Fun fact: The only reason The Godfather is Nr. 2 instead of Nr. 1 on Imdb is because of The Dark Knight fanboys. Back in 2008 they review-bombed The Godfather on Imdb to knock it from its first place and tried to get The Dark Knight to the top. While The Dark Knight never actually reached Nr. 1 of Imdb, the mass-downvoting of The Godfather caused it to fall behind Nr. 2 on Imdb, The Shawshank Redemption, and it has been that way ever since.
Ian Beach TDK fan boys aren’t actual comic book nerds, though. lmao I don’t think they have the attention span to read anything let alone comics (which is probably why they don’t like slower paced movies like the Godfather). I’m pretty sure they’re just edgy 13 year olds who liked Heath Ledger’s Joker and unironically want to be like him. And to clarify, I’m not saying you have to be an idiot to like TDK, it is a great movie, I’m just saying these guys are.
There are great artists who didnt know what Maguffin was. Like David Cage, who stared that a maguffin was a basically a plot hole or red herring you dont have to explain and that every story is allowed to have one.
0:00 - Intro 7:08 - The Godfather (1972) 37:34 - The Godfather Part II (1974) 56:12 - The Godfather Part III (1990) 1:25:18 - Q&A 1:25:35 -- Have you had any bad hair cuts or clothing styles when you were young? 1:29:03 -- Have Adam had a strange encounter with a Canadian Goose? 1:34:39 -- How do you rate factual documentaries compared to fictional movies? 1:41:24 -- What are your favourite Movie MacGuffins? 1:44:10 -- What genre would you explore if you had the ability to make a feature film? 1:49:10 - Ralph's Recommendation: Ex Machina (2014)
I think my favorite little detail in the first Godfather is when he's reconnecting with his first girlfriend after returning from Italy. Throughout the film, variations of the iconic tune play when "business" is done: Vito and the undertaker, the horse head scene, etc. When Michael is courting Apollonia, it's not present, in favor of a different tune, suggesting he genuinely loves her. However, when she is killed and he returns to propose to Kay, it's playing softly in a background. Because after Apollonia's death, his transformation is basically total. It's not about him loving Kay, marrying her, and having kids with her: it's about needing her to marry and have kids with.
Howdy, someone who's read the godfather book here to answer the question at around 1:07:40: movie 1 was almost entirely adapted from the book. Movie 2 was original, but all of the Vito flashbacks come from the book, basically beat for beat. Movie 3 was adapted from Francis Coppola's need to keep the lights on.
I remember the first time I saw Godfather III and Sofia Coppola's first scene I thought her character had some sort of speech impediment, and was looking forward to seeing why that decision was made and how that would impact the story. I turned out that was just the way she sounded.
Ah, my favorite two films of all-time. My late grandfather first showed them to me at the tender age of 10. Probably shouldn’t have, and I didn’t get any of it anyways. I read the novel by Puzo when I was 14. Still remember the shock when the Turk tried to assassinate the Don, called my grandfather on the phone almost immediately. Similar thing happened with “look at how they massacred my boy.” After I finished reading, I rewatched the films with the old man. Several times. About once a year AMC would have a “Godfather weekend,” and I’d always spend it over at my grandparents’ house. Sometimes they played the scenes in chronological order, meaning the first scene would be kid Vito in Sicily and the last scenes being Fredo getting wacked and Michael slamming the door on Kay. Of course, Nana took control of the television when they would show the third one. My grandfather wasn’t Italian, by the way. He was Swedish-Portuguese, but he loved pasta and mob films. I’m 23 now. The old fart kicked the bucket several years ago. But I still have his copy of the book and the vintage VHS of the films.
My grandfather died when I was three, but my family would always watch both films (we do not acknowledge a third, and MY Nana was too sweet to change the channel if the cousins were enjoying themselves, but someone would always do it) on AMC on Thanksgiving and the copy of the book I read is his, one of the few “civilian” copies of his signature we have is in the front of the book. We’re Irish but my family is from Brooklyn, which was always given as an explanation for certain “non-Irish” behavior XD
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 I dont think he cares, when you actually *watch* his movies instead of his interviews, you can just kinda tell through the differences of the movies he used to make vs the movies he makes now. Old looks like it's going to be the laziest thriller next to... well Happening, which is another movie he directed.
The power skipped Fredo because he was seen as incompetent. He was sent to Vegas in Part 1 just to keep him out of the way. It's also not a monarchy. There's a bunch of mafia rules to adhere to, but there's no chain of succession or anything.
@Michaelangelo Did you create that? Nice job dude I also really like that David statue you made a few centuries ago, good stuff. When will you be making more Renaissance Italy stuff? The fans deserve it
@@WiloPolis03 Haha, to not take false-credit, that isn't me who created that poster. I just commented coz I appreciated you bringing my (and others') attention to somebody else's artwork. I will try get back to my old Renaissance stuff though. Good shit
I watched the first two with my son recently. That "look know they massacred my boy" is fucking heartbreaking, but we couldn't help giggling as we watched it bc of the way it's become a meme.
