I have watched just about every video on RUclips regarding CF express cards. Your video is by far the best! I just got a new Z8 and I’ve been very perplexed on which card to get but I think you have sold me on the Delkin black! Thanks a bunch I really appreciate your help.
Thank you! check out ruclips.net/video/TCcy7m-pmos/видео.htmlsi=woa4lwj34MtY0kH3 Thats my Z8 cf express test. I believe some time in late Spring I will acquire 4 new brands. It will take some time but thank you for your support🫡🫡
@4:27 I disagree. The Delkin maintained the 20fps burst rate longer than the Angelbird by at least 10 frames, and that is shown clearly. I own Sony Tough 256GB, Delkin Black 325GB, and Cobalt 325GB Gen 1 and 2. The Delkin Black is the best of these, but the Cobalt 325GB Gen 2 is not far behind. The Lexar Diamond cards are roughly on par with the Delkin Black, but not available above 256GB yet. All of these will record 8k60 NRAW until the card is full except the Sony Tough. The Cobalt 325GB Gen 1 is worse for bursts than the Sony Tough 256GB card by a lot, but it does record 8k60 NRAW just fine and Sony Tough can't. Another thing you should test is one card vs two cards inserted in camera. I have found in the Z9 that some expected and unexpected things can happen. It is expected that if you set the camera to backup mode, i.e., write all bursts to both cards simultaneously, performance will be impacted and for sure limited to the slowest card that is inserted. That should not surprise anyone. What is unexpected is that different cards act differently when a second card is or is not inserted in the camera. I have found that the Delkin Black cards perform consistently the best no matter what, i.e., only one card inserted, two cards inserted in backup mode, two cards inserted no backup mode, and so forth. The Sony Tough cards are pretty much the opposite. One card inserted does ok in bursts, but two cards inserted whether in backup mode or not will perform far worse. You are actually better off only having one Sony Tough card inserted than having a second one installed and not in backup mode. The Cobalt's act more like the Delkin Blacks, but there is an impact with a second card inserted and not in backup mode. I point this out for folks that buy these cards and maybe can't get the performance numbers others report. So far, IMO, Delkin Blacks are great performers whether its one or two cards inserted in whatever mode. From what I have read, the Lexar Diamonds are also great in this respect. It can be a bit of a mixed bag with others.
It was very close but you could be right. I just started counting the empty gaps and notice a high volume down the stretch but it was just a hair difference.
@free88 , thank you so much for sharing this information. People in this community have so much experience, it's really great to have access to that knowledge. I really appreciate you taking the time to type this all down and sharing this with us. 👍🏻
@@HaggenKennedy Since my comment from four months ago, Nikon released firmware v3.1, and this changed some of the characteristics and nuances concerning memory cards/bus/etc. I no longer feel that simply having a second card installed in the Z9 (not in copy mode) affects performance of the first card. That seems to be addressed now. I now feel that in no copy mode with lossless compressed at 20fps the buffer depth is a little less with some cards and a little more with others vs before. However, 15fps or slower fps is now essentially an unlimited buffer with Delkin Black and Cobalt Gen 2 cards. That is a big improvement over v3.0.
@@HaggenKennedy B&H just had the Delkin Black 325GB at $200 on the daily deal earlier this week. I got them during Xmas when that card included a CF-B card reader for $250, and bought two back then. Either of those deals are a fantastic for what you get. B&H also had the Cobalt 650GB Gen 2 for $400 on the daily deal earlier this week. I could not resist that deal and bought two. If you plan on shooting a lot of 12-bit Prores or 12-bit N-raw, I would definitely recommend getting the 650GB cards or bigger. 650GB = ~15mins of 12-bit N-Raw 8.3k60 or about 18-22mins in various top 12-bit ProRes modes, i.e., 5.4k30, 4.1k60, 3.8k60.
Same, When it was on sale for $150, I was like yes~!. Those who build PC computer, they should know the Sabrent brand. Its very popular and well known in making storage and memory.
@@shreyjani668 That is fantastic. I think folks in the camera world may not know what Sabrent is as a company but they are super huge in the computer world in storage/memory/accessories.
Angelbirds have been reported to fall into small pieces. Some had parts stuck in the camera. I removed all Angelbird products from testing and future testing due to this. Cheers.
@@theCameraVille gotcha, in todays market what would you recommend as best value for a z9? I do a lot of Motorsports and need the speed, but I’m honestly pretty lost now, I appreciate your videos!
