Lovely game, keep them coming please. The game system is rough in places, but the tables are spectacular and there's carnage and that's most important! +1 that smaller battles play better. After a certain size it just becomes more of the same.
I agree. I've been looking at Armageddon armies we've used in some of our older reps and armies in my old space marine battles book. 3k seems a bit much for a casual game
I love what you did with the fortifications up the middle, that was a really nice idea, having buildings in linked sections. Bad luck on the Baneblades though!
Awesome batrep! I've found that 2000p for infantry/tanks/flyers and then however many points you want to agree on titans is the sweet spot for me. If you spend much more on regular troops it just bogs the game down a bit too much... and when each player only has 1 titan, it kinda tends to be the player who takes the others titan out first who wins. More titan points makes a more interesting game imo. I've done 4000p with 2000p titans a few times now and that feels pretty good to me.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah I think 1500 to 2k is a sweet spot for a casual game. Still a lot more play testing to be done! I'm hoping to do bigger games when we get in the studio and get an 8x4 table
I only model Games Workshop products, and have been building a large Legions Imperialis collection, after watching you guys I will be studying the rules.
God-Engine does God-Engine things. Great report guys, it would be interesting to see the TraitorMil bring a pair of Reavers or more Air Support to counter the Warlord and Astarte Numbers. But i agree that LI normally rewards aggression in players. But i think the Astarte had the advantage in mobility and CAF that the TraitorMil would gave always struggled with anyway. Now we're getting Artillery it gives Aux based armies another tool to counter astarte mobility
I've replaced to fighters with Bombers and made the lonely fighter equipped for air to air combat. I've dropped the hound and knight and added a Warmaster, fuck it!
@Tabletop_Standard not really. God engines are acting like God engines should. Warhounds are good, reavers are pretty dominant, warlords live upto the name and warmasters are tge stuff of nightmares. But all can't win a game without support. In the game vs the warmaster i won on objectives and wiped out his other units. All of which im happy about. I'd make knights the same wounds as Baneblades and kratos, so all have three.
Love the battle report. Quick, clear and entertaining. I love the look of the baneblades I have 4. Unfortunately I will not field them. I find that there weapons are too varied to get the most of them. Wildly different ranges and preferred targets for the 6 (?) different weapon types in means they can never really fire effectively. The two wounds for a hundred point tank? I found that mine died about as fast as yours. If it was 3 wounds I would take em. Baneblades look cool but you’re better off getting more Russ’s. The Great Slaughter has rules for a very interesting variant whose name I can’t recall. 105 pts for 4 lascannons, 2 battle cannons and two shred main gun shots? Still only two wounds but it’s weapon load out is a lot more focused and has more shots
Aye, I know what you mean. They're a little underwhelming. 3 wounds seems more appropriate I agree.. The Stormhammer I think is in TGS and I'll invest one day for sure
Completely agree with requiring more LoS blocking terrain. Legions can quickly become a one sided blood bath with too many open lanes. Definitely a game better suited to city fighting. That being said, the table and models looked great, really enjoyed the watch.
Eh. I would arque it works better as non-cityfight. You said firelanes. Well roads essential part of cityfight(no city is without roads). It's hard to avoid firelanes over roads. Nature? Big roadformations block los. Forest blocks los if you play by the book. And in nature you don't need to do straight roads :) Slap multiple forests across board and you have good los blocking. Even warlord titan can hide behind forest unlike most intact buildings. Rural is godbless for screwing long open firelanes. There's reason turn 1 casualties tend to be low in my games :)
Marines are cheap! 😅 Auxilia tanks are pricey but not really any better than a predator. Extra wound here or save there but still go pop under heavy fire
Thank you for doing the 3k report, good to get a sense of what the “optimum” game should look like. Given that you have now played 6-7 games, and you’ve had a chance to reflect on this game, what are your thoughts on the game system? I’m still struggling to get really excited for the game, but looking forward to seeing it played in the flesh at an event in the next 3 weeks. Just feels like a lot of models get removed before they’ve had even a chance of shooting. This could be down to good tactics on Steve’s part, or it could just mean that the overall mechanic just causes this. It’s possible you guys had a lot of fun playing however which offsets the fact that it was a very one sided game? Would love to get your thoughts. Many thanks
It's still too early to call especially at 3k. But yeah it does feel like they have created a game with so many units that things are designed to die easily. You didnt need armies this big to have great games of Armageddon. My gut at this point is 1500 to 2k is a good place. My biggest concern is the missions which involve just throwing as much stuff where the objectives are and using the rest of the battlefeild is pointless. time will tell.
hi guys, love the reports. I just have a question from one of the previous battle reports. Where did you get the models and rules for some of the legion super heavy tanks or were they just for epic?
