Before he died, he refused to see wife for the last time, just to let her remember herself forever?!
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Title: "Legend of Hao Lan" ep58-1
Zhao Guo Handan, Yu Shi Li He's daughter, Li Haolan, was destroyed by her stepmother, her family was ruined, her name was ruined, and she was even sold. Lu Buwei, a frustrated Yu, bought her, and devoted Hao Lan to the stranger Qin Wang, who was held hostage at the Zhao Guo Palace at the time, with a fancy plot. Li Haolan formed alliances with the strangers and Lu Buwei for the purpose. After nine lives, they joined forces to reach the peak of the highest power in the pre-Qin dynasty.
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My interpretation of Zichu not letting Haolan see him before his death and their relationship overall:
Let's be honest, Zichu and Haolan are both very intelligent and cunning people with the ability to set aside their emotions, be cold-blooded, and even manipulate others when the situation calls for it. This is what Zichu loved about her. He knew she was the only woman who could match his level of intelligence and cunningness. First in Zhao when he was a hostage, he knew he needed a smart wife who could help him survive in a foreign country and then in Qin he knew his queen needed to be someone smart enough to help him defeat his enemies and protect his homebase. Like he tells Lubuwei before his death, he isn't averse to using Haolan to achieve his goals. However, there's a bit of insecurity in Zichu. He's aware that Haolan can do better than him, that other men would be willing to give her his entire heart while Zichu isn't and part of him is worried that seeing how smart Haolan is, what if one day she realizes what a jack*ss he is and finds a new lover. This combines with the his narcissistic side to emotionally manipulate Haolan into never finding closure and thus never being able to get over him. He wants his existence to transcend death and pervade her life even after he is gone. (quick note this is also evident in his desire to leave the legacy of being the emperor who paves the way for the Qin to invade the rest of China). Therefore, Zichu never fully loved Haolan. He only loved himself and the benefits being with Haolan would bring. Haolan on the other hand is different. She has a heart. You can see throughout the show that there's this narrative of females in powerful positions yet still being used and trampled on by men. While one may see this as a sexist portrayal of women, I have mixed feelings about that. Haolan can do everything Zichu and Lubuwei do. She could pursue power and she could use it to abuse other people, but she doesn't. She doesn't want to and I think that makes her stronger and more powerful than all the strong male characters we see. She's not imprisoned by the thrall of power and the fact that she still ends up extremely powerful is the ultimate flex. Although I do have to say, it is rather disappointing that EVERY single male fell into the gender stereotype of "ambitions over women" and ALL the women were controlled by men to some extent (even Haolan), so this is why I can see there being moments where the show is trying to break gender tropes and also moments when they fall back into it. Coodles to you if you read this whole thing, dang this is long.
I 100% agree with you. Their son, Zheng or Qin Shi Huangdi as he will be remembered by in history, was a ruthless and murderous king and i really dont think he got it from a stranger.
and that is what I call an essay
This drama got me all confused on their feelings for each other’s. So I read all of what you wrote to understand 😅 I watch this drama a while back already. I feel like some what they all feel in love but their own goals are more important.
DAAMMNNN YOU WROTE AN ESSAY AND I LOVE IT!!! PERFECT INTERPRETATION OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. USUALLY, THE KING/EMPEROR CAN BE SHOWN TO BE VERY DUMB OR IGNORANT AND THE WIFE TO BE COLD-BLOODED AND OR HAVE ANOTHER LOVER THEREFORE SHE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HER HUSBAND'S DEATH BUT YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD!!!!
You're damn right, you hit the nail on the head. I always say never trust and love men who seek ultimate power and who have a throne because they will either use you or abond you
Many said Zichu didn’t see Haolan for the last time to make sure she could never find another love. But I don’t think so. He never said that. He only said he wanted to be the love of Haolan’s life. And when Lu Buwei said he would get Haolan back after Zichu’s death, Zichu only smiled and replied at the end Haolan would be buried beside him. I think he knew Haolan could possibly get back to Lu Buwei, but he wanted to guarantee that she could never forget him and would rest beside him in eternal sleep.