I just watched your CF Card video for the Z8. I'm surprised how different the Sabrent results are from this video (last place) to the Z8 video (first or second place, depending on your needs). Any idea why such a difference from the Z9 tests to the Z8 tests?
Hi David. Yes. The Sabrent has 2 version. This version in the z9 video is the budget friendly version. The one in the Z8 video is their pro level version. This is to allow user to have a choice. Not everyone needs the high performance . Somtime user need just high storage and Sabrent has both cards to do this.
Can you please review the Ritz Gear 1 Tb CF card on a Nikon Z9? My Nikon Z9 for some reason does not recognize the 1 Tb Ritz Gear card. I bought another one and it still does not recognize it. I am formating them using a Ritz Gear CF card adapter. It formats for over 10 minutes and makes the card reader hot hot. I had to place a fan to keep the card reader cool.
Affer doing some research , it looks like the Ritz brand wasnt compatiable with Nikon cameras. It may work at first but seems like people had issue later on.
Im coming from a Nikon z6 where I had used Sony 32 GB XQD cards (read: 440mbs and write: 400mbs) for many years and they were great cards with that camera. As the years went on I got more involved with video and got the z8. When shooting in N-Log , Prores 422 HQ 10 bit, 4k60fps I can only capture a maximum of 15 second clips at a time. I can record multiple clips, but only 15 seconds long. My question is, is this the camera compensating for buffering and knowing the card can only write for this long before is exceeds its limits? is there some type of video settings or recording limit I need to change? The card is completely empty on storage so I know it has more space than that. I plan to get an actual CF Express B card with higher speeds here soon to shoot RAW but it was nice knowing I had these cards and could potentially get some footage with them, but maybe not.
Good information indeed. I bought Angelbird AV PRO SE 512 GB at a price of 219 Euro, which equates to little over USD 230. I did a quick performance test and found roughly the same result as with the 160G card. This card too has some problems ejecting the card. It would be nice though to see this card tested in a next edition and perhaps add some comments from Angelbird.
I reached out to AB and asked for a sample to see if the sizes are different. Sadly no word from them. The good side is , user like you came forward on the instagram and also notice how sticky/stuck the cf express was on the 2nd slot. I was yanking the card out for a month so far. only time will tell if it will start chipping away;\
Hello, if understood correctly better to not put any SD card in the second slot as back up right ? The ProGrade 512GB CFexpress 2.0 Gold in first slot is a good one ? thanks
@@theCameraVille Are you sure the Angelbird card is causing the issue and not the Nikon? Many manufacturers specify their cards to be 29.8mm wide (the official spec costs $100 to download - so i didn’t). If this is correct maximum dimension the Anglebird card would appear to be within spec!
@@CNCTurboStep Angelbird reported they had the Z9 to make the cards. Sadly its angelbird who didnt QC check and no other brand have gone reportedly stuck . Also you should see Canon, be amaze to see if it also got stuck. No spoliers.
Good information on the cards you tested and I agree with you on the size issue of the AB cards. I use the Delkin Black and Prograde Gold with no issues. I would like to see you test the Prograde Cobalt/Gold, QXD (Sony and SanDisk) and the Nikon card. Is the AB card the markII version and what was the fifth card in your testing? I think Delkin and Prograde are the best overall options and i believe Prograde is recommended by Nikon.
Not a problem! Ill check up on the prograde card ( I notice I been using their reader). Nikon would be quite interesting to see. The sandisk was the 5th card and it was about 15 month old. The card corrupted before the test got started. I was told to look at the “professional series “ afterwards but its pricy.
I have watched just about every video on RUclips regarding CF express cards. Your video is by far the best! I just got a new Z8 and I’ve been very perplexed on which card to get but I think you have sold me on the Delkin black! Thanks a bunch I really appreciate your help.
Thank you!
check out
ruclips.net/video/TCcy7m-pmos/видео.htmlsi=woa4lwj34MtY0kH3
Thats my Z8 cf express test. I believe some time in late Spring I will acquire 4 new brands. It will take some time but thank you for your support🫡🫡
@4:27 I disagree. The Delkin maintained the 20fps burst rate longer than the Angelbird by at least 10 frames, and that is shown clearly.
