This literally ruined the reputation for those innocent members, now wherever they go they'll be referred to as the "cheater", even if they were innocent:(
@Salsa Bila Re-reading your comment I think I get your point. My first comment was assuming that they were all innocent. Wishful thinking, they might not all be. I'm clueless, so for all I know they were all in on it--I would be VERY surprised if this was the case though. I think I'm safe to say that the agencies and the guys putting on the competition started it all, not the members, so the majority of the blame (if there is any to be had) should not be one the members.
Tbh the one I'm more worried about is Chaeyeon, since she worked so hard to debut since she auditioned for Kpop stars 3, SIXTEEN, and Produce 48. I would feel so bad to see her disband with her fellow members after she finally achieved her dream
tbh this answers a lot of things for how the lineup came to be I was genuinely confused when I saw a lot of the members suddenly make it into the top 12 when they were always lower My reaction seeing it was legit: “wait wHAT” I was so certain some of the others would make it And it makes so much sense that they purposefully had Chaeyeon be the last to create drama I knew something was up omg I still support the group tho
Instead attacking the members. Why don't we attack the producers? Edit: and Mnet I guess?? Who's with me?? Edit: 1.2k likes?? .. Oh god I don't deserve it! Anyways Thank you ♡♡♡
@vitamin V woah calm down! Lets not fight about this.. Well I respect your opinion. Its not their fault at the first place. Its the production that brings problem to them. I just scare with your opinion will make them sad and depress.. Well I just want to give the the chance to be on stage and fullfill their dreams... Its bad that you want to crush down someone else's dream.. Please keep in mind its not their fault.. Its their agencies and the produce production
i just feel bad for the others who deserved the spot more than some of the members in the final lineup... not saying that theyre not talented but some of the members of the final line up are just not ready for debut yet... i honestly feel that their live stages are a bit weak and underwhelming.. there are participants who are more ready to debut but were not given justice. All of the trainees deserved a spot of course, they were all hardworking and amazing! And the thing abt the looks is true too in a way.. some trainees were not korean standard and were overlooked&.. suhwan, one of my favs, was an independent trainee but he was one of the best singer and dancer in the show but he was short and he doesnt exzctly hv korean standard looks( i think hes SO ADORABLE tho, hes too nice for his own good) Jinhyuks spot was robbed (tho as a honey10 i rlly wanted him to come back to up10tion) Thats just my opinion😊
Fans have said this from the start (when Jonghyun and Samuel didn’t get into Wannaone, when Kaeun and Miho didn’t get into Izone, etc...) but many called us delusional. We never hated the members who got in, most of us love and support the groups, but we’ve always found it wrong how the lineups changed drastically on the last episode. That’s mainly the reason why I didn’t bother watching ProduceX101, the rigging was so evident since earlier seasons
I kept telling myself not to watch Produce x 101 (this was after it was revealed that it was rigged) but I ended up watching it and actually was REALLY confused. In Produce 48 I think we could all tell it was rigged bc most of the ppl in higher ranks didn't make it into the line ups but in X1 the ppl who were good in the start made it (idk if you get what I mean) but if ali didn't know the voting was rigged, I would've totally believed it for X1
Wonyoung is always protected, considering the fact that her family is influential and loaded, i don't think wy has even been involved in the corruption made by the producers and starship entertainment. She was just also a mere innocent trainee who was used for izone to be a success. And they did, afterall.
She and other izone members have been getting treatment from a professional psychiatrist for their mental health (they said it themselves) so there's nothing to worry about. It was wy's decision to be an idol as early as her age, she can hold accountable for her actions and i know she's trying to be mature for such situations happening to their group right now.
AOA NEEDS COMEBACK BTS AND X1 ARE KINGS Ikr...they worked so hard to get there sacrificing a ton of stuff just to get disbanded..I don’t want them to disband but sadly it’s reality and they might have to 🥺❤️ I hope X1 and Iz*one are doing okay
i just hope that people wont attack iz*one and x1 or force them to disband as it's seriously not their fault. even though it is unfair in some aspects, from people who didn't make it to the line up that deserved to be in the line up to trainees in the line up that didn't get their proper rank, we should just support iz*one and x1 and come together as a community to bring justice to the trainees who didn't make it who should've
Mate, let me tell you, Korea Public is supporting the members right now. They also trying hard to prevent the disbandment from happening. Eric Nam, Lee Daehwi and Bae Yoonjung also show their support to IZ*ONE. WIZ*ONEs are uniting to support the group and helping One It to give more positive voices to X1.
@@sleeplessnight4738 EXACTLY, Speaking against the company is like getting kicked out of the company or something. Also to mention they are still not adults who can take stand for themselves...
This makes me sad. I’m a Produce Stan and for me to hear all the news is so depressing. I really hope IZ*ONE and X1 will have the same success like I.O.I And Wanna One.
X1 would have been even more succesfull, their debut was already such a big succes eventhough produce x 101 was the least popular season in terms of rating. They were a new era for the produce series and would have been 1 of the top kpop groups of their generation and then this happens ugh i just want this to be solved, i NEED my boys NOW😭
2019 is the worst year for Kpop: Wanna One disbanded Seungri scandal B.I left iKON Pristin disbanded Samuel’s father was killed Sulli’s suicide Hwall left the boyz Woojin left stray kids (one good thing lmao) Wonho left Monsta X Shownu scandal Mina’ anxiety And now this? There is probably much more... Edit: Goo Hara, Wendy injury,...
Dont Forget starshit for paying mnet for airing the audtion on season 1,2,3 and 4 and pushing screentime and evil editing for them in every Episode ,sharshit is care about popular ranking for the Trainess and moneyy And that's way Starship asked to mnet please. Make wonyoung be the lst Place seat and winner
This makes sense why mnet always did “evil” and “selective” editing. I bet not only the votes were rigged but also who was getting screentime already decided. Cos you can rig someone all the way to the final line-up, but if no one knows who they are then they won’t even be popular and people would be even more suspicious. So they need to make sure to give those contestants enough screentime. I know all trainees worked hard despite some of them being rigged into the group, but what a waste of time, effort, stress, sleepless nights, energy etc for those who weren’t part of this and didn’t get to debut if it was already decided by producers that they wouldn’t make it.
But ngl yeah, I thought Kim Minkyu will be on the group because he has the most screen time (no hate) its mnet fault anyways😏🤷🏻♀️ but also the netizens starting to doubt when they notice that the line up is just too perfect🙄 and i dont think that they will disband cuz Iz*one and X1 bring a lot of money on the company that they are on right even tho X1 hasnt sign the contract yet.
i know pm nothing about television production, but as someone who watches a lot of competition shows (not just korean ones) i can say with like 80% certainty that is probably exactly how they edit. i've noticed the winners/finalists/semi-finalists always get the most screentime and are always in the previews, trailers, commercials, etc. the people who make it the farthest are shown a lot right from the very beginning. hell, you can even tell who WON'T survive those first episodes based on the same factors. i couldn't tell you the purpose of this tactic on shows where voting is not involved and winners are chosen by the show's judges; i can only assume it's to make the audience "fall in love" with the winners over the course of the show so by the time it ends you want them to win. 🤷♀️
Lol I think it's completely the opposite. They often tend to give some members more screentime so that they get more popular and then drop them from the final lineup because they gained some popularity and now can survive by themselves, and then often add the members who are talented and deserved to be in the final group but didn't get enough votes to do so. If that's the case we can't even say the selected members don't deserve to be in the final lineup at all!!!
@@rarianexe "because they gained some popularity and now can survive by themselves" you're right, mnet is so righteous, they always think about the poor trainees, it's not like their companies probably pay to remove them from the final lineup or mnet just used their popularity for ratings and dropped them in the final for the drama. /sarcasm
yep, there is pretty solid evidence that some contestants were given little to no screentime with blatant discrimination even occurring at the site. Allegedly, a certain contestant who spoke out against the producers was not given a single second of air time.
I don't think Iz*one will disband, but X1 is still new and haven't all signed their contracts yet. Which could cause their companies to pull them out of the group, avoiding controversy. So, thanks Nathan for your opinion and facts. You are always so helpful dude!!
