Nicely finished build, I'm also doing similar for gmrs. Only thing I didn't see you address in the video or comments is those USB connectors going into the solar/battery are not waterproof. I think on my build I'll put a 12v Lifepo4 battery inside the box and use a solar battery maintainer on the outside, adds a little bulk inside but the only thing out in the elements this way is the solar panel, which is waterproof on it's own. I've also found simpler components that eliminate a couple of the antenna connections inline, then use a longer bit of cable outside the box to separate the antennas by a few more feet. Keep tinkering!
I have been wanting to build a repeater for quite some time. Thanks to your informative video I should be able to build one now. Thank you for this video, it will be a big help
Thank you for listening to my feedback On the Amazon Links And putting Descriptions on each amazon link Looks great and so much easier to Tell what link is for what Grest video as well very entertaining and Informative 23:42
Enjoyed the build. Will enjoy part II. If not already videotaped and edited, would enjoy hearing what (if anything) you would have done differently on this build. I am learning on the go (on the fly) so i appreciate all the wisdom i can glean (or is it gleam?). Anyway thanks.
08:40 Sure, I'd be happy to help explain the wiring for 3.5mm and 2.5mm audio connectors. These connectors are commonly used for headphones, microphones, and other audio devices.
Thank you for watching. You are correct. However most headphones use a tip, ring, ring, sleeve or TRRS configuration as opposed to a tip sleeve or TS configuration.
Does that solar power pack use pass-through charging? Meaning, it can charge itself from the solar panel and discharge to charge the radios at the same time. Not all solar packs have this ability. Thanks
I totally understand and it’s definitely educational. I enjoyed your video. I was just wondering if I was missing something. I am actually in the process of putting one together myself.
How did you overcome the common ground issue? When both radio's have a common ground, through the charger when it is hooked up, the transmitter will allways transmit. PTT button, or in this case the charger, connects mic ground to speaker ground.
Did you do a video of this working from a distance? I would have thought you would have to metal cage the radios to lessen the chance of deafening the receive.
@@theoilykrafter But, you made so sure that everything else was waterproofed but the obvious one on the OUTSIDE of the case was unprotected. Didn’t make sense.
Great build. Sadly, I tried this and found that the radios tended to override each other. Granted, I was pushing max output and my channels were closer than I would prefer. I look forward to your follow up to see what you learned in this process that I might glean more success in my efforts to have back-county SAR radio capability. Thank you!
The frequencies have to have a minimum distance apart so they will not heterodyne. VHF: 600 KHZ negative. UHF: 5 MHZ positive. That is the usual separation. EDIT: The antennas should also be a minimum of 1/4 wave length apart. VHF: 2 meters= 6.5 feet. UHF: 70 centimeters= 2.3 feet.
@@jhutch1470 I've always wondered what frequency override was called. It makes it hard to learn things when one doesn't know the right words! Does the transmitting freq need to be negative for VHF or the receiving freq? I don't understand what you mean by negative and positive. Thank you SO so much for the great information!!
@@tophattommy2 Oh yeah, sorry. You are correct. The transmit is negative for VHF and positive for UHF. At least that is the usual band plan for ham radios. I tend to stay with what I call industry standards. It is just called repeater separation. You can always use one antenna if you use a duplexer, but they are very involved, have to be highly tuned, and use about half your power. They can also be called "tuning cans." Two antennas is always better for low power stuff. Hope it helps.
@@jhutch1470 This helps greatly! I want to set up a couple "ad-hoc" repeaters that can be packed in for SAR activities that can relay back to IC. For an idea of the remoteness of where I am referring, open a map to 45.000000, -112.000000 and look to the south a bit.
I like your video. My experience with doing this very sameproject was a jolt to my brain. 3 or 4 trys and i found my sweet spot. Now i did mine for gmrs . I used a much bigger box. I put a 10 ap hour lipo battery in and a bigger solar charger. Now most of the rest isthesame . I did find the charge cables to be a problem . Did away with them that have the chip and lights. Plain jane usb cable and no more issues. Also i used very different antennas . AND THE ANTENNAS wanted to be about 6 to 8 feet part. I will be doing a whole new set in a couple months. I hope that works for how you plan to use it. Oh oh i found that i am getting approximately 10 to 15 miles coveage in a circle around where i set it up depending on weather its an ht or mobile rig . Mobile rgs clearly get better rsults.
