5:40 you're supposed to be able to screw the head off of the mic and then put the colored piece on the body and screw the head back on so it stays on permanently and yes also to color code each mic.
Couldn't agree more about your "A/B Comparison" statement. I heard differences in the mics, but they were all great imo. One thing that I have found over the years that we musicians tend to forget is that our audiences are NOT sound reinforcement techs. Our frustration with sound quality is really self inflicted and needlessly so. That is "if" it's not blatant in your face noise obviously. For that price and what it is and does I think it's fantastic! Great video and great find Scott, thank you!
Exactly! And once you get it in a mix and in a live setting and add eq/comp/etc you can’t really tell anyways. I really cannot stand A/B comparisons personally.
You have the highest quality videos I've seen so far on explaining wireless microphone systems, very helpful for a total beginner like me. RUclips is so amazing. Thanks for all your videos
@@ScottUhlMusic Hey scott - recently bought this and it works great but it sometimes gets interference and the mic cuts in and out. Do you have any tips on possible reasons this could be happening and how to fix it? Connecting it to a Bose S1 Pro PA System outdoors.
@@Yopperpo I would change the channels on the mics. How many are you using at once? If you are just using the 4 mics you should almost always be fine... but just remember that they are cheaper mics and that's the risk with cheaper gear sometimes. But change the channel if you get interference on one of the channels.
just ordered my 8mic PTU-6000 because of this video (obviously used your code and still works!). Thank you for creating this great content that help us musicians-on-a-budget a lot 👏👏👏
The scan feature is a fantastic feature, and one that I would definitely use for each of the channels at a gig. This is a great review. Thank you very very much. The mic protector can fit by the head of the mic (take off mic protector. Insert the rubber piece screw back on the mic protector ) so people don’t ‘cup’ the mic with their hand. It protects also from bumps on the Mic cage while it doesn’t make in advertently sound.
I have this system and I love it. Such a great deal and they honestly work really well. I have the system with 4 handheld mics. I also purchased 1 body pack with the lav mic. I am a DJ and the lav mic is for wedding ceremonies. I only have 2 complaints. First, the body pack's range is not as good as the handheld mics. I know this is generally an issue for all lavs across brands and price ranges. My first ceremony was rough with dropouts. Since then, I just figure out a way to get the receiver as close as possible and it's been fine. The second is a small complaint. The screens are hard to see on the mics and body pack. My display has an orange color (maybe an older manufacturing run?) Now they look like they are blue in color on the display. Again, you can't beat it. Very happy I found this and didn't shell out a ridiculous amount of money trying to get something else from a bigger brand.
Interesting, I haven’t tried the body packs, but like I mention in the video the mic went further than my $1k in ear monitor system. It definitely blew me away, especially for this price point
I guessed the audio samples correctly. And I preferred the phenyx over shure. I ended up getting this system. Thanks for this thorough review. It's apparent as someone who uses this practically and professionallly, you had to make sure you covered alot.
Hey Scott! Firstly amazing video, very detailed and accurate. I couldn't agree with you more on your analysis. I've been a karaoke host and DJ for 30 years and they are outstanding. Secondly, the colored collars that you placed at the base of the mic, can slide all the way up to the neck, and rest between the head and the shaft. They are silicone and stretchy. This way it stays more stable and protects the head of the microphone from occasional drops, in addition used for karaoke or other types of vocal shows, it will guard from people cupping the microphone. Thank you again!
Ahhhh! That totally makes sense. I guess I didn't think of that. Thanks for the comment :) And yeah, especially for karaoke and DJing, these are a no-brainer. I still use them for singing as well. Thanks again for the comment.
Just saw this and the comparison was very helpful. The Phenyx has a little more proximity effect and sounds like not the presence bump of the 58, but both are easily EQ'd if you want it. Thanks.
I could hear the difference, and the sure does sound better to my ears (fuller), however, this system sounds excellent for the money. Certainly fine for M.C., speeches, or karoake. Possibly even live band, depending on the level of the band.
From your test the range is definitely amazing. As for sound quality I could tell instantly but they sound great. If someone wanted to obsess about it they could probably take a 58 capsule and solder & replace the one this in this mic. I'm that level of a nerd.
Sennheiser EW100 G3 series handheld microphones also tend to roll off the table. I am using a cable tie wrapped around the microphone to prevent if from rolling.
@@daviddurnill8243 You want people to hold the mic close to the top. The antenna is in the bottom. You don't want them to block that. And YES, these are designed to fit on the neck of the mic. Just because you have done it one way and it fits your purpose, doesn't mean that is the way it was designed to be used.
My name is Matheus, I watched your video and at minute 10:28 you show the case for the 4 microphones receiver. There is no such item on the Phenyx Pro website. Can you please let me know where I can buy this case?
I did some research on “the best affordable wireless mics” when I was looking to get some about a year ago. Everything I read and watched at that time recommended the Innopow WM-333 dual wireless mic system, which is the one I ended up getting. They have seemed to be working great (except now for one of the mics that a Karaoke singer accidentally dropped, Grrrrrrr!).
Excellent informative vid. Regarding the mic A:B, I heard the difference but ROI is silly by comparison. I wonder if the sE V7 MC1 or MC2 mic capsule will work on these mic bodies? That would definitely be a home run. The PTU-5000 just went on sale for under $160. I wasn't planning on buying a wireless system, but that price was too much to pass on. I am hoping I won't miss the scan option too much! When the wallet is a little more plump, I may have to spring for a 7000 as well. Unbelievable value.
