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Green Day was one of my favorite bands for several years. Eventually, I got severely burned out (no pun intended) on their music for several reasons. I was listening to them way too much for my own good, and I played in a band that covered them almost exclusively. After not listening to them for about 3-4 years, I started listening to them again last spring, and fell in love with their music all over again. I also got to see them on the Hella Mega tour last year, and it was incredible. I had wanted to see them live for years. Side note: Insomniac is actually my favorite Green Day album. I love how dark and heavy it is compared to Dookie.
I love coming back to a band or album after not having listened to it for a long time. It’s like re discovering your love for something you might have forgotten how much you used to love.
@@thatringinginyourears3955 I wasn't planning on going at first, because the nearest date was at least four hours away, and required a hotel, but my bandmates and I made a road trip out of it.
Green Day’s existence is forever validated for making Dookie and American Idiot. I don’t care how many Father of All or trilogy tier albums they make. Those two albums are iconic af at this point.
Im a big fan of the offspring rage against the machine bad religion etc and they all have left their impactful and delightfully loud and clear albums by only a couple or a stash green day is no different.
@@AxioChrono if "Father of All ..." was made by some random alt-pop band, it would be good. but for Green Day standard, that album sucks donkey's hairy balls
People who hate Green Day for "losing their punk-rock roots" like to conveniently forget that Billie Joe has kept the Gilman Street building from being foreclosed on by buying the property. No, Seriously, look it up!
Green Day was the gateway for so many people into punk rock/pop punk. I think their legacy is absolutely secure as one of rock music’s all time greats. I saw them at the Hella Mega Tour in August and they were absolutely phenomenal. Billie Joe has a level of charisma that hardly anyone can match.
They were my gateway into rock music in general. I was your average kid listening to radio hits until i heard american idiot and dookie for the first time in the mid 2000’s
you can like the bands music and not the members. i dont listen to them much because i cant stand billies fake hypocritical social wokeness and crying about trump all the time. i still like some of their songs and im still gonna see them at hella mega mainly for fob though
Kind of like Metallica, because they're a gateway for many people getting into metal/thrash metal. They will definitely be remembered for their first 5 albums. And some fans think that they haven't made a great album since And Justice For All or The Black Album. Their last 2 studio albums (excluding Lulu with Lou Reed) are pretty solid at best. I actually love Hardwired. I think that it's better than Death Magnetic in my opinion.
@@ThatGuyMofo just because they're great musicians, it doesn't make they great people. Look at Marylin Manson. His music is fantastic, but he's a douchebag. I think that Dave Mustaine of Megadeth is a great musician, but he's also a douchebag too. Truth hurts, but if you want to know the truth, you're living in your own fantasy world where everything's perfect. Nobody's perfect. Everybody makes mistakes or do terrible things. Everybody has their own flaws. We're human. What do you expect?
Regarding the third point, some of Billie's riffs can be pretty difficult despite being just power chords. I'm part of a music course where we learn six songs that we perform at the end of the course, and one of the songs on this season's setlist is Holiday (voted by me, of course), and let me tell you, that power chord riff before the solo is NOT easy, so I think that's what we're going to struggle on the most. Which is funny because the solo is piss easy
Green Day is my favorite band of all time, even though I personally couldn't stand the Trilogy or Father of All. They're my favorite band because they've gotten me into punk / alternative music at a very young age, and Dookie is my favorite record of all time. The amount of Troubled Times (no pun intended) that they've helped me through honestly amazes me, and they just seem like genuine people. That being said, I can see why other people hate them. At the end of the day, you can't please everybody, and no band is perfect. Even if Green Day puts out straight trash from here on out, I can't deny the impact that their whole discography (1990-2010) has left on my life.
Green Day remain one of my top favorite bands. I’m obviously one of their newer fans since I got into them in 2016 just before the Rev Rad cycle began, but after playing through each of their albums up to that point I was pretty impressed at not only how much material they’ve put out over the many years together but how much of that I ended up really liking (even a few of the songs on FOAMF I still enjoy to this day). I can definitely understand how they aren’t for everyone though, and some of the points being made here I can see where some of those other people are coming from.
Green Day is my all-time favorite band! A lot of the criticisms are valid and have some merit, but frankly, those issues aren’t that big of a deal to me. Yeah they use like 4 chords. Who cares? Still sounds great. Politics? Yeah, that’s what makes them punk. Overexposed? Maybe, but it’s called being popular. You like what you like, dislike what you dislike, and I respect all opinions, but no one can ever take Green Day away from me or anyone else that calls themself a fan
I'm a musician and Green Day are the band that inspired me to pick up guitar and do music full time. I love them, always will. I don't listen to them as much anymore because I feel like I have to play catchup with all these other bands, classic and new that I've not heard of. In college I struggled to play power chords, but it was Green Day that got me into playing them properly. After a Christmas gig where I played Boulevard of Broken Dreams I decided to take a step back from the band. I love them, but after a while I just became known as the Green Day guy. They're on the back burner for me, I love them to pieces and owe a lot to them. It was Holiday that made me feel like I could be a musician like that's what I want to do. The only reason I don't really listen to them anymore is because I feel so behind with other bands old and new. It's an odd angle, but that's me. The band will always creep into my music in someway but for now I've unintentionally moved away from them.
To be fair, we don't exactly go to Green Day for the biting social commentary. Billie Joe has his strengths and that isn't one of them. No problems with punk or punk-lite being political, the problem is that Green Day will lean on it too heavily at times to make up for what a song lacks elsewhere. American Idiot as an album is a musical masterpiece which overshadows the fact that its lyrical tone is pompous and overdone. Warning...not so much. Revolution Radio is kind of in between, but it's good enough to overcome the fact that lyrically they're always about four years behind the cause celebre to the point where it's just tiresome.
right on Jon, i’ve been missing this series lately! honestly i don’t even care if people hate Green Day, they’re one of my top 3 favorite bands besides Linkin Park and Bring Me the Horizon, and my favorite Pop Punk/Punk Rock band. sure, they have some stinkers/forgettable tunes (most of Father of All, some of the trilogy), but even those are still dumb fun to various degrees! PLUS Dookie, Insomniac and American Idiot are some of THE BEST ALTERNATIVE/PUNK ALBUMS OF ALL TIME.
They’ve always been one of my favorite bands and probably always will be. For the soon to be 21 years I’ve been alive I’ve always been exposed to their music in some way. I have so many good memories connected to their music from my dad playing songs from American idiot in the car on road trips to meet family when I was really young, to rediscovering my love for old nostalgic tracks and discovering parts of their discography I wasn’t previously familiar with back in 2018 when I really got into them while trying to explore and expand my music taste. I have a good list of Green Day songs that really mean a lot to me wether that is because of sentimental value or because they helped me through tough times. I’ll always be a fan.
I’d love to see a Hate It or Love It episode for The Beatles someday. I notice that in recent years, at least in certain circles, it’s become more mainstream to hate on the Beatles so I think there’d be some interesting stuff to find there.
@Lotte Yanson. My issue with The Beatles is everyone seems to think they are the greatest band of all time, they are extremely iconic, but for me Led Zeppelin is the greatest band of all time, Zeppelin even made the greatest song of all time in Stairway To Heaven. And also imo I don’t think The Beatles really became a great band until they went hippie and started to experiment. People don’t like things being shoved down their throat and the media have a tendency to well over do it. That’s why people find certain bands overrated, because the media just shove some artists and bands down your throat until you’re numb.
@@nu-metalfan2654 It doesn't help that mainstream media doesn't really go into detail on *why* they're considered so great either, although this can apply to most of the great bands from the day, but it's mostly true for The Beatles. This comes from a massive Beatle fan too, just take a look at my channel lol.
The people who hate Green Day’s complex song structures are mathcore kids No hate towards mathcore/mathrock/tech death etc. those happen to be some of my favorite subgenres of rock and metal 😂
Dance Galvin Dance isn't for me personally! I would much rather listen to Dillinger Escape Plan, American Football, Tiny Moving Parts, Dads, Converge, and Drive Like Jehu. I'd also rather listen to Death, Suffocation, Between the Buried and Me and Gojira.
This video pretty much summed up my thoughts and defenses on Green Day's critics. I think what gets to me is the "fake punk" crap. The idea that being punk is antithetical to being successful is just ridiculous. The only reason that was ever associated with punk is because punk artists like Ramones never found a way to reach a wide audience, and that's not something they chose to do. If Joey had his way, Ramones would've not only been on MTV, it would've been a *brand.* Punk rock is anti-establishment, *not* anti-mainstream. There is a world of difference between those two concepts.