The impression that I got was that even though Don Vito doesn't condone drugs, he's mostly afraid of hurting his reputation and loosing his political contacts.
I think that what they were going with the ending wasn't that he die of old age: it was that he died alone. The movie is about he losing his powers, family and friends, and the last shot is him dying just falling with nothing around him. The execution was really bad and I don't know how many people got that, but it's not something totally disconnected IMO.
I worked in a movie theater for a bit, and most 20 year olds considered The Godfather boring because it's a "Boomer movie". Breaks my heart. At least have a solid articulated reason to dislike something and I'll back off. But just not liking a movie because it's old is fucking stupid.
Maybe they genuinely dislike it but won't elaborate. I don't hate any movie "because it's old". It might be disengaging, overacted, etc. Even if it's a classic everyone is "supposed" to enjoy.
Unfortunately that's how a lot of the kids my age are, I once mentioned "Schindler's List" and two people asked me what it was. It's so disappointing and frustrating.
It was worse than that. After Winona dropped out Francis replaced her with an actual actress who was murdered in her trailer just days before production. That's why Sofia was cast, they were just about to shoot when one of the stars of the film was killed, who else could they have put just days before production?
@@goblinburner Easy mistake to make. I was one of the only Italians in a rural Southern school system for a while, friend and foe alike called me ‘the Jew’ all throughout middle school. By high school everyone had seen the Sopranos, thank Yahweh.
The HBO-GO version of The Godfather: A Novel for Television is the best version of the chronological cut; it's 7 hours long, the violence is re-inserted (it was notoriously toned down at the time), and it's got no commercial breaks (in their words: there are no pauses. YOU, the viewer, get to make your own breaks). I've seen it multiple times and it's a whole beast of its own design. Still doesn't compare to the 2 movies separately but it's worth a watch
Part III really should've been about how Michael grew to be the exact counterpoint to his father--a loveless and ruthless Don with nothing but cunning, power and avarice to comfort him, ruling the game but having no real kin anymore. That would've also made it much more brutal a message against getting mixed up in that kind of life, the perfect tragic ending to a character who started out a war hero with a limitless future and a close network of loved ones.
If you love The Godfather then check out "The Godfather Notebook." It's Francis Ford Coppola's journal from the 70s of how he planned to adapt the novel, cast roles, which parts of the book to cut, etc.
The reason Sofia Coppola was cast was because Francis Ford Coppola had already decided on an actress by the name of Rebecca Schaeffer when she was murdered by a stalker so soon to the production of The Godfather 3 that Francis was rushed into a very last minute choice. It wasn't NOT nepotism but Sofia was never the first choice for the role. Just wanted to add that because I don't think that's a common fact about the movie.
Or a whole episode dedicated to Satoshi Kon since he only has 4 (completed) full length films, excluding writing credits and the series "Paranoia Agent".
The magic of Sardonicast . I love you guys. Keep going strong, and stay safe. This is just what i needed. Thank you . I hope Alex feels better soon. Probably the most predatory animal in UK, Alex forgot to say is a Bull. They scare the hell out of anyone esp when its mating season. Walking even near a field where one is stood freaks me out.
Just rewatched part III a couple of days ago. I understand why people would like it less than the other 2. I don't understand why anybody would rate it lower than a 7/10. It is still a solid film. I really think people bandwagon along how bad it is. It is really not that bad.
@@gab_gallard maybe because michaels death is executed horribly, every new character is uninteresting, the movie’s cinematography isn’t as good as the original 2 and the movie was only made for money? Oh and Sofia Coppola
@@pontagamingg275 I disagree with everything you said so I don't think we can have a productive discussion xD To each their own. I liked the film. In retrospect, I like it more than Part II (which I honestly believe is the most boring one of the trilogy, most of the whole Cuba section should be cut out of the film, ruins the pacing and doesn't add much besides lenght). I still consider Part I vastly superior to both.
Could you guys discuss a Tarkovsky film or one by a similar director in one of your future episodes? I especially enjoy your thoughts and discussion on much more alternative films. In any case great show guys, keep it up!
For people who’ve heard the episode: I’ve only seen part one, can I listen to what they say about the first movie without having one of the sequels spoiled for me? Or do they reference all three films even when only talking about one?
@@tasamolic Oh, that was stupid of me. Right. Well, I think he could, then. I don't recall them getting into the others in that part of the discussion.
There is an incredible interview w Coppola done by PTA, David O. Russell and Catherine Hardwick that was put on by the DGA. Its on RUclips and is deffinetly worth your time!
O N yeah it’s got a more generic 90’s Spielberg type vibe that causes it to be a step down from the rest of the Scorsese and Coppola movies. Feels more like a blockbuster than the rest.