Thanks Bill. And yeah I thought they would be cheaper like karaoke mics or something, but they are actually really good mics. I’ve used them at gigs and plan to keep using them in the future 🤘
Hey Scott, thanks for all of your great videos. You've helped improve our audio and save money at our church in numerous ways! We have two Shure SLX-D wireless systems. Two mics are bodypacks for the pastors, and one is for a singer's mic. We don't have the fourth mic yet for that system yet. Long story short, I have a larger group of singers, and we have to plug in so many things each week because we rent out the space. I'm wondering if it's a good idea to buy this Phenyx system and use it along with the Shure system? It would save a lot of money. The Shure one shares the same frequency band, though (500s). What would you do? TLDR: I'd like to go wireless for all of our mics at church, but I already own a Shure system in the same frequency band as the Phenyx. Can I use both systems with relatively little issue?
Every RF environment is different, so there’s no real way to answer that. These could work, but I would recommend these as an upgrade for not a whole lot more: Reliable DUAL WIRELESS Microphone System - Phenyx Pro PTU 2U Review ruclips.net/video/qKZFlh5Bc28/видео.html
You said these mics were hot but I found compared to my Shure wireless microphone and my Shure SM58 microphone all three set to same volume level that the 7000a did not have much volume, I had to crank up the volume on my powered mixer to just a little shy of half way (Yamaha mixer)
Really? Because I cannot put them above like 9/10 o’clock when I use them. And I’ve test it compared to my Shure mics. With my Slx wireless, I have saw where the level was with my gain set in my mixer. When I plugged these guys in, I have to put it at 9/10 o’clock to match the same level. That’s really interesting. I mean a gain boost isn’t the end of the world, but I wonder why you would have the opposite of what I have with them 🤔
Really? Because I cannot put them above like 9/10 o’clock when I use them. And I’ve test it compared to my Shure mics. With my Slx wireless, I have saw where the level was with my gain set in my mixer. When I plugged these guys in, I have to put it at 9/10 o’clock to match the same level. That’s really interesting. I mean a gain boost isn’t the end of the world, but I wonder why you would have the opposite of what I have with them 🤔
i have the ptu-71 same as those but only 2 mics.... and i love the sound. but i get drop outs the minute the mic goes past 50 ft. ive tried to change channels and no luck.
If I want to use only 2 antenna for 8 microphone, using 2 rack of 4 mic each other, can I use a splitter, for example the t.bone splitter free solo antenna? Can I connect 4 antenna's cables to the section A and other 4 cables to the section B of the splitter? Is it work? Help. Greatfull video🤝😊
Question: Going to use this at church. We have some novice users. If i get a PTU-6000 or 7000 and scan the channels to set the microphones, do you have to rescan every time you power on or will it remember the channel? From week to week. I need to be able to just turn it on and add batteries and go... I know that I can go to the PTU-5000/4000 for the fixed frequencies... THANKS!!!
If it’s at a single location and not moving around (like at a church), you likely will be able to set it and forget it. Then only change it if you do get interference.
i saw this too late and got the fixed frequency ugh. I hope it works well. If not i won't mind spending $300 more and have the 5000 as a back up if the sound is worth it but from the looks of it seems like it is.
There is no way to manually change the frequency on the hand unit. I have an older unit and it won't sink with the infrared. I can manually set to the channel on the unit. But I can't adjust the frequency on the hand unit.
The 7000 has a better bass response for sure (no pun intended), but there is a lot of wind noise. This noise is completely absent with the Shure. I tried applying an 80hz filter to the 7000 in your video, and this didn't fix the problem at all. I think if there was a way to stuff more wind screen stuff in the 7000, it would sound very good. Excellent video!
There is a bit of mic noise with these, but they are tolerable imo. But yeah they are cheaper than the Shure ones, but very well priced. Thanks for the comment!
Very informative. One thing I am hoping you can tell me (as that is always my major problem). Is it more likely to give feedback especially when the stage monitors are turned up, or is it comparable to that of a Shure or Senheisser mic?
@@ScottUhlMusic But feedback is such an important issue when purchasing a mic. How can you review this system and not test for feedback. I am very disappointed with your response. You should have tested for feedback.
I did not have feedback with these mics. Also like I said, feedback comes from many places. But I did not notice more feedback than any other microphone 👍
Thanks! And it’s a case from MCM Custom Audio. They make some great stuff! I need to add a link to it in the description. I bought it from my drummer because he upgraded.
Very interesting. What is crazy to me is the huge difference in price between this and something like a Shure system, so thank you for your review. Would you pit this against a BLX? When would you choose true diversity over this? Ulitmately I need 4 channels.
Depends on how crucial it is for your wireless to work. Shure mics are better for sure, but these are also great for their price. I have gigged with this system and it works. But the Shure will be more reliable. It’s up to you to weigh price vs reliability
Hey Scott, love your work, keep them coming. 👏👏👌just saw your review on this unit and really interested getting hands on it. I’m located in Sydney Australia, do you think this unit will work in Sydney Australia? Thanks in advance.
Cheers Scott for the prompt reply. I’ve checked with them already and did not recommend due to the frequency not available in Sydney. I thought I’ll double check and get advice from you. I’m planning to go ahead and buy one. What yours thought? Should I or not? Thanks again
If it’s not allowed to be used in your country, I would find one that is allowed in that frequency range. Check out Sennheiser Frequency Finder in order to find what’s allowed in your area 👍
Thanks Scott, only because this unit price is good for my budget. Anyway I’ll keep looking n hopefully they will came available to us. Thank you for your help, much appreciated 👌
That’s quite a bit of antennas all together. I recommend following the advice in this video: ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.htmlsi=wE0EAtCi-C3wY-py
Hi Scott! Just found this video - Do you know if it's possible to change the mic capsule on the transmitter? I'd like to use an SE7 mic capsule instead of what it comes with, but didn't know if it was possible! Thanks!