@S Robin how do you know that
But Haolan cud not forgive Zichu for not seeing her before he died. From wat Zichu said, i dont think Haolan will bury w him. Tq
@@jessiekor7771 The story was based off the real story of Haolan. The writers did film a scene with Haolan and Li Buwei old and together but they scraped it because it wasn't what really happened. @SRobin was right. She didn't have closure so she hated him for the rest of her life but she's always constantly thinking about him. She's the type forgive old acquaintances as shown with Princess Ya. (I can't find the right word but you know what I mean). Zichu knows by not seeing her or talking to her for the last time and making her burn all possessions reminding her of him, he'll only live in her memories and eventually she'll only think back fondly of him.
Like the selfish bastard he is
@@jessiekor7771 I read that she was buried next to Zichu. Their son made sure of that....
Honestly everyone has their breaking point. She put everything she had into the people she loved only for them to not love her equally. Respect goes a long way. After so many years, all the rejection, disrespect, hurt and pain hardened her heart. I can’t blame her for that. He turned her love into hate in the end all due to what jealousy really. He was the one she chose & he shut her out. He could’ve just sent Lyu Buwei away but he kept him around. Smh...her son got issues yes, but he too is a product of his environment. Yes she should’ve disciplined him more but he grew up his entire life watching people trample on his mother even as she held her head high during the process. She taught him to be strong but see through people. Everyone taught him not to trust or to love because they haven’t shown him better. The only one I believe he loves and respects is his mother cuz in the end they were always all each other had.
Haolan was a progressive woman beyond her time. She not only need love but also equal footing as partner in life outside of domestic duty, which of course unacceptable in her time. Zhizu loved her but cldn't grasp the importance of giving her voice n respect so they're at odds till the day he died. Buwei also loved Haolan but again used her only as a stepping stone to his own goal. Her son loved her but also cldn't understand her deeply. At the end Haolan felt noone cld understand her n perceived as being too tough n cold heart..
She will always have Xiao Chun(?) with her, her best friend. She wasn't alone. They survived together.
I don't know. I feel like transitioning to the life of royals is what really destroyed them. In the beginning Yiren really did seem to respect Haolan and her voice. The three of them were equal partners in their endeavors. Once Haolan was even in trouble, and Yiren's first instinct was to run to her and save her, but he stopped himself. He even said he could trust her and that she was capable of getting out of the situation on her own.
I can't be the only one that thought Haolan was beginning to become more irrational over time, am I? Her love for her son and her own experience caused her to spoil him and her actions unintentionally created a tyrant. She didn't teach him real accountability or compassion. Later on she shows jealousy towards the other the other consorts even though she clearly understand's Yiren's intentions for taking them in (he needed the queen's trust to gain the power to bring Haolan back in the first place). Further on and on she gets a bit more blinded, even past Yiren's death when it comes to dealing with her son. I feel like emotions just took over to much, but that's just what happens when you love someone. Sometimes you become blinded.
I'm not saying Yiren is free from fault though. He knew that a trap was set up and yet still had an initial reaction of jelousy towards Haolan and Lu Buwei's interaction towards the end. He didn't tell Haolan about his illness either (although I can sort of understand that since he never wanted her pity, only love, when he also got stabbed in the chest before). He did value her voice but didn't give her the opportunity to speak on truths because he held so much back. But in the end he was able to guarantee the safety of both his kingdom and his family, his to priorities, by weeding out the rebels. Sure, he used Haolan to do so, but it wasn't purely out of selfishness or disregard towards her. As a master chess player he just took advantage of the mutual pains and distrust that bloomed from the two of them to try and at least make his family's future brighter, because in the end he knew he wouldn't be there to see it and he could make sacrifices.
