GeorgeStryker sounds like a solid idea. Hope you didnt wake up any neighbors. Since then I actually changed up the setup cause it was a little bit droney when I would decelerate. Now I have the baffles back on, but I drilled out the center with a 1" holesaw so it just has a hole in the center of it rather than the little tube that runs through it. Still sounds pretty good, I'll do an update video soon
The baffles are designed to create the proper amount of back pressure to ensure escaping gases do not allow ignited gases or flames to leave the combustion chamber, period. When this happens you have massive heat burning through the exhaust for no reason, increased piston temperatures, increased cylinder head temperature, increased cylinder head valve/valve guides, and seal temperatures, and a whole plethora of problems that will quickly start destroying your engine from the inside out.
Not sure what engineering science background you have, but I have to imagine that is an extreme case you're explaining there, if there is any truth to it at all. There are probably a million engines running with no baffles at all and not being destroyed.
@@justriders1 Your actually correct. Engines can actually loose torque with out baffles or mufflers too. Depends on the vehicle. Otherwise opening things up can create small gains. I'm with you I don't like doing a hack job unless theirs a benefit. Noise isn't going to be one.
Thanks. It is a bit of a beater bike. I got it pretty cheap, but it definitely cleaned up nice. I haven't got to ride it much since doing this because of the winter, but I also increased the main jet along with the exhaust mod. I am assuming I will lose at least a few mpg. The best part is that this mod is 100% reversible if I don't like it because I just have to rivet the end caps back on.
Carry Smith That was the only thing I wanted.... I also rejetted the carb so that the air/fuel ratio was better. these bikes are very lean from the factory and it really affects the performance. Now I get shit gas mileage for such a small bike, but it can go over 80mph and sounds a lot better
@@justriders1 You still in philly? I'd like to talk with you about this mod since I'm really considering doing it to mine what size jets did you go with? Looking for some help here lol
hey, it sounds awesome. I'm planning on doing the same to my bike. When you say "removing the last baffle" do you mean that there is more than one you have to remove? Cause from what I have read on other forums, they only remove the baffle that has rivets on them, yet they don't sound as nice as yours. Any help would be appreciated
It's just the one from removing the rivets. I don't know why I wrote the last baffle at the time, but I am assuming I just meant the baffle that is located closest to the rear. I do not know if there are more baffles, but it is a possibility. I think the sound difference you are getting is probably the difference in camera/sound quality. Exhausts are so hard to record and actually have a good sound playback from the video. Just go for it, and see what you think!
Good job! Don't forget you might benefit from re-jetting the carb to get a smoother ride and easier starting. That thing would be pretty hard to get warmed up in cool weather.
It is a VERY quiet bike. I'll come up to deer on the side of the road, and I'm climbing in 3rd and they don't notice me at all, till they see me ten feet from me. If I rode a lot at night on these lonely !mountain roads I'd do it too to warn back the deer and bear. I however do like the quiet rumble of stock.
It did have a negative impact on performance until the engine warmed up. This should be accompanied by re-tuning the carbs if done the correct way, but not required.
+Noah Cooper Totally worth it. It was one of many things that I did to the bike while I owned it. I usually like to have a little bit more noise than stock but not so much that it's annoying or waking the neighbors up. I got a lot of compliments on the sound. If you open it up all the way like i did, you can always go back and reinstall the baffles by riveting the plates back on. I ended up reinstalling the plates but cut out the baffles just so the back of the exhaust was still black and the hole was a little smaller. If I still had the bike I would have put in a larger pilot jet along with the larger main jet that I used because sometimes it would be hard to warm up but it would always start and run with the choke no problem.
My first bike was a 1990 Nighthawk 250 and I loved that damn thing. I would love to have another just for nostalgia. On a 2007 Harley Road king now.
watched your vid and drilled mine out at 5am lol thanks
GeorgeStryker sounds like a solid idea. Hope you didnt wake up any neighbors. Since then I actually changed up the setup cause it was a little bit droney when I would decelerate. Now I have the baffles back on, but I drilled out the center with a 1" holesaw so it just has a hole in the center of it rather than the little tube that runs through it. Still sounds pretty good, I'll do an update video soon
Not thát soon I would say :p
😂 for real my shit willl be off in the next 5 min
i love that sound .I had a 200 roadmaster which sounds like this
One of the best sounding motorbike in 250cc segment.sounds better than ninja250-r25-Cbr 250r and more.
The baffles are designed to create the proper amount of back pressure to ensure escaping gases do not allow ignited gases or flames to leave the combustion chamber, period. When this happens you have massive heat burning through the exhaust for no reason, increased piston temperatures, increased cylinder head temperature, increased cylinder head valve/valve guides, and seal temperatures, and a whole plethora of problems that will quickly start destroying your engine from the inside out.
Not sure what engineering science background you have, but I have to imagine that is an extreme case you're explaining there, if there is any truth to it at all. There are probably a million engines running with no baffles at all and not being destroyed.