I have a question.. no hate intended. I'm just curious, if they stay as a group and don't disband, how are they going to promote as a group if they're banned from everything? ://
@@iztonyy Not sure about IZ*ONE, I'm just a casual fan but X1 are banned from music shows except for MCountdown and The Show and they have no CF at all. Not to mention, they had very limited variety show appearances ever since they debuted. Honestly, I feel bad for them, sometimes I just wish the group would disband instead of them being miserable like this. It would get even messier if they won any Rookie awards, I don't even want to imagine how the Knetz will react.
@@johnpaolocarreon5943 Your point? I was talking about how they're gonna survive as a group after the investigation ends since they're banned from everything.
Sakura is a top idol in Japan who has more than proved themselves and this whole thing is so demonstrably disrespectful to her. She could have stayed in Japan but had the grace to humble herself and retrain as a kpop idol and this is her reward for her humility.
Let's all hope that iz*one and X1 don't disband 🤧🥺 F mnet🤬 Edit:January 6 2020 X1 disband 😭😭😭😭😭 🦋Fly high x1🦋 Edit:January 22 2020 YES iz*one is coming back in February I'm so excited my bbys r coming 😭🥺
ML is Life :o I hope both group don’t disband I know it’s your opinion but both groups work really hard to get where they are and just giving it all up is not fair for them
Not surprised but disappointed as a produce fan. I mean Ga Eun dropped out, Yuri suddenly went to no. 3, Won Young won, only 3 Japanese debuted, those were the signs but didn't expect the show to be confirmed rigged now.
Shirley Lu same here we all knew it was matter of time they got caught which is good in a way cuz Mnet needs to stop being corrupted but bad cuz I hate to see the members get their lives ruined :(
almost all survival shows are rigged. They can’t have different type of people end up debuting if it doesn’t fit the concept. Like gaeun - the pledis trainee that debuted before. I heard they removed her out and added 1-2 in that was not in the rank. As much as i like her. She is a bit more mature so not only because of bribery. They would remove her either way cause she looks a bit older than all the other members. The vibe is so much different so im pretty sure even if she would rank 1 they will find out a way to manipulate and remove her.
Yep. In produce x 101. I think Minkyu and Jinhyuk will debut. Minkyu was always in top 10 in 11 eps but In the final, he dropped out and his rank is 17th, Minkyu looks like Gaeun and Jinhyuk looks like Miho, he tried to be high rank but in the final he dropped out. The first, I don't think Minhee and Hangul will debut .That is a big joke.
@@tramjamjam Im a Oneit and like I love X1 and top 20 wanted them all to debut but if he didnt get in top 10 MInkyu or Jungmo would've gotten 11th not Eunsang . Minkyu was in 2nd or 3rd i believe at some point along with Jungmo Eunsang got high placing but never higher than both of them.
Flower Power manipulating will always be there in all business and entertainment. This scandal will not stop rigging on other shows. They will just be more careful 😂
iz*one and x1 shouldn’t disband but unfortunately X1 did early this year (2020) i am very empathetic towards them and i wish all of the members of x1 the best. Iz*One on the other hand might disband within 2 years because of contract expiration. I hope all of these talented idols get to continue doing what they love. It is heartbreaking seeing that these innocent idols had to go through controversy and disband because of cheating most of them were unaware of. I wish them all the best!!
Teriyaki BLINK yeah i know. I wish that producer that manipulated would go jail for long but it look like he wont and also all those entertainment company like starship and mk would get in trouble but they didn’t. They kept appealing and the court date keep getting retrial. Probably just a slap on the risk and some are scapegoats getting the blame. When you got connections and big money ... reduces the crime penalty is easy. My family experience that before first handed. And i always knew these survival programs are most likely rigged because of business. They there to make money not let the citizen votes controls all the outcome. Like gaeun from pledis supposed to be from the final list but they manipulate and removed her out to get the trainees they wanted. Gaeun also doesn’t fit with the cute concept and the vibe of the other 11 members so removing her out was purely business.
Apparently they are going to disband on April 2021 (talking bout IZ*ONE) it been 2 years already since they debuted in 2018.. :( I don’t want them to disband
what MNET did is wrong but the trainees who already debut in IZ*ONE or X1 and those who are still trainees are also victims too, they don't deserve to disband, lets support everyone and give much love to those trainees that deserve it! support JinHyuk solo, Up10tion, Victon and everyone as well
Amy Mnet is the only one at fault here.... Why isn’t anyone upset about the idols(X1/Izone) company’s doing shady shit behind the scenes to get the votes rigged?? They’re the ones who gave their idols false positions in the voting anyways.
Unfortunately supporting the artists means supporting the company that aided the rigging. Trust me when I tell you the lion's share of the money made goes to that company and not to the artists. I'd MUCH rather the artists be released from their contracts so they can then contract with someone else. These artists already have dedicated fans and have proven themselves capable of selling albums. I see no reason for other companies to refuse them.
I still hope that comeback of Iz*one will return because I dont care about the scandals. They are a group which a lot of people love and I think that is important. Btw Sakura is my bias too 🌸😭
If you are a true fan you should care about the scandals!! Some Koreans already start a petition to ban both izone and x1 permanently. How are they supposed to have another comeback if they are banned permanently and you don't care about the scandals!!?
@@davidsine5454 if hes a true fan what he is hoping for is nothing wrong but a natural reaction for a true fan. There are lots of fans who dont want the grps to disband despite receiving hate and they will love the grp whats so wrong with that? The reason ppl are fans is cuz grps exist leading to fandoms being made.
I just wanted to say that scandals means nothing for me bcs I just dont want to see Iz*one disband. They havent released a lot of songs imo and I want mooore
You can't rigged sold out concerts and albums sales. izone is really great group. If they disband this group before their contract ends they're gonna hear a lot of hate from fans worldwide.
THESE ARE EMPLOYEES WHO WERE ABUSED BY THE COMPANY. They all deserve to be treated as VICTIMS of greedy corporate management (just like any employee) .
i've been dreading this video. I hope it gets figured out fast as i've been looking forward to their new album for a while. Hopes and prayers for both groups. Thanks for covering this.
Lee Gaeun was like in the top five everytime in produce 48 and suddenly finished 14th in the last episode. On the other hand, Chaewon jumped from 19th to 10th and the last episode was her first time in the debuting position
same as me!!!but i was suprise by all sudden that I think they will remove the members..and one more thing is they just cancelled our X1 perfomance even OneIts already buy the luxury tickets I was like "WTF IS WRONG WITH MNET AND CJ ENM" THAT WAS(i think i was far enough i already curse) **sorry for that i mean sorry for what i'm saying...
I really don’t want them to disband i mean who doesn’t!!!! Mnet are snakes. Sakura could had the #1 but they don’t want foreigner to win a Korean survival show
@cesar garces she got an A bc she was the most determined out of all the japanese trainees. Sakura is madly popular not only in Japan but around the world, and she was indeed popular in Korea too! Sakura should have been #1 and PERIOD.
I actually watched all seasons of Produce and PD48 was really that chaotic season. If you knew the amount of shocked people after watching it. Lol, even Somi and the trainers are shocked at the final result, you can see their reaction when Sakura didn't became first and Kaeun didn't make the final line-up. It's more surprising to know that people are actually shocked that those seasons are not rigged.
Jeez, I just feel so bad for the members of both groups - they aren’t the ones to be faulted and yet they are going to suffer the most. I really hope that their fans will rally for them and that the support for them to stay together will be overwhelming... I know that’s probably impossible since Korean culture seems to revolve around saving face but it’s really not fair to the members of the two groups, fans aside. One could argue that it’s not fair to the other contestants who competed on the show, and while that may be true, what’s done is done. The groups have been wildly popular and the members have worked so, so hard. My heart goes out to them.
So when someone that you love embezzels money will you say 'what's done is done'? This, is the real world, people who do bad things will be punished, these are facts not feelings.
@@alocasean I didn't say anything about the members. I was saying the companies involved have committed crime and should be punished. Those trainees and family who suffered should be given compensation or get to debut. Also regardless of where or not the members of both groups knew or not those who benefit have to leave or the groups disband.
Vivienne Hensler Of course we dont want them to disband, just keep praying and everything will be ok. Be positive because its possible that they can be a permanent group. Be strong and always support IZ*ONE
I was today years old when i found out Iz*one is pronounced Iz*one and not I*Zone...(never listened or watched them, only ever saw the name pop up on YT or Twitter) I feel dumb now :D
No, please don't feel dumb...trust me , you are not the only person that pronounced it that way by far. I have been trying to get folks to understand how to say it since they debuted.