Great report, 1 hr run time is good, 3k is a ridiculous points total unless maybe you feed in 1k to the battle at a time or something. This game is great fun but its way too lethal
Thank you. I'll have to overview a lot more should we ever get a game go 5 rounds! 3k is huge, I've been looking at army sizes from armageddon and my old space marines battles book and Legions is way bigger. There's really not enough room on the table. I think 1500 to 2k will be a ore casual sweet spot
@@Tabletop_Standardthat's my only problem with the game. It's too "killy". I think some rules need some tweaking *cough cough* ignores cover and garrisoned buildings *cough cough*
GG - I'm firmly in the 'Baneblades need 3 wounds' camp. I have 4 of them, but I'm not at all convinced they are worth running. P.S. did you miss the +1 CAF Solar Aux infantry getting for being in base contact in the fortification fights?
3 wounds seems to be the opinion. If it was building to building fighting we played no bonus. If it was an attack from outside in we may have forgot. I'm often very tired making these
Great batrep guys. I'm super hyped for this game, but I get so dismayed when I see the super-heavies like the Baneblades just get ripped up in a round of shooting. Feels like 2 wounds even with a 2+ save is vulnerable, and sadly makes the game feel like a crapshoot at times. It feels bad because I am sure GW wanted to have a high model count game to sell more things and so "balanced" the speed of the game by just making everything super killable. Wish everything had more wounds and there wasn't so much high AP stuff.
@warkatwargaming2358 A typical filming day for us is 10am till 3/4pm. This fitted that time slot but only because the game stopped at turn 3! I'll have to overview a lot more incase the game ever goes to the wire. Once we move into the studio we should have more time and be able to leave ganes set up over a day or two
It seems like the way it win is with a kind of staged, controlled aggression. Like moving a bunch of stuff forward, Tercios first to soak PD, followed by Ogryns, followed by tanks. Or something like that maybe. I'm seeing the beginning of a pattern but I haven't quite figured it out yet.
Nice table and armies , some rules i think you did wrong, you remember that flyers can only use one save? Armor save OR jink not both. I see a mixed formation of land raider and Rhino which transport some tactical and the commander i think you cannot merge the transport because they are two different detachment but don t have the same rule of the marine Commander, so i don t think you can purchase for them both land raider and Rhino i think you can buy one transport detachment and put all the infantry inside, so all Rhino or all land Raider. But Maybe i forgot something that allow it . Another question, how did you use the Area terrain like the woods? You remember they completely block Los? Give -1 to hit and give 5+ cover to stuff inside?
Great effort, good to see you game as always. Spectacular armies and table. Enjoyable commentary and great presentation. That being said, this is perhaps the first batrep on this channel I’ve seen that didn’t really make me keen to play the game on display myself… I realise the 5x4 table and refused flank didn’t help, but the tank carpark is unattractive in any game. It seemed like a dice-rolling meatgrinder without any flow to the battle, just pushing more units forward or pulling them back without any proper opportunity to maneuver. This game at 3k looks… Ugly. Sorry for the negativity, I must admit I’m getting more and more dubious about their claim that the game is balanced for 3k points. Again, great video, superb production by you guys, thanks a bundle. Would REALLY like to see even an early days compare and contrast vid by you of the LIMP vs Epic Armageddon 30k rules, as you’ve now been exposed to both.
Exactly the kind of comment I was expecting thanks. I wasn't sure whether to make the vid but at the end of the day I'm not promoting GW so made it I did. Yeah I agree 3k felt clumsy and a bit long to be honest. The armies are huge! And I am very slowly making a Legions vs Armageddon video (very slowly) so I'll go into more detail when it finally drops. I personally think 1500 to 2000 on a 5x4 or 6x4 will feel much better. I am not sold on the missions like you say it's just a throw stuff forward roll dice and the most shit that sticks wins. It's still early days so more testing required. Making reps is as much about the rough with the smooth. Cheers mate top comment 👍🏻
@@Tabletop_Standard Well, if so, let me compliment you on taking the effort to make and post it, it scores excellent on both entertainment and information! Very much appreciated.
