Clearly states these are his own thoughts and opinions Many of the people commenting: complete meltdown because they have their own opinions different than his...😂
@Sith Master Jar Jar Binks maybe but me personally to the people who will just agree with him no matter what says more about them than him. That they need people to tell them what to think because they are incapable of thinking for themselves or forming their own opinions.
For starters, I think we have to give credit where it's due. While the SW line has had a lot of issues with their set designs and choices, this set does demonstrate specific things that the community has been asking for: 1.) phase 2 Commander Cody, 2.) a lot of clones in a clone-related set, 3.) continued printing on the hip piece (although why the gunner doesn't get that is beyond me), 4.) for a troop carrying vehicle to actually have the space to carry troops. These are specific things that make me appreciate that there is some progress. I do agree with all the things you mentioned that could have been added. Honestly, for an extra $10 I would've liked 2 crab droids, get rid of the spider droid and battle droids, 2 super battle droids, and a 212th airborne (if they wanted to faithfully recreate those movie scenes). But again, to me this set demonstrates more of how Lego is beginning to listen more to the community rather than it demonstrating how they don't.
I think it's because the p1 plain clone minifig pack has those same legs and also I'm hoping wee see a phase 2 regular clone set in 2023 so that explains the reuse of legs and why it doesn't have a hip print
More over, the airborne trooper used in grievous starfighter would fit great here, and that figure actually has hip printing! Crazy why they didn't just chuck him in here but hey Lego is Lego after all
I mean yeah this is A start to making better products and actually listening to the demand of their own market and fanbase but man is there still ways to go.
I really think the holes in the helmets just add more customization options. Some clones wore flashlights and antenna things so I think they are ok. But I agree a crab droid would have been nice to see
Except it doesn’t add more customization options. The new holes are way too high up for antennas to look good on the helmet. So we’ve now essentially got holes that are useless for anything other than a visor, and that make the helmets look worse when they’re empty. It would not have been hard for LEGO to put the holes in the right place and just make a new visor mold.
@@TheGW923 have you put an antenna in the new helmets? I understand it looks like it may be too high up, but it may be in the same spot as phase 1 or mando helmets. I suggest making this call once we actually see an antenna in the new helmets before making a judgement.
@@benoberle9312 No it’s actually pretty objective. If you look at an actual clone helmet, antennas are supposed to attach lower down. LEGO put the hole in the wrong spot.
@@cyberdragon5247 I have not personally put an antenna in, but the hole is really high up on the helmet. It is definitely not anywhere close to the right spot. I have an image that makes this very clear, but can’t link it here. The point where antennas are supposed to attach on Phase 2 helmets is the circle thing LEGO already had on the previous mold. Instead of replacing that circle with the hole, they put the hole above the circle without removing it.
I only really have one major counterpoint and that's the helmet holes. I think the Phase 2 helmet in general should have holes in the same way that the Mandalorian helmet does. It'd be ideal to have every clone from now on have the 'new' helmet with the holes, and they can phase out the older one (which is probably what they're doing). The thing is with the 187th Troopers and Hunter is that they are already in production. You could use the argument of 'but this clone doesn't have holes' into infinity until you reach a point where there's no clones for sale. I think we should celebrate them implementing the change going forward instead of criticizing the change for not happening sooner (although it definitely should've, that's a criticism for 2013 LEGO not 2022 LEGO). In a perfect world, LEGO changes the mold for every clone on the market to just abruptly cut out the (hopefully now considered) old phase 2 helmet. I guess that's just too much effort for them for the few groups/people who'd notice and care. I don't think this is the biggest sin they've made here. The biggest problem is that the hole should've been done better. The fact the helmet has the smaller round shape directly under the hole looks ridiculous and as though they just took the helmets and drilled another hole in vaguely the right place. The new hole would be fine on it's own, but they should've shifted the old spot up a bit so that the hole looks like a part of the actual helmet (like with the mandalorian ones) or just flattened that area altogether
@@MandRproductions It's sad that we don't get clones as much as we used to...but honestly...unless LEGO was going to favor demand over current relevance in trends in the non-LEGO community...then we can't reasonably expect them to do this to the extent it was before. 2008-2014 was the Clone Wars era when the Clone Wars was airing, so it was a trend among the general population and SW fans so they could justify making tons of sets and that's why it got saturated with Clone sets. But with the Sequels and these new Disney+ shows... it's just not justified anymore. It's a bygone era that we have to somewhat cope with. The same applies to the 1999-2005 waves, Star Wars was born in the prequel era of pop culture and now we're moving away from that. Now that's not justification for LEGO to eradicate Clones, because the demand is clearly there. It's not like they don't make half the sets OT sets and they just ignore the other major trilogy people care about. Which is clearly wrong. Part of this is that we had significantly fewer Star Wars sets released for these last few years than we were used to. TL;DR the Clone Wars era is a bygone era in Star Wars, and the LEGO community must adapt although definitely still demand these clones.
Genuinely completely disagree - starting to feel like we’re in “impossible to please” territory. The droid complaint is silly, the palpatine hologram was expected by nobody, the helmets are an actual response to criticism from Lego - I mean this is a fantastic, 10/10 as it is. Let’s give them their flowers for once
This is a complete coincidence but *technically* the Clone Wars hadn’t ended when Cody and the gang were on Utapau because General Grievous hadn’t been killed or the planet hadn’t been freed so on a technicality the box art isn’t inaccurate but 100% by coincidence
My take... If obi wan was in the set it would have the Skywalker saga box art. They put clones in a set and no other main figure so they put clone wars box art because it's the most fitting box art just going off of the figs
@@MandRproductions look i love your vids and mostly agree with your opinions but I dont think it is so bad that it doesn't have an emperor Palpatine hologram. And also lego is all about creativity so the holes on the helmets can help kids create their own clones and stories. I mean the phase 1 clone troopers all had holes on their helmets I didnt hear anyone complain about it.
@@MandRproductions also don’t make a big deal of literal helmet holes, for the love of god, it is a HOLE and your acting like it is the end of the world
@@definitelynot_tfol36 yeah the old ones are so expensive as much as I want them, so I’m just really excited to have one I hope we can get one too haha
We should definitely strive for better in SW sets, but I kinda disagree on the helmet hole one. I get that it wasn't integrated very well, but I'd rather take the visual hit if it means being able to customize more clones. What if someone does want to add an antenna or visor to the 212th troopers, or gunner? A shame they didn't adjust the mold to make it look better, but I still think every P2 Clone should be given the new helmet going forwards
It probably would’ve been better if they had moved the first “hole” up on the helmet instead of leaving it and then adding a second one. they could’ve tried to like print on the visor or something so it’s good that they did this so you can customize clones. If you really hate them clone army customs sells just helmets
@@Fridgemasters the holes isn’t the problem like he said he says “bad” holes As in theyre in the wrong place. Granted if they were lower and on the actual dot then Cody’s visor would be covered up. But then that brings up the argument of well why did you make a bad/ awkward helmet design haha
While I understand the customization part that's also the problem. Most of the time lego doesn't include such customizations such as antennas and visors
just like Lego with squeezing us for our money he also needs money to live so a title like this generates more views and he gets more money and many times during the video he demonstrated he enjoys the set
oh come on that's such a low number. minifig scale Venator-class star destroyer with whole crew compliment and a Munificent-class star frigate with its whole crew compliment to fight each other
Very good points. I still love the walker though. We can never have too many at te sets. I'm hoping LEGO will finally give the CIS as much love as they do with the republic. Would be nice to see some CIS ships and the larger droids like the octuptarra droid.
I think LEGO is going to release at least 1 CIS set in next year’s jan wave to provide opposition to either the AT TE or republic fighter tank. I think it will most likely be a homing spider droid or a hail fire droid.
Ok but, the phase two Cody looks good,the helmet holes are actually pretty accurate to Cody. And I still think the holes in the helmets aren't the worst things Lego have produced
my brother in christ clone trooper accessory's are included as extra pieces (Edit: It has now been CONFIRMED that extra attachments are included like god damn)
I'm content at this point. Although everything you mentioned (besides the helmet holes, i like em but that's just me) would make the set slightly better, but none of them are really a game changer. According to my current standards for Lego, this is the best possible outcome i was expecting for this set.