Fun fact about that guy in the first movie who was super nervous: he was actually a Mafia member who was on the set to see what they were doing, hence why he was so nervous.
I am so fucking happy Alex mentioned the Roblox Machinima's on Amazon Prime. I have seen "Roblox: The Last Quest" in my recommended for months and I wasn't sure if I was just hallucinating or not.
21:38 “vaffanculo” means “fuck you” ;3. Btw as an Italian the second movie italian accents parts are so thick that when we watched it we couldn’t understand most of it, me and my friends had to use the English subtitles as the italian ones are missing on netflix.
One of you recommend The Beach. My number 1 guilty pleasure movie. It represents the end of the 90s so personally to me. I have seen the first half of that movie countless times, and the second half half as much.. But NO other movie I can think of encapsulates better the concept of the setting as a character.
Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 7:08 - The Godfather (1972) 37:34 - The Godfather Part II (1974) 56:12 - The Godfather Part III (1990) 1:25:18 - Q&A 1:25:35 -- Have you had any bad hair cuts or clothing styles when you were young? 1:29:03 -- Have Adam had a strange encounter with a Canadian Goose? 1:34:39 -- How do you rate factual documentaries compared to fictional movies? 1:41:24 -- What are your favourite Movie MacGuffins? 1:44:10 -- What genre would you explore if you had the ability to make a feature film? 1:49:10 - Ralph's Recommendation: Ex Machina (2014) Timestamps by Foxtrod
Coppola cut parts I & II together w/some extra footage for TV in 1977, putting the events in chronological order. This version still airs from time to time, but there is also a version that includes Part III that hasn't seen the light of day since 1992
Aw man, I wish I was in this episode so bad, nothing would please me more than to discuss my favourite movie trilogy (minus the third) with my favourite reviewer trilogy
Love that movie along with who’s that knocking on my door. Totally gets you into the little Italy scene like you’re really there. Feels like Scorsese learning to make a movie which is cool with all the experimental shots too.
@@theeoddments960 I love it. It's also Scorsese's most chaotic film. It feels at times like the movie is completely out of control at times. Which works great with the ending. Mean Streets is one of those movies you have to see if you want to call yourself a film buff, or if you even want to make one. I can't tell you how many directors I've seen tell the same story. Saw Mean Streets, changed their lives forever. It sounds crazy saying this about a Scorsese movie. But Mean Streets has to be one of the most underrated films of all time.
I have bad asthma. So I got COVID before COVID was a thing. Joy. I'm in my 8th week of isolation. When ppl think asthma is not a serious thing, whelpppp.
What a coincidence that I watched the first two Godfather movies for the first time for my History Of Film class, and now you guys are doing an episode about it. I'm still deciding whether or not I should watch the 3rd one.
I asked the goose question. The reason I singled Adam out is because I thought Canadian geese were named as such because they could only be found in Canada, and since Adam is the only Canadian here... in short, I'm a dumbass
Honestly, The Godfather Part III should've never been titled that, like the Redditor said. It should've just been two films, with an extra one with a different title.
That was for “The Godfather, Part II”, but that flashback works better without seeing Don Vito Corleone; his presence was so powerful he doesn’t need to be seen. Also, I think Ralph implied Marlon Brando was Italian-American, which he wasn’t. According to Wikipedia, he was of English, Irish, German, and Dutch.
I watched The Godfather Trilogy a few months ago for the first time. The Godfather (1972) and The Godfather Part II (1974) are without exaggeration the best films ever made. Absolute masterpieces. The Godfather Part III (1990) was frankly not as bad as I thought it would be. The bad reputation of this film is not unfounded especially when you compare it to Part I and II. But as a separate film? It's actually not that bad. The Godfather Part III (1990) is definitely a downgrade from its predecessors, but it's still a good film and an acceptable end to this Trilogy.
Fun fact: The only reason The Godfather is Nr. 2 instead of Nr. 1 on Imdb is because of The Dark Knight fanboys. Back in 2008 they review-bombed The Godfather on Imdb to knock it from its first place and tried to get The Dark Knight to the top. While The Dark Knight never actually reached Nr. 1 of Imdb, the mass-downvoting of The Godfather caused it to fall behind Nr. 2 on Imdb, The Shawshank Redemption, and it has been that way ever since.
TDK was at a 10/10 for atleast a month after it's release.
RickRaptor105 the Dark Knight is a masterpiece by the Godfather is better!
RickRaptor105 only comic book fanboys, I swear. TDK is a great movie, but only comic book nerds do this shit.
Ian Beach TDK fan boys aren’t actual comic book nerds, though. lmao I don’t think they have the attention span to read anything let alone comics (which is probably why they don’t like slower paced movies like the Godfather). I’m pretty sure they’re just edgy 13 year olds who liked Heath Ledger’s Joker and unironically want to be like him. And to clarify, I’m not saying you have to be an idiot to like TDK, it is a great movie, I’m just saying these guys are.
