@@Scotthulahoopcawthon yes regular school stuff. he would be an AP student sure but TFS overblows that hes a mega hyper genius. gohan literally goes to a NORMAL highschool in buu saga and not college if he was as smart as hes portrayed in Abridged. you guys keep forgetting he was homeschooled and was at best a high end AP student and STILL ends up at a public school.
Love the idea of freiza unlocking gold, quickly heading to Earth, talks shit, sees Goku's kid, laughs at him, and midway just realized he has a hole in him and just goes "well shit"...
One lf my favorite what-ifs of yours and honestly one of the ones I think would be phenomenal in a written format to explore the trauma both Goku and Gohan went through. Great work Salad!!
This is probably the best dragonball scenario i have ever seen. The fact that others besides Goku get their chance to show of their power and be amazing is simply extraordinary because i feel like that was one of the points of Z (passing on to the future generations and all). The mix up of powers was masterfully done and the execution of the plot and narrative was amazing. The Gohan Black Saga was probably my favorite part of the video. Also loving Vegeta in this story. Thank you for the amazing work!
tbh Vegeta is a rat in this one. to go and train alone at beerus place also another dumb thing was that beerus didnt go to the other saiyans to test them all.
I remember seeing Smugsticks one and it definitely did feel sad how Goku got betrayed by Kami, I even seen his what-if Vegeta was betrayed series and boy was it upsetting to see him betrayed by the woman he ended up getting with. Though I have seen the what-if Goku was betrayed and trapped in the tine chamber for X number of years videos from other channels that end up making Goku a lot more different in personality, throw in Vegeta as a buddy act for a few
This is honestly so sad for Gohan we always get mad about how he doesn’t train but he doesn’t like fighting like Goku or Vegeta does. Seeing Gohan just pushing through training to cope with what happened is sad.
This is actually pretty good. Much better than I expected. Especially since you had goku and gohan accidentally trap *themselves* instead of them being betrayed like in so many of the other takes on this kind of story. I also like what you did with vegeta. Though, I feel like he’s almost too nice. Still better than him being too much of a jerk. But still. Makes me wonder what exactly made him change this much.
I think it was because he had respect for Goku and Gohan that they sacrificed so much in order to defeat cell, then he went in and saw exactly what it was like, also remember before he was bitter he could not fight with Goku and Gohan had slacked off, this didn't happen here, leaving Vegeta to just be motivated to get stronger but not in a selfish way, also they did not hide the form from Vegeta, rather they showed him and told him how to achieve it and just left it at that.
@RunicTree He understood the sacrifices the duo made, and that made him respect them more. Rather then just trying to get stronger for petty rivalries sake
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Honestly I don't think Goku would be very effected by this. My impression of Goku is that he cares about his friends and family but for some reason doesn't really have the capacity to miss them. Even before DBZ Goku goes years without visiting any of his friends but he doesn't really act like they've been apart very long.
Saiyans in general seem to be immune to long term mental trauma. Think about it - the things that ALL of them go through are person-shatteringly bad, yet all of them are well adjusted and perfectly functional people... for the most part. And no, Gohan doesn't get his rage issues from trauma, he had them literally from birth. Assuming they don't just starve to death they'd come out of the time chamber after several years no worse for wear, imho, they'd probably just shake it off and after beating the everlasting shit out of Cell Gohan'd be perfectly willing to lose all the power he gained in return for getting back to his correct age before he has to go see his mother.
He might not miss them per se, but he would care about them being in danger and not being there to help. Remember the mad scramble to return to earth to face the saiyan invasion? Or how he was about to IT in to kill frieza back on earth before Trunks intervened? I think you’re probably right that he doesn’t miss them, but I’m certain he’d be panicking regardless since there’s still a threat on earth.
he knows exactly how much time he has to get back to them, and from his perspective, it's a fairly long time. He has basically 9-ish years to get out of the time chamber in time to face Cell. Really the bigger issue is the extremely limited amount of food. Honestly I think the best way to deal with that in this What If would've been if Popo had somehow found a magical way to refill their food rather than just sort of ignoring the problem and saying they somehow rationed a year's worth of food for 7 years and still had enough to feed two saiyans and train to SS3 level on top of that. That's probably the silliest part of the entire AU.
@@bananaslamma35 I had the same thought on food, you can’t train your muscles and ration your food at the same time, it doesn’t work. They would’ve simply starved to death. As far as time, I don’t think that matters when as far as you know, a hundred years might not be enough time to break out of a dimension with pure power. How could he know otherwise? It’s not like they got out with much time to spare in the end. So yeah, nine years was enough time, but Goku had no way of knowing that, and his panic is justified.