And that’s why it’s a 8.5-9/10 set and not 10/10 to me. None of this is make or break and I never say it is. Current LEGO standards (low) allow stuff like this to happen.
1. Agree - This probably should have been a crab droid 2. Disagree - I don’t think they needed to do that. For the expensive price I can see a case, but since there is nothing like an obiwan and that lizard thing, I’d disagree 3. Disagree - this is where I am more certain in my disagreement. The only case I can see for them doing no holes is on an 18+ set, geared towards adults who want to display with no holes in the helmet. This set is not 18+, this is geared at non-adult audiences who will more than likely want to prioritize customization and play with the holes in a helmet, versus worrying about the holes so small to where you have to put them within a foot of your eyes to see clearly, detracting from the accuracy of the helmet 4. Agree - price of the set should warrant either a swap for, or addition of, a SBD or two 5. Agree - not as much of an expert on box art, but reasoning is great and I agree
I fee like Lego should of added the palpatine hologram because an average fan would care more about that than the box art the are goinging to throw away being accurate. I also assume the might already have super battle droids in plan for the future because Lego plans the sets in advance.
@@pallavparmar9818 yea that’s also true. I guess I’m kind of split on that one. I’d like it if they included it, but personally wouldn’t be too disappointed that they didn’t
Counter points to your arguments: 1. Why is the other clones having helmet holes such a bad thing? It allows for customization because not every clone looks identical that makes no sense to use the holes fir just one helmet. You don't complain about open holes on Mandalorian minifigures. 2. The palpatine hologram isn't completely necessary considering Obi Wan isn't even in this set, there is no one to execute order 66 on.
Sure, it isn't "necessary" but it would be a nice "head-nod" to the prequel films. It makes way more sense to include the hologram here than it did in Vader's Castle, or even the First Order SD.
There are no accessories in this set to customize these clones. In sets like the mandalorian battle pack, accessories were included. Thats why he doesn't dislike the holes in the madalorian helmets, but does dislike the holes in these clone helmets.
@@bruced09 true, I just repeated the point he had made in one of his recent videos why he dislikes the holes in these clonehelmets. But I agree, there are enough sets were you have some extra accessoires to customize the clones in the at te.
Bro, i get what u tryna say but u aint ever satisfied im sorry, it gets annoying, you got what u wanted w phase 2 cody and a lot of other 212th clones. And you still complaining🤦🏻♂️
Customers are paying a lot of movie for a product. And they should get the best possible product for their money. We should receive our money’s worth. The AT-TE is a good set. But it’s not worth $140 unfortunately.
For the first time since April, I finally got the Republic Fighter Tank. It wasn’t possible to find until now for me. Not bad but I’m hyped even more for this set now.
I don’t really think the 212th helmets with the holes look that bad, most of this video is just nit picking but I don’t mind since you’re at least uploading again 😂
I think the reason for Lego not including a hologram piece is because it’s not trying to depict the Order 66 scene, but it’s trying to create an Utapau battle set or something like that. But had they included Kenobi and a Varactyl, and a large climbable stone wall, then this would have been the perfect opportunity for that. And even then, if you have any of the sets that come with that exact piece, which I’m sure you do, you could easily take that piece from that set, and attach it to Cody.
my main complaint with Lego star wars is that other themes like Harry Potter get new molds seemingly left and right whereas its rare for Lego star wars to get new molds that are almost necessary. Also the pricing. Some sets we're getting a just straight up rip-offs, like the general grievous starfighter.
also, and I can't stress this enough, WAIST CAPES!! There are so many characters in the last few years that really needed them. Like the snow troopers, and some of the bad batch squad. The printed on ones look so bad
Still the best looking walker. I love how they did the joints. I have no complaints with this set to be honest. The only thing to me is the crab droid should be included, but again, I don't care that much because this is for the AT-TE and Clones, which they did and for that I'm shocked.
I completely understand where you’re coming from. For me, the equivalent of this is the Marvel CMF. It was great, and something I’ve wanted forever, and yet some of the decisions made were so bad, even though they could’ve been easily changed
Ya as a DC fan Dc minifigure series is revealed and stargirl, generic superman, bumble bee, mr miracle, metaphoro, and cheetah... who the hell wanted ANY of these
@@Rivers_Cuomo_From_Weezer I agree. I feel like the DC and Marvel series’s both had big issues. The DC CMF just had a bad selection(It obviously should’ve come with Zatanna and Doctor Fate) and the Marvel CMF was so inaccurate and cheap with the details(two of the characters had no leg printing, and two others reused their face prints from sets)
I don’t care what anyone says you are impossible to please hologram was the only argument that made sense And the clone wars box art is practically the same since the last arc of clone wars took place DURING REVENGE OF THE SITH
It’s more complex than that but yea, P2 clones either needed holes or P2 Cody needed a specific mould for the visor. The problem isn’t that they added holes full stop. It’s that they are actively producing 2 helmet versions but not using them properly. The holes are in a bad spot of the helmet that I think looks bad when not in use. Hence Cody good, 212th bad with holes.
This is why I love mega construct, they listen to there community and buyers. They try to do what the buyers want and like. And make things we like to.
5:34 They made a custom Leia hologram for the Obi-Wan's hut set, and that was a $30 set. I think they should have been able to afford to put one in. Plus, they could have just used the Palpatine hologram mold from the Star Destroyer
it's not always lego's fault, it's Disney that we should since lego needs their approval for figures and designs. Also, I would add two airborne troopers as well to this set.
I agree with most of his opinions but I think the helmet holes aren’t that bad especially because of customs I think it’s a huge upside! But if you hate them just put a visor on 😂
List of MnR’s Complaints 1) 4:05 | Inaccurate because the set needs a crab droid not a spider droid 2) 5:21 | Cody needs palpy hologram for set accuracy 3) 6:35 | Selective clone helmet molds, P2 Cody should have the side holes, the rest should not 4) 9:16 | Set needs Super battle droid to be more accurate 5) 10:00 | Inaccurate box art I love you man, the work you do and the content you put out, the top lego channel I watch, but…come on now. Be a little flexible here.
Bro are you for real? Come back to it and watch it later if it makes you so angry. Longer videos means more entertainment for people who are bored. This is useful info you put down but like jeez the videos time-length being shorter really matters that much to you?
I am flexible. I like the set and plan to buy at least 3. Can I not do that while having legitimate criticisms of it? It could have been perfect and it just isn’t.
I agree with all of this stuff, but I'll be the first to admit that it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I think they moved the holes to make the visor pieces line up better with the face plate printing on the helmets, but I agree it looks ugly when not in use. The Palpatine hologram piece would have been great, but, as I already have one, I don't really care that much. The lack of crab droid bothers me a lot because this is just Lego being too lazy to design a new crab droid model and instead just tweaking older spider droid models. I also don't even think the spider droid model is very good anyway because the ball socket design for the head doesn't look right at all. I wish they'd make a version of the 4/4 dome piece with a stud on top, so the could use that and still have the antenna on top of the head. Still much more good than bad and I'm just really happy to see a big prequel set because it feels like ages since we had a big non UCS one.
MandR, I think we all see your points for every missed aspect of this set. The only problem is, Lego will never go this far to make it perfect. When us fans ask for an AT-TE, they listened and we got it. The stopping point for Lego is having an AT-TE, not having a good one, they don’t care, people will still buy this set, a lot. It doesn’t affect Lego whatsoever if it’s not a perfect set, so for those reasons it will never be perfect.
I do think the holes on all helmets is a good idea. It returns the customization element to Lego Star Wars clones. Now, if they do not include any antennas, visors, or binoculars (its about time we got a binocs helmet attachment) in the set, I think that would be a problem.
I didn’t say it wasn’t. That’s not a defense for a MULTI BILLION dollar company who’s slogan is “only the best is good enough” to not get it right though.
