I try to refrain from comments as the audience is a huge swath of folks from far left to far right and this shows on their concerns and comments. Personally I find that you are a guru of smelting and refining knowledge who has started to grey a little, you still breathe well, still have all your fingers and are quite mobile so you obviously know about the dangers in your profession. Personally I have zero comments about your ability nor professionalism but would as usual like to thank you for the time you spent making, editing and ULing these videos for me to ride along with you and watch a master at his craft.
Thanks for explaining the truth and being honest , so many people forget that the overall cost of gas and time spent , making ingots out of scrap sometimes just ain’t worth it , I am sure we all have fun doing it , but as for making money well unless it turned back into some fancy jewellery , the only advantage is it’s less storage space ….
Before tax, you paid the same price as the smelter would have paid the pawn shop. The pawn shop came out because it won't have to pay shipping, insurance, etc.
Thank you so very much for making this video. I never felt like you were dragging on, you get to the point while still being detailed for someone learning how to do this. You are so appreciated.
Hey Jason, I just wanted to ask you since the first time I saw your videos. In't there any health hazard from working with ceramic wool like that? I thought the ceramic dust is really bad for your lungs and it's supposed to be covered by refractory cement before you can be around it without a respirator. Also if you're actually reading this: I'm late to the party, but that shot of the Cerro Gordo silver solidifying is in my opinion the money shot of all of the money shots on youtube. The most visually pleasing footage by far. Thank you for that.
I know this is years old hoping this is seen as I need some help. I have about 21 grams of 14k and 18k gold scrap that was passed down to me from a jeweler family member who passed. 1/10 of a gram shards cut off rings after the casting process, tiny tiny little pieces and I have to refine it in order to sell it. Doing it at home, my question is if I go straight to the bismuth method, would adding borax aid me at all? For example, by lowering the melting point and making it easier for me to melt? I have no furnace, buying a couple cheap torches that are supposed to heat beyond golds melting point so kinda just doing it outback with w cheap materials. Any ideas are so appreciated ty
Jason... You build some really cool processing equipment... ditch the Kaowool tubular delight furnace and build the throw down, top of the heap, MBMMllc furnace and make it part of your line!
One thing about drying your Ingot molds, if they're made of iron they can look dry, but as soon as you put them in front of the fire, an amazing amount of moisture comes bubbling out of them. Moral of the story is.. even if they look dry, you should still heat them to make sure they are dry. I hear steam explosions are no fun. Been lucky to have only experienced a small one in a muffin tin so far and learned that lesson quickly.
Hey i really like yout smelting videos, i'm not from the U.S so i have a question, what does Matte means or technically what it is? Thanks for the information anyways, greetings from Colombia
Excellent video, love the channel. You could have saved a load of propane on you first melt by skipping the furnace and just use a melt dish and propane torch. This is a great way to reduce base metals in your scrap before moving onto chemical refining. It will save you on acids and reduce the wastes you'll need to deal with after. I will certainly consider cupelling on my next run of karat scrap. Keep pumping out the great content on your channel
Yeah, if I was to do it again I would put it directly in the cuple. Its cheap and no labor. Reduces the base metals down to less that 1% and good point about the acid savings for the final steps!
You should check out Sreetips channel. He refines usiing chemicals, but the point is for small quanities of gold such as what you showed in this video, he uses a torch, no need for a furnace at all.
It's usually not worth it unless you have mixed/low carat scrap and you want to consolidate it for storage. I've nearly always made more % in refining silver scrap because it's way easier to find under spot, and a lot of people seem willing to pay a premium for a nice looking bar. Bismuth prices fluctuate a lot so it's hard to cost it, but the last time I bought some I paid about $60 for 10KG. It's definitely more expensive now. 🤑
I just started going into my local pawn shops looking to build a stash of scrap gold to one day refine (im trying to get like Sreetips tbh) and ive noticed theyre pretty spot on with scrap prices. Some pieces go for less than scrap and others maybe a couple dollars over - but the way i see it theres always gonna be some kinda premium so overpaying 1-2$ for a piece doesnt really bother me. Im after the 24kt inside anyways 😂
Thanks Jason. Been struggling for a little while on getting this process down for myself. My biggest question after watching the video is, about how long did it take with the first cupel in this video to get the completed button? Trying to see if I'm not waiting long enough or if I'm doing something wrong.
