Dave - this is a terrific video! While I always look forward to, and enjoy, your full edits - I especially appreciate the videos that focus on a particular set of functions/actions in the TK9 plugin. I have used the Orton and Smart Orton actions on some of my images but your demonstration of how to tweak things is going to be very helpful. Seems to me that the "Make it Glow" action is similar in some ways the Orton effect actions. Could you comment on this?
Thanks Steve. For me, Make It Glow gives a subtle hint of glow. It adds a nice softening without effecting the shadows and highlights and also slightly warms the image, a great little action.
The Make-It-Glow action in the TK9 Combo/Cx panel is based on color. It blurs and accentuates the colors in the the image. If you have a black and white image, for example, Make-It-Glow won't do much because there is no color to make the glow with. Orton Effect, on the other hand, blurs the actual image pixels, not just the color, but luminosity also, to create its effect. You will still see an Orton Effect on a black and white image as a result. If all you're looking for is a color glow, then Make-It-Glow is something that might be quite useful. However, to get more of an ethereal glow, Orton will probably work better.
Thanks for revealing the Orton ACR/Nick Page action along with the ability to make all those micro adjustments as well with the other actions...Have a great weekend!
Thanks Dave. Another great lesson. I never use the Orton effect but this lesson has made me re-think that. I am sure it will start to appear in some of my future edits. You explained each method really well. Such a simple edit can make a big difference to the image.
Dave, another great video! Like some others, I am a BIG fan of the TK9 Blend If panel to "tone down" the effect - using the taper sliders in the middle. It's such a quick, easy method and works great. I also, btw, love the Nik Effects Classical Soft and/or Glamour Glow & then the Blend If panel. That leaves the possibility for a Mask for specific areas and of course, the overall Opacity. I have recently gotten into the habit of using one or more of the above on almost all my images - so many options! Thanks again & hope you have a great New Year!
Thanks for a great tutorial on this effect Dave. It has really opened my eyes how to adjust it with more accuracy. Previously I would use Blend If to remove the effect from the highlights and/or shadows. The other thing I used quite a lot was to put a black mask on the group and then brush in the effect where I wanted it. For instance in the first image I would use little to no effect on the tree trunks and confine the effect just to the leaves. Thanks again.
Thanks Dave! I’ve been using Nick Page’s Orton technique for a couple years and never knew that action was available in the TK workspace. What a time saver. 👍👍
Thank you Dave for the tutorial, I always look forward to your edits. May I suggest that before the full edit, you point out the thoughts map so we know which areas need to be worked on? Thank you again.
I also wish you and your loved ones all the best this year. With this film, as always, you blew me away with your comprehensive knowledge, which you can convey to others in such a fabulously simple way. Greetings in winter from still spring Poland, from the city of "Przemyśl Fortress".
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I often experiment trying Orton on an image, but only use the plain Orton action and then adjust the opacity. This video opens up a new huge potential for its use. Already have a number of images in mind to give it a go on. Great start to 2024.
TK 9 continues to amaze me. You definitely take your pictures to another level. Your videos are simple to understand and apply . Thank you Dave. Have a great weekend.
Great overview Dave. I like the Orton effect and have sometimes struggled to adjust the look to my taste. Now that I understand how all the layers interact future adjustments will be more to my taste and I will be using the Orton effect more frequently. I like wildlife and landscape photography. I have found the Orton effect to be useful in both and have been recently using the Orton effect more in wildlife work. When I mask out the subject totally or less and apply more effect to the background it helps the subject jump out and people are attracted to the soft backgrounds. That includes already out of focus backgrounds. Thanks again and keep those videos coming please!
This is great. Especially since I am iPhone only. I should be using this a lot more to tone down the over-processed crunch. Awesome video. Thanks Dave!
Thank you, Dave! I have been using Orton for some time but I always used group opacity only. I completely forgot about Nick Page Orton. This was very helpful video.