I know they should've had the old helmet mold without holes but the mandolorian has holes in his helmet and you never complain about the look for him( or any other mandolorians that don't have accessories in their helmet)
The problem aren't the holes because they are there, the holes are just sticking out to much out of the helmet which is not the case with the mandalorians!
Everyone wanted holes in the clone helmets and lego added them Complaining about something the entire community wanted feels weird And yes i know it's about accuracy but having these holes forever on every clone will make them way more customizable to build your own personalized clone army
@@bomb1243 almost the entire fanbase because the holes allow you to put accesories on the helmet like rangefinders or visors For some reason they didn't do that when the phase 2 helmet came out (phase 1 helmets wich where realesed earlier than the phase 2 ones have holes) so a lot of people wanted that feature on the phase 2 helmets too
@@bedrock_breaker Okay cool that would be a valid argument if LEGO gave more visors with the actual set for them to wear. But they didn’t. Plus I have never seen a 212th soldier with a visor BESIDES Cody. It’s just not accurate rather people wanna customize the clones or not.
Something that I am wondering is why did they change the droid blasters to Gun Metal shiny color? Black would have been just fine as in years previous. The odd thing too is that they have been keeping it somewhat consistent as well through the newer sets, with droids usually carrying these shiny blasters now.
100% agree. Lego clearly can do these things. I mean for a set this big Lego could’ve left probably just a few spare parts to make a crab droid it’s that simple but no Lego seriously just has to leave it’s community with inaccurate B- sets instead of making that last bit of effort and seriously those helmet holes are ridiculous, but clearly this is all we can expect out of Lego nowadays.
I’m really sad that it’s never gonna be on sale due to giant lego fans buying them out and not leaving any for kids who want to play, as I’m not a huge collector and want the set to play and display. Unfortunate how the lego community won’t give smaller people a chance because of their “army building”
I know what you mean, it should be 1 maybe 2 per person at least for the release, I’m gonna be staying up at midnight to try my best to snag ONE for myself, I’m just hoping I can get one before the scalpers buy like 5 at once to sell on for more money on eBay, I’m not greedy I just want one of these things for myself for my small clone army, I had a hard time getting A fighter tank and that little clone command station because scalpers snagged the lot of them
Same, and I live in Australia so everything is more expensive and the collectors have a better chance of getting the set, and that do not supply enough to cater for the demand for clone sets. And this AT-TE will be $230, where as in America it is $140 and the conversion is about $200.
@@CT-7567- Yh I do think buying multiple of them before people can get one for themselves and making those people miss out on a set they really wanted is wrong, we as a Lego community should be helping each other out considering how wanted this set is and once everyone has got one, then it’s ok to buy multiple
For the Palpatine hologram, there’s a piece in the 2020 Obi Wans hut that could be used for Palpatine. Yes it’s not the absolute best mold as I think the Leia buns are on the piece, but it could still be used for Cody
I honestly prefer having having the clone wars box art, since when I think of an AT-TE, Commander Cody, the 212th, etc., I think the the clone wars first rather than episode three, plus I think it just looks better and compliments the set better.
My biggest issue is they didn’t make a new mold for the jetpack, but instead printed it. They were willing to make new molds for Cad Bane, and the Inquisitors (which are very nice) but the most wanted minifigure by fans in so long, they didn’t add the jetpack to be detachable.
They’ve been printing jet packs for a while on clones. It allows them to fit in seats, we all expected that, way different from more crucial molds on these other figures
@@FGxBeaver Which other clones have they? I don’t remember. All I know is they did it for the 501st troopers, and if you want to sit you can always remove it. And I’d argue that the Inquisitor molds aren’t crucial
@@Ginkrepeerc_ try the inquisitors without the mold. Significantly worse, and far from accurate, code looks mostly the same with or without the jet pack. It isn’t crucial to the look of his whole character unlike the inquisitors, it’s an accessory and it’s till printed. Not to mention if you take it off the inquisitors they are straight downgrades from previous models. I’d argue the backpacks were more significant in the bad batch figures and those were all printed, much more of a letdown than Cody but they were still printed. Although I’d argue it was still ok, I think they’ve established they will print backpacks on clones.
I will admit I wanted more from the set but I love it just for being a at-te and have fun with it I absolutely adore this. Set for my own values also just wanted to say thank you for reading and I hope you have a nice day
I agree with everything you said. But we still have to be cautious not to criticise too much because Lego gets constructive feedback and hatred mixed up in the reaction to a set. Lego has to realise that these improvements are for the best. But They might get cold feel and not do another set like this and fall to the dark side once again of designing a Lego set.
I can’t lie, I don’t have any sets made from before 2020. The oldest one that I own was the senate trooper battle pack and it was also the first one I got. But because of this, I never got any previous ATTE’s and this looks like one of the best sets that I’ve ever seen. I’m super excited to get it. I used to say, “ima buy 4 of ‘em” but now I’ll probably just get two of them. This is just because I like to buy even numbers of sets.
Imo I still think it’s a great set despite some of the dumb things. I will never care about box art ( I know you said it’s not super important ) but I’ve have never cared about the box because I like the sets more obviously. I do think you’re right about the crab droid though, it is a simple thing they could’ve added in the set but didn’t, but if they did do it they could have made it 5 to 10 dollars more for legos sake lol. I think overall it is a 10/10 set for me, but I also think you make very good point’s.
The continued exclusion of the B2 Super Battle Droids is unfortunate but not a fault of this set in particular. The version they used up until the mid 2010's was notoriously prone to breaking. Hopefully they get around to making a new and improved version for future sets.
I think us as fans of star wars lego we should just be grateful we get things we ask for. It may not be exactly what we want but obviously designers can't please every single fan. As a DC fan we get to many batman sets and nothing when we ask, star wars after a long time gets what they ask for, while we don't get anything.
I feel like in regards to the hologram of palpatine, that if anyone has any extras and decides to buy the set that it would be an easy fix, and then that's that.
@@MandRproductions Yeah but it says 9+ on the box, I understand and desire accuracy too but this is play set and kids are goging to care more about play options than customization. I can see it both ways.
Alternatively, instead of using the Spider Droid or Crab Droid, Lego could've made another smaller Octuptarra (Combat) Tri-Droid, as there were several of them in the Battle of Utapau in Revenge of the Sith (and having a not ugly version of the Octuptarra Tri-Droid in Lego would be great), and as it's one of the more iconic Separatist droid types in Star Wars, it'd be cool to have more representation for it in Lego. However, I kinda disagree (mostly) with the helmet hole take. I agree that their placement is ugly (they'd look much better on the weird ear bits of the helm instead of that weird back groove), but for play features they're great, especially if they have an accessory pack/spare Cody visor. One thing kids and most CT fans love is customization. Speaking of the visor though, I hate that they're still using the -ugly- old visor mold from the TCW sets from like 2010. I feel like it's high time they redesign it to make it more accurate with clone visors in canon (less bulky and square). Even Phase 1 visors canonically are much smaller and more curved than this old Lego accessory. Also, a helmet-mounted macrobinocular accessory would be nice for clones(especially because they went through the effort to model them in the Skywalker Saga game). Also the boxart colors are frustrating lmao, I feel you there.
I agree on many of these points , but I think what we have now is a solid set with some desirable aspects to it. I personally hope we see Cody in a cheaper set due to the fact I'm on a budget this year and probably will be going forwards.
I agree with all of this, I can already tell that the holes in the helmets is going to trigger me. I also think that they should have included ONE airborne trooper because those were iconic parts of the scenes too.
( not a popular opinion ) I honestly think the holes are a great addition but I do agree with the inconsistency with the other clone sets and what they could do is remove the little nub under the hole edit : holy dang I missed the whole point
I actually think this set is amazing NOT PERFECT but certain things like the spider droid I completely agree especially with lego’s company motto but certain things like the holes in the helmets I don’t have a problem with but I agree they could have just used the mold without holes. I agree that the palpatine hologram should have been there but it isn’t a deal breaker but it’s still sad that it isn’t in the set
I am in agree with pretty much all of your points on this. Everything that people want Lego to do is very realistic and doable, but “only the best is good enough “ right.
