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I do agree. I think he only killed the woman that gave him a piece of blonde hair, and the homeless man. I feel the homeless man wasn't a planned killing, I think he was going to be nice to him and maybe even help him. But he is still filled with anger (especially after the card scene) and starts to insult and then kill him and the dog accompanying the homeless man to release the anger quickly. Him, being upper class would make sense, especially since a good amount of the people Patrick "Kills" could be lower class, such as the prostitutes and the homeless killings he admits to his lawyer. I believe Patrick only killed that homeless man to release the anger he had. What I would say, it's a mix of him being in a world where everyone is greedy, and obsessed with self-image, Schizophrenia, And his own messed up fantasy. So, I'm going to say he's killed at least 2-3 people at most. He did not kill Paul Allen; He did not kill anyone with a chainsaw. One thing I want to point out, is that one thing Patrick is passionate about is music. Music could be an escape from his insanity and his thoughts of killing. Every time I'm on the school bus, heading or leaving to school, I listen to music. And if I'm able to, I sometimes listen to music in school, or just in the car to make a trip go by faster. When he's in the limo, he's listening to music to avoid talking to Evelyn. He listens to music when he's at work. So, his love for music, and my love for music, kind of gives me the feeling we have something in common. I mean, I'll listen to a song on the school bus so I can prepare myself for going to a place I hate going, because I absolutely hate school. And on the way back, I listen to music that I enjoy heavily, and has a happier tone to it because I'm leaving school and I'm going home, and also because I am just a casual music enjoyer. Patrick uses music as an escape. I use music as an escape (sometimes). Patrick Walks down the hall to his office so he can avoid talking to people, I do the same on the bus sometimes. Of course, Patrick has a completely different taste in music. He'll be listening to Phil Collins, Genesis, Huey Luis and the news. I'll be listening to Led Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd, Ect. So, music is the only thing we know about his hobbies I feel like. And I think music is the only part of happiness Patrick feels except for fantasizing about killing and actually killing people, and watching people suffer. Music was very well used in the movie, I don't exactly like the music he's listening to, but I do like the way music is used so we can see a glimpse into Patrick Batemans last bit of sanity. Very great character analysis, and I think you did a great job.
His girlfriend says he doesn’t have to work since his dad owns the company. I think he did kill all those people but his parents / family members are obviously loaded and are covering up his trail. It also dawned on me that the other dudes parents could have been covering up what they thought their son did even though it was Bateman. I just thought those details also add to whatever else was going on. Once he called the lawyers his dad got to work.
I always saw the detective as a representation of the anxiety and fear Bateman had towards getting caught. The questions the detective asks are just Bateman second guessing himself, or even an uncontrollable voice in his head constantly reminding him why he can't kill Paul Allen, which is why he doesn't and just fantasizes about it. But the line between reality and fantasy is so blurred he genuinely believes he killed him which is why we see it happening and why he confesses but Paul Allen is still alive
Not to mention it is clearly indicated that the murder was fantasy since 3 people saw it and never questioned him the security, his friend (I forgot his name) and the lady he was with not to mention he left a blood trail and the security didn't react
oh so he DOES kill, lets say the homeless, and hookers, maybe even the old lady, but not paul allen. and his lawyer heard him, got his message, but of course he didnt kill paul allen, and his lawyer is also a "american psycho" so, he doesnt care if he killed hookers or other ppl that are irrelevant for him.
But what really blurs it is that the lawyer didn’t even recognize Bateman, so why should we assume he recognizes Paul Allen? It just as well could be real. Who knows?
The detective definitely isn’t real. He doesn’t ask anything meaningful, doesn’t notice Bateman sweating or being flustered, doesn’t respond to anything Bateman actually reveals, and when he asks to go for dinner with Bateman, they never actually say where and when. He seems more like an amalgamation of Bateman’s worries and fears if he actually killed someone. It also makes sense if you take the upperclass ignorance route since if this is his interpretation of a detective, he clearly doesn’t understand law enforcement which the upperclass seem to bypass a lot of the time. He also disappears after Bateman moves on from Paul Allen. His worries are gone = the detective is gone.
maybe i have a different take because I watch a ton of interrogation tapes - hours and hours. He doesn't move on from Paul Allen and you can see that when he calls his lawyer. Secondly, his secretary set up the lunch date with Det. Kimball. We know this because she handles his appointments and in the scene where Bateman almost kills her with the nail gun she reminds him of the lunch date with Kimball as she leaves. Additionally, psychopaths tend to think they are so smart and cunning that they can evade a police investigation. We see this constantly with interrogation tapes where people wave their right to legal counsel and try to talk there way out of it (it never works). Bateman absolutely falls for this when he speaks with Det. Kimball every single time. Kimball even goes as far to tell Bateman "that's not what I have" when questioning his alibi to which Bateman doesn't even let the detective read his notes before quickly coming up with a false alibi.
It takes time to build a case. Kimball needs to go around and talk to a lot of people, not just bateman. And he is investigating allens disaapearance, not murder. And of course he notices bateman sweating ect. Doesnt mean he would have to say anything about it
actually if you noticed when he showed patrick the music cd, he was shining a light in his eye to get a reaction out of him. its a way detectives check for psychopathy because psychopaths tend to not have a reaction to stimuli whereas normal people would move out of the way or close their eyes because of the light. i might be reading into this wrong sorry im only 14
things almost were in his head. in the scene where he is dragging the body bag to his car, you see a blood trail following him. but as he exits the building we see where he walked from, and there is not a drop of blood to be seen.
the first time i started to think it's not real because if i noticed correctly, he shot way more bullets from his pistol than should probably be possible
Yes. Plus the security/staff not noticing the blood stain while he was dragging the bag w/ body. Plus, he was not even cared at all about the blood stain too!!
if you rewatch the scene where he goes to visit paul allen’s house only for it to be renovated, I’d argue that the realter covered up the murders for her own self interest as it would greatly diminish the value of the property. Its very eerie when looking at that scene with that view.
@@creatommotearc346 the guy who wrote the book confirmed. All things that happened were real, maybe slighlty exhaggerated since Patrick was already mentally ill. The book is also clear that all things happened.
I started to think it was a dream sequence when the police cars blew up when he shot at them and even Patrick stopped and seemed confused at it, I didn’t expect damn near the entire movie to be in his head though. Ending was great
The problem with most "dream" movies is they have scenes that the dreamer isn't in. For instance in Wizard of Oz, how does the wicked witch have her own scene plotting against Dorothy if it's all in her head? If it were part of her dream, she'd see that part too. American Psycho doesn't have scenes that he's not either in, or narrating.
Christian Bale is perfect for this role. I did notice that everything was stiff from the way they talked to the way they ate and partied it just seemed boring and emotionless. Mostly the colors of the movie are neutral, bland and plain like the upper classes personality but especially Patrick's house which describes his persona the most. Besides the people not caring that he's crazy because they are also inhumane, I thought it was also because of his status because besides the money he's a popular handsome man that's favorited and could get away with stuff like that but the latter makes more sense. Good analysis, gave a like.
Yeah Christian Bale is my favorite part of this movie. He's extremely versatile and it shows perfectly in this film. Apparently DiCaprio was supposed to get the role first but his management told him to pass on it (I always wonder what that would've been like. He definitely could've been pretty amazing as well. It's an interesting thought). I'm so glad you mentioned the colors and set design, that's such a great point. I always noticed it was bland as well and it sets the tone for the film so well. It's a risky decision that really pays off here. And yes, Patrick's status has a huge effect on how people treat him. That's also a really great point. We do often ignore the glaring flaws of our heroes. Thank you so much for watching and liking, it means a lot! So glad you enjoyed!!