I watched another video. He said he was a “sound guy” for a band, he does not recommend these mics for singing-live performances. Says mics are more geared for public speaking engagements. Thoughts?
Thanks, Scott, for the detailed review. I have been going back and forth looking at the 6000A since I need more than 4 mics, and am still amazed by the price. I had a couple of questions. Can you set frequencies on the microphones manually, or do you have to use the IR option? Also, have you seen any issues with the either the receiver or the microphones losing their frequency settings after changing batteries, unplugging or just having it sit around for a long time? Or cases where you accidentally bumped a button and the frequency changed without you realizing? In my application the system will be used by different people at different times, so I am hoping to set it up once and forget it and hope for everyone else it will be plug and play. Thanks for the discount code; if I end up buying this, I will definitely use it!
Since getting the PTU ones I haven’t used these in a while. But you can manually set the channel I believe. And no you don’t lose the frequency by leaving it, and if someone does bump it that’s a problem anyone can run into, but it’s highly unlikely. Just remember these are cheaper mics. And insane deal for sure, but they will have their limitations 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Oh awesome! Thanks for replying man! Would you mind linking the batteries that you use as well as the charging port? I've been looking everywhere on Amazon and they all have mixed reviews lol.
Thanks Scott just locked in my purchase just now. Question, what is the name of that rack you are using for your mic? If possible drop me the link, I really like the way it’s set up, I already have the rack kit added to the kart but I’m missing the rack itself, thanks brother
Oh man, I got it from my drummer. I believe it’s one of these by MCM Custom. This page links to different sizes just in case you want to put more gear in it 👍 www.newark.com/c/enclosures-racks-cabinets/cabinet-racks/19-cases?brand=mcm-custom-audio
One question- if you use the 1/4 inch mix out instead of the individual xlr's for each channel, and you plug the 1/4 inch into your board, does that mean all 4 mics will go through that one channel and then you'd just control the individual volume for each mic through the receiver instead of the board..? Just trying to understand if I can get all 4 mics going through one channel vs using 4 channels on my mixing board. Thanks so much!
You don’t really get control over them individually that way, it’s just all the audio coming out of the 1 output if you want to combine the audio together.
Ahh, I see what you mean. I believe the volume does still work, so you can control the volume that way. I never tried that though, so I could be wrong, but it should be correct 👍
Hey Scott! I just came across your video on this Mic System. I have been using Vocopro mics for my karaoke shows for years now and those Mics run in the 900-930Mhz range. How would you compare these mics that operate between 500 and 600Mhz. Would you say this range is more reliable than the 900 to 930Mhz range? After years of not having issues, I'm suddenly running into issues at some of my venues, so something has changed to start causing some interference.
It all depends on the venue/area you are playing in. Sometimes a venue is crowded in certain frequencies. The more frequencies you have, the more likely you will have a clean channel to transmit on. Regardless if that’s in 500 or 900Mhz
@@ScottUhlMusic Just wanted to say I finally bought a system and used it for the first time last night. I could not be happier with the build quality and performance. Thank you again for the awesome review!!!
There is a bit of handling noise. I mention that in the video. It’s not awful especially since I play guitar and sing so I don’t take it on and off of the stand. It’s noticeable but not awful
Nice review! How bright sounding are the mics? I see the frequency range is 50hz - 15kHz (you say 18kHz on this video, but on their website it say 15kHz for the mics and the system). I currently use an SE Electronics V7 mic, which has a brighter sound than an SM58 as the frequency range goes up to 20kHz. I found the SM58 muddy in comparison. So I'm wondering if the mics in this set sound bright for rock vocals (I play in an 80s rock style band). So with this set, can you take each output on the back and plug each one into a different input on a digital mixer? If so, that would be great! This looks like quite an affordable way to get 4 wireless vocal mics for a band.
Yes, you get 4 xlr outputs out of the back of this one. And I personally think these sound brighter than the sm58 👍 you definitely won’t need anything higher than 15khz or 18khz to get something to sound brighter. That’s more air and sibilance in that range 👍
Hi Scott, great video, thanks for the heads up. Can you please put up or respond to my message, a link for the Rack Mount Case shown in the video. I've been able to find the Rack Mount Kit but not that particular case. It will be much appreciated. Thanks
I bought that one from my drummer. Basically any rack case will work. Mine is just a 2u rack case. I can’t remember who makes that one. I believe it was from Newark
No, you need an IEM system for that. This one is great: ruclips.net/video/dJL_zI2drRQ/видео.html And use this trick to save money: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
Hi whats is the usuable wireless system that i can use, i plan to send the direct output signal of my fishman loudbox to a PA system..i dont know what is the best that works..thank you
You want to send a wireless signal from an amp to a PA system? Is that what you are trying to do? I’m a wireless guy for sure, but you would have to explain to me why you would need that to be wireless? Haha I’m definitely curious. If that’s not what you are trying to do, let me know
@@ScottUhlMusic yes i want to send a wireless signal to the PA system. I usually brings my acoustic amp with me and connecting via xlr cable from my direct out (xlr) to any house PA.. my concern is sometimes the PA is too far from the my stage location. It always bothers me if the cable that i brought with me is too small to reach the PA system. That is why i wanted to do it wirelessly. Many thanks..