Tony Stonks The dark Knight is so shitty
‘I HATE Covid-19’ coming soon, stay tuned.
If he hates everything does it mean he hates himself?
Do I HATE Mars Bars
@@balabanasireti If he hates everything does it mean he hates himself?
@@esavalila576 god that's funny
Shafiq Iqmal yes
The Virgin Godfather trilogy v. THE CHAD DIARY OF A WIMPY KID TRILOGY v. *THE THAD MADAGASCAR TRILOGY*
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Passione Nera obvious redditor is obvious
@@balabanasireti pls delet
Adum, the most movie-savvy person of the three: *What's a MacGuffin?*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wtf Adam.
@@YMS HOW????????
Just how???????
There are great artists who didnt know what Maguffin was. Like David Cage, who stared that a maguffin was a basically a plot hole or red herring you dont have to explain and that every story is allowed to have one.
this fucking idiot doesn't even know that this is the new McDonalds burger
0:00 - Intro
7:08 - The Godfather (1972)
37:34 - The Godfather Part II (1974)
56:12 - The Godfather Part III (1990)
1:25:18 - Q&A
1:25:35 -- Have you had any bad hair cuts or clothing styles when you were young?
1:29:03 -- Have Adam had a strange encounter with a Canadian Goose?
1:34:39 -- How do you rate factual documentaries compared to fictional movies?
1:41:24 -- What are your favourite Movie MacGuffins?
1:44:10 -- What genre would you explore if you had the ability to make a feature film?
1:49:10 - Ralph's Recommendation: Ex Machina (2014)
Don't need this anymore
A true legend
how are you commenting in the past?
They're Patrons
I’m assuming they spoil the godfather movies?
Damn. It sucks to hear that Alex might have it. Feel better!
I love how appropriate it was to end the video with Alex’s cough.
That's how you make it...viral.
How did you say this 3 days ago
@@samuelwoods7832 I'm from the past ;p it's 3 hrs not days mate hehe
@@samuelwoods7832 Patreon gets these videos early
Matt Berg-Cody oh ok
I think my favorite little detail in the first Godfather is when he's reconnecting with his first girlfriend after returning from Italy. Throughout the film, variations of the iconic tune play when "business" is done: Vito and the undertaker, the horse head scene, etc. When Michael is courting Apollonia, it's not present, in favor of a different tune, suggesting he genuinely loves her. However, when she is killed and he returns to propose to Kay, it's playing softly in a background. Because after Apollonia's death, his transformation is basically total. It's not about him loving Kay, marrying her, and having kids with her: it's about needing her to marry and have kids with.
I love this. great interpretation
💯💯
Howdy, someone who's read the godfather book here to answer the question at around 1:07:40: movie 1 was almost entirely adapted from the book. Movie 2 was original, but all of the Vito flashbacks come from the book, basically beat for beat. Movie 3 was adapted from Francis Coppola's need to keep the lights on.
Corbin Markey Coppola lost it after Apocalypse Now
I really enjoyed reading the book, after finishing the movies.
And holy, they really adapted it, like you are supposed to.
@@jasonvorhees1795 the book is really excellent in it's own right if you can stomach some of the trashier, pulpy sections lol
@@alejandrojoseglinoga1527 I was saying that to my friend lol
Part iii was originally meant to be about a rift between Michael and Tom hagen. Dicaprio was also meant to have a part
All those horrendous discount kids films have finally taken their toll. Get well soon Captain Alex!
How did you comment 5 days ago when this came out today?
@@SamSajadi Patreon! Patrons get the episode as soon as Adam finishes editing rather than having to wait for Friday.
Pateron early watcher.
Well at least we'il know who killed captain Alex
@@heisenbaj I see, good to know!
I remember the first time I saw Godfather III and Sofia Coppola's first scene I thought her character had some sort of speech impediment, and was looking forward to seeing why that decision was made and how that would impact the story.
I turned out that was just the way she sounded.
It insists upon itself
Peter, what does that even mean?
I love The Money Pit.
@@bondfall0072 Because it has a valid point to make
I loved Adams cameo in the bed scene in part 1
The horse head in the begging
@@haydenbarker9829 begging horse head!? What.. are you having to pay for sarah Jessica Parker's shopping trip or sumtin
@@blacktoothfox677 So close but so far
@@HumansFreshlyBorn like your parents
2019 Lion King remake
Adam: Look how they massacred my boy!
I've actually got the clip set aside in case it winds up in the video
@@YMS God bless. Can't wait
@@YMS I think you should use it tbh. I know the video is already a film trilogy in of itself, but still it's too good to pass up.
In terms of epicness:
Madagascar Trilogy > The Godfather Trilogy
Not as epic as Aquaman
@@joshuapoon3092 True. Nothing beats Aquaman in epicness.