@lucasblue20 I just read an interview where the actors working w him thought he was such a bad actor/ so cold and calculated behind his eyes /not natural and they completely took it back when they saw the entire movie. Genius
Also, the proof that everything was in his head is that he is too OCD about his appearance and apartment being spotless and so white. Imagining bloodbath there on that white carpet is impossible.
I think everything happened, but Batmen is too big to fail. Allen's apartment is found by his estate and is quickly cleaned... they can't lose the money, can't afford the optics. The horror of Patrick's life is that even a killing spree won't free him of it.
Yeah it represents how the upper class would decide to rather hide atrocious things than taking actual action because it would cause a huge fall from their status and income. Like when you mentioned Paul Allen’s place they saw the work of a serial killer but decided to just clean it up and get along with it because they know if the public found out a murderer was present it would take a toll on them. Or when Bateman was dragging out Paul Allen’s dead body luis just focuses on the bag and the blood trail left is cleaned up not caring about what left it
Honestly you may be right about Kimball being imaginary. He’s apparently described as being just like Patrick in the novel but more moral. It’s possible his sense of morality is so repressed that he hallucinates an alter ego that keeps him in check. Nonetheless your analysis goes over stuff I never considered and have never seen on any other analysis videos.
Wow that's super interesting to hear, and it really makes sense. Kimball really does seem like a very isolated character, only there for Patrick. I'm glad to hear this insight! And thank you so much, I'm really glad the analysis could introduce some new ideas. It's always a goal for me to include my most unique and personal thoughts. Thank you so much for watching!!
I think all his killings were hallucinated. Psychopaths have these thoughts but many don’t commit any murders. Psychopaths tend to be very financially successful because their lack of empathy pushes them to higher levels.
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I think it did all happen. The two closest people to his confessions would ignore him for a reason. The lawyer ignored him because he didn’t want to take on a case he knew he was going to loose (superficiality), and the realtor in Paul’s apartment knew he did it, and saw the bodies, but would rather sell the apartment than let anyone know there were murders there (greed)
When you mentioned the lawyer part, could the lawyer just have mistaken Paul Allen for someone else like he did with Patrick? Or did he know? Or was Paul Allen not actually Murdered?
I liked a comment on some other American Psycho video where a person wrote this about the ending: There are 3 scenarios that explain the ending. 1) Patrick actually killed everyone but since in the movie everyone is so self absorbed no one can actually remember any one else because all they can think about is themselves. 2) The conspiracy - his lawyer and the woman selling Paul Allan's apartment covered up for him and also maybe the detective helped to cover it up. Since it's mentioned that his father is the CEO of the company. 3) He was just imagining all or at least some of this happening while in reality it wasn't.
Personally I think it’s a combination all especially of 2 & 3. I think they cleaned up the mess for him but he didn’t do everything he thought he did. Also everyone is hella self observed in that circle. Power and money gets a lot of people out of a lot of mess & his dad was CEO. They’ve got that silent wealth.
Thank you!! Yeah my classic analyses are pretty lowkey, but I'm so glad you found this one. Thank you for subscribing, feel free to suggest any new or old film you would like to see analyzed as well! I'd be happy to do it and add it to the poll.
I’ve been watching Chris stuckman For years and other famous RUclips reviewer’s and I have to say first night reviewing your videos you are amazing please keep it up #1
Wow thank you so much!! Chris Stuckmann is my favorite movie reviewer on RUclips, so it means everything to me that you even mentioned his name. I'll certainly keep the videos coming every single week (except this coming Saturday because of an intense heatwave in my city that made my room unbearable to edit in haha). Thank you so much, it really means so much to me!!
Thank you so much! I'm so glad it was clear and understandable, and I'm super happy to hear you loved it! It really means so much to me, thank you for watching!!
Thank you! Yeah this movie isn't as dense as some others like Fight Club or No Country for Old Men. A huge part of the film's appeal is it's satire and parody which are very purposefully simplistic. Thank you for watching!!
Hey, I remember telling you I was gonna watch Hard To Be A God and I watched it today. It is incredibly immersive and all of the praise makes perfect sense. I just felt like I was another person on this planet the way the camera was always in motion. The absence of music was also a great choice to heighten the immersion. Everything felt so lived in. It was really disgusting but in a good way haha it's such a unique experience. Its criticism on society and the development of civilization I still need to think about but I will certainly add this to my polls list for a full analysis. Thank you for this!!
@@lucasblue20 Thank you for taking the time to reply. You have been analysing films that I enjoyed dearly like Pi and The Lighthouse. Strange how they are mostly in black and white, like how a colouring book starts out before you add colour to it. Also, I noticed those 'How to Beat' videos are popular nowadays. Maybe for Hard to Be a God, you could sidetrack into How to Beat a God :) too.
I am so glad this was clear and concise! It's always my goal to make my analysis as understandable as possible because the movies themselves can be super confusing so thank you so much! And thank you for watching and subscribing! Feel free to recommend anything new or old!!
He developed and grew his psychotic personality through not getting caught. The business card scene, all of the people he conversed with was labeled a vice president. And if I'm not mistaken his father owns the company that he works for. The lawyer and the power of his father, cleaning up his mess and protecting him. His apartment is apparently connected with Paul's, when the woman ran and tried to get help she finds Paul's apartment. And there was no one anywhere in the whole building. I believe his father had taken care of that problem hoping his son would eventually get over his mental problems and keeping him out of jail and the press. When he confessed to the lawyer and the next day the apartment was clean! When he asked him about it again the lawyer confirmed that confession and told him to be quite. They covered it all up and made it disappear. He was crazy, well connected and protected. In my opinion.
Astute analysis of the film. I agree. It's Bateman's psychopathy in a setting that is a hot bed of societal narcissism: Wall Street. Patrick assimilates. He doesn't stand out because he is (successfully) blending in. Special notice of the generic pill bottle shown briefly throughout I saw this as Patrick having been diagnosed with a personality disorder and possibly some other nondescript condition that could be treated with pills...
Thank you so much and yes, assimilate is the perfect word. He's become the culture and knows nothing more even if he tries. And yeah, I was looking closely for a description on the pill bottle but couldn't see anything specific. Like you said though, it ties in with the disorders or conditions that Patrick likely has. I love your insights! Thank you so much for watching!!
*The Actual Screenwriter Literally said that the killings DID happen!! You can't fight with the person who actually wrote it. She said that she was mad that she left it open-ended because WAY too many people thought it was "all a dream" or "all in his head". But it was ALL real and the ending was a wrap up of the points of the movie which is making fun of the consumerism and superficiality of 80s/90s Wallstreet bros who got away with everything. The whole thing of people not knowing who Patrick even is, including his lawyer was described by the screenwriter like this; that they're all so coked-up and self absorbed that they don't even spend a second getting to know anything about others around them unless they aspire to be them. Hence why those who don't know who Patrick is even when speaking about him talk crap about him. They think so little of him that they don't even know that they're talking to him because they don't find him significant enough to remember. Also another point she said was to show how rich, white men in America literally get away with murder and no one bats an eye. The screenwriter is actually mad that the "it was all in his head" -people missed that point completely. Such as how when he went back to Allen's place to clean up the crime scene, it was already cleaned up by the building owner who we saw tell Batemen to leave the apartment. The message there was about how the realtor noticed that Allen was gone and she needed/wanted to sell his place to get her money from his property again and she would do anything to make money on it (even by covering up a murder). All the realtor cared about was selling the Very desirable NY apartment that everyone and anyone who was anyone would want and would pay top dollar for. It was even spelled out for the audience when she caught Bateman in his lie when she said "there was no listing for the apartment in the paper."*
I'm so happy to hear this, thank you! It's one of the most meaningful things when someone has new ideas emerge from the video. Thank you so much for watching!!
Than you so much! So glad you enjoyed!! And yeah apparently the book is just as great in every way. I heard it's really funny and has even more layers to it than the film. Thank you for watching!!