I own Sony Tough 256GB, Delkin Black 325GB, and Cobalt 325GB Gen 1 and 2. The Delkin Black is the best of these, but the Cobalt 325GB Gen 2 is not far behind. The Lexar Diamond cards are roughly on par with the Delkin Black, but not available above 256GB yet. All of these will record 8k60 NRAW until the card is full except the Sony Tough. The Cobalt 325GB Gen 1 is worse for bursts than the Sony Tough 256GB card by a lot, but it does record 8k60 NRAW just fine and Sony Tough can't.
Another thing you should test is one card vs two cards inserted in camera. I have found in the Z9 that some expected and unexpected things can happen. It is expected that if you set the camera to backup mode, i.e., write all bursts to both cards simultaneously, performance will be impacted and for sure limited to the slowest card that is inserted. That should not surprise anyone. What is unexpected is that different cards act differently when a second card is or is not inserted in the camera. I have found that the Delkin Black cards perform consistently the best no matter what, i.e., only one card inserted, two cards inserted in backup mode, two cards inserted no backup mode, and so forth. The Sony Tough cards are pretty much the opposite. One card inserted does ok in bursts, but two cards inserted whether in backup mode or not will perform far worse. You are actually better off only having one Sony Tough card inserted than having a second one installed and not in backup mode. The Cobalt's act more like the Delkin Blacks, but there is an impact with a second card inserted and not in backup mode. I point this out for folks that buy these cards and maybe can't get the performance numbers others report. So far, IMO, Delkin Blacks are great performers whether its one or two cards inserted in whatever mode. From what I have read, the Lexar Diamonds are also great in this respect. It can be a bit of a mixed bag with others.
It was very close but you could be right. I just started counting the empty gaps and notice a high volume down the stretch but it was just a hair difference.
@free88 , thank you so much for sharing this information. People in this community have so much experience, it's really great to have access to that knowledge. I really appreciate you taking the time to type this all down and sharing this with us. 👍🏻
@@HaggenKennedy Since my comment from four months ago, Nikon released firmware v3.1, and this changed some of the characteristics and nuances concerning memory cards/bus/etc. I no longer feel that simply having a second card installed in the Z9 (not in copy mode) affects performance of the first card. That seems to be addressed now. I now feel that in no copy mode with lossless compressed at 20fps the buffer depth is a little less with some cards and a little more with others vs before. However, 15fps or slower fps is now essentially an unlimited buffer with Delkin Black and Cobalt Gen 2 cards. That is a big improvement over v3.0.
@@KungPowEnterFist Wow, that is incredible! I'm buying a Delkin Black for my Z8. So that's certainly great news! Again, thank you so much for sharing!
@@HaggenKennedy B&H just had the Delkin Black 325GB at $200 on the daily deal earlier this week. I got them during Xmas when that card included a CF-B card reader for $250, and bought two back then. Either of those deals are a fantastic for what you get. B&H also had the Cobalt 650GB Gen 2 for $400 on the daily deal earlier this week. I could not resist that deal and bought two.
If you plan on shooting a lot of 12-bit Prores or 12-bit N-raw, I would definitely recommend getting the 650GB cards or bigger. 650GB = ~15mins of 12-bit N-Raw 8.3k60 or about 18-22mins in various top 12-bit ProRes modes, i.e., 5.4k30, 4.1k60, 3.8k60.
ROCK N ROLL!!!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
thanks Vahagraphy~!
Just got the Sabrent 1TB card for mainly photography and some videography too. Using a Nikon Z8
ruclips.net/video/TCcy7m-pmos/видео.html
I also did a Z8 video~!
Its the small volem for 8k raw. The fucher is not support 8k raw
Great comparison , how many pictures can you get in a single burst at 20,30,60 and 120fps ?
That would be a great future video. Cheers
What about LEXAR professional ?!?
It’s in my other videos🥰
Ngl, I'd go with Sabrent anyday for value for money if I just shoot photos and need space. And I'd go with AngelBird/Delkin for hybrid use.
Same, When it was on sale for $150, I was like yes~!. Those who build PC computer, they should know the Sabrent brand. Its very popular and well known in making storage and memory.
@@theCameraVille I have been into PC building. Sabrent creates some good quality, under budget storage options.
@@shreyjani668 That is fantastic. I think folks in the camera world may not know what Sabrent is as a company but they are super huge in the computer world in storage/memory/accessories.
why not include the 512 SE angel bird ?
Angelbirds have been reported to fall into small pieces. Some had parts stuck in the camera. I removed all Angelbird products from testing and future testing due to this. Cheers.