Takes about 30 mins. Make sure the bead is geting oxygen, but staying hot enough. If you run it too cool the bead will keep freezing before the base metals are completely removed
Hi Jason, the initial weight loss is probably due to the iron getting partially into the borax glass. The lock mechanism on necklaces/ bracelets usually contains an iron steel spring. It might be worth removing the spring prior any purification. Some iron can also come from the mold.
Thankyou so much! I'm learning as much as I can and I love how you show the math I'm not good at it so this is a great way to learn about math and smelting at the same time!! Would love to visit your spot! I love crushing ore and smelting and digging for gold and silver
Thank you. I have a bunch of 10k gold rings I want to melt and have been looking for a video on how to separate the metals. I have a propane devil forge furnace is the process basically the same? Just using bismuth and letting oxygen get into the mix?
Thanks again Jason. Very useful video. Love all your stuff. Learning a lot. I understand old CRT's are lead glass, with a lot of lead. I was thinking of melting some down, dropping in some iron, and seeing if I could recover any lead in a cone mold. Sometimes it'snot just about cost effectiveness, but fun and experimenting.
Great video, very informative. I’ve been stacking scrap 14k for a while now and looking forward to getting it refined in a year or two after I get a few oz together.
True i’m in the process of doing this right now I’ve done it once before worked wonders maybe I had some trash cupels because some of my gold did stick to the insides of the cupel
You started with 5.494 grams of 14K. Once you melted and dropped the button you had a weight of 5.411 gram button the remainder weight lost was from the spring (Fe,Cr,Ni,Mo) stainless alloy in the lobster claw clasp and zinc oxidizing. Every time I XRF before I melt and after the melt I usually lose zinc % on reading. Zn in alloy reaches the boiling point and is lost in the process.
For the record, asbestos is a rock..well, a mineral with a specific crystal structure. It isn't toxic or poisinous, and it is completely innert. Asbestos is no different from sawdust and fiberglass. It should be a meme, the way people will freak out about asbestos, but will happily breathe wood fibers, fiberglass, and welding fumes.
I would think if you did that it would be to recover the silver because you are only paying for the gold, the profit would be the silver. Roll the dice and hope most of the added to the gold was silver.
Biggest lie in gold is that it isn't durable and needs to be alloyed. It is perfectly fine by itself and adding things is what makes gold easier to break. Any carat gold will break anf 24k will bend bend and last bend you can eventually break a piece of gold but 25k is so malleable while karat gold gets work hardened and will break if you hit it on something or gets squished with the right amount of pressure. Love your videos and did my first 24k cuppel it's only a gram but it is true 24k can hit it as hard as you want doesn't break and only bends like gold should it hasn't broken yet and I hit the thing as hard as I can with multiple hammers and doesn't need to be annealing what so ever. Thanks for the help a while back people like this are truly great teaching others. Also do you find the prices of cuppel to be ok I bought only like 10 but it is a process and to refine steady amount you'll need quite a bit of cuppel
but if you did take it into acid you can get the silver and get paid for that too, only way scrap gold is gonna be worth more than its scrap price, those impurities ok the last xrf scan may have come from the bismuth...
. So using this method the cupel method. Only removes lead copper and other "filler" garbage metals'...... ..except for gold and silver.... And i'm assuming the only way to get the silver out of that gold button you have is the hydrochloric acid route? To purify the gold. To 999?
What do you do with the slag? Guest request, you should try to reach out to Gold Rush and get Freddie Dodge and Juan on and do a long video or a few and talk about your equipment and recovery of precious metals, etc. Maybe cross over videos of you and BigStackD.... watching yall makes me wanna move dirt and smelt!
Thank you. Question if I may. What's the best way to sell gold jewelry I find? Melt and refine it as you did or just sell as is, at a place that buys gold? Thanks again
Hey guys if anyone could answer this question please do so. I have a 28 gram 14k gold if I melt it down would I get about 14 grams of pure gold ? Thanx in advance
Hey I know this is an old video but I am curious can you do the same method using only a graphite crucible bismuth and borax? or would the borax cancel out the bismuth reaction to the base metals?