My experience with those little solar panel battery banks is that the solar panel is undersized. It takes about a week in bright Florida sunlight for the power bank to go from 20% to full. A little 10 watt panel is a substantial improvement. A 25 watt panel is more of a beefy solution for this application. You will need a controller with the external solar panel. Sometimes that is included with the small panels. Sometimes it is not. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for watching the video and providing feedback. I agree that bigger is applicable. My goal was to make it as compact and portable as possible.
I have seen several of these repeater builds and I an seeing different requirements for the cross-over cable. One said it just has to have the correct sized connectors. Others say that it has to be mono, not stereo. Only one other one that I viewed said it requires you to cross-over red to white and white to red. Which is it really?
It is a cross over cable. I found a mono 2.5 mm on one end and 3.5 mm on the other end. I cut the cable stripped back the wire and wired the red to the white wire and the white wire to the red wire.
The plug to power the radio what is the #s and where can I find it? Hopefully I can find one with other end a USB to then plug into solar bank. Can you tell me where you found and what it's called for the sma and so239(?) Plug mounted to box? Tks
The cables came in the bundle with the radios and antennas. Here is a link to the cable to charge the batteries. amzn.to/3X5Aa1m If you need the batteries and cables try this link amzn.to/3YHk7YQ
RX Radio 3 Using this VFO VFO B 148.600 Menu 0 SQL 3 Menu 2 TXP Low Menu 4 VOX Off Menu 10 R-DCS Off Menu 11 R-CTCS Off Menu 12 T-DCS Off Menu 13 T-CTCS Off Menu 25 SFT-D - Menu 26 Offset 000.600 TX Radio4 Settings Using this VFO VFO A 148.000 Menu 0 SQL 3 Menu 2 TXP Low Menu 4 VOX 10 Menu 10 R-DCS Off Menu 11 R-CTCS Off Menu 12 T-DCS Off Menu 13 T-CTCS Off Menu 25 SFT-D Off Menu 26 Offset 000.600 Radio1 and Radio2 used to test repeater function Using this VFO VFO B 148.000 Menu 2 TXP Low Menu 4 VOX Off Menu 10 R-DCS Off Menu 11 R-CTCS Off Menu 12 T-DCS Off Menu 13 T-CTCS Off Menu 25 SFT-D + Menu 26 Offset 000.600
I didn't hear you mention that you are going to have to hang that repeater box. Those radios work on vertical polarization and natural counter poise. The one antenna can be upside down, as long as it is vertical. You will kill almost all of your distance if you keep them horizontal. Just reminding you is all.
I was looking to make something like this for our ARES group. Will the solar panel on the battery keep up with say 3 or 4 hours of traffic (not constant, but a fair amount of traffic)? We have had drills where ham radio was the main comms source.
Thank you for watching. I reviewed the Extendad Manual for the GD-88 and it does mention cross band repeater function. Meaning you can set receive on VHF and transmit on UHF or vice versa.
I’m in the process of making a GMRS version of this for fun. Any tips? Did you have to do anything with the VOX? Mines gonna have the receive antenna about 50’ away from the box but the transmit coming off the box. That way I don’t need a higher watt radio to push through the coax. Simi mobile. Using 2 TD-H8s. Any advice helps.
I had one of those cos-play antennas I bought for UHF CB (477mHZ), "Bingfu Foldable CS Tactical SMA Female Ham Radio Antenna 2-Pack Dual Band VHF UHF 136-520MHz 42.5 inch Antenna" - 2 for $23, what could go wrong? up to 520mhz printed on the base yet it had a SWR of 8 with the whip, base by itself was about 1.2 haha... Be interested to hear what the Arbbree SWR's are?
Is there a part 2? I programmed the RX to 147.900 and the TX to 147.300 (for the heck of it). Built the kit step by step while watching your vid! Question is do I need to program the R-CTCS and the T-CTCS into each radio including my HT that I'm using for my 'home' radio ? I'm using 88.5 right now. Thank you again for an excellent tutorial! Reed
Only if your cross banding will this be maybe worth while.. for a same band repeater such as gmrs with only 5mhz offset these radios will desense and trip all over each other without a duplexer. Personal experience.. you need at least -80db seperation between that 5mhz spread to be able to use more than a few watts and its input radio be able to hear anything beyond the transmit radio.
If you don't have enough distance between the antennas you will cut down on teh efficiency of the receive and transmit and can have a negative effect on the finals in your radio.
