Siskel & Ebert Classics - 4/7/89 - "They'll Do It Every Time"
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- A particularly enjoyable S&E episode looking at movie cliches and formulas.
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When Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel talk about the continuity error in the Untouchables, they button and then unbutton their own shirt collars! I just noticed that. How brilliant!😅
I've never noticed that! Good eye.
I have never seen this episode! Thank you for uploading this!
@@sha11235 Thanks! I've seen the second one.
Thanks, you got it, this is from my own tape.
@@sha11235 The siskelebert site titled this one as Movie Cliches: Things That Movie Critics Get Tired of Hearing and Seeing, 1988. Part 2 is titled They’ll Do It Every Time: Part Two (Movie Clichés), 1992.
I remember seeing this episode when it first aired.
This aired about a week before I got sober. Omg. Almost 34 years ago.
The one horror movie cliche I absolutely hate is the fakeout jumpsacre.
When used correctly a jump scare can be very effective (like when freddy finally crosses over into "reality" in wes craven's new bightmare) but most of the time it's simple shorthand for: "we didn't know how too effectively create tension here so here's a pa throwing a cat at the actor/actress".
Kevin Williamson and Wes Craven must have seen this episode. Scream practically quotes from this.
I love when I binge a few of these, and they have the intro music in a slightly different speed/key. When's someone gonna make a vaporwave thing with S&E?
ya know Wes Craven watched this back in the day and said, "someone should make a movie based on horror movie cliches!" and SCREAM was born!
6:24 Roger Ebert predicting Scream half a decade early.
I don't think the presence of continuity errors counts as a cliché. I understand it's a pet peeve, but it's not an intentional inclusion by the filmmakers.
A cliche is just something that’s predictable or happens often, so the continuity errors could count. It may not be intentional, but they just say these are things they frequently see in movies that drive them crazy
Delta Force, "a fruit cart classic" hahaha
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." I like how The Good, The Bad and The Ugly already roasted that cliche in the 60s.
20:30 they recreated the unbuttoned collar
Opening of the living daylights has a great fruit cart!
One of the biggest continuity goofs: in HER ALIBI Tom Selleck's country house gets blown up in the action climax, then gets magically restored for the romantic denouement!
After Caine said, 'Bloody hell!', that was when Ebert shouted, 'His shirt is dry!' whilst with the preview audience in the movie theater.
Gene inadvertently gave a product placement to Tide.
Roger inadvertently pitched the plot to Scream.
The gun shop owner ALWAYS gets killed!
Siskel & Ebert riffing on memes.
3:24 and now here's a variation on the theme, missed it in the first go
Siskel Ebert dot org's copy has a tease for the 9/24/1988 Gorillas in the Mist episode at the end, so this originally must've aired right before that one. IMDB records its air date as 4/8/1989, so both andyfilm and IMDB must've had copies from a rerun date of this episode.
yes this is my recording of when it ran, which would've been the weekend of 4/8/89 (the show didn't air on the same day in every market). The previous show, 4/1/89 or thereabouts, teased Dead Calm and Major League for "next week". However this episode ran in its place. When they came back on 4/15/89, they reviewed Dead Calm (I uploaded that show also), but did not review Major League. Something must've happened there.
14:24 As a Bond fan I immediately thought of Moonraker.
Product placements bug me, too.
No one in the horror films has ever seen a horror movie? Now I gotta go see one. I’LL BE RIGHT BACK.
This was of course before Scream....
Good Episode
Buttons, buttons, whose got the buttons
nothing wrong with slow motion melon, Gene
Dammit, now you make me wish we could have seen a Sam Peckinpah biopic of Gallagher.
Siskel hates ads in the movies the most - then we get ads for Sinutab etc...
To be fair, Gene was only talking about product placement in the context of the movies. Sinutab is only for promotional consideration on the show, which is common in TV.
MAC AND ME, besides being a shameless ET ripoff, is a feature-length exercise in product placement...
They forgot the "stay right here"
8:38 As good as the movie is, Corey right here could've gotten his father to take his mind off anger by rushing to his mom's aid. 15:52 - :58 Talk about missing the point.
15:10 "Product interruptus" LOL.
What does it tell you when people would rather watch S & E clips from _thirty years ago_ than what's on Netflix right now?
You got me monologuing...
A kin to the talking killer is the person alone with the killer (usually a female) confronts them unarmed and taunts them.
Funny how they mimicked the French Connection Coke placement exactly, but didn't use that clip. But color me shocked that Dirty Harry has lame tropes.
Scene that I would have liked to see in a Rocky film. His opponent is overwhelmingly favored, and betting on Rocky has a high payoff. In the big fight, Rocky hits him once, and then his opponent does a ridiculous act of trying to stay standing, and then collapses. Maybe he pretends to be unconscious and gets carried out of the ring. Cut to the next scene in which the opponent, his trainers, and his backers are collecting the big money. That is real boxing.
RIP
why couldnt they brought up Mac & Me for the product placement gig. that film even have the said product to chip in their two cents.
I think this predates that movie
Good episode, and amazing how many of these have persisted for the last 30+ years, but I have my own take on a few:
- I don’t mind the stupid parents in kid/teen movies; I can rationalize that the movie is focused on an idealized perspective of kids who think, or at least wish, that parents are dumb enough to allow the plot that ensues;
- I agree that something other than a miraculous win would be nice in sports movies (though Dodgeball’s focus group testing suggests that most audiences definitely like the win), but I am more put off by convenient narration by PA announcers and newscasters who offer perspectives that no such person in real life would actually say;
- regardless of talking killers, jump scares, etc., I find that brilliant psychopaths who are always a step ahead and evil make for really boring villains; I would much rather have someone with completely plausible, even sympathetic, motives causing the protagonist problems so that I’m not even completely certain how I want the story to end.
But Friday the 13th Part 6 Woman says I seen a lot of horror movies that a guy with a ski mask is not friendly
Fruit cart films
His shirt is dry!
20:16!
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I love Ebert, but his complaint about the Friday the 13th movies is just stupid. No, the characters in Friday the 13th Part 6 haven't seen Parts 1-5 because THEY ARE CHARACTERS LIVING IN THE WORLD OF THOSE MOVIES.
Mmm.... Sybil Danning!!!
She was the best ... I even love her in that Howling II movie where she's naked but all covered in wolf hair
The person backing up into danger is a tiresome one.
Who cares about such trivial things that must be pointed out to us
I’d praise your wit but I’m not sure the irony was intentional 😬
These "special" shows were bullshit, because that meant we missed their real reviews for that week. They should have done both.
They took vacations like anyone else! Plus it's not as if they couldn't play catch up the following week and review movies that opened a week later or earlier. There were also gaps at certain times of the year where nothing major was being released back then. Not a big deal.
These shows are less dated to watch now though than the regular episodes.
I think it's good to take an occasional break from the norm.
I couldn’t possibly disagree more, these specials were some of my favorites.
@@andyfilm5785 Thank you! Give them a break!
I loved The Exorcist when I first came out, but it did have continuity errors.
TWO BIG ONES. Too bad.
Police Academy 6 better of gotten a great review from Gene because they did what he wanted from the fruit cart