@@podrickpayne2537 epic with a k, an epik of epik epikness, this is the only way to accurately describe the sheer epikness of aquaman
It's FACTUALLY EPIC
I unironically agree. I like them cHunKy.
Michael dying at the end of part 2 would have really blunted the endings impact. Michael has to live with what he’s done.
Ah, my favorite two films of all-time.
My late grandfather first showed them to me at the tender age of 10. Probably shouldn’t have, and I didn’t get any of it anyways.
I read the novel by Puzo when I was 14. Still remember the shock when the Turk tried to assassinate the Don, called my grandfather on the phone almost immediately. Similar thing happened with “look at how they massacred my boy.”
After I finished reading, I rewatched the films with the old man. Several times. About once a year AMC would have a “Godfather weekend,” and I’d always spend it over at my grandparents’ house. Sometimes they played the scenes in chronological order, meaning the first scene would be kid Vito in Sicily and the last scenes being Fredo getting wacked and Michael slamming the door on Kay.
Of course, Nana took control of the television when they would show the third one.
My grandfather wasn’t Italian, by the way. He was Swedish-Portuguese, but he loved pasta and mob films.
I’m 23 now. The old fart kicked the bucket several years ago. But I still have his copy of the book and the vintage VHS of the films.
I read the book as a child and well, I don't remember anything by now...
My grandfather died when I was three, but my family would always watch both films (we do not acknowledge a third, and MY Nana was too sweet to change the channel if the cousins were enjoying themselves, but someone would always do it) on AMC on Thanksgiving and the copy of the book I read is his, one of the few “civilian” copies of his signature we have is in the front of the book. We’re Irish but my family is from Brooklyn, which was always given as an explanation for certain “non-Irish” behavior XD
I'm so glad Martin Scorsese hasn't lost his touch.
Tbh I don't think it's directors necessarily losing their touch or becoming bad.
Just more they stopped giving a shit
@Thibault Loughrey M Night Shyamalan does give a shit a bout the movies he makes, but all his movies keep being utter crap post Unbreakable.
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 I dont think he cares, when you actually *watch* his movies instead of his interviews, you can just kinda tell through the differences of the movies he used to make vs the movies he makes now.
Old looks like it's going to be the laziest thriller next to... well Happening, which is another movie he directed.
Adum: A renowned movie critic on RUclips who has been known for nearly two decades.
Adum: “The fuck is a Macguffin?”
I have never heard Alex sound this happy... Anyways, hope he gets better!
It's ironic, isn't it? Alex gets a disease and he becomes happier.
@@Jessica-el5yx I guess he really do hate himself.
@@Jessica-el5yx maybe because he was drinking?
The power skipped Fredo because he was seen as incompetent. He was sent to Vegas in Part 1 just to keep him out of the way. It's also not a monarchy. There's a bunch of mafia rules to adhere to, but there's no chain of succession or anything.
0:01 Can we just appreciate how beautiful that The Godfather-parody fan poster is?
That's some incredible Photoshop work
Thanks for giving attention to that!
@Michaelangelo Did you create that? Nice job dude
I also really like that David statue you made a few centuries ago, good stuff. When will you be making more Renaissance Italy stuff? The fans deserve it
@@WiloPolis03 Haha, to not take false-credit, that isn't me who created that poster. I just commented coz I appreciated you bringing my (and others') attention to somebody else's artwork.
I will try get back to my old Renaissance stuff though. Good shit
Ah lol my bad.
I remember seeing that old David statue when it was first made, back then I was still playing Half-Life 2
I watched the first two with my son recently. That "look know they massacred my boy" is fucking heartbreaking, but we couldn't help giggling as we watched it bc of the way it's become a meme.
Feel better, Alex. I live in Korea and we're almost through it.
Keep your head up, take your Vit C and stay relaxed, you'll pull through, too.
Lol almost through it..
The impression that I got was that even though Don Vito doesn't condone drugs, he's mostly afraid of hurting his reputation and loosing his political contacts.
I think that what they were going with the ending wasn't that he die of old age: it was that he died alone. The movie is about he losing his powers, family and friends, and the last shot is him dying just falling with nothing around him.
The execution was really bad and I don't know how many people got that, but it's not something totally disconnected IMO.
Just like The Irishman ending
Jason Vorhees The Irishman ending was handled 50 times better
"I love it's legth"
Ralph Sepe 2020
Pretty sure I heard that from him before
@@aliveslice Ah, so it wasn't a slip...
Except he liked it short the other time. 🤔
That's what she said. That's what he said. Right? Cause of gay
I worked in a movie theater for a bit, and most 20 year olds considered The Godfather boring because it's a "Boomer movie". Breaks my heart. At least have a solid articulated reason to dislike something and I'll back off. But just not liking a movie because it's old is fucking stupid.