Hi Dave, I had largely forgotten about the Orton functionality on the TK panel, mainly I think as when I tried it I didn't try much in the way of adjustments. This video has really put this back on my list of things to consider when processing an image. I had a go at further adjusting the Orton using the Blend If button on the TK9 panel and that looks useful for subtle adjustments and I know how you love the blend if button 🤣
Hello Dave! This was a masterpiece tutorial on this edition of TK Fridays. I really like the Orton Effect, but I never got a full grasp of its use until today. This was fantastic. In my case, I was using the calculator to tweak the effects and apply them on certain portions of my images. But your technique shines. I don't know if you've used the trusty calculator tool when applying your Orton Effects on your images. I'd love to know your opinion on this. But anyhow, thanks so much for this edition. Happy editing!😁
Love this one Dave. I've been trying to emulate the glow I used to get when using infrared film, on my digital infrared images, and this is a big help. Thank you,
Thanks Dave for this fantastic video! Very helpful. Is there a way to run a folder of images/batch process for any of these actions? I'd love to somehow figure out how to create an action from one of these Orton effects for a large group of images. Thanks again!
I'm an On1 Photo Raw user. I wonder if there's a way to accomplish this on that platform. Anyway, good work on this. It is indeed a lovely effect. Thanks.
Hello Dave, I am trying to develop my own workflow to edit my landscape pictures in a painterly/ old masters style, I really love to look at those paintings they seem to have a style about them that a camera simply cannot produce. Anyway I have some steps done already but this vide will give me more direction to go to get the look I’m after thanks for the tips maybe I can show you one of my pics sometime.
Great video Dave as usual. If my memory is correct, I thought you did a previous video for Smart Orton where you used a specific formula to determine how much blur to start with.
Thanks Dave. I wasn't aware of the Nick Page Orton. It looks very flexible. Do you sharpen before or after applying the Orton effect? It seems counter-intuitive to apply a blur and then to sharpen it.
Great video, Dave! At what stage in your workflow would you apply any of these Orton effects? Is the answer different for one Orton effect versus another?
I thought about it and then decided that watching the video would be a better resource because there are so many options when making adjustments to the Orton effects.
If you are referring to the My Actions Panels they will be blank until you put your actions in them. They are designed as an easy access panel to actions that you create. The actions that come with TK9 can be accessed by clicking on the TK Button in either the CX or the Combo Panel.
Dave - this is a terrific video! While I always look forward to, and enjoy, your full edits - I especially appreciate the videos that focus on a particular set of functions/actions in the TK9 plugin. I have used the Orton and Smart Orton actions on some of my images but your demonstration of how to tweak things is going to be very helpful. Seems to me that the "Make it Glow" action is similar in some ways the Orton effect actions. Could you comment on this?
Thanks Steve. For me, Make It Glow gives a subtle hint of glow. It adds a nice softening without effecting the shadows and highlights and also slightly warms the image, a great little action.
The Make-It-Glow action in the TK9 Combo/Cx panel is based on color. It blurs and accentuates the colors in the the image. If you have a black and white image, for example, Make-It-Glow won't do much because there is no color to make the glow with. Orton Effect, on the other hand, blurs the actual image pixels, not just the color, but luminosity also, to create its effect. You will still see an Orton Effect on a black and white image as a result. If all you're looking for is a color glow, then Make-It-Glow is something that might be quite useful. However, to get more of an ethereal glow, Orton will probably work better.
Thanks Tony - very helpful and helps to put the Make it Glow action in context. @@TonyKuyper
Thanks Tony for the explanation.
@@TonyKuyper Thank you
Wow, this is the first time I have seen the Ortion effect explained in a way I could understand. Thanks Dave!
Awesome tutorial -- great way to start a new year of TK Fridays!
Great Dave. Very well explained. A very helpful video. More deep dives like this please .
Thanks Dave! I always find your videos very inspiring. Right when I need it......