I have been a massive Green Day fan since 2008 or so. They were an essentiel part during my teenage years. After a long break of not listening to them I have startet relistening to them recently and it's pure enjoynmen. I'll never get bored with or of Green Day.
For those who feel that all of Green Day's songs sound the same, I present to you the following list: Rest - 39/Smooth Who wrote Holden Caulfield - Kerplunk Longview - Dookie 86 - Insomniac Hitchin' a Ride - Nimrod Misery - Warning Are we the waiting - American Idiot Peacemaker - 21st Century Breakdown Kill the DJ - Uno! Wow! That's Loud - Dos! Dirty Rotten Bastards - Tre! Ordinary World - Revolution Radio Junkies on a High - Father of All I mean sure, you can make a case that Green Day does have a "regular" sound. But, that's only the case if you only listen to the mainstream stuff. This is a song off of each album, and the sounds could not be any different across this range. I think it shows how much they do branch out into other sounds other than their mainstream 4 power chord arrangements. And of course their music has changed. They've only been around 30+ years. And the inspiration for their music comes from their own life experiences, which has drastically changed since they were teenagers in northern California. I love that they experiment with different sounds. You can't be a successful band for this long and keep releasing the same album over and over again.
I remember seeing some video who delved into whether or not Billie Joe Armstrong was actually a good guitarist. Can't say I remember whose video it was, unfortunately, but he went on to mention that Steve Vai himself cited Billie Joe Armstrong as a good guitarist, but if nothing else, I feel like Billie probably has more technical skills than he lets on but cares more about serving the song than showing off.
Kind of like Rivers Cuomo then, apparently he deliberately kept his guitar parts simple during the Blue Album sessions for a poppier sound, but his producer overheard him shredding away
As a 13 yo teenager from Spain, I came across Green Day in a 2000's rock TV program. Clearly remember watching American idiot on TV for the first time and being absolutely blown away by what I was witnessing. They became my fav band for years on, but I've felt kind of let down lately with their recent material and can't help but feel I grew out of them. However, GD will ever be special for me.
Green Day has been my favorite band for about a decade now since I was like 11 turning 12, now I’m 21 turning 22. I love them a lot. I used to exclusively listen to them, but even as my music has broadened, they’re still at the top. Every few weeks it’s like I’m discovering more by finding some more deep cuts that are so good. I think this 1972 project could be huge and all the lil snippets sound really good, I know it’s only been like 4 five second clips with music.
I’m 24, and I’ve been a Green Day fan for nearly 20 years. I don’t care if people hate them; like you said Jon, although most of their songs are 4/5 power chords, it’s what they do with those chords that make Green Day shine. Not enough people appreciate their music/production. Especially in my two favourite Green Day albums: Nimrod and Revolution Radio Boulevard of Broken Dreams was the first song I ever learnt to play on guitar And I’m very optimistic about the upcoming ‘1972’
In 2020 I found Boulevard of Broken Dreams, its best single of all time, and felt like I found part of myself. I've already known that melody, but couldn't find it anywere, 'cos I didn't know the name. Anyway, it was a strange, but nice feeling to realize that I found it. Since this time Green Day became punk rock band number one for me...
Green Day will always have a special place in my heart, especially American Idiot, even if they were part of my TRL phase. I'll always respect them for being good at what they do.
1. Green Day 2. Sum 41 3. Yellowcard 4. The Wonder Years 5. All Time Low 6. MxPx 7. Neck Deep 8. Blink 182 9. PUP 10. Fall Out Boy 11. Good Charlotte 12. Alkaline Trio 13. Boston Manor 14. Modern Baseball 15. Saves the Day 16. My Chemical Romance 17. Joyce Manor 18. Jawbreaker 19. Taking Back Sunday 20. Waterparks 21. New Found Glory 22. Spanish Love Songs 23. A Day To Remember 24. Motion City Soundtrack 25. The Get Up Kids 26. State Champs 27. Jimmy Eat World 28. Mixtapes 29. The Starting Line 30. Go Betty Go 31. Bowling For Soup 32. All American Rejects 33. The Story So Far 34. Falling In Reverse 35. Mayday Parade 36. Say Anything 37. Chunk! No, Captain Chunk! 38. Knuckle Puck 39. Paramore 40. Unwritten Law 41. Reggie & the Full Effect 42. Less Than Jake 43. Man Overboard 44. Moose Blood 45. Transit 46. Fenix TX 47. Title Fight 48. Four Years Strong 49. Senses Fail 50. Face to Face 51. The Used 52. Relient K 53. Bayside 54. Simple Plan 55. Real Friends 56. Brand New 57. The Ataris 58. Story of the Year 59. Mest 60. Amber Pacific 61. You Had Me At Six 62. Roam 63. Hey Monday 64. Allister 65. Grayscale 66. The Weird Kids 67. Lit 68. Homegrown 69. Boys Like Girls 70. No Use for a Name 71. SR 71 72. Sugarcult 73. Midtown 74. Gob 75. Billy Talent 76. Sleeping With Sirens 77. Like Pacific 78. Autopilot Off 79. American Hi Fi 80. Pierce the Veil 81. Hit the Lights 82. Seaway 83. With Confidence 84. As It Is 85. Movements 86. Dune Rats 87. Swimmers 88. Cayetana 89. Lifetime 90. The Click Five 91. Tonight Alive 92. Fireworks 93. Wavves 94. Something Corporate 95. 5 Seconds of Summer 96. Donots 97. 1208 98. J Church 99. Goldfinger 100. Cute Is What We Aim For
This guy really goes in depth from an unbiased POV and I can respect that. At first glance I expected nothing but B.S. from this video but as it turns out this man did an excellent job and covering all the controversy in between the dotted lines, as well as pertaining to the focus and highlights we were all truly curious about. Over all this video does exactly as the title intended, it explains why people dislike the populist punk rock band that is Greenday. Love this band with all my heart and can say I can appreciate all the stigma surrounding this band that was brought up and explained in this video. Thumbs up brother! Keep up the good work
They started out as a catchy pop punk band but then their real intentions came out. If people listened to Johnny rotten, everyone would've seen through them.
Being punk rock isn't playing big shows... it is if you're good. I'm not a huge fan or anything but this whole hating on bands for being mainstream is petty at best. Being anti mainstream doesn't make you punk. It makes you jealous. To the elitists that always say they hate them for this reason, I dare you to do better. Hey, it's just power chords right? Give it a whirl.
They still can come back with a good album like this year with saviors too even though father of all to me was something that green day just wasn't as good at doing as a lot of other bands and I'm not really into indie rock of that kind anyways too much. Saviors is the definition of what they are good at, especially in the american dream is killing me and I'm glad they are going more towards their core punk sound that they've had their highest points of their career with
The only criticism I’ve heard that’s fair is the 3/4 chords argument. It’s funny because at the same time those same people will say their best work is Kerplunk through Nimrod…The albums when those chords are spammed the most😂😂
I don't like Green Day, but most of the stuff people are hating them for, many punk bands did. I mean, they are far from the first punk band to sign to the major label and I don't see no one dissing on Husker Du (and I love that band) that signed major far before Green Day.
Even though Dookie might be the better album songwriting-wise and as a whole (no bad songs at all) Insomniac is still my personal favorite from them since it's so heavy and in-your-face. Of course it affects my opinion that i'm more of a skate punk/hc punk fan than a pop punk fan. Songs like Geek Stink Breath, Bab's Uvula Who? and Walking Contradiction are simple kick-assery. Although my favorite Green Day song is actually found on Dookie, it's Longview. But i do respect the later stuff too, American Idiot is understandably considered a masterpiece, even if it's not exactly my style. I do have lot of nostalgia for it also, because it was the first GD album i bought and among my first 5 albums overall. The other four were Californication, One by One (by the Foo's), Meteora and randomly enough, Load by Metallica.
The only thing I dislike is the one interview where Billie Joe bashes nu metal by saying he didn’t like it because he didn’t understand it, and he had no intentions of understanding it. Just sounds stupid coming from a huge name of a music genre that a lot of people say the exact same things about. But that’s not a reflection of the band’s music and more of BJ; Green Day rocks and deserves all the love they get
I’ll never forget seeing them perform “Bang Bang” at the AMA’s (or some similar award show, can’t remember which) and upon its upload to social media, it was bombarded with literally tens of thousands of comments by the angry internet mob, with nearly all of them acting like they used to like Green Day (okay, sure!). It was terrifying to see. But at the same time, it also meant that there will probably never be another American Idiot. I mean, other bands may try…maybe even Green Day will try, but it’s probably not possible that it would have the immediate sweeping cultural impact that AI had without being sterilized by the checks & balances system of our current media environment. And if that must be the case, then it was a great way to close the book, as AI was such a fucking fantastic record.