I really only have two minor complaints to add on: the shooters on the cannon should be able to rotate up and down with the cannon or just in general, for better play. The last 2 did it. Second complaint is the ammo for the shooter should be trans blue instead of green
the helmet holes are not a bad thing man, they allow us to use other accessories with the clones. idk why you think they are so bad here when they have been on many past clone helmets and added that functionality without people complaining. I think they're great. I do REALLY wish we had gotten a crab droid though.
Why they are bad here: they are in the wrong spot and look ugly when not being used. I agree it’s GREAT for customization (and by that I mean the two pieces LEGO has you can attatch). I wouldn’t care if the holes weren’t just drilled in the random spot they are in.
@@MandRproductions Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll have to see how the attachments line up with the helmet once I get my hands on this set, at a glance to me they look like they are in close to the spot you'd want them to be in for the visor height but I could be wrong on that. I do agree that they are uglier when not in use but personally I'd rather have the customization I suppose.
I also agree completely with all of your other points in this video. and for the record I am glad you have been persistent in general about encouraging lego to always be better and more accurate, I think you are making a big difference, so thank you for your hard work on this stuff. I think I was a bit too cynical in my parent comment here lol.
7:11 Well, for Phase 2 Cody the positioning of the visor on his helmet is accurate to the shows, comics, and movies since it didn’t actually go onto the circles of the sides of the helmet; instead resting just above it. That’s gonna be the case with any Phase 2 clone using that visor piece (especially for LEGO since where those circles are placed on the helmet, if you have the holes on the helmet there and you place a visor on it like that, it’s gonna end up covering up the printed visor on the helmet). Now, when it comes to the antennas for the Phase 2 Clones, those were attached to the circles on the helmets. So yeah, I can see why holes on the circles should be required there in that case. But since this is LEGO, so long as they can use attachments on the helmets, they’re not gonna feel the need to change the positioning of the holes.
1:49 that's... honestly shocking. I do agree that clone sets SHOULD have more clones than anything else; however I think it would also be nice to maybe get a new droid focused set on occasion. Could maybe stop putting droids all together in clone sets
They gotta put droids in these sets to create SOME complete package of playability for kids that can't get multiple sets. What needs to be done is more sets like mace windu's starfighter... That was one of the most complete SW sets ever.
@@georgieporgie10 I understand that and it seems to be how things go nowadays. I think I'm just a bit old fashioned because years ago they did have more droid sets and clone sets that were mostly just only clones or only droids. I do suppose the Clone Wars TV show airing around that time helped that however and it's probably unheard of now
Something i dont like about lego is that they make a bunch of clone sets but never any separatist sets to go against the clones (besides that one aat set)
I’m pretty sure the AT-TE fires blue lasers, but LEGO gives us green for the stud shooter studs, as the mass driver cannon fires blue as seen during order 66 ON UTAPAU, THE SAME PLANET THIS SET IS BASED ON, come on LEGO, it’s not that hard. I feel like people will bring up the smaller secondary guns, but I’m pretty sure those are blue as well.
Actually I quite like having more than just one helmet with holes in a set. It’s more so I can make custom clone commander/captains but still it is good to make customs
Clearly states these are his own thoughts and opinions
Many of the people commenting: complete meltdown because they have their own opinions different than his...😂
Good argument, However L+ratio
@@antonn.mp4 -🤓
So true Lol
for real though, i wanna see memes of LEGO getting confused with spiders and crabs
@Sith Master Jar Jar Binks maybe but me personally to the people who will just agree with him no matter what says more about them than him. That they need people to tell them what to think because they are incapable of thinking for themselves or forming their own opinions.
For starters, I think we have to give credit where it's due. While the SW line has had a lot of issues with their set designs and choices, this set does demonstrate specific things that the community has been asking for: 1.) phase 2 Commander Cody, 2.) a lot of clones in a clone-related set, 3.) continued printing on the hip piece (although why the gunner doesn't get that is beyond me), 4.) for a troop carrying vehicle to actually have the space to carry troops. These are specific things that make me appreciate that there is some progress. I do agree with all the things you mentioned that could have been added. Honestly, for an extra $10 I would've liked 2 crab droids, get rid of the spider droid and battle droids, 2 super battle droids, and a 212th airborne (if they wanted to faithfully recreate those movie scenes). But again, to me this set demonstrates more of how Lego is beginning to listen more to the community rather than it demonstrating how they don't.
I think it's because the p1 plain clone minifig pack has those same legs and also I'm hoping wee see a phase 2 regular clone set in 2023 so that explains the reuse of legs and why it doesn't have a hip print
More over, the airborne trooper used in grievous starfighter would fit great here, and that figure actually has hip printing! Crazy why they didn't just chuck him in here but hey Lego is Lego after all
This man wrote a 2 full paragraph
I mean yeah this is A start to making better products and actually listening to the demand of their own market and fanbase but man is there still ways to go.
@@autumnridge5541 oh well
I really think the holes in the helmets just add more customization options. Some clones wore flashlights and antenna things so I think they are ok. But I agree a crab droid would have been nice to see
Except it doesn’t add more customization options. The new holes are way too high up for antennas to look good on the helmet. So we’ve now essentially got holes that are useless for anything other than a visor, and that make the helmets look worse when they’re empty. It would not have been hard for LEGO to put the holes in the right place and just make a new visor mold.
@@TheGW923 that's your opinion
@@TheGW923 have you put an antenna in the new helmets? I understand it looks like it may be too high up, but it may be in the same spot as phase 1 or mando helmets. I suggest making this call once we actually see an antenna in the new helmets before making a judgement.
@@benoberle9312 No it’s actually pretty objective. If you look at an actual clone helmet, antennas are supposed to attach lower down. LEGO put the hole in the wrong spot.
@@cyberdragon5247 I have not personally put an antenna in, but the hole is really high up on the helmet. It is definitely not anywhere close to the right spot. I have an image that makes this very clear, but can’t link it here.
The point where antennas are supposed to attach on Phase 2 helmets is the circle thing LEGO already had on the previous mold. Instead of replacing that circle with the hole, they put the hole above the circle without removing it.
Ryan's the type of kid who will get the specific flavor of ice cream he asked for but then refuses to eat it because they didn't put sprinkles on it
YO THATS ACTUALLY FUNNY AS CRAP
Facts
So true
🤣 facts
Facs
I only really have one major counterpoint and that's the helmet holes.
I think the Phase 2 helmet in general should have holes in the same way that the Mandalorian helmet does. It'd be ideal to have every clone from now on have the 'new' helmet with the holes, and they can phase out the older one (which is probably what they're doing). The thing is with the 187th Troopers and Hunter is that they are already in production. You could use the argument of 'but this clone doesn't have holes' into infinity until you reach a point where there's no clones for sale. I think we should celebrate them implementing the change going forward instead of criticizing the change for not happening sooner (although it definitely should've, that's a criticism for 2013 LEGO not 2022 LEGO).
In a perfect world, LEGO changes the mold for every clone on the market to just abruptly cut out the (hopefully now considered) old phase 2 helmet. I guess that's just too much effort for them for the few groups/people who'd notice and care. I don't think this is the biggest sin they've made here.
The biggest problem is that the hole should've been done better. The fact the helmet has the smaller round shape directly under the hole looks ridiculous and as though they just took the helmets and drilled another hole in vaguely the right place. The new hole would be fine on it's own, but they should've shifted the old spot up a bit so that the hole looks like a part of the actual helmet (like with the mandalorian ones) or just flattened that area altogether
I would be very ok with every clone having holes if they weren’t in the eyesore position they’re in now.