Interesting setup. I do not know how these would sound on a guitar amp. The standard sm57 would probably be the way to go and maybe an adapter like this: ruclips.net/video/gCgIhlSP6Oc/видео.html
What do you think about there eight mic wireless system. I do Powwows so drums are spread out around the circle will this work with all eight mics none of these mics would be on at the same time. Some drums would be as far as standing at ur door and looking at the neighbors doors straight across
I don’t know they would sound for drums. The wireless element of them works great though. But the more wireless you have, often times the more money you need to spend to make sure they all work well. Just something to consider
Does the capsule not come off at all? Is the screw threads different? Or just is it no sound coming out when installing the shure capsule? Sorry don't mean ask 21 questions but I have a old gtd wireless system and everyone on forums could not make it work. I have found some what of a mod to get it to work. Your videos are great 👍
@@SQchico No worries man, glad to help. The capsule DOES come off, but I do not believe it would work with the Shure capsule. I would have to try it out to be sure, but I don't think you can swap capsules. But again, I guess I've never thought about swapping capsules with different systems lol. I don't think it's possible, but I'll have to double check!
Thanks for your input on the last video i left a comment on earlier. I found my winners. Apreciate what you do and getting back to me. Would be an honor to have you on my podcast. Youve got my sub.
I did hear a difference, but it's not an almost $9000 difference. I think the Shure has some built in noise gate that the 7000 doesn't have. I notice this even with similarly priced Sennheiser vs the Shure wireless that I have.
5:40 you're supposed to be able to screw the head off of the mic and then put the colored piece on the body and screw the head back on so it stays on permanently and yes also to color code each mic.
Couldn't agree more about your "A/B Comparison" statement. I heard differences in the mics, but they were all great imo. One thing that I have found over the years that we musicians tend to forget is that our audiences are NOT sound reinforcement techs. Our frustration with sound quality is really self inflicted and needlessly so. That is "if" it's not blatant in your face noise obviously. For that price and what it is and does I think it's fantastic!
Great video and great find Scott, thank you!
Exactly! And once you get it in a mix and in a live setting and add eq/comp/etc you can’t really tell anyways. I really cannot stand A/B comparisons personally.
You have the highest quality videos I've seen so far on explaining wireless microphone systems, very helpful for a total beginner like me. RUclips is so amazing. Thanks for all your videos
Thank you Tristian, I appreciate it!
@@ScottUhlMusic Hey scott - recently bought this and it works great but it sometimes gets interference and the mic cuts in and out. Do you have any tips on possible reasons this could be happening and how to fix it?
Connecting it to a Bose S1 Pro PA System outdoors.
@@Yopperpo I would change the channels on the mics. How many are you using at once? If you are just using the 4 mics you should almost always be fine... but just remember that they are cheaper mics and that's the risk with cheaper gear sometimes. But change the channel if you get interference on one of the channels.
just ordered my 8mic PTU-6000 because of this video (obviously used your code and still works!). Thank you for creating this great content that help us musicians-on-a-budget a lot 👏👏👏
Awesome! Enjoy it 🤘🤘🤘 and thanks for using the link/code
The scan feature is a fantastic feature, and one that I would definitely use for each of the channels at a gig. This is a great review. Thank you very very much. The mic protector can fit by the head of the mic (take off mic protector. Insert the rubber piece screw back on the mic protector ) so people don’t ‘cup’ the mic with their hand. It protects also from bumps on the Mic cage while it doesn’t make in advertently sound.
I have this system and I love it. Such a great deal and they honestly work really well. I have the system with 4 handheld mics. I also purchased 1 body pack with the lav mic. I am a DJ and the lav mic is for wedding ceremonies.
I only have 2 complaints. First, the body pack's range is not as good as the handheld mics. I know this is generally an issue for all lavs across brands and price ranges. My first ceremony was rough with dropouts. Since then, I just figure out a way to get the receiver as close as possible and it's been fine. The second is a small complaint. The screens are hard to see on the mics and body pack. My display has an orange color (maybe an older manufacturing run?) Now they look like they are blue in color on the display.
Again, you can't beat it. Very happy I found this and didn't shell out a ridiculous amount of money trying to get something else from a bigger brand.
Interesting, I haven’t tried the body packs, but like I mention in the video the mic went further than my $1k in ear monitor system. It definitely blew me away, especially for this price point
I guessed the audio samples correctly. And I preferred the phenyx over shure. I ended up getting this system. Thanks for this thorough review. It's apparent as someone who uses this practically and professionallly, you had to make sure you covered alot.
Thanks I appreciate it! Glad you like the system.
Same it’s crazy to think we prefer the sound of a 300$ system over something more than 10 times the cost
Just purchased these for karaoke set up. You make me feel I made the right choice! Was skeptical because of the price. Thanks for the review!
Definitely a fantastic choice for karaoke!
Hey Scott! Firstly amazing video, very detailed and accurate. I couldn't agree with you more on your analysis. I've been a karaoke host and DJ for 30 years and they are outstanding. Secondly, the colored collars that you placed at the base of the mic, can slide all the way up to the neck, and rest between the head and the shaft. They are silicone and stretchy. This way it stays more stable and protects the head of the microphone from occasional drops, in addition used for karaoke or other types of vocal shows, it will guard from people cupping the microphone. Thank you again!
Ahhhh! That totally makes sense. I guess I didn't think of that. Thanks for the comment :) And yeah, especially for karaoke and DJing, these are a no-brainer. I still use them for singing as well. Thanks again for the comment.
Just saw this and the comparison was very helpful. The Phenyx has a little more proximity effect and sounds like not the presence bump of the 58, but both are easily EQ'd if you want it. Thanks.