We had the same analysis brother ! I can’t believe I found someone to break the movies down like I like to sometimes. Much love and support & keep going !
Thank you so much my friend! It’s so cool to hear we’re on the same page when there can be so many different interpretations. I’m so glad you enjoyed and I’ll certainly keep them coming. Thank you again!!
Also i think it also enrages him that he can’t be seen, as in who he really is by the coworkers , his identity is always mistaken , meaning that he trapped in his public facade, and he can never be who he truly is
In fact, there’s a little detail, you guys might not noticed. It’s in the scene before Patrick killed that two prostitute. When he let them “interact “ with each other, he himself was interpreting the background music he’s playing. And at that moment, the prostitute named Christine, looked at him in a… caring way? And before that she’s obviously sick of him. What does that suppose to mean?
I think that your thoughts on the characters not questioning his behavior is right but at the same time I think some of the things he does infront of them are in his mind
"Not a single clear identifiable emotion, except greed and disgust" makes him sound like a cat. In fact, I suspect that the entire movie is just a cat imagining what his owner does during the day. The movie portrays him as a person, but he's really just a cat who, instead of killing people, is just killing mice that wander into his human's apartment, the alley, etc. That's why nobody bats an eyelash at all of the bodies. All of the business scenes are just a cat imagining what humans do during the day; it explains the awkwardness of each interaction as well as the imprecision in showing what "Patrick" actually does. In fact, I suspect that Patrick is really no more than Paul Allen's cat.
wow. you’re straightforward and develop a good analysis to a good film. how do you manage to interpret these things. how do i get wise like you sir. amazing job
Watch it again. The scene where Patrick was dragging the body out with the trail of blood. When the camera pans outside of the building, no blood. He thinks of himself as a threat. He's not. He's actually just....... I have to return some tapes....!
Really wel explained I was searching for what this movie really meant and i had a idea about it and this helps even more thank you i believe most of the things happend in his head but not the homeless man i think that was real but i accept if people think it was real everybody his own pereception on it Great vid man🙏🙌
Thank you! We agree on pretty much everything it seems, and I'm really glad you see it all as subjective. There are so many ways to take this film because of all the details, I love it. I'm so glad you enjoyed, thank you so much for watching!!
While I didn't much care for the film when it came out, I watched it a couple decades later with my son & now realize its brilliance on so many levels. During those 20 years, I worked on Wall Street -- where we all aspire to become a VP (as I did, with a business card to prove it) yet felt empty from the banality of material trappings. I ended up starting my own business, where I could regain my individual self. My son's take was that some of the murders were real, the homeless man & probably Paul Allen -- while the rest was steeped in fantasy. The lawyer was mixed up with names anyway, so might have mistaken Paul Allen for some others he was having dinner with in London. In the Charlie Rose interview, Mary Harron encouraged the viewer to come up with their own interpretation, which makes the film all the more powerful. At its heart is a portrayal of a protagonist with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder -- a psychopathology that creates delusions (when the individual hides the Shadow Self with the masks they wear every day).
Bravo ! I have to admit I've watched the movie long time ago because of the talented Christian Bale😀 perfect for the role (wonder if he wasn't chosen for Equilibrium because of his brilliant role in American Psycho) . It is quite a good depiction of the narcissist perverse/psychopath but from an exterior point of view, I don't think a true perverse can analyse what he is. I really appreciated your point on the societal upper class dynamics !
Thank you!! Yeah I agree that a perverse psychopath can't accurately analyze who they are and that's exactly the cycle that Patrick seems to be trapped in. And thank you again! I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed the upper class ignorance part because I was super fascinated by the symbolism of the fact that Patrick's affiliates never noticed his psychopathy. By the way, I'll be doing a poll with Dogville very soon. Can't wait to watch it!!
Upon first watch I noticed everytime Patrick says something to someone they hear something totally different either everyone is compete idiots or he never said it
I read the book, which Mary Herron tried to emulate as best she can. The film does indeed follow the film very closely, lifting whole sections of dialogue from it unaltered, although some of the events are ordered differently in order to better create some sort of narrative. Mary Herron strongly believed that 'some' of the violence did indeed happen, such as the homeless man and the shooting of a taxi driver (a scene which she could not include in the film because of constraints). There is more biographical information in the book, for example, Patrick is visited by his bisexual arty brother, Sean, whom he dislikes. He visits an infirm mother. Nothing much is said about his father, although an image of him at his mother's bedside has his eyes scratched out (by Patrick?). The book begins on April 1st (!) and continues monotonously until about about a third of the way through, when Patrick commits his first act of violence (from out perspective) and it begins to wildly escalate. This book is about a psychopath who becomes psychotic. I am a pharmacist and I can assure you that benzodiazepines such as Dalmane and Halcion, which are consumed to excess, can cause paradoxical wakefulness, paranoia and hallucinations. His nightly s&m pornography habit (a recurring humourless gag), could, in his mind, be confused for the real thing and as in fact our whole conception of him, from his great physique and sexual prowess. It's a first-person account, except in one part, and in the penultimate chapter when the lawyer reveals Paul Allen is alive and well (is he? Or did he confuse him for someone else?) he mistakes Bateman for someone else and describes him as a loser etc. One gets the sense that Patrick Bateman is a more fragile, delusional fellow who quietly works in the office and has sunken into drug addiction in which he envisions himself as someone else, a sigma male predator that inflicts so much violence on women. Where does his narcissism and rage come from? In the book, towards the end, Patrick awakens from a dream, his mind racing with thoughts that disturbed his sleep and casually recalls what some other male pupil 'did to him' in his boarding school. Childhood and adolescent sexual abuse can cause borderline personality disorder, rage, insecurity (which is the true underlying cause of narcissism) and sexual promiscuity or sexual inadequacy and the latter can be the underlying cause of misogyny. So that one line, to me, is the key to understanding Patrick Bateman's motivations. The book is therefore different to the film, there are some scenes that couldn't be filmed and financial constraints come into play. The Third Person account of Bateman's rampage (an out-of-body experience? A clue that Bateman imagined the whole thing?) and an earlier short daytime scene in the book with Bateman completely goofing on pills and staggering up and down the street, are clues that all is not how Patrick perceives it.
Wonderful, well putes! Just finished And got mind blowed away, me and my girlfriend were staring at each other at the credits! Thank you much! Shout out from Brazil
Haha wow thank you so much for this! I've only had this channel for a year, so I'm really glad you're enjoying! So much more to come, thank you again!!
9:15 it isn’t just the upper class that are desensitised (I’m disabled and haven’t been able to leave the house in 11 years so my info is a little outdated but I doubt much has changed if anything it’s probably gotten worse) I can’t count the times I have seen people walk past a homeless person slumped in a doorway completely without seeing them, they are meters away but go fully unnoticed because they don’t want to see them, most people walk around in a happy little bubble (or depending on what’s going on in their life’s no so happy) they are fully enclosed in their own worlds not seeing anything but themselves, now this is a mental defence kicking in, our Subconscience filters out anything that may harm us only flagging stuff that may be a danger but as humans we are meant to be the masters of out mind or at least we like to think we are.
Thank you so much my friend! You’re the first person to request Whiplash and I actually haven’t seen that movie but I heard it’s excellent and I know the whole student vs teacher aspect would be super interesting to explore. And yeah Memento is a classic, I could do that as well. I’ve had quite a few requests on that too. I’ll put both of these in an upcoming poll (the one after the one upcoming now). Thank you so much for the suggestion and thank you for watching!!