Maybe they genuinely dislike it but won't elaborate. I don't hate any movie "because it's old". It might be disengaging, overacted, etc. Even if it's a classic everyone is "supposed" to enjoy.
@@aliveslice Sure, but they never give a reason other than "it's old Boomer movie".
I don't like it because it doesn't have the Avengers in it. Marvel can do no wrong.
@@HOTD108_ I get your joke but I will say those 20 year olds I worked with also disliked Marvel movies. I think they were fans of Fast and Furious.
Unfortunately that's how a lot of the kids my age are, I once mentioned "Schindler's List" and two people asked me what it was. It's so disappointing and frustrating.
sofia coppola was not supposed to be in part 3. they added her because winona ryder dropped out.
It was worse than that. After Winona dropped out Francis replaced her with an actual actress who was murdered in her trailer just days before production. That's why Sofia was cast, they were just about to shoot when one of the stars of the film was killed, who else could they have put just days before production?
Wondering when Ralph is gonna recommend Bicycle Thieves as an Italian.
I always thought he was jewish
@@goblinburner Easy mistake to make. I was one of the only Italians in a rural Southern school system for a while, friend and foe alike called me ‘the Jew’ all throughout middle school. By high school everyone had seen the Sopranos, thank Yahweh.
So, about that...
@@goblinburner lol of course he’s Italian, his last name is fucking Sepe
Tom's visit with Mr Waltz is one of the greatest scenes in movie history. The dialogue is so well timed and delivered perfectly
The HBO-GO version of The Godfather: A Novel for Television is the best version of the chronological cut; it's 7 hours long, the violence is re-inserted (it was notoriously toned down at the time), and it's got no commercial breaks (in their words: there are no pauses. YOU, the viewer, get to make your own breaks). I've seen it multiple times and it's a whole beast of its own design. Still doesn't compare to the 2 movies separately but it's worth a watch
That character who may be based on Frank Sinatra, he actually is based on Frank Sinatra.
Johnny Fontane was his name right?
@@MrCrow05 Yes, good character in the film, slightly obnoxious character in the book.
The whole Italian/mafia involvement in show business was pretty common and Sinatra wasn’t the only person in a similar situation IRL
@@frankmerker630 Sinatra was the one that everyone knows about
@@yggdrasil3 It always weirded me out how he just disappears from the films despite him kinda being where the title comes from.
Part III really should've been about how Michael grew to be the exact counterpoint to his father--a loveless and ruthless Don with nothing but cunning, power and avarice to comfort him, ruling the game but having no real kin anymore. That would've also made it much more brutal a message against getting mixed up in that kind of life, the perfect tragic ending to a character who started out a war hero with a limitless future and a close network of loved ones.
If you love The Godfather then check out "The Godfather Notebook." It's Francis Ford Coppola's journal from the 70s of how he planned to adapt the novel, cast roles, which parts of the book to cut, etc.
Alex’s COVID laugh is true sign of the times
The reason Sofia Coppola was cast was because Francis Ford Coppola had already decided on an actress by the name of Rebecca Schaeffer when she was murdered by a stalker so soon to the production of The Godfather 3 that Francis was rushed into a very last minute choice. It wasn't NOT nepotism but Sofia was never the first choice for the role. Just wanted to add that because I don't think that's a common fact about the movie.
Here's a podcast on that entire case and also where I got the info: ruclips.net/video/25hagQk5C8Y/видео.html
“We’re gonna make you a podcast you can’t refuse”
Perfect
Do one with Perfect Blue.
YES
PLEASE DO
Or a whole episode dedicated to Satoshi Kon since he only has 4 (completed) full length films, excluding writing credits and the series "Paranoia Agent".
@@thirtyyearoldmulberryfield cool idea
“Just when I thought I was out, they PULL me back in...”
-Marvel movies are despicable
-Didn't you make Godfather part 3 because you went bankrupt?
-um that wasn't me.
The magic of Sardonicast . I love you guys. Keep going strong, and stay safe. This is just what i needed. Thank you . I hope Alex feels better soon.
Probably the most predatory animal in UK, Alex forgot to say is a Bull. They scare the hell out of anyone esp when its mating season. Walking even near a field where one is stood freaks me out.
Coincidentally I just finished watching The Godfather trilogy for the first time without knowing Alex’s recommendation so this was a cool surprise
Godfather (10/10)
Godfather Part II (10/10)
Godfather Part III (3/10)
My exact rating
Just rewatched part III a couple of days ago. I understand why people would like it less than the other 2. I don't understand why anybody would rate it lower than a 7/10. It is still a solid film. I really think people bandwagon along how bad it is. It is really not that bad.