@aglumm9469 I totally agree. We're moving into a propper studio space later this year so we'll have room for an 8x4 table. I also think the missions don't help the game currently
@@Tabletop_Standard wouldn't change much as the inherint problem with the scenario is he who controls not only gets vp's but also _gets to position it to better defensible position_. Opponent then will not only have to get units between him and objective killed but also get to objective which is hard because the objective is now behind units you can't go over. It's similar scenario to 40k servo skull but there you are moving objective FORWARD ie toward the enemy. So you might be scoring points but enemy has easier time to get objective back...
I believe you are assigning combats incorrectly, for example at @40:00, fights are paired and assigned at the start of combat, you mention multiple times that the last guy will have to fight twice, then he dies in the first fight he does, the last Sol Aux Ogryn now does not fight because what he was 2 vs 1 is dead, you do not just find him a new opponent to fight even though in a building everything is considered engaged.
If it's of consolidiation to loser can't have been perfect 100 point game :D For one the maximum for the scenario is 90(5 times 3 objectives each 5 pts=5*15=75 pts and 15 for secondary). Also RG had only 10 pts from turn 1 so maximum 85 :) (no 10 pts painted army rule like 40k luckily)
Knights and warhound can't be deployed alone in front of a Belicosa volcano cannon.. Was 700 lost points for nothing. Knights should cost 33% less in my opinion. I never see a knight inflicts more damage than he proper cost.
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Hey gents, don’t forget buildings are +1 to hit. Apoc launchers hit buildings on 3+.
Great batrep!
We did indeed forget 😁
@@Tabletop_Standard yeah when you consider the +1 to-hit for buildings, those apoc launchers are suddenly pretty good at demolition!
Lovely game, keep them coming please. The game system is rough in places, but the tables are spectacular and there's carnage and that's most important!
+1 that smaller battles play better. After a certain size it just becomes more of the same.
I agree. I've been looking at Armageddon armies we've used in some of our older reps and armies in my old space marine battles book. 3k seems a bit much for a casual game
Table size will also mitigate this as well. I recommend no more then 2000 pts for their 4x5 tables.@@Tabletop_Standard
The additional foot making a battlefield 4x6 also helps spread the game out a bit.
We'll have an 8x4 by the summer hopefully
I love what you did with the fortifications up the middle, that was a really nice idea, having buildings in linked sections. Bad luck on the Baneblades though!
Thanks. I was hoping to have a dual attack but the Warlord really put me off that side of the board!
Great battle report! You guys do a splendid job of showing the battlefield movement and explaining your resoning behind it! Keep up the good content!
Cheers mate. Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Awesome batrep!
I've found that 2000p for infantry/tanks/flyers and then however many points you want to agree on titans is the sweet spot for me. If you spend much more on regular troops it just bogs the game down a bit too much... and when each player only has 1 titan, it kinda tends to be the player who takes the others titan out first who wins. More titan points makes a more interesting game imo. I've done 4000p with 2000p titans a few times now and that feels pretty good to me.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah I think 1500 to 2k is a sweet spot for a casual game. Still a lot more play testing to be done! I'm hoping to do bigger games when we get in the studio and get an 8x4 table
I only model Games Workshop products, and have been building a large Legions Imperialis collection, after watching you guys I will be studying the rules.
There's a lot of em! Hope you enjoy it
God-Engine does God-Engine things.
Great report guys, it would be interesting to see the TraitorMil bring a pair of Reavers or more Air Support to counter the Warlord and Astarte Numbers.
But i agree that LI normally rewards aggression in players. But i think the Astarte had the advantage in mobility and CAF that the TraitorMil would gave always struggled with anyway. Now we're getting Artillery it gives Aux based armies another tool to counter astarte mobility
I've replaced to fighters with Bombers and made the lonely fighter equipped for air to air combat. I've dropped the hound and knight and added a Warmaster, fuck it!
@Tabletop_Standard oooooooof I played vs a warmaster. It was not enjoyable in the slightest.
@thehandoftheking3314 I can believe it! I think the assets in games need a bit of comping, perhaps?
@Tabletop_Standard not really.
God engines are acting like God engines should. Warhounds are good, reavers are pretty dominant, warlords live upto the name and warmasters are tge stuff of nightmares. But all can't win a game without support. In the game vs the warmaster i won on objectives and wiped out his other units. All of which im happy about. I'd make knights the same wounds as Baneblades and kratos, so all have three.