@@lucasblue20 no problem i actually watched the clips for american psycho and then i accidentally stumbled upon your chanel watched 3 videos of classics and i see you analyze very well, i would like too message you of a cool detail about whiplash when you watch it i think it would be a good thing for the video if you want reply too me ill give you my discord or you give me mine then ill message you there
@Robo Tiger let’s do it! The only thing is I don’t really know what discord is haha could you tell me how to connect with you on it? It would be really cool!
@@lucasblue20 okay discord is like skype but better see it on google it is now more used when you see this message tell me your nickname and # number we can connect that way ill add you then
One thing I love about the scene w the detective is that the director made him film it 3 times with one scene where he knew Patrick was the killer, one scene where didn’t know, and another where he was unsure. Genius
Oh nice, you have way more insight on the themes and ideas since you've read the book, so that is so great to hear!! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! And yes, even though the movie is hilarious, Patrick's story is pretty tragic. Thanks so much for watching!!
@@lucasblue20 Yeah, putting aside the gruesome thing he did throughout the story, his motivation just stems from the lack of human interaction that exists in elite lifestyle, like you mentioned. I feel like Patrick could use a therapist lol Also, try checking out the book if you're interested, it's a great roller coaster ride hah. Cheers
@@sacredyveltal4688 Yeah I gotta read this book, it seems too fascinating and funny. When I have read it, I'll let you know and maybe I'll do a movie vs. book video. I think that could be cool later down the road with the channel. Thank you so much for this!
When I first saw American Psycho back in 2000 I was disappointed probably because I was hoping for another Natural Born Killers type movie. I watched it again on Netflix 2 months ago & got a much better vibe from it as there were no expectations & I had forgotten most of the movie, I watched it again a month later & discovered how funny it was. I keep seeing new things each time I watch it & I laugh even harder. My favorite scene is him trying to put the cat in the ATM. I mean how ridiculous & funny that he thought he could fit it in such a small slot. Good review!
In this movie me interpretation looks like his secretary is closest to real kill and he resist other jus was in his head, because is no music. I think he sit in office listening music and drawing kill
Wow this is so great to hear, thank you! Yeah, it's so subjective when it comes to who he's harming and why he's harming them. It makes the film so fun to watch and re-watch. Thank you so much for subscribing and watching, it means a lot!!
Great analysis! I would like to think it is all in his head, the moment I started to believe this was when the cop cars exploded. Cars don't just explode when you shoot them with a pistol except in wild action movies. I think this film was too based in reality for something like that to happen.
I am sure it was implied his father was covering up for his murders, you never actually meet his father, but you understand that he is a wall street bigwig that essentially gave Patrick his job. the climax and confession to his lawyer (who was likely hired by his father) was likely forwarded to his dad, and they immediately worked overnight to cover everything up. Like yes, the movie focuses on Patrick's experience throughout the movie, but the real horror isn't that Patrick is killing people, it's that people with immense wealth and power will prioritize their own fcked up ideal reality over the well being of anyone outside of their circle.
That was a great analysis, as I haven't seen this film (I must be one of the few that can't see it) , it triggered me. Now I can see it through your nterpretation.
I hope you enjoy! And yeah it’s all super self-aware with satirical misogyny, sexism, and stereotyping. None of it is genuine. Thank you so much for watching and I’m so glad u enjoyed!!
Great analysis. I would just add that this all definitely happened, there is a book and also this has been confirmed. As confirmed by the director Mary Harron: “It's ambiguous in the novel whether or not it's real, or how much of it is real, and we decided, right off the bat, first conversation about the book, that we hate movies, books, stories that ended and ‘it was all a dream’ or ‘it was all in his head"’. We really set out to make it really clear that he was really killing these people, that this was really happening.” Also confirmed by the author of the novel Bret Easton Ellis: “If none of the murders actually happened, the entire point of the novel would be rendered moot.”
I don't think Patrick's rage stems from an innate hatred of other people. If anything, he has no interest or concern for them whatsoever, beyond his incessant need for their approval and his extreme negative reaction to every perceived "slight". I believe all of his anger is entirely directed inward, due to his unconscious awareness that in reality he's nothing but an empty shell pretending to be human. He lives everyday with a profound sense of inferiority, tortured by the knowledge of just how crucial it is to play the part well despite the fact that he's not quite smart enough to pull it off convincingly (which I believe he's also aware of on some level). Violence is simply an outlet for his rage, not driven by hatred for the victims but self loathing triggered by his abject fear of exposure while simultaneously acknowledging its inevitably.
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I do agree. I think he only killed the woman that gave him a piece of blonde hair, and the homeless man. I feel the homeless man wasn't a planned killing, I think he was going to be nice to him and maybe even help him. But he is still filled with anger (especially after the card scene) and starts to insult and then kill him and the dog accompanying the homeless man to release the anger quickly. Him, being upper class would make sense, especially since a good amount of the people Patrick "Kills" could be lower class, such as the prostitutes and the homeless killings he admits to his lawyer. I believe Patrick only killed that homeless man to release the anger he had. What I would say, it's a mix of him being in a world where everyone is greedy, and obsessed with self-image, Schizophrenia, And his own messed up fantasy. So, I'm going to say he's killed at least 2-3 people at most. He did not kill Paul Allen; He did not kill anyone with a chainsaw. One thing I want to point out, is that one thing Patrick is passionate about is music. Music could be an escape from his insanity and his thoughts of killing. Every time I'm on the school bus, heading or leaving to school, I listen to music. And if I'm able to, I sometimes listen to music in school, or just in the car to make a trip go by faster. When he's in the limo, he's listening to music to avoid talking to Evelyn. He listens to music when he's at work. So, his love for music, and my love for music, kind of gives me the feeling we have something in common. I mean, I'll listen to a song on the school bus so I can prepare myself for going to a place I hate going, because I absolutely hate school. And on the way back, I listen to music that I enjoy heavily, and has a happier tone to it because I'm leaving school and I'm going home, and also because I am just a casual music enjoyer. Patrick uses music as an escape. I use music as an escape (sometimes). Patrick Walks down the hall to his office so he can avoid talking to people, I do the same on the bus sometimes. Of course, Patrick has a completely different taste in music. He'll be listening to Phil Collins, Genesis, Huey Luis and the news. I'll be listening to Led Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd, Ect. So, music is the only thing we know about his hobbies I feel like. And I think music is the only part of happiness Patrick feels except for fantasizing about killing and actually killing people, and watching people suffer. Music was very well used in the movie, I don't exactly like the music he's listening to, but I do like the way music is used so we can see a glimpse into Patrick Batemans last bit of sanity. Very great character analysis, and I think you did a great job.
You mentioned Kimball isn't real? Please explain. Great content man, subbed!
His girlfriend says he doesn’t have to work since his dad owns the company. I think he did kill all those people but his parents / family members are obviously loaded and are covering up his trail. It also dawned on me that the other dudes parents could have been covering up what they thought their son did even though it was Bateman. I just thought those details also add to whatever else was going on. Once he called the lawyers his dad got to work.
Impressive, very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s analysis..
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I cried at this comment, I'm sorry😂
He’s only in the movie for like 6 minutes
Omg he meant the joke about Paul Allen's card, obviously you haven't watched this film enough to understand the darkness.of it's humour
That is really super...how'd s nitwit like you get so tasteful?
I always saw the detective as a representation of the anxiety and fear Bateman had towards getting caught. The questions the detective asks are just Bateman second guessing himself, or even an uncontrollable voice in his head constantly reminding him why he can't kill Paul Allen, which is why he doesn't and just fantasizes about it. But the line between reality and fantasy is so blurred he genuinely believes he killed him which is why we see it happening and why he confesses but Paul Allen is still alive
I agree with every single word you've said haha you've spoken my mind!