Goku is not prone to despair and he's knowledgeable enough to know that panicking is the worst thing he can do in this situation. Honestly I actually rather expect Goku to try to focus on the Instant Transmission technique as a potential avenue to get out of the pocket dimension, rather than fixate on sheer power alone. After all, he can use it to go to the afterlife in canon, so why not push it further? Could do an entire whatif about Goku perfecting Instant Transmission to the point he can use it reliably in combat and even to jump across universes, which changes the story dramatically. On top of that, since Goku needs to expand his ki sense to use it more effectively, it would actually give Goku a wealth of knowledge. Imagine a Goku who has felt Jiren's power as far back as the Cell Saga, and has that as his newest goal to surpass. Or hell, picking up on the fact there's another evil ki just as strong as Cell traveling across the universe. He could even pick up on Broly and Paragus. There's a lot of potential to a What If Goku Focused on Instant Transmission...
For anyone newly watching this, dw there's no ssj38 ultra egostinct Gokhan or whatever other abominations people have made with the whole TRAPPED what ifs lmao
This was a wonderful series! I really enjoyed your take on this scenario Salad, even if no one got Betrayed :P The journey Gohan went on to repair the broken pieces of his life was intense and it paid off beautifully in the end. Glad to see him get the happy ending he deserved. Can't wait to see what else you got in store, Salad!
This "trapped in the time chamber" is the best one I've seen. Most of the ones I've seen were pretty meh, and some were simply ridiculous - and completely not in the spirit of Toriyama's Dragon Ball. This one gets a thumbs-up. 👍
Bro, thats even better then an actual dbs story, here Goku finally cares at least about gohan, he feels sorry for him wasting his childhood like that. Everyone go on theirs own path, not "zoo wee mama we, saiyans can go blue and gohan goes to hell cuz his not the mc"
I can imagine goku and gohan crying in a couch as piccolo goes "how did that make you feel" ehile using his stretchy arm to grab a box of tissues for them
Gohan having to repeatedly knock out buu is the funniest shit ever! Just buu waking up then boom Gohan knocks hi out again and again just makes me laugh 🤣
Your version of Goku and Gohan being trapped in a Time chamber was the most logical. I've seen other versions where it's been due to some type of a betrayal Bud Goku has befriended and earned the respect of darn near every God and his universe and others so I don't see them betraying him or trying to trap him.
Technically no one knows what beast it my theory is kinda like how goku and vegeta combined god with super saiyan gohan was probably training to do the same but with 2 and ultimate why i think that is because of the hair really
I would love to know what would have happened if young Goku had been able to stay in the hyperbolic time chamber the whole time when he first started training with Kami.
He probably have a power level between 500 and 750 by the time of the 23rd tournament. Which would lead to an easier match against Piccelo Jr and be about even with Raditz by the time he showed up. After that it gets a bit harder to predict cause Raditz could join them, Goku could go train with king Kai if so his Kaiocannon would be about times 7 or 8 cause he had a head start with the ten times gravity, maybe Kamitells the others to go into the time chamber as well which could boost them to about 6,000 to 8,000 power level. Point is their many ways that can go
Honestly tho, i hate these kinds of unrealistic and cringe stories, but i gotta say as someone who has watched all the parts, you did a really good job at this, Salad. It didn't feel too over the top and had the characters grow and develop. So, props to you for that.
So happy you did this always love your version of what ifs because you think of it as a whole change and don’t just focused on the main what if subjects.
Something ive entertained in idle ideas was "What if Vegeta was a hybrid" as it would change a lot of things about the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta being prideful, his son Trunks, and maybe even who is top dog in the grand scheme of things. But hey, who knows, maybe it wouldnt change a thing?
This was pretty interesting. You should do one where Vegeta and Future Trunks were trapped in the Time Chamber; it could have easily started in the Cell Saga, when they first went in, with Vegeta biting off more than he could chew, and they have to get strong enough in order to escape. Of course, it wouldn't be just a battle of raw power, but also a battle of ideologies between Vegeta and Future Trunks, with the 2 bouncing off each other while also trying to kill each other, but with neither dying.
@@r.k3618 Well, think about it: Vegeta was acting like an asshole throughout the whole Android Saga, because he was far too prideful, even after being humiliated time and time again; imagine trying to put up with that after being trapped with him for years on end. Not to mention in the original story when they were facing Cell, Vegeta didn't expect Trunks to punch him dead in the face, before chasing after Cell; this only angered him further in response, because, again, he was far too prideful. They would try to kill each other at least 1 time while trapped in the time chamber, because of their conflicting ideologies, but neither would really die, because their strength would cause the fight to result in a stalemate; if not a death match, then Trunks at the very least would literally beat some sense into Vegeta.
It would be an absolute ridiculous amount of work akin to just being a whole fanfiction, but i would love to see a story that is just "what if Cabba and Universe 6 were the main characters of dragon ball"
And ssj god is above 16million multiplier Because it is stated to be stronger than a fusion, Goku x 40 Vegeta x 100 400 x 100 = 40000 40,000 x 400 16,000,000 Ssj 3 vegito is not enough for beerus Vegito ssj 3 = 16,000,000 Ssj god> ssj 3 vegito
@@superzockertvyt9630 let say there are two people they want to fuse the firsts guy power lvl is x the secound power lvl is y so the fused power will be x times y lets say x is 10000 and y is 10000 so the fused power is 10000000000
I appreciate the ridiculous events taking place in these What Ifs, because while they make little sense considering the personalities of the characters, they are still crazy fun. Unless you pull something like Gohan SSJ being stronger than Gamma 1. Isn't the whole premise of the Androids to be built to be able to effortlessly beat the fighters they had data on at full power? And Cell is supposed to be even beyond that. I mean, that's the whole reason why we got Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast. In this scenario they should have data on Gohan Beast because its power was sensed throughout earth and he has been training there since. He even fought PU SSJG Vegeta, and you are telling me a mere SSJ is putting Gamma 1 against the ropes?