Really interesting to see this - really like watching @sreetips refine down to 0.999 fine gold, but I often wondered what you get with just a cupel and you answered that question really well! 0.900 fine gold is not a bad result at all for such a simple process - I was wondering if you can scale this up to something like a troy ounce of gold or if the cupel just gets too big. Great video! 👍
@@mbmmllc Very cool! Seems like it might not be a bad step prior to chemical refining - could save a lot of time and nitric acid getting all that copper out first.
@@fredrichardson9761 chemical purification of gold requires quartation. You'll need to add back 3x more copper or silver to the gold, then use a bunch of nitric anyway. The cupelling still has value before liquation for removing some of the tricky base metals.
@@snarky_user Yeah, actually I think this could save on nitric when you're dealing with gold filled scrap. Getting rid of the copper and other base metals would still be a plus if you run a silver cell like @sreetips (he does inquartation with silver). I wonder if cupeling is a superior way of dealing with gold plated material - I think @sreetips demonstrated reverse electrolysis but generally avoids that type of material given the low yield and huge amount of work.
Thanks it was a cool video but Even better it’s the value I was interested in so all my 14 k scrap leave it scrap till I have enough to trade for 24 for the long run👍
I live in an area of mass that is on gold belt and I found out crop of of quarts with big time metal looking stuff lead sliver and alot of other stuff there's alot of old mines in the area as well the area use to be there's maga stringers around I pick you quarts I have some that looks like there's gold but I'm not like you I just pick rocks up because there awesome you the guy to ask I tried to get stuff out use acid but I can't get stuff that's strong as well I have no to keep me safe
Is this method possible without the furnace, but using a high temperature gas torch(s) to melt the metals to a liquid then absorb the base copper, zinc, lead into the cupel?
Thank you. I found this to be a very informative video. I have been working on doing the same thing, but was missing some knowledge to make it work well. I now have that knowledge! Thanks for sharing.
I like how u explained how not to pour in to a cold or wet cast .. cause it will pop nobody skoolz nobody on how to melt gold .. most just stay quite n say nothing .. ur schooling us on gold melting n gold .. stuff I dint know .. tell us way more tho .. good advice 👍🏼
Good day, I want to know if this method will work for rose gold and bring it back to regular color gold. How long do you keep it melting for in the furnace.
i done my first cuppel yesterday i had 2.2 grams starting in gold flakes and flour gold from my prospecting came out with 1.07 grams...... it took for ever to finish it seemed but i am very happy that i have learned the process from you jason and ALOT from your vids thank you very much
1.07 from 2.2 looks like huge loss... Placer gold should have more gold, I think... 1.7 from 2.2, well not great but OK... Less than 50 %, I dont know man... could be some gold lost? I just have like 2g that I washed and I want to cuppel it too, Now I am a bit afraid...
Thanks Jason ... I’m glad people asked you about the equipment and simple/ not so simple do it yourself process ... I’ve had tons of questions also.... your the acting do it yourself encyclopedia to the regular outdoors type
I try to refrain from comments as the audience is a huge swath of folks from far left to far right and this shows on their concerns and comments. Personally I find that you are a guru of smelting and refining knowledge who has started to grey a little, you still breathe well, still have all your fingers and are quite mobile so you obviously know about the dangers in your profession.
Personally I have zero comments about your ability nor professionalism but would as usual like to thank you for the time you spent making, editing and ULing these videos for me to ride along with you and watch a master at his craft.
Thanks Jim! I really appreciate that comment
Thanks for explaining the truth and being honest , so many people forget that the overall cost of gas and time spent , making ingots out of scrap sometimes just ain’t worth it , I am sure we all have fun doing it , but as for making money well unless it turned back into some fancy jewellery , the only advantage is it’s less storage space ….
Before tax, you paid the same price as the smelter would have paid the pawn shop. The pawn shop came out because it won't have to pay shipping, insurance, etc.
Thanks for doing this video Jason! I always like learning more about gold and precious metals!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so very much for making this video. I never felt like you were dragging on, you get to the point while still being detailed for someone learning how to do this. You are so appreciated.
