Siskel & Ebert Classics - 2/15/89 - Oscar Surprises
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Gene & Roger's annual analysis of the hits and misses from the annual Oscar nominations.
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Miss this show.
Me too.
God, yes!!!
Miss it also. TFS
Thank you for these. I put one on and for 30 minutes it feels like 30 years ago. A simpler, much better time.
It drives me crazy how often the Academy nominates lead actors in supporting roles and vice versa. Phoenix was a lead, but I think Kline and Davis were supporting. Among the big omissions for 1988 were Gena Rowlands as lead for "Another Woman," Anne Bancroft as supporting for "Torch Song Trilogy," Eric Bogosian as lead for "Talk Radio," and mostly Charles Grodin for lead, who gave the performance of his career in "Midnight Run," which was one of the very best films of 1988.
Davis was not a supporting role and neither was Kline. Siskel and Ebert are right on the money with the 'ringer' reference. Turner was a true supporting role in the Accidental Tourist.
@@lilchicklets Yeah, for you! Both Geena Davis and Kevin Kline won for best supporting acting
Oscars In 1989 for "The Accidental Tourist" and "A Fish Called Wanda."
@@markelijio6012 no kidding. We’re talking about category fraud, genius. It happens all the time
Barbara Hershey, Jill Clayburgh and Martha Plimpton gave extraordinary performances in Shy People, a fascinating and brilliant movie. Hershey was also great in A World Apart (as was Jodhi May). Shy People is one of the very best movies of 1988 and one to seek out if you haven't seen it.
Thank you so much for these uploads! Also thank you for adding the dates so we can watch them in chronological order.
thanks, I've tried to research broadcast dates and even if they're a little off, I tried to get them into a proper chronological order so you can attempt to watch them in sequence (roughly) if you so choose.
14:48 Roger comes up with the Memo to the Academy concept on the spot which from then on becomes an annual show
The Academy has always been unnecessarily hard on comedy. Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Big are both worthy of multiple major Oscars.
Absolutely! I can't count how many actors I've heard admit that comedy is harder than drama.
Jim Carrey should have been nominated for Truman Show, Bill Murray for Groundhog Day... Hell, Will Farrell could have been nominated for Anchorman. He vanished behind that moustache and made the most absurd dialogue memorable.
1988 could've been the year that they stretched out and actually gave nominations to comedy movies. But like S&E said, the Academy has a short attention span, and they always go for the big budget costume dramas 🙄
The short attention span was definitely the case in '88, considering how all 5 of the best picture nominees were released in December. They didn't even bother to look again at the summertime comedies like Big, Bull Durham, and especially Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which (next to Rain Man) were some of the biggest money-makers of the year.
Still, though, I always get a kick out of watching these two go after the Academy back then, which just proves to show that they can almost never be taken seriously.
In 1989 to 1991, the following movies were cited in acting and foreign language categories:
Pelle the Conqueror (Denmark)
- Winner, Best Foreign Language Film; nominee, Best Actor (Max von Sydow)
Camille Claude (France)
- Nominee, Best Actress; Best Foreign Language Film
Cyrano de Bergerac (France)
- Nominated for five Oscars including Best Actor (Gérard Depardieu) and Best Foreign Language Film
Winner, Best Costume Design
It happened again in 1999 but two films were acknowledged:
Life is Beautiful (Italy)
- Winner, Best Actor; Best Foreign Language Film, and Best Original Score for a Drama Film
Central do Brazil (Brazil)
- Nominee, Best Actress and Best Foreign Language Film
It took 13 years for it to happen again.
- Amour (France-Austria-Germany)
Winner, Best Foreign Language Film
Nominee, Best Picture of 2012; Best Directing, Best Actress (Emmanuelle Riva), and Best Original Screenplay
I've never seen their "If We Picked The Winners" episode for this year. It's obvious which Best Picture nominees they would have voted for from looking at their Top 10 lists, but their choices in other categories strike me as difficult to predict. I'll bet Gene chose Meryl Streep in "A Cry In The Dark" as Best Actress and Roger chose Melanie Griffith. In the other categories, it's anybody's guess but I think I can narrow it down to 2 likely S&E favorites in each one (Hackman or Hoffman, Kline or Phoenix, Davis or McDormand).
There is a new clip available of S&E chatting with Bob Costas about the 61st Oscars. I was right: Siskel preferred Meryl Streep, Ebert singled out Melanie Griffith. Both were biased in favor of Gene Hackman. Their preferences for the supporting roles are unclear.
It was highway robbery that Clean and Sober, specifically Michael Keaton's performance got no notice or nominations this year...easily one of the best acting performances of 88.
I love these two guys
If they’re going to cheat.... lol. Makes me think of the gangster in Miller’s Crossing complaining about fixed fights not staying fixed.
It's a question of ethics.
I have to admit, when these two disagree I am usually in Roger's camp. His arguments are usually clearer to me than Gene's, he just tends to almost whine, 'it's too this or too that and I'm sick of it.' lol. But in this case, the little scrap they have at around 10:31, it's easy to understand what Gene is saying and Roger overreacts. The system isn't working because they are not following the rules but IF that's the way it works, then it has to be that way for EVERYONE. That's easy to understand. I also agree with Roger though, they should fix the problem by listing the actors into various categories so that they can't be nominated outside of them. It would be like baseball, nominating a pitcher for an award that was intended for a hitter.