I could hear the difference, and the sure does sound better to my ears (fuller), however, this system sounds excellent for the money. Certainly fine for M.C., speeches, or karoake. Possibly even live band, depending on the level of the band.
Exactly, we can A/B all we want… but in the end, does it sound good? Then use it 👍
I just purchased this system blindly...I'm grateful this unbiased review.
Scott, I just purchased the PTU7000A 2 mic system. Thank you so much for the information. I got the discount as well.
Nice! Enjoy 🤘🤘
From your test the range is definitely amazing. As for sound quality I could tell instantly but they sound great. If someone wanted to obsess about it they could probably take a 58 capsule and solder & replace the one this in this mic. I'm that level of a nerd.
Hahaha that’s possible! That’s above my pay grade though so I have no idea. Let me know if it does work 🤘
Sennheiser EW100 G3 series handheld microphones also tend to roll off the table. I am using a cable tie wrapped around the microphone to prevent if from rolling.
FYI... The color ring that come with the mics don't go on the bottom. You are supposed to unscrew the top put them on then screw the tops back on.
Really? They fit that way? Interesting
@@daviddurnill8243 You want people to hold the mic close to the top. The antenna is in the bottom. You don't want them to block that. And YES, these are designed to fit on the neck of the mic.
Just because you have done it one way and it fits your purpose, doesn't mean that is the way it was designed to be used.
My name is Matheus, I watched your video and at minute 10:28 you show the case for the 4 microphones receiver. There is no such item on the Phenyx Pro website. Can you please let me know where I can buy this case?
4 microphones? You should be able to find that 👍
I did some research on “the best affordable wireless mics” when I was looking to get some about a year ago. Everything I read and watched at that time recommended the Innopow WM-333 dual wireless mic system, which is the one I ended up getting. They have seemed to be working great (except now for one of the mics that a Karaoke singer accidentally dropped, Grrrrrrr!).
Oh cool, I’ll have to check that one out. But I definitely do recommend these ones still, they are holding up great!
Thanks Scott for another awesome video
Thanks!
Very informative, great video
Thanks 🤘
Excellent informative vid. Regarding the mic A:B, I heard the difference but ROI is silly by comparison. I wonder if the sE V7 MC1 or MC2 mic capsule will work on these mic bodies? That would definitely be a home run. The PTU-5000 just went on sale for under $160. I wasn't planning on buying a wireless system, but that price was too much to pass on. I am hoping I won't miss the scan option too much! When the wallet is a little more plump, I may have to spring for a 7000 as well. Unbelievable value.
Yeah, even if there is a tone difference, they sound great! I do not believe you can change capsules on this though
I've ordered 2, in your opinion 15:39 what would it be like having 8 antennas on the rack kit? Should I get the fins instead? Thanks!
Combining and distributing wireless is almost always better with that many antennas. But it’s not 100% required
Wow! Crazy cheap. Nice job Scott.
Thanks Bill. And yeah I thought they would be cheaper like karaoke mics or something, but they are actually really good mics. I’ve used them at gigs and plan to keep using them in the future 🤘
This is great. Could you post a link to the right model rack and the right antenna cable fitting correctly? Thank you.
Thanks! And there should be links in the description 👍
Hey Scott, thanks for all of your great videos. You've helped improve our audio and save money at our church in numerous ways! We have two Shure SLX-D wireless systems. Two mics are bodypacks for the pastors, and one is for a singer's mic. We don't have the fourth mic yet for that system yet.
Long story short, I have a larger group of singers, and we have to plug in so many things each week because we rent out the space. I'm wondering if it's a good idea to buy this Phenyx system and use it along with the Shure system? It would save a lot of money. The Shure one shares the same frequency band, though (500s). What would you do?
TLDR: I'd like to go wireless for all of our mics at church, but I already own a Shure system in the same frequency band as the Phenyx. Can I use both systems with relatively little issue?
Every RF environment is different, so there’s no real way to answer that. These could work, but I would recommend these as an upgrade for not a whole lot more: Reliable DUAL WIRELESS Microphone System - Phenyx Pro PTU 2U Review
ruclips.net/video/qKZFlh5Bc28/видео.html
You said these mics were hot but I found compared to my Shure wireless microphone and my Shure SM58 microphone all three set to same volume level that the 7000a did not have much volume, I had to crank up the volume on my powered mixer to just a little shy of half way (Yamaha mixer)
Really? Because I cannot put them above like 9/10 o’clock when I use them. And I’ve test it compared to my Shure mics. With my Slx wireless, I have saw where the level was with my gain set in my mixer. When I plugged these guys in, I have to put it at 9/10 o’clock to match the same level. That’s really interesting. I mean a gain boost isn’t the end of the world, but I wonder why you would have the opposite of what I have with them 🤔
Really? Because I cannot put them above like 9/10 o’clock when I use them. And I’ve test it compared to my Shure mics. With my Slx wireless, I have saw where the level was with my gain set in my mixer. When I plugged these guys in, I have to put it at 9/10 o’clock to match the same level. That’s really interesting. I mean a gain boost isn’t the end of the world, but I wonder why you would have the opposite of what I have with them 🤔
I have this same system and it is awsome
i have the ptu-71 same as those but only 2 mics.... and i love the sound. but i get drop outs the minute the mic goes past 50 ft. ive tried to change channels and no luck.
Cheaper wireless will do that sometimes. 50 feet is actually good range. But the “why” could be a number of things for sure
If I want to use only 2 antenna for 8 microphone, using 2 rack of 4 mic each other, can I use a splitter, for example the t.bone splitter free solo antenna?