Excellent information and process.
Thanks.
Thanks
Nicely done! Thanks for sharing!
It's better to turn that gold into jewelry & sell it than it is to lose 10% selling it to a refiner.
Wow never thought of that!
😂 9:00min mark. Made me think of microwave popcorn. When the popping stops, it’s ready
Hey Jason, I just wanted to ask you since the first time I saw your videos. In't there any health hazard from working with ceramic wool like that? I thought the ceramic dust is really bad for your lungs and it's supposed to be covered by refractory cement before you can be around it without a respirator.
Also if you're actually reading this: I'm late to the party, but that shot of the Cerro Gordo silver solidifying is in my opinion the money shot of all of the money shots on youtube. The most visually pleasing footage by far. Thank you for that.
Hi,
What does it mean when you melt gold jewellery down and it all turns black rather than molds together?
Good one Jason you have shown me another way to refine gold and silver two thumbs
Great thanks!
I know this is years old hoping this is seen as I need some help. I have about 21 grams of 14k and 18k gold scrap that was passed down to me from a jeweler family member who passed. 1/10 of a gram shards cut off rings after the casting process, tiny tiny little pieces and I have to refine it in order to sell it. Doing it at home, my question is if I go straight to the bismuth method, would adding borax aid me at all? For example, by lowering the melting point and making it easier for me to melt? I have no furnace, buying a couple cheap torches that are supposed to heat beyond golds melting point so kinda just doing it outback with w cheap materials. Any ideas are so appreciated ty
That iron that caused the green color likely due to the presence of a steel spring in the clasp
This was very interesting.
Jason, this was such an informative video and I’m sure it will help lots of fellow watchers! Thanks
Thanks! Also thanks for the stickers!
@@mbmmllc you bet ;)
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Hi Jason. What temperature do you cupel gold? Does it matter how big of a button is expected? It is always the same temperature? Thank you
Jason... You build some really cool processing equipment... ditch the Kaowool tubular delight furnace and build the throw down, top of the heap, MBMMllc furnace and make it part of your line!
One thing about drying your Ingot molds, if they're made of iron they can look dry, but as soon as you put them in front of the fire, an amazing amount of moisture comes bubbling out of them. Moral of the story is.. even if they look dry, you should still heat them to make sure they are dry. I hear steam explosions are no fun. Been lucky to have only experienced a small one in a muffin tin so far and learned that lesson quickly.
Right on Jason ✅
This was fun 👍🏻
Hi Jason and Rigby, greetingd from Czech Republic. Today I had a good day, almost 0.5 g and my first picker ever (5 mm = 1/5 inch, 46 mg).
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That’s great !!!! 😀🐺
@@FlourgoldWizards 😀🌟⛏️❤️
Always wondered how to separate the gold from other metals. Now I have more questions 😀😀
Hey i really like yout smelting videos, i'm not from the U.S so i have a question, what does Matte means or technically what it is? Thanks for the information anyways, greetings from Colombia
Excellent video, love the channel. You could have saved a load of propane on you first melt by skipping the furnace and just use a melt dish and propane torch.
This is a great way to reduce base metals in your scrap before moving onto chemical refining. It will save you on acids and reduce the wastes you'll need to deal with after.
I will certainly consider cupelling on my next run of karat scrap.
Keep pumping out the great content on your channel
Yeah, if I was to do it again I would put it directly in the cuple. Its cheap and no labor. Reduces the base metals down to less that 1% and good point about the acid savings for the final steps!
I love your videos I appreciate this one especially... is that a regular crucible you’re using
If you buy over 1500 worth of gold it’s tax free
You should check out Sreetips channel. He refines usiing chemicals, but the point is for small quanities of gold such as what you showed in this video, he uses a torch, no need for a furnace at all.
how much does 30 grams of bismuth cost? how much did the fuel cost? i'm trying to figure out whether it's worth refining.
It's usually not worth it unless you have mixed/low carat scrap and you want to consolidate it for storage.
I've nearly always made more % in refining silver scrap because it's way easier to find under spot, and a lot of people seem willing to pay a premium for a nice looking bar.