Love this. Please keep them coming, but please let flyers jink and use their armour!
You can only use one save or the other mate. Hopefully a filming again next week 🤞🏻
The ravenguard look great. The warlord looks amazing. Great painting Steve
Thanks 😊
Love the battle report. Quick, clear and entertaining.
I love the look of the baneblades I have 4.
Unfortunately I will not field them. I find that there weapons are too varied to get the most of them.
Wildly different ranges and preferred targets for the 6 (?) different weapon types in means they can never really fire effectively.
The two wounds for a hundred point tank? I found that mine died about as fast as yours. If it was 3 wounds I would take em.
Baneblades look cool but you’re better off getting more Russ’s. The Great Slaughter has rules for a very interesting variant whose name I can’t recall. 105 pts for 4 lascannons, 2 battle cannons and two shred main gun shots? Still only two wounds but it’s weapon load out is a lot more focused and has more shots
Aye, I know what you mean. They're a little underwhelming. 3 wounds seems more appropriate I agree.. The Stormhammer I think is in TGS and I'll invest one day for sure
I think we'll get 3 wounds on the Superheavies in an errata soon
Armies and terrain look spot one as always!
Thank you
Great batrep!! Super cool looking armies and scenery.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it 🙂
For the record rulebook recommemds forest as obstructing(so difficult terrain that blocks los). I find good as well to reduce carnage
Completely agree with requiring more LoS blocking terrain. Legions can quickly become a one sided blood bath with too many open lanes.
Definitely a game better suited to city fighting.
That being said, the table and models looked great, really enjoyed the watch.
Eh. I would arque it works better as non-cityfight. You said firelanes. Well roads essential part of cityfight(no city is without roads). It's hard to avoid firelanes over roads.
Nature? Big roadformations block los. Forest blocks los if you play by the book. And in nature you don't need to do straight roads :)
Slap multiple forests across board and you have good los blocking. Even warlord titan can hide behind forest unlike most intact buildings.
Rural is godbless for screwing long open firelanes.
There's reason turn 1 casualties tend to be low in my games :)
that oneshot on the warhound was painful to watch. how did he ,manage to have a warlord and still have more units than u? lol
Marines are cheap! 😅 Auxilia tanks are pricey but not really any better than a predator. Extra wound here or save there but still go pop under heavy fire
Thank you for doing the 3k report, good to get a sense of what the “optimum” game should look like.
Given that you have now played 6-7 games, and you’ve had a chance to reflect on this game, what are your thoughts on the game system? I’m still struggling to get really excited for the game, but looking forward to seeing it played in the flesh at an event in the next 3 weeks.
Just feels like a lot of models get removed before they’ve had even a chance of shooting. This could be down to good tactics on Steve’s part, or it could just mean that the overall mechanic just causes this. It’s possible you guys had a lot of fun playing however which offsets the fact that it was a very one sided game? Would love to get your thoughts.
Many thanks
It's still too early to call especially at 3k. But yeah it does feel like they have created a game with so many units that things are designed to die easily. You didnt need armies this big to have great games of Armageddon. My gut at this point is 1500 to 2k is a good place. My biggest concern is the missions which involve just throwing as much stuff where the objectives are and using the rest of the battlefeild is pointless. time will tell.
Great battle report, thanks. Where did you get the flyer’s stands please?
Home made bud. Check out our community tab I've a post there about them. Just scroll down a bit
hi guys, love the reports. I just have a question from one of the previous battle reports. Where did you get the models and rules for some of the legion super heavy tanks or were they just for epic?
We have a lot of printed stock due to the fact epic has been long supported by the fans long before GW decided to re-introduce Legions imperialis
Keep it up lads, great inspiration while I’m paining my own army up 👌
Cheers bud
Great report, 1 hr run time is good, 3k is a ridiculous points total unless maybe you feed in 1k to the battle at a time or something. This game is great fun but its way too lethal
Thank you. I'll have to overview a lot more should we ever get a game go 5 rounds! 3k is huge, I've been looking at army sizes from armageddon and my old space marines battles book and Legions is way bigger. There's really not enough room on the table. I think 1500 to 2k will be a ore casual sweet spot
Ooof that went quick at 3K! Good Bat rep 👍
Let's face it it was two turns 😵💫
@@Tabletop_Standardthat's my only problem with the game. It's too "killy". I think some rules need some tweaking *cough cough* ignores cover and garrisoned buildings *cough cough*
@@Tabletop_Standard will be interesting to see if that’s how the 3K games tend to roll.