Green day is like bread with salami for me, I don't love it, but I don't hate it, but I absolutely respect their past and influence for the whole music world. By the way, my favorite band is Starset, and BMI will dominate us all ...
I came to this video because I wanted to understand how anyone could hate Greenday. They are just so easy to like and are so fun to see live. The Gilman Street thing, only a bunch of gatekeeping idiots would hate them for that. I know some punks want to keep it all to themselves, hoard the music and the culture to keep it pure. Friggin cult nonsense. Greenday did great things for punk. If something is awesome, get it out there and share it. I don't have an issue with their politics. I guess some might, for sure. I probably wouldn't stick around listening to a band if they had lyrics about worshipping their Lord Trump. If a song is well written though, it's got to be pretty extremely far right lyrics before I'd stop listening to them. The simple 4 chords criticism I think just means you might not like punk rock in general. Part of what the early punks intended with their music was to simplify rock as it was becoming too prog and complicated. Punk was meant to be played by and for anyone. It didn't require musical expertise. It was about if you had something to say, you say it and you make some noise. That's punk. Aside from the 4 chord criticism being a strawman argument against Greenday anyway, if you don't like the simplicity then you probably don't like punk in general. As far as Greenday going downhill, They have always had hit and miss releases. I love Greenday but the only albums I listen to cover to cover are Dookie, Warning and American Idiot. There's great songs on all their albums (yes, there's even a few gems on Uno, Dos Tres) but they have always had this up and down quality to their releases. I would bet that people who think this way, are probably the same people who say things like Pearl's Jams only good album was Ten, Metallica's only good album was Black, Linkin Park's only good album Hybrid Theory... and so on. To me, Greenday is surprisingly fun music that is also thoughtful and well crafted in it's simplicity. Go see them live if you ever get the chance and they will blow you away! I've seen a lot of shows and they are for sure among the best performers. I don't think I can think of anyone I've seen who can engage the crowd as well as Billy Joe can.
I actually kind of think they're one of the few artists that have managed to update themselves to stay relevant for decades, without losing what made them popular in the first place. How many bands (not solo artists) can continue to stay popular for that sort of length of time continuing to bring out new music? (They're around, but far more drop out of the new music charts within a decade at most.) With a lot of Green Day songs, even if I haven't heard it before, I can usually pick it's them from the song structure, so I get why people might use it as crit, but for a lot of people that's likely why they still love them. They do actually have variation in their music making everything from punk to rock ballads. Like Last night on earth, or Time of your life has quite a different overall sound to something like Welcome to Paradise or American Idiot. (I've heard my parents humming away to Wake me when September ends, but no way they'd listen to Minority.) You can tell they're all Green Day songs, but the way they change up the songs makes it different enough to stay interesting. They've managed to keep a lot of energy in their music. I don't love all of their music (esp Father of All...) but I like a lot of it spanning a long time which is unusual for me. Definitely one of my favourite bands.
I never thought about them playing four chords. Each song has a different aspect, some are bass driven like When I Come Around. Some use mids like American Idiot. Holiday frickin' sounds like Star Wars! 21 Guns is it's own animal! Boulevard of Broken Dreams also feels original (albeit a genric chord and rhythm every punk plays!
I like a few songs by them but there's 2 reasons I dislike them as a band: 1.While I don't have an issue with their political songs, what I do have an issue with is the Billie Joe lashing out on fans who politely statedthere's people with different political opinions who enjoy their music. Cussing out your fans and telling them to stop listening to your music definitely won't convince them that your message is right, it just makes you a doucebag. 2. They are just too inconsistent with their style. I like their pop-punk and emo stuff bit they are fso ar in-between their dumb pop songs like Kill the DJ and long pretentious operas like Jesus of suburbia.
Green Day was one of the first bands I was exposed to when I was little, and I even have an American Idiot T-shirt that I wear a lot! Which is funny because I'm mostly an outsider when it comes to punk and pop punk, with Green Day, Rise Against, and Paramore being the only exceptions (pun intended) for me.
I swear straight up Punk has to be one of the most gatekeeping, snake eating it’s own tail genre out there. God forbid a band wants to aspire for than what their small label can do for them. In general a lot what probably goes through these “fan’s” minds is that they want their indie band to go nowhere and drown in obscurity so that they can inflate their own ego that they were one of the intellectuals few who knew of them or “got it”. “ I’m not like other listeners”
1. The Beatles 2. Green Day 3. The Who 4. Iron Maiden 5. The Jam 6. CCR 7. Sum 41 8. Metallica 9. Motorhead 10. The Cure 11. Judas Priest 12. The Kinks 13. Dokken 14. The Yardbirds 15. Linkin Park 16. Van Halen 17. Bad Religion 18. Black Sabbath 19. Descendents 20. Jimi Hendrix Experience 21. Yellowcard 22. Megadeth 23. Led Zeppelin 24. Lynyrd Skynyrd 25. Avenged Sevenfold 26. The Moody Blues 27. The Rolling Stones 28. Queens of the Stone Age 29. Pink Floyd 30. Aerosmith 31. Bauhaus 32. Misfits 33. Saxon 34. Sepultura 35. Soundgarden 36. ACDC 37. Death 38. Stone Temple Pilots 39. Opeth 40. Queen 41. Slayer 42. Kiss 43. Joy Division 44. The Cars 45. Motley Crue 46. Trivium 47. Dave Clark Five 48. RHCP 49. Sodom 50. Eagles 51. Stray Cats 52. The Stooges 53. Lacuna Coil 54. Ramones 55. Flammin’ Groovies 56. Genesis 57. The Animals 58. Def Leppard 59. Ratt 60. The White Stripes 61. Nirvana 62. Molly Hatchet 63. Cream 64. Mercyful Fate 65. Slipknot 66. The Donnas 67. System of a Down 68. As I Lay Dying 69. Halestorm 70. Blackfoot 71. Pixies 72. The Clash 73. The Byrds 74. Black Veil Brides 75. The Wonder Years 76. NOFX 77. Foo Fighters 78. Cheap Trick 79. Rancid 80. Rage Against the Machine 81. Weezer 82. Scorpions 83. The Runaways 84. The Offspring 85. U2 86. MxPx 87. Rise Against 88. Three Days Grace 89. All Time Low 90. Rush 91. Jonas Brothers 92. Cannibal Corpse 93. Queensryche 94. The Police 95. The Dillenger Escape Plan 96. The Pretenders 97. Artic Monkeys 98. My Chemical Romance 99. The Pretty Reckless 100. Fall Out Boy Green Day's definitely one of my all time favorite bands!
Green Day are brilliant, don't care what anyone says, there my favorite aswel. The only albums that I wasn't keen on is dos and father of all, all the other rest I'm fine with.
Idc what anyone says I love pop punk bands like Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41 etc because the music does sound fun and poppy but the lyrics are usually self deprication and humorous.
Got bored and moved on after the 90s Discovered bands like nofx, black flag, and subhumans type stuff and thought greenday were posers 😂. Teenage me wasn’t very kind. Now that I’m older I go back to albums I missed out on and can respect what they were doing in the 2000s. I feel Green Day is one of those bands where they will play what they want to play and you can either follow or move on. It’s always felt for every fan that moves on they just gain a new younger fan.
Fair criticism aside, these guys can still outperform most of the bands I've seen live. When I saw them last summer, I had compromised expectations because of their recent output's quality, the stage they're at in their career, and other considerations, but they absolutely blew me away. The energy was out of this world.
I think it's just closed minded metal heads. Either it's gotta be so heavy or they don't like it. Or they are that bitter metalhead who loved hair metal and are mad at everything 90s for ending their played out genre.
Great vid Jon. I can't thank Green Day enough , without them I wouldn't have made it this far in life. Their songs got me through some tough times. Even though Father Of All was different , I still hope the band will be back with with a better album soon
Green Day accused for being too political and also not punk is a weird somewhat contradiction. Punk bands are often not seen as being serious unless they are pretty political instead of just making catchy loser songs about being high and horny in the sun.
It's a double edged sword really. I do want to see Billie Joe as a musician mature with his work, but at the same time it's hard to take a guy primarily known in the 90s for singing about jacking off & smoking weed seriously like he's got a phD in political science. It's like consulting Jim Morrison on the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Another thing is teenage punk has a very anti-parent mindset, but with politically charged songs, they can easily fall into the "think what I think about [x] topic or you're a bad person" camp, and then they're no better than the parents they're against that wag their fingers and go "tsk tsk"
Punk Rock and political views walk together, sure that are songs in this genre that are not political, but the band always will have songs that are. Sum 41 for example, they have songs that are silly, that talk about anything and also songs that are political. This is punk rock.