Finally someone with some sense. I completely agree with everything you said 110%
I agree as well if they weren’t so weird looking
@@MandRproductions It's sad that we don't get clones as much as we used to...but honestly...unless LEGO was going to favor demand over current relevance in trends in the non-LEGO community...then we can't reasonably expect them to do this to the extent it was before. 2008-2014 was the Clone Wars era when the Clone Wars was airing, so it was a trend among the general population and SW fans so they could justify making tons of sets and that's why it got saturated with Clone sets. But with the Sequels and these new Disney+ shows... it's just not justified anymore. It's a bygone era that we have to somewhat cope with. The same applies to the 1999-2005 waves, Star Wars was born in the prequel era of pop culture and now we're moving away from that. Now that's not justification for LEGO to eradicate Clones, because the demand is clearly there. It's not like they don't make half the sets OT sets and they just ignore the other major trilogy people care about. Which is clearly wrong. Part of this is that we had significantly fewer Star Wars sets released for these last few years than we were used to. TL;DR the Clone Wars era is a bygone era in Star Wars, and the LEGO community must adapt although definitely still demand these clones.
@@gandalfthegrey2592 we are seeing a rise in clone set tbh. You'll never have 2009 or 2008 waves of clone wars sets.
Genuinely completely disagree - starting to feel like we’re in “impossible to please” territory. The droid complaint is silly, the palpatine hologram was expected by nobody, the helmets are an actual response to criticism from Lego - I mean this is a fantastic, 10/10 as it is. Let’s give them their flowers for once
no
but their modo is only the best is good enough and frankly I dont remember seeing a spider droid on utopau
He said at the start that it's a great set and there's nothing wrong with giving constructive feedback in order to get a better product in the future.
But the model of the republic fighter tank is just really really bad….
Finally someone I agree with
This is a complete coincidence but *technically* the Clone Wars hadn’t ended when Cody and the gang were on Utapau because General Grievous hadn’t been killed or the planet hadn’t been freed so on a technicality the box art isn’t inaccurate but 100% by coincidence
My take... If obi wan was in the set it would have the Skywalker saga box art. They put clones in a set and no other main figure so they put clone wars box art because it's the most fitting box art just going off of the figs
Me: "how nitpicky is this video gonna be?"
MandR: "yes"
Yep
5 things that should be accurate in a set based on ROTS. Crazy nitpicks though I’m sure to want just simple accuracy.
@@MandRproductions look i love your vids and mostly agree with your opinions but I dont think it is so bad that it doesn't have an emperor Palpatine hologram. And also lego is all about creativity so the holes on the helmets can help kids create their own clones and stories. I mean the phase 1 clone troopers all had holes on their helmets I didnt hear anyone complain about it.
@@MandRproductions who said it was a ucs set?????
@@MandRproductions also don’t make a big deal of literal helmet holes, for the love of god, it is a HOLE and your acting like it is the end of the world
MandR : sees a good set -
*desperately trying to find anything bad about the set to rant on*
Literally describes the whole Lego fanbase, maybe this is the reason why the Lego group are the way they are now
He said it was a good set, his criticisms are also fair
@@noahmaldonado5461You realise that this is his favourite AT-TE.
I’ve never owned an AT-TE so I’m just excited to own one I like it a lot
Same I really hope they aren't hard to get because I won't be able to get it until 2 weeks after it comes out
@@definitelynot_tfol36 yeah the old ones are so expensive as much as I want them, so I’m just really excited to have one I hope we can get one too haha
Agreed. I missed out on the 2013 version, but I’m ecstatic to get the new one for my birthday
We should definitely strive for better in SW sets, but I kinda disagree on the helmet hole one. I get that it wasn't integrated very well, but I'd rather take the visual hit if it means being able to customize more clones. What if someone does want to add an antenna or visor to the 212th troopers, or gunner? A shame they didn't adjust the mold to make it look better, but I still think every P2 Clone should be given the new helmet going forwards
i grew up with holes in the clone trooper helmets so it doesn’t really bother me that much, i just wish it lined up with the circle
It probably would’ve been better if they had moved the first “hole” up on the helmet instead of leaving it and then adding a second one. they could’ve tried to like print on the visor or something so it’s good that they did this so you can customize clones. If you really hate them clone army customs sells just helmets
Yeah clone troppers without customization is just weird
Being able to personalise the clones and maybe make your own legions is what makes lego lego
@@Fridgemasters the holes isn’t the problem like he said he says “bad” holes
As in theyre in the wrong place. Granted if they were lower and on the actual dot then Cody’s visor would be covered up. But then that brings up the argument of well why did you make a bad/ awkward helmet design haha
While I understand the customization part that's also the problem. Most of the time lego doesn't include such customizations such as antennas and visors
Star wars fans try to enjoy Star wars content challenge (Impossible)
I personally don't find an issue with all clones having the holes in the helmet, as every phase 1 clone does, and this gives us uniformity.
The problem isn't the holes, it's the placement. They are why higher on the figure then they should be.
@@Mooshie500 here's the thing if they were lower it would look extremely off.
@@charlie2023 no it wouldn't, the peg is already there why did they make a new one
@@Mooshie500 I didn't mean look werid I'm talking about attachments. Any lower and cody won't be able to see
@@charlie2023 instead they could have made a new visor mold
LEGO can make a 11/10 set and mandr will still complain lol
Ryan: a set that I very much like
Also ryan in the title: this set sucks
It’s a RUclipsrs RUclips title. If you catch my drift.
@@MandRproductions gotcha
Other youtubers be like: tHIS sEt SucKs iT SHoULd HavE 2o cLOnE trO0pErs
just like Lego with squeezing us for our money he also needs money to live so a title like this generates more views and he gets more money and many times during the video he demonstrated he enjoys the set
Me personally, I would have liked a Republic gunship included with 100 clones….
Preposterous idea. Where do I sign up?
oh come on that's such a low number. minifig scale Venator-class star destroyer with whole crew compliment and a Munificent-class star frigate with its whole crew compliment to fight each other
@@dragon_tamerak803 wallets hate this set idea
@@falloutgamer347 whats a few million dollars down the drain anyway
@@dragon_tamerak803 well, you only live once
Very good points. I still love the walker though. We can never have too many at te sets. I'm hoping LEGO will finally give the CIS as much love as they do with the republic. Would be nice to see some CIS ships and the larger droids like the octuptarra droid.
me still waiting for a SPHA-T Self-Propelled Heavy Artillery Turbolaser
I think LEGO is going to release at least 1 CIS set in next year’s jan wave to provide opposition to either the AT TE or republic fighter tank.
I think it will most likely be a homing spider droid or a hail fire droid.
Ok but, the phase two Cody looks good,the helmet holes are actually pretty accurate to Cody. And I still think the holes in the helmets aren't the worst things Lego have produced
I thought you adored this set!
That’s what I thought too
Yeah
Watch the video, not the title.
@@MandRproductions gotcha, thanks
@@YourFriendAsh but i still understand where he’s coming from with certain aspects
my brother in christ
clone trooper accessory's are included as extra pieces
(Edit: It has now been CONFIRMED that extra attachments are included like god damn)
You know how long have I been waiting for a Lego Crab droid? I don't get why they refuse to make us happier
I'm content at this point. Although everything you mentioned (besides the helmet holes, i like em but that's just me) would make the set slightly better, but none of them are really a game changer. According to my current standards for Lego, this is the best possible outcome i was expecting for this set.
Completely agree
And that’s why it’s a 8.5-9/10 set and not 10/10 to me. None of this is make or break and I never say it is. Current LEGO standards (low) allow stuff like this to happen.
1. Agree - This probably should have been a crab droid
2. Disagree - I don’t think they needed to do that. For the expensive price I can see a case, but since there is nothing like an obiwan and that lizard thing, I’d disagree
3. Disagree - this is where I am more certain in my disagreement. The only case I can see for them doing no holes is on an 18+ set, geared towards adults who want to display with no holes in the helmet. This set is not 18+, this is geared at non-adult audiences who will more than likely want to prioritize customization and play with the holes in a helmet, versus worrying about the holes so small to where you have to put them within a foot of your eyes to see clearly, detracting from the accuracy of the helmet
4. Agree - price of the set should warrant either a swap for, or addition of, a SBD or two
5. Agree - not as much of an expert on box art, but reasoning is great and I agree
I fee like Lego should of added the palpatine hologram because an average fan would care more about that than the box art the are goinging to throw away being accurate. I also assume the might already have super battle droids in plan for the future because Lego plans the sets in advance.