Can I connect 4 antenna's cables to the section A and other 4 cables to the section B of the splitter? Is it work?
Help. Greatfull video🤝😊
You would want to use an active antenna distribution system I believe in that situation if I understand correctly .
@@ScottUhlMusic so this t.bone splitter is usefull? in the description it says it's active
Hey Scott, thanks for the video. Would you recommend not putting this close to my rack the holds my xr18 and router? Thanks!
No, that should be fine! Just don’t put it in a rack with a bunch of other wireless/antennas
Cant seem to find the case kit. I found the front mounting kit but not the actuual case. Where can i find that?
The case I got from Newark. That's a separate company from Phenyx Pro
Question: Going to use this at church. We have some novice users. If i get a PTU-6000 or 7000 and scan the channels to set the microphones, do you have to rescan every time you power on or will it remember the channel? From week to week. I need to be able to just turn it on and add batteries and go...
I know that I can go to the PTU-5000/4000 for the fixed frequencies...
THANKS!!!
If it’s at a single location and not moving around (like at a church), you likely will be able to set it and forget it. Then only change it if you do get interference.
Good video wondering where you got the rack mount kit from to put att antennas on the front of rack instead of the rear?
Thanks! And it was my drummers that he didn’t need anymore, but I usually get this model from Newark. They have great stuff online 👍
Aloha Scott, thanks for all of your phenyx wireless mic reviews. Are these mics still in use today? Wondering about longevity. Thanks
Yup! I’ve used them recently and still work great!
why no echo feature? is there any dual MIC system with echo, bass and treeble features for karaoke you recommend?
Thanks
Echo on the wireless? I don’t know any wireless microphone system that has built in effects. Those are normally done on a mixer
i saw this too late and got the fixed frequency ugh. I hope it works well. If not i won't mind spending $300 more and have the 5000 as a back up if the sound is worth it but from the looks of it seems like it is.
Yeah, scanning is very valuable for sure! But I’m sure the 500 will still be good (as a backup too like you said)
There is no way to manually change the frequency on the hand unit. I have an older unit and it won't sink with the infrared. I can manually set to the channel on the unit. But I can't adjust the frequency on the hand unit.
Yeah only with syncing I believe
I was just thinking about this very rig.
It’s honestly a phenomenal system! Especially at that price
The 7000 has a better bass response for sure (no pun intended), but there is a lot of wind noise. This noise is completely absent with the Shure. I tried applying an 80hz filter to the 7000 in your video, and this didn't fix the problem at all. I think if there was a way to stuff more wind screen stuff in the 7000, it would sound very good. Excellent video!
There is a bit of mic noise with these, but they are tolerable imo. But yeah they are cheaper than the Shure ones, but very well priced. Thanks for the comment!
Very informative. One thing I am hoping you can tell me (as that is always my major problem). Is it more likely to give feedback especially when the stage monitors are turned up, or is it comparable to that of a Shure or Senheisser mic?
Feedback really depends on a lot of things. I almost exclusively use in ear monitors now. I hate use wedges haha so I’m not the right guy to ask
@@ScottUhlMusic But feedback is such an important issue when purchasing a mic. How can you review this system and not test for feedback. I am very disappointed with your response. You should have tested for feedback.
I did not have feedback with these mics. Also like I said, feedback comes from many places. But I did not notice more feedback than any other microphone 👍
hello there! I just want to know if the capsule are interchangeable? like when one is broken, can I attach the shure capsule to those?
I do not believe you can change them to Shure ones
Great video bro def think I am gonna pull the trigger on this system what rack brand is that in the video I wanna use that for my cover band?
Thanks! And it’s a case from MCM Custom Audio. They make some great stuff! I need to add a link to it in the description. I bought it from my drummer because he upgraded.
@@ScottUhlMusic is that the 2u or the 4u?
I got the 2u
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks again homie !!
Very interesting. What is crazy to me is the huge difference in price between this and something like a Shure system, so thank you for your review. Would you pit this against a BLX? When would you choose true diversity over this? Ulitmately I need 4 channels.
Depends on how crucial it is for your wireless to work. Shure mics are better for sure, but these are also great for their price. I have gigged with this system and it works. But the Shure will be more reliable. It’s up to you to weigh price vs reliability
Thanks I did a gig with a two channel BLX system, and I did experience some dropouts until I propped the receiver unit up on its side.
Hey Scott, love your work, keep them coming. 👏👏👌just saw your review on this unit and really interested getting hands on it. I’m located in Sydney Australia, do you think this unit will work in Sydney Australia? Thanks in advance.
I believe so, but message Phenyx pro and make sure. They will know and they are good with responding 👍
Cheers Scott for the prompt reply. I’ve checked with them already and did not recommend due to the frequency not available in Sydney.
I thought I’ll double check and get advice from you. I’m planning to go ahead and buy one. What yours thought? Should I or not? Thanks again
If it’s not allowed to be used in your country, I would find one that is allowed in that frequency range. Check out Sennheiser Frequency Finder in order to find what’s allowed in your area 👍
Thanks Scott, only because this unit price is good for my budget. Anyway I’ll keep looking n hopefully they will came available to us. Thank you for your help, much appreciated 👌
Lets say I purchase the 4 mics unit, and the wireless IEM system with 4 receivers... would I have RF interference or problems? What do you think?
That’s quite a bit of antennas all together. I recommend following the advice in this video: ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.htmlsi=wE0EAtCi-C3wY-py
Hi Scott! Just found this video - Do you know if it's possible to change the mic capsule on the transmitter? I'd like to use an SE7 mic capsule instead of what it comes with, but didn't know if it was possible! Thanks!