@@gab_gallard maybe because michaels death is executed horribly, every new character is uninteresting, the movie’s cinematography isn’t as good as the original 2 and the movie was only made for money? Oh and Sofia Coppola
@@pontagamingg275 I disagree with everything you said so I don't think we can have a productive discussion xD To each their own. I liked the film. In retrospect, I like it more than Part II (which I honestly believe is the most boring one of the trilogy, most of the whole Cuba section should be cut out of the film, ruins the pacing and doesn't add much besides lenght). I still consider Part I vastly superior to both.
@@gab_gallard Fair enough, glad you like it atleast
Could you guys discuss a Tarkovsky film or one by a similar director in one of your future episodes?
I especially enjoy your thoughts and discussion on much more alternative films. In any case great show guys, keep it up!
Tarkovsky is overrated
n_e_e_t In what sense?
@@Lifesizemortal I won't say anything about the last two
But the first 5 are masterpieces
They are definitely not sensitive to his kind of films. I'd rather they didn't.
@@nico.f. What do you mean?
I felt the sudden urge to rewatch the trilogy.
I'll come back to listen again to this discussion once I'm finished.
Adam comparing The Godfather Part 3 to Adam Wingard doing Death Note made me laugh pretty hard.
Movie Suggestion:
Director: Ralph Bakshi
Heavy Traffic
*yes I did watch this off acid but I think its still an intersting film on its own
One of my favorite animated films.
Or Fritz the Cat would be cool
@@calisha1889 Heavy Traffic is a better film than Fritz.
For people who’ve heard the episode: I’ve only seen part one, can I listen to what they say about the first movie without having one of the sequels spoiled for me? Or do they reference all three films even when only talking about one?
There are no major spoilers for Parts II or III during the discussion of the original.
Actually, they talk about a major plot point and death in Part II (and they talk about it when discussing Part III, as well).
@@officialgoogleyoutube Right, but he was asking about whether he could listen to their segment on the first movie only.
@@tasamolic Oh, that was stupid of me. Right. Well, I think he could, then. I don't recall them getting into the others in that part of the discussion.
16:23
*Luca Brasi*
i only remember the character's name because he is like a Mentor Figure in the Official Game.
Word. I poured one out for him when it came time for his aquatic slumber party.
When Ralph coughed, I feel you missed the opportunity to ask: "is this what a computervirus is?".
Get well soon Alex, hope you don't die man
1:36:20 the latest in the Up series, 70UP, was released last year (2019) and it continues the excellence of the series. Well worth checking out.
There is an incredible interview w Coppola done by PTA, David O. Russell and Catherine Hardwick that was put on by the DGA. Its on RUclips and is deffinetly worth your time!
I love how Diane Keaton says "Sicilian thing" when she's telling Pacino about the abortion, when they're breaking up.
10:00 History Buffs talks about the mafia involvement in his Goodfellas vid. Other good mob movies are the OG Scarface, The Untouchables, Casino
I fell asleep watching the untouchables unfortunately....
O N why? boredom?
@@tonywords6713 it was prolly boredom and honestly I just didnt care throughout the movie
O N yeah it’s got a more generic 90’s Spielberg type vibe that causes it to be a step down from the rest of the Scorsese and Coppola movies. Feels more like a blockbuster than the rest.
Fun fact about that guy in the first movie who was super nervous: he was actually a Mafia member who was on the set to see what they were doing, hence why he was so nervous.
"I've curated a list of things that look terrible on Amazon Prime"
I see you're a man of culture as well
Oh this will be interesting! Get well soon Alex!
I am so fucking happy Alex mentioned the Roblox Machinima's on Amazon Prime. I have seen "Roblox: The Last Quest" in my recommended for months and I wasn't sure if I was just hallucinating or not.
21:38 “vaffanculo” means “fuck you” ;3. Btw as an Italian the second movie italian accents parts are so thick that when we watched it we couldn’t understand most of it, me and my friends had to use the English subtitles as the italian ones are missing on netflix.
When Ralph said "It's a capitalist society"
I f e l t that
It's always wild to me to know that Eli Wallach the guy who really likes cannolis in part 3 also played Tuco in the good the bad and the ugly
One of you recommend The Beach. My number 1 guilty pleasure movie. It represents the end of the 90s so personally to me. I have seen the first half of that movie countless times, and the second half half as much.. But NO other movie I can think of encapsulates better the concept of the setting as a character.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
7:08 - The Godfather (1972)
37:34 - The Godfather Part II (1974)
56:12 - The Godfather Part III (1990)
1:25:18 - Q&A
1:25:35 -- Have you had any bad hair cuts or clothing styles when you were young?
1:29:03 -- Have Adam had a strange encounter with a Canadian Goose?
1:34:39 -- How do you rate factual documentaries compared to fictional movies?
1:41:24 -- What are your favourite Movie MacGuffins?
1:44:10 -- What genre would you explore if you had the ability to make a feature film?
