a compost that will feed the soil with maximum efficiency. He's not looking to grow the plants in the compost as much as he's looking to create a compost pile that will feed the soil that will grow the plants.
      Phew! I was dictating that.
      Anyway, this pile is about two months and three weeks old. The temps were far from constant, varying widely between 50 and 160F. They rose and fell fairly dramatically a few times. But they did spend a good amount of time above that 131F mark that is so critical.
      Cheers, Colleen (and Jason)

  • @gretasgarden
    @gretasgarden Год назад +1

    I kick myself for not picking up seaweed this year. Just didn't bother. LAB info is interesting. Compost is looking good

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      I used last year to build our lasagna inground beds. Definitely didn't hurt, as we were blown away by how well the soil performed last summer.
      Tons to learn still, but getting a lot of suggestions and support.
      Love this platform!!
      Have a great night, Greta!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

  • @myrustygarden
    @myrustygarden Год назад +1

    Some fabulous looking compost there kiddos you should be able to grow giant veg to make the UK crowd jealous 😂😂. Hope the snow is ok we have a foot but blue sky today ❤. Have a fab week stay safe kiddos 🥰🇨🇦

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Omg we got nothing, they call for Snowmagedon last night 🤣🤣🤣
      Thanks again for the tip, I hope I got your new channel name right 🤞😊
      We're like you Ali, food is mearly a bonus 😁
      Have a great week!!
      Cheers the kiddos 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

    • @myrustygarden
      @myrustygarden Год назад +1

      Yes you got it totally right ❤

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      @@myrustygarden let's gooooo!!

  • @brianseybert2189
    @brianseybert2189 Год назад +1

    Making a hot compost can really turn into an art, I think a new Claude Monet has been born.
    Never tried the LAB, have used urine to get a pile hot after things begin to cool down, this seems a lot easier.
    The DNR removes milfoil from our local lakes, have been considering collecting some for use in a hot compost.
    The worms will stay on the fringes of "Too Hot". Cockroaches do the same thing in a commercial kitchen. The ones that live at the edges of "TOO Hot" reproduce like crazy and scoot like little rocket ships, I'm sure the worms are doing the same thing.
    The biggest trick in my experience (only a few years), is reproducing a successful pile. Most of the time it goes off without a hitch, but once in a while Mother Nature throws you a curve ball.
    You guys are making some beautiful compost, salute! Stay Well!!!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks, Brian !! No wonder cockroaches will survive anything, lol !!
      Exactly I thought it would be pointless to add it right away or before temps trended down. First pike I've ever had we're the heat "curve" has looked like this !!
      Lots of great takeaways from the comments. Thanks for being such a big part of this !!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱🤔😊

    • @brianseybert2189
      @brianseybert2189 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden The only thing cockroaches could not survive was Seybert Pest Control, lol.
      You have a bunch of loyal followers with a lot to contribute to your videos.
      Keep on, Keeping on!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Lol!!
      Comments, not clicks, brother !! :)

  • @littlefootranch4410
    @littlefootranch4410 Год назад +1

    I've not ever used LAB but I must say I'm super interested in trying it!! The seaweed seems to really be beneficial. We're heading to the beach ( hopefully) next weekend. It's like a 3 hour drive so I plan on trying to find some. I do use comfrey quite a bit though & weeds.
    And the temperature increase is really interesting & cool, did you happen to note the outside Temps?
    You're gonna be so set by planting day 🖤
    Awesome & informative video friends!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      Thanks Rebecca!
      I don't know how seaweed would smell after 3 hours in a car. It might not be worth it lol. And it's often buggy, so watch out for that if you decide to risk it. Jason says you could try putting it in a cooler. But make it disposable.
      We have general outside Temps for the area, but we don't have a thermometer where we need it to keep track. Definitely something we want to do in the future.
      Cheers Colleen and Jason 🌱

    • @littlefootranch4410
      @littlefootranch4410 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden I had planned to throw it in a cooler but maybe it still won't be worth it. Lol. Perhaps I'll stick with comfrey 😂
      Thanks for the heads up cause other wise it might of ended up badly lol