I do not believe that you can change the capsule on these
@@ScottUhlMusic ok, I wasn't sure -- thanks!
Scott
Can you combine the antenna with the phoenix antenna rig and the phoenix IME system?
No, you need separate antennas for that
Great video! Useful info!
Btw what’s the brand/modelfor the rack?
It’s one that I got off of Newark. They are cheap but work well!
I watched another video. He said he was a “sound guy” for a band, he does not recommend these mics for singing-live performances. Says mics are more geared for public speaking engagements.
Thoughts?
I’ve sang into it, and I’ve had others sing into it. They are cheaper, but they work well imo
@@ScottUhlMusic Cool. Yeah I’m just looking for a set for home karaoke 😄😄
I guess these would be fine. 🤣🤣
How is handling noise rejection? In the samples you recorded on this video, it sounded okay.
There’s a little handling noise with it. It’s tolerable imo
Thanks, Scott, for the detailed review. I have been going back and forth looking at the 6000A since I need more than 4 mics, and am still amazed by the price. I had a couple of questions. Can you set frequencies on the microphones manually, or do you have to use the IR option? Also, have you seen any issues with the either the receiver or the microphones losing their frequency settings after changing batteries, unplugging or just having it sit around for a long time? Or cases where you accidentally bumped a button and the frequency changed without you realizing? In my application the system will be used by different people at different times, so I am hoping to set it up once and forget it and hope for everyone else it will be plug and play. Thanks for the discount code; if I end up buying this, I will definitely use it!
Since getting the PTU ones I haven’t used these in a while. But you can manually set the channel I believe. And no you don’t lose the frequency by leaving it, and if someone does bump it that’s a problem anyone can run into, but it’s highly unlikely. Just remember these are cheaper mics. And insane deal for sure, but they will have their limitations 👍
What would your tips be in regards to the batteries? Would rechargeable batteries be compatible?
I use only rechargeables personally. Definitely worth it in my opinion.
@@ScottUhlMusic Oh awesome! Thanks for replying man! Would you mind linking the batteries that you use as well as the charging port? I've been looking everywhere on Amazon and they all have mixed reviews lol.
Yeah no problem, I like these personally:
◆ (16)AA/AAA + (2)9v Charger: amzn.to/3zHFdro
◆ AA Rechargeables: amzn.to/2RsJmuu
Hi Scott, to sing in a rock Banda, would you use them? Thanks
I’ve used it for bands, yes. But I would recommend this by Phenyx pro instead: ruclips.net/video/nLpo5vqhW5c/видео.html
Thanks Scott just locked in my purchase just now. Question, what is the name of that rack you are using for your mic? If possible drop me the link, I really like the way it’s set up, I already have the rack kit added to the kart but I’m missing the rack itself, thanks brother
Oh man, I got it from my drummer. I believe it’s one of these by MCM Custom. This page links to different sizes just in case you want to put more gear in it 👍 www.newark.com/c/enclosures-racks-cabinets/cabinet-racks/19-cases?brand=mcm-custom-audio
One question- if you use the 1/4 inch mix out instead of the individual xlr's for each channel, and you plug the 1/4 inch into your board, does that mean all 4 mics will go through that one channel and then you'd just control the individual volume for each mic through the receiver instead of the board..? Just trying to understand if I can get all 4 mics going through one channel vs using 4 channels on my mixing board. Thanks so much!
You don’t really get control over them individually that way, it’s just all the audio coming out of the 1 output if you want to combine the audio together.
@@ScottUhlMusic So the individual knobs on the front won’t change for each mic? They’ll all be at one level? Appreciate your response!!!!! 🙏
Ahh, I see what you mean. I believe the volume does still work, so you can control the volume that way. I never tried that though, so I could be wrong, but it should be correct 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you so much for your help!
Hey Scott! I just came across your video on this Mic System. I have been using Vocopro mics for my karaoke shows for years now and those Mics run in the 900-930Mhz range. How would you compare these mics that operate between 500 and 600Mhz. Would you say this range is more reliable than the 900 to 930Mhz range? After years of not having issues, I'm suddenly running into issues at some of my venues, so something has changed to start causing some interference.
It all depends on the venue/area you are playing in. Sometimes a venue is crowded in certain frequencies. The more frequencies you have, the more likely you will have a clean channel to transmit on. Regardless if that’s in 500 or 900Mhz
@@ScottUhlMusic Just wanted to say I finally bought a system and used it for the first time last night. I could not be happier with the build quality and performance. Thank you again for the awesome review!!!
Could you please review/tell us how is the handling noise ?
There is a bit of handling noise. I mention that in the video. It’s not awful especially since I play guitar and sing so I don’t take it on and off of the stand. It’s noticeable but not awful
Just bought the 8 thanks.
Enjoy 🤘
Hey, any update on your experience?
Nice review! How bright sounding are the mics? I see the frequency range is 50hz - 15kHz (you say 18kHz on this video, but on their website it say 15kHz for the mics and the system). I currently use an SE Electronics V7 mic, which has a brighter sound than an SM58 as the frequency range goes up to 20kHz. I found the SM58 muddy in comparison. So I'm wondering if the mics in this set sound bright for rock vocals (I play in an 80s rock style band). So with this set, can you take each output on the back and plug each one into a different input on a digital mixer? If so, that would be great! This looks like quite an affordable way to get 4 wireless vocal mics for a band.
Yes, you get 4 xlr outputs out of the back of this one. And I personally think these sound brighter than the sm58 👍 you definitely won’t need anything higher than 15khz or 18khz to get something to sound brighter. That’s more air and sibilance in that range 👍
When I do a scan, it picks different channels for each mic. Is this the best setup or should they be on the same channel?