Thanks Dave! Learned a lot with today’s video!
Nice one, thanks for running through all the Orton options!
Thanks for revealing the Orton ACR/Nick Page action along with the ability to make all those micro adjustments as well with the other actions...Have a great weekend!
Thanks for the great explanation, Dave! I had no idea there were so many options to modify the effects. Can't wait to try them out!
Thanks Dave. I love the orton tools.
Top work Dave…! A great tutorial.
l do love the effect of Orton on the highlights, really softly dreamy and beautiful !!
Thanks Dave
Another superb lesson from the Master! Thank you Dave and Thank you Tony ~
Thank you so much, Mr. Kelly. I love Orton Effect and the tips you showed us are very precious.
Hello Dave, Happy 2024 to you and yours! This was a very effective demonstration of the Orton effect.
Thanks Richard and Happy 2024!
Great video Dave. Happy New Year!
Thanks Dave. Another great lesson. I never use the Orton effect but this lesson has made me re-think that. I am sure it will start to appear in some of my future edits. You explained each method really well. Such a simple edit can make a big difference to the image.
Dave, another great video! Like some others, I am a BIG fan of the TK9 Blend If panel to "tone down" the effect - using the taper sliders in the middle. It's such a quick, easy method and works great. I also, btw, love the Nik Effects Classical Soft and/or Glamour Glow & then the Blend If panel. That leaves the possibility for a Mask for specific areas and of course, the overall Opacity. I have recently gotten into the habit of using one or more of the above on almost all my images - so many options! Thanks again & hope you have a great New Year!
A lot of useful info here Dave. Would love to see a session on all the workflow extras. Looks like lots of useful stuff in there.
Thank you very much for the highly informative videos; they are a highlight for me every Friday.
Thanks for a great tutorial on this effect Dave. It has really opened my eyes how to adjust it with more accuracy. Previously I would use Blend If to remove the effect from the highlights and/or shadows. The other thing I used quite a lot was to put a black mask on the group and then brush in the effect where I wanted it. For instance in the first image I would use little to no effect on the tree trunks and confine the effect just to the leaves. Thanks again.
Thanks Dave! I’ve been using Nick Page’s Orton technique for a couple years and never knew that action was available in the TK workspace. What a time saver. 👍👍
Thank you Dave for the tutorial, I always look forward to your edits. May I suggest that before the full edit, you point out the thoughts map so we know which areas need to be worked on? Thank you again.
I also wish you and your loved ones all the best this year. With this film, as always, you blew me away with your comprehensive knowledge, which you can convey to others in such a fabulously simple way. Greetings in winter from still spring Poland, from the city of "Przemyśl Fortress".
Thanks for digging into TK9 to find those effects. I’m getting there, and have the button by button course.Only 40 videos to go in that one.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I often experiment trying Orton on an image, but only use the plain Orton action and then adjust the opacity. This video opens up a new huge potential for its use. Already have a number of images in mind to give it a go on. Great start to 2024.
Hi Dave. Orton effect never used. After your tutorial i will try. Thank you very much. Best regards from Switzerland . 👏👏👏
TK 9 continues to amaze me. You definitely take your pictures to another level. Your videos are simple to understand and apply . Thank you Dave. Have a great weekend.
Thanks Mozzam. Have a great weekend and Happy New Year and Happy Editing!
thank you@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly
Thanks again Dave for this usefull lesson and happy new year 🙃
Happy new year!
Thanks Dave, I really appreciate this in-depth look at the Orton effect. I will definitely be using the effect in my future edits.
Happy New year Dave, this is a very useful tutorial.... Thank you 😊
Happy new year!
Great overview Dave. I like the Orton effect and have sometimes struggled to adjust the look to my taste. Now that I understand how all the layers interact future adjustments will be more to my taste and I will be using the Orton effect more frequently. I like wildlife and landscape photography. I have found the Orton effect to be useful in both and have been recently using the Orton effect more in wildlife work. When I mask out the subject totally or less and apply more effect to the background it helps the subject jump out and people are attracted to the soft backgrounds. That includes already out of focus backgrounds. Thanks again and keep those videos coming please!