@@pallavparmar9818 yea that’s also true. I guess I’m kind of split on that one. I’d like it if they included it, but personally wouldn’t be too disappointed that they didn’t
Counter points to your arguments:
1. Why is the other clones having helmet holes such a bad thing? It allows for customization because not every clone looks identical that makes no sense to use the holes fir just one helmet. You don't complain about open holes on Mandalorian minifigures.
2. The palpatine hologram isn't completely necessary considering Obi Wan isn't even in this set, there is no one to execute order 66 on.
Sure, it isn't "necessary" but it would be a nice "head-nod" to the prequel films. It makes way more sense to include the hologram here than it did in Vader's Castle, or even the First Order SD.
U definitely agree
There are no accessories in this set to customize these clones. In sets like the mandalorian battle pack, accessories were included. Thats why he doesn't dislike the holes in the madalorian helmets, but does dislike the holes in these clone helmets.
@@bendeliaert2400 there’s usually multiple accessories if they need any. In the 20th anny slave 1 you got a bunch despite only needing one for Boba.
@@bruced09 true, I just repeated the point he had made in one of his recent videos why he dislikes the holes in these clonehelmets. But I agree, there are enough sets were you have some extra accessoires to customize the clones in the at te.
Bro, i get what u tryna say but u aint ever satisfied im sorry, it gets annoying, you got what u wanted w phase 2 cody and a lot of other 212th clones. And you still complaining🤦🏻♂️
I have genuine complaints. And rationale for them, explained thoroughly in the video. I’m a paying customer just like you, voicing my opinion.
Aiden i agree
Customers are paying a lot of movie for a product. And they should get the best possible product for their money.
We should receive our money’s worth. The AT-TE is a good set. But it’s not worth $140 unfortunately.
There has not even been enough time for you to completely watch the video
I disagree I feel like lego always dose something wrong with prequel sets on purpose
For the first time since April, I finally got the Republic Fighter Tank. It wasn’t possible to find until now for me. Not bad but I’m hyped even more for this set now.
@Yoda if I were to guess it’s the clones included, I know that’s a huge reason why I bought mine
I don’t really think the 212th helmets with the holes look that bad, most of this video is just nit picking but I don’t mind since you’re at least uploading again 😂
Same, I really like this set.
The only real issue is the helmet misprint
I think the reason for Lego not including a hologram piece is because it’s not trying to depict the Order 66 scene, but it’s trying to create an Utapau battle set or something like that.
But had they included Kenobi and a Varactyl, and a large climbable stone wall, then this would have been the perfect opportunity for that.
And even then, if you have any of the sets that come with that exact piece, which I’m sure you do, you could easily take that piece from that set, and attach it to Cody.
That would have been cool instead of the spider droid if they made it like 10 bucks more
my main complaint with Lego star wars is that other themes like Harry Potter get new molds seemingly left and right whereas its rare for Lego star wars to get new molds that are almost necessary. Also the pricing. Some sets we're getting a just straight up rip-offs, like the general grievous starfighter.
also, and I can't stress this enough, WAIST CAPES!! There are so many characters in the last few years that really needed them. Like the snow troopers, and some of the bad batch squad. The printed on ones look so bad
@@tinman3251 I so have to agree with this
It was incredibly overpriced, but it is a damn good set
Still the best looking walker. I love how they did the joints. I have no complaints with this set to be honest. The only thing to me is the crab droid should be included, but again, I don't care that much because this is for the AT-TE and Clones, which they did and for that I'm shocked.
We gotten a Palapatien hologram mold in Darth Vaders castle! I think that would have worked perfectly, such a great mold
Also in the 2014 imperial star destroyer and the 2017 first order star destroyer
What a beautiful essay you wrote at 3:00 Ryan! I’m sure the teacher will love it!
I completely understand where you’re coming from. For me, the equivalent of this is the Marvel CMF. It was great, and something I’ve wanted forever, and yet some of the decisions made were so bad, even though they could’ve been easily changed
Ya as a DC fan
Dc minifigure series is revealed and stargirl, generic superman, bumble bee, mr miracle, metaphoro, and cheetah... who the hell wanted ANY of these
@@Rivers_Cuomo_From_Weezer I agree. I feel like the DC and Marvel series’s both had big issues. The DC CMF just had a bad selection(It obviously should’ve come with Zatanna and Doctor Fate) and the Marvel CMF was so inaccurate and cheap with the details(two of the characters had no leg printing, and two others reused their face prints from sets)
I don’t care what anyone says you are impossible to please hologram was the only argument that made sense
And the clone wars box art is practically the same since the last arc of clone wars took place DURING REVENGE OF THE SITH
Then why didn’t the 2020 Episode 3 sets use Clone Wars key art?
@@MandRproductions I would have to look at the set to see if the box art is relevant
Weren’t you complaining earlier that clones should have accessory holes?
It’s more complex than that but yea, P2 clones either needed holes or P2 Cody needed a specific mould for the visor. The problem isn’t that they added holes full stop. It’s that they are actively producing 2 helmet versions but not using them properly. The holes are in a bad spot of the helmet that I think looks bad when not in use. Hence Cody good, 212th bad with holes.
This is why I love mega construct, they listen to there community and buyers. They try to do what the buyers want and like. And make things we like to.
The holes in the helmet have to be placed where they are, otherwise visors on the helmet would sit too low and would cover the print
I agree, but then if we got a new visor like the clone army customs one it wouldn’t matter
Ryan when the set is revealed:
Omg we finally got the AT TE with P2 Cody! This is amazing
Ryan 5 minutes later: this sucks
ryan’s spiel about high school grades is how us asians think on a daily basis
5:34 They made a custom Leia hologram for the Obi-Wan's hut set, and that was a $30 set. I think they should have been able to afford to put one in. Plus, they could have just used the Palpatine hologram mold from the Star Destroyer
it's not always lego's fault, it's Disney that we should since lego needs their approval for figures and designs. Also, I would add two airborne troopers as well to this set.
without a doubt, one of the best lego star wars set we've gotten since the last few years.
I agree with most of his opinions but I think the helmet holes aren’t that bad especially because of customs I think it’s a huge upside! But if you hate them just put a visor on 😂
i honestly don’t like the look of the visors
@@tatekimmons5254 Ik it’s my opinion, I’ll take customization over one little detail
Ye but its not nice to have all your troops with visors
@@kuj2209 exactly
List of MnR’s Complaints
1) 4:05 | Inaccurate because the set needs a crab droid not a spider droid
2) 5:21 | Cody needs palpy hologram for set accuracy
3) 6:35 | Selective clone helmet molds, P2 Cody should have the side holes, the rest should not
4) 9:16 | Set needs Super battle droid to be more accurate
5) 10:00 | Inaccurate box art
I love you man, the work you do and the content you put out, the top lego channel I watch, but…come on now. Be a little flexible here.
Bro are you for real? Come back to it and watch it later if it makes you so angry. Longer videos means more entertainment for people who are bored. This is useful info you put down but like jeez the videos time-length being shorter really matters that much to you?
I am flexible. I like the set and plan to buy at least 3. Can I not do that while having legitimate criticisms of it? It could have been perfect and it just isn’t.
Are you okay Bomb? My mans just listing time stamps
@@bomb1243 bruh what? I ain’t angry about the length of the video, where you gettin that from?
@@MandRproductions understandable and fair argument, but at this point, is there a need to expect lego to subvert expectations.
I agree with all of this stuff, but I'll be the first to admit that it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I think they moved the holes to make the visor pieces line up better with the face plate printing on the helmets, but I agree it looks ugly when not in use. The Palpatine hologram piece would have been great, but, as I already have one, I don't really care that much. The lack of crab droid bothers me a lot because this is just Lego being too lazy to design a new crab droid model and instead just tweaking older spider droid models. I also don't even think the spider droid model is very good anyway because the ball socket design for the head doesn't look right at all. I wish they'd make a version of the 4/4 dome piece with a stud on top, so the could use that and still have the antenna on top of the head. Still much more good than bad and I'm just really happy to see a big prequel set because it feels like ages since we had a big non UCS one.