Bismuth prices fluctuate a lot so it's hard to cost it, but the last time I bought some I paid about $60 for 10KG. It's definitely more expensive now. 🤑
little iron is the spring inside the lock
Be careful as the clips and catches are usually not gold and most contain small steel springs that will throw off your process.
Thanks for the tip
I just started going into my local pawn shops looking to build a stash of scrap gold to one day refine (im trying to get like Sreetips tbh) and ive noticed theyre pretty spot on with scrap prices. Some pieces go for less than scrap and others maybe a couple dollars over - but the way i see it theres always gonna be some kinda premium so overpaying 1-2$ for a piece doesnt really bother me. Im after the 24kt inside anyways 😂
Hello friend a good place to buy gold is from nonprofit seller ie good will, church acution ECT. People are starting buy there, get out there friend
Jason the best videos on gold refining! Is bismuth less toxic than lead? I will Google it LoL
Thanks Jason. Been struggling for a little while on getting this process down for myself. My biggest question after watching the video is, about how long did it take with the first cupel in this video to get the completed button? Trying to see if I'm not waiting long enough or if I'm doing something wrong.
Takes about 30 mins. Make sure the bead is geting oxygen, but staying hot enough. If you run it too cool the bead will keep freezing before the base metals are completely removed
Hi Jason, the initial weight loss is probably due to the iron getting partially into the borax glass. The lock mechanism on necklaces/ bracelets usually contains an iron steel spring. It might be worth removing the spring prior any purification. Some iron can also come from the mold.
Thankyou so much! I'm learning as much as I can and I love how you show the math I'm not good at it so this is a great way to learn about math and smelting at the same time!! Would love to visit your spot! I love crushing ore and smelting and digging for gold and silver
Awesome! Two birds one stone!
Thank you. I have a bunch of 10k gold rings I want to melt and have been looking for a video on how to separate the metals. I have a propane devil forge furnace is the process basically the same? Just using bismuth and letting oxygen get into the mix?
Thanks again Jason. Very useful video. Love all your stuff. Learning a lot. I understand old CRT's are lead glass, with a lot of lead. I was thinking of melting some down, dropping in some iron, and seeing if I could recover any lead in a cone mold. Sometimes it'snot just about cost effectiveness, but fun and experimenting.
Great video, very informative. I’ve been stacking scrap 14k for a while now and looking forward to getting it refined in a year or two after I get a few oz together.
So if I cut all the gold plated pins out of a computer could I smelt them with some lead in a cupel and end up removing the majority of the steel?
Yep, that would work if there isnt too much Fe
Great Video...You are the BEST metallurgist on youtube....THANK YOU.
Thanks!
Hello. I'm Ahmed from Egypt. Do you have any knowledge about gold extraction by a method? HCL
Great video Jason. Thanks for explaining things in a little more detail, you answered many questions.
Thanks for watching
Is there a way, using your smelting methods, to separate the silver from the gold and recover both?
I'd think that can only be done by dissolving the metals
Made that look easy, so is what your saying, “save time and just send it to a smelting company?”
Awesome job. You've answered so many questions for us all, thank you.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Ditto
True i’m in the process of doing this right now I’ve done it once before worked wonders maybe I had some trash cupels because some of my gold did stick to the insides of the cupel
You started with 5.494 grams of 14K.
Once you melted and dropped the button you had a weight of 5.411 gram button the remainder weight lost was from the spring (Fe,Cr,Ni,Mo) stainless alloy in the lobster claw clasp and zinc oxidizing. Every time I XRF before I melt and after the melt I usually lose zinc % on reading. Zn in alloy reaches the boiling point and is lost in the process.
For the record, asbestos is a rock..well, a mineral with a specific crystal structure. It isn't toxic or poisinous, and it is completely innert. Asbestos is no different from sawdust and fiberglass. It should be a meme, the way people will freak out about asbestos, but will happily breathe wood fibers, fiberglass, and welding fumes.
@n n People are extra afraid of asbestos, which is dumb. People are careles with fiberglass and wood dust, which is also dumb.
@n n LOL! You copied me first.
I would think if you did that it would be to recover the silver because you are only paying for the gold, the profit would be the silver. Roll the dice and hope most of the added to the gold was silver.