I believe the polarization (horizontal or vertical orientation) of UHF and VHF antennas matter. Since the people using your repeater (your campers) will probably be using their HT vertical (with the antennas up and down), I think you want your repeater's antenna to be vertical. If they are horizontal, I believe you will lose a large part of that gain you said the antenna give you.
Without a duplexer, you'll have a lot of de-sensing of the receiver. But if you make a CROSS BAND repeater this would work better. Two meters in and 70 centimeters out -- or vice versa. Those wanting to use the repeater will have to set up their VFOs for cross band operation too. But that's trivial to do on most rigs, such as the FT-991A.
So my question is why two radios why not just purchase a small repeater like a sure com repeater this way it’s all plug-and-play and a lot less wires no need for crossover wire, and then you would only need one antenna or am I missing something but I will say I definitely enjoyed the video and it was very detailed which I appreciate thank you sir
Sorry for the late reply. We didn't receive any notification that we had a comment that needed a response. You could definitely do that. My goal was to see what was needed in order to build one potentially with only parts that I already had on hand.
add more solar power and add cables for the antennae plus gnd kits - then you can mount them higher for more coverage and less interference - generally a good idea just needs some tweaks and users can use liberty to dial it in #yuasa
I have one of those battery banks. While it will charge to full via sunlight, it takes about 4-5 days if the battery isn’t being drained by something else. Thank you for the video though. It’s great. We build, test, then improve.
@@adampettusyou would think, however from what I’ve seen, this battery may last 2 days and probably less. Unless you’re checking it every day or switching it out, this type of battery will not recharge/recover did give any real longevity. Hopefully I’m wrong. Other channels doing this same thing also say a much bigger solar panel is required.
Yes it is. There is a link to a 2.5mm mono to 3.5mm mono cable in the description. At 1:30 in the video I talk about the cable. I did have to cut the cable and strip the wire back and then resolder the wires after swapping white and red on one end of the wire. A cross-over cable if you will.
Okay hear me out here. You already made a connector on the box for each antenna, and you could put both connectors anywhere you wanted because it don't matter. You don't have to mount the antenna on the box at all. I would of figured out how far apart they work good and got a box big enough to store more antenna wire. I would just mount the antenna on separate tree limbs and strapped the box to the tree . My solar panel would also reguire more wire because I would mount it higher up out into the light and run it into the box too and not on it.
@@theoilykrafter You're welcome. I think if both antenna are about 15 feet apart or so and both vertical it should work good. Somewhere between 5 and 10 meters probably.
You worked real hard to make that look professional, but you forgot to take off the label that came on the box when you bought it ... nice setup though. I like it.
Thank you for watching our video! We don't mind that the label is there, we like sharing what we're using with our viewers. Thanks for the compliments!
That solar power bank will NEVER power that repeater. Ask me how I know. I tried the same idea with a meshtastic setup. With a 10ma draw, in the blazing Florida summer sun, the battery bank was empty in three days. Those solar battery banks are a joke. I updated with a 12" 5v solar panel charging a 8000mah 1s RC car battery. This setup actually worked.
Definitely easier to get an SO239 bulkhead connector than an SMA connector. I did find some that were bulkhead connectors for SMA but I didn't like how they mounted. I needed a stable mount for the antennas.
Way back in the late 80's and early 90's my Ham buddies built and operated half a dozen "Repeaters". We NEVER had to use cheap "toys" from Communist China. And a few of these "Genuine" Repeaters are still going strong! Even after a full third of a Century of hard, daily use.
dump the uv5rs ,,,, there junk ,,,,,, get 2 uv13 pro v2 ,,,better receive and kicks out 7.5 watts and 5 dollas cheaper lol or the best radio for transmit would be the Retevis RT86 , best long range radio ive ever had, also that solar panel on that power bank wont cut it
repeater callsign? heat build up inside sealed case? remote kill/reset in case repeater locks up? for emergency ok but not for regular use. some mobile and ht radios offer crossband repeating. my wouxun uv-9kg does. also an option.
You as the operator are responsible for making sure that you are compliant with FCC regulations. I will be covering that in Part 2 of the video that covers programming.
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful video 🤩 I am going to make a DMR reapeter for FRO/military here in Sweden when we are in the woods. I have some Anyone AT-D878UV2 Plus 😊
Should give your Amateur Radio Call Sign. And talk about what a repeater does. And purpose of having them. But not interfering with others. Need to mention have to adjust the volume and for input to the output handy talky..
I am planning on Part of the video where I talk about the FCC regulations and radio programming and settings on the radio. The part 1 video is all about just the equipment build.