Also notice how the detective stops showing up when he stops worrying about Paul Allen
Not to mention it is clearly indicated that the murder was fantasy since 3 people saw it and never questioned him the security, his friend (I forgot his name) and the lady he was with not to mention he left a blood trail and the security didn't react
oh so he DOES kill, lets say the homeless, and hookers, maybe even the old lady, but not paul allen. and his lawyer heard him, got his message, but of course he didnt kill paul allen, and his lawyer is also a "american psycho" so, he doesnt care if he killed hookers or other ppl that are irrelevant for him.
But what really blurs it is that the lawyer didn’t even recognize Bateman, so why should we assume he recognizes Paul Allen? It just as well could be real. Who knows?
The detective definitely isn’t real.
He doesn’t ask anything meaningful, doesn’t notice Bateman sweating or being flustered, doesn’t respond to anything Bateman actually reveals, and when he asks to go for dinner with Bateman, they never actually say where and when.
He seems more like an amalgamation of Bateman’s worries and fears if he actually killed someone. It also makes sense if you take the upperclass ignorance route since if this is his interpretation of a detective, he clearly doesn’t understand law enforcement which the upperclass seem to bypass a lot of the time.
He also disappears after Bateman moves on from Paul Allen. His worries are gone = the detective is gone.
maybe i have a different take because I watch a ton of interrogation tapes - hours and hours. He doesn't move on from Paul Allen and you can see that when he calls his lawyer. Secondly, his secretary set up the lunch date with Det. Kimball. We know this because she handles his appointments and in the scene where Bateman almost kills her with the nail gun she reminds him of the lunch date with Kimball as she leaves.
Additionally, psychopaths tend to think they are so smart and cunning that they can evade a police investigation. We see this constantly with interrogation tapes where people wave their right to legal counsel and try to talk there way out of it (it never works). Bateman absolutely falls for this when he speaks with Det. Kimball every single time. Kimball even goes as far to tell Bateman "that's not what I have" when questioning his alibi to which Bateman doesn't even let the detective read his notes before quickly coming up with a false alibi.
It takes time to build a case. Kimball needs to go around and talk to a lot of people, not just bateman. And he is investigating allens disaapearance, not murder.
And of course he notices bateman sweating ect. Doesnt mean he would have to say anything about it
actually if you noticed when he showed patrick the music cd, he was shining a light in his eye to get a reaction out of him. its a way detectives check for psychopathy because psychopaths tend to not have a reaction to stimuli whereas normal people would move out of the way or close their eyes because of the light. i might be reading into this wrong sorry im only 14
things almost were in his head. in the scene where he is dragging the body bag to his car, you see a blood trail following him. but as he exits the building we see where he walked from, and there is not a drop of blood to be seen.
If a prequel is made, it should be called Bateman Begins :)
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the first time i started to think it's not real because if i noticed correctly, he shot way more bullets from his pistol than should probably be possible
Yeah so does literally 99% of every movie ever made but that's beside the point
Yes. Plus the security/staff not noticing the blood stain while he was dragging the bag w/ body. Plus, he was not even cared at all about the blood stain too!!
The schedule Jean finds at the end is all the "murders" Patrick committed in his own mind, but none of them happened in real life..
if you rewatch the scene where he goes to visit paul allen’s house only for it to be renovated, I’d argue that the realter covered up the murders for her own self interest as it would greatly diminish the value of the property. Its very eerie when looking at that scene with that view.
that's not true, actually all/most murders did happen
That's definitely what that scene implied
@@verapamil07 how do you know?
@@creatommotearc346 the guy who wrote the book confirmed. All things that happened were real, maybe slighlty exhaggerated since Patrick was already mentally ill. The book is also clear that all things happened.
I started to think it was a dream sequence when the police cars blew up when he shot at them and even Patrick stopped and seemed confused at it, I didn’t expect damn near the entire movie to be in his head though. Ending was great
Was it all in his head though? 🤔
@@rozziehughes6251it was. Look at his apartment. He is too OCD about cleanness. Can you imagine bloodbath there? I dont
The problem with most "dream" movies is they have scenes that the dreamer isn't in. For instance in Wizard of Oz, how does the wicked witch have her own scene plotting against Dorothy if it's all in her head? If it were part of her dream, she'd see that part too. American Psycho doesn't have scenes that he's not either in, or narrating.
@@4elovechishe One little layer of newspaper isn't going to keep the carpets clean.
When Patrick says "I'm in touch with humanity" is a way to say that he knows humanity not that HE is human, Patrick is not human because of humanity
Christian Bale is perfect for this role. I did notice that everything was stiff from the way they talked to the way they ate and partied it just seemed boring and emotionless. Mostly the colors of the movie are neutral, bland and plain like the upper classes personality but especially Patrick's house which describes his persona the most. Besides the people not caring that he's crazy because they are also inhumane, I thought it was also because of his status because besides the money he's a popular handsome man that's favorited and could get away with stuff like that but the latter makes more sense. Good analysis, gave a like.
Yeah Christian Bale is my favorite part of this movie. He's extremely versatile and it shows perfectly in this film. Apparently DiCaprio was supposed to get the role first but his management told him to pass on it (I always wonder what that would've been like. He definitely could've been pretty amazing as well. It's an interesting thought). I'm so glad you mentioned the colors and set design, that's such a great point. I always noticed it was bland as well and it sets the tone for the film so well. It's a risky decision that really pays off here. And yes, Patrick's status has a huge effect on how people treat him. That's also a really great point. We do often ignore the glaring flaws of our heroes. Thank you so much for watching and liking, it means a lot! So glad you enjoyed!!
@@lucasblue20 happy to watch. good analysis like always
@lucasblue20 I just read an interview where the actors working w him thought he was such a bad actor/ so cold and calculated behind his eyes /not natural and they completely took it back when they saw the entire movie. Genius
Also, the proof that everything was in his head is that he is too OCD about his appearance and apartment being spotless and so white. Imagining bloodbath there on that white carpet is impossible.
I think everything happened, but Batmen is too big to fail.
Allen's apartment is found by his estate and is quickly cleaned... they can't lose the money, can't afford the optics.
The horror of Patrick's life is that even a killing spree won't free him of it.
I don't think he killed anyone. Don't you think someone saw something or relatives of Paul Allen would pay for the investigation? Does not add up.
Yeah it represents how the upper class would decide to rather hide atrocious things than taking actual action because it would cause a huge fall from their status and income. Like when you mentioned Paul Allen’s place they saw the work of a serial killer but decided to just clean it up and get along with it because they know if the public found out a murderer was present it would take a toll on them. Or when Bateman was dragging out Paul Allen’s dead body luis just focuses on the bag and the blood trail left is cleaned up not caring about what left it
Honestly you may be right about Kimball being imaginary. He’s apparently described as being just like Patrick in the novel but more moral. It’s possible his sense of morality is so repressed that he hallucinates an alter ego that keeps him in check. Nonetheless your analysis goes over stuff I never considered and have never seen on any other analysis videos.
Wow that's super interesting to hear, and it really makes sense. Kimball really does seem like a very isolated character, only there for Patrick. I'm glad to hear this insight! And thank you so much, I'm really glad the analysis could introduce some new ideas. It's always a goal for me to include my most unique and personal thoughts. Thank you so much for watching!!
I think all his killings were hallucinated. Psychopaths have these thoughts but many don’t commit any murders. Psychopaths tend to be very financially successful because their lack of empathy pushes them to higher levels.
We do get a glimpse into his feelings coming out. When he spared Jean.
I love how you meticulously analyzed this movie. Great analysis and great breakdown! Love your channel! Keep up the good work! ❤️
This means so much! Thank you!! It's really great to hear that you connect with the videos so well because I love creating them. I'll certainly keep the weekly videos coming. Feel free to give me movie suggestions too whenever you like!! Thank you!
Masterpiece of a film that has aged so well with the times; the meaning of it more true then it has ever been in reality
Completely agree with everything you've said
Exactly. Look at how they cover up hunter biden's crimes..I am not surprised.