GG - I'm firmly in the 'Baneblades need 3 wounds' camp. I have 4 of them, but I'm not at all convinced they are worth running.
P.S. did you miss the +1 CAF Solar Aux infantry getting for being in base contact in the fortification fights?
3 wounds seems to be the opinion. If it was building to building fighting we played no bonus. If it was an attack from outside in we may have forgot. I'm often very tired making these
@@Tabletop_Standard You did sound exhausted, definitely lacking your usual energy. The joys of small children eh?
Oh aye. I'm running on fumes 😅
Finally a warlord. Great video
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 😊
Great batrep guys. I'm super hyped for this game, but I get so dismayed when I see the super-heavies like the Baneblades just get ripped up in a round of shooting. Feels like 2 wounds even with a 2+ save is vulnerable, and sadly makes the game feel like a crapshoot at times. It feels bad because I am sure GW wanted to have a high model count game to sell more things and so "balanced" the speed of the game by just making everything super killable. Wish everything had more wounds and there wasn't so much high AP stuff.
I feel the same. I'm also not sold on the missions. But it's still early days!
@Tabletop_Standard have you tried using the Epic Armageddon tournament mission rules/scoring?
It's on my to do list for sure
This was superb to listen to, v v cool.
Thanks very much 😄
Had a similar experience with my SA last game. I have a feeling the point value of their armour is too high.
You don't feel like you're getting your points worth out of them, do ya 🫠
The Baneblades are pretty underwhelming, but what about the Vanquisher cannons everyone is saying break the game?@@Tabletop_Standard
I had 5 of them. I didn't hit particularly well with them. I won't be taking any meta lists ots really not why I play Table top ganes
Okay I'm two weeks late to the party but where the heck did those landspeeders and jetbikes come from? They are probably months from coming out.
The printer 🖨 😄
That's what should marines do "standard armies", by the lore of course)
😄 Valid point
Cheers on the tip for crossfire
Hats off to you. 3000 points. Most I have done is 1500 and they were big
1500 to 2k feels like a nice place. A lot more games to play before I can really make any real opinions
@Tabletop_Standard It does but this is what we all want to see. Mind me asking howclong did the game take with all the filming?
@warkatwargaming2358 A typical filming day for us is 10am till 3/4pm. This fitted that time slot but only because the game stopped at turn 3! I'll have to overview a lot more incase the game ever goes to the wire. Once we move into the studio we should have more time and be able to leave ganes set up over a day or two
@Tabletop_Standard keep doing that your doing. Great battle reports
Cheers bud. Much appreciated. Not gonna lie. Putting vids out on YT is always a massive anticlimax for the effort put in 😅
Might be a weird and overly specific question, but where are all the trees on the terrain from?
Perfectly reasonable question. Ebay/ China 😄
It seems like the way it win is with a kind of staged, controlled aggression. Like moving a bunch of stuff forward, Tercios first to soak PD, followed by Ogryns, followed by tanks. Or something like that maybe. I'm seeing the beginning of a pattern but I haven't quite figured it out yet.
Nor have we bud 😅
Great video! Will there be more epic 40k?
Yes mate eventually, we have the 2nd Armageddon narrative to do from the rule book. I'd like to see the Eldar on the table again as well.
Nice table and armies , some rules i think you did wrong, you remember that flyers can only use one save? Armor save OR jink not both. I see a mixed formation of land raider and Rhino which transport some tactical and the commander i think you cannot merge the transport because they are two different detachment but don t have the same rule of the marine Commander, so i don t think you can purchase for them both land raider and Rhino i think you can buy one transport detachment and put all the infantry inside, so all Rhino or all land Raider. But Maybe i forgot something that allow it . Another question, how did you use the Area terrain like the woods? You remember they completely block Los? Give -1 to hit and give 5+ cover to stuff inside?
We did only use one save for the flyers, you can mix transports for command and the forests did indeed block line of sight in the game.
@@Tabletop_Standard exactly where you find you can mix transport? I didn t find
P129 of the main rulebook. Dedicated Transports my man
@@Tabletop_Standard rule book is messy not easy to find all rules
😄 Classic GW I'm afraid.
Great effort, good to see you game as always. Spectacular armies and table. Enjoyable commentary and great presentation.