MandR, I think we all see your points for every missed aspect of this set. The only problem is, Lego will never go this far to make it perfect. When us fans ask for an AT-TE, they listened and we got it. The stopping point for Lego is having an AT-TE, not having a good one, they don’t care, people will still buy this set, a lot. It doesn’t affect Lego whatsoever if it’s not a perfect set, so for those reasons it will never be perfect.
I do think the holes on all helmets is a good idea. It returns the customization element to Lego Star Wars clones. Now, if they do not include any antennas, visors, or binoculars (its about time we got a binocs helmet attachment) in the set, I think that would be a problem.
*sees title of the video*
“Ohhhh, the comments are going to be spicy!”
*grabs popcorn*
Better than the Cad Bane starship
The Box Art discrepancy: First World Problem
I didn’t say it wasn’t. That’s not a defense for a MULTI BILLION dollar company who’s slogan is “only the best is good enough” to not get it right though.
@@MandRproductions I know. I get it. I see your point. 😄
I know they should've had the old helmet mold without holes but the mandolorian has holes in his helmet and you never complain about the look for him( or any other mandolorians that don't have accessories in their helmet)
The problem aren't the holes because they are there, the holes are just sticking out to much out of the helmet which is not the case with the mandalorians!
Also ALL of the phase 1 clones have holes in their helmets, that wasn't a big deal
The issue with the holes is their position. Not their existence.
Technoblade Never Dies
But Alex dose
Everyone wanted holes in the clone helmets and lego added them
Complaining about something the entire community wanted feels weird
And yes i know it's about accuracy but having these holes forever on every clone will make them way more customizable to build your own personalized clone army
Who wanted holes in the helmet dude
@@bomb1243 almost the entire fanbase because the holes allow you to put accesories on the helmet like rangefinders or visors
For some reason they didn't do that when the phase 2 helmet came out (phase 1 helmets wich where realesed earlier than the phase 2 ones have holes) so a lot of people wanted that feature on the phase 2 helmets too
@@bedrock_breaker Okay cool that would be a valid argument if LEGO gave more visors with the actual set for them to wear. But they didn’t. Plus I have never seen a 212th soldier with a visor BESIDES Cody. It’s just not accurate rather people wanna customize the clones or not.
@@bomb1243 ok but do the holes on the phase 1 helmets annoy you too? They are technicly not accurate
“Because why have something accurate when you can have something inaccurate” 😂🤣 that should be LEGO’s new slogan!
Something that I am wondering is why did they change the droid blasters to Gun Metal shiny color? Black would have been just fine as in years previous. The odd thing too is that they have been keeping it somewhat consistent as well through the newer sets, with droids usually carrying these shiny blasters now.
Droids have had gunmetal blasters for a few years now lol, more accurate and more variety in blasters, cant complain.
100% agree. Lego clearly can do these things. I mean for a set this big Lego could’ve left probably just a few spare parts to make a crab droid it’s that simple but no Lego seriously just has to leave it’s community with inaccurate B- sets instead of making that last bit of effort and seriously those helmet holes are ridiculous, but clearly this is all we can expect out of Lego nowadays.
I get why Ryan sees problems in the AT-TE, but I think the title of this video should be changed cause' the set doesn't suck entirely.
I’m really sad that it’s never gonna be on sale due to giant lego fans buying them out and not leaving any for kids who want to play, as I’m not a huge collector and want the set to play and display. Unfortunate how the lego community won’t give smaller people a chance because of their “army building”
I know what you mean, it should be 1 maybe 2 per person at least for the release, I’m gonna be staying up at midnight to try my best to snag ONE for myself, I’m just hoping I can get one before the scalpers buy like 5 at once to sell on for more money on eBay, I’m not greedy I just want one of these things for myself for my small clone army, I had a hard time getting A fighter tank and that little clone command station because scalpers snagged the lot of them
Same, and I live in Australia so everything is more expensive and the collectors have a better chance of getting the set, and that do not supply enough to cater for the demand for clone sets. And this AT-TE will be $230, where as in America it is $140 and the conversion is about $200.
@@CT-7567- Yh I do think buying multiple of them before people can get one for themselves and making those people miss out on a set they really wanted is wrong, we as a Lego community should be helping each other out considering how wanted this set is and once everyone has got one, then it’s ok to buy multiple
*_Sounds of Mandr buying like five hundred 501st battlepacks_*
@@godemperorofmemekind4170 Also, praise be the Man Emperor of Mankind
For the Palpatine hologram, there’s a piece in the 2020 Obi Wans hut that could be used for Palpatine. Yes it’s not the absolute best mold as I think the Leia buns are on the piece, but it could still be used for Cody
Bro there is literally a Palpatine hologram piece in the 2014 star destroyer
@@faze_thanos6098 also in the 2017 first order star destroyer, if you have either you could just give one of those to Cody if you want
@@faze_thanos6098 I forgot about that piece. My mind immediately went to the Leia hologram piece
That would be worse than no hologram (IMO) because it’s blatantly inaccurate and a Palpatine literally exists.
@@Chase1.9 he literally talks about it-
I honestly prefer having having the clone wars box art, since when I think of an AT-TE, Commander Cody, the 212th, etc., I think the the clone wars first rather than episode three, plus I think it just looks better and compliments the set better.
My biggest issue is they didn’t make a new mold for the jetpack, but instead printed it. They were willing to make new molds for Cad Bane, and the Inquisitors (which are very nice) but the most wanted minifigure by fans in so long, they didn’t add the jetpack to be detachable.
They’ve been printing jet packs for a while on clones. It allows them to fit in seats, we all expected that, way different from more crucial molds on these other figures
@@FGxBeaver Which other clones have they? I don’t remember. All I know is they did it for the 501st troopers, and if you want to sit you can always remove it.
And I’d argue that the Inquisitor molds aren’t crucial
@@Ginkrepeerc_ try the inquisitors without the mold. Significantly worse, and far from accurate, code looks mostly the same with or without the jet pack. It isn’t crucial to the look of his whole character unlike the inquisitors, it’s an accessory and it’s till printed. Not to mention if you take it off the inquisitors they are straight downgrades from previous models.
I’d argue the backpacks were more significant in the bad batch figures and those were all printed, much more of a letdown than Cody but they were still printed. Although I’d argue it was still ok, I think they’ve established they will print backpacks on clones.
I will admit I wanted more from the set but I love it just for being a at-te and have fun with it I absolutely adore this. Set for my own values also just wanted to say thank you for reading and I hope you have a nice day
Bro want accuracy in child block toy, it’s completely laughable
“Adults welcome”
@@MandRproductions the thing is lego is a toy for kids and not for Adults
I agree with everything you said. But we still have to be cautious not to criticise too much because Lego gets constructive feedback and hatred mixed up in the reaction to a set. Lego has to realise that these improvements are for the best.
But They might get cold feel and not do another set like this and fall to the dark side once again of designing a Lego set.
Gotta love how he says the AT TE sucks and then only complains about the figures and the box art
Ryan: I love the new atte
Also Ryan: I hate the new atte
do you guys even bother to watch the video
I think the set looks amazing. I haven't watched the vid yet should be good!
I can’t lie, I don’t have any sets made from before 2020. The oldest one that I own was the senate trooper battle pack and it was also the first one I got. But because of this, I never got any previous ATTE’s and this looks like one of the best sets that I’ve ever seen. I’m super excited to get it. I used to say, “ima buy 4 of ‘em” but now I’ll probably just get two of them. This is just because I like to buy even numbers of sets.
Imo I still think it’s a great set despite some of the dumb things. I will never care about box art ( I know you said it’s not super important ) but I’ve have never cared about the box because I like the sets more obviously. I do think you’re right about the crab droid though, it is a simple thing they could’ve added in the set but didn’t, but if they did do it they could have made it 5 to 10 dollars more for legos sake lol. I think overall it is a 10/10 set for me, but I also think you make very good point’s.