Overall, I feel like Haolan just became a little too comfortable from her position of power as the Queen and let her gaurd down. It wasn't that she couldn't understand his plan, but she just failed to recognize it sooner when he Lu Buwei could. Yiren on the other hand just became too distrustful and burdened by becoming the king, and unfortunately he let that leak out to the end and made the shitty decision to not let Haolan see him out of either just jealousy or even insecurity. God, I miss the simpler times of when they were just hostages in Zhou, at least when their lives weren't being threatened. Those were the sweetest.
I like this assessment/opinion. I don't know in reality on how progressive Haolan was. Being cunning and smart was a needed trait to survive the Imperial court, but it had nothing to do with being a progressive. But I can see how the three most 'important' men in her life, those whom she cared about, really understood her.
Schuldiges Herz 👍🤔I really like your simple but thorough assessment and comment😊I have not been able to watch from beginning to end. Hao Lan suffers so much, I get exhausted. And give up. Then, come back. Watch a little more. 😄😁🤭That's why I appreciate your simplicity of summarizing in your comment😄😄👍👍🎶🎥😁😷
I don't agree that Lui Buwie loved Hao Lan, he was obsessed with controlling and possessing her. He always disrespectful said that she belonged to him, as though she was merchandise. I have no idea why she loved such a man. I found nothing loveable about him.
I’m just glad Consort Ling and Mingyu are back together again.
tbh neither zichu nor lu buwei really respected haolan. and if they did, their actions def didn't reflect that. both were willing to use her as a pawn in their endeavors and you can't do that to someone if you really love, respect, and recognize them as an equal, yet zichu used haolan to topple the Mi Clan and the rebels and lu buwei used haolan in his endeavors, well, all the time. honestly the only man that respects her is her son Zheng'er. even when he was just a boy he never let anyone speak poorly of her
Well you can't say that he just used her to topple the Mi Clan and other rebels. Sure, establishing a Qin Dynasty was a priority of his, but the clan wasn't exactly against that. But his family would end up just being their puppets, which is something he doesn't want as well. With the Dowager's hate for Haolan, leaving her and his son to deal with them after his death is basically condemning them to a life of even greater misery or even death. So getting rid of them fulfills his two ambitions in life: establishing the Qin Dynasty and protecting the loves of his life.
@@schuldigesherz2763 good opinion. People are saying Zichu didn't love Hoalan and just used her. I think that's wrong. He loved Hoalan to bits but his thinking in his final days was warped. He was afraid of her going back to her old love and didn't want the Mi clan around to give them troubles after he was gone. Plus he also wanted Qin to be strong after he was gone. He was a good man. A little warped tho😂 I was angry when I first saw this episode but overtime I understood his rationale. Zichu said it himself. He wants Qin and Haolan.
Isn't Haolan's robe beautiful?
Zheng'er gives me psychopath energy.
He was. But he did achieve greatness.
Kinda mad that zichu never let her see him like it haunts her for years after that
@S Robin After everything Zichu did, Haolan should have been able to move on.
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@S Robin I know. What I'm saying is all that was a dick move on Zichu's part.
It’s a bit selfish, if he loves her he would let her move on. No one should be stuck to feel like how she had to. He will always be the one she loves but to give her no freedom to be happy is just cruel.
Zichu doesn't deserve her
Haolan really love Zichu coz in some last episode she was very angry to Lao Ai for rearranging her palace. she said that those displayed item was given by the late king. That's the only way to remember Zichu just like the old times.
Well she didn’t burn his pillow 😂missed that😝
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Zheng gives me the chills. He is one cut throat dude
He's going to be Qin Shi Huang afterall
He gives off psychopath vibes, tbh.
He punished her passive aggressive. He used her for his survival simular to how he used princess. Her father her male cousin her first love the Prince ber second love her husband and her son all...selfish to the core. If there is no equality in power...love means nothing..he meft her to regret. In the end he had more revard for his mother which was no help to him ...what a waste...
Honestly, Hao Lan should've set fire to the bed LMAO But in all honesty, what a twisted move Zinchu. Well done?