I understand having Dabura go for Goku as he would've been the weaker of the two, but I feel as if Gohan would be the better victim for the story. Super's made Goku look like a child with how he drops his guard constantly and is too relaxed, but he learned better than that through DB and DBZ. Gohan is far less experienced, and in this scenario was never humbled by his mistakes against cell. Even so, I feel like neither of them would be caught off guard by Dabura, unless perhaps Babidi used some magic to make him stealthier somehow. Failing that, Vegeta would be a good target as a SSJ2 with an extra year or so of training (assuming Babidi strikes that much earlier, otherwise 2 years extra. Vegeta trained alone in that time anyway)
I had a what if idea that’d I’d love to see done. What if Shin trained with Whis? The premise could be something like, after losing the other Kais to Majin Buu, Shin decides that he won’t lose anyone else and he needs to be a better Kai. He contacts Whis to train him to be better and stronger.
My God, the ending to this was so good I would love to see this animated even though you know, literally impossible. This was a good one. Had me engaged the whole time. Saiyaman Squad😂💯
nice, full story, also what if the pendulum room was modified to be better, if you watched the third part of what if the z fighters used the time chamber from Plus Ultra man, you'll see why.
Love the video! The only gripe I have with it is that you gave Gohan his new Beast form without giving him his Ultimate form. Beast Gohan is his Ultimate form evolved just like Orange Piccolo is Potential Unleashed Evolved.
@@shakeebhussain8611 No information on any of that. Beast is assumed to be an evolved form of Ultimate/Potential Unleashed, but it is just as likely that Beast Form is Gohan’s own special ability.
That’d be interesting, tbh I think everyone would be killed by Cell besides Vegeta and Trunks depending on how long they were trapped in there for and AGAIN depending on if Krillin pushed the damn remote
didnt finish watching but it crushed me how 2 of my favorite characters lost a piece of themselves. Vegeta - Being the stongest(Goku Rivalry),Gohan - being a scholar Im only at 46:05 so who knows what can happen
Probably not cause when the door breaks it completely separates from the universe and I don't think Goku can travel between universes with instant transmission
a few what if ideas: "what if gohan died instead of goku during the cell games" "what if saiyans never had tails" "what if goku or vegeta never had children" (maybe doesnt apply to the future timeline so that there is plot progression) "what if mr. satan actually had strength comparable to the z-fighters" (and it passed down to videl too)
11:00 I think they coulda just wished for the years lost to be added onto the end of their lifespan instead, even if just for Gohan. Asking for a handful of years instead of immortality is definitely doable.
Instead of adding extra years to the end they could just ask to pause their aging temporarily. That way Gohan could catch back up in his studies without any negative side effects.
2 Ideas. 1) What if Piccolo, Goten, Trunks and Super Buu COULDN'T escape - and trained for an eternity, kept alive by Buus powers just so he won't get mad from loneliness? 2) what if Vegeta and Trunks were trapped? Same base as in this WhatIf, but those two saiyans have much different personalities. Trunks would kill Cell and save his timeline, but Geets? Who knows. Perhaps another What If Mini?
you do realise if trunks and vegeta were trapped everyone would be dead right? no vegeta or trunks means cell gets his perfect form and the only one thats a z fighter even a percentage strong as cell at this point is piccolo, and he lost badly to cell In his FIRST FORM. even if vegeta and trunks were to escape cell would of 100% already blown up earth and once vegeta and trunks find a way to exit they would just exist into the vacuum of space dying themselves and if they saw the portal led to space they might of just stayed In the room forever eventually going crazy and killing each other. the only possibility is goku noticing vegeta and trunks not leaving decides to take piccolo himself tenshinhan and Gohan to king kais planet, then they go to new namek and who knows what would happen there, the dragon balls aint able to do nun to cell so they are literally doomed In this outcome no matter what
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Hmm... y'know, I kinda wonder, 'What if Nappa was smart?'. Think about it; a lot of the events the Saiyans were involved in had him in a sort've "executive" position, where he just let things happen until he got arrogant and killed off by Vegeta. From the destruction of Planet Vegeta, to the events of the Saiyan Saga. If Nappa weren't dumb, then, much like the Saibamen he plants, he could've done several small things that would grow into a viable threat in no time at all. Not trusting Frieza on Planet Vegeta. Not giving his opponents a chance on Earth. _Not being warned about Goku by Vegeta and ignoring the warning._ Hell, he could've even convinced Vegeta to fight Goku from the get-go, instead of "after Nappa falls". Just needed a bit of cunning.