So Let me get this Straight...ALL you did was put Bismuth in with 14kt gold and heated it up and removed all the Base metals in 14kt?😱😱
Biggest lie in gold is that it isn't durable and needs to be alloyed. It is perfectly fine by itself and adding things is what makes gold easier to break. Any carat gold will break anf 24k will bend bend and last bend you can eventually break a piece of gold but 25k is so malleable while karat gold gets work hardened and will break if you hit it on something or gets squished with the right amount of pressure. Love your videos and did my first 24k cuppel it's only a gram but it is true 24k can hit it as hard as you want doesn't break and only bends like gold should it hasn't broken yet and I hit the thing as hard as I can with multiple hammers and doesn't need to be annealing what so ever. Thanks for the help a while back people like this are truly great teaching others. Also do you find the prices of cuppel to be ok I bought only like 10 but it is a process and to refine steady amount you'll need quite a bit of cuppel
Glad you got the process worked out! More gold to ya!
but if you did take it into acid you can get the silver and get paid for that too, only way scrap gold is gonna be worth more than its scrap price, those impurities ok the last xrf scan may have come from the bismuth...
The hasp/latch on the bracelet likely had a small steel spring in it.
Très bonne fonte mon ami✨✨
Really fascinating and well presented with a LOT of useful information!! Thanks!
thank you for sharing your nice process sir..
Thanks Jason very informative and ad
. So using this method the cupel method. Only removes lead copper and other "filler" garbage metals'......
..except for gold and silver....
And i'm assuming the only way to get the silver out of that gold button you have is the hydrochloric acid route? To purify the gold. To 999?
What do you do with the slag?
Guest request, you should try to reach out to Gold Rush and get Freddie Dodge and Juan on and do a long video or a few and talk about your equipment and recovery of precious metals, etc.
Maybe cross over videos of you and BigStackD.... watching yall makes me wanna move dirt and smelt!
Thank you.
Question if I may.
What's the best way to sell gold jewelry I find? Melt and refine it as you did or just sell as is, at a place that buys gold?
Thanks again
Hey guys if anyone could answer this question please do so. I have a 28 gram 14k gold if I melt it down would I get about 14 grams of pure gold ? Thanx in advance
Does anyone know if using some borax with graphite crucibles presents any problems? Looking at better way to separate slag from melts
Hey I know this is an old video but I am curious can you do the same method using only a graphite crucible bismuth and borax? or would the borax cancel out the bismuth reaction to the base metals?
Super interesting, I'd love a job at your company
Hi Jason! Would this cupel method work in a blacksmith forge in charcoal or coke fire?
Really interesting to see this - really like watching @sreetips refine down to 0.999 fine gold, but I often wondered what you get with just a cupel and you answered that question really well! 0.900 fine gold is not a bad result at all for such a simple process - I was wondering if you can scale this up to something like a troy ounce of gold or if the cupel just gets too big. Great video! 👍
Yep, this can be scaled up. It can be used to do kilos of gold with a big enough cupel
@@mbmmllc Very cool! Seems like it might not be a bad step prior to chemical refining - could save a lot of time and nitric acid getting all that copper out first.
@@fredrichardson9761 chemical purification of gold requires quartation. You'll need to add back 3x more copper or silver to the gold, then use a bunch of nitric anyway. The cupelling still has value before liquation for removing some of the tricky base metals.
@@mbmmllc I have 6+ kilos of sterling flatware here ready for a video. 😉
@@snarky_user Yeah, actually I think this could save on nitric when you're dealing with gold filled scrap. Getting rid of the copper and other base metals would still be a plus if you run a silver cell like @sreetips (he does inquartation with silver). I wonder if cupeling is a superior way of dealing with gold plated material - I think @sreetips demonstrated reverse electrolysis but generally avoids that type of material given the low yield and huge amount of work.
You wife Called, She wants to know if you have seen her Ring?