You guys keep saying he never loved her… he’s literally acting like this for her sake, not to mention she took his love for granted a lot of times when he was alive and only realised how much she loved him when he died
They making it seem like Haolan was a saint 😑
A true son of the mother
Indeed! My thought as well!
The mother? Zichu had been 1 cunning man plotting everything behind haolan's back. Haloan is prideful and arrogant, but not a psycho like Zheng, that is his father's side for sure
He wants her to let go of all sentiments by burning their precious items and wants her to be stronger and he also wants to make her remember as some one who helped her even in death . She does exactly same thing to her son by shoving off cold shoulder i the next episodes and secretly helps him to power .
U can say that he never truly make her believe in the love bcz of how he treats her 💔 even though he loved her so he already had no hope for the last days to be with her as his only lover so 😈 he make sure even if it is the hate that makes him remember in haolans hrt he was ready for that too
She was very angry with him. I don't blame her. All these historical dramas are heartless. Everyone was nothing but a object to be used to gain power. She had a man that loved her that's why she promoted him. So no one could use there power against her. But in the end he used her to because he couldn't get her love. It really makes me mad that the King never loved her just used her. She lost herself in all this lust for power. I think she should have just stayed away another 7 years. He married and went on with his life goals. In this time love was a luxury no one could afford. I feel heartbroken for her.
Veo muchos comentarios en inglés. Les daré el mío y de éste final de relación sí se puede decir así.
Estoy a favor de la chica que comento un par de cosas aquí (en inglés).
El rey no quiso ver a la Reyna porque quería ella no tuviera un "cierre" después de su muerte. Qué ella lo recordara por siempre como su único amor. (Comentarios que le llega a hacer al ministro). Quiere asegurarse de que después de su muerte ella lo siga amando, y a mí parecer la manipula emocionalmente negándose a verla, para JAMÁS despedirse de ella, y que ella no tenga paz con él, con ella y con sus emociones. No le da ese confort.
Ahora, en los colme hay una disputa de sí el la amo o no de verdad. En mi opinión, es que no. No lo amo, se ama a sí mismo más de lo que la amaría a ella. ¿La razón? siento que la veía como un objeto. Una persona que te ama, al final de sus días, espera verte feliz, no atarte hasta la muerte con la incertidumbre de si me amo o no. El rey no la amaba, pero seguramente veía en ella lo más cercano al amor. El rey se amaba así mismo y a su pueblo; aunque del pueblo dudo también quizás parte de su egocéntrismo es que los demás vieran que él era el mejor gobernante hasta su último respiro. (Odie, realmente al personaje). Por otro parte, quería dejar a su hijo y a su reyna en buenas manos, pero aún así, todo esto para mí fue parte su idea de que "lo logré, todo salió como siempre quise".
La Reyna, dios mío. Nadie la merece. De verdad. Veo en ella mucha resistencia, valor, y cariño de verdad por todos. Por sus amigos, por su pueblo, su esposo. Me llena de dolor saber esta escena que ella sí amor al rey, y esté no parecía sentir lo mismo; en como en esa época al final de los días, las mujeres serían siempre usadas y desechadas, con un propósito; placer o poder.
Pd: sigo admirando a la Reyna, quién no importa la adversidad, salió adelante en todos los obstáculos que le pusieron. Fue usada, sí, sin embargo fue uno de los personajes que no se dejó corromper por la ambición a tal grado de perderse; cómo otros personajes.
Im glad mingyu lives to the end this time
I think it is also Haolan's fault that she couldn't see Zichu for the last time. She had all day to visit him, but she found Ya and talked with her instead. She was too stubborn. Now Zichu could not wait for her anymore.
@S Robin I think Zichu did it because he was not sure about Haolan's love for him. He was dying but she couldn't put aside her anger and come to see him. But if she had visited him and talked with him, things might have been different.