I don't like giving out my call sign. Too easy to look up. Just looking at the number in your call sign, I can already tell that you are somewhat close to me.
Anyone who was paying attention to his video can see his call sign is on the back of both HT's, "AI5HT". Great video however, I agree with the antenna spacing issue.
Thanks for your feedback. This was a project to see if it would work. I am no way recommending using two handhelds as a critical purpose repeater. This would be for an emegency situation and you didn't have a commerical repeater available.
There is plenty of information about how far apart the antennas need to be online. Did you do any research or are we just setting money on fire here? Those solar battery banks are also purely a gimmick.
I’ve had great success with a solar battery. I’ve never plugged it in to charge it. Always been solar charged. Charges GoPro batteries while I’m out riding.
I’ve tried to find out how far apart antennas need to be and I only found one place that mentioned it. Don’t know if it’s correct but the internet says, one above the other at about two wavelengths separation.
I'm in Washington too, been doing a ton of research it doesn't seem too hard. Just have to figure out if you want 1 or 2 radios, there's a few ways to do it. If I get it figured out I'll keep you updated. This video was a ton of help, I'm just gonna wing it and see what happens.
Nicely finished build, I'm also doing similar for gmrs. Only thing I didn't see you address in the video or comments is those USB connectors going into the solar/battery are not waterproof. I think on my build I'll put a 12v Lifepo4 battery inside the box and use a solar battery maintainer on the outside, adds a little bulk inside but the only thing out in the elements this way is the solar panel, which is waterproof on it's own. I've also found simpler components that eliminate a couple of the antenna connections inline, then use a longer bit of cable outside the box to separate the antennas by a few more feet. Keep tinkering!
Thank you for your comments. You are correct the USB connectors do not indicate that they are waterproof.
I have been wanting to build a repeater for quite some time. Thanks to your informative video I should be able to build one now. Thank you for this video, it will be a big help
Glad we could help
Thanks for doing this. Can’t wait for a follow-up video.
Thank you for watching! Here is the link for part 2: Portable Repeater Build, Part 2
ruclips.net/video/ew8D0WcVcmM/видео.html
Thank you for listening to my feedback On the Amazon Links And putting Descriptions on each amazon link Looks great and so much easier to Tell what link is for what Grest video as well very entertaining and Informative 23:42
Thank you.
Very innovative ! Great project!
Thank you very much!
Enjoyed the build. Will enjoy part II. If not already videotaped and edited, would enjoy hearing what (if anything) you would have done differently on this build.
I am learning on the go (on the fly) so i appreciate all the wisdom i can glean (or is it gleam?). Anyway thanks.
Sorry for the delay on part 2. Life events got in the way. We will get that posted soon.
This build was what I was looking for. Thanks 73’s
You are welcome.
08:40
Sure, I'd be happy to help explain the wiring for 3.5mm and 2.5mm audio connectors. These connectors are commonly used for headphones, microphones, and other audio devices.
Thank you for watching. You are correct. However most headphones use a tip, ring, ring, sleeve or TRRS configuration as opposed to a tip sleeve or TS configuration.
Good Job..... thanks for you ,,, this is A65PP UAE ,,,, 73 brother
Thank you.
Great video, how do you check the SWR of this so it doesn't burn out the power transistors?
You could disconnect the antenna feed closest to the radio and connect into an SWR meter to test.
Great build i would suggest a 90 degree Adapter to make the antennas stand up if your using on a table But not needed of mounted on a wall
Thank you for the suggestion. I suggest mounting this in a vertical orientation.
Does that solar power pack use pass-through charging? Meaning, it can charge itself from the solar panel and discharge to charge the radios at the same time. Not all solar packs have this ability.
Thanks
Not 100% sure. Will have to check.
I totally understand and it’s definitely educational. I enjoyed your video. I was just wondering if I was missing something. I am actually in the process of putting one together myself.
Thank you for the question. We do have a Part 2 for this video that covers the radio programming. Hopefully that helps.
How did you overcome the common ground issue? When both radio's have a common ground, through the charger when it is hooked up, the transmitter will allways transmit. PTT button, or in this case the charger, connects mic ground to speaker ground.
i did not experience this issue with the build that I did.
Excellent video.
Wanting to do the same and thank you for the parts list.
We are glad that you liked the video and you are welcome for the parts list.
Did you do a video of this working from a distance? I would have thought you would have to metal cage the radios to lessen the chance of deafening the receive.
Thank you for watching. I do not have a video from a working distance at this time.