I ❤️ Green Day since I was 12! I’m 23 now but will be turning 24 in May. I am still a big fan of them in my adulthood! Honestly I never get tired of their music! Even though I don’t fully believe some of the political messages in their songs, it’s still my all time favourite Rock Band! 🥁🎸🎶🎵
I've been obsessed with Green Day since American Idiot came out. I was like 13. Somehow I didn't know about them before...I'm from a real small town. And I've always been made fun of for liking them. It's so sad. Let people like their fav bands in peace.
I’ve always respected and enjoyed their music, they have always had soft, not heavy songs, since the beginning, they left the scene cause they got to big, they needed money to get different places and more equipment, they are the coolest guys ever, met them a few times and they were always super cool and just acted like themselves, I like what they have evolved into, and am so proud of them getting inducted into the HOF
Kerplunk was the first album by any band I ever owned. It shaped my musical tastes. I will always love early Green Day, 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours through Nimrod. I can honestly say that I like 95% of the songs in that album span. The rest of their music is very hit and miss with me, outside of American Idiot which is a masterpiece. And I don't even agree with their political stances. I don't think they will ever be what they were 20-30 years ago, but that's okay. There is no other band I can say I like more as a whole career is concerned.
Only thing about Green Day I don't like (and it's not hate, but indifference) is The Network. If I want to listen to DEVO, I'll listen to DEVO. I would feel the same if Mark Mothersbaugh covered "Sassafras Roots."
1. The Jam 2. Green Day 3. Bad Religion 4. Descendents 5. Sum 41 6. Misfits 7. The Stooges 8. Ramones 9. Stiff Little Fingers 10. The Clash 11. Joy Division 12. The Runaways 13. The Damned 14. NOFX 15. Adolescents 16. The Donnas 17. Rancid 18. The Offspring 19. The Exploited 20. MxPx 21. Rise Against 22. Buzzcocks 23. Sleater Kinney 24. Social Distortion 25. The Stranglers 26. Pup 27. The Spitfires 28. AFI 29. Minutemen 30. Alkaline Trio 31. Bad Brains 32. Generation X 33. The Addicts 34. Death 35. Fear 36. Sham 69 37. Anti Flag 38. Bikini Kill 39. Sex Pistols 40. Rites of Spring 41. All 42. Screeching Weasel 43. Against Me! 44. Joyce Manor 45. L7 46. The Adverts 47. The Subhumans 48. X Ray Apex 49. Guttermouth 50. Trash Boat 51. The Vibrators 52. The Queers 53. Fugazi 54. Suicidal Tendencies 55. Turnstile 56. The Vandals 57. Pennywise 58. Embrace 59. Bouncing Souls 60. Minor Threat 61. Dropkick Murphys 62. Jawbreaker 63. New York Dolls 64. 7 Year Bitch 65. Agent Orange 66. Refused 67. The Germs 68. Operation Ivy 69. X 70. Television 71. Crass 72. Discharge 73. Flogging Molly 74. GBH 75. DRI 76. The Living End 77. Dead Boys 78. Wire 79. MC 5 80. Ash 81. Millencolin 82. Blondie 83. Dag Nasty 84. Anti Nowhere League 85. 999 86. Dead Kennedys 87. The F Ups 88. The Cramps 89. The Spits 90. Regan Youth 91. Idles 92. No Motiv 93. The Saints 94. Less Than Jake 95. Reel Big Fish 96. The Muffs 97. Black Flag 98. Propagndhi 99. The Specials 100. The Dirty Nil
I generally like the band. And I think the two rock operas were kind of commentary on the American existence as a whole. One about post 9/11 disenfranchisement. Another about post- Great Recession and trying to pink up the pieces.
Good video. I thought you brought up some solid points against the general criticisms and complaints of non-fans. I've never been a huge fan of Green Day, though I by no means dislike them, as public persons or as a band. I love many of their songs and I at least like several others (though with few exceptions, I haven't paid attention since American Idiot). Admittedly I am tired of some overplayed songs like Basket Case and Boulevard, but that's not enough for me to dislike them. But for me, sometimes the vocals are grating on the ears, even on tracks I thoroughly enjoy and play frequently.
The thing I find with active Green day haters is that they'll make a big deal out of hating them then project that on to you when it comes to light you're a fan and put the spin that it's you making a big deal out of their hate Like me personally, I'm a huge Green Day fan, they're my favourite band. I'm 27 and have been/ they have been since I was like 9 or 10 and just like with everything I love or hate, if you also love then great we can talk about said thing til the cows come home and then leave again. If you don't then fine. In the case of Green Day these same kind of people project like that simply because you defend them and I only defend them because the criticisms they make, rather than just going 'they're just not for me' which I would respect, they always go cloak and dagger with the kinds of criticisms you bring up here which are easy to put down.
4:03 kind of similar to how people are trashing Star Wars right now because of the politics yet forgetting about George Lucas’ political views and how they seeped into the prequels and the original trilogy.
My Grandad actually bought me Dookie on tape, then my Mum bought me Insomniac on CD. I just about wore out that tape and while I love Dookie, Insomniac is the best album they ever made. I bought Kerplunk later then I bought Nimrod and Warning. Didn't mind some of the later stuff like 21 guns and Jesus of suburbia.
Fact is they don't use the same four chords every song. They have gone off scales such as boulevard ending, prosthetic head, and expecially the newer stuff which complicated riffs and intros and chromatic passing tones. Maybe the earlier stuff, but not even because no one knows completely broke that rule..
I used to go to Gilman St. in Berkeley at the same time that they used to play there. The two years I went, 90-91, they were total assholes and I don't remember them hanging out before or after shows. They would always open for the bands that I wanted to see there so I had to suffer through them a few times. They were way more pop than punk. The music they played sounded safe and boring. I like my punk music to feel a bit urgent.
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Green Day was one of my favorite bands for several years. Eventually, I got severely burned out (no pun intended) on their music for several reasons. I was listening to them way too much for my own good, and I played in a band that covered them almost exclusively. After not listening to them for about 3-4 years, I started listening to them again last spring, and fell in love with their music all over again. I also got to see them on the Hella Mega tour last year, and it was incredible. I had wanted to see them live for years. Side note: Insomniac is actually my favorite Green Day album. I love how dark and heavy it is compared to Dookie.
I just missed the hella mega tour in Dallas and I don’t ever think I’ve been as disappointed in my self as i was then
I love coming back to a band or album after not having listened to it for a long time. It’s like re discovering your love for something you might have forgotten how much you used to love.
@@silh3345 It really is. It's a great feeling.
@@thatringinginyourears3955 I wasn't planning on going at first, because the nearest date was at least four hours away, and required a hotel, but my bandmates and I made a road trip out of it.
Insomniac is my favorite too!
Green Day’s existence is forever validated for making Dookie and American Idiot. I don’t care how many Father of All or trilogy tier albums they make. Those two albums are iconic af at this point.
Trilogy is great imo
@@RJIS That trilogy hurts the soul, Dookie and American Idiot is where its at 👍
Father of All wasn't even bad, people just hate it because it's different
Im a big fan of the offspring rage against the machine bad religion etc and they all have left their impactful and delightfully loud and clear albums by only a couple or a stash green day is no different.
@@AxioChrono if "Father of All ..." was made by some random alt-pop band, it would be good. but for Green Day standard, that album sucks donkey's hairy balls
People who hate Green Day for "losing their punk-rock roots" like to conveniently forget that Billie Joe has kept the Gilman Street building from being foreclosed on by buying the property. No, Seriously, look it up!
Also, 'ONE FUCKING MINUTE'
Who’s cares judge the music on the quality of the music
losing? THEY NEVER WERE THEY PUNK!
And then they got banned for being in a major label dude. So fuck Green Day
Green Day was the gateway for so many people into punk rock/pop punk. I think their legacy is absolutely secure as one of rock music’s all time greats. I saw them at the Hella Mega Tour in August and they were absolutely phenomenal. Billie Joe has a level of charisma that hardly anyone can match.
They were my gateway into rock music in general. I was your average kid listening to radio hits until i heard american idiot and dookie for the first time in the mid 2000’s
you can like the bands music and not the members. i dont listen to them much because i cant stand billies fake hypocritical social wokeness and crying about trump all the time. i still like some of their songs and im still gonna see them at hella mega mainly for fob though
Kind of like Metallica, because they're a gateway for many people getting into metal/thrash metal. They will definitely be remembered for their first 5 albums. And some fans think that they haven't made a great album since And Justice For All or The Black Album. Their last 2 studio albums (excluding Lulu with Lou Reed) are pretty solid at best. I actually love Hardwired. I think that it's better than Death Magnetic in my opinion.