Wish we had an official explanation on what beast is, is it an evolution of ultimate? Is it a human transformation? Is it something else? This form drives me insane!
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What if Goku was betrayed, trapped in the time chamber, divorced, jumped, and betrayed again
You should be dragon ball's story writer. Your imagination is vaster then the whole cosmos😂😂😂
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Edgy fanfic phase, eh?
I remember my middle school years.
"Divorced, jumped and betrayed again."
In that order in particular please. 😂
Vegeta: "(I hope Goku isn't randomly reading my mind)"
Goku: "Don't worry about that."
Nah, no privacy is crazy
The powerscaling for this scenario is crazy off the bat. Gohan straight up shook an infinite timespace in just SS2.
I figure it's for dramatic flare.
@@PurpleHeartE54Ironically I feel like SSJ2 Gohan at that point probably could
piccolo was able to break the door, and he’s weaker than ssj2 gohan. So i’d presume ssj2 gohan could break some stuff
It's not infinite. Manga states its the size of the Earth.
The room is not upgraded yet
Gohan "is behind academically"
**Bro was talking about theoretical physics at age 10**
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thats abridged gohan lol. stop mandela effecting
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nqwhat are you talking about gohan was forced to study his academic’s on the way to namek
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nqBro knows more about aliens than most humans and he also knows about FTL (i think) space ships and he studied from God/Kami
@@Scotthulahoopcawthon yes regular school stuff. he would be an AP student sure but TFS overblows that hes a mega hyper genius. gohan literally goes to a NORMAL highschool in buu saga and not college if he was as smart as hes portrayed in Abridged. you guys keep forgetting he was homeschooled and was at best a high end AP student and STILL ends up at a public school.
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Love the idea of freiza unlocking gold, quickly heading to Earth, talks shit, sees Goku's kid, laughs at him, and midway just realized he has a hole in him and just goes "well shit"...
I imagine frieza just thinks “fuckin monkeys…” as he dies. 😂😂😂
One lf my favorite what-ifs of yours and honestly one of the ones I think would be phenomenal in a written format to explore the trauma both Goku and Gohan went through. Great work Salad!!
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Oh boy, I've always wanted to have that for Christmas, seeing Goku and Gohan with severe mental anguish 😅
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This is probably the best dragonball scenario i have ever seen.
The fact that others besides Goku get their chance to show of their power and be amazing is simply extraordinary because i feel like that was one of the points of Z (passing on to the future generations and all). The mix up of powers was masterfully done and the execution of the plot and narrative was amazing. The Gohan Black Saga was probably my favorite part of the video. Also loving Vegeta in this story.
Thank you for the amazing work!
tbh Vegeta is a rat in this one. to go and train alone at beerus place also another dumb thing was that beerus didnt go to the other saiyans to test them all.
@@noobaction7720BRO? UR EVERYWHERE what the crap dude why are you everywhere I go
Goku was abandoned in most part of this story like Gohan in dbs
I absolutely love all the different takes people have for Goku getting trapped in the Time Chamber. It's such an interesting idea.
I've seeing all the different takes on it, now I have to watch all of them because it's a fun idea.
I remember seeing Smugsticks one and it definitely did feel sad how Goku got betrayed by Kami, I even seen his what-if Vegeta was betrayed series and boy was it upsetting to see him betrayed by the woman he ended up getting with.
Though I have seen the what-if Goku was betrayed and trapped in the tine chamber for X number of years videos from other channels that end up making Goku a lot more different in personality, throw in Vegeta as a buddy act for a few
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I’m so glad someone did this without it being someone betraying them it just seems to fit so much better loved the video
This is honestly so sad for Gohan we always get mad about how he doesn’t train but he doesn’t like fighting like Goku or Vegeta does. Seeing Gohan just pushing through training to cope with what happened is sad.
This is actually pretty good. Much better than I expected. Especially since you had goku and gohan accidentally trap *themselves* instead of them being betrayed like in so many of the other takes on this kind of story. I also like what you did with vegeta. Though, I feel like he’s almost too nice. Still better than him being too much of a jerk. But still. Makes me wonder what exactly made him change this much.
I think it was because he had respect for Goku and Gohan that they sacrificed so much in order to defeat cell, then he went in and saw exactly what it was like, also remember before he was bitter he could not fight with Goku and Gohan had slacked off, this didn't happen here, leaving Vegeta to just be motivated to get stronger but not in a selfish way, also they did not hide the form from Vegeta, rather they showed him and told him how to achieve it and just left it at that.
he was humbled
@RunicTree He understood the sacrifices the duo made, and that made him respect them more. Rather then just trying to get stronger for petty rivalries sake
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moral of the story. dont be scared to go your own path and youll be surprised how far you can go
This shit is poetic as fuck
At least Gohan got to spend time with his father.
He was trapped with goku not piccolo🤦♂️
@@StW_Beast_exactly, his father
@@rckyourworlddon’t worry it’s obvious that this person only watches dragon ball dragon ball z and super on some of the most cringy TikTok and RUclips videos
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Honestly I don't think Goku would be very effected by this. My impression of Goku is that he cares about his friends and family but for some reason doesn't really have the capacity to miss them. Even before DBZ Goku goes years without visiting any of his friends but he doesn't really act like they've been apart very long.