Different channels for sure
Hi Scott, great video, thanks for the heads up. Can you please put up or respond to my message, a link for the Rack Mount Case shown in the video. I've been able to find the Rack Mount Kit but not that particular case. It will be much appreciated. Thanks
I bought that one from my drummer. Basically any rack case will work. Mine is just a 2u rack case. I can’t remember who makes that one. I believe it was from Newark
Can we use this just as an in ear system without the mics? We're a 4 peice band looking for in ears
No, you need an IEM system for that.
This one is great: ruclips.net/video/dJL_zI2drRQ/видео.html
And use this trick to save money: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
Would you recommend these for wedding ceremonies/speeches/toast??
Definitely 👍
Thanks so much!
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Hi whats is the usuable wireless system that i can use, i plan to send the direct output signal of my fishman loudbox to a PA system..i dont know what is the best that works..thank you
You want to send a wireless signal from an amp to a PA system? Is that what you are trying to do? I’m a wireless guy for sure, but you would have to explain to me why you would need that to be wireless? Haha I’m definitely curious. If that’s not what you are trying to do, let me know
@@ScottUhlMusic yes i want to send a wireless signal to the PA system. I usually brings my acoustic amp with me and connecting via xlr cable from my direct out (xlr) to any house PA.. my concern is sometimes the PA is too far from the my stage location. It always bothers me if the cable that i brought with me is too small to reach the PA system. That is why i wanted to do it wirelessly. Many thanks..
Interesting setup. I do not know how these would sound on a guitar amp. The standard sm57 would probably be the way to go and maybe an adapter like this: ruclips.net/video/gCgIhlSP6Oc/видео.html
What do you think about there eight mic wireless system. I do Powwows so drums are spread out around the circle will this work with all eight mics none of these mics would be on at the same time. Some drums would be as far as standing at ur door and looking at the neighbors doors straight across
I don’t know they would sound for drums. The wireless element of them works great though. But the more wireless you have, often times the more money you need to spend to make sure they all work well. Just something to consider
@@ScottUhlMusic they sing around a drum a group…. Do u think the antenna system they have will help or does that work with only multiple receivers
Oh it’s for vocals? Gotcha. So 8 wireless microphones and that’s all the wireless?
@@ScottUhlMusic yes it’s the phenyx ptu 6000 8 mic set
I think that should be good 👍 of course it always depends on the wireless environment.
Does it include or do they sell coax extenders to extend the antenna mounting toward the front of a case?
You buy that separately like I mention in the video. It’s not very much money at all if you want to rack mount it up
@@ScottUhlMusic how would you rate them compared to the GTD-Audio wireless?
I haven’t heard those ones
Hello, this microphone can be used in Australia as well?
I’m pretty sure they sell a model specifically for Australia on their website
You think this mics can be good for instruments like congas or brass instruments?
Brass might be too loud and clip it possibly. Congas could work though I think. I haven’t really had to mic a conga before haha
What model is the shallow case 2 space case you mounted the 7000 in?
Never mind I saw it in another comment!
Yeah the site Newark makes some great cases for quite cheap
Hey Scott does the capsule comes off? if so it would be interesting to use a shure capsule with 4 mic and all in a 1u space
You cannot swap it for a Shure capsule
Does the capsule not come off at all? Is the screw threads different? Or just is it no sound coming out when installing the shure capsule? Sorry don't mean ask 21 questions but I have a old gtd wireless system and everyone on forums could not make it work. I have found some what of a mod to get it to work. Your videos are great 👍
@@SQchico No worries man, glad to help. The capsule DOES come off, but I do not believe it would work with the Shure capsule. I would have to try it out to be sure, but I don't think you can swap capsules. But again, I guess I've never thought about swapping capsules with different systems lol. I don't think it's possible, but I'll have to double check!
Do u recommend this for a small live band setting?
Yes 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic i see thanks dude this is gonna be a life saver.
Thanks for your input on the last video i left a comment on earlier. I found my winners. Apreciate what you do and getting back to me. Would be an honor to have you on my podcast. Youve got my sub.
Just wondering does the capsule unscrew so that you can change them?
No, I do not believe you can change the capsule
On the amazon listing for this model it clearly shows that the capsule is removable and appears to be a Beta58a clone
heard more plosives in the phenyx pro
The plosives in this one are not bad at all live
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the reply. Thats great to know! Appreciate your videos.
What's the difference between the 6000 and 7000 ??
Can anyone answer this for me
I believe the 6000 is the one that has 8 wireless mics in 1U of rack space
Thank you for your response,but are they the same mic is really what I want to know
How many phenyl pro ptu wireless can be used at the same time
I use 4 of them often without any problems. But that is always going to depend on the wireless environment. That's true with ANY wireless system.
Does it come with the stand clips?
It doesn’t. You can get those pretty cheap on Amazon 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks
Are these dynamic microphones?
Yes 👍
Would you recommend for small church?
Definitely 👍
It has a very loud voice even when the volume is on the minimum.
It is pretty hot for an output for sure
@@ScottUhlMusic how to manage the loudness even when the volume is on the minimum? Ant recommendations?
What case are you using?
Skipped over my answer in video...my bad
Haha no worries 👍
I did hear a difference, but it's not an almost $9000 difference. I think the Shure has some built in noise gate that the 7000 doesn't have.
I notice this even with similarly priced Sennheiser vs the Shure wireless that I have.
“I hear a difference but it’s not an almost $9000” difference is such a great way to explain my philosophy on tone 🤘
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