If the groups continue to keep going, they'll get hate and backlash especially from Knetz knowing that the votes were rigged. I don't think these idols are to blame and PDs just fxxxd it up so hard. It's unfair for both parties (the current final line-up and the 'true' winners.)
7:37 - 8:02 the article shown in the video actually was fake news. It's from koreaboo, the kpop news site that writes articles without checking the truth of it. "An insider from off the record" won't be saying any of that shit. MNET has said there has been no discussion of disbandment yet.
@@philipschrute8487 thanks for the news, I'm not following these pages and I was surprised by this statement knowing the boys just came back from Bangkok in 2 days... I hope if they sit it out it will mean no harm for them but if they proceed to be on the year end shows they will got a lot of backlash. At least I think this way...
Poor young idols... Imagine how their parents felt about this, I'd go on rage if I were them, because these nasty producers and agencies are literally ruining their sons' and daughters' future and career smh
why no one commenting about one of the producer of the show got arrested bcs he accepted sex services from trainees agencies?? and we didn't even know yet if those agencies trainees are debuted as IZ*ONE or X1 or not
When SKE48’s Matsui Jurina got rank B and HKT48’s Sakura got rank A I suspected it was rigged, when Sakura didn’t get rank number 1 I knew it was rigged for sure
andre1vilca what does ranking a or b have to do with anything that is based on the coach’s evaluation of their skills but the audience might think differently
Jurina never fit their standards of A if that's what you were referring to . Usually if that's the case. It's usually because of the singing since she used heavy playback and the trainers hear their voice (w/o playback) while dancing . Sakura getting A is like Somi getting A . Star quality 😂
What’s wrong with Sakura being 2nd? I mean she was VERY happy and THANKFUL to debut with Chaeyeon even though she is 2nd, and tbh she is OVER RATED so why don’t give other trainees chance to be center in the group? I’m not hating on SakuChan but it’s just that She is really famous back then in variety tv shows that’s why she is popular
@@Riesjen isn't it the same as Wonyoung ? Being overrated ? But it just never bothers anyone that time that Wonyoung was 8th on the 3rd elimination then got 1st LOL . They should have made either Chaeyeon or idk Chaewon if they were rigging it
The fact that every single season has had a form of voting manipulation is crazy. I feel so bad for every single person that didn't make it and did make it into the groups. These companies use these trainees like pawns just to make a quick buck. I hope neither group disbands, I hope we get the reunions we're waiting for, and I hope p101 japan (which I believe mnet doesnt actually have any control over... thankfully) runs smoothly, along with the other survival shows that are still on going. This whole thing is a mess and the members getting hate from day one and even more now... it's sad. I feel bad
i feel soprry for everyone in produce and the people who votes for their picks who got out from rigged voting, everyone was a victim here except the producers of produce
IZ*ONE and X1 should continue and be managed by the company currently managing the group directly. All money that mnet was supposed to recieved should be directly be to the company, idol's companies or the idols themselves. Unless there is evidence that they knew, then they should not be attacked like this.
The companies are being investigated as well. Bribes had to come from somewhere so theyre trying to see who did what. Personally, I have a feeling X1 are basically done and I hope the members will be able to debut again with other groups/companies. Iz*one is a much harder situation to derermine. Regardless, I feel horrible for all the artists & trainees. They're the victins in all this.
I saw IzOne at Kcon LA and they slayed it. Regardless of the scandal, they are amazing artists and I really, really hope that they will all be cleared of wrongdoing in a public way so that they can keep going.
Robert B.W I feel like if Gauen was added to the group instead of Wonyoung, the vibe would feel very different and I think Wonyoung fits the group more
As much as i like her. She is a bit more mature so not only because of bribery. They would remove her either way cause she looks a bit older than all the other members. The vibe is so much different so im pretty sure even if she would rank 1 they will find out a way to manipulate and remove her.
@@dy578 I'm pretty sure that no idols knew about this rigging thing, only the companies and the producer, so they are the only ones to blame on, not the idols
@@ismaelisaaccaganap6824 how you so sure about ? No you might be right, cause producers don't want more Japanese idols in group because of that they replace Sakura with wonyoung for center position.
I recently started stanning IZ*ONE when X1 came out. I think the groups should keep going and not at the same time because these young idols have a lot of potential but if they keep going, they’re going to get a lot of pressure. Especially for the young members such as Wonyoung and Dohyun. I love both groups so much and it would be really really dejected or sorrowful to see these successful groups go ): but, I also think it’s up to the members to decide whether they want to keep going or stay as a group. Whatever the outcome is, I will forever support!
I legit didn’t watch the recent season of Produce 101 when it came out cuz I was still heart broken over Wanna One and didn’t want to like a group just for them to disband so soon. Once I found out X1 had a 5 year contract I thought I was safe to stan cuz I wouldn’t get my heart broken so quickly...guess I could be wrong lol
I've never been such a fanboy since Izone ... It really hurts my heart when I hear that the girls are getting hate ... They didn't do anything they are victims of that ! (same for the X1 members). I don't want them to disband, because they are so perfect together, complicity, friendship, they have to stay together. And I was not prepared for the "real" disband, so I'm clearly not prepared now. For Izone, they prooved to everyone that everyone in this group is here for a reason. it will not be a good solution to disband. (I've never wrote a comment with only my heart like that before haha)
In the perfect world, they should as they're also a victim. in the dumb heartless Kmedia world, even innocent people being portrayed like they're the worst criminal for the sake of "clickbait" news
I love both of the groups so much!!!! No matter what happens to them i'll be there to love and support them, i hope they'll be able to fight through this
I am a huge OneIt and all I want to say is that we need to give our full support to IZ*ONE and X1. ❤️ We need to be strong for both groups. Fly High! 🦋
I’m a huge one it too and i’m seriously so scared, everyday, the entire day long i just think about x1 and what will happen to them, i’m so scared, i seriously won’t be able to cope if they disband or if some members pull out since they haven’t signed their contracts yet or if this goes on for much longer😭
almost all survival shows are rigged. They can’t have different type of people end up debuting if it doesn’t fit the concept. Like gaeun - the pledis trainee that debuted before. I heard they removed her out and added 1-2 in that was not in the rank. As much as i like her. She is a bit more mature so not only because of bribery. They would remove her either way cause she looks a bit older than all the other members. The vibe is so much different so im pretty sure even if she would rank 1 they will find out a way to manipulate and remove her.
2:53 yes, 'aishiteru (あいしてる)' does mean 'i love you' but that word is only used for very VERY special occasions (e.g. proposals). for normal times that aren't that intimate, you can use 'suki (すき)' which means 'i like you' 'daisuki (だいすき)' which means 'i really like you'
This is all so heart breaking, seeing my 2 favorite groups which I love with all my heart being so hated and getting basically all the blame for something they can't control just makes me break down in tears. I was so excited just a few days ago while waiting for izone's comeback and now I just worry everyday about their future. It's not fair man
101 talented boys and girls, I had my own picks during the show and I know how hard it is to witness their dreams getting shattered when they have been putting their everything in it. Some of my favorite trainees didn't make it but I'm satisfied with the current line up. We must not blame the kids, mnet is the one at fault. One its and Wiz*one let us all do our best and give these groups the love they deserve.
And that's the reason why I never watch the survival show. I'm way too much of a softie for these. I just sit it out and decide to love the group or not. Funny, Wanna one wasn't my thing but X1 seemed more balanced, although Yohan was the first they didn't put him in the center all the time and I liked it like this. I feel bad for them...
i think this started in season 2. they even accidentally released a different final version of the final 11 at the end of the show and then covered it up to say it was a model of the “projected” winners
I've only watched 3 survival shows so far (and kinda became my ults): Stray Kids, Treasure Box and Produce X 101. The first; a member leaves the group. The second; doesn't even debut. And the third may disband. WTF!!! WHYYYYYY!! whY
Let's think like this.. The debute member or the trainee that fail to be iz*one or x1.. they all on the same position, they didn't know about the manipulating system.. It really make me feel so sad 😿, i hope they can survive until the contract expires.. BTW thanks Nathan for creating this content, I hope everyone will understand the suffering of the members 😊
With regards to IZ One - Vampire: The costumes are incredible, the castle interior is incredible. The sound quality and musicianship are absolutely top-notch. The accuracy on everything is perfect. The camera work is incredible. The girls are very beautiful. I've played it over 20 times on my keyboard. I think that video is a masterpiece.