Saiyans in general seem to be immune to long term mental trauma.
Think about it - the things that ALL of them go through are person-shatteringly bad, yet all of them are well adjusted and perfectly functional people... for the most part.
And no, Gohan doesn't get his rage issues from trauma, he had them literally from birth.
Assuming they don't just starve to death they'd come out of the time chamber after several years no worse for wear, imho, they'd probably just shake it off and after beating the everlasting shit out of Cell Gohan'd be perfectly willing to lose all the power he gained in return for getting back to his correct age before he has to go see his mother.
He might not miss them per se, but he would care about them being in danger and not being there to help. Remember the mad scramble to return to earth to face the saiyan invasion? Or how he was about to IT in to kill frieza back on earth before Trunks intervened?
I think you’re probably right that he doesn’t miss them, but I’m certain he’d be panicking regardless since there’s still a threat on earth.
he knows exactly how much time he has to get back to them, and from his perspective, it's a fairly long time. He has basically 9-ish years to get out of the time chamber in time to face Cell.
Really the bigger issue is the extremely limited amount of food.
Honestly I think the best way to deal with that in this What If would've been if Popo had somehow found a magical way to refill their food rather than just sort of ignoring the problem and saying they somehow rationed a year's worth of food for 7 years and still had enough to feed two saiyans and train to SS3 level on top of that.
That's probably the silliest part of the entire AU.
@@bananaslamma35 I had the same thought on food, you can’t train your muscles and ration your food at the same time, it doesn’t work. They would’ve simply starved to death.
As far as time, I don’t think that matters when as far as you know, a hundred years might not be enough time to break out of a dimension with pure power. How could he know otherwise? It’s not like they got out with much time to spare in the end.
So yeah, nine years was enough time, but Goku had no way of knowing that, and his panic is justified.
Goku is not prone to despair and he's knowledgeable enough to know that panicking is the worst thing he can do in this situation.
Honestly I actually rather expect Goku to try to focus on the Instant Transmission technique as a potential avenue to get out of the pocket dimension, rather than fixate on sheer power alone. After all, he can use it to go to the afterlife in canon, so why not push it further?
Could do an entire whatif about Goku perfecting Instant Transmission to the point he can use it reliably in combat and even to jump across universes, which changes the story dramatically. On top of that, since Goku needs to expand his ki sense to use it more effectively, it would actually give Goku a wealth of knowledge.
Imagine a Goku who has felt Jiren's power as far back as the Cell Saga, and has that as his newest goal to surpass. Or hell, picking up on the fact there's another evil ki just as strong as Cell traveling across the universe. He could even pick up on Broly and Paragus. There's a lot of potential to a What If Goku Focused on Instant Transmission...
Finally a what if video where vegeta isn’t left out
Is this the video where vegeta gets ultimate?
For anyone newly watching this, dw there's no ssj38 ultra egostinct Gokhan or whatever other abominations people have made with the whole TRAPPED what ifs lmao
Yeah honestly this is a pretty realistic what if
Plus Goku in this one doesn't vow revenge like those ones do especially if it involves him having to kill the gods and throw profanities at them
@@PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay aha true, his new Ultra state being Ultra Edge
This series is one of my favorite takes on the "Trapped in the time chamber" idea. Thanks for giving an easier way to binge it!
Would love to see a version of goku and Vegeta trapped in the time chamber
This was a wonderful series! I really enjoyed your take on this scenario Salad, even if no one got Betrayed :P The journey Gohan went on to repair the broken pieces of his life was intense and it paid off beautifully in the end. Glad to see him get the happy ending he deserved. Can't wait to see what else you got in store, Salad!
This "trapped in the time chamber" is the best one I've seen. Most of the ones I've seen were pretty meh, and some were simply ridiculous - and completely not in the spirit of Toriyama's Dragon Ball. This one gets a thumbs-up. 👍
Bro, thats even better then an actual dbs story, here Goku finally cares at least about gohan, he feels sorry for him wasting his childhood like that. Everyone go on theirs own path, not "zoo wee mama we, saiyans can go blue and gohan goes to hell cuz his not the mc"
It really isn't... Just early powerups
@@h0st_le960did you even watch the what if
u don't know shit about dbs real story
Nope
I can imagine goku and gohan crying in a couch as piccolo goes "how did that make you feel" ehile using his stretchy arm to grab a box of tissues for them
Gohan having to repeatedly knock out buu is the funniest shit ever!
Just buu waking up then boom Gohan knocks hi out again and again just makes me laugh 🤣
Thank god I have been looking for your channel for soooo long Also amazing story as usual! Keep it up
Your version of Goku and Gohan being trapped in a Time chamber was the most logical. I've seen other versions where it's been due to some type of a betrayal Bud Goku has befriended and earned the respect of darn near every God and his universe and others so I don't see them betraying him or trying to trap him.
Genuine question: Isn’t Beast an offshoot of potential unleashed? If so why can Gohan go beast without his potential being unleashed?