I think it did all happen. The two closest people to his confessions would ignore him for a reason. The lawyer ignored him because he didn’t want to take on a case he knew he was going to loose (superficiality), and the realtor in Paul’s apartment knew he did it, and saw the bodies, but would rather sell the apartment than let anyone know there were murders there (greed)
what happened to the detective though why did he disappear
When you mentioned the lawyer part, could the lawyer just have mistaken Paul Allen for someone else like he did with Patrick? Or did he know? Or was Paul Allen not actually Murdered?
I liked a comment on some other American Psycho video where a person wrote this about the ending:
There are 3 scenarios that explain the ending. 1) Patrick actually killed everyone but since in the movie everyone is so self absorbed no one can actually remember any one else because all they can think about is themselves. 2) The conspiracy - his lawyer and the woman selling Paul Allan's apartment covered up for him and also maybe the detective helped to cover it up. Since it's mentioned that his father is the CEO of the company. 3) He was just imagining all or at least some of this happening while in reality it wasn't.
Personally I think it’s a combination all especially of 2 & 3. I think they cleaned up the mess for him but he didn’t do everything he thought he did. Also everyone is hella self observed in that circle. Power and money gets a lot of people out of a lot of mess & his dad was CEO. They’ve got that silent wealth.
I loved this! Can't believe it only has 200 views. You have a new sub!!
Thank you!! Yeah my classic analyses are pretty lowkey, but I'm so glad you found this one. Thank you for subscribing, feel free to suggest any new or old film you would like to see analyzed as well! I'd be happy to do it and add it to the poll.
Look at that editing, the tasteful length of run time… oh my god, it even has a water mark.
I’ve been watching Chris stuckman For years and other famous RUclips reviewer’s and I have to say first night reviewing your videos you are amazing please keep it up #1
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loved your explanation! very simplified and straight forward, great job
Thank you so much! I'm so glad it was clear and understandable, and I'm super happy to hear you loved it! It really means so much to me, thank you for watching!!
Yup like the way you explained, not overly complicating it. Straight forward movie, this one.
Thank you! Yeah this movie isn't as dense as some others like Fight Club or No Country for Old Men. A huge part of the film's appeal is it's satire and parody which are very purposefully simplistic. Thank you for watching!!
Hey, I remember telling you I was gonna watch Hard To Be A God and I watched it today. It is incredibly immersive and all of the praise makes perfect sense. I just felt like I was another person on this planet the way the camera was always in motion. The absence of music was also a great choice to heighten the immersion. Everything felt so lived in. It was really disgusting but in a good way haha it's such a unique experience. Its criticism on society and the development of civilization I still need to think about but I will certainly add this to my polls list for a full analysis. Thank you for this!!
@@lucasblue20 Disgust keeps us safe from contagious things, such as ideas.
@@IMFLondon haha very true, even fits in the context of this movie!!
@@lucasblue20 Thank you for taking the time to reply. You have been analysing films that I enjoyed dearly like Pi and The Lighthouse. Strange how they are mostly in black and white, like how a colouring book starts out before you add colour to it.
Also, I noticed those 'How to Beat' videos are popular nowadays. Maybe for Hard to Be a God, you could sidetrack into How to Beat a God :) too.
Other explanation videos are confusing than the movie, your explanation is very clear, thank you, good work, and I subscribed 👍🏻
I am so glad this was clear and concise! It's always my goal to make my analysis as understandable as possible because the movies themselves can be super confusing so thank you so much! And thank you for watching and subscribing! Feel free to recommend anything new or old!!
He developed and grew his psychotic personality through not getting caught. The business card scene, all of the people he conversed with was labeled a vice president. And if I'm not mistaken his father owns the company that he works for. The lawyer and the power of his father, cleaning up his mess and protecting him. His apartment is apparently connected with Paul's, when the woman ran and tried to get help she finds Paul's apartment. And there was no one anywhere in the whole building. I believe his father had taken care of that problem hoping his son would eventually get over his mental problems and keeping him out of jail and the press. When he confessed to the lawyer and the next day the apartment was clean! When he asked him about it again the lawyer confirmed that confession and told him to be quite. They covered it all up and made it disappear. He was crazy, well connected and protected.
In my opinion.
You saying that blown up police cars were real? Lol no way you can get away with that in NY
I really liked your analysis. Very detailed, and I must say, I learned a few things that I didn’t notice at first. Kudos
It's so fulfilling to hear this, I'm so glad you enjoyed! Thank you!!
10/10 great vid
Thank you so much!!
Astute analysis of the film. I agree. It's Bateman's psychopathy in a setting that is a hot bed of societal narcissism: Wall Street. Patrick assimilates. He doesn't stand out because he is (successfully) blending in. Special notice of the generic pill bottle shown briefly throughout I saw this as Patrick having been diagnosed with a personality disorder and possibly some other nondescript condition that could be treated with pills...
Thank you so much and yes, assimilate is the perfect word. He's become the culture and knows nothing more even if he tries. And yeah, I was looking closely for a description on the pill bottle but couldn't see anything specific. Like you said though, it ties in with the disorders or conditions that Patrick likely has. I love your insights! Thank you so much for watching!!
your analysis is great!! thanks!!
*The Actual Screenwriter Literally said that the killings DID happen!! You can't fight with the person who actually wrote it. She said that she was mad that she left it open-ended because WAY too many people thought it was "all a dream" or "all in his head". But it was ALL real and the ending was a wrap up of the points of the movie which is making fun of the consumerism and superficiality of 80s/90s Wallstreet bros who got away with everything. The whole thing of people not knowing who Patrick even is, including his lawyer was described by the screenwriter like this; that they're all so coked-up and self absorbed that they don't even spend a second getting to know anything about others around them unless they aspire to be them. Hence why those who don't know who Patrick is even when speaking about him talk crap about him. They think so little of him that they don't even know that they're talking to him because they don't find him significant enough to remember. Also another point she said was to show how rich, white men in America literally get away with murder and no one bats an eye. The screenwriter is actually mad that the "it was all in his head" -people missed that point completely. Such as how when he went back to Allen's place to clean up the crime scene, it was already cleaned up by the building owner who we saw tell Batemen to leave the apartment. The message there was about how the realtor noticed that Allen was gone and she needed/wanted to sell his place to get her money from his property again and she would do anything to make money on it (even by covering up a murder). All the realtor cared about was selling the Very desirable NY apartment that everyone and anyone who was anyone would want and would pay top dollar for. It was even spelled out for the audience when she caught Bateman in his lie when she said "there was no listing for the apartment in the paper."*
What a coincidence - I just (re)watched this movie last night!
Haha that's awesome! This film is definitely one to rewatch every now and then. It's so good and so much fun. Thank you so much for watching!!
This really opened me up to new perspectives about the film, great video!!!
I'm so happy to hear this, thank you! It's one of the most meaningful things when someone has new ideas emerge from the video. Thank you so much for watching!!
Great analysis. Looking forward to reading the book soon
Than you so much! So glad you enjoyed!! And yeah apparently the book is just as great in every way. I heard it's really funny and has even more layers to it than the film. Thank you for watching!!
We had the same analysis brother ! I can’t believe I found someone to break the movies down like I like to sometimes. Much love and support & keep going !
Thank you so much my friend! It’s so cool to hear we’re on the same page when there can be so many different interpretations. I’m so glad you enjoyed and I’ll certainly keep them coming. Thank you again!!
Also i think it also enrages him that he can’t be seen, as in who he really is by the coworkers , his identity is always mistaken , meaning that he trapped in his public facade, and he can never be who he truly is
In fact, there’s a little detail, you guys might not noticed. It’s in the scene before Patrick killed that two prostitute. When he let them “interact “ with each other, he himself was interpreting the background music he’s playing. And at that moment, the prostitute named Christine, looked at him in a… caring way? And before that she’s obviously sick of him. What does that suppose to mean?