The Accidental Tourist and Working GIrl are my favorites from that year. WHy don't they make pics like this anymore??
Mississippi Burning: Hackman should have won best actor and the film best picture. Incredible film!!
I always he thought he won the next year for "Unforgiven" as make-up for losing in Mississippi...
Have Rockwell’s print of the murder in Mississippi hanging on my wall. So I never forget.
Good deal!
Willem Dafoe was so handsome in 1988
I forgot that The Accidental Tourist was nominated for Best Pic.
To be fair, Bull Durham, Oscar nominated for best original screenplay-Ron Shelton. The Last Temptation of Christ, Oscar nominated for best direction-Martin Scorsese. Big, Oscar nominated for best actor-Tom Hanks and best original screenplay-Anne Spielberg and Gary Ross. And A Cry in the Dark, Oscar nominated for best actress-Meryl Streep. Incredible films!!!
Err...Kevin Kline is not the lead actor in A Fish Called Wanda any more than Palin is.
BAFTA actually nominated Kline in Lead (losing to John Cleese from the same movie). In fact, Kline's win is rather extraordinary in the sense that he was not nominated anywhere else for this performance besides BAFTA and Oscar, with the latter being his only win in any ceremony for that film that year.
Normally, an actor or actress wins critics awards along with Golden Globes, Baftas etc. before the Oscar. Kevin Kline was completely overlooked for critics wins as well as nominations from other ceremonies and he still won the Oscar anyway.
it was interesting with how many great movies were released that year that deserved to have won oscars in late or early 88 to 1989 the year I was born in
A bit surprised that Roger thought that those other three other movies were better than The Last Temptation of Christ. Personally I don't see much sense in ranking things that you think are great but maybe it wasn't meant that seriously. Nice to see though that he thought that Mississippi Burning was a great movie. I like it very much.
Also, seeing Michael Keaton getting some praise was nice. I think he has more talent than most of his movies allowed him to show.
Kevin Kline earned that oscar. Such a funny, original performance!
To be fair, A Fish Called Wanda and Working Girl, nominated for direction, were funny. And Rain Man, winner of best director and picture, while not a comedy, was certainly a drama with a lot of humor.
Thank you so much.
Chevy Chase got snubbed for Funny Farm.
And, as we all know, Roger Ebert's OUTRAGE at _The Thin Blue Line_ being left out of the "Best Documentary" nominees would be the angriest Roger Ebert ever got about a documentary movie he liked not being nominated for an Oscar. The End.
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pft!
No it wasn’t. There was a documentary 2 or so years later that he really went apeshit over. 2 guys in NY. Something to do with an old rural family. I forgot the name. He said this upset him more than The Thin Blue Line’s snub.
gave up on the Oscars when Crash beat Brokeback
For me it was Ordinary People over Raging Bull. That said, Ordinary People is definitely better than Crash. Damn, I hated that movie.
For me when “Gandhi” beat out “E.T.” and “Tootsie”. It seemed to be a “Find a way to deny Stephen Spielberg his Oscar.” Hollywood has this attitude that you should pay your dues. Too bad it was at Spielberg’s expense.
Do you have the If We Picked the Winners for this year?
I have to wonder what they'd have thought of the 2018 oscar nominations and the hilarious attempt at creating a category for "best popular film" only to have it blow up in the academy's face and be forced to nominate black panther for best picture despite not deserving it.
Glenn should have won. Hands down!
Always thought Tim Robbins was the weak spot in Bull Durham. Ridiculous windup. Takes me right out of the movie.
Ron Shelton's script for "Bull Durham" earned him an 1989 Oscar nomination.
In the last 20 yrs it's reversed: huge successful films never win anymore
Streep chose projects based on her ability to get noms. She is unwatchable, her movies are cures for insomnia. No Bull Durham for Streep, too lowbrow
I wondered why I could never warm to her despite her evident talent, and I'm surprised I didn't recognise why after what you said. She's the ultimate safe actor. Always in her comfort zone, always cruising for easy awards. Compare and contrast to Sissy Spacek, Francis McDormand, Tilda Swinton...
Utter tosh. Fabulous actress, talented as, very challenging roles.
Whoa, wait a minute, eh? This is so confusing. Now I have a funny feeling that you're
confusing yourself on this comment. And you'll better get your act together, okay?
For the record, Meryl Streep was Oscar nominated for best actress on
"A Cry in the Dark" (WB, theatrical, 1988; Paramount, TV syndication, 1992) and
Ron Shelton was Oscar nominated for best writing, original screenplay for
"Bull Durham" (Orion, theatrical, 1988; Columbia/TeleVentures, TV syndication,
1991). I'm sorry but I'm being honest with you. Don't beaten yourself about
cinema, it happens to me too. We all make mistakes but now we learn
something from others and start to forgive each other. But let's learn to
love and forgive each other, shall we?
Gene Hackman is overrated in about everything.