This is great. Especially since I am iPhone only. I should be using this a lot more to tone down the over-processed crunch. Awesome video. Thanks Dave!
Glad it was helpful! Happy Editing.
Thank you, Dave! I have been using Orton for some time but I always used group opacity only. I completely forgot about Nick Page Orton. This was very helpful video.
Hi Dave, I had largely forgotten about the Orton functionality on the TK panel, mainly I think as when I tried it I didn't try much in the way of adjustments. This video has really put this back on my list of things to consider when processing an image. I had a go at further adjusting the Orton using the Blend If button on the TK9 panel and that looks useful for subtle adjustments and I know how you love the blend if button 🤣
Hello Dave! This was a masterpiece tutorial on this edition of TK Fridays. I really like the Orton Effect, but I never got a full grasp of its use until today. This was fantastic. In my case, I was using the calculator to tweak the effects and apply them on certain portions of my images. But your technique shines. I don't know if you've used the trusty calculator tool when applying your Orton Effects on your images. I'd love to know your opinion on this. But anyhow, thanks so much for this edition. Happy editing!😁
I haven't tried the calculator with the Orton effect yet. Happy Editing and Happy New Year!
Love this one Dave. I've been trying to emulate the glow I used to get when using infrared film, on my digital infrared images, and this is a big help. Thank you,
Fantastic!
Thanks Dave for this fantastic video! Very helpful. Is there a way to run a folder of images/batch process for any of these actions? I'd love to somehow figure out how to create an action from one of these Orton effects for a large group of images. Thanks again!
I'm an On1 Photo Raw user. I wonder if there's a way to accomplish this on that platform. Anyway, good work on this. It is indeed a lovely effect. Thanks.
What is the difference between Orton and the Make it Glow option?
Tony Kuyper addressed this in a previous comment. I pinned that comment so it would be easy for you to find in the comment section of this video.
Hi Dave, How would you comparison the Orton effect to Soft Pop?
Hello Dave, I am trying to develop my own workflow to edit my landscape pictures in a painterly/ old masters style, I really love to look at those paintings they seem to have a style about them that a camera simply cannot produce. Anyway I have some steps done already but this vide will give me more direction to go to get the look I’m after thanks for the tips maybe I can show you one of my pics sometime.
John I'd love to see your images.
Great video Dave as usual. If my memory is correct, I thought you did a previous video for Smart Orton where you used a specific formula to determine how much blur to start with.
TK9 now calculates the blur based on megapixel size of image. I think this automates the calculation Dave used in TK8.
@@datstheone1 Thanks for clearing that up.
Thanks!
Thank you for the Super Thanks!
Thank you DK for the informative videos.
Thanks
Thanks Dave. I wasn't aware of the Nick Page Orton. It looks very flexible. Do you sharpen before or after applying the Orton effect? It seems counter-intuitive to apply a blur and then to sharpen it.
Great video, Dave! At what stage in your workflow would you apply any of these Orton effects? Is the answer different for one Orton effect versus another?
I apply them closer to the end of an edit and that holds true for all 3 Orton effects.
Dave, are you going to post a PDF of the workflow?
I thought about it and then decided that watching the video would be a better resource because there are so many options when making adjustments to the Orton effects.
Makes sense...@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly
I have tk9 and DL all the action but they are all blank. what do I need to do?
If you are referring to the My Actions Panels they will be blank until you put your actions in them. They are designed as an easy access panel to actions that you create. The actions that come with TK9 can be accessed by clicking on the TK Button in either the CX or the Combo Panel.
a bit confused.. what's the point in these manipulations on a 8 bit image?
Thanks!
Steve thanks for the Super Thanks, it's greatly appreciated.