Even tho most of my picks didn't make the final line-up (Hyunbin, Kookheon, Yuvin, Sihun, BaekJin and a few others) I still love my X1 boys and I don't want them to go through all this mess, cause I think ALL of the members have proved to be worthy of their spot
Omg I feel so bad for the trainees not the members really because at least they knew what it felt like to debut but imagine being a trainee, working you butt off, not sleeping, being stressed with your parts, telling yourself that if you work really hard anything is possible and not even having a chance cause all the members were decided from the beginning. Dammm 💔
what they did to x1 is never getting forgotten. to this day i can't believe it. i was very afraid for iz*one, but they are getting comeback soon, so that's the only good news. really hoping for better ending for x1.
This is so heartbreaking. I’ve watched produce 48 & produce x 101 and rooted for these members. I really anticipated IZ*ONE and X1’s performance in award shows this year. 😭
Imagine working your ass off to debut, then actually debuting only to disband shortly after because the voting was rigged and you had to ask yourself if you're really talented and if you really deserved the chance to debut. not to mention at a young age too....
AKB48 has/had WAY more than 134 members when you consider that SKE, NMB, HKT, and NGT members ALL appeared on the show too as AKB48 group. The number is closer to 300. Sakura and Nako who made it into IZ*ONE aren't even main branch AKB48 members (though they held temporary positions in the main branch as well as their home group HKT48 for a couple years).
i remembered when i watched the final episode of produce 48 and being shocked af by the result. i thought i was cold hearted when i feel the like the voting result was manipulated. oh boy i was right ._.
you forgot to mention in 5:55 Han Seungwoo from Victon he is the main vocal and leader in both groups its so unfair for these kids, finally debuting and now forcing a hiatus personally i wish they'd let Seungwoo promote with his Victon members at least, in the meantime the same goes for the other kids that already had a group before redebuting members of x1 are banned from promoting with their original groups for 2.5 years since debut and thats really ugly
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Hope you all enjoyed and learned a little bit of what is happening with IZ*ONE and X1. What do you think will happen? And where my Sakura stans at!?
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Sakura is queen.fight me
Please do one on BoA
here!!!!
This literally ruined the reputation for those innocent members, now wherever they go they'll be referred to as the "cheater", even if they were innocent:(
To call them 'cheaters' is just stupid! They didn't cheat--the greedy SOBs who rigged the votes are at fault here!
@Salsa Bila Maybe they all ARE one hundred percent innocent. How is that anything like calling all of them 100% guilty?
@Salsa Bila Re-reading your comment I think I get your point. My first comment was assuming that they were all innocent. Wishful thinking, they might not all be. I'm clueless, so for all I know they were all in on it--I would be VERY surprised if this was the case though. I think I'm safe to say that the agencies and the guys putting on the competition started it all, not the members, so the majority of the blame (if there is any to be had) should not be one the members.
Tzuyu no, the girls knew they were selected. They’re just as guilty.
@@EyeSayUhh92 Proof.
Tbh the one I'm more worried about is Chaeyeon, since she worked so hard to debut since she auditioned for Kpop stars 3, SIXTEEN, and Produce 48. I would feel so bad to see her disband with her fellow members after she finally achieved her dream
Why tf would Mnet put her in 12 place 🤬 she was clearly top 5
I know :( her votes were manipulate as well just to create more drama it was obvious. Seriously I hate mnet so much right now.
And I am sure kaneun chowon and Miru were in the group point blank periodddd
tbh this answers a lot of things for how the lineup came to be
I was genuinely confused when I saw a lot of the members suddenly make it into the top 12 when they were always lower
My reaction seeing it was legit: “wait wHAT”
I was so certain some of the others would make it
And it makes so much sense that they purposefully had Chaeyeon be the last to create drama
I knew something was up omg
I still support the group tho
I definitely don't think that she would leave forever anyway, though it would be sad, I'm sure WM would put her in a group immediately
Instead attacking the members. Why don't we attack the producers?
Edit: and Mnet I guess??
Who's with me??
Edit: 1.2k likes?? .. Oh god I don't deserve it! Anyways Thank you ♡♡♡
Yaasss!
Someone make this a top comment ffs
@vitamin V woah calm down! Lets not fight about this.. Well I respect your opinion. Its not their fault at the first place. Its the production that brings problem to them. I just scare with your opinion will make them sad and depress.. Well I just want to give the the chance to be on stage and fullfill their dreams... Its bad that you want to crush down someone else's dream..
Please keep in mind its not their fault.. Its their agencies and the produce production
i just feel bad for the others who deserved the spot more than some of the members in the final lineup... not saying that theyre not talented but some of the members of the final line up are just not ready for debut yet... i honestly feel that their live stages are a bit weak and underwhelming.. there are participants who are more ready to debut but were not given justice. All of the trainees deserved a spot of course, they were all hardworking and amazing!
And the thing abt the looks is true too in a way.. some trainees were not korean standard and were overlooked&.. suhwan, one of my favs, was an independent trainee but he was one of the best singer and dancer in the show but he was short and he doesnt exzctly hv korean standard looks( i think hes SO ADORABLE tho, hes too nice for his own good)
Jinhyuks spot was robbed (tho as a honey10 i rlly wanted him to come back to up10tion)
Thats just my opinion😊
I mean, that was my initial plan HAHA
Fans have said this from the start (when Jonghyun and Samuel didn’t get into Wannaone, when Kaeun and Miho didn’t get into Izone, etc...) but many called us delusional. We never hated the members who got in, most of us love and support the groups, but we’ve always found it wrong how the lineups changed drastically on the last episode. That’s mainly the reason why I didn’t bother watching ProduceX101, the rigging was so evident since earlier seasons
I kept telling myself not to watch Produce x 101 (this was after it was revealed that it was rigged) but I ended up watching it and actually was REALLY confused. In Produce 48 I think we could all tell it was rigged bc most of the ppl in higher ranks didn't make it into the line ups but in X1 the ppl who were good in the start made it (idk if you get what I mean) but if ali didn't know the voting was rigged, I would've totally believed it for X1
Don't forget Miyu
Anyone else think that it was weird Jang Moon Bok from ep 1 suddenly falls?
Rabi Ali I really thought Minkyu was gonna make it to X1
@@ddkong3_3 I thought so as well 😭
Imagine wonyoung, a 15 year old girl surrounded by monsters trying to exploit youngsters... disgusting.
Poor girl. She got screwed by corporation management before she reached age of maturity. SMH SMH SMH
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Wonyoung is always protected, considering the fact that her family is influential and loaded, i don't think wy has even been involved in the corruption made by the producers and starship entertainment. She was just also a mere innocent trainee who was used for izone to be a success. And they did, afterall.
She and other izone members have been getting treatment from a professional psychiatrist for their mental health (they said it themselves) so there's nothing to worry about. It was wy's decision to be an idol as early as her age, she can hold accountable for her actions and i know she's trying to be mature for such situations happening to their group right now.
Why don't we talk about all the trainees'?!
WIZ*NET OFFICIAL then comment about it dumb fuck
I feel bad for my main picks Yohan, who sacrificed his sports career, Seungyoun who did his best to debut again.
Seungyoun dreaming of being successful like now since 2014😭
U forgot hangyul who did not get into the final grp of the UNIT as he was ranked 11 and the UNIT only took 9 members.
@@mrtwosides3222 Yes, I also feel bad for him, and also for everyone :(
i feel bad for everyone tbh they all had their own struggle...
AOA NEEDS COMEBACK BTS AND X1 ARE KINGS Ikr...they worked so hard to get there sacrificing a ton of stuff just to get disbanded..I don’t want them to disband but sadly it’s reality and they might have to 🥺❤️ I hope X1 and Iz*one are doing okay
i just hope that people wont attack iz*one and x1 or force them to disband as it's seriously not their fault. even though it is unfair in some aspects, from people who didn't make it to the line up that deserved to be in the line up to trainees in the line up that didn't get their proper rank, we should just support iz*one and x1 and come together as a community to bring justice to the trainees who didn't make it who should've
Mate, let me tell you, Korea Public is supporting the members right now. They also trying hard to prevent the disbandment from happening. Eric Nam, Lee Daehwi and Bae Yoonjung also show their support to IZ*ONE. WIZ*ONEs are uniting to support the group and helping One It to give more positive voices to X1.