Thanks it was a cool video but Even better it’s the value I was interested in so all my 14 k scrap leave it scrap till I have enough to trade for 24 for the long run👍
I live in an area of mass that is on gold belt and I found out crop of of quarts with big time metal looking stuff lead sliver and alot of other stuff there's alot of old mines in the area as well the area use to be there's maga stringers around I pick you quarts I have some that looks like there's gold but I'm not like you I just pick rocks up because there awesome you the guy to ask I tried to get stuff out use acid but I can't get stuff that's strong as well I have no to keep me safe
Is this method possible without the furnace, but using a high temperature gas torch(s) to melt the metals to a liquid then absorb the base copper, zinc, lead into the cupel?
I was looking for a harmless metal instead of lead in a cupellation process. Thanks!
bismuth
is there any risk for base metals like led or mismuth ti still be in the gold after this step?
I have some placer gold and some gold chains would like to melt them down. Using just borax and a torch maybe.
Thank you. I found this to be a very informative video. I have been working on doing the same thing, but was missing some knowledge to make it work well. I now have that knowledge! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
I like how u explained how not to pour in to a cold or wet cast .. cause it will pop nobody skoolz nobody on how to melt gold .. most just stay quite n say nothing .. ur schooling us on gold melting n gold .. stuff I dint know .. tell us way more tho .. good advice 👍🏼
Good day, I want to know if this method will work for rose gold and bring it back to regular color gold. How long do you keep it melting for in the furnace.
Shoot. Maybe dyi my necklace with scrap gold is not so easy to do on my own/safety issues.. darn
I have about 60 grams of scrap rose gold that may have a overload of copper how much bismuth would I need to refine it
i done my first cuppel yesterday i had 2.2 grams starting in gold flakes and flour gold from my prospecting came out with 1.07 grams...... it took for ever to finish it seemed but i am very happy that i have learned the process from you jason and ALOT from your vids thank you very much
Thanks! Glad you are experimenting on your own. It takes some practice, but you will get it!
1.07 from 2.2 looks like huge loss... Placer gold should have more gold, I think... 1.7 from 2.2, well not great but OK... Less than 50 %, I dont know man... could be some gold lost?
I just have like 2g that I washed and I want to cuppel it too, Now I am a bit afraid...
Hello Jeff I'm curious what the noise was the firing up the kilm? Are you pushing air in?
Why is there a trend recently to use bismuth instead of lead. It would seem the bismuth would be more expensive to acquire than lead.
Pretty cool but still have to use that nitric acid to the .999's fine..
very cool i have a3.9 oz bar i want to do this to thank you my friend great video
so do you make your own cupels or do you buy them? and if you buy them could i bother you for a name/link? also where are you sourcing your bismuth?
Thanks Jason ... I’m glad people asked you about the equipment and simple/ not so simple do it yourself process ... I’ve had tons of questions also.... your the acting do it yourself encyclopedia to the regular outdoors type
Thanks man. Glad you enjoyed it
Hi man I'm in spokane and looking for some help I'm have some cons but I in need of a table or a blue bowl to finish
They wouldn’t give you 90% of the value. I get full spot price for my .999 and .9999 gold
The spring in that clasp woulda been good to take it off and leave it out..
Most modern day jewelry is fake. This includes gold, silver, and diamonds.
The xrf says it's not 14k even after losing .1 of a gram of base metals it still says it's only 13.5k
awesome job Jason :) so cool how you explain all the details :) and show all the practical side of things :) great to watch :)
Can I just throw my ingreadiants into a cupel and hit it with a rosebud rather than needing the kiln or furnace?
Tanks a lot for this method. How much heat os necessary to melt the Bismuth in the crucible?
just wondering could you cupel computer gold fingers and gold pins what would happen ?
Paid alot for 14k, I see 18k necklaces and such for $15-$20 a piece.
Hey Jason, Awesome video. You do an incredible job explaining the little details! Much appreciated! Jim
Thanks Jim!
Now how do you separate the gold from the silver and be left with one silver button and one gold button ?
Great video anyone know if you could use this technique for electronic gold recovery?
Awesome video. I have a few questions for ya. I emailed the company attn Jason
If worth the same $ as it was once sent to refiner ?… what’s the point of ? Serious question
Can you use fishing lead weights that’s the only source of lead I have lol
Where do you recommend sending scrap gold jewelry out for sale?
$100 you can buy a furnace on Amazon or about $60 you can buy a small furnace on Amazon.