@@ThatGuyMofo just because they're great musicians, it doesn't make they great people. Look at Marylin Manson. His music is fantastic, but he's a douchebag. I think that Dave Mustaine of Megadeth is a great musician, but he's also a douchebag too. Truth hurts, but if you want to know the truth, you're living in your own fantasy world where everything's perfect. Nobody's perfect. Everybody makes mistakes or do terrible things. Everybody has their own flaws. We're human. What do you expect?
@@takodabostwick8507 you literally just agreed with my point but tried to be up your own arse and completely wrong 🤦🏻♂️
Regarding the third point, some of Billie's riffs can be pretty difficult despite being just power chords. I'm part of a music course where we learn six songs that we perform at the end of the course, and one of the songs on this season's setlist is Holiday (voted by me, of course), and let me tell you, that power chord riff before the solo is NOT easy, so I think that's what we're going to struggle on the most. Which is funny because the solo is piss easy
You'll get there :)
the power chord riff intro is actually pretty easy but for a beginner it might not be honestly though
Holiday is so fun to play
Hard to believe Billie Joe just turned fifty.
If you're shocked at this Google Jim Carreys age
They are fifty years old kids bro.
If he cut out the makeup and hair dye, it wouldn't be so crazy to imagine.
Green Day is my favorite band of all time, even though I personally couldn't stand the Trilogy or Father of All. They're my favorite band because they've gotten me into punk / alternative music at a very young age, and Dookie is my favorite record of all time. The amount of Troubled Times (no pun intended) that they've helped me through honestly amazes me, and they just seem like genuine people. That being said, I can see why other people hate them. At the end of the day, you can't please everybody, and no band is perfect. Even if Green Day puts out straight trash from here on out, I can't deny the impact that their whole discography (1990-2010) has left on my life.
They are emo shit
Green Day remain one of my top favorite bands. I’m obviously one of their newer fans since I got into them in 2016 just before the Rev Rad cycle began, but after playing through each of their albums up to that point I was pretty impressed at not only how much material they’ve put out over the many years together but how much of that I ended up really liking (even a few of the songs on FOAMF I still enjoy to this day).
I can definitely understand how they aren’t for everyone though, and some of the points being made here I can see where some of those other people are coming from.
Green Day is my all-time favorite band! A lot of the criticisms are valid and have some merit, but frankly, those issues aren’t that big of a deal to me. Yeah they use like 4 chords. Who cares? Still sounds great. Politics? Yeah, that’s what makes them punk. Overexposed? Maybe, but it’s called being popular. You like what you like, dislike what you dislike, and I respect all opinions, but no one can ever take Green Day away from me or anyone else that calls themself a fan
I'm a musician and Green Day are the band that inspired me to pick up guitar and do music full time. I love them, always will. I don't listen to them as much anymore because I feel like I have to play catchup with all these other bands, classic and new that I've not heard of.
In college I struggled to play power chords, but it was Green Day that got me into playing them properly. After a Christmas gig where I played Boulevard of Broken Dreams I decided to take a step back from the band. I love them, but after a while I just became known as the Green Day guy. They're on the back burner for me, I love them to pieces and owe a lot to them. It was Holiday that made me feel like I could be a musician like that's what I want to do. The only reason I don't really listen to them anymore is because I feel so behind with other bands old and new. It's an odd angle, but that's me. The band will always creep into my music in someway but for now I've unintentionally moved away from them.
To be fair, we don't exactly go to Green Day for the biting social commentary. Billie Joe has his strengths and that isn't one of them. No problems with punk or punk-lite being political, the problem is that Green Day will lean on it too heavily at times to make up for what a song lacks elsewhere. American Idiot as an album is a musical masterpiece which overshadows the fact that its lyrical tone is pompous and overdone. Warning...not so much. Revolution Radio is kind of in between, but it's good enough to overcome the fact that lyrically they're always about four years behind the cause celebre to the point where it's just tiresome.
4 chords(to choke upon)
Hah, Bullet for my valentine never dies - 4 words to choke upon LOOK AT ME NOW
Even if people hate Green Day, I will still be here happily listening to them :)
Yo , I think I saw you in Green Day Productions comment section
@@everstar2440 heck yeah you did man ✌🏻✌🏻
Same :))
right on Jon, i’ve been missing this series lately! honestly i don’t even care if people hate Green Day, they’re one of my top 3 favorite bands besides Linkin Park and Bring Me the Horizon, and my favorite Pop Punk/Punk Rock band. sure, they have some stinkers/forgettable tunes (most of Father of All, some of the trilogy), but even those are still dumb fun to various degrees!
PLUS Dookie, Insomniac and American Idiot are some of THE BEST ALTERNATIVE/PUNK ALBUMS OF ALL TIME.
You have a good list of bands there I also like BMTH and LP and green day you should give the amity affection a listen
I like Nimrod and Warning, Dookie and Insomniac, including American Idiot
They’ve always been one of my favorite bands and probably always will be. For the soon to be 21 years I’ve been alive I’ve always been exposed to their music in some way. I have so many good memories connected to their music from my dad playing songs from American idiot in the car on road trips to meet family when I was really young, to rediscovering my love for old nostalgic tracks and discovering parts of their discography I wasn’t previously familiar with back in 2018 when I really got into them while trying to explore and expand my music taste. I have a good list of Green Day songs that really mean a lot to me wether that is because of sentimental value or because they helped me through tough times. I’ll always be a fan.
I’d love to see a Hate It or Love It episode for The Beatles someday. I notice that in recent years, at least in certain circles, it’s become more mainstream to hate on the Beatles so I think there’d be some interesting stuff to find there.
That would be very interesting! I wouldn't mind seeing an episode for The Beatle like that!
@Lotte Yanson. My issue with The Beatles is everyone seems to think they are the greatest band of all time, they are extremely iconic, but for me Led Zeppelin is the greatest band of all time, Zeppelin even made the greatest song of all time in Stairway To Heaven. And also imo I don’t think The Beatles really became a great band until they went hippie and started to experiment.
People don’t like things being shoved down their throat and the media have a tendency to well over do it. That’s why people find certain bands overrated, because the media just shove some artists and bands down your throat until you’re numb.
@@nu-metalfan2654 It doesn't help that mainstream media doesn't really go into detail on *why* they're considered so great either, although this can apply to most of the great bands from the day, but it's mostly true for The Beatles. This comes from a massive Beatle fan too, just take a look at my channel lol.
The people who hate Green Day’s complex song structures are mathcore kids
No hate towards mathcore/mathrock/tech death etc. those happen to be some of my favorite subgenres of rock and metal 😂
Dance Galvin Dance isn't for me personally! I would much rather listen to Dillinger Escape Plan, American Football, Tiny Moving Parts, Dads, Converge, and Drive Like Jehu. I'd also rather listen to Death, Suffocation, Between the Buried and Me and Gojira.
@@takodabostwick8507 ah, those bands are cool, my favorites are normajean, bring me the horizon, linkin park, Ice nine kills, killswitch engage etc.
This video pretty much summed up my thoughts and defenses on Green Day's critics. I think what gets to me is the "fake punk" crap. The idea that being punk is antithetical to being successful is just ridiculous. The only reason that was ever associated with punk is because punk artists like Ramones never found a way to reach a wide audience, and that's not something they chose to do. If Joey had his way, Ramones would've not only been on MTV, it would've been a *brand.* Punk rock is anti-establishment, *not* anti-mainstream. There is a world of difference between those two concepts.
I have been a massive Green Day fan since 2008 or so. They were an essentiel part during my teenage years. After a long break of not listening to them I have startet relistening to them recently and it's pure enjoynmen. I'll never get bored with or of Green Day.
For those who feel that all of Green Day's songs sound the same, I present to you the following list:
Rest - 39/Smooth
Who wrote Holden Caulfield - Kerplunk
Longview - Dookie
86 - Insomniac
Hitchin' a Ride - Nimrod
Misery - Warning
Are we the waiting - American Idiot
Peacemaker - 21st Century Breakdown
Kill the DJ - Uno!
Wow! That's Loud - Dos!
Dirty Rotten Bastards - Tre!
Ordinary World - Revolution Radio
Junkies on a High - Father of All
I mean sure, you can make a case that Green Day does have a "regular" sound. But, that's only the case if you only listen to the mainstream stuff. This is a song off of each album, and the sounds could not be any different across this range. I think it shows how much they do branch out into other sounds other than their mainstream 4 power chord arrangements.
And of course their music has changed. They've only been around 30+ years. And the inspiration for their music comes from their own life experiences, which has drastically changed since they were teenagers in northern California. I love that they experiment with different sounds. You can't be a successful band for this long and keep releasing the same album over and over again.