The continued exclusion of the B2 Super Battle Droids is unfortunate but not a fault of this set in particular. The version they used up until the mid 2010's was notoriously prone to breaking. Hopefully they get around to making a new and improved version for future sets.
I hope clones have the holes universally from now on honestly. A welcome change.
I hope they don’t because the holes are in a horrendous place that makes the helmet look ugly unless you have a visor in it.
@@TheGW923 Not really it’s about as unnoticeable as the stud on a mini figures head
@@xSuperFryx Nah it’s very noticeable. Have you seen physical pics of it and not just renders? It’s really ugly.
@@TheGW923 yeah looks about as fine as the Mandalorian helmets.
@@xSuperFryx Clearly you haven’t actually seen any pics of it then.
I was thinking people were going to go crazy about the set for phase 2 cody
Why is it harder to find a clone accessory pack than to buy a retired set on ebay
I think us as fans of star wars lego we should just be grateful we get things we ask for. It may not be exactly what we want but obviously designers can't please every single fan. As a DC fan we get to many batman sets and nothing when we ask, star wars after a long time gets what they ask for, while we don't get anything.
Just be happy.
I feel like in regards to the hologram of palpatine, that if anyone has any extras and decides to buy the set that it would be an easy fix, and then that's that.
If they had added the Palpatine hologram you would've complained that they didn't include Obi-Wan.
All Clone Helmets should have holes imo. I liked the customization options for the TCW era clones back in the day 😎🔥
I would love it if they weren’t an eyesore when not in use.
@@MandRproductions Yeah but it says 9+ on the box, I understand and desire accuracy too but this is play set and kids are goging to care more about play options than customization. I can see it both ways.
Good video by the way, I respect your opinions, but I do disagree
Can you make a video comparing all the Commander Codys? Also I agree it should have the Palpatine hologram.
Alternatively, instead of using the Spider Droid or Crab Droid, Lego could've made another smaller Octuptarra (Combat) Tri-Droid, as there were several of them in the Battle of Utapau in Revenge of the Sith (and having a not ugly version of the Octuptarra Tri-Droid in Lego would be great), and as it's one of the more iconic Separatist droid types in Star Wars, it'd be cool to have more representation for it in Lego.
However, I kinda disagree (mostly) with the helmet hole take. I agree that their placement is ugly (they'd look much better on the weird ear bits of the helm instead of that weird back groove), but for play features they're great, especially if they have an accessory pack/spare Cody visor. One thing kids and most CT fans love is customization. Speaking of the visor though, I hate that they're still using the -ugly- old visor mold from the TCW sets from like 2010.
I feel like it's high time they redesign it to make it more accurate with clone visors in canon (less bulky and square). Even Phase 1 visors canonically are much smaller and more curved than this old Lego accessory. Also, a helmet-mounted macrobinocular accessory would be nice for clones(especially because they went through the effort to model them in the Skywalker Saga game).
Also the boxart colors are frustrating lmao, I feel you there.
Lots of Clone troopers in one set) Ryan: :) Circles and stripes are inconstant) Ryan: TRIGGERED!!
I agree on many of these points , but I think what we have now is a solid set with some desirable aspects to it. I personally hope we see Cody in a cheaper set due to the fact I'm on a budget this year and probably will be going forwards.
I agree with all of this, I can already tell that the holes in the helmets is going to trigger me. I also think that they should have included ONE airborne trooper because those were iconic parts of the scenes too.
( not a popular opinion ) I honestly think the holes are a great addition but I do agree with the inconsistency with the other clone sets and what they could do is remove the little nub under the hole
edit : holy dang I missed the whole point
i love all the extra edited in things in the video. whoever did the editing needs a raise!
MatheoHans: “Thank you!”
Hey, that’s me.
@@MandRproductions then you did a hella good job!
RIP technoblade
Bro gets a bonus spider droid and complains
I actually think this set is amazing NOT PERFECT but certain things like the spider droid I completely agree especially with lego’s company motto but certain things like the holes in the helmets I don’t have a problem with but I agree they could have just used the mold without holes. I agree that the palpatine hologram should have been there but it isn’t a deal breaker but it’s still sad that it isn’t in the set
I actually quite like the set, very few complaints. But I agree with most your points. Sone things definitely could’ve been improved but I don’t mind
I like the set too. Said it up front. But you aren’t allowed to like something and criticize it according to my comments ahhahahah
@@MandRproductions oh believe me I like listening to everyone’s opinion I read a ton of comments on vids like this and jeeez man lol
I am in agree with pretty much all of your points on this. Everything that people want Lego to do is very realistic and doable, but “only the best is good enough “ right.
Exactly right about the hologram, plus they already have a mold for that because it’s in one of the Lego Star destroyers
I really only have two minor complaints to add on: the shooters on the cannon should be able to rotate up and down with the cannon or just in general, for better play. The last 2 did it. Second complaint is the ammo for the shooter should be trans blue instead of green
the helmet holes are not a bad thing man, they allow us to use other accessories with the clones. idk why you think they are so bad here when they have been on many past clone helmets and added that functionality without people complaining. I think they're great.
I do REALLY wish we had gotten a crab droid though.
Why they are bad here: they are in the wrong spot and look ugly when not being used.
I agree it’s GREAT for customization (and by that I mean the two pieces LEGO has you can attatch). I wouldn’t care if the holes weren’t just drilled in the random spot they are in.
@@MandRproductions Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll have to see how the attachments line up with the helmet once I get my hands on this set, at a glance to me they look like they are in close to the spot you'd want them to be in for the visor height but I could be wrong on that.
I do agree that they are uglier when not in use but personally I'd rather have the customization I suppose.
I also agree completely with all of your other points in this video. and for the record I am glad you have been persistent in general about encouraging lego to always be better and more accurate, I think you are making a big difference, so thank you for your hard work on this stuff. I think I was a bit too cynical in my parent comment here lol.
7:11 Well, for Phase 2 Cody the positioning of the visor on his helmet is accurate to the shows, comics, and movies since it didn’t actually go onto the circles of the sides of the helmet; instead resting just above it.
That’s gonna be the case with any Phase 2 clone using that visor piece (especially for LEGO since where those circles are placed on the helmet, if you have the holes on the helmet there and you place a visor on it like that, it’s gonna end up covering up the printed visor on the helmet).
Now, when it comes to the antennas for the Phase 2 Clones, those were attached to the circles on the helmets. So yeah, I can see why holes on the circles should be required there in that case. But since this is LEGO, so long as they can use attachments on the helmets, they’re not gonna feel the need to change the positioning of the holes.
5:04 can we all agree this man is an absolute badass
1:49 that's... honestly shocking. I do agree that clone sets SHOULD have more clones than anything else; however I think it would also be nice to maybe get a new droid focused set on occasion. Could maybe stop putting droids all together in clone sets
They gotta put droids in these sets to create SOME complete package of playability for kids that can't get multiple sets. What needs to be done is more sets like mace windu's starfighter... That was one of the most complete SW sets ever.
@@georgieporgie10 I understand that and it seems to be how things go nowadays. I think I'm just a bit old fashioned because years ago they did have more droid sets and clone sets that were mostly just only clones or only droids. I do suppose the Clone Wars TV show airing around that time helped that however and it's probably unheard of now
@@thisissostupidliterallywhy yeah plus they are doing more expensive sets now so can't really have two complete sides to any set these days.
pesonally, i dont mind helemt holes. they do look kinda wierd but i think its worth it to add attachments :)
Something i dont like about lego is that they make a bunch of clone sets but never any separatist sets to go against the clones (besides that one aat set)
And lately they’ve made empire sets without corresponding rebel sets
I’m pretty sure the AT-TE fires blue lasers, but LEGO gives us green for the stud shooter studs, as the mass driver cannon fires blue as seen during order 66 ON UTAPAU, THE SAME PLANET THIS SET IS BASED ON, come on LEGO, it’s not that hard. I feel like people will bring up the smaller secondary guns, but I’m pretty sure those are blue as well.
Actually I quite like having more than just one helmet with holes in a set. It’s more so I can make custom clone commander/captains but still it is good to make customs
Revenge is totally the best Star Wars movie, totally agree.