I think that your thoughts on the characters not questioning his behavior is right but at the same time I think some of the things he does infront of them are in his mind
"Not a single clear identifiable emotion, except greed and disgust" makes him sound like a cat. In fact, I suspect that the entire movie is just a cat imagining what his owner does during the day.
The movie portrays him as a person, but he's really just a cat who, instead of killing people, is just killing mice that wander into his human's apartment, the alley, etc. That's why nobody bats an eyelash at all of the bodies. All of the business scenes are just a cat imagining what humans do during the day; it explains the awkwardness of each interaction as well as the imprecision in showing what "Patrick" actually does. In fact, I suspect that Patrick is really no more than Paul Allen's cat.
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@@zephyrsaix8319 its clear, Patrick is a cat
Honestly somehow this makes sense.
What the fuck
wow. you’re straightforward and develop a good analysis to a good film. how do you manage to interpret these things. how do i get wise like you sir. amazing job
Amazaing and really well thought-out video essay. It summarizes the movie's themes and values perfectly. Great watch!
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm really glad you enjoyed because the movie is fantastic!!
Awesome. I really enjoyed this analysis of one of my absolute favorite movie's.
This is an amazing analysis. I just know you did amazingly in Language Arts lol.
Immaculate. Subscribed.
Thank you so much!!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I enjoyed it a lot.
This movie is a classic also your analysis of Patrick Bateman is spot on.
Thank you so much! I love the Patrick character, one of my favorites ever. And yes, this movie is most certainly a classic!!
@@lucasblue20 keep these reviews coming !
@@damianstarks3338 i most certainly will! New video tmrw morning
7:19 when evelyn says I hate that job because his father is the owner of company which Patrick works that's why Patrick said I wanted to fit in 😊
I interpreted the conversation he had with “his lawyer” at the end, as they covered it up for him.
Watch it again. The scene where Patrick was dragging the body out with the trail of blood. When the camera pans outside of the building, no blood. He thinks of himself as a threat. He's not. He's actually just....... I have to return some tapes....!
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Good work
Great content! 👏👏
Very nicely explained very detailed a sub well deserved
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You said we’ll cover this/that and I was like waiting for everything and the video ended 😂😂
Great review. I really enjoyed, thank you.
So happy to hear! Thank you so much!!
What a clever explanation!
Really wel explained
I was searching for what this movie really meant and i had a idea about it and this helps even more thank you i believe most of the things happend in his head but not the homeless man i think that was real but i accept if people think it was real everybody his own pereception on it
Great vid man🙏🙌
Thank you! We agree on pretty much everything it seems, and I'm really glad you see it all as subjective. There are so many ways to take this film because of all the details, I love it. I'm so glad you enjoyed, thank you so much for watching!!
While I didn't much care for the film when it came out, I watched it a couple decades later with my son & now realize its brilliance on so many levels. During those 20 years, I worked on Wall Street -- where we all aspire to become a VP (as I did, with a business card to prove it) yet felt empty from the banality of material trappings. I ended up starting my own business, where I could regain my individual self. My son's take was that some of the murders were real, the homeless man & probably Paul Allen -- while the rest was steeped in fantasy. The lawyer was mixed up with names anyway, so might have mistaken Paul Allen for some others he was having dinner with in London.
In the Charlie Rose interview, Mary Harron encouraged the viewer to come up with their own interpretation, which makes the film all the more powerful. At its heart is a portrayal of a protagonist with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder -- a psychopathology that creates delusions (when the individual hides the Shadow Self with the masks they wear every day).
I could get into more of that topic... but I have to return some videotapes
Hahahaha this made me laugh very hard after reading your theory, love your theory as well
This is awesome video! Keep going yo!💕❤️
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Bravo ! I have to admit I've watched the movie long time ago because of the talented Christian Bale😀 perfect for the role (wonder if he wasn't chosen for Equilibrium because of his brilliant role in American Psycho) . It is quite a good depiction of the narcissist perverse/psychopath but from an exterior point of view, I don't think a true perverse can analyse what he is. I really appreciated your point on the societal upper class dynamics !
Thank you!! Yeah I agree that a perverse psychopath can't accurately analyze who they are and that's exactly the cycle that Patrick seems to be trapped in. And thank you again! I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed the upper class ignorance part because I was super fascinated by the symbolism of the fact that Patrick's affiliates never noticed his psychopathy. By the way, I'll be doing a poll with Dogville very soon. Can't wait to watch it!!
Good analysis. Nice video
Thank you so much!!
Upon first watch I noticed everytime Patrick says something to someone they hear something totally different either everyone is compete idiots or he never said it
I read the book, which Mary Herron tried to emulate as best she can. The film does indeed follow the film very closely, lifting whole sections of dialogue from it unaltered, although some of the events are ordered differently in order to better create some sort of narrative. Mary Herron strongly believed that 'some' of the violence did indeed happen, such as the homeless man and the shooting of a taxi driver (a scene which she could not include in the film because of constraints). There is more biographical information in the book, for example, Patrick is visited by his bisexual arty brother, Sean, whom he dislikes. He visits an infirm mother. Nothing much is said about his father, although an image of him at his mother's bedside has his eyes scratched out (by Patrick?). The book begins on April 1st (!) and continues monotonously until about about a third of the way through, when Patrick commits his first act of violence (from out perspective) and it begins to wildly escalate. This book is about a psychopath who becomes psychotic. I am a pharmacist and I can assure you that benzodiazepines such as Dalmane and Halcion, which are consumed to excess, can cause paradoxical wakefulness, paranoia and hallucinations. His nightly s&m pornography habit (a recurring humourless gag), could, in his mind, be confused for the real thing and as in fact our whole conception of him, from his great physique and sexual prowess. It's a first-person account, except in one part, and in the penultimate chapter when the lawyer reveals Paul Allen is alive and well (is he? Or did he confuse him for someone else?) he mistakes Bateman for someone else and describes him as a loser etc. One gets the sense that Patrick Bateman is a more fragile, delusional fellow who quietly works in the office and has sunken into drug addiction in which he envisions himself as someone else, a sigma male predator that inflicts so much violence on women. Where does his narcissism and rage come from? In the book, towards the end, Patrick awakens from a dream, his mind racing with thoughts that disturbed his sleep and casually recalls what some other male pupil 'did to him' in his boarding school. Childhood and adolescent sexual abuse can cause borderline personality disorder, rage, insecurity (which is the true underlying cause of narcissism) and sexual promiscuity or sexual inadequacy and the latter can be the underlying cause of misogyny. So that one line, to me, is the key to understanding Patrick Bateman's motivations. The book is therefore different to the film, there are some scenes that couldn't be filmed and financial constraints come into play. The Third Person account of Bateman's rampage (an out-of-body experience? A clue that Bateman imagined the whole thing?) and an earlier short daytime scene in the book with Bateman completely goofing on pills and staggering up and down the street, are clues that all is not how Patrick perceives it.
Just watched it for the first time. Very well done analysis.
Hmmm. Very well made man. Thought provoking content. 👍
Thank you so much my friend, so happy to hear you enjoyed!
Great analysis, thanks,
This movie is really mind blowing. And your explanations are really great tho.
Thank you so much!! This movie blew my mind as well especially at the end haha thank you for watching!
Just watched the film and this was very insightful
Wonderful, well putes! Just finished And got mind blowed away, me and my girlfriend were staring at each other at the credits! Thank you much! Shout out from Brazil
Thank you so much my friend! Yeah, the movie shocked me as well in a fantastic way, it’s a true classic. All the best to you, from Canada 🇨🇦
It's great
Great video you definitely earned a subscription
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You explained this beautifully
This has to be by far the best analogy of the character of Patrick Bateman I've heard.