1:49:10 - Ralph's Recommendation: Ex Machina (2014)
Timestamps by Foxtrod
The goose conversation would make a great animated segment
Get better, IHE :)
Coppola cut parts I & II together w/some extra footage for TV in 1977, putting the events in chronological order. This version still airs from time to time, but there is also a version that includes Part III that hasn't seen the light of day since 1992
I watched 2 & 3 in preparation for this :)
Aw man, I wish I was in this episode so bad, nothing would please me more than to discuss my favourite movie trilogy (minus the third) with my favourite reviewer trilogy
Dude they're not gonna have you on as a guest, you're just some random ass guy.
Get well soon, Alex :)
I'd love to hear their thoughts on Mean Streets.
Love that movie along with who’s that knocking on my door. Totally gets you into the little Italy scene like you’re really there. Feels like Scorsese learning to make a movie which is cool with all the experimental shots too.
@@theeoddments960 I love it. It's also Scorsese's most chaotic film. It feels at times like the movie is completely out of control at times. Which works great with the ending. Mean Streets is one of those movies you have to see if you want to call yourself a film buff, or if you even want to make one. I can't tell you how many directors I've seen tell the same story. Saw Mean Streets, changed their lives forever. It sounds crazy saying this about a Scorsese movie. But Mean Streets has to be one of the most underrated films of all time.
I have bad asthma. So I got COVID before COVID was a thing. Joy. I'm in my 8th week of isolation. When ppl think asthma is not a serious thing, whelpppp.
The Witch is definitely pretty masterful
#PrayForAlex
nice seeing you here
@@Wodro Thnx!!!
You can tell Alex was trying so hard not to cough towards the end.
I cannot believe you guys failed to mention Don Lucchese being stabbed with his own glasses
I believe the mafia involvement in the first movie was exaggerated for marketing purposes.
Damn I didn't know about all those behind the scenes drama with Mafia and the Studio. 😅
I just wanna say I very thoroughly appreciate that you guys put time stamps in the description
Get well soon Alex ❤️
Happy 4/20 fellow Sards!
Sofia did win an Oscar tho
Mr. Boomer she won for writing for lost in translation
What a coincidence that I watched the first two Godfather movies for the first time for my History Of Film class, and now you guys are doing an episode about it. I'm still deciding whether or not I should watch the 3rd one.
The Godfather Part II is nice DLC
Bruh, how do I get the notification and have RUclips say it came out today when the comments say otherwise
My Guess Is Patreon Early Access.
Yeah it is apparently, my bad.
@@corey6536 It's Okay!
It is never okay
bruh
I asked the goose question. The reason I singled Adam out is because I thought Canadian geese were named as such because they could only be found in Canada, and since Adam is the only Canadian here... in short, I'm a dumbass
Honestly, The Godfather Part III should've never been titled that, like the Redditor said. It should've just been two films, with an extra one with a different title.
Part III made some sense for a movie about an old man with the past he's had letting things pass him by until he dies.
@@HOTD108_ What?? And also, I disagree on the last part you wrote.
I hope you get better Alex
To be fair the original actress for Mary in part iii dropped out at the last minute before shooting, so Coppola didn't really have much of a choice.
Wasnt it winona ryder?
@@calisha1889
Yes.
Hope you get well soon IHE!
I can't believe I just realized that many of the events of Casino, Goodfellas, and The Irishman took place during the making of Godfather's 1/2.
In the Godfather video game 2006, you play as the character that put the horsehead on the bed :D loved that game
1:49:39
Was that little line intentionally lined up with the upload date? Bruh
You guys should watch A Brighter Summer Day by Edward Yang. Pretty comfortable calling it a masterpiece
dominik dedaj I wholeheartedly agree. The film was amazing all the way through 4 hours of it. This should be discussed.
It's a strong contender for best East Asian film of the 90's.
Fun Fact: Marlon Brando was going to cameo in the film but on the day of filming he got into a payment dispute and walked out.
That was for “The Godfather, Part II”, but that flashback works better without seeing Don Vito Corleone; his presence was so powerful he doesn’t need to be seen.
Also, I think Ralph implied Marlon Brando was Italian-American, which he wasn’t. According to Wikipedia, he was of English, Irish, German, and Dutch.
I watched The Godfather Trilogy a few months ago for the first time. The Godfather (1972) and The Godfather Part II (1974) are without exaggeration the best films ever made. Absolute masterpieces.
The Godfather Part III (1990) was frankly not as bad as I thought it would be.
The bad reputation of this film is not unfounded especially when you compare it to Part I and II. But as a separate film? It's actually not that bad.
The Godfather Part III (1990) is definitely a downgrade from its predecessors, but it's still a good film and an acceptable end to this Trilogy.
This trilogy looks fine and all, but it's no _Gotti._
It ain't no easy grab the they gotti
Gotti and Godfather 3 have the same rating from Adam. Let that sink.
Seriously hope Alex gets better