BRUHH BIHHH nah they should disband, some members are only there because they cheat there way into stardom
@@beckembrown7002 but most of those members didn't even know that they were cheated into the group.
@@rarianexe and even if they knew, I don't think they can do anything because they have to follow whatever shits their company ask right?
@@sleeplessnight4738 EXACTLY, Speaking against the company is like getting kicked out of the company or something. Also to mention they are still not adults who can take stand for themselves...
This makes me sad. I’m a Produce Stan and for me to hear all the news is so depressing. I really hope IZ*ONE and X1 will have the same success like I.O.I And Wanna One.
X1 would have been even more succesfull, their debut was already such a big succes eventhough produce x 101 was the least popular season in terms of rating. They were a new era for the produce series and would have been 1 of the top kpop groups of their generation and then this happens ugh i just want this to be solved, i NEED my boys NOW😭
Izones popularity already crossed iois along time ago
I.O.I and wanna one are rigged group
@@도레미솔라시다 their successors are
김재범 they’re not. 🤷🏻♂️
2019 is the worst year for Kpop:
Wanna One disbanded
Seungri scandal
B.I left iKON
Pristin disbanded
Samuel’s father was killed
Sulli’s suicide
Hwall left the boyz
Woojin left stray kids (one good thing lmao)
Wonho left Monsta X
Shownu scandal
Mina’ anxiety
And now this?
There is probably much more...
Edit: Goo Hara, Wendy injury,...
Teodora D Goo Hara's death:''(
2020 is waving
And 2nd worst is prolly 2014 (search 2014 worst year for kpop on RUclips)
The confused Theorist UwU yeah agree
Jihyo and Daniel dated. But I'm cry about Woojin left Stray kids and X1 disband :((((
Other country: Trash can or Trash bin
S. Korea: Mnet
And yg
Michela I agree😢
@@r.a.n.d.o.m.8.4.5 ahh yess
@Nikki Rabang you're right
Dont Forget starshit for paying mnet for airing the audtion on season 1,2,3 and 4 and pushing screentime and evil editing for them in every Episode ,sharshit is care about popular ranking for the Trainess and moneyy
And that's way Starship asked to mnet please. Make wonyoung be the lst Place seat and winner
In conclusion it’s old men benefiting of young people for money
This makes sense why mnet always did “evil” and “selective” editing. I bet not only the votes were rigged but also who was getting screentime already decided. Cos you can rig someone all the way to the final line-up, but if no one knows who they are then they won’t even be popular and people would be even more suspicious. So they need to make sure to give those contestants enough screentime.
I know all trainees worked hard despite some of them being rigged into the group, but what a waste of time, effort, stress, sleepless nights, energy etc for those who weren’t part of this and didn’t get to debut if it was already decided by producers that they wouldn’t make it.
But ngl yeah, I thought Kim Minkyu will be on the group because he has the most screen time (no hate) its mnet fault anyways😏🤷🏻♀️ but also the netizens starting to doubt when they notice that the line up is just too perfect🙄 and i dont think that they will disband cuz Iz*one and X1 bring a lot of money on the company that they are on right even tho X1 hasnt sign the contract yet.
i know pm nothing about television production, but as someone who watches a lot of competition shows (not just korean ones) i can say with like 80% certainty that is probably exactly how they edit. i've noticed the winners/finalists/semi-finalists always get the most screentime and are always in the previews, trailers, commercials, etc. the people who make it the farthest are shown a lot right from the very beginning. hell, you can even tell who WON'T survive those first episodes based on the same factors.
i couldn't tell you the purpose of this tactic on shows where voting is not involved and winners are chosen by the show's judges; i can only assume it's to make the audience "fall in love" with the winners over the course of the show so by the time it ends you want them to win. 🤷♀️
Lol I think it's completely the opposite. They often tend to give some members more screentime so that they get more popular and then drop them from the final lineup because they gained some popularity and now can survive by themselves, and then often add the members who are talented and deserved to be in the final group but didn't get enough votes to do so. If that's the case we can't even say the selected members don't deserve to be in the final lineup at all!!!
@@rarianexe "because they gained some popularity and now can survive by themselves" you're right, mnet is so righteous, they always think about the poor trainees, it's not like their companies probably pay to remove them from the final lineup or mnet just used their popularity for ratings and dropped them in the final for the drama.
/sarcasm
yep, there is pretty solid evidence that some contestants were given little to no screentime with blatant discrimination even occurring at the site. Allegedly, a certain contestant who spoke out against the producers was not given a single second of air time.
I don't think Iz*one will disband, but X1 is still new and haven't all signed their contracts yet. Which could cause their companies to pull them out of the group, avoiding controversy.
So, thanks Nathan for your opinion and facts. You are always so helpful dude!!
I have a question.. no hate intended. I'm just curious, if they stay as a group and don't disband, how are they going to promote as a group if they're banned from everything? ://
Well there not banned from promoting ,they just wont promote for a while. Im guessing.
@@iztonyy Not sure about IZ*ONE, I'm just a casual fan but X1 are banned from music shows except for MCountdown and The Show and they have no CF at all. Not to mention, they had very limited variety show appearances ever since they debuted. Honestly, I feel bad for them, sometimes I just wish the group would disband instead of them being miserable like this. It would get even messier if they won any Rookie awards, I don't even want to imagine how the Knetz will react.
i really hope this is the case
@@johnpaolocarreon5943 Your point? I was talking about how they're gonna survive as a group after the investigation ends since they're banned from everything.
Sakura is a top idol in Japan who has more than proved themselves and this whole thing is so demonstrably disrespectful to her. She could have stayed in Japan but had the grace to humble herself and retrain as a kpop idol and this is her reward for her humility.
Sakura actually came to korea so she could improve, she knew she was only in HKT48 because of her looks so she wanted to be famous for other reasons.
she's so cold
i don't like her at all.
>learns to say Ai shiteiru in Japanese
>pronounces Sakura as Sokura
Man you gotta have your priorities
SAKKRAA..
SASSKEE..
NARTOOO..
@@itzymegamonsterrookie1453 All wrong spellings
@@AlvinaYunoa r/wooosh
Let's all hope that iz*one and X1 don't disband 🤧🥺
F mnet🤬
Edit:January 6 2020
X1 disband 😭😭😭😭😭
🦋Fly high x1🦋
Edit:January 22 2020
YES iz*one is coming back in February I'm so excited my bbys r coming 😭🥺
ML is Life :o I hope both group don’t disband I know it’s your opinion but both groups work really hard to get where they are and just giving it all up is not fair for them
@ML is Life tbh BOTH groups are rlly hard working and x1 and iz*one deserve the world both groups shouldn't dis*band
ML is Life why?
I mean...they will disband, but lets hope it happens when its supposed to
@ML is Life they are family..
They are both victims so please don't say this..
If we’re gonna disband any one, it’s gonna be MNET
Ikr
LMFAO MNET NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN
👏🏼😂
Not surprised but disappointed as a produce fan. I mean Ga Eun dropped out, Yuri suddenly went to no. 3, Won Young won, only 3 Japanese debuted, those were the signs but didn't expect the show to be confirmed rigged now.
Shirley Lu same here we all knew it was matter of time they got caught which is good in a way cuz Mnet needs to stop being corrupted but bad cuz I hate to see the members get their lives ruined :(
almost all survival shows are rigged. They can’t have different type of people end up debuting if it doesn’t fit the concept. Like gaeun - the pledis trainee that debuted before. I heard they removed her out and added 1-2 in that was not in the rank. As much as i like her. She is a bit more mature so not only because of bribery. They would remove her either way cause she looks a bit older than all the other members. The vibe is so much different so im pretty sure even if she would rank 1 they will find out a way to manipulate and remove her.
Yep. In produce x 101. I think Minkyu and Jinhyuk will debut. Minkyu was always in top 10 in 11 eps but In the final, he dropped out and his rank is 17th, Minkyu looks like Gaeun and Jinhyuk looks like Miho, he tried to be high rank but in the final he dropped out. The first, I don't think Minhee and Hangul will debut .That is a big joke.