That being said, this is perhaps the first batrep on this channel I’ve seen that didn’t really make me keen to play the game on display myself… I realise the 5x4 table and refused flank didn’t help, but the tank carpark is unattractive in any game. It seemed like a dice-rolling meatgrinder without any flow to the battle, just pushing more units forward or pulling them back without any proper opportunity to maneuver.
This game at 3k looks… Ugly. Sorry for the negativity, I must admit I’m getting more and more dubious about their claim that the game is balanced for 3k points.
Again, great video, superb production by you guys, thanks a bundle. Would REALLY like to see even an early days compare and contrast vid by you of the LIMP vs Epic Armageddon 30k rules, as you’ve now been exposed to both.
Exactly the kind of comment I was expecting thanks. I wasn't sure whether to make the vid but at the end of the day I'm not promoting GW so made it I did.
Yeah I agree 3k felt clumsy and a bit long to be honest. The armies are huge! And I am very slowly making a Legions vs Armageddon video (very slowly) so I'll go into more detail when it finally drops.
I personally think 1500 to 2000 on a 5x4 or 6x4 will feel much better. I am not sold on the missions like you say it's just a throw stuff forward roll dice and the most shit that sticks wins.
It's still early days so more testing required. Making reps is as much about the rough with the smooth.
Cheers mate top comment 👍🏻
@@Tabletop_Standard Well, if so, let me compliment you on taking the effort to make and post it, it scores excellent on both entertainment and information! Very much appreciated.
38:47 probably already said but Ogyrns have Furious Charge so +2 not +1
Nope! Missed that rule. Cheers bud
Are those Mkhand pattern Leman Russes?
No idea? They were printed a long while ago for our epic armageddon 30k games, hence why they have sponsons that we don't use now.
That solar army looks like it’s only 2k points!
Tanks are expensive!
What size mat were you guys playing on?
5x4 ft
I reckon 6x4 should definitely be standard for 3k. I play 6x4 for 2k. It makes the game a lot more tactical and less kamakazi
@aglumm9469 I totally agree. We're moving into a propper studio space later this year so we'll have room for an 8x4 table. I also think the missions don't help the game currently
Where did you get jetbikes?
Printed my man
@@Tabletop_Standard wow I need to find some of these STLs
Burn those bloody dice 😂
Aftes seeing list and scenario predicting rg win, let's see if i guessed right :)
Not surprised of result. The scenario follows this pattern pretty often. Seen only 1 game where 1st player controlling 2 objectives doesn't win
I'm currently not sold on the sticky objectives. It feels like throw as much shit as possible and see what sticks
@@Tabletop_Standard wouldn't change much as the inherint problem with the scenario is he who controls not only gets vp's but also _gets to position it to better defensible position_. Opponent then will not only have to get units between him and objective killed but also get to objective which is hard because the objective is now behind units you can't go over. It's similar scenario to 40k servo skull but there you are moving objective FORWARD ie toward the enemy. So you might be scoring points but enemy has easier time to get objective back...
It is an infantry game, I'm afraid. Armor may pave the way for victory, but the infantry secure it.
I'm only really interested in tanks 😅
Well, when the Dracosans come out, you can put your infantry in something tank "like" :D
😄 true that! I have a lot of plastics from the starter set to make a new solar aux army. Need some artillery as well
More L Imp please!
They'll be more
I believe you are assigning combats incorrectly, for example at @40:00, fights are paired and assigned at the start of combat, you mention multiple times that the last guy will have to fight twice, then he dies in the first fight he does, the last Sol Aux Ogryn now does not fight because what he was 2 vs 1 is dead, you do not just find him a new opponent to fight even though in a building everything is considered engaged.
Those orange dice were terrible!
New dice syndrome
If it's of consolidiation to loser can't have been perfect 100 point game :D For one the maximum for the scenario is 90(5 times 3 objectives each 5 pts=5*15=75 pts and 15 for secondary). Also RG had only 10 pts from turn 1 so maximum 85 :) (no 10 pts painted army rule like 40k luckily)
It was really more the fact Steve had scored across the board on all missions and I'd scored a big fat 0
the game doesnt seem very balanced....
Just a snapshot in time. More games need to be played
Knights and warhound can't be deployed alone in front of a Belicosa volcano cannon.. Was 700 lost points for nothing.
Knights should cost 33% less in my opinion. I never see a knight inflicts more damage than he proper cost.
It's a God-Engine mate, you need a plan or another one to take them on.