He’s used many of the same chord progression several times with many songs but his way with vocal Melodies makes up for it for sure!
I remember seeing some video who delved into whether or not Billie Joe Armstrong was actually a good guitarist. Can't say I remember whose video it was, unfortunately, but he went on to mention that Steve Vai himself cited Billie Joe Armstrong as a good guitarist, but if nothing else, I feel like Billie probably has more technical skills than he lets on but cares more about serving the song than showing off.
Agreed! Solos on the Trilogy and their first two albums are the best!
Kind of like Rivers Cuomo then, apparently he deliberately kept his guitar parts simple during the Blue Album sessions for a poppier sound, but his producer overheard him shredding away
As a 13 yo teenager from Spain, I came across Green Day in a 2000's rock TV program. Clearly remember watching American idiot on TV for the first time and being absolutely blown away by what I was witnessing. They became my fav band for years on, but I've felt kind of let down lately with their recent material and can't help but feel I grew out of them. However, GD will ever be special for me.
Green Day has been my favorite band for about a decade now since I was like 11 turning 12, now I’m 21 turning 22. I love them a lot. I used to exclusively listen to them, but even as my music has broadened, they’re still at the top. Every few weeks it’s like I’m discovering more by finding some more deep cuts that are so good. I think this 1972 project could be huge and all the lil snippets sound really good, I know it’s only been like 4 five second clips with music.
I’m 24, and I’ve been a Green Day fan for nearly 20 years. I don’t care if people hate them; like you said Jon, although most of their songs are 4/5 power chords, it’s what they do with those chords that make Green Day shine. Not enough people appreciate their music/production. Especially in my two favourite Green Day albums: Nimrod and Revolution Radio
Boulevard of Broken Dreams was the first song I ever learnt to play on guitar
And I’m very optimistic about the upcoming ‘1972’
In 2020 I found Boulevard of Broken Dreams, its best single of all time, and felt like I found part of myself. I've already known that melody, but couldn't find it anywere, 'cos I didn't know the name. Anyway, it was a strange, but nice feeling to realize that I found it. Since this time Green Day became punk rock band number one for me...
Green Day will always have a special place in my heart, especially American Idiot, even if they were part of my TRL phase. I'll always respect them for being good at what they do.
1. Green Day
2. Sum 41
3. Yellowcard
4. The Wonder Years
5. All Time Low
6. MxPx
7. Neck Deep
8. Blink 182
9. PUP
10. Fall Out Boy
11. Good Charlotte
12. Alkaline Trio
13. Boston Manor
14. Modern Baseball
15. Saves the Day
16. My Chemical Romance
17. Joyce Manor
18. Jawbreaker
19. Taking Back Sunday
20. Waterparks
21. New Found Glory
22. Spanish Love Songs
23. A Day To Remember
24. Motion City Soundtrack
25. The Get Up Kids
26. State Champs
27. Jimmy Eat World
28. Mixtapes
29. The Starting Line
30. Go Betty Go
31. Bowling For Soup
32. All American Rejects
33. The Story So Far
34. Falling In Reverse
35. Mayday Parade
36. Say Anything
37. Chunk! No, Captain Chunk!
38. Knuckle Puck
39. Paramore
40. Unwritten Law
41. Reggie & the Full Effect
42. Less Than Jake
43. Man Overboard
44. Moose Blood
45. Transit
46. Fenix TX
47. Title Fight
48. Four Years Strong
49. Senses Fail
50. Face to Face
51. The Used
52. Relient K
53. Bayside
54. Simple Plan
55. Real Friends
56. Brand New
57. The Ataris
58. Story of the Year
59. Mest
60. Amber Pacific
61. You Had Me At Six
62. Roam
63. Hey Monday
64. Allister
65. Grayscale
66. The Weird Kids
67. Lit
68. Homegrown
69. Boys Like Girls
70. No Use for a Name
71. SR 71
72. Sugarcult
73. Midtown
74. Gob
75. Billy Talent
76. Sleeping With Sirens
77. Like Pacific
78. Autopilot Off
79. American Hi Fi
80. Pierce the Veil
81. Hit the Lights
82. Seaway
83. With Confidence
84. As It Is
85. Movements
86. Dune Rats
87. Swimmers
88. Cayetana
89. Lifetime
90. The Click Five
91. Tonight Alive
92. Fireworks
93. Wavves
94. Something Corporate
95. 5 Seconds of Summer
96. Donots
97. 1208
98. J Church
99. Goldfinger
100. Cute Is What We Aim For
This guy really goes in depth from an unbiased POV and I can respect that. At first glance I expected nothing but B.S. from this video but as it turns out this man did an excellent job and covering all the controversy in between the dotted lines, as well as pertaining to the focus and highlights we were all truly curious about. Over all this video does exactly as the title intended, it explains why people dislike the populist punk rock band that is Greenday. Love this band with all my heart and can say I can appreciate all the stigma surrounding this band that was brought up and explained in this video. Thumbs up brother! Keep up the good work
How do ppl hate greenday but like mgk?
Cause they’re dumb.
probably because they count MGK as *Emo* and *edgy* … yeah, sure, fake emo if you wanna call him that even..
The world has gone mad I tell ya..MAD!!!
I don’t even really hate MGK that much (at least not his pop punk stuff) and I can’t help but wonder this too.
They started out as a catchy pop punk band but then their real intentions came out. If people listened to Johnny rotten, everyone would've seen through them.
Doesn’t matter what people “think” of them. That has no consequence to their talent or fame.
Being punk rock isn't playing big shows... it is if you're good. I'm not a huge fan or anything but this whole hating on bands for being mainstream is petty at best. Being anti mainstream doesn't make you punk. It makes you jealous. To the elitists that always say they hate them for this reason, I dare you to do better. Hey, it's just power chords right? Give it a whirl.
They’re also my favorite band, but I understand why people don’t like them
Green Day is your favorite band and your profile pic is from the best Queens of the Stone Age? I see you’re well cultured 🤘🏻
Green Day was just high school music
They still can come back with a good album like this year with saviors too even though father of all to me was something that green day just wasn't as good at doing as a lot of other bands and I'm not really into indie rock of that kind anyways too much. Saviors is the definition of what they are good at, especially in the american dream is killing me and I'm glad they are going more towards their core punk sound that they've had their highest points of their career with
The only criticism I’ve heard that’s fair is the 3/4 chords argument. It’s funny because at the same time those same people will say their best work is Kerplunk through Nimrod…The albums when those chords are spammed the most😂😂
I think the songs that have little complexity with chords have an interesting arrangment to make up for it.
Green Day are also my favorite band. Saw them play SLC in 2017 and it was definitely the best, most fun and energetic show I've ever seen.
I’d just finished watching another video right as this one was posted. Perfect timing
I don't like Green Day, but most of the stuff people are hating them for, many punk bands did. I mean, they are far from the first punk band to sign to the major label and I don't see no one dissing on Husker Du (and I love that band) that signed major far before Green Day.
Green Day will forever be one of the most important band for me. My first concert and the band that got me into rock.
Even though Dookie might be the better album songwriting-wise and as a whole (no bad songs at all) Insomniac is still my personal favorite from them since it's so heavy and in-your-face. Of course it affects my opinion that i'm more of a skate punk/hc punk fan than a pop punk fan.
Songs like Geek Stink Breath, Bab's Uvula Who? and Walking Contradiction are simple kick-assery. Although my favorite Green Day song is actually found on Dookie, it's Longview.
But i do respect the later stuff too, American Idiot is understandably considered a masterpiece, even if it's not exactly my style. I do have lot of nostalgia for it also, because it was the first GD album i bought and among my first 5 albums overall. The other four were Californication, One by One (by the Foo's), Meteora and randomly enough, Load by Metallica.
The only thing I dislike is the one interview where Billie Joe bashes nu metal by saying he didn’t like it because he didn’t understand it, and he had no intentions of understanding it. Just sounds stupid coming from a huge name of a music genre that a lot of people say the exact same things about. But that’s not a reflection of the band’s music and more of BJ; Green Day rocks and deserves all the love they get
I’ll never forget seeing them perform “Bang Bang” at the AMA’s (or some similar award show, can’t remember which) and upon its upload to social media, it was bombarded with literally tens of thousands of comments by the angry internet mob, with nearly all of them acting like they used to like Green Day (okay, sure!). It was terrifying to see. But at the same time, it also meant that there will probably never be another American Idiot. I mean, other bands may try…maybe even Green Day will try, but it’s probably not possible that it would have the immediate sweeping cultural impact that AI had without being sterilized by the checks & balances system of our current media environment. And if that must be the case, then it was a great way to close the book, as AI was such a fucking fantastic record.