@S Robin Spending time with the evil princess? No, im not talking about it. Im talking about the time when Haolan was going to visit Zichu, but she remembered Silou's words and felt upset, so she turned around and went to see Ya instead. She did have a chance to talk with Zichu, but she lost it.
Zichu never deserved Haolan. She is too good for him. Finally she is free from him.
Not too sure about that. Lol later episodes when that Li Zoa guy rearranged some things she kept from Zichu she was livid. They truly loved each other... in a warped way🤦🏿♀️
She didn't deserve Zichu too. She should have really stayed with Buwei who could sell her at any time of his life.
Im crying in the whole video
I wouldn’t pick neither of them being in a palace you truly can’t love anyone but yourself. Just because he’s the emperor he use her over and over she became like this it’s because of him. Hmph survival to the fittest.
Like she didn't approach him first with lu buwei to try to use Zichu too ? 🤨
I hate zichu it's not right even what reason he may be still he knows how much haolan loves him.
She probably spent the rest of her life asking for ‘why’s’ that will never be answered. Even if she understood that this is what he meant to do all along, she’ll keep wondering and wondering... fckd up move but bloody effective zichu
I think he just wanted her to remember him as a healthy man, a strong man. It's not uncommon and it's a kind thing, really, to leave those we love with a better mental image of the end of us if we can.
Zichu is truly so mean
I love this heroine character
In the end she didn’t burn the satin green wood pillow that he rested his head on when he was next to her it’s a matching pair that’s on her bed
She was like I need some alone time and she stared deeply at there pillows while remembering him
When she’s alone in bed she thinks of him that’s the only time she can.
Technically to many people try to read Haolan
In the court saying she’s after them or starting dirty rumors about her or plotting women.
Yet all haolan wants is a break from all the petty drama.
Yet she recognized that a combined nation is a stable nation so common people can all get a break from the inner nations bullying.
Now it’s up to her son to maintain that security his father worked so hard for
yet most likely her son is now her enemy cause he misread her like so many others.
yet for some odd reason haolan reads others through there body language
that shows me how she had to cope with tbe kingdoms inner circle nice things yet always a traitor or worry
The ultimate fuck you would have been Haolan getting back together with Lu Buwei 🤣😂🤣
All she is left with is her demon son
I've been trying know the answer to this anyone know what became of prince Yan(zhengs childhood friend) after Li ge died?
Como de llama la serie?
Legend of Haolan
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I am gonna need emotional support after this
Wait does Zheng’er care about his dad or not?
He was a mommy's boy. He never bonded with his dad because his dad left them behind.
I've wondered about this since I saw the scene. It's so sad.
He’s a psychopath.. he doesn’t really care about anyone but his mom and himself
I don’t believe he cared for his father, he pretends to be sad to show filial piety. If he doesn’t then he’ll seem unfilial lol
He’s gotta play his role as the filial son. He’s got a crazy vibe to him. He is after all a ruthless king in history. But he only loves and cares about his mother and doctor yin.
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Why did d king refuse to see his wife before he died? Tq
He wanted her to be so angry at him that she'd never forget him
Zichu is such a smart guy
I need a man like Zheng er
He was too ruthless. That kind of man will turn on you if you piss him off.
@@wahniewashington7167 it's ok, i'll know how to tame the beast.
filmmakers of haolan are a 10k generations truly laudable...
Do these people even age?
I was thinking the same thing while watching this drama. The makeup people should have made more effort to make them look older.
Title of the drama please
Really? This is C-drama 'The Legend of Hao Lan". This channel put all the information on top of the page. Just click 'show more'
can anyone pls tell me the english name of the drama
The Legend of Hao Lan
I wonder wat episode this 😿 I'm just at episode 25
Near the end. You have another half of the drama to go
Ep 58. All the information is on top, just click 'show more'
It seems to me, that every single one of them, deserved each other.
Где русские субтитры?
Oh shit, don’t tell me this is the end
Watch this first then Thr King's Woman
*himself
I’m sorry, but this is all kinds of f@&ked up.
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