@@tramjamjam Im a Oneit and like I love X1 and top 20 wanted them all to debut but if he didnt get in top 10 MInkyu or Jungmo would've gotten 11th not Eunsang . Minkyu was in 2nd or 3rd i believe at some point along with Jungmo Eunsang got high placing but never higher than both of them.
Flower Power manipulating will always be there in all business and entertainment. This scandal will not stop rigging on other shows. They will just be more careful 😂
iz*one and x1 shouldn’t disband but unfortunately X1 did early this year (2020) i am very empathetic towards them and i wish all of the members of x1 the best. Iz*One on the other hand might disband within 2 years because of contract expiration. I hope all of these talented idols get to continue doing what they love. It is heartbreaking seeing that these innocent idols had to go through controversy and disband because of cheating most of them were unaware of. I wish them all the best!!
john tran they iz one didn’t disband
Teriyaki BLINK yeah i know. I wish that producer that manipulated would go jail for long but it look like he wont and also all those entertainment company like starship and mk would get in trouble but they didn’t. They kept appealing and the court date keep getting retrial. Probably just a slap on the risk and some are scapegoats getting the blame. When you got connections and big money ... reduces the crime penalty is easy. My family experience that before first handed.
And i always knew these survival programs are most likely rigged because of business. They there to make money not let the citizen votes controls all the outcome. Like gaeun from pledis supposed to be from the final list but they manipulate and removed her out to get the trainees they wanted. Gaeun also doesn’t fit with the cute concept and the vibe of the other 11 members so removing her out was purely business.
Apparently they are going to disband on April 2021 (talking bout IZ*ONE) it been 2 years already since they debuted in 2018.. :( I don’t want them to disband
what MNET did is wrong but the trainees who already debut in IZ*ONE or X1 and those who are still trainees are also victims too, they don't deserve to disband, lets support everyone and give much love to those trainees that deserve it! support JinHyuk solo, Up10tion, Victon and everyone as well
yes, indeed
Amy
Mnet is the only one at fault here.... Why isn’t anyone upset about the idols(X1/Izone) company’s doing shady shit behind the scenes to get the votes rigged?? They’re the ones who gave their idols false positions in the voting anyways.
@@hakuei4171 "The company" not the members themselves. They are trainees, what bribes can they possibly offer, think about it.
but how would you feel knowing that you stole someone else's spot undeservedly? (this applies more to x1 since the contract is 5 years?!!??)
Unfortunately supporting the artists means supporting the company that aided the rigging. Trust me when I tell you the lion's share of the money made goes to that company and not to the artists.
I'd MUCH rather the artists be released from their contracts so they can then contract with someone else. These artists already have dedicated fans and have proven themselves capable of selling albums. I see no reason for other companies to refuse them.
I still hope that comeback of Iz*one will return because I dont care about the scandals. They are a group which a lot of people love and I think that is important. Btw Sakura is my bias too 🌸😭
If you are a true fan you should care about the scandals!! Some Koreans already start a petition to ban both izone and x1 permanently. How are they supposed to have another comeback if they are banned permanently and you don't care about the scandals!!?
@@davidsine5454 I think you misunderstand Sunny. They are saying that they will love Iz*one no matter what, regardless of the scandals.
@@davidsine5454 if hes a true fan what he is hoping for is nothing wrong but a natural reaction for a true fan. There are lots of fans who dont want the grps to disband despite receiving hate and they will love the grp whats so wrong with that? The reason ppl are fans is cuz grps exist leading to fandoms being made.
I just wanted to say that scandals means nothing for me bcs I just dont want to see Iz*one disband. They havent released a lot of songs imo and I want mooore
I JUST WANT MY BLOOMIZ :( THEY CAN DISBAND AFTER BUT I WANT IT TO RELEASE ;---; ahhh #StayWithIZONE
You can't rigged sold out concerts and albums sales. izone is really great group. If they disband this group before their contract ends they're gonna hear a lot of hate from fans worldwide.
THESE ARE EMPLOYEES WHO WERE ABUSED BY THE COMPANY. They all deserve to be treated as VICTIMS of greedy corporate management (just like any employee)
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A disbandment seems to be the only choice. In any competition, when one wins illegally(knowingly or unknowingly) they are disqualified.
Imagine finding out your group member got in because of bribery. Trust will be tense
True
it is pretty sad what’s happening to the members, with their whole careers ahead of them to just hang in the balance
i've been dreading this video. I hope it gets figured out fast as i've been looking forward to their new album for a while.
Hopes and prayers for both groups.
Thanks for covering this.
2019 is the worst year of kpop fans
nabila biantara indeed, and the year isnt over yet. Too many scandals!
2014 too😢😢😢😩😩
that's true...too much scandals , hating , depression , and distracted
Trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Only for cheaters. My favs shined.
kinda obvious it was rigged, Sakura not getting first was the biggest hint
Also Miu trending #1 with every fancam not being in the line-up was the second biggest
true, and also sakura isnt the second center of izone :(
Also Hyewon in the top 12, she even ranked higher than Chaeyeon
Lee Gaeun was like in the top five everytime in produce 48 and suddenly finished 14th in the last episode. On the other hand, Chaewon jumped from 19th to 10th and the last episode was her first time in the debuting position
This doesn’t surprise me AT ALL I’ve been seeing “MNET rigged voting” conspiracy vids since Produce 48, I also felt that the show was rigged
same as me!!!but i was suprise by all sudden that I think they will remove the members..and one more thing is they just cancelled our X1 perfomance even OneIts already buy the luxury tickets I was like "WTF IS WRONG WITH MNET AND CJ ENM" THAT WAS(i think i was far enough i already curse) **sorry for that i mean sorry for what i'm saying...
STAN X1 AND IZ*ONE FOR CLEAR SKIN
I really don’t want them to disband i mean who doesn’t!!!! Mnet are snakes. Sakura could had the #1 but they don’t want foreigner to win a Korean survival show
Wow
@cesar garces she got an A bc she was the most determined out of all the japanese trainees.
Sakura is madly popular not only in Japan but around the world, and she was indeed popular in Korea too!
Sakura should have been #1 and PERIOD.
@cesar garces bruh isnt pd48 all abt voting and stuff, how is it a talent contest dude
@cesar garces Man it was never a talent competition, it's a rigged survival show. You can't win with your talent if it's already so rigged lol
@cesar garces If it was talent the voting wouldn't be done the way it is.
She did well because she's a performer.
Justice for Kaeun, Cho Won and other trainees! :(
Mnet should pay millions in settlement to ALL trainees
Gaeun and chowon deserved to be in It though. . . :(
@@hajimerou There's also investigation that said there's company that bribe their trainees out of debut. So....
Rafael Tovar JUSTICE FOR THEM!!!
@@hajimerou yee ikr she's like really rich too
I actually watched all seasons of Produce and PD48 was really that chaotic season. If you knew the amount of shocked people after watching it. Lol, even Somi and the trainers are shocked at the final result, you can see their reaction when Sakura didn't became first and Kaeun didn't make the final line-up. It's more surprising to know that people are actually shocked that those seasons are not rigged.
Jeez, I just feel so bad for the members of both groups - they aren’t the ones to be faulted and yet they are going to suffer the most. I really hope that their fans will rally for them and that the support for them to stay together will be overwhelming... I know that’s probably impossible since Korean culture seems to revolve around saving face but it’s really not fair to the members of the two groups, fans aside. One could argue that it’s not fair to the other contestants who competed on the show, and while that may be true, what’s done is done. The groups have been wildly popular and the members have worked so, so hard. My heart goes out to them.
So when someone that you love embezzels money will you say 'what's done is done'? This, is the real world, people who do bad things will be punished, these are facts not feelings.
@@mohammedburhanahmed5170 the members weren't at fault, they didn't do this on purpose
@@alocasean I didn't say anything about the members. I was saying the companies involved have committed crime and should be punished. Those trainees and family who suffered should be given compensation or get to debut. Also regardless of where or not the members of both groups knew or not those who benefit have to leave or the groups disband.
@@alocasean The members weren't at fault but i don't think is fair for them to stay together and keep making money for mnet.