Green day is like bread with salami for me, I don't love it, but I don't hate it, but I absolutely respect their past and influence for the whole music world. By the way, my favorite band is Starset, and BMI will dominate us all ...
Body mass index?
I came to this video because I wanted to understand how anyone could hate Greenday. They are just so easy to like and are so fun to see live.
The Gilman Street thing, only a bunch of gatekeeping idiots would hate them for that. I know some punks want to keep it all to themselves, hoard the music and the culture to keep it pure. Friggin cult nonsense. Greenday did great things for punk. If something is awesome, get it out there and share it.
I don't have an issue with their politics. I guess some might, for sure. I probably wouldn't stick around listening to a band if they had lyrics about worshipping their Lord Trump. If a song is well written though, it's got to be pretty extremely far right lyrics before I'd stop listening to them.
The simple 4 chords criticism I think just means you might not like punk rock in general. Part of what the early punks intended with their music was to simplify rock as it was becoming too prog and complicated. Punk was meant to be played by and for anyone. It didn't require musical expertise. It was about if you had something to say, you say it and you make some noise. That's punk. Aside from the 4 chord criticism being a strawman argument against Greenday anyway, if you don't like the simplicity then you probably don't like punk in general.
As far as Greenday going downhill, They have always had hit and miss releases. I love Greenday but the only albums I listen to cover to cover are Dookie, Warning and American Idiot. There's great songs on all their albums (yes, there's even a few gems on Uno, Dos Tres) but they have always had this up and down quality to their releases. I would bet that people who think this way, are probably the same people who say things like Pearl's Jams only good album was Ten, Metallica's only good album was Black, Linkin Park's only good album Hybrid Theory... and so on.
To me, Greenday is surprisingly fun music that is also thoughtful and well crafted in it's simplicity. Go see them live if you ever get the chance and they will blow you away! I've seen a lot of shows and they are for sure among the best performers. I don't think I can think of anyone I've seen who can engage the crowd as well as Billy Joe can.
I actually kind of think they're one of the few artists that have managed to update themselves to stay relevant for decades, without losing what made them popular in the first place. How many bands (not solo artists) can continue to stay popular for that sort of length of time continuing to bring out new music? (They're around, but far more drop out of the new music charts within a decade at most.) With a lot of Green Day songs, even if I haven't heard it before, I can usually pick it's them from the song structure, so I get why people might use it as crit, but for a lot of people that's likely why they still love them. They do actually have variation in their music making everything from punk to rock ballads. Like Last night on earth, or Time of your life has quite a different overall sound to something like Welcome to Paradise or American Idiot. (I've heard my parents humming away to Wake me when September ends, but no way they'd listen to Minority.) You can tell they're all Green Day songs, but the way they change up the songs makes it different enough to stay interesting. They've managed to keep a lot of energy in their music. I don't love all of their music (esp Father of All...) but I like a lot of it spanning a long time which is unusual for me. Definitely one of my favourite bands.
I don't hate them. I like a few songs.....but they will always be rock music for 12 year olds to me.
Avenged Sevenfold would be a good band to cover for this series
Yes I agree. If they drop this year it would be good to explore
1) Not "metal" enough
2) Went downhill after Nightmare
3) M Shadows' voice
Those are three reasons I could possibly think of
@@iliketrains3495 pretty solid reasons!
I really like the bullet for my valentine reference lol
Hahaha was wondering if anyone would catch that
I never thought about them playing four chords. Each song has a different aspect, some are bass driven like When I Come Around. Some use mids like American Idiot. Holiday frickin' sounds like Star Wars! 21 Guns is it's own animal! Boulevard of Broken Dreams also feels original (albeit a genric chord and rhythm every punk plays!
Green Day is the reason I picked up guitar
I like a few songs by them but there's 2 reasons I dislike them as a band:
1.While I don't have an issue with their political songs, what I do have an issue with is the Billie Joe lashing out on fans who politely statedthere's people with different political opinions who enjoy their music. Cussing out your fans and telling them to stop listening to your music definitely won't convince them that your message is right, it just makes you a doucebag.
2. They are just too inconsistent with their style. I like their pop-punk and emo stuff bit they are fso ar in-between their dumb pop songs like Kill the DJ and long pretentious operas like Jesus of suburbia.
Green Day was one of the first bands I was exposed to when I was little, and I even have an American Idiot T-shirt that I wear a lot! Which is funny because I'm mostly an outsider when it comes to punk and pop punk, with Green Day, Rise Against, and Paramore being the only exceptions (pun intended) for me.
Too wimpy for me. When ever I hear, do you have the time to listen to me whine, I say no and immediately change the radio channel.
I swear straight up Punk has to be one of the most gatekeeping, snake eating it’s own tail genre out there. God forbid a band wants to aspire for than what their small label can do for them.
In general a lot what probably goes through these “fan’s” minds is that they want their indie band to go nowhere and drown in obscurity so that they can inflate their own ego that they were one of the intellectuals few who knew of them or “got it”.
“ I’m not like other listeners”
1. The Beatles
2. Green Day
3. The Who
4. Iron Maiden
5. The Jam
6. CCR
7. Sum 41
8. Metallica
9. Motorhead
10. The Cure
11. Judas Priest
12. The Kinks
13. Dokken
14. The Yardbirds
15. Linkin Park
16. Van Halen
17. Bad Religion
18. Black Sabbath
19. Descendents
20. Jimi Hendrix Experience
21. Yellowcard
22. Megadeth
23. Led Zeppelin
24. Lynyrd Skynyrd
25. Avenged Sevenfold
26. The Moody Blues
27. The Rolling Stones
28. Queens of the Stone Age
29. Pink Floyd
30. Aerosmith
31. Bauhaus
32. Misfits
33. Saxon
34. Sepultura
35. Soundgarden
36. ACDC
37. Death
38. Stone Temple Pilots
39. Opeth
40. Queen
41. Slayer
42. Kiss
43. Joy Division
44. The Cars
45. Motley Crue
46. Trivium
47. Dave Clark Five
48. RHCP
49. Sodom
50. Eagles
51. Stray Cats
52. The Stooges
53. Lacuna Coil
54. Ramones
55. Flammin’ Groovies
56. Genesis
57. The Animals
58. Def Leppard
59. Ratt
60. The White Stripes
61. Nirvana
62. Molly Hatchet
63. Cream
64. Mercyful Fate
65. Slipknot
66. The Donnas
67. System of a Down
68. As I Lay Dying
69. Halestorm
70. Blackfoot
71. Pixies
72. The Clash
73. The Byrds
74. Black Veil Brides
75. The Wonder Years
76. NOFX
77. Foo Fighters
78. Cheap Trick
79. Rancid
80. Rage Against the Machine
81. Weezer
82. Scorpions
83. The Runaways
84. The Offspring
85. U2
86. MxPx
87. Rise Against
88. Three Days Grace
89. All Time Low
90. Rush
91. Jonas Brothers
92. Cannibal Corpse
93. Queensryche
94. The Police
95. The Dillenger Escape Plan
96. The Pretenders
97. Artic Monkeys
98. My Chemical Romance
99. The Pretty Reckless
100. Fall Out Boy
Green Day's definitely one of my all time favorite bands!
Green Day are brilliant, don't care what anyone says, there my favorite aswel. The only albums that I wasn't keen on is dos and father of all, all the other rest I'm fine with.
Idc what anyone says I love pop punk bands like Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41 etc because the music does sound fun and poppy but the lyrics are usually self deprication and humorous.
I'm heading to see them in Dublin in June it's going to be my first concert. Can't wait 🤘🎸
Got bored and moved on after the 90s Discovered bands like nofx, black flag, and subhumans type stuff and thought greenday were posers 😂. Teenage me wasn’t very kind. Now that I’m older I go back to albums I missed out on and can respect what they were doing in the 2000s. I feel Green Day is one of those bands where they will play what they want to play and you can either follow or move on. It’s always felt for every fan that moves on they just gain a new younger fan.
i called green day a punk band on twitter and a bunch of boomers got mad at me lmao. stay mad.
Fair criticism aside, these guys can still outperform most of the bands I've seen live. When I saw them last summer, I had compromised expectations because of their recent output's quality, the stage they're at in their career, and other considerations, but they absolutely blew me away. The energy was out of this world.
I will forever love green day, they got me into music and inspired me to start playing music myself, but ngl I don't like much they've done since 21CB
I think it's just closed minded metal heads. Either it's gotta be so heavy or they don't like it. Or they are that bitter metalhead who loved hair metal and are mad at everything 90s for ending their played out genre.