How did you waterproof the charger USB connections?
You could seal the connection with silicone seal, but that would keep you from unplugging the cables unless you remove the silicone.
@@theoilykrafter But, you made so sure that everything else was waterproofed but the obvious one on the OUTSIDE of the case was unprotected. Didn’t make sense.
@@levinef Thank you for your feedback.
@@levinef That's what I came here to ask too.
Great build. Sadly, I tried this and found that the radios tended to override each other. Granted, I was pushing max output and my channels were closer than I would prefer. I look forward to your follow up to see what you learned in this process that I might glean more success in my efforts to have back-county SAR radio capability.
Thank you!
Thank you. I will be posting Part 2 of the video where I cover the radio programming in the near future.
The frequencies have to have a minimum distance apart so they will not heterodyne.
VHF: 600 KHZ negative.
UHF: 5 MHZ positive.
That is the usual separation.
EDIT: The antennas should also be a minimum of 1/4 wave length apart.
VHF: 2 meters= 6.5 feet.
UHF: 70 centimeters= 2.3 feet.
@@jhutch1470 I've always wondered what frequency override was called.
It makes it hard to learn things when one doesn't know the right words!
Does the transmitting freq need to be negative for VHF or the receiving freq?
I don't understand what you mean by negative and positive.
Thank you SO so much for the great information!!
@@tophattommy2 Oh yeah, sorry. You are correct. The transmit is negative for VHF and positive for UHF. At least that is the usual band plan for ham radios. I tend to stay with what I call industry standards.
It is just called repeater separation.
You can always use one antenna if you use a duplexer, but they are very involved, have to be highly tuned, and use about half your power. They can also be called "tuning cans." Two antennas is always better for low power stuff.
Hope it helps.
@@jhutch1470 This helps greatly! I want to set up a couple "ad-hoc" repeaters that can be packed in for SAR activities that can relay back to IC. For an idea of the remoteness of where I am referring, open a map to 45.000000, -112.000000 and look to the south a bit.
I like your video.
My experience with doing this very sameproject was a jolt to my brain. 3 or 4 trys and i found my sweet spot. Now i did mine for gmrs . I used a much bigger box. I put a 10 ap hour lipo battery in and a bigger solar charger. Now most of the rest isthesame . I did find the charge cables to be a problem .
Did away with them that have the chip and lights.
Plain jane usb cable and no more issues.
Also i used very different antennas .
AND THE ANTENNAS wanted to be about 6 to 8 feet part.
I will be doing a whole new set in a couple months.
I hope that works for how you plan to use it.
Oh oh i found that i am getting approximately 10 to 15 miles coveage in a circle around where i set it up depending on weather its an ht or mobile rig .
Mobile rgs clearly get better rsults.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It is always good to hear from other folks with different experiences so we can learn from one another.
This content is gold.
Thank you. I am glad that you like the video content.
My experience with those little solar panel battery banks is that the solar panel is undersized. It takes about a week in bright Florida sunlight for the power bank to go from 20% to full. A little 10 watt panel is a substantial improvement. A 25 watt panel is more of a beefy solution for this application. You will need a controller with the external solar panel. Sometimes that is included with the small panels. Sometimes it is not. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for watching the video and providing feedback. I agree that bigger is applicable. My goal was to make it as compact and portable as possible.
Thank you for the great detailed video!
You are welcome! Thank you for watching our video.
Nice video. Is the programming video out yet?
Thank you for watching! Here is the link for part 2: Portable Repeater Build, Part 2
ruclips.net/video/ew8D0WcVcmM/видео.html
I have seen several of these repeater builds and I an seeing different requirements for the cross-over cable. One said it just has to have the correct sized connectors. Others say that it has to be mono, not stereo. Only one other one that I viewed said it requires you to cross-over red to white and white to red. Which is it really?
It is a cross over cable. I found a mono 2.5 mm on one end and 3.5 mm on the other end. I cut the cable stripped back the wire and wired the red to the white wire and the white wire to the red wire.
The plug to power the radio what is the #s and where can I find it? Hopefully I can find one with other end a USB to then plug into solar bank.
Can you tell me where you found and what it's called for the sma and so239(?) Plug mounted to box?
Tks
The cables came in the bundle with the radios and antennas. Here is a link to the cable to charge the batteries. amzn.to/3X5Aa1m If you need the batteries and cables try this link amzn.to/3YHk7YQ
Great video! Can you post the Settings for the 2 radios?