Technically no one knows what beast it my theory is kinda like how goku and vegeta combined god with super saiyan gohan was probably training to do the same but with 2 and ultimate why i think that is because of the hair really
it’s supposed to be, but it’s a what-if, also there’s basically next to nothing known about the form. also it’s fun to mess with canon
Wouldn't "potential unlock" mean it unlocks Gohan's potential that is inherent to him? Like Beast is an only Gohan thing given his genetics?
I would say you're right. It's basically a Super Saiyan version of his Unlocked Potential form.
His potential was unleashed naturally from all of the training he did in this timeline
I would love to know what would have happened if young Goku had been able to stay in the hyperbolic time chamber the whole time when he first started training with Kami.
He probably have a power level between 500 and 750 by the time of the 23rd tournament. Which would lead to an easier match against Piccelo Jr and be about even with Raditz by the time he showed up. After that it gets a bit harder to predict cause Raditz could join them, Goku could go train with king Kai if so his Kaiocannon would be about times 7 or 8 cause he had a head start with the ten times gravity, maybe Kamitells the others to go into the time chamber as well which could boost them to about 6,000 to 8,000 power level. Point is their many ways that can go
Honestly tho, i hate these kinds of unrealistic and cringe stories, but i gotta say as someone who has watched all the parts, you did a really good job at this, Salad. It didn't feel too over the top and had the characters grow and develop. So, props to you for that.
Honestly… this isn’t that unrealistic. Totally could see this happpening if Gohan and Goku were in a spot close to the door.
@@zanephair5684 exactly bro
@@zanephair5684I mean really gohan did break part of the time chamber. It could def happen
I wouldn't say unrealistic more so exaggerated
@@andm9766both of them in ssj 2 could just scream their way out
You should make a scenario where Gohan mixes super Saiyan 4 with beast mode that would look sick 😆
We just gonna combine every form now?
You've seen those old ssj5 pics on the internet huh?
Never thought of that but I guess the Beast mode and SSJ4 fused together would look like those SSJ5 pics
He should combine Ultra instinct, Ultimate form, SSJ4, Beast Mode, and Ultra Ego to make a form called Ultimate Ultra Instego SSJ4 Gohan Beast
Gohan and Gohan leaving the chamber as SSJ3 off the bat is crazy. I do wish more characters had gained SSJ3.
Gohan²
Did the chamber force Goku to transform into a clone of Gohan?
So happy you did this always love your version of what ifs because you think of it as a whole change and don’t just focused on the main what if subjects.
Really cool what-if. Really enjoyed the Gohan Black arc and even watching Zamasu help with the tournament of power was really cool.
I have a question. How did Gohan Black happen? What if Gohan Black grows stronger with rage and injuries and unlocks Ultra Ego?
Something ive entertained in idle ideas was "What if Vegeta was a hybrid" as it would change a lot of things about the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta being prideful, his son Trunks, and maybe even who is top dog in the grand scheme of things.
But hey, who knows, maybe it wouldnt change a thing?
They were ready for any threat. Except for the most dangerous one of all...Chi Chi
This was pretty interesting.
You should do one where Vegeta and Future Trunks were trapped in the Time Chamber; it could have easily started in the Cell Saga, when they first went in, with Vegeta biting off more than he could chew, and they have to get strong enough in order to escape.
Of course, it wouldn't be just a battle of raw power, but also a battle of ideologies between Vegeta and Future Trunks, with the 2 bouncing off each other while also trying to kill each other, but with neither dying.
Why would he try too kill his dad lmao
@@r.k3618 I don't know, maybe dealing with Vegeta's pride and ruthless behavior for so long would cause him to snap?
@@randomguy1912 bro uts his dad. Would your dad being a jerk make you wanna kill him in any scenario
@@r.k3618 Well, think about it: Vegeta was acting like an asshole throughout the whole Android Saga, because he was far too prideful, even after being humiliated time and time again; imagine trying to put up with that after being trapped with him for years on end.
Not to mention in the original story when they were facing Cell, Vegeta didn't expect Trunks to punch him dead in the face, before chasing after Cell; this only angered him further in response, because, again, he was far too prideful.
They would try to kill each other at least 1 time while trapped in the time chamber, because of their conflicting ideologies, but neither would really die, because their strength would cause the fight to result in a stalemate; if not a death match, then Trunks at the very least would literally beat some sense into Vegeta.
i love that these stories aren’t just biased toward goku. Honestly more interesting than the actual animes
NO. Just NO. Fuck NO. Hell NO.
It would be an absolute ridiculous amount of work akin to just being a whole fanfiction, but i would love to see a story that is just "what if Cabba and Universe 6 were the main characters of dragon ball"
Nice! Another What-if Full Story! Been looking forward to one of these again. You just made my Saturday! Now if only i didn't have to work 😅
Quit you're job
I love it when the summer weather feels like christmas, thanks for the holiday video!
Love your content, best what ifs!
They really are
Fun Fact SSJ2 is a X100 SSJ3 X400.