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      @Littlefoot Ranch I bet it would be fine!! Just don't put it in you favorite cooler 🤔🤣

  • @Pixieworksstudio
    @Pixieworksstudio Год назад +1

    Sorry, what was the last thing you named if we don't have access to seaweed, I didn't quite hear what you said. Thank you🤗

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      No problem!! Comfrey would be best. But any kind of deep-rooted "weed" works well - thistle, neetles, or even Dandelion:)
      Where do you live ?
      Cheers from Victoria Canada
      Jason and Colleen 🌱👍

    • @Pixieworksstudio
      @Pixieworksstudio Год назад

      @@clivesconundrumgarden ah cool, thank you!

  • @stevefromthegarden1135
    @stevefromthegarden1135 Год назад +1

    The pile did pick up a lot of water compared to the end of the last video. On the 2nd flip, you can easily see the steam coming off so it had to be pretty warm. Interesting the worms would still be in the center of the pile with the high temps. I would think they would migrate more towards the outside. Never thought of making LAB for use in the compost pile but it seems to be working for you. The most surprising thing is how little volume of material the pile has lost. My new piles always seem to lose 20% (or more) in the first 60 to 75 days if I don't continue to top them off with new materials. Just curious, did you knock over the spray bottle at least once when it was sitting on the pallet between the bins? For myself, it seems like that would be bound to happen. 🤣

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      I was so mindful of it I didn't 🤣🤣🤣, I knew if I put it to the side I would forget lol !! Interesting because of the small awkwardness it created, I could feel my back the next day!!
      As the pile ate up the 50-70 liters of kelp it definitely over-hydrated it. I'd definitely like to run LAB in a more controlled way, it's hard not to think that it was a combination of increased moisture, N from kelp, aeration from flipping and LAB all working together.
      But it sure makes for a unique graph lol, I've not experienced this before.
      1 big thing this has taught me is not to get too wrapped up in CN ratios. Like Vermicomposting the only real threat is anerobes. And even that can be mitigated rather easily :)
      Thanks for you observations Steve, totally awesome!!
      Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛

    • @stevefromthegarden1135
      @stevefromthegarden1135 Год назад +1

      @Clive's Conundrum Garden You're getting old Jason! A few wrong moves and the back makes you pay. 🤪🤣 I wrenched my back picking up a full tray of potted up peppers last year to put them outside. 🙄 took a good week or so to recover. With a good worm population in this pile, some of the extra water could be caused by the build up of castings soaking it up.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      FACTS !! 😁
      I have to check but I think the worms showed up while it was thermophilic!! But they tons of room to move around !!

  • @NanasWorms
    @NanasWorms Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for your kind shout out, Jason. May I offer an alternate / supplemental explanation for the spike in temperature? When you added the LAB, you also added some water (albeit only 1 L), plus water seems to be coming out of the kelp. Additional moisture will greatly increase microbial populations and distribution through the bin. We're definitely going to head to the beach to go kelp hunting!
    ~ Sandra

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Funny Sandra, I've been talking about that very thing with Steve and Mike at Sow Grow EAT.
      I agree it's definitely a combination. I wanna do a more controlled/singular teat with the LAB in the future:)
      I see we missed Snowmagedon last night 😊
      Hope you guys are having a great day !!
      Cheers Sandra !!
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱😊😊😊

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Btw Terry's taking your tip from the last video :)))

    • @NanasWorms
      @NanasWorms Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden Which tip do you mean, Jason? I hope I haven't led him down the wrong path!
      ~ Sandra

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      He's going to use his wildlife pond material in his compost !! :)

    • @NanasWorms
      @NanasWorms Год назад +1

      Aquatic plants and even the water are so rich in microbes and nutrients. He won't be sorry.
      ~ Sandra