RX Radio 3
Using this VFO
VFO B 148.600
Menu 0 SQL 3
Menu 2 TXP Low
Menu 4 VOX Off
Menu 10 R-DCS Off
Menu 11 R-CTCS Off
Menu 12 T-DCS Off
Menu 13 T-CTCS Off
Menu 25 SFT-D -
Menu 26 Offset 000.600
TX Radio4 Settings Using this VFO
VFO A 148.000
Menu 0 SQL 3
Menu 2 TXP Low
Menu 4 VOX 10
Menu 10 R-DCS Off
Menu 11 R-CTCS Off
Menu 12 T-DCS Off
Menu 13 T-CTCS Off
Menu 25 SFT-D Off
Menu 26 Offset 000.600
Radio1 and Radio2 used to test repeater function
Using this VFO
VFO B 148.000
Menu 2 TXP Low
Menu 4 VOX Off
Menu 10 R-DCS Off
Menu 11 R-CTCS Off
Menu 12 T-DCS Off
Menu 13 T-CTCS Off
Menu 25 SFT-D +
Menu 26 Offset 000.600
I was wondering if you had a chance to do any field testing and roughly what would the volume setting be on the input radio?
Potentially each radio is different. I ended up setting the volume about the middle of the range.
I didn't hear you mention that you are going to have to hang that repeater box.
Those radios work on vertical polarization and natural counter poise. The one antenna can be upside down, as long as it is vertical. You will kill almost all of your distance if you keep them horizontal.
Just reminding you is all.
Thanks for the feedback. I agree definitely needs to be mounted vertical.
I was looking to make something like this for our ARES group. Will the solar panel on the battery keep up with say 3 or 4 hours of traffic (not constant, but a fair amount of traffic)? We have had drills where ham radio was the main comms source.
Thank you. I am glad the video helped.
Nice build watching from Philippines
Thank you.
Are you going to do one on the programming of the 2 HT’s?
Thank you for watching! Here is the link for part 2: Portable Repeater Build, Part 2
ruclips.net/video/ew8D0WcVcmM/видео.html
can you do this with just one GD-88?
Thank you for watching. I reviewed the Extendad Manual for the GD-88 and it does mention cross band repeater function. Meaning you can set receive on VHF and transmit on UHF or vice versa.
I’m in the process of making a GMRS version of this for fun. Any tips? Did you have to do anything with the VOX? Mines gonna have the receive antenna about 50’ away from the box but the transmit coming off the box. That way I don’t need a higher watt radio to push through the coax. Simi mobile. Using 2 TD-H8s. Any advice helps.
Yes you will have to make sure that VOX is enabled on the transmit radio.
I had one of those cos-play antennas I bought for UHF CB (477mHZ),
"Bingfu Foldable CS Tactical SMA Female Ham Radio Antenna 2-Pack Dual Band VHF UHF 136-520MHz 42.5 inch Antenna" - 2 for $23, what could go wrong?
up to 520mhz printed on the base yet it had a SWR of 8 with the whip, base by itself was about 1.2 haha...
Be interested to hear what the Arbbree SWR's are?
I will have to attempt to measure the SWR and let you know.
Awesome! I'm in the middle of building this. Where did you get the USB power connector cables from the Battery pack to the radios? Thank you!
The USB power connector cables came in the radio kit that I ordered from Amazon.
Thank yo! For some reason the ones I ordered didn't have it but I found one. Thanks again for a great vid!@@theoilykrafter
Is there a part 2? I programmed the RX to 147.900 and the TX to 147.300 (for the heck of it). Built the kit step by step while watching your vid! Question is do I need to program the R-CTCS and the T-CTCS into each radio including my HT that I'm using for my 'home' radio ? I'm using 88.5 right now. Thank you again for an excellent tutorial! Reed
You are welcome.
Sorry we had some life events that prevented us from completing the part 2 of the video. We will be releasing it in the near future.
Only if your cross banding will this be maybe worth while.. for a same band repeater such as gmrs with only 5mhz offset these radios will desense and trip all over each other without a duplexer. Personal experience.. you need at least -80db seperation between that 5mhz spread to be able to use more than a few watts and its input radio be able to hear anything beyond the transmit radio.
Thank you for your feedback.
I don’t understand shy you reverse polarity of the crossover cable? It’s functionally a crossover by connecting between speaker and mike.
Thank you for your question. The transmit or output of one radio needs to be routed to the input or microphone on the second radio and vice versa.
Great job !!!