Think about this Wonyoung is only 15 and Dohyun just turned 15 yet all of this is surrounding them
They will make it through.
i don’t want iz*one to dispand😭
Vivienne Hensler
Of course we dont want them to disband, just keep praying and everything will be ok. Be positive because its possible that they can be a permanent group. Be strong and always support IZ*ONE
Vivienne Hensler and i don't want x1 to disband :(
- s e l i n a
I will pray for X1 too😊 cheer up!
Lee Chaeyeon is one of the very best idol dancers in Kpop (IMHO top-5) so I hope she and IZ*ONE continue to be very successful!
I was today years old when i found out Iz*one is pronounced Iz*one and not I*Zone...(never listened or watched them, only ever saw the name pop up on YT or Twitter)
I feel dumb now :D
No, please don't feel dumb...trust me , you are not the only person that pronounced it that way by far. I have been trying to get folks to understand how to say it since they debuted.
omg same wtf
Wait really? I-
Feel stupid
Don't worry, I still call them I*Zone even though I knew how to say it from the beginning
Liyan Black yes, i*zone just sounds more right than iz*one 😅 it’s kind of a weird name, i*zone would fit better for a group i think
"There isn't a reason for the groups to keep going."
I'm sorry, what now?
If the groups continue to keep going, they'll get hate and backlash especially from Knetz knowing that the votes were rigged. I don't think these idols are to blame and PDs just fxxxd it up so hard. It's unfair for both parties (the current final line-up and the 'true' winners.)
@@haku4810
I'm well aware, but they have too many supporters and fans to be let go so easily.
I'm just hoping for a release of the worst bribers.
7:37 - 8:02
the article shown in the video actually was fake news. It's from koreaboo, the kpop news site that writes articles without checking the truth of it. "An insider from off the record" won't be saying any of that shit. MNET has said there has been no discussion of disbandment yet.
@@philipschrute8487
If mnet hasn't said anything, I don't want mnet to come back suddenly and say "hey, Izone no more. Bye."
@@philipschrute8487 thanks for the news, I'm not following these pages and I was surprised by this statement knowing the boys just came back from Bangkok in 2 days... I hope if they sit it out it will mean no harm for them but if they proceed to be on the year end shows they will got a lot of backlash. At least I think this way...
Poor young idols...
Imagine how their parents felt about this, I'd go on rage if I were them, because these nasty producers and agencies are literally ruining their sons' and daughters' future and career smh
3:13 Chaeyeon’s hair flips cause we need it right now. WIZ*ONE and ONEIT let’s fight this war together ❤️
OMG didn't know I needed it so much in my life. Thank you!
I swear if they start taking out members I will riot
That would be worst than disbanding.
Ik
why no one commenting about one of the producer of the show got arrested bcs he accepted sex services from trainees agencies??
and we didn't even know yet if those agencies trainees are debuted as IZ*ONE or X1 or not
Saanvi Sharma haha go ahead and riot. You can’t do nothing about it if they disband 😂😭
Ill join u
i’m scared for them 🥺
When SKE48’s Matsui Jurina got rank B and HKT48’s Sakura got rank A I suspected it was rigged, when Sakura didn’t get rank number 1 I knew it was rigged for sure
andre1vilca what does ranking a or b have to do with anything that is based on the coach’s evaluation of their skills but the audience might think differently
Jurina never fit their standards of A if that's what you were referring to . Usually if that's the case. It's usually because of the singing since she used heavy playback and the trainers hear their voice (w/o playback) while dancing . Sakura getting A is like Somi getting A . Star quality 😂
What’s wrong with Sakura being 2nd? I mean she was VERY happy and THANKFUL to debut with Chaeyeon even though she is 2nd, and tbh she is OVER RATED so why don’t give other trainees chance to be center in the group? I’m not hating on SakuChan but it’s just that She is really famous back then in variety tv shows that’s why she is popular
-that’s why people are mad.
@@Riesjen isn't it the same as Wonyoung ? Being overrated ? But it just never bothers anyone that time that Wonyoung was 8th on the 3rd elimination then got 1st LOL . They should have made either Chaeyeon or idk Chaewon if they were rigging it
I feel so bad for the ones that didn't get in, it was against them the whole time
The fact that every single season has had a form of voting manipulation is crazy. I feel so bad for every single person that didn't make it and did make it into the groups. These companies use these trainees like pawns just to make a quick buck. I hope neither group disbands, I hope we get the reunions we're waiting for, and I hope p101 japan (which I believe mnet doesnt actually have any control over... thankfully) runs smoothly, along with the other survival shows that are still on going. This whole thing is a mess and the members getting hate from day one and even more now... it's sad. I feel bad
i feel soprry for everyone in produce and the people who votes for their picks who got out from rigged voting, everyone was a victim here except the producers of produce
I feel sorry for the voters too... They had to pay just to vote their idol and now they learned that its rigged.
IZ*ONE and X1 should continue and be managed by the company currently managing the group directly. All money that mnet was supposed to recieved should be directly be to the company, idol's companies or the idols themselves.
Unless there is evidence that they knew, then they should not be attacked like this.
The companies are being investigated as well. Bribes had to come from somewhere so theyre trying to see who did what.
Personally, I have a feeling X1 are basically done and I hope the members will be able to debut again with other groups/companies. Iz*one is a much harder situation to derermine.
Regardless, I feel horrible for all the artists & trainees. They're the victins in all this.
I saw IzOne at Kcon LA and they slayed it. Regardless of the scandal, they are amazing artists and I really, really hope that they will all be cleared of wrongdoing in a public way so that they can keep going.
Gaeun was #1 from the judges , the trainees , and Korea , suddenly she doesn’t debut and some 15 year old does.. we already know
Robert B.W I feel like if Gauen was added to the group instead of Wonyoung, the vibe would feel very different and I think Wonyoung fits the group more
@@wonvou i feel like if Gaeun was in Izone.. Their concepts would be much more flexible rather than the teeny classy vibe they have now.
As much as i like her. She is a bit more mature so not only because of bribery. They would remove her either way cause she looks a bit older than all the other members. The vibe is so much different so im pretty sure even if she would rank 1 they will find out a way to manipulate and remove her.
sune they still cheated there way in...
Robert B.W haha thats life. Lol.
Producers rigged the votes
Haters: “oh so we should hate the group members? Ok”
Why producer rigged votes ?
Because they want those members to win so members family must have paid producers.
@@dy578 you mean company, not family?
@@ismaelisaaccaganap6824 I mean those idols might be involved in this scandal.
Now don't say they don't know anything about this🙂
@@dy578 I'm pretty sure that no idols knew about this rigging thing, only the companies and the producer, so they are the only ones to blame on, not the idols
@@ismaelisaaccaganap6824 how you so sure about ?
No you might be right, cause producers don't want more Japanese idols in group because of that they replace Sakura with wonyoung for center position.
THE OPENING MASHUP SCARED ME SO MUCH CUZ I WAS JUST LISTENING TO THAT MASHUP ON HIS CHANNEL TO PREP FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!
News came out that even IOI and W1 was rigged. I feel so betrayed by the entire Produce Series
fuc
I knew that there was something not clear with the rankings
Which means Jonghyun definitely should've made it in wannaone
me too ;(
:(
I recently started stanning IZ*ONE when X1 came out. I think the groups should keep going and not at the same time because these young idols have a lot of potential but if they keep going, they’re going to get a lot of pressure. Especially for the young members such as Wonyoung and Dohyun. I love both groups so much and it would be really really dejected or sorrowful to see these successful groups go ): but, I also think it’s up to the members to decide whether they want to keep going or stay as a group. Whatever the outcome is, I will forever support!
the worst part of this to me is the impact that this is going to have on members in both of the groups .
imagine alot of fans of X1 and IZ*ONE felt betrayed. dang..
I legit didn’t watch the recent season of Produce 101 when it came out cuz I was still heart broken over Wanna One and didn’t want to like a group just for them to disband so soon. Once I found out X1 had a 5 year contract I thought I was safe to stan cuz I wouldn’t get my heart broken so quickly...guess I could be wrong lol
I've never been such a fanboy since Izone ... It really hurts my heart when I hear that the girls are getting hate ... They didn't do anything they are victims of that ! (same for the X1 members).
I don't want them to disband, because they are so perfect together, complicity, friendship, they have to stay together.