And ssj god is above 16million multiplier
Because it is stated to be stronger than a fusion,
Goku x 40
Vegeta x 100
400 x 100 = 40000
40,000 x 400
16,000,000
Ssj 3 vegito is not enough for beerus
Vegito ssj 3 = 16,000,000
Ssj god> ssj 3 vegito
@@mythicalted5987we never get to know what the fusion boost is
@@superzockertvyt9630 let say there are two people they want to fuse the firsts guy power lvl is x the secound power lvl is y so the fused power will be x times y lets say x is 10000 and y is 10000 so the fused power is 10000000000
@@superzockertvyt96302 months late but fusion dance is a x b but potara is a+b x50
We aren’t sure actually, since ssj grade 4 is stronger than regular super saiyan so it can be assumed that they have more than a 50x boost
I appreciate the ridiculous events taking place in these What Ifs, because while they make little sense considering the personalities of the characters, they are still crazy fun. Unless you pull something like Gohan SSJ being stronger than Gamma 1.
Isn't the whole premise of the Androids to be built to be able to effortlessly beat the fighters they had data on at full power? And Cell is supposed to be even beyond that. I mean, that's the whole reason why we got Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast.
In this scenario they should have data on Gohan Beast because its power was sensed throughout earth and he has been training there since. He even fought PU SSJG Vegeta, and you are telling me a mere SSJ is putting Gamma 1 against the ropes?
I understand having Dabura go for Goku as he would've been the weaker of the two, but I feel as if Gohan would be the better victim for the story. Super's made Goku look like a child with how he drops his guard constantly and is too relaxed, but he learned better than that through DB and DBZ. Gohan is far less experienced, and in this scenario was never humbled by his mistakes against cell. Even so, I feel like neither of them would be caught off guard by Dabura, unless perhaps Babidi used some magic to make him stealthier somehow. Failing that, Vegeta would be a good target as a SSJ2 with an extra year or so of training (assuming Babidi strikes that much earlier, otherwise 2 years extra. Vegeta trained alone in that time anyway)
That was awesome. I hope you do more with it.
I had a what if idea that’d I’d love to see done.
What if Shin trained with Whis?
The premise could be something like, after losing the other Kais to Majin Buu, Shin decides that he won’t lose anyone else and he needs to be a better Kai. He contacts Whis to train him to be better and stronger.
Would be interesting to see how Beerus would react to this
At least Shin would get stronger and actually become more competent unlike his canon self
Dude SSJ3LB looks SICK AS HELL!
He'll yeah
Goku and Gohan's powers has become *MAXIMUM!*
It isn’t MAXIMUMER though
It isn't MAXIMUMIST though
@@amarramdath3546It isn't *MAXIMUMER-EST* tho...
@@tynirio_1it isn't *MAXIMUMER-EST-ER*
You know the part where Vegeta put himself in for like 2 years I need dinner interact with anyone he is now finally been given the title of gamer😂
i love that zamasu turned good maybe you can do a normal story about that
Awesome Movie 😎😎
Gotta appreciate the love shown to vegeta in this what if.
i love what ifs where they all go different ways of power
Gohan along the series: " I thought... I thought you were stronger."
I love that Zeno just casually decides on mass genocide
Salad saiyan you’re the best at this and I appreciate you bro…
I can't get enough of your videos!
My God, the ending to this was so good I would love to see this animated even though you know, literally impossible. This was a good one. Had me engaged the whole time. Saiyaman Squad😂💯
Tbh This is the best what if I've watched I'm fan of ur work I want more good stuff wish u the best❤
This is a fire 🔥 video keep it up
future trunks beast looked fire asf i love how you included goten an trunks into the story realy good fire vid
In most of those other what if versions they have the z fighers betray Goku which doesn't seem likely so I prefer your version
This was a grate series bro keep it up
nice, full story, also what if the pendulum room was modified to be better, if you watched the third part of what if the z fighters used the time chamber from Plus Ultra man, you'll see why.
Goku when gohan breaks the room : 6TH RULE OF POPO'S TRAINING 6TH RULE OF POPO'S TRAINING
Love the video! The only gripe I have with it is that you gave Gohan his new Beast form without giving him his Ultimate form. Beast Gohan is his Ultimate form evolved just like Orange Piccolo is Potential Unleashed Evolved.
Is that confirmed?…
@@mrlemon8276 Yeah I thought so
@@mrlemon8276how come gohan doesn’t use ultimate anymore after he uses beast 41:06
@@mrlemon8276 is ultimate better than beast?
@@shakeebhussain8611 No information on any of that. Beast is assumed to be an evolved form of Ultimate/Potential Unleashed, but it is just as likely that Beast Form is Gohan’s own special ability.
Again with the best dbz what if maker
What if Vegeta and Trunks were trapped in the Time Chamber?
That’d be interesting, tbh I think everyone would be killed by Cell besides Vegeta and Trunks depending on how long they were trapped in there for and AGAIN depending on if Krillin pushed the damn remote
but he got sum sperm in the android
Cell would still easily destroy Vegeta
:(((((
@@markmagician2471 after years and years of training?