  • @AJsGreenTopics
    @AJsGreenTopics Год назад +1

    Keep on trying new things.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      Why not right !! My OCD is loves this stuff 🤣
      Hope you have a great week AJ !!
      Stay Awesome 🤜🤛💪🤞🌱😊

  • @nchestercountynews4955
    @nchestercountynews4955 Год назад +1

    Uria works well, I use duckweed in mine.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      I must admit, I do take my "breaks" in the compost area, lol !!
      Duckweed sounds like a winner. Must be tons of good stuff in it !!
      Thanks for the suggestions, we're new so we really appreciate it!!
      Cheers Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞👍

  • @urbangardeningandchickenke1018
    @urbangardeningandchickenke1018 Год назад +1

    Interesting
    On the background, it's looks some forest type of dense trees

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      The trees are huge !! We call the Cedar and Laurel trees here :)
      Have a great week!!🤞🌱🤞🤜🤛😊

  • @koyumde-atthevillage-8213
    @koyumde-atthevillage-8213 Год назад +1

    Bulgaristan dan selamlar 👍👍🍀🍀🍀🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🌲🌲⛰️⛰️

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Thanks so much, we're super new to gardening, but love it, especially doing it together!!
      Where are you from?
      Cheers from Victoria Canada
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱😁

  • @nickthegardener.1120
    @nickthegardener.1120 Год назад +3

    Hi Jason, Geoff Lawton says that if you get the ratio right of carbon to nitrogen then you do not loose any mass from the pile. I think its 25 parts carbon to 1 part nitrogen, a carbon base and top with small layers of nitrogen in between carbon.. I’m going to add Geoffs video here ➡️ruclips.net/video/Gn6xRrHMs28/видео.html 👍🏻💗🤠💪 My urine is mostly beer, ammonia and a bit of water.🤣👍🏻🤠

    • @nickthegardener.1120
      @nickthegardener.1120 Год назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/Gn6xRrHMs28/видео.html Geoff video.👍🏻🤠💪💗

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣 you're a walking LAB !! Lawton is interesting and a huge influence on Weedy (David). He's been in a few of his videos :)
      Agree about the ratio, but how the heck do you achieve that. I know science, but it is just hard to achieve, for me. That's why I wanted to try 95 to 5 % browns. I know browns aren't 100% carbon, not even close, and vice versa.
      I mean, grass is somewhere in the 12-25 to 1 CN ???
      I think a well-balanced mix of materials is a great start. As you know I love overthinking things, but hopefully in a future, that will be a benefit!!
      Love you knowledge, experience, and banter, brother!!
      Let's gooooo!!
      Cheers 🌱🤞🌱🤜🤛💪

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      I've actually seen it!! He's a legend !! Just so fiddly to me atm, and I don't have the specific inputs required to make decent 18 day compost. I've tried but it was decent mulch at best. Definitely need to try again !!
      Thanks again Nick!!

    • @nickthegardener.1120
      @nickthegardener.1120 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden I like weedy, seen Geoff in his videos, both are great. Wormtropolis was because of them.👍🏻🤠💪💗🪱

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      Let's gooooo!!

  • @Maplecook
    @Maplecook Год назад +1

    The same stuff that makes sourdough!?

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Exactly?! It pulls beneficial bacteria out of the air and is the process as makes sourdough and cheeses !!
      Have a great day Brother 🤜🤛💪

  • @DigwellGreenfingers
    @DigwellGreenfingers Год назад +1

    Jeez - you're "milking" this one 🤣🤣 And I don't mean "blue milk" LOL

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +1

      I bet cha the female bantha's mammary glands would really fire up the compost 🤣 Selfishly, we're making these to reference and rewatch in the future. I think the biggest reason this pile has been so successful was having our "fail" from last year documented. Getting so many great suggestions has helped a ton as well!!
      Stay awesome, Steve !!
      Cheers the Padawans!!

    • @DigwellGreenfingers
      @DigwellGreenfingers Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden My little bag of compost is progressing well. Not as quick as I had hoped but the best things are worth waiting for LOL

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад +2

      @Digwell Greenfingers that's what's so great about gardening. There are so many ways to great good results!! That being said, I have no idea how this will turn out. At worst, it'll feed the soil :)

  • @lunizparlein173
    @lunizparlein173 Год назад +1

    How?