@@theCameraVille gotcha, in todays market what would you recommend as best value for a z9? I do a lot of Motorsports and need the speed, but I’m honestly pretty lost now, I appreciate your videos!
I just watched your CF Card video for the Z8. I'm surprised how different the Sabrent results are from this video (last place) to the Z8 video (first or second place, depending on your needs). Any idea why such a difference from the Z9 tests to the Z8 tests?
Hi David. Yes. The Sabrent has 2 version. This version in the z9 video is the budget friendly version. The one in the Z8 video is their pro level version. This is to allow user to have a choice. Not everyone needs the high performance . Somtime user need just high storage and Sabrent has both cards to do this.
Can you please review the Ritz Gear 1 Tb CF card on a Nikon Z9? My Nikon Z9 for some reason does not recognize the 1 Tb Ritz Gear card. I bought another one and it still does not recognize it. I am formating them using a Ritz Gear CF card adapter. It formats for over 10 minutes and makes the card reader hot hot. I had to place a fan to keep the card reader cool.
Affer doing some research , it looks like the Ritz brand wasnt compatiable with Nikon cameras. It may work at first but seems like people had issue later on.
Im coming from a Nikon z6 where I had used Sony 32 GB XQD cards (read: 440mbs and write: 400mbs) for many years and they were great cards with that camera. As the years went on I got more involved with video and got the z8. When shooting in N-Log , Prores 422 HQ 10 bit, 4k60fps I can only capture a maximum of 15 second clips at a time. I can record multiple clips, but only 15 seconds long. My question is, is this the camera compensating for buffering and knowing the card can only write for this long before is exceeds its limits? is there some type of video settings or recording limit I need to change? The card is completely empty on storage so I know it has more space than that. I plan to get an actual CF Express B card with higher speeds here soon to shoot RAW but it was nice knowing I had these cards and could potentially get some footage with them, but maybe not.
ruclips.net/video/TCcy7m-pmos/видео.html
check that video~!
Good information indeed. I bought Angelbird AV PRO SE 512 GB at a price of 219 Euro, which equates to little over USD 230. I did a quick performance test and found roughly the same result as with the 160G card. This card too has some problems ejecting the card. It would be nice though to see this card tested in a next edition and perhaps add some comments from Angelbird.
I reached out to AB and asked for a sample to see if the sizes are different. Sadly no word from them.
The good side is , user like you came forward on the instagram and also notice how sticky/stuck the cf express was on the 2nd slot. I was yanking the card out for a month so far. only time will tell if it will start chipping away;\
Hello, if understood correctly better to not put any SD card in the second slot as back up right ? The ProGrade 512GB CFexpress 2.0 Gold in first slot is a good one ? thanks
Only Angelbird card will cause this issue on Nikon Z9. Be very Careful and dont damage your camera.
@@theCameraVille Are you sure the Angelbird card is causing the issue and not the Nikon?
Many manufacturers specify their cards to be 29.8mm wide (the official spec costs $100 to download - so i didn’t). If this is correct maximum dimension the Anglebird card would appear to be within spec!
@@CNCTurboStep Angelbird reported they had the Z9 to make the cards. Sadly its angelbird who didnt QC check and no other brand have gone reportedly stuck . Also you should see Canon, be amaze to see if it also got stuck. No spoliers.
We need internal ssd for the price of the cameras.
lol yea, I just bought some the other day, way cheaper than these cf express card. Im sure in 2 years these prices will be cheaper.
If you’re counting the peaks the Delkin looks better than the angelbird in terms of raw numbers. Not that it’s significant.
Its very close. Both are pretty good. 🤝
Angelbird reliability is questionable. The balance of this list is the delkin,very fast and reliable .
Yea, I cant recommend angelbird. I seen many photos of the card chipping away in pieces.
Good information on the cards you tested and I agree with you on the size issue of the AB cards. I use the Delkin Black and Prograde Gold with no issues. I would like to see you test the Prograde Cobalt/Gold, QXD (Sony and SanDisk) and the Nikon card. Is the AB card the markII version and what was the fifth card in your testing?
I think Delkin and Prograde are the best overall options and i believe Prograde is recommended by Nikon.
Not a problem!
Ill check up on the prograde card ( I notice I been using their reader). Nikon would be quite interesting to see.
The sandisk was the 5th card and it was about 15 month old. The card corrupted before the test got started. I was told to look at the “professional series “ afterwards but its pricy.
Damn I'm early
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@@theCameraVille Love your content brotha ❤️❤️