Thank you.
what if you have not got enough distance between antennas?
If you don't have enough distance between the antennas you will cut down on teh efficiency of the receive and transmit and can have a negative effect on the finals in your radio.
Please attach the name of item using,
I don't understand your question.
I believe the polarization (horizontal or vertical orientation) of UHF and VHF antennas matter. Since the people using your repeater (your campers) will probably be using their HT vertical (with the antennas up and down), I think you want your repeater's antenna to be vertical. If they are horizontal, I believe you will lose a large part of that gain you said the antenna give you.
You are correct the portable repeater needs to be oriented vertically.
Awesome setup.
Thank you.
Without a duplexer, you'll have a lot of de-sensing of the receiver. But if you make a CROSS BAND repeater this would work better. Two meters in and 70 centimeters out -- or vice versa.
Those wanting to use the repeater will have to set up their VFOs for cross band operation too. But that's trivial to do on most rigs, such as the FT-991A.
Thank you for your feedback.
I thought the radios could not be charged while powered on?
They cannot be in the charging base for sure. That states in the manual that there could be an issue to the radio if you do.
I thought the radios should not be charged while they are on?
I know the manual specifically indicates that while in the charging cradle.
So my question is why two radios why not just purchase a small repeater like a sure com repeater this way it’s all plug-and-play and a lot less wires no need for crossover wire, and then you would only need one antenna or am I missing something but I will say I definitely enjoyed the video and it was very detailed which I appreciate thank you sir
Sorry for the late reply. We didn't receive any notification that we had a comment that needed a response. You could definitely do that. My goal was to see what was needed in order to build one potentially with only parts that I already had on hand.
how about a connection from other radio microphone
Thank you for watching! Here is the link for part 2: Portable Repeater Build, Part 2
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Where is part 2 ??? gonna do this myself.
Thank you for watching1 Here is the link for part 2: Portable Repeater Build, Part 2
ruclips.net/video/ew8D0WcVcmM/видео.html
add more solar power and add cables for the antennae plus gnd kits - then you can mount them higher for more coverage and less interference - generally a good idea just needs some tweaks and users can use liberty to dial it in #yuasa
Thanks for the suggestion. The goal of this build was to keep it as small and compact as possible.
I have one of those battery banks. While it will charge to full via sunlight, it takes about 4-5 days if the battery isn’t being drained by something else.
Thank you for the video though. It’s great. We build, test, then improve.
You are welcome. We are glad to help.
Seems like a slow charge could be advantageous in this application.
@@adampettusyou would think, however from what I’ve seen, this battery may last 2 days and probably less. Unless you’re checking it every day or switching it out, this type of battery will not recharge/recover did give any real longevity.
Hopefully I’m wrong. Other channels doing this same thing also say a much bigger solar panel is required.
Thank you for your knowledge and take your lovely wife for recording
You are welcome. We are happy to share with others.
Congratulations..!!
Thank you.
Great but you have to. mount it vertically. So the tx rx. Aerials. Work correctly
Thank you for watching. I agree the orientation must be vertical. I had it horizontal for testing purposes only.
Part 2????
Sorry! We’re still working on it! Life got in the way!
@@theoilykrafter okay thank you.
Looks like a 2.5mm Mono to 3.5mm Mono Cable you custom Made
Yes it is. There is a link to a 2.5mm mono to 3.5mm mono cable in the description. At 1:30 in the video I talk about the cable. I did have to cut the cable and strip the wire back and then resolder the wires after swapping white and red on one end of the wire. A cross-over cable if you will.
Okay hear me out here. You already made a connector on the box for each antenna, and you could put both connectors anywhere you wanted because it don't matter.
You don't have to mount the antenna on the box at all. I would of figured out how far apart they work good and got a box big enough to store more antenna wire. I would just mount the antenna on separate tree limbs and strapped the box to the tree .
My solar panel would also reguire more wire because I would mount it higher up out into the light and run it into the box too and not on it.
Thank you for the feedback.
@@theoilykrafter You're welcome. I think if both antenna are about 15 feet apart or so and both vertical it should work good. Somewhere between 5 and 10 meters probably.
You worked real hard to make that look professional, but you forgot to take off the label that came on the box when you bought it ... nice setup though. I like it.
Thank you for watching our video! We don't mind that the label is there, we like sharing what we're using with our viewers. Thanks for the compliments!
That solar power bank will NEVER power that repeater. Ask me how I know.