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      That's a great question, the only thing that changed the trending downward temps was the LAB. I'm now an expert, but the data is interesting foresure!!
      Cheers Jason and Colleen 🌱👍

  • @davidreynolds2897
    @davidreynolds2897 Год назад +1

    J/9/2 - If you know you know

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      Always hits !! Let's gooooo!!
      Definitely better than Q-8-5, squidle!!
      Hope you're doing great brother!!
      Cheers J&C 🤜🤛💛💚

  • @brianseybert2189
    @brianseybert2189 Год назад +1

    Out of topic. I am missing my worthless cat so much. How bout I put out a video, just me talking about my cat plus his song on the violin. I need good karma to bring him home. I'm so goofy, but it hurts so bad. I see his face, close up to mine, it hurts so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brianseybert2189
    @brianseybert2189 Год назад +1

    You got me interested in looking up lactobacillus. Here is a link to Ashley's channel ruclips.net/video/SIwBqGt0tCY/видео.html
    Stay Well!!!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      I haven't seen this one, but she has some excellent videos!! I'll check it out !!
      It's definitely something to do some research on before deciding if it's right for you.
      One thing I'm interested in, is will this out compete fungi. Especially added at such a late stage.
      That wasn't the for me. I wanted to see if there was a bump in temperatures. And honestly, there's nothing definitive, even though the graph clearly shows an increase in temps. I'm now actually leaning towards a combination of the increased moisture from kelp, the N from the kelp becoming "more available, and aerating the pile all combined with the LAB to create the heat.
      Something I'd definitely like to isolate under more controlled conditions in future piles :)
      Cheers Brother, thanks again for the link !!
      Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞🌱💪🤜🤛

    • @brianseybert2189
      @brianseybert2189 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden According to Ashley, the decomposition resulting from lactobacillus does not create heat. So I would have to agree the addition of the kelp, the water introduced with the kelp plus the turning, got the pile going again.
      As long as you are turning the pile the fungal communities will be busted apart. For the compost to get the high fungal component it has to rest, or age. When I set my compost to rest is when I introduce native leaf litter. The compost I am using now in my soil mixes has been resting for almost 7 months, has a decent amount of good fungal hyphae and spores. I need to look at the potting mix I made up a week or so ago and see what that is lookin like.
      Really have not really considered LAB before. Thanks for the heads up!!!

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      @Brian Seybert I watched the video. Thanks for that !!
      For me, it depends on context, I think.
      I've my Bokashi with my LAB and used it anerobically to break down all food scraps, veggies, and meat with good results. Last Sumner, we actually closed the loop at my brother in laws place :)))
      We've used to treat powdery mildew
      Used it in the last summer lettuce trial. Maybe check out the video. It's pretty cool
      Used to pre-seedlings and now compost.
      Used to my anaerobic teas, Thistle, weed, and seaweed last year
      I have no idea what's in compost accelerators. All I know is that it is too expensive for us to consider using.
      The other thing I absolutely understand, I'm no expert so any information is valuable and in the field, with all the variables it's hard to find concrete and definitive answers. Very cool stuff!!

    • @brianseybert2189
      @brianseybert2189 Год назад +1

      @@clivesconundrumgarden No need in buying any of that compost accelerators, it probably would not hurt, but yet again?. What makes us good gardeners is we welcome our ignorance Try different things until we land on what works, then move on to the next project.
      So glad I found you and Colleen's channel. You not only have given me a lot of encouragement for my channel, but you also make me question and give me ideas I have never thought of.
      Cheers!! My friend!.

    • @clivesconundrumgarden
      @clivesconundrumgarden  Год назад

      @Brian Seybert amazing Brian, I totally agree on every single point!!
      Colleen will be tickled to see this and right back at cha brother !@
      Let's groooowww !!