You and smugstick have the best what ifs
Beautiful ♥
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didnt finish watching but it crushed me how 2 of my favorite characters lost a piece of themselves. Vegeta - Being the stongest(Goku Rivalry),Gohan - being a scholar Im only at 46:05 so who knows what can happen
lmaoo as soon as I say this here comes Gohan giving Vegeta the best fight he ever had
Im currently at 3:55 and I was wondering, can't goku use instant transmission, grab gohan and escape?
Probably not cause when the door breaks it completely separates from the universe and I don't think Goku can travel between universes with instant transmission
@@ThewalkingVoid001 even if he could he had to be able to sense someone there and he couldn't because the room is isolated from the rest of the world
a few what if ideas:
"what if gohan died instead of goku during the cell games"
"what if saiyans never had tails"
"what if goku or vegeta never had children" (maybe doesnt apply to the future timeline so that there is plot progression)
"what if mr. satan actually had strength comparable to the z-fighters" (and it passed down to videl too)
best recommendations I’ve heard of so far
Ayo salad I’ve got an idea, what if Broly was raised by beerus
Then gohan picture he used when he described gohan’s attitude being “stoic” 😭😭😭 you a demon for that
11:00 I think they coulda just wished for the years lost to be added onto the end of their lifespan instead, even if just for Gohan. Asking for a handful of years instead of immortality is definitely doable.
Instead of adding extra years to the end they could just ask to pause their aging temporarily. That way Gohan could catch back up in his studies without any negative side effects.
@@GamePlague Yeah they definitely could have done that, maybe in another timeline it happened that way 😁
this is good, your best yet!!!! the end was amazing !!
I love this story
I really love the take on forced fusion🔥 messed up, but interesting
Amazing content please keep it up
I recently found your channel - solid content bro!🤍
Now can you do what if Vegeta and trunks were trapped?
This is the only one of these I have genuinely loved bro keep it up
What if DJ Khaled was betrayed and trapped in the time chamber?
2 Ideas.
1) What if Piccolo, Goten, Trunks and Super Buu COULDN'T escape - and trained for an eternity, kept alive by Buus powers just so he won't get mad from loneliness?
2) what if Vegeta and Trunks were trapped? Same base as in this WhatIf, but those two saiyans have much different personalities. Trunks would kill Cell and save his timeline, but Geets? Who knows. Perhaps another What If Mini?
you do realise if trunks and vegeta were trapped everyone would be dead right? no vegeta or trunks means cell gets his perfect form and the only one thats a z fighter even a percentage strong as cell at this point is piccolo, and he lost badly to cell In his FIRST FORM.
even if vegeta and trunks were to escape cell would of 100% already blown up earth and once vegeta and trunks find a way to exit they would just exist into the vacuum of space dying themselves and if they saw the portal led to space they might of just stayed In the room forever eventually going crazy and killing each other.
the only possibility is goku noticing vegeta and trunks not leaving decides to take piccolo himself tenshinhan and Gohan to king kais planet, then they go to new namek and who knows what would happen there, the dragon balls aint able to do nun to cell so they are literally doomed In this outcome no matter what
How in the world does a 1 hour and 57-minute video get over 600 views in 10 minutes?
forgot how big of a W future trunks’ timeline takes in this what if
I have been eating for this for so long😊
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Relatable.
Thanks Gogeta
severe mental anguish, my fave
Would fused zamasu still sound like a normal fusion when they talk even though the Gohan black side of him is gone
Hmm... y'know, I kinda wonder, 'What if Nappa was smart?'.
Think about it; a lot of the events the Saiyans were involved in had him in a sort've "executive" position, where he just let things happen until he got arrogant and killed off by Vegeta. From the destruction of Planet Vegeta, to the events of the Saiyan Saga.
If Nappa weren't dumb, then, much like the Saibamen he plants, he could've done several small things that would grow into a viable threat in no time at all. Not trusting Frieza on Planet Vegeta. Not giving his opponents a chance on Earth. _Not being warned about Goku by Vegeta and ignoring the warning._ Hell, he could've even convinced Vegeta to fight Goku from the get-go, instead of "after Nappa falls". Just needed a bit of cunning.
I'm honestly just waiting for " what If everyone was trapped in the TIME CHAMBER?"
Dunno about the rest
But Krillin dies
@@Logan_97nah krillin would be the main character
@@thelastmaster7996 if that's case, he will carry around 25 Billion Senzu Beans in a stupendously large pocket.
Love your videos, always amazing.
What if planet Earth has the same gravity as king kai planet or what if Table was sent to Earth.
He would need some chairs
Wish we had an official explanation on what beast is, is it an evolution of ultimate? Is it a human transformation? Is it something else? This form drives me insane!
Probably ultimate but Beast could imply human and saiyan since they are both connected to monkeys which could be considered beasts.
Its made to sell merchandise
If Xenoverse 2 is anything to go off (which it might not be, but it’s the best we got) any race can learn Beast
Oh, I like that Cell assumed this was Future Gohan. Shows the writer (you) is paying attention to which characters have what information.