I tried the same idea with a meshtastic setup. With a 10ma draw, in the blazing Florida summer sun, the battery bank was empty in three days. Those solar battery banks are a joke. I updated with a 12" 5v solar panel charging a 8000mah 1s RC car battery. This setup actually worked.
Thank you for your feedback.
why not use a panel connector, drill a small hole and use a nut
Thanks for the reply. I am not sure for which part you are suggesting using a panel connector.
SMA antenna connector
I want to watch how the repeater works
Thank you for watching! Here is the link for part 2: Portable Repeater Build, Part 2
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Why did you go from SMA to UHF and then back to SMA. Why didn't you just stick with SMA for the whole thing?
Probably easier to get a bulk head connector for PL-259 then sma.
Definitely easier to get an SO239 bulkhead connector than an SMA connector. I did find some that were bulkhead connectors for SMA but I didn't like how they mounted. I needed a stable mount for the antennas.
Neat
Thank you
Little 20w duplexer
Thank you for your feedback.
Way back in the late 80's and early 90's my Ham buddies built and operated half a dozen "Repeaters".
We NEVER had to use cheap "toys" from Communist China. And a few of these "Genuine" Repeaters are still going strong! Even after a full third of a Century of hard, daily use.
Thank you for watching the video. This is meant to be a temporary scenario repeater. Like a camping weekend or something simlar.
you dont need 2 antennas
If I add a duplexer you are correct, then I could run a single antenna.
dump the uv5rs ,,,, there junk ,,,,,, get 2 uv13 pro v2 ,,,better receive and kicks out 7.5 watts and 5 dollas cheaper lol or the best radio for transmit would be the Retevis RT86 , best long range radio ive ever had, also that solar panel on that power bank wont cut it
Thank you for your feedback.
You been underwater too long....
repeater callsign? heat build up inside sealed case? remote kill/reset in case repeater locks up?
for emergency ok but not for regular use. some mobile and ht radios offer crossband repeating. my wouxun uv-9kg does. also an option.
You as the operator are responsible for making sure that you are compliant with FCC regulations. I will be covering that in Part 2 of the video that covers programming.
What's your FCC RUclips Task Force badge number?
mountain man just do the same thing with a gmrs radio. you wont have to worry about hams busting your ba***. @@MountainMan7.62x39
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful video 🤩 I am going to make a DMR reapeter for FRO/military here in Sweden when we are in the woods. I have some Anyone AT-D878UV2 Plus 😊
You are welcome.
Great radios. I am getting one soon myself.
Should give your Amateur Radio Call Sign. And talk about what a repeater does.
And purpose of having them. But not interfering with others. Need to mention have to adjust the volume and for input to the output handy talky..
I am planning on Part of the video where I talk about the FCC regulations and radio programming and settings on the radio. The part 1 video is all about just the equipment build.
I don't like giving out my call sign. Too easy to look up. Just looking at the number in your call sign, I can already tell that you are somewhat close to me.
Anyone who was paying attention to his video can see his call sign is on the back of both HT's, "AI5HT". Great video however, I agree with the antenna spacing issue.
You're such a sad ham.
Two walkie talkies is not a repeater or at least not a good one
Thanks for your feedback. This was a project to see if it would work. I am no way recommending using two handhelds as a critical purpose repeater. This would be for an emegency situation and you didn't have a commerical repeater available.
Please keep quiet
Did you have a question ?
A video about grommets.
I don't understand the question\comment.
Don’t waste your time people! 😂
I felt the topic would be useful for some folks.
License 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for watching. Yes you need a license to operate this portable repeater.
There is plenty of information about how far apart the antennas need to be online. Did you do any research or are we just setting money on fire here? Those solar battery banks are also purely a gimmick.
I mean, he is a Boomer so... 😂
Thank you for watching the video. It was not a concern to this point.
I’ve had great success with a solar battery. I’ve never plugged it in to charge it. Always been solar charged. Charges GoPro batteries while I’m out riding.
@ckbhack what a joke you are 😂 at least he is trying to do it what have you done
I’ve tried to find out how far apart antennas need to be and I only found one place that mentioned it. Don’t know if it’s correct but the internet says, one above the other at about two wavelengths separation.
Anyone in Washington state that can help me with this
Are you wanting help to build the repeater ?
I'm in Washington too, been doing a ton of research it doesn't seem too hard. Just have to figure out if you want 1 or 2 radios, there's a few ways to do it. If I get it figured out I'll keep you updated. This video was a ton of help, I'm just gonna wing it and see what happens.