And I was not prepared for the "real" disband, so I'm clearly not prepared now.
For Izone, they prooved to everyone that everyone in this group is here for a reason. it will not be a good solution to disband.
(I've never wrote a comment with only my heart like that before haha)
Same Iz*one was the first girl group that I loved so much that I would sacrifice so many things for them😢
Same besides the big 3 gg I havent fanboyed a group since the big 3 groups until Izone
Izone will be back and even bigger than ever
In the perfect world, they should as they're also a victim.
in the dumb heartless Kmedia world, even innocent people being portrayed like they're the worst criminal for the sake of "clickbait" news
Ameen
@@hajimerou can you name them plz? i really wanna know who they were...
@@jyotpatel3149 No one's been named as far as I've seen and I doubt they will be until the conclusion of the investigation
Nope they will never be back knowing knetz and how big this scandal is
Its the end for izone and x1
I watched this video again after a year or so and when I tell you 2019 was the worst year of kpop💀
I love both of the groups so much!!!! No matter what happens to them i'll be there to love and support them, i hope they'll be able to fight through this
Man!! I love these groups.
i just feel disappointed by how they allowed this to happen.
(Still bops)
Hopefully iz*one is doing ok...
especially Eunbi, Chaewon, Yujin and particularly Wonyoung since there companies are most involved...
Yujin and wonyoung re in same companie starship
Why particularly wonyoung uwu ? ?
@@melssasalsa9004 shes very young and starship is the most involved one
And she got the first seat so she's most likely getting a ton of backlash.
#Wizoneloveizone
I am a huge OneIt and all I want to say is that we need to give our full support to IZ*ONE and X1. ❤️ We need to be strong for both groups. Fly High! 🦋
I’m a huge one it too and i’m seriously so scared, everyday, the entire day long i just think about x1 and what will happen to them, i’m so scared, i seriously won’t be able to cope if they disband or if some members pull out since they haven’t signed their contracts yet or if this goes on for much longer😭
We're the same
And now they disbanded. I'm crying. 2020 has a great start.
Exactly
Just why?
Not izone though. The boy group did though
almost all survival shows are rigged. They can’t have different type of people end up debuting if it doesn’t fit the concept. Like gaeun - the pledis trainee that debuted before. I heard they removed her out and added 1-2 in that was not in the rank. As much as i like her. She is a bit more mature so not only because of bribery. They would remove her either way cause she looks a bit older than all the other members. The vibe is so much different so im pretty sure even if she would rank 1 they will find out a way to manipulate and remove her.
2:53 yes, 'aishiteru (あいしてる)' does mean 'i love you' but that word is only used for very VERY special occasions (e.g. proposals). for normal times that aren't that intimate, you can use
'suki (すき)' which means 'i like you'
'daisuki (だいすき)' which means 'i really like you'
I was so freaking excited for IZ*one's comeback. 💔
This is all so heart breaking, seeing my 2 favorite groups which I love with all my heart being so hated and getting basically all the blame for something they can't control just makes me break down in tears. I was so excited just a few days ago while waiting for izone's comeback and now I just worry everyday about their future. It's not fair man
101 talented boys and girls, I had my own picks during the show and I know how hard it is to witness their dreams getting shattered when they have been putting their everything in it. Some of my favorite trainees didn't make it but I'm satisfied with the current line up. We must not blame the kids, mnet is the one at fault.
One its and Wiz*one let us all do our best and give these groups the love they deserve.
And that's the reason why I never watch the survival show. I'm way too much of a softie for these. I just sit it out and decide to love the group or not. Funny, Wanna one wasn't my thing but X1 seemed more balanced, although Yohan was the first they didn't put him in the center all the time and I liked it like this. I feel bad for them...
i think this started in season 2. they even accidentally released a different final version of the final 11 at the end of the show and then covered it up to say it was a model of the “projected” winners
I've only watched 3 survival shows so far (and kinda became my ults):
Stray Kids, Treasure Box and Produce X 101.
The first; a member leaves the group.
The second; doesn't even debut.
And the third may disband.
WTF!!! WHYYYYYY!!
whY
Thank you for talking about this I love these groups so much ❤️❤️💗💗❤️😍🥰
Let's think like this..
The debute member or the trainee that fail to be iz*one or x1.. they all on the same position, they didn't know about the manipulating system..
It really make me feel so sad 😿, i hope they can survive until the contract expires..
BTW thanks Nathan for creating this content, I hope everyone will understand the suffering of the members 😊
I’m gonna cry x1 is my ult and if they disband :’(
You good?
i miss IZ*ONE so much, especially Yena. i hope they’re all doing ok, X1 too 💕
「愛している」is so awkward.
「大好き- daisuki」is more common.
JUSTICE for LEE KAEUN, MIYU, MIRU, MIHO AND HAN CHOWON AND OTHER TRAINEES THAT MNET TREAT LIKE A TRASH.
*_I dont want them to disband MNET YOU SNAKES_*
With regards to IZ One - Vampire: The costumes are incredible, the castle interior is incredible. The sound quality and musicianship are absolutely top-notch. The accuracy on everything is perfect. The camera work is incredible. The girls are very beautiful. I've played it over 20 times on my keyboard. I think that video is a masterpiece.
I MISS MY IZONE GIRLS.. They don't deserve any of this...
Even tho most of my picks didn't make the final line-up (Hyunbin, Kookheon, Yuvin, Sihun, BaekJin and a few others) I still love my X1 boys and I don't want them to go through all this mess, cause I think ALL of the members have proved to be worthy of their spot
Omg I feel so bad for the trainees not the members really because at least they knew what it felt like to debut but imagine being a trainee, working you butt off, not sleeping, being stressed with your parts, telling yourself that if you work really hard anything is possible and not even having a chance cause all the members were decided from the beginning. Dammm 💔
I hate Mnet, those people worked so har to debut for many years and months but scammed
*Pray For IZ*ONE & X1*
what they did to x1 is never getting forgotten. to this day i can't believe it. i was very afraid for iz*one, but they are getting comeback soon, so that's the only good news. really hoping for better ending for x1.
This is so heartbreaking. I’ve watched produce 48 & produce x 101 and rooted for these members. I really anticipated IZ*ONE and X1’s performance in award shows this year. 😭
:'c noo iz*one saku chan, the fandom of the world WIZ*ONE can support them, and fans in their country should support them much more.
Imagine working your ass off to debut, then actually debuting only to disband shortly after because the voting was rigged and you had to ask yourself if you're really talented and if you really deserved the chance to debut. not to mention at a young age too....
Izone is one of my favorite groups. If they have to disband like this I'll be heartbroken 💔
Wow I feel really bad for them I really love both groups hopefully they don't disband
I didn't know the issue was this big
AKB48 has/had WAY more than 134 members when you consider that SKE, NMB, HKT, and NGT members ALL appeared on the show too as AKB48 group. The number is closer to 300.
Sakura and Nako who made it into IZ*ONE aren't even main branch AKB48 members (though they held temporary positions in the main branch as well as their home group HKT48 for a couple years).
Although im not part of the fandom for izone, I just wanna say that the visuals are one of the most aesthetically pleasing.
i remembered when i watched the final episode of produce 48 and being shocked af by the result. i thought i was cold hearted when i feel the like the voting result was manipulated. oh boy i was right ._.
jesus what on earth is going on !!! so much crap going on about k pop artists ... i feel so sorry for both these groups including MONSTA X and wonho
Not surprised at all. The ranks at the final episode in produce 48 was shocking
you forgot to mention in 5:55 Han Seungwoo from Victon
he is the main vocal and leader in both groups
its so unfair for these kids, finally debuting and now forcing a hiatus
personally i wish they'd let Seungwoo promote with his Victon members at least, in the meantime
the same goes for the other kids that already had a group before redebuting
members of x1 are banned from promoting with their original groups for 2.5 years since debut and thats really ugly
2019 is legit the year of terror part 2 in kpop history
Nathan: mentions 4 of IZ*ONE's songs
Buenos Aires: Am I a joke to you?
They can make a new group with the trainees who couldnt debut instead of disbanding izone or x1
O shit I didn't even realize this vid was so long. Good job
I hope some people will help and support Izone and X1 for all their hard work.they didt do anything they just wanna fullfil their dreams as idols