WOW, my mind exploded, I love its deep meaning. Thank you for the explanation, now it makes a lot of sense
Best analysis of the movie yet. Think you hit the nail on the head. Great work.
Wow this really means a lot! There are like a million RUclips analyses on this film, so thank you so much!! And thank you for watching!!
Really good analysis of the movie
How on earth have you only got 6k subscribers. You are amazing!
Haha wow thank you so much for this! I've only had this channel for a year, so I'm really glad you're enjoying! So much more to come, thank you again!!
9:15 it isn’t just the upper class that are desensitised (I’m disabled and haven’t been able to leave the house in 11 years so my info is a little outdated but I doubt much has changed if anything it’s probably gotten worse) I can’t count the times I have seen people walk past a homeless person slumped in a doorway completely without seeing them, they are meters away but go fully unnoticed because they don’t want to see them, most people walk around in a happy little bubble (or depending on what’s going on in their life’s no so happy) they are fully enclosed in their own worlds not seeing anything but themselves, now this is a mental defence kicking in, our Subconscience filters out anything that may harm us only flagging stuff that may be a danger but as humans we are meant to be the masters of out mind or at least we like to think we are.
Awesome video, Lucas Blue!!!!
Thank you!! So happy you enjoyed!!
Dude, pretty good criticism. I read this book in the mid 90's. Effing crazy.
Thank you my friend! I’ll be checking out this book soon, I would love to dig into the details of the novel. Thank you for watching!!
this video is amazing. instant sub
Thank you so much and welcome!! Plenty more to come!
i have to return some videotapes
dude you are great you should do memento of a classic or whiplash
Thank you so much my friend! You’re the first person to request Whiplash and I actually haven’t seen that movie but I heard it’s excellent and I know the whole student vs teacher aspect would be super interesting to explore. And yeah Memento is a classic, I could do that as well. I’ve had quite a few requests on that too. I’ll put both of these in an upcoming poll (the one after the one upcoming now). Thank you so much for the suggestion and thank you for watching!!
@@lucasblue20 no problem i actually watched the clips for american psycho and then i accidentally stumbled upon your chanel watched 3 videos of classics and i see you analyze very well, i would like too message you of a cool detail about whiplash when you watch it i think it would be a good thing for the video if you want reply too me ill give you my discord or you give me mine then ill message you there
i meant yours realized i typed mine 2 times ahahah
@Robo Tiger let’s do it! The only thing is I don’t really know what discord is haha could you tell me how to connect with you on it? It would be really cool!
@@lucasblue20 okay discord is like skype but better see it on google it is now more used when you see this message tell me your nickname and # number we can connect that way ill add you then
One thing I love about the scene w the detective is that the director made him film it 3 times with one scene where he knew Patrick was the killer, one scene where didn’t know, and another where he was unsure. Genius
Great analysis, I read the book and watched the movie and I believe your analysis was on point :)
Poor Patrick though...
Oh nice, you have way more insight on the themes and ideas since you've read the book, so that is so great to hear!! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! And yes, even though the movie is hilarious, Patrick's story is pretty tragic. Thanks so much for watching!!
@@lucasblue20 Yeah, putting aside the gruesome thing he did throughout the story, his motivation just stems from the lack of human interaction that exists in elite lifestyle, like you mentioned.
I feel like Patrick could use a therapist lol
Also, try checking out the book if you're interested, it's a great roller coaster ride hah.
Cheers
@@sacredyveltal4688 Yeah I gotta read this book, it seems too fascinating and funny. When I have read it, I'll let you know and maybe I'll do a movie vs. book video. I think that could be cool later down the road with the channel. Thank you so much for this!
@@lucasblue20 You're welcome! A video analysis/comparison between the book and movie would be interesting! I'll be looking forward to your decision :)
When I first saw American Psycho back in 2000 I was disappointed probably because I was hoping for another Natural Born Killers type movie. I watched it again on Netflix 2 months ago & got a much better vibe from it as there were no expectations & I had forgotten most of the movie, I watched it again a month later & discovered how funny it was. I keep seeing new things each time I watch it & I laugh even harder. My favorite scene is him trying to put the cat in the ATM. I mean how ridiculous & funny that he thought he could fit it in such a small slot. Good review!
just subbed good video!
Thank you so much! Plenty more to come, and please feel free to suggest me anything you like!!
In this movie me interpretation looks like his secretary is closest to real kill and he resist other jus was in his head, because is no music. I think he sit in office listening music and drawing kill
This 11minute video explained this movie more than other movie explained.
I've seen this film so many times and I didn't realise that was The Texas Chainsaw Massacre playing in the background of the stomach crunch scene.
O.o Mind blowing explanation of the movie, i got, maybe he didnt kill paul, but he killed others, and nobody cares. you sir, DESERVE my subscribe.
Wow this is so great to hear, thank you! Yeah, it's so subjective when it comes to who he's harming and why he's harming them. It makes the film so fun to watch and re-watch. Thank you so much for subscribing and watching, it means a lot!!
Great analysis! I would like to think it is all in his head, the moment I started to believe this was when the cop cars exploded. Cars don't just explode when you shoot them with a pistol except in wild action movies. I think this film was too based in reality for something like that to happen.
Hey, cool video. What did you think about the lawyer scene?
I never really understood this movie besides it being pure enjoyment carried by Bale’s amazing and psychotic performance.
I am sure it was implied his father was covering up for his murders, you never actually meet his father, but you understand that he is a wall street bigwig that essentially gave Patrick his job. the climax and confession to his lawyer (who was likely hired by his father) was likely forwarded to his dad, and they immediately worked overnight to cover everything up. Like yes, the movie focuses on Patrick's experience throughout the movie, but the real horror isn't that Patrick is killing people, it's that people with immense wealth and power will prioritize their own fcked up ideal reality over the well being of anyone outside of their circle.
That was a great analysis, as I haven't seen this film (I must be one of the few that can't see it) , it triggered me. Now I can see it through your nterpretation.
I hope you enjoy! And yeah it’s all super self-aware with satirical misogyny, sexism, and stereotyping. None of it is genuine. Thank you so much for watching and I’m so glad u enjoyed!!
Great analysis
that was really good 👏🏽
This was a really good video
Thank you so much, I’m really glad you enjoyed!!
Cool analysis and all .
But ahhh......
CAN YOU GET A RESERVATION AT DORSIA?!?!
Hahahaha thank you and no I cannot, but dinner at Dorsia with Patrick would be the dream
Great analysis. I would just add that this all definitely happened, there is a book and also this has been confirmed. As confirmed by the director Mary Harron: “It's ambiguous in the novel whether or not it's real, or how much of it is real, and we decided, right off the bat, first conversation about the book, that we hate movies, books, stories that ended and ‘it was all a dream’ or ‘it was all in his head"’. We really set out to make it really clear that he was really killing these people, that this was really happening.”
Also confirmed by the author of the novel Bret Easton Ellis: “If none of the murders actually happened, the entire point of the novel would be rendered moot.”
Well done!
I don't think Patrick's rage stems from an innate hatred of other people. If anything, he has no interest or concern for them whatsoever, beyond his incessant need for their approval and his extreme negative reaction to every perceived "slight". I believe all of his anger is entirely directed inward, due to his unconscious awareness that in reality he's nothing but an empty shell pretending to be human. He lives everyday with a profound sense of inferiority, tortured by the knowledge of just how crucial it is to play the part well despite the fact that he's not quite smart enough to pull it off convincingly (which I believe he's also aware of on some level). Violence is simply an outlet for his rage, not driven by hatred for the victims but self loathing triggered by his abject fear of exposure while simultaneously acknowledging its inevitably.