@@justriders1 I copied and pasted that when i googled why the baffles exist in the first place but I can accept your input as well
@@NoboDY-qu7zs Mine runs for 17000km already with this modification. No changes what so ever. 34km/l and +-75mph top speed
@@justriders1 Your actually correct. Engines can actually loose torque with out baffles or mufflers too. Depends on the vehicle. Otherwise opening things up can create small gains. I'm with you I don't like doing a hack job unless theirs a benefit. Noise isn't going to be one.
Sir u r correct..in stock form they last the longest
Nice! 😎
I put shortys on mine and it sounds 1000 x better than stock pipes w out baffles.
Nice video , clean bike looks much newer I thought it was a 2008 model , hope the mod doesn't effect your mpg
Thanks. It is a bit of a beater bike. I got it pretty cheap, but it definitely cleaned up nice. I haven't got to ride it much since doing this because of the winter, but I also increased the main jet along with the exhaust mod. I am assuming I will lose at least a few mpg. The best part is that this mod is 100% reversible if I don't like it because I just have to rivet the end caps back on.
JustRiders
and what advantages did you get from removing the baffles other then more noise???
Carry Smith That was the only thing I wanted.... I also rejetted the carb so that the air/fuel ratio was better. these bikes are very lean from the factory and it really affects the performance. Now I get shit gas mileage for such a small bike, but it can go over 80mph and sounds a lot better
@@justriders1 how many mpg did you get
Sounds just like the CBs sounded in the 70s.
Is this bike up for sale ? I’m looking for a beginner bike and this one seems perfect for me
Haven't owned the bike in a few years now. Still located in the Philadelphia area and going strong
@@justriders1 You still in philly? I'd like to talk with you about this mod since I'm really considering doing it to mine what size jets did you go with? Looking for some help here lol
New bike?
hey, it sounds awesome. I'm planning on doing the same to my bike. When you say "removing the last baffle" do you mean that there is more than one you have to remove? Cause from what I have read on other forums, they only remove the baffle that has rivets on them, yet they don't sound as nice as yours. Any help would be appreciated
It's just the one from removing the rivets. I don't know why I wrote the last baffle at the time, but I am assuming I just meant the baffle that is located closest to the rear. I do not know if there are more baffles, but it is a possibility. I think the sound difference you are getting is probably the difference in camera/sound quality. Exhausts are so hard to record and actually have a good sound playback from the video. Just go for it, and see what you think!
How did you put the “cover plate/endcap” back on? Just new rivets?
yea you just need to rivet it back on. You can get an inexpensive rivet gun at Harbor Freight, and it comes with an assortment of rivets.
I can't get my baffles out I drilled holes through them and got the rivets out and it won't budge.
Just figured it out. I used a flat head and a hammer to nudge it out at the edges
Good job! Don't forget you might benefit from re-jetting the carb to get a smoother ride and easier starting. That thing would be pretty hard to get warmed up in cool weather.
Good video, bad idea. You've changed a great original sound to simply noise. Excuse for my english.
+HermannVG The only reason I did it was for the noise. Noise is not a bad thing for everyone. Thanks for the comment.
Noise can be a good thing on such a quiet bike when there are bad drivers around who don't look for motorcyclists. Loud Pipes Save Lives.
It is a VERY quiet bike. I'll come up to deer on the side of the road, and I'm climbing in 3rd and they don't notice me at all, till they see me ten feet from me. If I rode a lot at night on these lonely !mountain roads I'd do it too to warn back the deer and bear.
I however do like the quiet rumble of stock.
Does this have an impact on performance?
It did have a negative impact on performance until the engine warmed up. This should be accompanied by re-tuning the carbs if done the correct way, but not required.
So was it worth it? I'm contemplating
+Noah Cooper Totally worth it. It was one of many things that I did to the bike while I owned it. I usually like to have a little bit more noise than stock but not so much that it's annoying or waking the neighbors up. I got a lot of compliments on the sound. If you open it up all the way like i did, you can always go back and reinstall the baffles by riveting the plates back on. I ended up reinstalling the plates but cut out the baffles just so the back of the exhaust was still black and the hole was a little smaller. If I still had the bike I would have put in a larger pilot jet along with the larger main jet that I used because sometimes it would be hard to warm up but it would always start and run with the choke no problem.
JustRiders okay thanks for replying.
I drilled out my rivets as well but the back plate wouldn’t budge. Ended up pop riveting it back together. Any tips to get the plate off?
@@alexq866 sold my bike 5 years ago brother so don’t know hahaha
@@alexq866 you have to use a hammer
I just recently picked up the same bike a wanted to do the same thing to mine. Did you notice any differences in speed or power?
no differences other than sound. There isn't much power to get out of this bike.
sounds like my crf now lol
Those 250 r bullet proof. I put 25k in 1
OMG
Oh no!
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Es una modificación totalmente reversible, lo único que hace es añadir sonido ya que está moto es muy silenciosa
If you can't turn that bike without going on the lawn you should not be riding you are a road menace!