They were the band that got me into punk rock/pop punk and I still love the old stuff but their recent stuff blows. I liked Revolution Radio though
Rev Radio has Forever Now on it, which I happen to think is a stellar moment from Green Day's entire career.
Green day ain't punk rock. They're a pop band!
You’re wrong.
@@Meum46 They are pop punk. Always have been. More pop than punk.
@@EMVelez No.
@@Meum46 lmao. Okay. I guess you’re 12 years old then. No one in their right mind actually considers Green Day a punk band.
@@EMVelez Ok bucko. Shut up.
I get that this is 2 years later.
Green Day shredded in Denver last night!
Linda Lindas, Rancid and Smashing Pumpkins also fucking slayed!
Great vid Jon. I can't thank Green Day enough , without them I wouldn't have made it this far in life. Their songs got me through some tough times. Even though Father Of All was different , I still hope the band will be back with with a better album soon
The greatest band of all time will never be hated by any SANE mind.
I guess I’m insane
@@insidetheuniverse1 Dangerously So
Green Day accused for being too political and also not punk is a weird somewhat contradiction. Punk bands are often not seen as being serious unless they are pretty political instead of just making catchy loser songs about being high and horny in the sun.
It's a double edged sword really. I do want to see Billie Joe as a musician mature with his work, but at the same time it's hard to take a guy primarily known in the 90s for singing about jacking off & smoking weed seriously like he's got a phD in political science. It's like consulting Jim Morrison on the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Another thing is teenage punk has a very anti-parent mindset, but with politically charged songs, they can easily fall into the "think what I think about [x] topic or you're a bad person" camp, and then they're no better than the parents they're against that wag their fingers and go "tsk tsk"
Punk Rock and political views walk together, sure that are songs in this genre that are not political, but the band always will have songs that are. Sum 41 for example, they have songs that are silly, that talk about anything and also songs that are political. This is punk rock.
I ❤️ Green Day since I was 12! I’m 23 now but will be turning 24 in May. I am still a big fan of them in my adulthood! Honestly I never get tired of their music! Even though I don’t fully believe some of the political messages in their songs, it’s still my all time favourite Rock Band! 🥁🎸🎶🎵
I've been obsessed with Green Day since American Idiot came out. I was like 13. Somehow I didn't know about them before...I'm from a real small town. And I've always been made fun of for liking them. It's so sad. Let people like their fav bands in peace.
I’ve always respected and enjoyed their music, they have always had soft, not heavy songs, since the beginning, they left the scene cause they got to big, they needed money to get different places and more equipment, they are the coolest guys ever, met them a few times and they were always super cool and just acted like themselves, I like what they have evolved into, and am so proud of them getting inducted into the HOF
The iHeartRadio meltdown might be funny, but I’ve always seen that as proof that Green Day never truly abandoned their punk roots.
I would probably listen to Green Day more if they weren't so repetitive. I'm also not a huge pop punk fan.
Haven't you mentioned those same reasons before in an old video?
Always been a favorite band of mine. I didn't mind Father Of All, and they keep teasing a new album and I'm always excited for new Green Day!
They were a blast to see at the Hella Mega Tour this summer!!!
Kerplunk was the first album by any band I ever owned. It shaped my musical tastes. I will always love early Green Day, 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours through Nimrod. I can honestly say that I like 95% of the songs in that album span. The rest of their music is very hit and miss with me, outside of American Idiot which is a masterpiece. And I don't even agree with their political stances. I don't think they will ever be what they were 20-30 years ago, but that's okay. There is no other band I can say I like more as a whole career is concerned.
Only thing about Green Day I don't like (and it's not hate, but indifference) is The Network. If I want to listen to DEVO, I'll listen to DEVO. I would feel the same if Mark Mothersbaugh covered "Sassafras Roots."
@ARTV Have you ever heard Crimpshrine? I feel like you would be right into them.
I love green day..... I don't care if the whole F'kin world hates them, I'll still listen to them.
One of the most overrated bands of all time. I will never understand why people like Green Day.
Alternate title: 5 reasons why people are WRONG!
The fact that my favorite bands have members about 40-50 years of old is insane
1. The Jam
2. Green Day
3. Bad Religion
4. Descendents
5. Sum 41
6. Misfits
7. The Stooges
8. Ramones
9. Stiff Little Fingers
10. The Clash
11. Joy Division
12. The Runaways
13. The Damned
14. NOFX
15. Adolescents
16. The Donnas
17. Rancid
18. The Offspring
19. The Exploited
20. MxPx
21. Rise Against
22. Buzzcocks
23. Sleater Kinney
24. Social Distortion
25. The Stranglers
26. Pup
27. The Spitfires
28. AFI
29. Minutemen
30. Alkaline Trio
31. Bad Brains
32. Generation X
33. The Addicts
34. Death
35. Fear
36. Sham 69
37. Anti Flag
38. Bikini Kill
39. Sex Pistols
40. Rites of Spring
41. All
42. Screeching Weasel
43. Against Me!
44. Joyce Manor
45. L7
46. The Adverts
47. The Subhumans
48. X Ray Apex
49. Guttermouth
50. Trash Boat
51. The Vibrators
52. The Queers
53. Fugazi
54. Suicidal Tendencies
55. Turnstile
56. The Vandals
57. Pennywise
58. Embrace
59. Bouncing Souls
60. Minor Threat
61. Dropkick Murphys
62. Jawbreaker
63. New York Dolls
64. 7 Year Bitch
65. Agent Orange
66. Refused
67. The Germs
68. Operation Ivy
69. X
70. Television
71. Crass
72. Discharge
73. Flogging Molly
74. GBH
75. DRI
76. The Living End
77. Dead Boys
78. Wire
79. MC 5
80. Ash
81. Millencolin
82. Blondie
83. Dag Nasty
84. Anti Nowhere League
85. 999
86. Dead Kennedys
87. The F Ups
88. The Cramps
89. The Spits
90. Regan Youth
91. Idles
92. No Motiv
93. The Saints
94. Less Than Jake
95. Reel Big Fish
96. The Muffs
97. Black Flag
98. Propagndhi
99. The Specials
100. The Dirty Nil
I generally like the band. And I think the two rock operas were kind of commentary on the American existence as a whole. One about post 9/11 disenfranchisement. Another about post- Great Recession and trying to pink up the pieces.
Good video. I thought you brought up some solid points against the general criticisms and complaints of non-fans.
I've never been a huge fan of Green Day, though I by no means dislike them, as public persons or as a band. I love many of their songs and I at least like several others (though with few exceptions, I haven't paid attention since American Idiot). Admittedly I am tired of some overplayed songs like Basket Case and Boulevard, but that's not enough for me to dislike them.
But for me, sometimes the vocals are grating on the ears, even on tracks I thoroughly enjoy and play frequently.
Still my fav band, even tho I dislike some albums
The thing I find with active Green day haters is that they'll make a big deal out of hating them then project that on to you when it comes to light you're a fan and put the spin that it's you making a big deal out of their hate Like me personally, I'm a huge Green Day fan, they're my favourite band. I'm 27 and have been/ they have been since I was like 9 or 10 and just like with everything I love or hate, if you also love then great we can talk about said thing til the cows come home and then leave again. If you don't then fine. In the case of Green Day these same kind of people project like that simply because you defend them and I only defend them because the criticisms they make, rather than just going 'they're just not for me' which I would respect, they always go cloak and dagger with the kinds of criticisms you bring up here which are easy to put down.
Can you do a video on why people hate Blink 182 with Matt Skiba? I feel he gets a lot of unnecessary hate just because he isn't Tom
4:03 kind of similar to how people are trashing Star Wars right now because of the politics yet forgetting about George Lucas’ political views and how they seeped into the prequels and the original trilogy.
My Grandad actually bought me Dookie on tape, then my Mum bought me Insomniac on CD. I just about wore out that tape and while I love Dookie, Insomniac is the best album they ever made. I bought Kerplunk later then I bought Nimrod and Warning. Didn't mind some of the later stuff like 21 guns and Jesus of suburbia.
Insomniac is a perfect album
Fact is they don't use the same four chords every song. They have gone off scales such as boulevard ending, prosthetic head, and expecially the newer stuff which complicated riffs and intros and chromatic passing tones. Maybe the earlier stuff, but not even because no one knows completely broke that rule..
Green day doesn't deserve hate
I used to go to Gilman St. in Berkeley at the same time that they used to play there. The two years I went, 90-91, they were total assholes and I don't remember them hanging out before or after shows. They would always open for the bands that I wanted to see there so I had to suffer through them a few times. They were way more pop than punk. The music they played sounded safe and boring. I like my punk music to feel a bit urgent.